New Star Wars: Episode 7 Leaks & Plot Rumors.

LeaksThe internet, the so-called wretched hive of scum and villainy of modern society, may not be a friendly place for newcomers and casual readers, but it can be a vital location for would-be leakers to release information about forthcoming media projects. As such, a user from one anonymous website claims he has access to some important behind-the-scenes details on Star Wars Episode VII – some of these very rumors have been discussed on several sites over the past few months, others have barely been mentioned. Another user from a different website has recently added to the fun and backed up these rumors while posting even more…


Bear in mind – AN ABUNDANCE OF POTENTIAL SPOILERS will be included in this post, presuming that these leaks are accurate, though they’re only an outline – there’s not word on what kind of battles transpire, who falls in love, or if Max Rebo is revealed to have escaped from Jabba’s barge to fight crime with Mace Windu’s severed hand. Even still, there is a character death involved (at the very end of the post, of course), so you should make sure that you’re really ready to spoil yourself before you continue reading.



Still with us? Good. A fraction of the following stuff is admittedly questionable, but this article will quote the information in an objective light before I go into speculative mode. These are pretty huge posts, so be sure you’re comfortable before I start going in-depth on reporting them.


The first set of leaks were released on March 31, 2014. That’s way before some similar rumors were posted on the web by several sites. They came from a certain forum user called Mizzlewump who claims that he has read the 2nd draft of the Abrams/Kasdan script. We know that many of you know about these but we’re posting them again because of their connection with the second part of the rumors.

  • Leia is made leader of the Republic after her predecessor’s death
  • Han is a retired veteran of the Republic fleet
  • Luke hasn’t been seen in nearly 30 years
  • the lead character is Han and Leia’s daughter
  • the other lead is the child of Lando, and either a male or female depending on who is cast
  • the other lead is a Stormtrooper, also either a male or female depending on who is cast
  • dialogue for these two characters is very rough in the second draft
Episode 7 Stormtrooper art
Fan art by Juan Fernandez
  • Luke has no known offspring
  • The Empire still exists in the form of a number of loyal galaxies and are in a state of cold war with the Republic
  • The Empire is simply referred to as the “Empire,” and the Republic is referred to formally only once, as the “Galactic Republic;” no “New” anywhere
  • There are no Jedi whatsoever, and people still speak as if they are extinct, with Luke being “the last of his kind”
  • The main antagonists are an older student of the Emperor, and his apprentice
  • The apprentice takes control of the power dynamic between the two pretty quickly…
  • The Republic are excavating ruins on a neutral world for a weapon; the world factors into tense negotiations the Empire have had with the Republic, and is referred to as the “Sith Homeworld”


  • Loredump: In the script, the Sith are a couple thousand years old, founded by an ancestor of Palpatine called Ruin; the apprentice in this film also goes by that name
  • the ruins within the Sith Homeworld are a control station; the planet itself is the weapon
  • Luke saves the day at the end, but in a bad way; he has changed


From March 2014 to August 2014, a 2 users on a different forum stated the following really intriguing tidbits (monitored for months and paraphrased by a member of yet another board who allowed us to post them here. Huge thanks to MagnarTheGreat). We intentionally won’t mention their names because they might stop sharing. First we were hesitant if to post these. First we wanted to see how things will develop but unfortunately one of the accounts and comments were all erased so we decided to go ahead and post them. Again pay attention to the dates of every tidbit.

  • Episode VII has a one word code name; it previously just used Foodles (March 20, 2014 – later revealed to be AVCO)
  • The prequels will be ignored in the Episode VII story for a “fact” (May 8, 2014)
  • Han and Leia are not together (May 2, 2014) (May 3, 2014) (May 18, 2014)
  • The title may or may not be “The Ancient Fear”, but do not count on it (May 6, 2014)
  • After further research, the title is not “The Ancient Fear” (May 6, 2014) (May 28, 2014) (June 26, 2014) (August 7, 2014) (August 10, 2014)
  • Not being natively shot in IMAX (May 19, 2014 – we now know this one is untrue in part)

Episode VII IMAX

  • Abrams has “sort of” included a “Han shoots first” moment (May 25, 2014)
  • Said that the leaked desert set (on photo looked like Pinewood Studios back lot and not Abu Dhabi because he’s personally spent a lot of time at Pinewood (May 31, 2014 – this was true about that set being at Pinewood). Note: this image was only for a few hours on and it had to be taken down. In the post Viral explained that the image is indeed from Pinewood and not Abu Dhabi. 
  • Luke can be a big part of the plot without being on screen (June 6, 2014 – precedes most of “the search for Luke” rumors)
  • There are no ‘Jedi Hunters’ (June 18, 2014) (July 4, 2014)
  • The rumor about Mandalorians and Sith Witches is not right (June 24, 2014 – LR story about Mandalorians and Sith Witches)
  • Han leading the search for Luke is true (June 25, 2014)
  • Some of the Mizzlewump 2nd Abrams/Kasdan draft character & plot list lines up with what he’s heard; other things could be distorted. It should be spoiler tagged. (July 3, 2014 – doesn’t deny anything specific)
  • Claims to know the broad strokes of the plot (July 12, 2014)
  • There are at least 2 villains in the announced cast list (July 14, 2014)
  • Flashbacks are in the film (July 17, 2014) (July 18, 2014)

Force For Change - Thanks From Bad Robot

  • Intimates that the opening floating-in-space-Luke’s-cybernetic-hand-with-saber rumor is true; example sentences: “Old Luke loses his mechanical hand”; skin could be removed because “things tend to burn up in the atmosphere, don’t they?” (July 20, 2014) (July 21, 2014) (July 23, 2014) (July 25, 2014) (August 11, 2014) (this one is tricky because I’m not sure he’s just discussing the rumor from a position of knowledge or is just assuming it could be true)
  • Harrison Ford is in the movie more than Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill (July 23, 2014)
  • In response to someone saying that there is no way to know about Luke turning to the dark side outside of people working on the film, he posted a bunch of laughing smiley face icons (August 3, 2014 – vague)
  • Cold War situation between the galactic superpowers that could erupt at any time (July 31, 2014) (August 12, 2014)
  • Tatooine is not in the film (July 23, 2014) (August 13, 2014)
  • Han and Chewie are flying a Star Destroyer (August 15, 2014 – precedes Faraci Badass Digest article)
  • Inquisitors are not the villains (August 15, 2014 – precedes Donnelly This Is Infamous article)


  • The cyborg villain concept art is false (August 15, 2014 – precedes Donnelly This Is Infamous article)
  • Links to Donnelly’s This Is Infamous article because he says most of the day’s rumors are false (August 16, 2014 – says he’s not biased because he doesn’t like this website)
  • The opening crawl to the movie will not be immediately followed by a steady pan left, right, up or down with a ship flying as was seen in other movies of the saga (August 16, 2014)
  • The story will not revisit Tatooine and Hoth (August 20, 2014)
  • The Palpatine rumor is also wrong. (August 24, 2014 – in response to the LR Palpatine article)


There are two details I left out of the initial textdump in this second post, and I only did that because they’re huge spoilers and I’d prefer to include them them as a caption to an unrelated image. (highlight the white text below the image)


X-wing - Star Wars: Episode 7
“Has little doubt Han’s death will be a sacrificial one (May 19, 2014)”; “Killing off Han is an idea that’s been around since ROTJ; doesn’t understand how it could be considered “trolling” (August 19, 2014 – doesn’t elaborate any further)”


Some stuff from this leak that seems to be outdated by more recent rumors is the idea that Luke has been gone for 30 years (it’s more like a single decade), and that Han is retired (he’s piloting a pimped-out Super Star Destroyer). However, the rest seems to be supported by, or at least not conflicting with, newer rumors – and it’s also interesting to see that this stuff leaked out long before major outlets started reporting on them. With that out of the way, let’s get to speculating. (Don’t worry, spoilerphobes – I won’t bring up those above invisotexted spoiler to the table.)


I’ll start with what the leaks say are full of it, starting with Palpatine and going from there. Both Viral Hide and I figured that there was some sort of miscommunication or false lead as soon as that headline leaked – why would they hire someone besides Ian McDiarmid to play the character when he’s stated that he’d love to play the character again, not to mention the fact that he disconfirmed Palpatine’s appearance in the film to begin with? Palpatine’s influence over three-and-a-half decades of galactic politics will probably cast a shadow over the post-Return Of The Jedi Star Wars universe, but make no mistake – Palpy himself is as dead as a doornail, and don’t count on any of his clones (a la the now non-canon Dark Empire Trilogy) or his Force Spirit (which has been thrown out of the question by the final arc of The Clone Wars: The Lost Missions) to come into play. In addition, there’s the matter of a fear which is also ancient. That silly-sounding leak title reminded me of a similar rumor back in March 2004, which stated that Episode III would be called The Creeping Fear, which was thankfully debunked three months later when the title – Revenge Of The Sith – hit the internet. Most likely, The Ancient Fear was a working title used as a placeholder, though it’s a fitting working title if the plot rumors about the Sith are true. Now, on to the good stuff.



There’s a bit of interesting information regarding Mizzlewump’s post, as provided by the same person that relayed the secondhand set of leaks. According to some unidentified people that apparently have connections to Pinewood Studios, they have said that the first leak had some truth in it – one person mentioned that it played out like a game of “telephone”, and that some details didn’t quite match up, while another person mentioned that many details were accurate and stated that there would be a Stormtrooper protagonist. Later on, the second person directly stated that John Boyega’s character is, in fact, Lando’s son – three times, as a matter of fact. Of course, this is all still regarding an older version of the script, so some of this information may be outdated.


Luke will obviously be a central player in this movie and the ones that follow, even if he’s not on-screen for a good portion of the movie – while it’s a given that he’ll play a big part in saving the day in the end, it sounds interesting to hear that he may have lost some of his idealism by the end of the conflict. Of course, Luke’s role itself is being kept under-wraps so well that I can hardly imagine what they’ll do – but I still get the feeling that they’ll pull a “I’m Luke Skywalker and I’m here to rescue you your father” moment with one of the characters, as it was said that he had no apparent offspring. I think it’s also interesting that these rumors are really the only bit of information on Leia’s role – earning the position of top diplomat to the Galactic Republic over the course of thirty years makes sense considering her political past (which, admittedly, we’ve hardly seen). I believe that her predecessor was most likely Mon Mothma because she was also a political figure during the events of the Prequel Trilogy, and she apparently continued to serve in the government up until A New Hope when the Imperial Senate was dissolved. I also think it’s interesting to hear that Leia and Han aren’t together at the time of Episode VII when Mizzlewump suggested that the female lead (presumably Daisy Ridley) was Han and Leia’s daughter, which would mean that they were either married or they had an affair. Could some kind of falling-out have occurred between the couple, or are they just separated by their vastly different jobs in the Republic?



Speaking of the Republic, I really like the idea that the Empire and the Republic are in a continuous state of Cold War after the Galactic Civil War came to an end (on that note, I hope that the new Emperor is Max Von Sydow’s character). It doesn’t invalidate the victory of the Rebel Alliance, but at the same time it doesn’t follow the unrealistic idea that the Empire just gave up after Palpatine died and a good portion of their fleets were demolished. It leaves a feeling that there’s still work to be done (whether the Empire is still as oppressive as it once was or if they’ve become enlightened despots in response to opposition from its citizens), but that there’s also a fleeting feeling of peace before conflict returns to the galaxy. The idea behind there being some kind of a truce between the Empire and the Republic in regards to excavating the Sith homeworld shows that there may be a certain amount of cooperation between the two large organizations, but that hostilities still run deep years after all the bloodshed.


The appearance of the Sith homeworld is also interesting – it may or may not be Korriban/Moraband, though if Disney is trying to go for a unified Star Wars universe in terms of continuity, I don’t see why they wouldn’t use it to keep in line with previously-established canon. I can’t say that I’m really crazy about the idea that the entire planet is going to be a weapon, as that kind of makes it the Death Star III and thus a bit of a retread, but I’m hoping that it ends up being something akin to the Star Forge from the original Knights Of The Old Republic game instead of a generic planet-destroying doomsday device. While I’m shooting the Sith here, it’s interesting to see that they’re apparently going to use George Lucas’s old notes and bring Darth Ruin into the mix, since he had been created for the backstory of The Phantom Menace but did not appear in the movie itself (the same thing happened with Darth Bane, who was properly canonized with a cameo appearance in the series finale of The Clone Wars). I’m imagining that, if there are flashbacks in the film as the second post suggested, they will be used to relay the ancient history of the Sith instead of being about Darth Vader, or a younger Luke and Leia, as some people have suggested.



All this information is a goldmine for understanding what Episode VII, which won’t be released for another sixteen months or so, is going to be about. With that said, some of this stuff sounds questionable. The first leak went along with the idea that John Boyega’s role is playing Lando’s son, which is confusing not only because of the character’s unexplained ties to the Empire when Lando firmly established himself as a part of the Rebel Alliance, but also because of the other people being considered for the role – going off of IMDB’s trivia page for the movie, Ray Fisher, Matthew James Thomas, Ed Speleers, and Jesse Plemons were all considered for Boyega’s role, and only Ray Fisher was also Black – and many would consider this to be a prerequisite for playing Lando Junior. The second leak also supported the silly floating hand rumor – the authenticity of which has been brought into question by a number of insiders – and mentioned that it would survive re-entry, albeit that the skin would burn up (even though the artificial hand we’ve seen may be skinless, it also looks like it’s able to grip something, which would be a sign that it still works and was never cut off to begin with). The same leaker also mentioned that the movie won’t be shot in IMAX, which we have since learned isn’t true. It’s likely that a bit of this could be deliberate misdirection from Bad Robot, Lucasfilm, and Disney, as rumors are wont to do. Still, these rumors are too plentiful and potentially important to ignore; we shall continue to watch for more leaks with great interest.


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Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.

Grant Davis (Pomojema)

Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.

282 thoughts on “New Star Wars: Episode 7 Leaks & Plot Rumors.

  • September 1, 2014 at 10:32 pm

    Thx for the spoiler alert. Probably the biggest rumor-article in days and the first one i will not read.
    Thx anyway to put it for the desperates 😉

  • September 1, 2014 at 10:51 pm

    Hmm, Darth Ruin is an existing character…

    Darth Ruin, born as Phanius, was an Umbaran Jedi Master who left the Jedi Order and then became a Dark Lord of the Sith who lived over two millennia before the Battle of Yavin in 0 BBY.

    It was starting to sound good.. but then I read something about this character having founded the Sith. 2000 BBY.. that is after The Old Republic. And if it will turn out to be canon that this is when the Sith came to being… then KOTOR’s chance of coming back to the canon will be wiped out.. unless they want to change the timeline.

    • September 2, 2014 at 5:46 pm

      Yes, but remember, the EU has been derezzed.

    • September 2, 2014 at 9:54 pm

      You actually want important canon information – like the origins of the Sith – to be outlined in a video game? I am so relieved that some of the most talented people in Hollywood are tackling that subject instead.

      • September 3, 2014 at 9:21 am

        Considering that Knights of the Old Republic story line was good in its own respecs and they used writers just as good as any other out there to create it than yes I’m fine with a video game creating that era. Destroying characters because some writer in Hollywood has an ego is not a good way to treat people who have time invested in that era, when in actuallity they can make a really good story with already existing canon. In the end though Disney probably will do whatever it wants and damned be to anyone who actually cared.

  • September 1, 2014 at 10:54 pm

    We all know the two IMDB members that you’re talking about. Why didn’t you name them?

  • September 1, 2014 at 10:57 pm

    I didn’t read anything new here at all.or any “spoilers” also maybe I’m blind but I didn’t see anything about a character death inless you mean palpatine?

      • September 2, 2014 at 12:27 am

        WOW GREAT!!! Please always post like this. Everithing

      • September 2, 2014 at 2:05 am

        I really doubt anyone here thinks from the very beginning that Han would survive Episode 7 🙂 no need to even speculate about that..Ford Want to die, and he WILL die. And it will happen in E7.

  • September 1, 2014 at 11:07 pm

    It’s just torture because you get golden gems like;

    “The prequels will be ignored in the Episode VII story for a “fact” (May 8, 2014)”

    “Leia is made leader of the Republic”

    But then you get-

    “Han and Leia are not together”

    “Luke saves the day at the end, but in a bad way; he has changed”

    “Harrison Ford is in the movie more than Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill”

    “Flashbacks are in the film”

    “The opening crawl to the movie will not be immediately followed by a steady pan left, right, up or down with a ship flying as was seen in other movies of the saga ”

    and it’s just … *long exhale*

  • September 1, 2014 at 11:13 pm

    “The prequels will be ignored in the Episode VII story for a “fact” (May 8, 2014)”
    Well, I hope it is not true. It seems they just want to please the OT fans instead of pleasing all the fans. And the other rumor I didn’t liked was the Luke missing for 30 years. Maybe 5, 10 years but 30? If the rumors of Luke traveling across the galaxy to find the origins of the force, that’d be an amazing explanation.

    • September 1, 2014 at 11:21 pm

      Yeah, and then he gets captured or something.

      • September 2, 2014 at 12:03 pm

        haha~ No

    • September 1, 2014 at 11:21 pm

      Maybe they’re ignoring the prequels because that’s what is best. “for the greater good” so to speak. It’s selfish to ask for them to cater their writing to include a minority of people when it’s not good creatively. If they want to go back to the routes of why star wars worked, then that’s a good thing. It’s very dodgy to say they should cater the creative process to certain fans instead of write what they think is going to be better. Plus, the prequels were over 50 – 60 years ago in the timeline at this point. It’s not like they are ruling out anything important anyway.

      • September 2, 2014 at 12:16 am

        Yeah, but the prequels have important weight for the whole saga. The Empire arises in that Era. It’s selfish to exclude them just to please the OT fans and PT haters.

        • September 2, 2014 at 12:38 am

          That literally makes no sense. Just because something happened that caused a sequence of events, such as the start of the empire for example, doesn’t mean history has to go back to that point and revisit that era in any way. It’s like saying “the prequels had taxation of trade routes so they have to mention taxation of trade routes”. Why? They can ignore the prequels. Fact.

          • September 2, 2014 at 12:55 am

            Are you sure of that? Because, by your logic, then the OT makes no sense whatsoever either. Or what did you think that Luke and Ben were discussing when they were talking about Anakin’s origins, his eventual fall, the Clone Wars, the Jedi purge, etc. in Eps. IV and VI, if NOT the events we saw on the PT, precisely?

            The fact that many found those films not to their liking (to put it mildly) doesn’t mean that Anakin Skywalker did not become Darth Vader, or that the Emperor didn’t have the Jedi annihilated and the Republic overthrown, or that there wasn’t a conflict known as the Clone Wars.

            The ST could easily present similar offhand comments and references to the PT era in general, if only for continuity purposes, without going into detailed descriptions of places, characters, events, and so forth.

          • September 2, 2014 at 1:08 am

            “what did you think that Luke and Ben were discussing when they were talking about Anakin’s origins, his eventual fall, the Clone Wars, the Jedi purge, etc. in Eps. IV and VI, if NOT the events we saw on the PT, precisely?”

            They were mentioning past events because the audience wasn’t aware of the past events in 1977 that George wanted to use for the story. We didn’t know in 1977, so George HAD to tell us. Do we need to be reminded? In episode vii? No. Not unless they want to. Unlike episode vii, they NEEDED to tell the audience the events of the PT in the OT. They needed to tell us Vader was Luke’s father. They NEEDED to give us all this previous exposition. It was part of the story. But this is episode vii. A sequel. What do they need to bring up from the PT? Nothing. We’ve just seen the events of the PT, so they do not need to be repeated for the story of episode vii unless they want to. Do they want to? No. You want to demand that they should do and call THEM selfish because they aren’t doing what you want? Wow..

          • September 2, 2014 at 1:29 am

            lol. Yeah right. I’m sure that Leia wouldn’t warn her daughter (or Luke his niece) about what happened to her grampa, just like Obi-Wan and Yoda did with Luke, precisely.

            Actually, the mere fact that this series of rumors talk about current events being influenced by Palpatine’s strong political presence in the galaxy for 30 some yrs. is mention of the PT.

            The fact that there would still be an Empire (which was the direct result of the Clone Wars) is mention of the PT.

            The fact that there would be a Galactic Republic (as in the days of Eps. I-III) is mention of the PT.

            The fact that people would still refer to the Jedi as being extinct (another direct result of the Clone Wars) is mention of the PT.

            But you just go on thinking that there is no need to reference the PT, only because you didn’t happen to like those 3 films, lol.

          • September 2, 2014 at 1:56 am

            The fight against the empire was the story of the OT, not the PT .. You can’t even understand “The prequels will be ignored in the Episode VII story” correctly. I mean I’m sure there will be lightsabers in epvii. It’s not because of the PT..

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:03 am

            All that stuff’s really OT/OT backstory, not PT-exclusive.

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:18 am

            Come on guys. If they mention the force, it’s clearly a prequel mention. If the characters have clothes and dialogue, it’s a prequel mention. Prequels are of course the source of all the star wars highlights. Bow down to the glorious prequels guys come on it was the prequels that introduced the things that are going to be in episode vii, not the original trilogy. Don’t listen to what the meany heads say, don’t be fooled by their common sense ..

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:25 am

            “Anonymous September 02, 2014 at 01:56 AM”

            I never mentioned the Empire-Alliance conflict in my previous post. I said that the Empire was born as a direct result of the Clone Wars.

            Furthermore, it’s not the PT quality as films that matters here, but the events that took place during the PT era. And those events are intrinsically related to ANYTHING happening in the galaxy after the PT era, including the ST now.

            It’s not this fact that PT haters oppose. It’s the fact that you hate anything related to the PT. Doesn’t make PT events less of a reality in the GFFA, though.

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:58 am

            Darth Vedder, none of your ramblings actually debunk the original point.. It’s literally just a rant. It doesn’t actually prove anything.

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:50 am

            Darth Vedder:

            Hating the PT’s poor execution doesn’t mean you ignore the OT’s backstory.

          • September 2, 2014 at 3:14 am

            Agreed. But then again, the PT IS the OT’s backstory now. Nothing will change that fact. And moreover, there wasn’t a single OT fan that wasn’t itching to see the OT’s backstory on film, back when Lucas first announced that he would be making the prequels. I know because I am an OT fan, so I’ve been there since the very beginning. I’m just not a PT hater, is all.

            So Lucas messed it up in the eyes of many. Well too bad for those folk, but that doesn’t change the fact that what once was the OT backstory is now the PT. And all I’ve been saying is that any event of that era that could be mentioned in the ST will not be OT backstory anymore. For good or ill, since 2005, all of it is PT-related.

          • September 2, 2014 at 4:19 am

            I’m guessing Disney will reduce most or all PT-related references in VII to the essential backstory elements mentioned in the OT.

            “And moreover, there wasn’t a single OT fan that wasn’t itching to see the OT’s backstory on film, back when Lucas first announced that he would be making the prequels.”

            Of course there wasn’t. It’s just that none of us were expecting to see poorly made films that failed to connect well with general audiences.

            “So Lucas messed it up in the eyes of many. Well too bad for those folk, but that doesn’t change the fact that what once was the OT backstory is now the PT. And all I’ve been saying is that any event of that era that could be mentioned in the ST will not be OT backstory anymore. For good or ill, since 2005, all of it is PT-related.”

            Whatever you technically call it, I strongly feel that JJ, Disney and Lucasfilm are making every reasonable effort to distance themselves from the PT. Sure, there will be a number of references that can be found in that trilogy, but I doubt it’ll be anything really controversial.

          • September 9, 2014 at 2:52 pm

            You just need what reference you have in the old trilogy about the clone wars. Forgetting how the prequel trilogy went about the story is for the best.

            …do we really want to mention the fact that Padme died when giving birth while in RotJ Leia said that she remembered her mother being pretty but sad (hard to remember that if mommy died some 5 mins after giving birth to the twins, right?

          • September 2, 2014 at 12:59 am

            Yeah, because “The prequels will be ignored in the Episode VII story” means that they can’t mention Vader.. Yep.. They can ignore the prequels in the episode vii story, whether you like it or not.

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:34 am

            The best of the PT is contained in the OT’s backstory. That, and the possible mention of a few planets.

            So what’s the problem?

        • September 2, 2014 at 12:55 am

          “the prequels have important weight for the whole saga.”

          That’s just a short-sighted statement. Electricity is an important weight for the sage but it doesn’t need to be mentioned in the story.

          “It’s selfish to exclude them just to please the OT fans”

          Like I say. They do not need to mention the prequels. If they bring up things from the OT then that of course makes sense because they have Luke, Leia, and Han, and it’s a direct sequel to the OT. The story expands. It doesn’t have a duty to bring up things from the past. Qui-gon and darth maul weren’t brought up afterwards, the story moved on. Taxation of trades routes wasn’t brought up afterwards, the story moved on. Alderaan wasn’t brought up after it was destroyed, the story moved on. If they don’t want or need to bring things up, they shouldn’t have to. It’s especially interesting for you to claim THEY are being selfish because they aren’t doing something that YOU want when they don’t have to.

          • September 2, 2014 at 1:43 am

            I don’t simply want PT mentions every time in the movie. I just don’t want they ignore the PT to please the haters.

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:07 am

            It’s to please people who want the best possible movie. This is a GOOD THING !!!

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:20 am

            Your point is? PT are great movies, just like OT. Ignoring them or not has nothing to do with how good or not SW VII will be.

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:59 am

            My point is? .. If you cannot see the clear advantage of not re-visiting tainted elements in a film franchise, then I can’t help you.

        • September 2, 2014 at 1:42 am

          Yeah but they sucked

          • September 2, 2014 at 1:54 am

            Wow you have really low standards

          • September 2, 2014 at 3:04 am

            The films are not good, whether you enjoy them or not. “Mental problem”? Potentially offensive and sensitive subject matters don’t make you right. Grow up.

          • September 2, 2014 at 5:25 pm

            In your opinion. Your opinion is not the law.

            They are great in mine.

          • September 2, 2014 at 4:33 am

            Anon 03:04 AM – Ah, yes, the fallacy of trying to call something objectively good or bad. It’s a stupid and shortsighted way of looking at something, and it encourages elitism (which is never good in a fandom). Even if you didn’t like something, that doesn’t make it objectively bad.

          • September 2, 2014 at 11:32 pm

            What makes it objectively bad: plot holes and continuity issues, absurdly poor dialogue and execution of the same by the actors, juvenile poop-joke humor (also contained in the SE OT), over-reliance on CGI to the point that discussions of the urgency of action are made by actors walking down a hall because they can’t run in front of the blue screen in a small-ish studio… and on an on.

            Opinions are just that, opinions. But there is objective evidence that the PT was poorly executed and were a major disappointment to a huge (if not majority) segment of the fan base. And for the record, I do not hate the PT, I was just significantly disappointed by them and GL’s stubborn refusal to release the OT in its original form.

        • September 2, 2014 at 1:44 am

          You’re an Original Trilogist.

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:13 am

            “original trilogist”

            Yeah because having good taste is a bad thing ..

          • September 2, 2014 at 5:32 pm

            To be a fanatic is a bad thing.

            One thing is to enjoy in original movies more than in prequel, and another is to hate everything that is not original trilogy.

            First ones are real fans of SW, the second ones are crazy fanatics.

          • September 2, 2014 at 7:03 pm

            What’s even crazier than that though, are people who can’t stand it when negative criticisms are expressed about something that they enjoy.

            That’s what we see the bulk of in the great OT vs. PT fan squabbles.

            OT fans will criticize the PT, or other Star Wars material.

            PT fans will then foam at the mouth over those criticisms, and then insult the OT fans for making them.

            It’s weirdly intolerant behavior over a science fiction franchise.

          • September 2, 2014 at 11:36 pm

            That makes no sense.
            So anything that has the Star Wars logo slapped on it you must like. Or u are not a “true” fan. What horse shit! Ot fans hate the pt because they were rally bad movies plan and simple.

        • October 16, 2014 at 7:27 pm

          Feck the prequels

      • September 2, 2014 at 1:44 am

        Fans of the PT are not minority. Fans of the SW 1-6 are majority.

        Annoying haters like you are in the minority.

        ignoring any of the films would be stupid move. I’am sure that will never happen. Just wishful thinking of some hater on the forum.

        It is already stated by Disney that all movies are canon.

        • September 2, 2014 at 1:51 am

          God u tp fans are delusional

          • September 2, 2014 at 3:13 am


          • September 2, 2014 at 4:36 am

            Does anyone notice how every time someone brings up a statement to the effect of “the PT have a substantial number of fans”, many dissenters almost always resort to ad hominems instead of actually trying to refute the point?

            Because I certainly have.

          • September 3, 2014 at 12:30 am

            Have you noticed that pt fans try to pretend that an online poll from a fan site is a good indicator of the thoughts and opinions the general population.
            Ok pomojema I’ll refute your claim. On the it has a list of the biggest box offices since 1977 adjusted for inflation anh is #1 empire #5 Jedi#9
            U will notice while there is a drop off with each sequel but it is minor. Now ep 1 is #7 on the list. You know what ep2 ranks? #46 ! And how about ep3? Not on the list. It goes down the #919 and includes such beloved classics as tmnt 2! ( yeah the one with vanilla ice) and bring it on. But ep3. Not even on the list. Please tell me again about how people love these movies.

          • September 3, 2014 at 12:38 am

            Amen, Bono, amen.

          • September 3, 2014 at 12:39 am

            Obviously people rushed out to see ep1 because they loved the ot but were hugely disappointed and didn’t bother too see the sequels.

          • September 3, 2014 at 3:22 am

            Pomo, do you mean like how OT fans are told that they are “just old” and “should go ahead and die”? I know the site ops deleted the latter references in a prior thread, but OT fans are commonly dealt with on this site in such a fashion by the “younger generation” of fans. Don’t act all high and mighty as though the “ad hominem” attacks don’t go both ways…

          • September 3, 2014 at 11:09 pm

            My point was generally because people that like the PT seem to actually defend it before considering into attacking people personally (ad hominem attacks count as flaming, and we don’t want anything to do with that here). Occasionally, I’ve seen people raise counterpoints to a PT fan’s defending of those movies, but by and large a lot of comments about fans of those movies being “delusional” and “immature” pervade the discussion.

            Don’t get me wrong, it’s a two-way street. I just feel like it’s more noticable coming from one side over the other.

          • September 4, 2014 at 2:23 am

            And my personal view of it is that PT lovers tend to get offended and “flame out” when they are just hearing criticism without any judgment or ridicule of the PT fans themselves. They take the legitimate criticism of the movies (not the fans) too personally. That of course ends up drawing criticism of the PT fans in retaliation for their flame war.

            I agree wholeheartedly it is a two way street, but it is not predominantly coming from one side over the other.

          • September 4, 2014 at 7:15 pm

            See above ad hominem attacks by PT lover addressing an OT fan as having “mental problems.” But you just glazed right past that one, Pomo, in your haste to defend a PT lover.

            I rest my case.

        • September 2, 2014 at 1:53 am

          Very Good point, Although I like the OT better I am in no wise against the PT.

    • September 2, 2014 at 1:34 am

      I agree. I love PT and OT. Something like that would make me hate EP VII, and new trilogy.

      • September 2, 2014 at 2:07 am

        It is amazing to me that despite all of the different names you use and your incessant PT praise, you think we can’t tell by your poor grammar that it is in fact the same person who attempts to make it seem as though your views are in the “majority” and “not minority.”

        We can see through you. No matter how many names you use.

        • September 2, 2014 at 2:28 am

          Do not accuse others for something that you do.

        • September 2, 2014 at 3:04 am

          Who are you talking to, “Mr.Anonymous”?

          • September 2, 2014 at 4:14 am

            Well, “Gug” for one… or more than one? See below.

          • September 2, 2014 at 4:17 am

            Well, I don’t need multiple accounts to defend my opinion.

          • September 2, 2014 at 4:25 am

            And I didn’t mention you, did I?

            I have been going by “Mr. Anonymous” for some time now on these boards, despite the suggestion above that I post under several different names…

        • September 2, 2014 at 11:51 pm

          To be clear, it is not routine grammatical mistakes or spelling, it is statements like the following: “Fans of the PT are not minority. Fans of the SW 1-6 are majority.” It is plain as day that it is the same person who uses these kind of phrases, because most people would say “Fans of the PT are not IN THE minority. Fans of the SW 1-6 are IN THE majority.”

          Of course now that I have pointed it out specifically to you, I suppose you will be better equipped to hide your identity behind multiple names clicking the like button on your own comments multiple times.

          (This last point is something I find curious that the site allows you do this, by simply navigating off the page, and then back on in the future, re-enabling your ability to hit the “like” repeatedly. There are spot on comments by some that I wish I could like more than once, and was surprised that the site had that “chink in the armor.”)

          • September 3, 2014 at 1:31 am

            And to be clear, my purpose was not to criticize you for poor spelling or grammar. I make my fair share of mistakes. Rather, my point was that your particular form of writing on the subject (poor use of the words minority or majority, which I do not believe is a typo or mistake – you chose the words specifically and repeatedly) clearly identifies you despite your use of multiple names.

          • September 3, 2014 at 11:06 am

            I have never used the word minority on this site so you have become confused!

          • September 4, 2014 at 2:32 am

            Well perhaps you are not the minority/majority guy, but were coming to his defense. Nonetheless, I think my points are still legitimate…

    • September 2, 2014 at 1:42 am

      The PT is so bad and divisive, Disney would be foolish to go out of their way to please those fans in particular.

      The characters in those movies often do things for illogical or unclear reasons, such as Yoda deciding Obi-Wan can train Anakin AFTER the Jedi Council had concluded it was a bad idea or Nute Gunray’s motivation for risking it all in following Sidious.

      • September 2, 2014 at 1:58 am

        Anyone who thinks it’s good to dwell on those prequels in any way shape or form is deluding themselves.

      • September 2, 2014 at 2:02 am

        Yoda decided that Anakin should be trained, AFTER seeing the miracle that the little former slave was able to pull off when Anakin blew up the droid control ship. That proved to Yoda that Anakin was an exceptionally talented Force-wielder, because that’s about the only way that an 8, 9 yr. old could pull off such a thing. The Force had to be unusually strong with him. Period.

        Now just because Lucas may not have come up with the brightest way to justify Anakin’s status as the “Chosen One” that doesn’t mean Yoda’s choice wasn’t logical.

        Gunray was following Sidious because he was an idiot who didn’t realize what making a deal with a Sith truly meant. Now, how many stories are out there about fools making deals with the devil, when EVERYONE is supposed to know how that will NEVER be a good idea?

        Again, the fact that Lucas was never the best of writers or directors, and that he was not able present his ideas in a much better, clearer way doesn’t mean that they make no sense.

        • September 2, 2014 at 3:11 am

          Rewatch Episode I, Darth Vedder. Yoda didn’t mention anything about Anakin helping out on Naboo. He allowed Obi-Wan to train him, not because it was the wise thing to do, but because he feared Obi-Wan’s stubborn ways, a result of Qui-Gon’s example.

          I’m fine with people or organizations getting in over their heads with the main villain, but why would the Trade Federation risk their freedom, reputation, ships and droids to help out a mysterious Sith character? What are they getting out of this deal?

          • September 2, 2014 at 3:24 am

            Well, Yoda’s reason to change his mind is left to interpretation then, Anon. Because the way I see it, it’s obvious that he had to know of Anakin’s ludicrous deeds during the battle, even if he didn’t mention a thing about it.

            Sometimes, the reader/viewer will not understand the author’s intent in a book/film. That’s why I said that Lucas’s idea was not well-executed, though from my perspective, it would make sense if Yoda had changed his mind about Anakin because of the boy’s potential alone. Especially if you knew that there was a Dark Side menace that could get its hands on the kid, even if not sure if it was a Sith or not.

            Again, since Lucas didn’t explain the deal that Gunray made with Sidious, I can only speculate in this case. My best guess is that he promised the Trade Fed. much more wealth and power if they went along with his plans. Who knows? Maybe Sidious even used mind tricks to get the Neimoidians to get on with his program.

            Again, poor execution by Lucas, hurt even more by the fact that he was trying to make “films for kids”, as opposed to a more mature trilogy, where he could’ve explored all of Palpy’s political machinations much more in-depth, so that stuff like this was clearly explained.

          • September 2, 2014 at 9:58 am

            “Well, Yoda’s reason to change his mind is left to interpretation then, Anon. Because the way I see it, it’s obvious that he had to know of Anakin’s ludicrous deeds during the battle, even if he didn’t mention a thing about it.”

            You’re just making excuses now:

            OBI-WAN : Master Yoda, I gave Qui-Gon my word. I will train Anakin. Without
            the approval of the Council if I must.
            YODA : Qui-Gon’s defiance I sense in you. Need that, you do not. Agree, the
            council does. Your apprentice, young Skywalker will be.

            “…it would make sense if Yoda had changed his mind about Anakin because of the boy’s potential alone.”

            No, it wouldn’t. They already knew the boy had the highest midi-chlorian count among them, and he performed well on his perception tests. But none of that mattered because they sensed bad things in his future. Anakin saving the day doesn’t change the fact that he’s bad news.

            “Especially if you knew that there was a Dark Side menace that could get its hands on the kid, even if not sure if it was a Sith or not.”

            Not only should the council have not allowed him to be trained, they should’ve kept him under close watch to make sure he didn’t cause any trouble. Better yet, they probably should’ve just put him to death to be on the safe side. How often would they feel all weirded out by someone like that and it turned out okay?

            Anyway, we agree that a lot of things weren’t properly explained or executed in the PT. However, any references to the PT era will likely cover things mentioned in the OT as well. “Anakin turned to the dark side.” or “The Empire hunted down the Jedi.”

          • September 2, 2014 at 8:19 pm

            lol, no, I’m not making excuses. If I was, I wouldn’t admit to Lucas’ narration being poorly executed. It was poorly executed indeed. I just don’t think that Lucas’ ideas were that bad, is all.

            Again, there’s a reason why he had Anakin doing the impossible during the Battle of Naboo: the kid was unusually strong with the Force. Ditto for the pod race, of course.

            Lucas just failed to explain if this was the reason why the Jedi Council (not just Yoda) decided to initiate the boy into the Order, or if it was that they discussed it at length offscreen, or what the hell happened that made the 12 most powerful, wise and smart creatures in the galaxy change their minds, and overlook their precepts by agreeing to take Anakin into the fold.

            Since Lucas never explained it clearly on the film, I just assumed that it must’ve been because of Anakin’s wondrous exploits.

            But Jedi putting a child to death? Now THAT would not only be poor story-telling, it’d be TERRIBLE lol! And not because of a Force-sensitive child being killed (we obviously had plenty of that in RotS), but because it would go completely against the Jedi’s nature, philosophy, creed, code, beliefs, etc.

    • September 2, 2014 at 6:55 pm

      I think this is pure nonsense.

      There’s no way Lucas would have allowed the Prequels to be ignored or overwritten in his sale to Disney.

  • September 1, 2014 at 11:16 pm

    So… Is this the big news story ? We know everything that was said. Please tell me there will be more tomorrow…

    • September 2, 2014 at 1:06 am

      This is the first time we’ve heard about Leia’s role in the movie, or that there’s a Cold War, or that the Sith homeworld is part of the story. A lot of what’s been leaked here may have been discussed previously, but new information is tucked into all of this.

      • September 2, 2014 at 3:17 am

        Nope. Heard all of that already.

    • September 2, 2014 at 1:47 am

      Well it’s not as big as the news you gave us. Right?

  • September 1, 2014 at 11:19 pm

    Ha, I see people complaining that this all is old news. Well believe me it isn’t for 80% of the fans. I know it’s been discussed on several message boards but it was never systematize and revealed for the mass public. As I said great job by MagnarTheGreat.

    • September 2, 2014 at 2:11 am

      Just don’t build it up to be something that its not. That’s all.

  • September 1, 2014 at 11:45 pm

    At this rate there’ll be so many rumours around by this time next year that some are bound to be spot on. It’s mind boggling already.

    Max Von Wotsit: “We need a plan to wipe out the remainder of the Rebels.”

    Imperial commander: “we could build a third death star, me Lord.”

    Max Von Wotsit: “You must be f****** joking.”

    • September 2, 2014 at 12:10 am

      because every planet with a desert is Tattooine.

    • September 2, 2014 at 12:14 am

      The argument is that the galaxy’s big enough to have multiple desert planets. I don’t completely agree with the idea that we aren’t seeing Tatooine in those pictures, but I wanted to report the story as it was written.

      • September 2, 2014 at 12:40 am

        True. Actually we’ve already seen another desert planet in SW: Geonosis. Doesn’t matter that the sand was red. It was still a desert planet nonetheless.

        • September 2, 2014 at 12:59 am

          Yesh , but Geonosis was from the PT, which apparently is being dissed by Disney. This “news ” is just sad. Star Wars should be for all fans, not just the vocal, screaming PT haters/ OT worshippers.

          • September 2, 2014 at 1:13 am

            That PT-dissing business is complete bullshit. Disney’s already made it perfectly clear that all SIX films are canon.

            Thus Geonosis is very much a part of the ENTIRE SW Saga (PT haters’ feelings on those 3 films not withstanding), and it is obviously a desert planet, as I said before.

          • September 2, 2014 at 1:41 am

            They are making Vii for tp haters because that includes just about everyone. No matter how vocal or bitter pt fans are about that fact.

          • September 2, 2014 at 1:51 am

            Doesn’t really matter with regards to Pomojema’s and my original point.


            You will find Geonosis there, in the official site’s database, which means that the planet is canon.

            Now as for the ST being made for PT haters, I don’t agree. It might be made with OT lovers in mind, but one thing doesn’t automatically equate to the other. I’m sure PT haters will also hate the ST. You just wait and see.

          • September 2, 2014 at 1:57 am

            Not if they don’t suck like the pt did

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:05 am

            Thanks for illustrating my point so eloquently.

          • September 2, 2014 at 3:19 am

            And there’s the counterpoint.

          • September 3, 2014 at 1:45 am

            How come the comment above that said something along the lines of “No, you suck, you …” essentially disappeared? Is site-ops censorship running rampant again?

            I say, if someone makes a supremely juvenile and asinine comment, preserve it for all to see so everyone can see the caliber of person with whom you are having the “discussion”…

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:31 am

            Trust me, Disney would love to it if the PT had never happened. But they did. They happened. They’re out there and have been for 10+ years. They have NO CHOICE but to say it’s canon. They know it sucks. The last thing they want is for the public to be reminded of them. Why else do you think they scrapped the 3D releases of them? You’re just deluding yourself via your own love of them if you think otherwise.

          • September 2, 2014 at 3:02 am

            Mr.Anonymous you again.

            Just stop. You are such a troll. Prequels have good scores on all major review sites.

            They were huge commercial success. A whole new generation of fans have grown up watching them.

            Of course it is not in the interest of Disney to ignore them.
            They will never do that.

          • September 2, 2014 at 3:15 am

            “They were huge commercial success.”

            Money means quality?

            “A whole new generation of fans have grown up watching them.”

            .. I’m having a brain aneurysm.

            Just because a terrible product made money and even had people like it anyway, it’s still best in the long term of the company to pretend like it never happened. Like I say, Disney are going this route. Are you saying all the insiders are wrong? Why do you think they cancelled the 3D releases of the film? Wake up and smell the coffee. They want to move on and make the world believe in star wars again before they can exploit it.

          • September 2, 2014 at 4:20 am

            For the record, I am not every “Anonymous” on here. But I happen to agree with the points made by this Anon.

          • September 2, 2014 at 4:51 am

            They were planning 3D releases for all six movies, and only stopped the conversion processes because they wanted to focus all efforts on Episode VII. Your statement is invalid.

          • September 2, 2014 at 9:05 pm

            Anonymous September 02, 2014 at 03:15 AM

            The magic words are YOU Do not like them.
            For YOU they are terible.
            Stop acting like that is a fact for everyone else.

            They are faaaaar from terible for me. They are great in my opinion.
            They earned lots of money because people liked them. People will not spend money to watch something they hate 3 times. And even buy something they hate on Blu-ray.

            Even reviews of some prequel movies are better than reviews of some original movies.

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:25 am

            Seriously, Zander, Gug, Helio, Sabalan, Ganza, or whatever it is that you are calling yourself at the moment, give it a rest. We know it is just one person repeating this crap over and over. your poor grammar has a particular pattern so it is easy to recognize you.

            And, your beloved IMDB poll proves absolutely nothing other than there is a vocal minority of 10 or 20 thousand PT fans, out of the millions of Star Wars fans generally, that can take a voluntary poll.

            Please just stop.

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:37 am

            Mr. Anonymous, just so you know, you’re not going mad. You’re clearly the one in the right. Don’t let this idiot get to you lol

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:53 am

            Seriously Blue Wing, or whatever you call now. Just stop it.

            All you haters are 1-2 persons at most.

            Stop attacking everyone who loves prequels or all six films.

            You are annoying.

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:57 am

            Actually IMDB polls show that you are a vocal minority.

            You have a proof, black on white. That there is waay more people who love these movies, than the ones who hate them.

            And that is a fact.

          • September 2, 2014 at 4:31 am

            You must think it pretty effective to use someone else’s argument against them? You couldn’t be more wrong… Done with you (and all of you multiple personalities).

          • September 2, 2014 at 4:47 am

            I’ve checked their IPs; some match, but many don’t (I can confirm Sabalan is a separate person from Gug). Trying to pretend that your opponents are all sockpuppet accounts of a single person is a really shallow way of thinking. As is the idea that the opinions of a select group don’t matter because they’re not near the majority – straw polling would be hideously ineffective if most of the populace had to be asked about the approval of a politician in order for an official consensus to be formed.

          • September 2, 2014 at 7:25 pm

            IP tracing and banning was more useful in the 90s and early 2000s, when people generally had access to only one computer.

            But today, with the explosion of mobile devices and cheap laptops, it doesn’t have as much use. Particularly when you can go to any school’s computer lab and hop from one computer to another in a room filled with 100 desktops.

            Additionally, the advent of proxy servers and the TOR browser have rendered IP tracing useless, and IP banning equally as effective as not bothering to ban at all.

          • September 3, 2014 at 12:35 am

            Pomo, I think your comments about “straw polls are quite telling. Online polls or straw polls are inherently unreliable for exactly the point I make, namely that they are voluntary and answered more so by people who have a particular interest in the subject matter. Meaning, if you liked a particular movie, you are more likely than someone who did not like it to seek out such a voluntary poll and provide a positive response.

            Granted Wikipedia is a limited research tool, but here is how it defines a “straw poll”: “A straw poll or straw vote is a vote with nonbinding results. Straw polls provide dialogue among movements within large groups. In meetings subject to rules of order, impromptu straw polls often are taken to see if there is enough support for an idea to devote more meeting time to it, and (when not a secret ballot) for the attendees to see who is on which side of a question. However, Robert’s Rules of Order prohibits straw polls, calling them ‘meaningless and dilatory’ because they subvert the deliberative charge of deliberative bodies. Among political bodies, straw polls often are scheduled for events at which many people interested in the polling question can be expected to vote. Sometimes polls conducted without ordinary voting controls in place (i.e., on an honor system, such as in online polls) are also called ‘straw polls’.”

            In my earlier comment, I almost suggested that a moderator look up the IP’s to see whether there are multiple persons or just a single one replying on this topic, and I am actually glad to hear there is more than one. Having said that, there is a particular poster, who has admitted above that he posts under multiple names, who uses a particular writing construct (and refers to the IMDB poll) repeatedly on this subject under different names to give off the appearance of more support for the position than there is. your IP checking has only confirmed this.

        • September 2, 2014 at 1:32 am

          And Abafar, from the 5th season of The Clone Wars.

  • September 2, 2014 at 12:04 am

    “The prequels will be ignored in the Episode VII story for a “fact” (May 8, 2014)”

    Regardless of people’s feelings on the PT, you can’t ignore the PT, because everything that happened in the Prequels is directly related to EVERYTHING that happened afterwards, period.

    Perhaps the rumor implies that there will be no DIRECT mention of events that were seen in the PT, but to claim that the PT will be ignored outright doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.

    • September 2, 2014 at 1:04 am


      Other than Coruscant, perhaps, I don’t think we’ll be seeing many of the design concepts, worlds, races, etc. that were exclusive to the prequels. And Coruscant only because of the planet-city’s importance, of course.

      I was also referring to potential references to stuff like Vader’s fall, the Jedi Purge, the rise of the Empire, etc., even if it’s just limited to offhand comments and such. I just can’t see how this can be completely ignored, when it was such an integral part in the history of the galaxy.

      • September 2, 2014 at 2:43 am

        Betcha JJ blows up Coruscant in order to put the focus back on the frontier. 😛

        • September 2, 2014 at 5:45 pm

          I would like to at least have a mention of Courasaunt then nothing at all. If someone says that the reason the Republic capital is now “planet X” and not Courasaunt i would be fine with that because at least they explained why is not Courasaunt. But to say that the Republic’s capital planet is “Planet X” and has always been “Planet X” is just wrong to me.

          And as a fan of Eps. I-VI the worst thing JJ and Co. can do is ignore the PT for the sake of ignoring them. The PT may or may not be good films but the designs and worlds are not what made them bad. The write and story are (though i grow up with them so…)

  • September 2, 2014 at 12:13 am

    I have a feeling that most of the Sith stuff is only true in the context of the script, being there to help inform the characters actions and behaviour rather than lore.

    I dont think… that most of this is true. But I think that the people “leaking” it think its true.

    And Ithinksome of these things are misinterpretations on their part of what they are seeing or reading… possibly colored by previous “leaks”

    There may be confirmation that luke is missing, but they dont know how long it is… perhaps taking the “he is missing” bit to be confirmation of previous “missing for thirty years” rumors.

  • September 2, 2014 at 12:34 am

    This article was quite long but there was absolutely nothing new to bring to the table, except the whole “prequels being ignored” bit which I find insulting.

  • September 2, 2014 at 12:39 am

    Wouldn’t know why Disney would specifically target the Sith’s origin, who were exiled dark jedi hailed as gods by the original Sith (and Massassi) race after the hundred year darkness, who they interbred with afterwards.

    There’s a lot of history, related conflicts and Sith lords who’m i’d rather see staying in the lore. It made a lot of sense and it was carefully built from the ground up… Wouldn’t see it interfere with “current day” stories either.

    Imagining Korriban/Moraband (assuming it’s still the Sith homeworld) as a giant weapon kinda makes it lose it’s mystique. Up to now it was the burial site of ancient Sith, haunted, and a place of corruption. I could only somehow think of Korriban as a weapon if it wasn’t in the traditional sense of it shooting a giant laser and that’s that. It would have to be pretty damn unorthodox and original.

    Juans’ art is lookin’ pretty sweet though, on a final note.

  • September 2, 2014 at 12:48 am

    I’d like to see some new planets, though.
    I guess they may invent some, but they might also add planets that are currently part of SW Legends to the canon. Tython?

  • September 2, 2014 at 12:48 am

    Disney loves delving into the past and doing things differently… And yet they find it ok to diss prequel fans. (yes, there are more than just a few of us.)

  • September 2, 2014 at 12:52 am

    All very interesting, but obviously undependable because rumours are vicious circles sometimes ending up as near gospel.
    Having said that, some make more sense than others.
    Boyega being Lando’s son and thus pilot of the falcon, Luke gone AWOL, becoming a recluse and Driver being the apprentice of the Emperor’s student sound plausible.
    But a planet type ‘bomb’ sounds absurd.
    And Daisy may not be the main ‘female’ lead – only recently extending her contract for VIII and IX doesn’t fit in with what Disney has said about having the next 10 years all ‘mapped out’. She may not even be Han/Leia’s daughter because if Han and Leia split, then either Han or Leia could have had a child in another relationship.
    And I still wouldn’t entirely rule out Sith witches being involved.

  • September 2, 2014 at 1:05 am

    Someone please help me! I keep saying everyday I am going to avoid all Episode 7 spoilers, but I don’t have the willpower to avoid stuff like this. What should I do?

    • September 2, 2014 at 1:12 am

      Move to Skellig Michael for the next 15 months!

    • September 4, 2014 at 10:52 am

      You will be fine because if things keep going the way they are we will not know the plot.

  • September 2, 2014 at 1:08 am

    You know Disney, Han and Leia are probably going to die off screen. Can’t have living parents can we Disney?

  • September 2, 2014 at 1:27 am

    I’m going to need one of the people who are offended by the “ignoring the PT” statement to tell me what sort of references they would expect to in a film that takes place 55 years after the end of the Clone Wars.

    Some of you are acting like they’ve decanonized it.

    • September 2, 2014 at 1:32 am

      Yeah, i don’t really see why they should get mad about it. They already got four movies and a two tv shows a bunch of video games & books out of the prequels. I think its time to move on.

    • September 2, 2014 at 1:54 am

      They can mention some important events and people from that era.

      Leia or Luke can mention Padme and Anakin. Mace Windu.

      Things like that will satisfy all the fans. And connect both existing trilogies with a new one.

      In my opinion it is really important and crucial to mention some events from that era, as an important part of the saga story.

      • September 2, 2014 at 2:33 am

        But that’s just it. Your opinion. I’m sure a bunny rabbit will please people. Jar Jar pleased people. But sorry, it’s still not a good idea for the greater good of the film.

      • September 2, 2014 at 3:26 am

        Wow, PT fans. Already looking for validation from the other trilogies.

      • September 2, 2014 at 4:04 am

        What did Mace do that was important in the movies other than get his hand cut off by a sith , die and kill some bounty hunter?

      • September 2, 2014 at 7:37 pm

        I’m primarily an OT fan, but I would like to see some congruence with the PT.

        There’s no reason why we can’t see some alien races that were introduced in the PT for instance.

        I don’t think that characters need to make reference to specific characters, but I do think that making reference to some historical events or figures of historical significance might be in order.

        I would like to see Ewan McGregor’s young Obi-Wan as a hologram, perhaqps as some sort of holographic Jedi tutorial that was once kept in the great library.

        I would be interested in seeing Darth Maul, Palpatine, Greivous, and/or Dooku as Force ghosts. We’eve never seen Sith Force ghosts before.

        I wouldn’t mind revisiting Kasyyk, which was introduced in the PT. Well, technically it was introduced int he Holiday Special, but you know what I mean.

        I wouldn’t mind a return to Coruscant for relevant story needs.

        I wouldn’t mind seeing perhaps an old Naboo starfighter, suped up in the same way that kids buy old cars today and supe them up and restore them.

        There’s lots of cool stuff they could include without having it directly influence the plot of the Sequel Trilogy.

        • September 2, 2014 at 7:57 pm

          Again, I think people are taking that statement (which is a very vague one and a rumor at that) far too seriously.

          If there are alien races and or planets that were in either trilogy, they will be used if it fits.

          Do you think that if there were a discussion about the Galactic Capitol that they won’t call it Coruscant? Or maybe they discuss “the planet where Lukes mother and the emperor came from.”

          You guys are being silly.

    • September 2, 2014 at 2:31 am

      So by your logic people should’ve stopped talking about WW II a few years ago, right?

      Yeah, that makes all the sense in the world.

      • September 2, 2014 at 2:40 am

        How often does World War 2 come up in everyday conversation? ^_-

        • September 2, 2014 at 2:59 am

          That depends. If your family was directly affected by the conflict, it does pop out in conversations often, believe me. And that’s just talking about ordinary folk.

          Now, if you were Hitler or Mussolini’s children (or grandchildren, in this case, if rumors have it true), I would assume that the subject would pop out MUCH more often.

  • September 2, 2014 at 1:30 am

    I’m not buying any of this as it is all too easy to make up from what is already known or bantered about. I do hope this is Bad Robot having fun at fans’ expense and that there really is more creativity then this going on.

    • September 2, 2014 at 1:43 am

      Yeah, the Han Solo thing is something that has been around since ROTJ and hinted at quite a lot, though (I’ve also been telling people that would happen, hoping that they will one day worship me as their “seer of the future”! Or something like that..)
      The Sith homeworld idea has been around for a while as well. Ever since it was renamed to Moraband and showed up in The Clone Wars.

  • September 2, 2014 at 1:32 am

    “The prequels will be ignored in the Episode VII story for a “fact” (May 8, 2014)”

    I really hope this is not true. Or EP VII will be ignored by me….

      • September 2, 2014 at 1:37 am

        Because I love all 6 SW movies.

        If any of them is ignored in SW VII. I will lose all my interest in that movie. I will ignore that movie.

        • September 2, 2014 at 1:45 am

          Nothing will be ignored. I believe episode 7 will be a great adventure that not only brings back the force feeling, but will tie in all 6 episodes together finally explaining why things happen the way they did to lead up to the ultimate finish.To put it simple, it is learned that Anakin was not the chosen one, but a false hope. The twins were the force of balance, and the new triology will have the chosen one. Sith planet plus chosen one equals the end of the sith. Just like the prophecy alwasy had said.

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:26 am

            Anon @ 01:45 AM:

            I don’t think it’s going to end with IX. And I believe Anakin’s story ends with VI. I hope and expect VII to be the start of a brand new saga involving the Skywalker family and others.

        • September 2, 2014 at 2:21 am


          You really expect them to keep referencing all the previous films in the new installments?

          Why do people like you always feel that the ST has to keep tying into all the others? Is it not enough that they all take place in the same galaxy with many characters crossing over into the next trilogy?

    • September 2, 2014 at 2:00 am

      What a terrible loss to Disney

      • September 2, 2014 at 2:03 am

        Any loss is a terrible loss.

  • September 2, 2014 at 1:43 am

    “You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.”

    Is there a reason why I periodically get this message? It pops up randomly, like during my first post in several hours.

      • September 2, 2014 at 2:17 am

        I wish I envied you. 🙁

    • September 2, 2014 at 2:32 am

      It’a the connection to this site temporarily failing for some reason.

  • September 2, 2014 at 1:50 am

    I would defend all of the PT fans about Disney possibly ignoring the PT films, but where were you guys when Lucas was ignoring the OOT movies? I remember when Lucas wouldn’t release the OOT, all of you guys would defend him and say he has a right to do whatever he wants. Then you would defend every SE change without releasing the OOT which would be more of a slap in the face to the OOT fans. So I would love to defend you guys, but if Disney is ignoring the PT now I would say what you said to us for the past 15 years, “They have a right to do whatever they want with the movies!” I love the Irony!

    • September 2, 2014 at 1:57 am

      He never ignored anything from OT. PT story flows great to OT. Great transition from shiny republic story into a dark empire story.

      • September 2, 2014 at 2:22 am

        The PT story flow great with the OT? I guess when Leia said to Luke in ROTJ that her mom died when she was very young, and then she dies at childbirth in ROTS? Yeah that flows great!

        Or Uncle Owen doesn’t recognize C3PO in ANH, yet when the PT comes out he owns C3PO from Episode 1 to Episode 2? And you can’t miss C3PO since he is the only English Speaking Butler in the galaxy!

        Should I go on….

        • September 2, 2014 at 2:40 am

          C3PO is only one droid that looks the same like the rest of the same model.

          We already saw other droids in movies that look the same as C3PO.

          For Owen C3PO was just another droid of the same model as the one he once had.

          As for Leia. She is strong in force. Maybe she remembers the events of her birth. Or maybe adoptive parents showed her holo-images of Padme in childhood.

          You only have this 2 things.

          Fact is, prequel movies are well connected with original movies.

          You will find more inconsistencies between the original trilogy movies, than betwen prequels and originals.

        • September 2, 2014 at 10:57 am

          Yes. Go on. There is so much more. How about the fact that Ben didn’t recognize the droids either. Dispite having been with them regularly for years. Calling them by name. How about how Ben said when he met anikin he was already a great pilot. And then it turns out he met Annie when he was like 6. So the they crammed some outrageous nonsense about him being a child slave forced to race in deadly pod races. Which the Jedi exploit for there own ends before leaving Annie’s mother to die a slave. How about how the prequels make force power a measurable quality in the form of meteclorians. Which means that when yoda said things like “do or do not, there is no try” and “that is why you fail” he was speaking complete nonsense. Because was theoretically possible that luke didn’t have enough meteclorians to pull the Xwing from the swamp. The pt will be ignored because they are garbage.

          • September 2, 2014 at 4:38 pm

            Perhaps Leia is referring to her adopted mother. .

          • September 2, 2014 at 5:45 pm

            Again you are talking nonsense.

            Nothing you said is contradictory to anything in the original trilogy.

            Anakin was great pilot when Obi-wan first met him. He was competitor in the pod race.

            Obi-Wan did recognized R2D2.

            Number of midichlorian is only different word for force sensitivity.

            People who have enough of them are force sensitive. In original trilogy it is already known that only force sensitive people can use force. An some are more stronger than other ( force is strong in you ).

            So how is any of that contradictory?

            Stop being such hater. Get out of the parents basement. Find yourself an apartment and life.
            Stop being Such fanatic.

          • September 3, 2014 at 2:19 am

            OBI WAN: “I don’t remember owning any droids.”

          • September 3, 2014 at 1:16 pm

            You delusional pt fans are pathetic. You want to pretend that ot is loved by a small group of fanatics. When in fact the ot was and is a worldwide phanomanon loved for generations. By mainstream audiences. It is fanboys like yourself who bitterly “hate” the maistream because they don’t share your love for your stupid pt

          • September 3, 2014 at 8:27 pm

            I don’t seem to recall ever owning a droid was a caigy way of dodging the subject, ANH was all about avoiding the full truth about Vader being his father. Ben was twisting words without giving up the truth.
            Jedi’s don’t technical own driods just because the utilize them. A lightsaber would be an extension of them so they may say your lightsabers. But to Obi Wan the Droid is usually part of the Ship.

          • September 4, 2014 at 2:56 am

            But that’s just it, dodging the subject is what trying to pigeonhole PT concepts into the OT is all about. GL admittedly kind of made up the details of the PT as he went along. Sure he had broad stroke ideas about what the PT was going to be about, but he did a poor job of maintaining continuity with the OT and overlooked significant details like Uncle Owen’s and Obi-Wan’s familiarity with the droids and Leia’s references to her mother. There are countless others. We can all try to justify the PT’s lack of continuity by dreaming up some vagueness or ambiguity, but in the end all of it is just too clumsy.

        • September 2, 2014 at 10:27 pm

          The Leia one is the worst one around. Obviously everyone forgets that Bail Organa had a wife (remember, they always wanted a little girl).

          It can easily be explained that Leia is remembering Mrs. Organa and not Padme. In fact, it’s really the only logical conclusion.

          • September 3, 2014 at 4:09 am

            Anything to suggest that Bail Organa’s wife, Leia’s adopted mother, passed away when she was young? To suggest that she was having memories of Bail Organa’s wife as her adoptive mother during that dialogue is nothing but unsupported speculation. The clear and unmistakable indication from the dialogue, contemporaneous to when it was uttered, was that Leia was speaking of her biological mother.

  • September 2, 2014 at 1:52 am

    I suspect that maybe half of those rumors turn out to be true at most.

    • September 2, 2014 at 2:02 am

      They are relevant to the story. Because story starts with them.

      Empire begins in them. Jedi were exterminated in them.
      Everything what is important story wise begins in them.

      Mother and Father of main protagonist are in them.

      • September 2, 2014 at 2:09 am

        “They are relevant to the story.”

        Oh. I didn’t know you read the epvii script.

      • September 2, 2014 at 2:12 am

        I don’t think the prequels are narratively relevant anymore. It had it’s beginning and ending for those characters and their story is over. Its time for a new beginning.

        • September 2, 2014 at 2:16 am

          Thing is, SW VII is not start of the story. It is continuation of existing story. It is seventh movie in that story. It is a sequel.

          Big difference.

          • September 2, 2014 at 2:46 am

            I do not need to read the script to know that SW VII is a sequel, and continuation of the same story. Saga story.

            It is not separate, standalone movie. It is part of Saga.

          • September 2, 2014 at 3:42 am

            Anakin Skywalker is dead. The saga telling his rise, fall and redemption is over. I believe this movie is called Episode VII because it continues the stories of the original and new cast, not because it feels some obligation to dig up and kick around Anakin’s story some more.

            While they all connect on the same timeline, I definitely feel it’s time for a brand new saga.

          • September 2, 2014 at 5:14 am

            Anakins story was told and done with. The saga was about the rise and fall of the false prophet. The dark child that would become Darth Vader. The child of light is in the new trilogy. New story, new trilogy.

          • September 2, 2014 at 5:41 pm

            “false prophet”

            “dark child”

            “light child”


  • September 2, 2014 at 2:35 am

    Before the ST was made, the PT were essentially part 1,2,3 of a 6 story character of arc of the chosen one called Anakin Skywalker.

    NOW that the ST is being made, that contradicts that whole story, as he isn’t the chosen one, so the PT has to be looked at in a different way now. I look at the PT as more of a macro story about the downfall of the republic now which leads right into the rebellion in Episode 4. For of all of the Anakin 1-6 Saga fans, the ST puts an end to the story and it is meaningless no matter how much you want to cling onto it.

    There will probably be a new Sith Villain and probably be a new Chosen One Protagonist. So the true arc is the macro story of the Republic now, which is told through 3 generations of Skywalkers.

    • September 2, 2014 at 2:39 am

      No, it doesn’t contradict anything. Anakin was said to bring balance back to the Force. That doesn’t mean something could’ve happened to imbalance the Force again, 30 some yrs. after his death.

      Not once was it mentioned in Eps. I through III that the Force would remain forever balanced after the “Chosen One” fulfilled his destiny.

      • September 2, 2014 at 3:47 am

        “Not once was it mentioned in Eps. I through III that the Force would remain forever balanced after the “Chosen One” fulfilled his destiny.”

        You do realize this was all part of Lucas wrapping up his saga in 6 movies, right? Now the story continues.

        Whether the new villains technically call themselves “Sith” or not, expect at least some of them to be Force sensitive. Kick that “Chosen One” crap to the curb. It wasn’t mentioned in the OT, was poorly explained in the PT, and the Jedi Council kept expressing uncertainty over Anakin being it.

        • September 2, 2014 at 3:59 am

          “You do realize this was all part of Lucas wrapping up his saga in 6 movies, right? Now the story continues.”

          This is precisely why I said that the whole “Chosen One brings balance to the Force” part doesn’t necessarily have to be a permanent thing. You do realize that I did say that in my previous comment, right?

          As for “Kicking this or that to the curb”, speak for yourself. I could certainly think of countless other things that bother me more about SW than this “Chosen One” prophecy…yes, even in the OT.

          • September 2, 2014 at 4:30 am

            While I see where you’re going with this, having the prophecy be a temporary solution is also pointless. You might as well not have it at all and just let the good guys eventually win on their own.

            WISE SAGE: “You are the main good guy right now. Therefore, you will one day defeat the main bad guy, who may or may not be your father. It is your destiny….”

            PROHTAHGONIST: “Why are you here, again?”

          • September 2, 2014 at 7:57 pm

            No, you don’t see where I’m going with this, because I’ve already made my point: the fact that Anakin brought balance back to the Force doesn’t mean that it can’t go out of balance again.

            Also, the prophecy’s not pointless. Obviously, Lucas came up with it as a way to wrap up the Saga in 6 films when he made the PT. But the prophecy said that the Chosen One would bring balance “BACK” to the Force, meaning that the Force was balanced once. Something brought it out of balance (the Sith, obviously) and that means that another disruptive force can bring it out of balance at any given time, thus opening the door for the ST.

            Now that’s good, consistent story-telling, even if it doesn’t sit in well with folk who hated everything about the PT.

      • September 2, 2014 at 11:15 pm

        I thought the sith was done of what Anakin/Vader( chosen one )did. Now if more sith are still around, and we are going to see the sith planet, how is Anakin ” the chosen one ” ?
        ” this child will destroy the sith and bring balance to the force ”

        If sith in episode 7, that means the sith are not destroyed doez it Diagnol Lines 20:13

    • September 2, 2014 at 2:39 am

      Anakin is still the chosen one for all we know. “bringing balance back to the force” was never properly explained in the films. If people are always able to turn to the dark side, then there is no such thing as “bringing balance back to the force”. We don’t know. It was never explained fully in the films. All we know, is that Anakin was the chosen one and he brought “balance back to the force”. The story proved this with him killing palpatine. Now with episode vii on the horizon, the only thing we can asume is that it’s possible to become unbalanced and balanced numerous times, with new “chosen ones” and new prophecies. But who knows? Not me. And not you.

      • September 2, 2014 at 3:53 am

        Palpatine was killed way too stupidly for it to be some prophecy. Was he even aware that his apprentice was “The Chosen One”?

        If Sidious created Anakin using the Force, why did he leave him a slave on Tatooine? Why not just train him like Maul?

        Why would the Republic and Jedi Order use a bunch of clones they never authorized who were created from the very person who tried to assassinate Padme?

        Does that not sound brainless to anyone else?

      • September 2, 2014 at 2:56 am

        Oh I agree. I hate the idea. I’m just saying that that’s something they could do so it’s pointless to claim that it will or will not happen, because we don’t know yet. But yeah I hate all the prophecy/chosen one rubbish. But that’s another rant altogether

      • September 2, 2014 at 3:07 am

        You sure about that? Because as it were, this “Chosen One” stuff only happens to be at the core of EVERY single epic story in the history of the world, the Bible included.

        Now, Lucas maybe failed in his delivery on the Chosen One tale. But just go ask Potter fans, or Matrix fans, or LotR fans if they think that this archetype being central to the tale is poor story-telling.

        • September 2, 2014 at 3:38 am

          “At the core of EVERY single epic story in the history of the world, the Bible included.” That’s why we need to stop using it.

          • September 2, 2014 at 3:48 am

            IDK about that, but since Lucas has already used it in the PT, the Chosen One’s part of SW lore forever now.

          • September 2, 2014 at 4:01 am

            Yeah, but it can still be ignored in the new films. Just like how the PT ignored the fact that this whole important “Chosen One” storyline was never once mentioned in the OT.

            Or did the OT just choose to ignore the PT’s nonsense, too?

          • September 2, 2014 at 5:17 pm

            Chosen one concept does not contradicts in any way with original films. So prequels did not ignored anything.

            They just give us new informations and facts.

          • September 2, 2014 at 6:10 pm

            Something as important to the entire saga as Anakin being the Chosen One would’ve been brought up to Luke during the OT. Yoda and/or Ben would’ve mentioned it to Luke, and Luke would’ve brought it up to Vader when they met again in VI.

            Lucas just made this part up for the PT after the fact.

          • September 2, 2014 at 7:44 pm

            Yeah, it could be ignored in the ST…or it could be mentioned a gazillion times. Either way, I couldn’t care less. As long as the ST is good, then I don’t care about anything else. I’m certainly not gonna let a few things that I dislike dampen the enjoyment that SW has given me since 1977.

            My point was that the archetype of the Chosen One is a fixture in epic fantasy/fiction, according to Joseph Campbell’s Hero’s Quest theory. And that’s something that Lucas knows inside & out, since he worked closely with Campbell himself, and he fashioned SW (as in the OT, actually) after Campbell’s theory.

            I also couldn’t care less if it’s a good idea or not. The fact remains that it is at the core of SW lore now, and has always been. The only thing that changed with the PT was that before ’99 we all thought that Luke was the One, not his father. Other than that, there’s always been a Chosen One in SW.

          • September 2, 2014 at 3:23 pm

            I hate the bible with a passion. The more biblical references in SW, the worse it seems to get. What’s wrong with a desert farmboy, a feisty princess and a scoundrel having fun adventures in a galaxy far far away?

        • September 2, 2014 at 6:10 am

          The Bible is a epic TRUE story, I have found that no matter how many times scientists, scholars and archeologists try to find PROOF that it’s a fairy tale, sooner or later THEY are the ones proven wrong.

          • September 3, 2014 at 10:25 pm

            Why do I get the feeling this isn’t your original thought?

      • September 2, 2014 at 5:09 am

        It’s only bad story writing if the writers are bad.

    • September 2, 2014 at 3:05 am

      Ditch the whole “Chosen One” nonsense and just give us a brand new saga connecting the old characters from VI with the new ones.

  • September 2, 2014 at 2:51 am

    Anakin/Darth Vader brought “balance” to the force 1-6. Ok good job whatever, time for no more “chosen one prophecy” stuff. Just good , bad & grey.

  • September 2, 2014 at 4:25 am

    I thoroughly enjoyed both the original trilogy and the prequel trilogy. Yes the prequels had their flaws in some cases but we can’t ignore the fact that the original trilogy had their own fair share of flaws and faults too. I personally am looking forward to the sequel trilogy and am curious what new and innovative things and ideas JJ Abrams can add to the Star Wars universe. I wouldn’t categ

  • September 2, 2014 at 4:28 am

    I thoroughly enjoyed both the original trilogy and the prequel trilogy. Yes the prequels had their flaws in some cases but we can’t ignore the fact that the original trilogy had their own fair share of flaws and faults too. I personally am looking forward to the sequel trilogy and am curious what new and innovative things and ideas JJ Abrams can add to the Star Wars universe. I wouldn’t categorise myself as a PT fan or a OT fan, I’m merely a Star Wars fan and enjoy all that the films and their respective universe have to offer and the stories that are told within it.

  • September 2, 2014 at 5:11 am

    Wow! browsing at these comments, This looks like a hot debate had erupted. Glad I missed it! Reading other peoples debates amuse me, even if I don’t agree with there opinions Let us all put this to rest tonight so you all can live to debate another day.

  • September 2, 2014 at 5:33 am


    1. A dark lord Sith named Darth Plagueis was known to create life. Dark magic = dark child

    2. Anakin was not born during a time of great despair. ( as said in the Jedi prophecy ) Anakin was already an adult.

    3. a child of light will not turn to the dark side and kill children in a temple.

    4. a dark child will kill children and anyone in any rage.

    5. Anakin, the dark child, at theight of his rage, becomes Darth Vader.

    6. Luke and Leia were born during the birth of the new Galactic Empire.

    7. Leai never became a Jedi.
    8. Luke never destroyed the sith.
    9. Darth Vader didnt kill Sidious to save the Galaxy, or help others, he did it to save his son. ( Redemption )
    10. What did the Jedi prophecy say ?

    ” during a time of great despair, a child of light created by the mediclorians, would destroy the sith, and bring balance back to the force. ”

    Anakin was not born in time of despair. And neither was Luke.
    Episode 7 will take place 30 years after Ep. 6 ) During three decades, during these times of war, during this time of despair, the chosen one was born. 30 years later is the current Episode 7 time frame. This child will be the age between 18-27….

    • September 2, 2014 at 11:52 am

      Facts we know so far?
      Child if light and child of darkness?
      No offense but what he hell are you talking about.?
      Is this Star Wars you are talking about or your own creation?

  • September 2, 2014 at 5:36 am

    It’s ok Duke, I was just having fun! Goodnight.

  • September 2, 2014 at 8:27 am

    Good roundup article of the various rumors floating about. As far as all of the back and forth about the prequel trilogy being ignored, I’m guessing that the original comment had more to do about the prequel’s tone being ignored, in favor of the original trilogy’s mixture of humor, action, drama and fun. Almost everything JJ has said reflects that he’s going for the flavor of the OT. Still enjoyed the article!,

  • September 2, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    How many thousands of people would live and work on a Star Destroyer?

  • September 2, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    Good morning SW fans this is Sabalan. I have a question What time Zone is this site on. I am on Central time and I can’t figure out the times on these comments. My last Comment was not even close to 5 AM

    • September 2, 2014 at 3:48 pm

      What about the comment you just posted is it also with a different local time from yours?

      • September 2, 2014 at 6:37 pm


  • September 2, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    (If I might shift discussion away from the PT vs. OT argument for a moment or three…)

    It finally occurred to me why the “severed lightsaber hand floating in space” thing doesn’t work for me as an opening shot to this particular Star Wars movie.

    It makes for far too quiet and static an initial scene for the first chapter in a Star Wars trilogy.

    The original movie back in 1977 immediately captured audiences attention with that amazing opening shot, but what was even more important about it was that it began the story “in media res”, as they say – in the midst of the action. No exposition, no gradual ramping up to the action, just WHAMMO!!

    The floating hand thing sounds far more suited to the second film in a SW trilogy, like ESB’s opening scene – quiet, ominous music, tiny probe pods fanning out from that Star Destroyer… that’s more what this rumored Episode 7 opening sounds like.

    I’m really hoping that it’s just that – a rumor. IMHO, Episode 7 needs to leap out of the starting gate with something dynamic and exciting. Leave the quiet, spooky opening for Episode 8.

    • September 3, 2014 at 2:41 pm

      Once you have seen it (assuming we’ll get an “opening hand” for EpVII) you’ll get used to it. Star Wars NEEDS more diverse ideas, not just sticking to the same tired old frame.

      • September 3, 2014 at 8:45 pm

        So should -A long time ago in a galaxy far far away…. Be changed for new flavor?
        The hand metioned in the rumours will be in the new film…attached to Luke’s arm.

  • September 2, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    Dunno if it’s a spoiler or what, so I’ll try to be as vague as possible. That Han Solo thing underneath the X-Wing thing… yeah, that would be stupid to be brutally honest.

    The guy’s whole MO is that he is lucky. To see the sad ol’ adage “everyone’s luck runs out eventually” be displayed for him… uh-uh. That concept is so tired, and played out. It’s depressing just for the sake of being depressing 9 times out of 10.

    It goes from and they live happily ever after in ROTJ to Han dying in the arms of a sobbing wookie, or princess? Han saying a few inspirational last words and/or reconciling with said princess, and then going out in a blaze of glory in the Millennium Falcon? Maybe ’tis just me, but I would like to think that people didn’t wait 30+ years to see an iconic fan-favorite pull off an Oscar (cringe) worthy rendition of Jim Carrey’s death scene in The Mask…

    “Hold me closer, Ed, it’s getting dark… [coughs] Tell Auntie Em to let Old Yeller out… [coughs]…tell Tiny Tim I won’t be coming home this Christmas… [coughs]…tell Scarlett I do give a damn!”

    This reminds me of the time the EU killed off Chewie, and one of the explanations was that it was difficult to write dialogue for a Wookie, only in this case in making room for a new generation of characters the writers are having trouble finding a way to not include Han, and must therefore kill him.

    *Sigh* SMH. Well, if true, I guess ’twas to be expected, though. After all, the universe ain’t big enough for the handful of characters from the OT, and the dozen new ones in the ST. That kind of packed cosmos would take a Lucasfilm Story Group to keep track of… if only they were to hire one.

  • September 2, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    People just chill.

    Disney will never ignore any of the 6 films.

    I’am sure 99% of all this speculations are false.

    All 6 movies are cash cow. Disney is not stupid. More movies, means more money for them.

  • September 2, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    All this prequel bashing haters are actually one person who is posting under different names.

    Ignore the troll

    • September 2, 2014 at 6:49 pm

      Just read all the comments. One person is posting under various pseudonyms. And his every post has the same style of prequel bashing.

      That is trolling.

      It is annoyingly disgusting.

      • September 3, 2014 at 12:04 am

        You pt fans need professional help. Seriously you not only delusional but also paranoid

      • September 3, 2014 at 3:43 am

        Well, just as he did to confirm a PT sympathizer was posting under multiple names above, I’m sure our esteemed site op Pomojema could just look at the IP addresses to confirm that there is not just “one or two PT haters” posting around here…

        • September 4, 2014 at 7:43 pm

          But Pomo the PT advocate isn’t going to do that, is he?

    • September 3, 2014 at 1:13 am

      This is the point that escapes the PT lovers too often: They mistake criticism as hate. As others have said time and again, everyone who loved the OT wanted to love the PT, too. We were disappointed in their execution.

  • September 2, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    Disney will destroy Star wars…

  • September 2, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    So does anyone think we may still get to see Mara Jade? I know they bought the red hair of some young actress, and she even said it was for episode 7.

    I guess Daisy’s character (Jaina?) will be flying around in her Dad’s old ship-the Falcon, with Lando Jr?

    • September 2, 2014 at 6:49 pm

      I believe the red wig was re-used by the same actress (Karen Gillan) who had it all cut off for Guardians of the Galaxy and then required the wig for her final appearance in Doctor Who’s ‘Time of the Doctor’ episode.

      • September 3, 2014 at 6:01 pm

        You’re addressing the wrong person – my post only concerned the red wig.

  • September 2, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    when I saw this

    ”The prequels will be ignored in the Episode VII story for a “fact” (May 8, 2014)”

    I knew that everything is false.

    That will never happen. Some fans seeking attention.

  • September 2, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    Man, people need to learn the difference between ignore and not contradicting. You can ignore without contradicting, thereby leaving the prequels in play to those who enjoy them, and simultaneously not reminding the people who don’t like them of their existence. See how that works?

    Stop complaining about the hand without context. For all we know, it floats by a massive battle that starts the film. You can have multiple things going on at once.

  • September 2, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    Han can be retired from military action, but have been funded for a search for Luke. I’m sure that wouldn’t be too hard if Leia is in charge of the Republic.

    • September 2, 2014 at 8:51 pm

      Maybe Han will use the Star Destroyer for infiltration in Imperial Head quarters like the shuttle on ep6, But I doubt that it’s his regular ship. The Falcon will be in ep 7.

  • September 2, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    Prequels where huge commercial success and they had decent reviews.
    And majority considers EP III the third best star wars movie.
    Even now Disney earns huge money on these films ( DVD, Blu-ray, Digital Download, and from sales of various prequel related merchants ).
    Disney will not allow any contradictions or ignoring.
    Emphasis will be on Original trilogy just because SW 7 is direct sequel of those films

    • September 3, 2014 at 12:47 am

      I couldn’t have said it better myself. Yes they might not force lines into the film to link the prequels into EP 7 but that’s just because the OT are more recent and would hold more of the cards that have influenced/will influence what is happening in the ST due to timeline. I’m curious how many of these leaks end up becoming reality, I’m sure they’ll be an awesome trilogy worthy of the Star Wars universe

  • September 2, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    *Reads the article and post’s that follow, grabs several A4 papers with rough drafths for his fanfiction, reads few of them and then burns them.

    On topic:” The idea behind there being some kind of a truce between the Empire and the Republic in regards to excavating the Sith homeworld shows that there may be a certain amount of cooperation between the two large organizations, but that hostilities still run deep years after all the bloodshed.”
    I do like the idea of cold war between the Republic and the Imperials, but still would love to hear the explanation why the two sides decided to excavate a Sith homeworld, also who told them to excavate it in the first place?

  • September 2, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    I really like the idea of a robot hand grasping a light saber in space… reminds me a bit of David Lynch’s Blue Velvet…. early in the movie the main character finds a disembodied ear in the grass. It’s weird yes, but it gets you wondering what happened.

    What really sucks is that the robot hand idea has been leaked… would have loved to be surprised by this.

  • September 2, 2014 at 9:43 pm


    -Title will feature the word “Shadow”.

    -Han and Leia had two children, a boy and a girl. Though they weren’t twins. The elder boy was said to have died in childbirth, but was secretly raised by Max Von Sydow’s character. A girl, “O…..” was born a few years later. The male child won’t appear until the next film [which takes place several years later]. This is why only one offspring has been cast for Episode 7.

    -Oscar Isaac’s character “K….” is shipmate on the Falcon, is “O…..”‘s love interest, and inherits the ship when Han perishes.

    -Luke inhabits Obit-Wan’s old home, is sought out after a disturbing turn of events, returns to Dagobah for information/reflection.

    -Boyega’s character is childhood friends with “O…..”, is a pilot, accompanies “O….” to find Luke.

    -Film will mark the first time we see the assembly of a light saber on screen, following rare ‘element’ acquisition by young Jedi in training on remote world (recently filmed in Ireland).

    -Adam Driver plays a commanding officer.

    -Gwendoline Christie plays a general.

    • September 2, 2014 at 10:34 pm

      [Spoiler Correction]

    • September 2, 2014 at 10:51 pm

      Code title is TJ/237

    • September 2, 2014 at 11:03 pm

      Are you hinting that Von Sydow’s character is biologically related to Han Solo?

  • September 2, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    flash backs would be stupid in Star Wars because we all know the story of the previous six films. Also, this is a SAGA.. not a series. I will bet that Abrams is going to screw this up by having all the male characters turn on the man tears just like he did with Star Trek, which imo was the nail in its coffin.

  • September 2, 2014 at 10:36 pm

    Don’t be ridiculous about the title. It’s not like the subtitle is something that could be easily compromised. It probably exists in a couple people’s heads…tops. George didn’t even know what the title was until he wrapped shooting.

  • September 2, 2014 at 11:07 pm

    What are you all crying about? Why would they make mention to the PT, anyway? This isn’t saying that the PT “never happened”. Jesus, a lot of you deserve to get backhanded.

  • September 2, 2014 at 11:09 pm

    How come people discusses if Tatooine is in the film? Like yeah, Abrams and Kasdan has the huge responsibility to bring a new episode in the Star Wars saga, they have the opportunity to create a new planet and they say “yes, but let’s make it like Tatooine, let’s make it desert, let’s dress people as tatooine people, take some McQuarrie draws from Tatooine!”

    Guys, you’re simply making me angry. Of course it’s Tatooine, and oh! surprise! the buildings are new. IT’S A PLANET FOR GOD SAKE, they won’t show the exact same locations.

    • September 2, 2014 at 11:19 pm

      “Mr. McGee, don’t make him angry. You wouldn’t like him when he’s angry…”


  • September 2, 2014 at 11:13 pm

    The OT vs. PT crap in these comments is ridiculous. I’m wearing out my mouse just scrolling to see if anyone has any comments pertaining to Episode 7 as I speed through the garbage. Anyone wonder why in the heck they’re digging up the Sith homeworld for a weapon? What about how Luke gets captured(I can’t believe he abandons everyone or gets lost for years)? Why aren’t Han and Leia together (a shame if true under any circumstance IMO)?

  • September 2, 2014 at 11:22 pm

    What i want to know is if there are more sith in episode 7, then how is Anakin the chosen one ?

    ” this child would destroy the sith and bring balance to the force ”

    the word ” destroy ” means that it iz all gone. nothing left. not part of, or half of, or slice of, it means gone.

    • September 3, 2014 at 5:08 pm

      There are always 2 Sith, a master and an apprentice per the order established by Darth Bane (this is canon per TCW). Therefore Anakin did destroy the Sith but that does not preclude the possibility of dark side force users. Actually there could be a new Sith Order established because the prophecy never said that Anakin would destroy the Sith for all time.

  • September 2, 2014 at 11:23 pm

    Looking at all these rumors, the only thing I’m trusting is whatever is confirmed at AICN which is Han is searching for Luke and the working title is Ancient Fear. The rest of the rumors at Latino Review and B.A. Digest seem to be nothing more than lazily reported as a mix of deliberate contradicting misinformation and partial truth perhaps twisted around by Disney similar to what Kevin Smith is doing with Batman/Superman and the fake script. For instance, the Palpatine rumor is false since you posted a news item during the week of 17 July that came straight from McDiarmid’s mouth saying he wasn’t even in the movie! Purely lazy reporting from the rumor-mongering web sites and nothing more than that. But if any of it were truly true, then Disney probably would have told them to cease and desist and so far, none of that has happened.

  • September 2, 2014 at 11:25 pm

    To be honest, the supposed “leaks” I’ve seen for this film have been far from impressive. That being said, I am impressed by JJ, Disney & Lucasfilm’s camp for managing to pull off such a feat of secrecy this long into the game. / As we’ve learned thus far, ‘It’s not about NDAs, is about respect.’

    • September 2, 2014 at 11:28 pm

      they are using the force

  • September 3, 2014 at 12:11 am

    Disney ignores the EU and I hope they will ignore PT as well. It could be actually decanonized, along with TCW crap, and they could create much better prequels than those average stuff.

    • September 3, 2014 at 12:20 am

      I really hope that this will never happen.
      Original trilogy fanatics will never love anything that is not original trilogy.

      You would hate these movies too.

  • September 3, 2014 at 12:23 am

    Disney is not stupid. They will never do something like ignore or contradict prequels.

    They do not care for prequel haters ( because no one cares for them )

    • September 3, 2014 at 8:28 pm

      Comfort yourself with the knowledge that when a little heat is applied the Snow melts.

  • September 3, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    First of all, 99 percent of this in total bunk!Steer clear of any possible “spoilers” that don’t fall in line with The Phantom Menace or A new hope.George Lucas gave us the runaround on 7,8 and 9 for over 30 years so these stories were floating around in his head for a long time, remember these treatments were written by him so expect this film to follow Ep I and Ep IV in both story and tone. That’s how George works, he repeats himself. If you see spoilers that fall in line with the stories of those 2 films then they are much more likely to be true as opposed to this other crap. Lukes missing hand? B.S. Darth Ruin? B.S. Luke not having offspring? B.S.Now, this is important.Luke has to have offspring.There has to be a character to carry on the Skywalker name.It can’t be leias child because her last name is either Organa or Solo. Luke will have a child.The only thing I believe is that the bad guys have a super weapon.If you really want to figure out the plot just look back at TPM and ANH.

    • September 3, 2014 at 10:06 pm

      Names aren’t that important in the way you see it. What was the super weapon in The Phantom Menace, ah thats right, there isn’t one.

    • September 3, 2014 at 10:32 pm

      Well, based on your argument, Obi-Wan should’ve had a kid or 2 in ANH, and ditto for Qui-Gon in TPM. Because if EP. VII will be similar to those films, then it’s safe to assume that Luke’s role will be that of the wise old Jedi master now. That would mean a learner, perhaps, but NO children for him in the ST.

  • September 3, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    Tim Snow:

    Knowing that this gives you discomfort actually brings me relief. 0:)

  • September 5, 2014 at 10:23 am

    The comments by the following names were made by one IP:

    Diagonal lines
    Random Statment
    Wookie Star destroyer crew.
    Jawas sold batteldroid parts
    Cosmic Funk Community
    Wookies Wear Pants?
    A hand raises from the Sarlaac…
    The floating hand?
    yes my dad let’s me use the internet
    Jedi Shampoo
    Punch it Chewy!
    What Falcon
    Sequels have repetition with familiarity
    Star Wars is always in motion
    It blew up in great dispair
    Teddy Ruxpin
    Are you serious?
    Jedi Soup
    Jedi Stew
    Jedi Cereal

    I deleted the comments. If this behavior continues the IP will be banned. There were other cases but not with that scale. Be careful not to be banned for something really stupid.

    • September 5, 2014 at 8:37 pm

      I don’t know, I kind of liked seeing Teddy Ruxpin after all these years.

  • September 6, 2014 at 12:29 am

    First time posting on here but I check it everyday 🙂 Anyways, my 3 year old daughter watched Return of The Jedi a few hours ago and loved it. I told her that another film was coming out so then she proceeded to create her own Star Wars Episode VII film for me to film on the ipad. Her plot was better than some of the rumours I’ve heard! Here we go…’Emperor’ and an ‘Imperial Guard’ plotted to capture Leia from her ‘ship’ then try to kill her with lightning. Leia tried to use ‘her powers’ to stop the baddies but wasn’ t strong enough. Just as she was dying Han Solo flew in, killed the ‘baddies’ and ‘saved the princess’. They then flew away in the medical frigate. I filmed all of this and was falling about laughing. It helps that she is a Disney fan, she already recognises the conventions of Star Wars and Disney!! 🙂 She named the film ‘Star Wars Episode VII: The Ship Has Gone Without The Ewoks’ I think she’s on to something. 🙂

    • October 19, 2014 at 4:28 am

      I taught the post Kris had was very funny, and yet incredible,, wow,, and the title,,

      has anyone had a try to come up with the title for episode 7..
      there is one word that is coming up that i have noticed allot. I know that in a book years ago called Rogue Leader there was a print that said Star Wars shaddows of sith,, but i think somewhere shaddows is going to be in the title, I have feeling it could be something like Star Wars Episode vii Shaddows of the Dawn, or the Dawn of the Shaddows. I could be wrong,, we will wait and see, but i would put my money on shaddows been somewhere in the title.

  • September 6, 2014 at 3:40 am

    Actually you have it in reverse, in official press releases from the studios on the cast the lead is always listed first. Star released the cast list and Boyega is first which makes him the lead and Daisy Ridley is second which makes her the co lead. As far as you not liking the new direction, protest with your pocket book by not contributing to the new direction. 98% of film has your standard white male hero, you’re not losing out on the standard hollywood trope at all.

  • September 9, 2014 at 3:18 am

    I like to think more straight forward.

    Domhnall Gleeson – Ben/Cade Skywalker

    Adam Driver – Jacen Solo (Darth Caedus)

    Andy Serkis – Kyle Katarn

    Oscar Isaac – ?

    Lupita Nyong’o – ?

    Max von Sydow – Yuuzhan Vong Leader, perhaps?

    Daisy Ridley- Jaina Solo (Married with Jarred Fel or not)

    John Boyega – ?

    Christina Chong – Vestara Khai/Blue (Cade girlfriend)

    Pip Andersen – Anakin Solo

    This a more straight forward and likely plot:

    Like someone said:

    “The path for the Truth is not to create something new, but to think in something that everyone has forgotten or ignored!!”

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