Solo: A Star Wars Story Expected To Film Pick-Up Shots In The Next Few Weeks
Once again, Solo: A Star Wars Story is undergoing some additional photography. Now, before anyone panics, bear in mind that this new round of filming is stated to be pick-ups to aid in the post-production process and not a significant overhaul of the existing movie.
Solo underwent a rather turbulent production history – while things were initially suggested to be smooth sailing for the second Star Wars spin-off, that all changed when directors Phillip Lord and Christopher Miller were unexpectedly fired due to creative clashes with screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan and Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy. Ron Howard quickly took up their sword afterward, and while things went pretty smoothly from there from the sound of things, there were some hiccups – Michael K. Williams’ character had to be written out due to scheduling conflicts, and the reshoot/principal photography plan that Howard oversaw lasted longer than expected, with Paul Bettany claiming that this was because Lucasfilm liked Howard’s revisions that much. Today, we have learned that work on the movie is not yet complete, as some filming will still be done in January and February:
Again – don’t panic. Featured within the thread embedded above is a conversation between fellow user and the original poster confirming that these are pick-ups and not last-minute overhauls of major setpieces:
“It’s probably pickups.”
“It is, from what I’ve heard.”
Prior to Hollywood’s obsession with reshooting major sequences for big-budget movies to beef up a film, what was generally perceived as a reshoot is what we now think of as a pick-up – generally speaking, minor scenes that are done to fit in with continuity and to make for a better edit in the final film. Both The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi had these kinds of additional photography, and while this might seem like Lucasfilm is cutting things a little close with Solo, it’s worth noting that 2005’s Revenge of the Sith had a similar January/February period where they did some additional filming before turning in the final edit – all in time for a late May release window, just as it is for this new movie. Also worth noting is that the famous Darth Vader hallway sequence was done at a similarly late stage into Rogue One‘s post-production cycle, and it ended up being one of the most well-received parts about the film.
For now, we won’t have a clear idea of what to expect from Solo: A Star Wars Story, but with a trailer rumored to be just around the corner, we ought to be enlightened soon. Here’s hoping that Disney has a solid marketing plan for the movie.
Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.
People need to start freaking out about this stuff. Pick-ups are nothing new and usually involve quick reaction shots or a new line or two. The Making of ROTS book does a pretty good job summing up how pick-ups typically work.
“People need to start freaking out…” I think you meant ‘stop’?
The link at the end of piece doesn’t work?
Reshoots aren’t a bad thing at all. In fact, in a lot of cases, its a great thing. It shows that the studio wants to put out the best possible movie they can.
Reshoots aren’t a bad thing at all. In fact, in a lot of cases, its a great thing. It shows that the studio wants to put out the best possible movie they can.
Exactly, it’s amazing that people get upset or concerned that Lucasfilm is willing to invest so many resources into these films. A lot of studios would tell the film makers to run with what they have.
Pick-ups ae just a couple of seconds here and there,all together maybe minute or 2,not a big deal
Generally I agree, but three weeks of shooting suggests more.
#soloshotfirst
#soloreshotsecond
#thensoloreshotsomemore
I’m not gonna jump on the hate train, but shouldn’t these been done back in the fall, or early December at the latest?
Why?
Change of directors set it back
Change of directors set it back
That doesn’t answer the question. This is quite normal, and how exactly are they supposed to know what shots to film for pickup if they don’t have a cut of the movie? You realize that they don’t need the lerad time to print reels and ship them anymore correct? In fact, many many movies have FX shots being worked on right up until just before release. There’s also around 5 months left to the release date.
I don’t think changing directors midway (or farther) through a movie should be described as “quite normal”. You don’t think a new director who is having to interpret the script, watch all the footage already filmed, and decide on how to go forward would set things? I honestly don’t know, I don’t work in the industry
Nowhere did I state that changing directors at the tail end of filming was normal as that’s not really the topic is it? Scheduling pick-up shots during the last 4-5 months before release so that they can clean up the flow of the movie in editing is normal though. Learn to read.
lol you replied to my comment about changing directors and said “That doesn’t answer the question. This is quite normal,…”. So I could just say, learn how to reply, but you don’t seem very fun to talk to. Have a nice life!
Yours was a reply to a comment about the pickup shots skippy. My reply was stating that pickup shots at this stage are quite normal, despite the change of directors. Reading comprehension is your friend.
“shouldn’t these been done back in the fall, or early December at the latest?” <- asking about the pickup shots.
"Change of directors?" <- Your reply.
"That doesn't answer the question." <-This addresses your comment.
"This is quite normal" <- This goes back to the original topic at hand, not branching off into a discussion about the change of directors which is a separate topic.
If you can't keep up with the conversation maybe ask someone to explain it to you before you reply next time.
Never claimed to be fun to talk to. Taking four words out of my sentence out of context to make your point doesn’t actually make you correct. Learn to comprehend what you read, or kindly block me and stfu.
They probably would have been done a bit earlier under standard circumstances. However, this film is an unusual case.
– Pomojema
They probably would have been done a bit earlier under standard circumstances. However, this film is an unusual case.
– Pomojema
Reshoots for the reshoot, who shot first? I thought the movie was locked, unless they had some of the same stuff that pissed-off people in TLJ and are changing it? (Flying through space in a Force bubble, Marvel humor, pointless quests, pro-vegan messages?)
It wrapped (re)shooting a few months ago. I imagine they have been furiously editing in the meantime.
It wrapped (re)shooting a few months ago. I imagine they have been furiously editing in the meantime.
I’m guessing these pickups won’t need much SFx, right? They’ve got their deadline real close.
Probably not, but even so they still have a few months before things need to be finished.
They may end up postponing the movie to December, though they may get it ready for May. Lets see.
Maybe we’ll now see Chewie ignite a green lightsaber. Guaranteed to heal all wounds.
Yep, to open up a Taun-Taun or rebooted creature, to put Han inside.
“Pro-vegan message”, give me a f*cking break.
^ surprised it took someone 2 hours to respond to that comment.
It was also pro-milk, didn’t you see Luke’s moustache? “Got green milk?”
I know, right? Todd Ingram would expose Luke and Chewbacca’s veganism for the disgrace it is.
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Luke killing a fish to eat was very vegan huh
Yep. Drinking milk too. Totally.
Your focus determines your reality.
“…pro-Vegan messages…”
Care to point out where those were?
Of course is not in your face but “please don’t eat us” Porg face, poor stable, racing animals. I think that the fact that some viewers can’t decode symbols and their meaning is why movie-making has gone from being the Seventh Art into simply just popcorn-eating distraction.
That’s because you missed the Porg praying for the sweet release of death after stowing away on the Falcon and being tossed around like a rag doll.
That’s because you missed the Porg praying for the sweet release of death after stowing away on the Falcon and being tossed around like a rag doll.
The porg incident was meant as comedy; pure and simple. Even if you didn’t find it funny. Don’t forget we also see Chewie toss one across the cockpit of the Falcon: hardly gentle behavior toward wildlife.
Rose took umbrage with the treatment of the fathiers because they were beaten, not because they were being raced. You don’t have to be a vegan to be against beating the s$%^ out of animals. I don’t beat my dog. Does that make me some sort of vegan advocate? Do you think it’s okay to abuse animals? Do tell.
I don’t think the issue here is with “some viewers” unable to decode symbols. Rather, it’s with some viewers not able to grasp shades of meaning. Seeing Rose troubled by seeing an animal abused and running to the conclusion that Johnson is trying for some sort of “pro-Vegan” message is superficial, simplistic interpretation.
Binary, black & white thinking won’t serve you well when interpreting art.
The porg incident was meant as comedy; pure and simple. Even if you didn’t find it funny. Don’t forget we also see Chewie toss one across the cockpit of the Falcon: hardly gentle behavior toward wildlife.
Rose took umbrage with the treatment of the fathiers because they were beaten, not because they were being raced. You don’t have to be a vegan to be against beating the s$%^ out of animals. I don’t beat my dog. Does that make me some sort of vegan advocate? Do you think it’s okay to abuse animals? Do tell.
I don’t think the issue here is with “some viewers” unable to decode symbols. Rather, it’s with some viewers not able to grasp shades of meaning. Seeing Rose troubled by seeing an animal abused and running to the conclusion that Johnson is trying for some sort of “pro-Vegan” message is superficial, simplistic interpretation.
Binary, black & white thinking won’t serve you well when interpreting art.
That’s what I got from the Porg scene too. Actually, most Porg scenes are probably meant to get us to laugh at their expense.
Even people at Lucasfilm thought the lightsaber scene could have ended the way a good chunk of viewers thought it could. They couldn’t even resist putting it in the film’s art book.
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Maybe my favorite panel in the “Art of..” book. While I really didn’t jibe with most of the humor in TLJ, I did find some of it legitimately funny. That scene with the porgs (even the…less tragic version that made it into the film) was hilarious. I also liked Finn’s awakening.
As a plant-based nutter myself, this film does very little to shed a positive spin on animal rights. Set those space horses free and they’re all gonna die in the woods.
And Luke with the milk really skeeved me out — I always saw Jedi as an analog to Buddhism & eastern philosophy, which encourages respect & reverence towards all living things.That look on his face was creepy as fuck.
That’s the problem with all the message and symbolism in this movie, it was done poorly. Nobody is freaking out that there are strong women, or that Luke had to die, or that selling weapons for war is bad, the whole problem with this movie is that all that was done badly, blatantly and amateurishly.
Yep, that’s utter lack of nuance in virtue signaling — which in my view is another way of saying self-sabotage.
Pick ups not reshoot. It would be unusual for a film to lock this far from release.
Wasn’t The Lat Jedi locked since last September, just the same time now for Solo?
TLJ thus far has been more the exception then the rule. TFA wasn’t locked until like a month prior to the premiere.
OMG they need to shoot an extreme close-up of someone’s hand picking up a prop / they need to get a different reaction shot in that dimly lit scene / they need to shoot an establishing shot of that location they couldn’t get access to before…..TIME TO FREAK OUT AHHH!!!
I guess this is where I put that sarcasm tag for those who are sarcasm-impaired. *SARCASM*
MORE FUCKING RESHOOTS?
It worked for RO, I guess, but geez. The movies like *4.5* months away at this point.
4.5*
– Not Pomojema
Pick ups…
Mad Max: Fury Road had extensive reshoots too and it turned out to be one of my all time favourite movies so the Solo movie could still turn out to be a wonderful movie. Ron Howard is an experienced professional so I have high hopes for the Solo movie even though the production didn’t go as smoothely as I had hoped for. If anything KK is to blame for the chaotic production.
You know, I honestly just didn’t get the love for Fury Road. mean, it’s competently made, and there’s some super action beats, I guess but…mostly I was bored by it?
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As far as KK goes? I think either she really bit off way more than she could chew when she accepted the appointment to the board of LFL, or she’s trying to juggle a LOT more interference from Disney than anyone wants to admit is going on, which is making it look like she’s just floundering around randomly. The former I guess I could buy, as most of her previous success as a producer came while acting as front office for Spielberg, a director who didn’t need to be, nor realistically could she have done anything to manage, so who really knows how competent she is as a producer? In the latter possibility though, one has to admit that she HAS had a long career in a tough, tough industry, and it’s hard for me to believe she’s just THIS bad at her job. Maybe Disney is peppering her with conflicting notes; maybe she needs to focus on running the company and NOT try to also be an executive producer on the films too.
It appears that they are just pick ups. These are just minor establishing shots or close ups that fill in a little extra information. This is totally normal.
I know, but this Han Solo movie has given me trust issues, so I might overreact a bit.
Isn’t the real question, “Where is the trailer?”
Isn’t the real question, “Where is the trailer?”
I really don’t care where it is, I just want to know when it will arrive.
Haha, but my concern isn’t just seeing it or having specific date. I’m also concerned about why it hasn’t been released. BTW, I’ve read elsewhere (surprised by nothing on this site) that it will air during GMA this Friday, January 12th.
On another note, I keep reading about people’s various levels of excitement for this film (I’m excited), but even if the traitor gives me pause, I will certainly go see it. It’s strange being a fan. I don’t react this way at all for most films… even Marvel films FWIW.
This is one of those read between the lines moments
1. No Solo trailer with TLJ
2. Rumors of a possible push in release date
3. Now more reshoots after 80% of the film was already reshot.
4. Now the trailer before GMA is in doubt for Friday
“ooohhh a Conspiracy Theorist, one of those…”
1. I’ve heard talk a trailer has been ready to go for a while now.
2. Rumours!
3. Rumours!
4. More rumours! The Friday date itself is only a rumour at this point. Not saying it won’t drop on Friday, but this rumour originated from some user on Reddit I believe.
I wish you could read the lines themselves, forget between them haha.
“BTW, I’ve read elsewhere (surprised by nothing on this site) that it will air during GMA this Friday, January 12th.”
That’s because unfortunately it’s still only a rumour it will drop this Friday. Not saying it won’t happen, but I’ll believe it when it does.
If you read all the way through, it’s mentioned as a rumor in the article.
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It’s crazy that I am now more excited for Solo, and whatever spin-off comes next, than the Saga movies. TLJ has killed any enthusiasm I had left for the Saga movies. However, Solo will probably be a trainwreck…. but at least a fun trainwreck.
It’s crazy that I am now more excited for Solo, and whatever spin-off comes next, than the Saga movies. TLJ has killed any enthusiasm I had left for the Saga movies. However, Solo will probably be a trainwreck…. but at least a fun trainwreck.
I agree, in hindsight, I think it would have been better if the saga films stopped at 6 and other spin offs or films set thousands of years before would have been a better way to go.
Believe me, you’d probably be screaming bloody murder if Lucasfilm had missed the opportunity to give you more of Leia once Carrie Fisher had passed away.
I’m most interested to see what people are saying in ten years or so when they grew up with the Sequel Trilogy … my guess is they won’t feel the same way as you!
Agreed. I now really wish Luke, Leia and Han’s story ended in RotJ.
Agreed. I now really wish Luke, Leia and Han’s story ended in RotJ.
So you are more excited for a movie that comes out in 5 months than one that comes out in 2 years. Makes sense.
I just don’t care about the Saga film narrative or characters anymore…. sue me…
“Don’t panic”. If I got a dime for every time I heard that recently, I certainly wouldn’t!
More of a Frazer man than a Jones, I see. Good on you!
to those who don’t think Disney cares about the fan backlash.
They noticed, THANK GOD they noticed, seems like some fresh eyes are looking at this film objectively and maybe attempting to reduce some of the side quest, bad comedy of Last Jedi
I’m sure we will get a trailer that now has a lot of stuff in it that wont make the final cut. It worked with Rogue One
No. These are pick ups. Its not whatever it is you think. TLJ “backlash” wont hurt Star Wars. People who dislike it are far more vocal, thats true. Its eye popping because the people who liked it arent making videos or outspoken as opposed to those were crushed by the film. Guys… The bottom line doesnt support the “split” narrative. TLJ exposed hardcore nostalgia fans is all. No coincidence more casuals movie going fans enjoy it than “Star Wars” fans
they already had reshoots, the production cost on this film is now at 400 million, almost double what it cost to make TLJ.
Dont get me wrong I would be happy if they looked at it again and spent 200 million more, to make sure we dont get another TLJ
400 milion $? No way. I wolud really want to know where did you get that. It would be the most expensive film ever made. A spin off.
Look it up. Just no way.
http://www.themovieparadise.com/2017/10/ron-howard-reshoots-solo-a-star-wars-story-han-phil-lord-chris-miller.html
Thank you.
But whoever wrote this was wrong. R1 costed 200 million it says. So they assume Solo will cost the same. Fair enough. But the cost of R1 included everything from pre production to post producton, everything:
1. The wage of the cast and crew.
For reshoots you don’t have to pay them the whole amount of money again. The reshoots took place almost the same time as principal photograpy so most of the crew should have been avalible for the whole time.
2. The props
They didn’t have to remake all the props and costumes for the reshoots thats for sure. Good examples are the clothes of Han and Lando.
3. Post production.
They didn’t do any VFX for this film befre the reshoots, and even if they started to make the digital models off stuff, they still can reuse them.
And finally R1 costed 200 million with a massive amount of resoots included. Rumours said they reshoot 40% of the film. And they still fit in the 200 million budget.
So again I’m sure Solo wouldn’t cost 400 million. It will cost around 250-300 at the worst case.
yes, we wont know the real production costs until the film’s release, even re-shoots cost money.
but by the same token we dont know yet how extensive the overhaul was, maybe the sets were bad, props, costumes.
We know of at least one role that had to be recast, did any other principals cost them money?
Many actors may have had other commitments lined up that had to be pushed back, it happens, studios often compensate other studios when this happens.
But thanks for the intelligent reply, not the standard manchildren response LOL
yes, I’m sure it costed a lot, just not another 200 million. Even if they had to compensate other studios and make some new sets, I’m sure they don’t have to remake everything from scratch. Not to mention the vfx.
But again I have to say i don’t expect much from this film, it has a huge chance of being nothing more but a mess.
yes, I’m sure it costed a lot, just not another 200 million. Even if they had to compensate other studios and make some new sets, I’m sure they don’t have to remake everything from scratch. Not to mention the vfx.
But again I have to say i don’t expect much from this film, it has a huge chance of being nothing more but a mess.
No one knows the actual budget or the costs, but thanks for the fake news!
that is pretty true.
You kind of missed the second sentence above there, didn’t you: “… bear in mind that this new round of filming is stated to be pick-ups to aid in the post-production process and not a significant overhaul of the existing movie.”
They overhaul was last year, when up to 80% of the movie was reshot
https://www.cinemablend.com/news/1719379/how-much-of-the-han-solo-movie-might-have-been-reshot
Exactly. With 80% of the film being re-shot, pick-ups for the film at this stage are basically equivalent to non-vital re-shoots for a film which didn’t have a troubled production.
then I guess we can expect the release date to fall back to December
I’d say that’s very possible.
When that doesn’t happen, I expect you to comment that you were wrong.
What’s up against it if released in December.? I’m sure they don’t want to go right up against Mary Poppins
Yes – the overhaul was last year when up to 80% was re-shot. So how does that comment support your theory about Disney caring about the fan backlash of The Last Jedi. Considering the overhaul was MONTHS before the release of The Last Jedi!!??
this article is speaking to the round of reshoots that will happen into Feb, There is no mention of the original overhaul
THOSE ARE NOT RESHOOTS, THEY ARE PICK UPS.
Learn to read, baby boy.
Yes, child, that part was last year. THIS part has nothing to do with that.
Read much?
Yes, they care so much about fan backlash that they are probably reshooting all the close ups of Alden Ehrenreich’s arms and pants.
Yes, they care so much about fan backlash that they are probably reshooting all the close ups of Alden Ehrenreich’s arms and pants.
I only take this as good news, a positive
Jesus Christ, I think I may block you now because you have proven you don’t have the first damn clue what you are talking about.
Pick ups are a normal part of filming and they aren’t reshoots: they are for continuity and to make scenes flow together better. The last little bits to make a more cohesive edit.
If you think this is the result of Disney caring what a bunch of whiny manbabies thinks about TLJ, you are sorely mistaken.
The “Disney-Lucasfilm fan-genuflecting disaster” narrative has to be kept afloat somehow, right?
And somehow they do! Almost impressive if it weren’t so sad.
lol
Even if someone at Lucasfilm or Disney were to look at these boards, comments like this fella’s aren’t going to prompt them to reconsider the direction of Star Wars. They’re going to view posts like this as the barely coherent, uninformed ramblings that they are. And opinions like that just aren’t given that much serious attention. They’re dismissed.
A lot of the repetitively negative comments here come from a small group of folks and can’t stop saying the same thing over and over and over again. Boiled down, the vast majority of their issues with the current direction of Star Wars seem to fall mostly along these lines:
1. I don’t like the movie(s), therefore they are bad movies.
2. I don’t like too many people of color and girls in the movies.
3. The movie isn’t want I “wanted”, “needed”, or “deserved.”
4. It’s for kids.
Granted, there are some articulate and nuanced critics of Star Wars in the post-Lucas era. Some of them post here. Jimsy, for example, is someone that I disagree with on TLJ but someone that I could easily have a beer with while discussing and debating the film. But too many of those that clearly no longer enjoy the Star Wars brand operate as little more than pests.
Even if someone at Lucasfilm or Disney were to look at these boards, comments like this fella’s aren’t going to prompt them to reconsider the direction of Star Wars. They’re going to view posts like this as the barely coherent, uninformed ramblings that they are. And opinions like that just aren’t given that much serious attention. They’re dismissed.
A lot of the repetitively negative comments here come from a small group of folks and can’t stop saying the same thing over and over and over again. Boiled down, the vast majority of their issues with the current direction of Star Wars seem to fall mostly along these lines:
1. I don’t like the movie(s), therefore they are bad movies.
2. I don’t like too many people of color and girls in the movies.
3. The movie isn’t want I “wanted”, “needed”, or “deserved.”
4. It’s for kids.
Granted, there are some articulate and nuanced critics of Star Wars in the post-Lucas era. Some of them post here. Jimsy, for example, is someone that I disagree with on TLJ but someone that I could easily have a beer with while discussing and debating the film. But too many of those that clearly no longer enjoy the Star Wars brand operate as little more than pests.
I have zero issue with people who dislike the movie, but at least have a basic concept of what the hell you are talking about! These people are hopeless.
Jimsy: They’re replacing Alden Errorcast with Harrison Ford because a 75 year-old pretending to be 50 years younger would still make for a more convincing Han Solo than this little peanut on platform heels.
Ummm…sounds alot like Kent
I don’t know. Kent has to CAPS every other word like he’s arguing in an AOL chat room from 1997. His comments are also constrained to three very specific ideas:
1. How much he hates Rose
2. How much he wanted to see Luke act like a video game superhero
3. Why the movies would have made 125 trillion dollars if the Big 3 were all together
lol
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j7ftfRiWlg
I have a bit more restraint with the mechanics of my keyboard, but Kent speaks his mind and there ain’t nuttin’ wrong with that. I’d say he’s a braver man than me.
This isn’t a court of law — it’s a silly forum for silly people. Lighten up.
Don’t even give that tool any ideas. We already have his “Ruin Johnson” crap… we don’t need “Alden Errorcast” also.
BTW – he has been somewhat silent since it was announced that TLJ is the sixth biggest film in American history… coincidence?
manbabies…drink!
gonna block you…drink!
this is normal…drink!
Mindless response that doesn’t address any of the things that show you don’t know what you are talking about…drink!
mindless response… drink
I have provided links for EVERYTHING i stated, not feelings, or wishes, hard links, many from this website itself.
attack me all you want, im not going anywhere, LOL
Yet you clearly didn’t read or understand the article above.
You clearly have no concept of what pick ups are or how these pick ups have zero to do with any reception from TLJ.
So you can stay here and stay being ignorant all you want LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOL
IDK, it sounds Chris has seen an early cut of the film and knows what its issues are. He definitely has the inside track.
If they are really that affected by “fan backlash,” they can go ahead and remake the damn prequels while they’re at it…
So true. While there is definitely a certain segment of fandom that doesn’t like TLJ, this is nothing compared to the general feelings of malaise when the Prequels were being rolled out. Yep, there are a lot folks that really hate TLJ. There are also a lot of folks that loved it and some of those folks found it to be the most daring and engaging Star Wars movie since ROTJ.
This stands in stark contrast to the Prequels. Anyone that was an adult when TPM was released probably remembers the general climate of ‘meh’ that pervaded the fanbase. Most folks didn’t hate those movies, but most certainly didn’t love them. In general, people sorta found them to be…well…just okay. That’s certainly how I felt. I’d imagine that Lucasfilm would rather see a Star Wars fandom engaged in debate over a film than folks walking out of theaters, shrugging their shoulders, and not really talking about it.
I kind of remember it this way to. I really don’t recall when the real hate…like, you raped my childhood hate…started. Personally, I left TPM shaking my head the Lucas had decided to make the movie so obviously aimed at young kids. I went reluctantly to AOTC and was dragged to ROTS (fortunately).
No internet platform existed back then of course. I can only imagine…
Yeah, I know the real Lucas hate existed here and there, but not in the circles I moved in. A lot of my fan buddies didn’t like the movies – lots of us poked fun at them – but we also had the perspective that if you’re really going to get worked up over something like this, then that might speak to deeper issues. I’ll vet my Star Wars fan-cred against anyone, but my life isn’t thrown into turmoil over a movie I don’t like.
Right they are just movies after all…albeit with a rich backstory of world building. Some of the haters though…you would think TLJ was cause for a holy war on the Mouse.
Ironically for me, the Clone Wars show raised my opinion of the PT. Ironic, because early Ashoka annoyed me with Skyguy and R2D2ie. That show, my kids and KOTR and SWTOR help me remember the PT more fondly that I did in the day.
For all my tepid feelings towards the Prequels, the Clone Wars cartoon is one of my favorite entries into the Star Wars narrative. It has its weak spots, but when it’s good, it’s really good.
One of my disappointments with the Prequels stems from something that old Ben told Luke. In his hut, Obi-Wan talks about Luke’s father and both what a cunning warrior he was and also what a great friend. But we just don’t get to see too much of this. In E1, Anakin’s a young child. In AOTC, he’s a petulant teenager bristling under the tutelage of his master. And in ROTS…well…they’re just not in that movie together all that much. When they meet at the end, its as enemies. The animated series really provided some room to showcase their friendship. It also makes Anakin’s transformation into Vader at the end of ROTS that much more dramatic. I didn’t much like the Anakin from the Prequel films so I didn’t much care that he turned into Vader. But the Anakin from the Clone Wars animated series? Yeah, he’s a cool hero…I don’t want to see him go bad.
Yes exactly!
“…my kids…”
I think having children really changes one’s perspective on a lot of this stuff. I’m regularly amazed at the issues people take with Star Wars content aimed at children. Star Wars was a kids movie that lots of adults enjoyed. Some folks don’t care to hear that, but it’s true.
I’m not an overly enthusiastic fan of Rebels. It’s okay, but I probably wouldn’t watch much of it if I had no children. But my boys love it and I love watching it with them. So…puffer pigs don’t bother me because my kids get excited and laugh when they see them whereas some dude without kids might get righteously indignant that “his” Star Wars is being disrespected and hightails it to his computer to rage once the episode ends.
We had alot of fun with Rogue 1 seeing all the Rebels references and it was great to see Disney recognize the show’s relevance. My kids made me do a full marathon before TLJ came out. I got alot of “come on Dad, it’s not that bad.” They’re right.
My beef with Lucas was always that since I was the 10 yo kid in 77, I expected the movies to be more adult as I aged with them. ESB was, ROTJ less so. From that perspective, the PTs were such a let down. I resigned myself to “I had my trilogy” and wasn’t interested in all in a Disney reboot. Now I couldn’t be happier about these new films. Well, maybe a little.
My kids love to watch Clone wars. Both show. But were totally uninterested with Rebels…
Good to know
Maybe if more adult fans enjoyed the show it wouldn’t be getting canned early. Further, I heard that clone wars was cancelled because it’s audience aged out and that was 10x as mature as rebels. The more kiddy you make it, the shorter the shelf life it will have. The OT meanwhile survives as great cinema for adults and kids not because of nostalgia but because they genuinely great all around pictures, not pandering cash grabs.
Are you sure it’s getting “canned early”? From what I’ve always understood, the show’s running length was determined quite a while ago.
“…I heard that clone wars was cancelled because it’s audience aged out…”
I’ve never heard this. The cancelling of The Clone Wars was more likely due to an overall shift in the time period that new Star Wars stories were going to take place. The Prequel era had been the focus of Star Wars storytelling for over 15 years.
“…not pandering cash grabs.”
Sorry, but that phrase has been tossed about so much over the last several years that it’s utterly lost all meaning. People slap “pandering cash grab” on anything they don’t like.
if it was getting any sort of ratings the show would definitely go the six or seven seasons that freddie prinze said it could.
the stuff about clone wars comes from pablo hidalgo so do with it as you will.
if something is said a lot, there just might be a reason for it…
It’s not very often that I fall asleep in the theatre. But with TPM, I dozed off 2 or 3 times.
This really is just part of the process.
Attributing pick-ups to baclklash against TLJ sounds a bit like hate wish fulfilment. Reshoots on the other hand, different story. I hope Ron Howard’s reshoots work as well as Gareth Edward’s did on Rogue 1.
Ron Howard gets a chance to redeem the disaster of TLJ. I sincerely hope the movie does well to honor the hero mythos and gives Han some love.
I thank God daily they didn’t use Lando in Ep.8 too. As long as they don’t put pink pussy hats on the characters, it’ll be fine…
Yep, there it is again. So threatened by women haha. Sad! Sorry you got cucked!
“don’t panic” I’m very far from panicking. I don’t have any big expectations. The film can be fun and I’m sure it will have a lot of fan service moments, but beyond that…I reall need a trailer to convince me that it’s worth the waiting.
there are now enough sources saying a trailer comes out in 2 days. SWNN has no such story. Maybe im naief but are you guys so big now that you get embargo’s from lucasfilm directly or dont you want to get on this hypetrain?
Or those other sources are wrong?
Or those other sources are wrong?
offcourse. Probably most likely. But then i would expect SWNN to debunk it ☺ maybe im paranoia
If we don’t report something it’s because our EIC and editors decide not to, whether that’s due to information we have or simply a decision to not run with a story. The only time we are under an embargo is like with The Last Jedi movie review, we could not release it until a certain specific time.
“No need to report that to him until we have something to report”
If we don’t report something it’s because our EIC and editors decide not to, whether that’s due to information we have or simply a decision to not run with a story. The only time we are under an embargo is like with The Last Jedi movie review, we could not release it until a certain specific time.
“No need to report that to him until we have something to report”
thanks.
I wish news articles came with a quiz about the content in the article that readers were required to pass before being allowed to comment on the article.
lmao. I like it.
’cause free speech is so 2017, right?
Sorry but the ability to comment in online discussion boards is not a constitutionally protected freedom. SWNN and Disqus have the right to establish virtually any obstruction to access they want.
Sorry but the ability to comment in online discussion boards is not a constitutionally protected freedom. SWNN and Disqus have the right to establish virtually any obstruction to access they want.
Then can you go ahead and block me?
Please?
(I don’t wanna subject your poor virgin eyes & ears to my ruthless propaganda.)
So you’re admitting that you do now and will in the future express uninformed opinions in the SWNN discussion boards?
I can express oopsie poopsy titsy witsy hoopsie frooopsie rammaa lamma ding dong on a stick… whenever the fuck I want.
Can ya dig it?
#winning
They’re replacing Alden Errorcast with Harrison Ford because a 75 year-old pretending to be 50 years younger would still make for a more convincing Han Solo than this little peanut on platform heels.
If only…
Is there hate out there already for AE? I thought he was good in Hail Caesar
I hated that movie but I could see the kid making Solo work. I’m not really hung up on Ford.
I just want the story to be good. One thing I liked about R1 was it’s tone was different, grounded even. I can definitely see a pattern with the saga now. I don’t want it to become formulaic. I actually do want more from the Star Wars universe. Yes I want it better than even the OT. Not just a constant homage to it. Evolve…
Not saying it hasn’t in someways. Mainly modern effects and acting.
Nothing was good about Hail Caesar.
Nothing was good about Hail Caesar.
I don’t hate the guy. Hate the recast and that he looks and talks nothing like Harrison Ford. I hope this turns out to be an in-universe dramatization of Solo’s life and we get Harrison telling the director “that’s not how it happened… and Chewie and I are way taller!
I’m getting hyped for the trailer. I hope for the unexpected… yet familiar. Oh the fine rope poor Lucasfilm has to walk.
I think you just nailed the entire new Star Wars canon in three sentences. Well played sir.
Anyone else notice (haven’t seen it in the comments) that the ship in the character photo is NOT the Millennium Falcon? Look closely.
I’m starting to suspect that isn’t Harrison Ford, Billy Dee, and Peter Mayhew either.
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So they recast the Millennium Falcon? With what, the Millennial Falcon? Wonder what kind of bathrooms does it have on board?
They’re certainly recasting the toy molds. I wouldn’t be surprised to see multiple configurations of the Falcon in order to milk toy sales.
The real question is how to stop Chewie from clogging the shower drain.
Green Milking those toy sales! ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant.
Green Milking those toy sales! ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant.
Millennial Falcon. Fits with the SJW Jedi theme of the Disney SW franchise! Love it.
I never thought Star Wars could sink so low.
or could it be that this is the Falcon before Han made “a few special modifications” and the reason that Lando ask what Han did to his ship?
They already stated that the Milennium Falcon will have it’s original paint job in this movie…hence the blue colored sections.
Any legs to Friday trailer drop rumor ?
Newest rumors say no plans for trailer
Anyone still thinks this movie will be a success? Brutal failure to hold on may and not later in december. If KK is not fired after this…
Seriously, they have to fire the person responsible for producing three $1B+ movies in a row. Especially if Solo ONLY earns $500M dollars in pure profit. C’mon Disney, get rid of the adults and put hysterical fanboys in charge over there!
Heh heh.
I don’t know what’s more hilarious: their presuming to know more than a producer whose resume is basically a list of some of the most beloved movies of the last 35 years, who made over $4 billion on the last 3 movies she produced, or the amazing alternate stories they write for these things in their heads which they get angry for the film not duplicating.
The Star Wars films wouldn’t done just as well without her. In fact, she’s a detriment to franchise’s future.
The Star Wars films wouldn’t done just as well without her. In fact, she’s a detriment to franchise’s future.
Ha, no.
That would be a vast improvement.
Kathy is in a no-win scenario to meet the demands of the masters, and must be exhausted by now. I’d guess that whenever her contract is up, she might exit this circus strictly for her own sanity.
Rest-assured, she is clear who her masters are…and none of them frequent this forum.
Coming off yet another critically acclaimed, $1B+ movie, she is perfectly comfortable with the way things are going, despite the vocal hate minority.
Not sure why anyone would assume the execs would frequent the forums. That’s why they hire weasely little minions to do it instead.
Actually, I think she is winning and Lucasfilm is winning and Disney is winning and when her contract is up she’s going to push for a very sizable increase in her pay and she’ll deserve it.
does this comment put *you* in the running for a pay increase?
You need a checkup from the neck up.
Since she’s been in the game since the early 80’s. You don’t last that long as a female producer unless you are both exceptional at your job and love it. Kathy’s playing the long game, she won’t retire until she’s made it to the very top. I can seeing her having her eyes on being Bob Iger’s successor. She’s one of the names already being tauted for the position when he steps down.
Since she’s been in the game since the early 80’s. You don’t last that long as a female producer unless you are both exceptional at your job and love it. Kathy’s playing the long game, she won’t retire until she’s made it to the very top. I can seeing her having her eyes on being Bob Iger’s successor. She’s one of the names already being tauted for the position when he steps down.
I dunno — i wonder where her career would have gone if George never passed the torch.
I dunno — i wonder where her career would have gone if George never passed the torch.
She should’ve retired when she was ahead, seeing she’s showing that she might not have what it takes anymore to get the job done.
“She should’ve retired when she was ahead..”
She’s the head of Lucasfilm. Executive produced three $1bn+ movies, one of which earned over $2bn at the global box office.
She is currently ahead.
She needs to GTFO, now, if not sooner.
Would it be a viable strategy for Disney to release this film directly to its upcoming streaming service? Sorta as an analog to the Star Trek miniseries becoming flagship programming for CBS All Accees? They’d spare themselves the risk of a box office disaster and instead salvage the movie as a way to rope in new subscribers.
Just a thought.
Solo isn’t going to be a box office disaster. it’s going to be a fun movie that makes a butt load of money.
Coming off of two poorly received films, Revenge of the Sith made over $800M. Solo is coming off of three critically acclaimed smash hits that made over a $1B. Even a bad Star Wars film would get to $700M at this point. If anything hurts the financial success of Solo it will be Infinity Wars still eating up a lot of the same audience.
Don’t forget Animal Crackers.
With the summer schedule so packed don’t count on this having any where near the legs of the last three. If this doesn’t crush opening weekend they will be in trouble.
With the summer schedule so packed don’t count on this having any where near the legs of the last three. If this doesn’t crush opening weekend they will be in trouble.
That’s definitely not a fact that has eluded Disney. I think we care more about box office returns than they do. They’re going to make a ridiculous return on their investment regardless.
I beg to differ. Fans care about the box office in a superficial, scoreboard type of way. To a company like Disney the amount of money they make in any venture is the primary concern. Now to us we know Disney is swimming in money already but to them there is no such thing as enough money, only how much more can they make. If solo “underperforms” they won’t merely shrug their shoulders and forget about it, they and their shareholders will want to know why it happened. This isn’t the old lucasfilm, this is corporate America.
I beg to differ. Fans care about the box office in a superficial, scoreboard type of way. To a company like Disney the amount of money they make in any venture is the primary concern. Now to us we know Disney is swimming in money already but to them there is no such thing as enough money, only how much more can they make. If solo “underperforms” they won’t merely shrug their shoulders and forget about it, they and their shareholders will want to know why it happened. This isn’t the old lucasfilm, this is corporate America.
Of course Disney cares about the box office but your point about it being a “scoreboard” for fans is what I mean. People root for or against this stuff like it’s sports. Which is to say completely illogically. If ‘Solo’ underperforms Disney isn’t going to light it’s hair on fire and start firing people. They’ll collect invaluable data about how Star Wars performs in the current summer movie season and they’ll correct whatever missteps they determine they’ve made. Even if Solo tanks they’ve been incredibly successful with Star Wars. However, certain people on the internet are going to explode with declarations that Star Wars is dead if ‘Solo’ makes anything south of $1b.
” If ‘Solo’ underperforms Disney isn’t going to light it’s hair on fire
and start firing people. ”
nor should they. i think they main postmortem question will be, why did we leave december when its been so profitable? also, if this makes 1 billion i would be shocked. i’m thinking more around 800 mil.
I love how he refers to Disney as “they”.
This is going to be a rushed disaster. No way they can put out a quality product with this insane production schedule.
When I first read this article I remember thinking that warning people not to panic over pick-ups was stupid…like as stupid as AMC putting warning signs up that the audio is supposed to cut out for 10 seconds during the Holdo ramming scene.
You proved me wrong.
He’s not panicking over pick-ups.
Rather, he’s commenting on the short production time. Frankly, all the Disney films have had a far too short production time. Their productions have been rushed, and it shows.
I think the product we havs seen up on the screen thus far from Disney has been terrific. You’re entitle to disagree.
Since Gideon is commenting on a story about pick-ups, I’ll stick to my guns.
I do disagree. I think the material we’ve seen Disney produce is creatively cannibalistic and bankrupt. The stories have been shallow and unnuanced. The new characters are one dimensional and boring. I also think that social justice politics is like a Reverse Midas Touch that instantly turns anything it touches into pure garbage. It’s already happened with Marvel Comics, and it’s in the process of happening to the NFL now too.
I’ll agree with you there. I want SW to be more like R1 and not at all like Thor and Spiderman Homecoming. I enjoyed both those movies, but too much humor.
I enjoyed a lot TLJ humor. It would be great in any other movie, just not Sstar Wars.
Nope, I’m talking about the whole mess this film production has been.
That’s what it appeared you were talking about.
Now this is a guess, but I suspect the fan-backlash from the Bantha guy on these boards for the lack of Banthas in TLJ has LF and Disney worried. These extra pick-ups are to include Bantha scenes in the Solo film to make it good with the Bantha fan-base.
It’s clear that TLJ has failed financially among Banthas.
At last something we can all agree upon!
Oh man…it’s going to be bloody.
I’m a Bantha and I enjoyed it.
this isn’t hard to figure out,unless you have Disney Blind Syndrome
Apparently, it’s impossible for you.
I remember Peter Jackson talking about taking freshly developed, still wet film to the Wellington (I think) premiere of FOTR. The point is, like any project, they will work on these thing to the last possible moment to get it right.
You really have to want to find a conspiracy to believe there is one here. Pick-ups = normal.
I remember Peter Jackson talking about taking freshly developed, still wet film to the Wellington (I think) premiere of FOTR. The point is, like any project, they will work on these thing to the last possible moment to get it right.
You really have to want to find a conspiracy to believe there is one here. Pick-ups = normal.
im convinced some will buy any thing they’re told…blindly.
Why not? 3 weeks wouldn’t be enough to overhaul the film as some fans want it to be in response to their personal opinion of TLJ, despite having not even seen one second of it, and remove most of its humour, despite the assumption that the tone already shifted a bit when Ron Howard came on board.
Pick-Ups are a perfectly normal part of the film making process.
Nearly everything else that’s happened with this movie thus far; not so much.
I’m genuinely curious as to whether anyone still thinks that Lord & Miller were fired from Solo for making it too much of a comedy, after seeing all the failed jokes in The Last Jedi?
They were fired for shooting it like a comedy (lots of improvisations of the script on set) and not helping out their young lead actor… that’s what I heard though
I also heard that Lord and Miller would often debate each other and contradict each other. The crew was pretty darn happy when they got Ron Howard.
I read that too, that there was standing applause or something.
But one would think that if this were the case, that Lord & Miller would have developed a reputation for being difficult on all of their other films. But that isn’t the case, which leads me to suspect that this tidbit is a fabrication.
They were largely only involved in comedies and lighter fair. So… they probably fit those projects better.
Maybe.
Maybe they were out of their depth and this caused friction between them which lowered morale on set? It’s all speculation for the next few years.
I agree, it’s all pure speculation. But the simplest answer is usually the correct one.
Are there seperate multiple issues with all of these dejected Disney/Lucasfilm directors?
Or is there really just one singular issue with the current President of Lucasfilm who hires and works with all of these directors?
Lord and Miller take the high road while anonymous people take shots at them. Classy bunch working on that film.
Right, but does that story make sense to you now, in light of all the comedy in TLJ?
It does actually because it wasn’t a comedy focus in TLJ and it was the style of shooting the film which was a “comedy style” that got Lord and Miller let go… I don’t think Rian Johnson ran the TLJ set in that way. Again, most of this is just repeating what i’ve taken from random tidbits of info
Fair enough. Thanks for your opinion.
I recall the actor had commented that his Solo character was supposed to be sarcastic, not the goofball Lord and Miller were making him out to be. I think that comment is right on and hope that was what was behind KK’s decision.
That said, there was some TLJ humor that didn’t work for me or that felt too PT – like. Who know’s? You imply that you don’t think it was the comedy, what do you think the reason was?
I’m not really sure myself, I’m just farming out for opinions here.
I think it odd that Lord & Miller were supposedly fired for making Solo to jokey, when TLJ was clearly far too jokey itself.
But this oddness is also viewed in the shadow of several dejected directors under Disney. I think there’s a story to be told here, but it’s not in the Star Wars universe, it’s in ours. Can’t wait for the NDAs to expire.
I’m betting that Chewbacca is who gets the radar dish stuck in the upright position .
Damn hairballs
‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi’ Editor Regrets Admiral Ackbar’s Fate
http://comicbook.com/starwars/2018/01/10/star-wars-the-last-jedi-admiral-ackbar-death-regret/
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/second-thoughts-off-screen-last-jedi-death_us_5a4e9279e4b089e14db988a2
As he should! Wow… reading that doesn’t really make me feel much better lol.
It’s like… “Oh, he’s a big deal? Whoops.” Makes you wonder sometimes how this stuff gets through. Before people get crazy and think I’m asking for 10 or 15 minutes with Ackbar. Something as simple as him rotating in his chair… the reflection of the missiles in his eyes. He yells… “Brace!”
Or even sadder a softly whispered… “May the Force be with us.”
It’ll be revealed in IX that VIII was all just Finn’s bad dream.
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Space morphine can make you imagine some crazy shit.
Oh man… if JJ did that lol. If Disney/LFG allowed it. 😛
Even better — throw Rose off the cliff like a lightsaber.
I think she could have worked with a better story. I mean she’s the plucky mechanic. Have her fix something under fire! *cough* replace Fathiers with pod racers *cough* I digress.
Agree. I even defended Rose to Kent before the film’s release, but she was ultimately mishandled for true true. I feel bad for Kelly — not her fault at all.
Wouldn’t that be the biggest plot twist of all time. Too Funny !!!!!! If true, why is he dreaming about killing himself only to be saved by a woman…what man does that !! LOL.
Oh, we’ve all been there.
Frankly the film could have been significantly better had Ackbar completely replaced the Holdo character. There was no reason for the Holdo character to exist other than to push a small minded political agenda.
This
Panic, no need to panic. They’re not going to ruin the character anymore than they had previously. Maybe JJ and RJ can get involved and make a story about a small band of rebels who take out a super weapons and find a wholly undertrained jedi nobody on some sandy planet.
Now it’s gtg. Very revolutionary story telling.
Everything’s all fine here…thank you. How are you??? Blast!!! This discussion gotten boring….Chewy, we gonna have company !!
Wasn’t the Williams character recast, not written out? Or am I thinking of another casualty of this film?