Rumors: Luke’s Captivity, Leia and the Hutts, a Count Dooku Connection, Plus Another Possible Filming Location.

black parkAnother day, another batch of Star Wars: Episode 7 rumors, this time from Making Star Wars (although with a fairly strong caveat as to the relatively uncorroborated nature of the rumors.) POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD…


Making Star Wars is reporting that they have received a batch of new Episode 7 rumors from a source who claims to have been involved with the production. The rumors are preceded by the following disclaimer:

I was not able to verify the source, but another source of ours has heard a few things in this report. So I’m sharing. Rather than think about it for a week, I figured I would just share.


So, while nobody is saying yet that these rumors are the real deal, I thought they were fun enough to pass along to you all.


Mark Hamill - Episode 7 beard

Lukes Disappearance – The idea that Luke disappeared immediately after Endor isn’t entirely true. He had a good 10 to 20 years after Return Of The Jedi ended. When the movie starts he’s been missing for around 10 years.


As far as how long Luke has been missing, assuming that he actually is indeed missing, ten years sounds a lot more reasonable than thirty. (And actually, given the fact that Mark Hamill’s beard hasn’t exactly grown to Rip Van Winkle proportions, I tend to question even a ten-year imprisonment.)
Gwendoline Christie

Count Dooku Connection – Back when Benedict Cumberbatch was a rumored addition to the cast, a rumor was that his character was a descendant of Count Dooku. This was true. This connection was then moved onto Gwendoline Christies character.


A possible Count Dooku tie-in? Who knows? Both Benedict and Gwendoline can certainly pull off the “haughty noble” persona, but on the other hand, depending on how it’s handled, having Gwendoline’s character be related to Count Dooku could  tend to draw us into a “Gee, what a small galaxy!” thing that might prove rather distracting, or it could end up being something more than just happenstance that links her character with the Skywalker clan.
Leia strangling Jabba

Leia and the Hutt’s – There was a production sketch done very very early on which showed Princess Leia standing in the middle of several Hutts. She was wearing a maroon dress (political style) and was flanked by two soldiers (they looked to me like the Naboo guards from Phantom Menace but to others they looked like the rebel soldiers from the beginning of A New Hope.) The picture looked as if she was having a meeting with them. She certainly didn’t appear to be captive or under threat. I have no idea if this sketch has anything to do with the movie that is being shot as it was very early on.


I’m not sure exactly what to make of this one either. Given the fact that the Clone Wars cartoon is now considered canon alongside of the existing films, we do know that the Hutts have a Grand Council of their own, so it wouldn’t be at all beyond the pale for Leia to have some sort of meeting with them in whatever official diplomatic capacity she may hold in Episode 7, especially if there is some sort of underworld connection with whatever the new ST threat may be. One has to wonder, naturally, how she would be received by the Hutts, given the fact that Jabba died at her hand. But as the source of this rumor points out, this may be an early concept sketch that never made it into the final film.
Dead Ewok

Endor – Again, very early on, there were several sketches titled ‘after party’ which was a bit of an in-joke. These showed a second battle of Endor. The story being that after the rebels left Endor, Imperial forces and these new villains attacked. They killed many Ewoks and more importantly left with the remains of Darth Vader. Now, where I was working at the time, there was a lot going on and some of it wasn’t necessarily related to Episode VII but other Star Wars projects that will fill in the gaps between Episode VI and VII . I don’t think these scenes will appear in the movie but rather something set between movies.


This one sounds a lot to me like the preproduction artists may have just been having some fun. True, we have heard rumors that Vader’s burned armor may make an appearance in Episode 7, but also bear in mind that when news of the Puzzlewood shoot came out awhile back, our own sources indicated that there would be no Ewoks in the film. If this was indeed a sketch that was actually done by one of the LFL concept teams, I tend to agree with the idea that it was probably for something other than Episode 7.
Sith Lords

George Lucas – George’s vision for the Sequel Trilogy was to take it right back to the beginning. Meaning, the beginning of the Jedi and Sith, how that came to be and how ancients forces were still influencing things. Luke was going to go on an adventure that would take him back to the origin of evil in the Galaxy. Some of these ideas have very much influenced the story.


This does tend to go along with the rumor that the movie could be called “The Ancient Fear”, and it also would explain what sort of unfinished business may have remained following the deaths of Vader and the Emperor in ROTJ. While battles against enemies such as neo-Imperial stormtroopers or space pirates would make for a good old fashioned Star Wars adventure, that alone doesn’t seem like a worthy threat for Luke Skywalker to take on. But if the source behind Emperor Palpatine’s power were to still exist and be experiencing a resurgence of some kind… that’d be rather fitting for Luke’s final challenge as a Jedi.
black park country park

In addition to these story rumors, Making Star Wars also reports a rumor from a different source that indicates that Episode 7 may have been doing some filming in Buckinghamshire’s Black Park Country Park:


Today I was informed by a friend who visited Black Park Country Park in Buckinghamshire that Star Wars: Episode VII was filming there. On his tour his guide told him that the movie was being shot there, he also told me he saw “extremely large” blue screens there! He visited last week on Tuesday the 12th of August which for me is very interesting as after a bit of investigating I discovered a comment on Trip Advisor from somebody who visited the Country Park, within the comment it said “Star Wars VII is filming here”, that was posted about a month ago. So to me it seems they are using a local Country Park to shoot in. Could this be the Forest planet we’ve been hearing a lot about? Also a month or more of filming? I wonder if this planet will play a big part in the next chapter?


Black Park is no stranger to the film industry, with numerous movies and TV programs having filmed there over the years, including such franchises as Harry Potter, James Bond and Doctor Who. Could Star Wars be next on that list? Though we have nothing even close to official confirmation on this yet, I’d hardly call it beyond the realm of possibility.


And those, my friends, are the latest whisperings from the old Star Wars grapevine. As always, I wouldn’t go betting the kids’ college fund on any of these just yet, but I think that there are some interesting ideas here nonetheless.


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88 thoughts on “Rumors: Luke’s Captivity, Leia and the Hutts, a Count Dooku Connection, Plus Another Possible Filming Location.

  • August 19, 2014 at 12:38 am

    Quite a lot of information there. I don’t get why people complain about the lack of rumors when we get scoops like this.

  • August 19, 2014 at 12:41 am

    The Leia/Hutt meeting thing is pure genius in terms of her rather bumpy history with the Hutts regarding Jabba. I have no idea how that would even work or the context of the scene. I guess it’s just Leia’s entrance into the film to set up her position as chancelor or whatever and she’s probably talking to them via a hologram or something. But the actual concept to have Leia talking to Hutts is genius. The mind boggles in terms of one-liner potential. Leia’s in charge now bitchess

    • August 19, 2014 at 12:52 am

      She always was my kind of scum, able to get down and dirty with the rest of them.

    • August 19, 2014 at 12:56 am

      hahaha they might dislike her for killing their Godfather though

      • August 19, 2014 at 11:57 am

        …Jabba, as it turns out, was more the black sheep of the clan.

        Now, they’re negotiating where to buy her a round of drinks.

  • August 19, 2014 at 12:53 am

    I like that they might delve more into ancient Sith/Jedi history, it would allow for some really cool mythology and symbolism and themes and all that jazz. But I hope they don’t dwell too much on dead Sith, like Dooku, Vader, the Emperor, or even older ones. I want to see a really badass living one!

  • August 19, 2014 at 12:56 am

    Where 10 years is still a long time I personally would take over the 30 year concept.

    Also wouldn’t have to been imprisoned the whole time, if at all.

    Don’t mind the Dooku connection if true and like Leia Hutt angle if those turn out to be true.

    As for Ewoks I wouldn’t take an anything less then Disney saying they won’t be in as proof. Not saying they will be but the no seems as sketchy as the yes there imo.

    • August 19, 2014 at 1:03 am

      Damn, that’s a lot of liberties taken with your grammar, Silver City.

      • August 19, 2014 at 1:09 am

        I post from my phone, doesn’t care for the site somedays. Typing has been slow today and it didn’t give me option to edit the post.

        My apologize. *Shrug*

  • August 19, 2014 at 12:56 am

    Pinewood studios sits adjacent to Black Park, so this is no surprise that filming of the forest scenes should resume there, following interesting angles captured at Puzzlewood.

  • August 19, 2014 at 1:03 am

    The only way I would be okay with Ewoks being in the movie is if the Empire goes back and slaughters them all. They were the Original Trilogy’s Jar Jar.

    • August 19, 2014 at 4:22 pm

      I was think the same thing. A dead Ewok would be a good Ewok

  • August 19, 2014 at 1:08 am

    Did the Imperial manage to liberate Darth Vader’s glove? It’s of vital importance to their survival that they did. 😛

    • August 19, 2014 at 1:25 am

      I bid you dark greetings, Ryus!

  • August 19, 2014 at 1:11 am

    Jedi/Sith Origins? Oh man…I have so much ideas just on that…sad that I can´t give my 5 cent to the script…

  • August 19, 2014 at 1:12 am

    The rumor about Gwendoline Christie is wrong. She’s not Dooku’s descendant, but rather Bria Tharen’s (Han’s first love interest, according to the EU). And her name will be “Brianne of Tharen”.

    • August 19, 2014 at 1:28 am

      Even though I’m pretty sure you’re making a joke about her playing “Brienne Of Tarth”, I think that could work as a sort of connective tissue to the old EU while still having ties to the new EU. Dooku used alternative aliases before, so why couldn’t he have given his hypothetical wife/lover/one-night-stander a fake name?

      • August 19, 2014 at 1:40 am

        Yes, my previous comment was in jest, obviously. And not only because of Christie playing Brienne on TV, but also because of the similarities between that character’s name and Bria Tharen’s.

        In all seriousness, I wouldn’t mind it if Christie was playing a noble with ties to Dooku. I just don’t see many EU connections working with the overall audience, because not everyone is into the EU novels and stuff.

        I am a SW fan since ANH’s original release, for instance, yet I haven’t read all that many EU novels (I did read the young Han trilogy, though, hence how I know about Bria), so I’d have trouble identifying a nod to certain EU characters.

        In that sense, I would prefer references related to PT characters or brand-new characters, preferably, completely unrelated to those we already know.

  • August 19, 2014 at 1:29 am

    Who is the sith character in this article’s painting ? (The one in white mask.)

  • August 19, 2014 at 1:35 am

    If she’s visiting the Hutts, she’s probably looking for leads to Luke’s whereabouts and who’d have motive to have him go missing.

    I never put this together before, but if it’s KNOWN that Luke is missing, then it puts someone finding his lightsaber and then trying to peice together where he is make more sense.

  • August 19, 2014 at 1:43 am

    I very much like the idea of focusing on the origins of the jedi and the sith.

    It seems good old George still has a few tricks up his sleeve 🙂

  • August 19, 2014 at 1:51 am

    To be honest, I would be really pleased if some or all of these rumors turned out to be true. This all sounds great to me.

  • August 19, 2014 at 1:52 am

    The idea of Dooku having offspring is rather interesting. Rather him than Palpatine, I should say — based on the notion that absolute evil is somehow necessarily barren.

    • August 19, 2014 at 3:21 am

      Palpatine wasn’t absolute evil. Absolute evil is self-destructive, because you would hate EVERYTHING so much, that you’d eventually end up destroying your own self.

      Palpatine clearly didn’t self-destruct. His mistake was that he overlooked that blood is thicker than water.

      Doesn’t mean Palpatine could not have used and abused a few ladies here or there, and put a whelp in their bellies, though.

      • August 19, 2014 at 10:44 am

        I don’t know. Somehow I think Palpatine was so focused on acquiring absolute power that he would be beyond not only love, but carnal lust as well. To me it is counterintuitive that Palpatine should have had a sexlife, even before his appearance was distorted in the confrontation with Mace Windu (which, BTW, I interpret as his true face being revealed).

        Dooku, who fell to the dark side relatively late in life, could have sired a child before it happened.

        • August 19, 2014 at 6:32 pm

          Well, I respect your opinion, of course, and I do agree up to a certain point. A powerful dark lord that has conquered it all should be above material and sensual things, obsessed with absolute power instead, indeed.

          That said, sexual energy’s always been commonly associated with powerful magic (see Tantra). Plus sexual rituals have always been associated with black magic (which IMO is pretty much what the Dark Side is).

          So maybe Palpatine wasn’t having sex just for kicks, but to unlock more Dark Side powers and secrets, as part of his Sith training when he was younger. That’s when he could’ve had progeny.

          In fact, I can see how lust could play a much more important role with the Sith than the Jedi, given that the former are all about letting go, and giving in to basic passion and the latter are all about self-control.

          Not expecting any of that mature stuff to ever be seen on screen, obviously, but it’s possible when you think of it.

          • August 19, 2014 at 10:34 pm

            No, we certainly won’t be seeing any Tantric magic onscreen in a Disney movie.

            As for Palpatine, he was in his 50s or 60s in the Prequels, and (I believe) 89 when Vader finally threw him down. At all of these ages he would have been over the strongest passions of youth anyway. I agree that any Palpy sex would have to take place when he was younger, but if he is to have a child of, say, 30-40 years of age in the Sequels, this offspring would have to be conceived towards the very end of his rule.

            And as I interpret the character, the old man loved and lusted for nothing but power at that stage; women would just be trivial distractions.

            I imagine Palpatine’s later life to be rather ascetic, focussed entirely on the endless power high of ruling the fates of an entire galactic population.

            He doesn’t “indulge”; he doesn’t dress in luxurious clothes, but only wears a very simple black cloak. (Ian McDiarmid was initially surprised by the simple costume they gave him.) I can’t see him indulging in any orgies involving food or sex either.

  • August 19, 2014 at 2:08 am

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  • August 19, 2014 at 2:09 am

    VII is so FAKE.

    I can’t believe they are only doing Tatooine on a backlot like that.

    So much for the more “practical” film-making that they talked about.

    Can’t even go on location like I and II.

    BTW this isn’t serious just in case you are wondering but deliciously funny.

    As for a Dooku relation making it a smaller galaxy that makes no sense like complaining about Anakin assembling 3PO.

    This is a story where Vader is Luke’s father for goodness sakes!!

    The prequels opened up Star Wars from a human centric universe that was backwater Earth style planets that looked like Earth to aliens on planets of galactic visions that no one could have imagined 30 years ago.

    • August 21, 2014 at 6:54 am

      Not looking to start an argument. But anikan building cpo was stupid on so many levels.
      1 cpo is clearly mass produced. There are others similar and some identical to him except for the discolored leg
      2 he’s a protocol droid. Clearly build for functions that are of no value to Annie and his mother.
      3 having Ben hang out with the two droids regularly for years. Interacting with them for years. Calling them by name and when he meets up with them again in Iv he has no clue that he has ever seen them before. Was Ben senile?

  • August 19, 2014 at 3:15 am

    So what if the plot is Boyega and Ridley finding Luke’s lightsaber and taking it to Han, who then takes it to Leia?
    Episode VII could be about the search for him and revealing who the ST villain(s) are. This could make a great plot!

    I think it would be sweet if the remnants of the Empire were like a cult. Following the ways of The Emperor/Vader.
    Maybe Gwendoline is learning the ways of the sith?
    Lots of good stuff here!

  • August 19, 2014 at 3:19 am

    The power behind the Emperor. That rings true as it is the most logical direction for the story to go since this is the last mystery left unexplored by the previous six movies. The idea of inquisitors felt as fake as the TPM Yoda puppet, but this rings true to me.

    • August 19, 2014 at 3:47 am

      I agree. The Inquisitors would just be a leftover relic of Palpatine’s reign. Luke already defeated Palpatine and helped Darth Vader to return from the dark side. Defeating a creation of Palpatine’s and Vader’s would be redundant and anticlimactic.

      The only way to go bigger is to come up with something that would have exceeded Palpatine’s power and embodiment of evil. The source of the Sith line would certainly fit that bill.

      • August 19, 2014 at 3:56 am

        Just for the sake of playing devil’s advocate…

        What if the Inquisitors weren’t Palpys creation? IF the rumor has any truth to it, they have some sort of long history with the Sith. Why are you defaulting to they are just his left overs? Technically they can write in any history they want.

        I know the one in Rebels is shown as a tool used by Palpy/Vader but again they could write in a number of explanations.

        **Not saying that is the case. Just making conversation.

        • August 19, 2014 at 5:27 am

          For obvious, good story-telling purposes, the villains in the ST have to be at least as good and convincing as the Darth bunch was during the PT and OT.

          Now, these Inquisitors are not only far too weak in comparison to actual, full-fledged Sith Lords, IMO they’re just downright lame.

          Even if that wasn’t the case, and Abrams and Kasdan managed to somehow make these Inquisitors menacing and fearful, where were they during Palpatine’s rise to power (aka the PT) or during the Gallactic Civil War (aka the OT)?

          One would think that such a powerful force would have to be discussed, at the very least, if not portrayed in the films. Besides, based on what the rumor about the Inquisitors claims, these characters would’ve been doing exactly as Darth Sidious’ apprentices did: the Sith Lord’s dirty work.

          Yes, they can sure take the story wherever they want, sure. Doesn’t mean it has to be an extremely lame direction, though.

          • August 19, 2014 at 6:08 am

            I still think Disney is pulling a Lion King 1 1/2: inquisitors were there all along though you didn’t see em.

          • August 19, 2014 at 6:10 am

            Given that we no nothing about the history of the group (if it exists) it seems a bit of a stretch to make claims on it’s power/motivation. I admit this would need a solid explanation though. Don’t see it as impossible to pull off however.

          • August 19, 2014 at 6:50 pm

            No, it’s not impossible to pull it off. Just very hard and far-fetched to sell, IMO. Think about this for a second now…

            According to canon, we know that the Sith were in control of the galaxy once before Palpatine’s rise to power. Then they almost self-destructed, and had to remain in the shadows for a 1000 yrs. Moreover, Darth Bane realized that uncontrollable greed was to blame for the fall of the Sith Empire, so he comes up with the Rule of Two.

            Now, why would the Sith recruit and train spies and assassins (be them Inquisitors, “Hands” or w/e their name) when said spies and assassins could be inclined to betray each other and their masters to gain more power, as easily as it happened before?

            Sorry, but I just don’t see it working. And I’m certainly not buying some BS story to justify the Inquisitors’ absence from key moments in the PT and OT where the Sith could’ve certainly used their help.

          • August 19, 2014 at 7:22 pm

            First, going to stress again that I am just playing devils advocate more then anything.

            Perhaps they aren’t the ones being recruited. Perhaps whatever the group is has their own motivation for working with the Sith. As such they could have their own reasons for staying in the shadows. Who would mention them? Why? For what reason? If only Palpy and Vader knew who/what they were?

            The rumor,if true, made it seem like they had a long connection to the Sith, not just Palpy or Vader. If that’s so, combined with the ability to rewrite the old era Sith history (before Bane), there is a lot of directions they could go.

          • August 19, 2014 at 6:21 am

            Somthing that may or may not play a role is that with the EU blanked the OR era//Sith history etc aren’t in play(for now at least). They could rewrite all of that to their liking.

    • August 19, 2014 at 5:01 am

      That doesn’t ring true for me – too same/same, and neither does it fit for me with ‘The Ancient Fear’. I still believe the the ‘forested’ world is Dathomir, and the fear may be the same fear that caused Palpadine to quarantine and outlaw contact with Dathomir.

      • August 19, 2014 at 8:15 am


        The SoD comics( which are canon AFAIK) do have Palpy hunting down Talzin because he considers her a threat.

        Though the final comic isn’t out yet so that question could get answered in that.

  • August 19, 2014 at 4:40 am

    So this rumor basically says that ten years before the movie Luke went on a mission to discover the secret origin of the Sith, or something like that, and hasn’t been seen since. Then at some point in the movie he’s discovered to have been captured by some sort of Sith-related villain, and has a long grey beard, etc. He is presumably rescued and joins the heroes. This sounds like a decent story. I would be happy with that.

    • August 19, 2014 at 5:13 am

      You make it sound so incredible interesting! The anticipation is unbearable.

  • August 19, 2014 at 5:03 am

    I agree. It’s a strong premise.

  • August 19, 2014 at 5:33 am

    What if the Inquisitors in EP.VII are the former Emperor’s guards???

    Ten years gone is way too long :/

    • August 19, 2014 at 11:06 am

      Those purple-clad guys COULD be expanded on, yes. We were never quite told who they are, and we are only vaguely left with the impression that they are some kind of body-guard to the Emperor.

      Revealing that they were/are something far more sinister would be a nice way of expanding upon an element that is already “there”, a major menace hiding in plain sight as it were. That would help to offset the feeling that an entirely new group of villains is randomly created and inserted into this universe to give our heroes someone to fight. They have been seen before; we just didn’t realize their importance.

      Did they survive the destruction of the Death Star II, though? Maybe the ones we saw onscreen were just part of a larger “order”, and there could be more of them than the ones who were with Palpatine at any given time.

  • August 19, 2014 at 5:38 am

    Don’t forget that jabba do have a son, rotta, after the clone wars we haven’t heared anything of him, its now around 50 years after this events and i don’t think his very happy with the fact he was grown up without a dad, because with the hutt species the age is others then with humans. Around this time, he should be a little older and wiser, maybe wise enough to take over his fathers place.

    • August 19, 2014 at 6:14 am

      I could sort of see Rotta as being a more benevolent version of Jabba. At the least, he would most likely be more willing to assist Jedi given that Anakin and Ahsoka saved his life while he was in diapers. Seeing how he’d interact with Leia would be particularly interesting.

      • August 19, 2014 at 4:10 pm

        “Oh great and powerful Stinky… I would ask a boon of you.”


  • August 19, 2014 at 6:28 am

    I just hope the links to the OT are organic and not forced and unbelievable like in the prequels. Anakin built 3PO? Ouch.

  • August 19, 2014 at 9:55 am

    I believe that the rumor involving Luke uncovering the mystery of the Jedi and Sith will be true. This is the kind of background that I could see Lucas having in his head all along while writing his saga. It’s also a story that I could see Hamill being excited to make – especially considering when he heard of the possible storyline of Episodes 7-9 in the early 1980’s, he exclaimed that those are the stories I want to do!

    I would like to hear people’s opinions on what that origin story could be. My theory is that Luke’s hiatus parallels the Crusades, and is trying to discover long lost Jedi artifacts (but not like Indiana Jones, lol, although I would not be surprised if some ideas from that series that were never used crossed over into Star Wars). Or maybe there was an ancient force user, neither Jedi or Sith, that was an ancient prophet that gets introduced?

    • August 19, 2014 at 6:13 pm

      No Indiana Jones crossover stuff, please!
      Your last speculation is the best – ancient force user neither Jedi or Sith, and some sort of powerful cult following emerging to threaten the galaxy.

      • August 19, 2014 at 11:19 pm

        I didn’t mean cross over in that sense, just cross overs in brainstorming ideas that Spielberg and Lucas may have had. I could imagine a conversation between the two of them, and Spielberg saying, “You should save that idea for Star Wars instead”.

        Since Luke is trying to resurrect the Jedi Order, he may look for ancient artifacts like the Khybur crystal or the Journal of the Whills which Lucas has briefly mentioned in his original notes. Maybe they were salvaged by Yoda on Dagobah? Maybe it was one of these artifacts that caused Luke to have his vision in the cave? Or maybe they have been hidden for thousands of years by a cult? Could these artifacts reveal the secret origins of the Jedi and Sith? Maybe the Journal of Whills is a metaphor for the Tree of Knowledge, and the Khybur crystal a metaphor for the Tree of Life? Could this Khybur crystal reveal the secret origins of life and/or immortality? There are so many possibilities.

  • August 19, 2014 at 11:11 am

    It really goes to show that Ep7 is a mystery box.

  • August 19, 2014 at 11:40 am

    What if the Sith is a spirit that must always inhabit a body. And that spirit first inhabited Plagueis, then Palpatine, then Anakin, and so Vader… When Vader died, who was standing closest? And so it possessed Luke. He went searching for the Sith in a struggle to exorcize it, and was captured by them. Adam Driver’s character rescued Luke, but became possessed by the Sith spirit; Vader’s spirit. Now Luke must kill him, but there’s one problem… He’s Han’s son, and Han will stop at nothing to protect him.

    I think this should be the plot. And it explains why Driver keeps being linked to Vader in rumors.

    • August 20, 2014 at 6:43 am

      That is actually damn interesting. Good idea!

    • August 20, 2014 at 10:39 am

      That could explain why Luke saw himself in Vader’s helmet in ESB. Great idea.

    • August 21, 2014 at 12:42 am

      That makes no sense at all what you said…

      How would it posses Vader and the Emperor at the same time?

      Just like the whole “If the essence behind the Emperors power still exists”

      Yes it does! OMG spoiler alert! Are you ready for this?

      It’s called the dark side of the Force.

  • August 19, 2014 at 1:57 pm

    I wonder if Salacious Crumb survived the sail barge explosion

    • August 19, 2014 at 3:05 pm

      He did. He actually left the barge seconds before the explosion as he went to save Boba Fett.

    • August 19, 2014 at 4:15 pm

      Salacious LIVES!!!

  • August 19, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    These so called “spoilers” are nothing but a J.J. Abam’s mind trick. Nothing has been answered. In fact, all we are left with are more questions. Let me clarify what these MAJOR questions are:

    1. Having inquisitors or assassins, and stormtroopers are all well in good, but they all HAVE to answer to someone. They, by themselves, can’t be the main antagonist. They’re puppets, who is the puppet master, the new Emperor? Someone has to be Cesar.

    2. The use of force users as “inquisitors” or Force Assassins is NOT a new concept. In the Clone Wars Series (which is cannon), Ventress was just that in Palpatine’s eyes. Unbeknownst to him, Dooku was training her as an apprentis. When Palpatine realized this he tried to have her killed. Also in this series, Darth Maul returns. Palpatine captures him and tells him that although he’s not his apprentis, he has “other” uses for him.. we never see him again. Can we venture to guess what those uses are? Before it was removed from cannon, StarKiller (if you chose the dark side) was transformed into a Palpatine assassin. So where is Maul? Where is Ventress? What’s there roll in all this?

    3. Again coming from Clone Wars.. WHERE THE HELL IS AHSOKA TANO? It’s hard for me to believe that as close as Anakin and Ahsoka were, that A.) She wouldn’t have tried to, at the very least, have a conversation with “Darth Vader/Anakin”. And B.) Been an instrumental part of the rebel alliance. Now I understand the big issue is, she didn’t exist until after Lucas wrote episodes 1-6… Still, this NEEDS to be resolved somehow. I believe she’ll pop up somewhere and be a Major character. Despite his homocidal/genocidal rage, Anakin/Vader has a hard time letting people go once he forms his emotional attachment. He truly loved Ahsoka as a daughter.. Is it hard to believe that he wouldn’t try to save her from Order 66? Carbonite would be ideal!

    • August 19, 2014 at 3:10 pm

      A quest to find the owner of a floating hand in space? Really? Come on guys! Your mind tricks don’t work on me!

    • August 19, 2014 at 8:56 pm

      Ahsoka may not know Vader is Anakin. If we assume the events in Sith took place in a very short period of time very few people would have know Vader and Anakin were the same person. It appears very few escaped the Jedi Temple and only Ben and Yoda saw the footage of the slaughter. I believe there are only a handful of people that know about Vader’s origin. I don’t think it would have been advertised either.

      Also, we make get the answer to the question about Ahsoka in Rebels. She would be very old by the time of Ep VII. We are talking 50 years or so after Sith for this movie.

      • August 19, 2014 at 9:56 pm

        Hence Carbonite.. If she’s frozen, she’d be the same age.. Picture it.. Instead of finding a floating hand, maybe they find a Frozen Ahsoka. That starts the quest to find Luke. Disney has their female hero.

        • August 20, 2014 at 2:24 am

          Oh snap! Ahsoka floating through space in carbonate…she’s awoken…she finds Luke’s first lightsaber but recognizes it as Anakin’s…she goes on the quest to find Luke…who she then trains in parts of the force she discovered on her own.

          And boom, Lupitais Ahsoka.

          Still better than a floating hand.

    • August 19, 2014 at 10:28 pm

      Darth Maul’s fate after The Clone Wars is shown in Darth Maul: Son Of Dathomir. In fact, the last issue of that miniseries comes out tomorrow.

      • August 20, 2014 at 8:46 pm

        From what I looked up apparently the ending to the final SoD comic was a bit open ended and didn’t give any clear answer to a few things.

  • August 19, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    Side note..

    Easily the most anticipated Star Wars movie to date?

    • August 19, 2014 at 8:45 pm

      Okay, I’ll bite. Tell us!

    • August 19, 2014 at 11:40 pm

      Actually, The Phantom Menace was probably the most highly anticipated film in movie history.

      • August 20, 2014 at 12:26 am

        It was definitely the most anticipated film ever AND the most disappointing in the history of movies

  • August 19, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    The first few drafts of SW ANH was about the Kaiburr crystal. Maybe they will use that in ep7?

    • August 19, 2014 at 9:19 pm

      I’ve wondered about that too. The Kaiburr crystal was also used in the very first EU book, Splinter of the Mind’s Eye, and I believe I recall hearing that Lucas considered incorporating it somehow into the PT and decided not to.

      So it would make sense that perhaps the Kaiburr crystal might factor into the ST story somehow, especially if there’s any part of the storyline that deals with ancient Jedi/Sith history.

      • August 19, 2014 at 11:48 pm

        Lucas never seems to let completely go of a name or an idea (“Mace Windu” goes back to early drafts). The Force-enhancing “Kaiburr crystal” is one of the concepts that have been floating around ever since the seventies, but these fabled crystals have never quite made it into any movie. Perhaps it will finally happen.

        • August 20, 2014 at 11:17 am

          I think it was Superman the movie that changed him using the Kaiburr crystal, perhaps.

  • August 19, 2014 at 9:45 pm


    Luke was captured by the nightsisters who are working with the Inquisitors to resurrect Vader. They will either try to merge Vader’s spirit into Luke or clone Vader.

    You’ll see the return of Vader, and when he’s defeated destroyed, they take the helmet off and its Luke.

    Because Luke saw himself in the helmet on Dagobah.

    Nevermind that Vader had redeemed himself at the end of Jedi…

    Or that a cloned Vader or Luke has no need for the suit because they aren’t burned…

    Or that Luke’s vision on Dagobah was a warning that he could turn to the darkside. Yoda telling him “only what you take with you” was alluding to the fact that Luke could fall to the Dark side just as easily as Vader…

    • August 19, 2014 at 11:33 pm

      I think you nailed it on your last comment. After seeing the director’s comments on what that scene entailed, he described it as Luke being his own worst enemy.

      • August 20, 2014 at 5:19 pm

        When TESB was orginally released, I thought that was going to be the storyline for ROTJ. I think it would be cool to have Luke struggle with the Dark Side and shit since Yoda claimed he was too fuckin old to train and also because Luke kept having anger/patience issues.
        It would be better to have Luke fuckin around on the Dark Side rather than introduce some lame “evil” character that fans are just going to bitch about. Of course, the fans could bitch about Luke being evil too so wtf can you do right?

  • August 20, 2014 at 12:48 am

    I’m having a hard time believing that any forests in England could be used as a stand-in for Endor.

    The ROTJ Endor scenes were filmed in N.California – where the giant Sequoia pine trees grow.

    I grew up in England and while the forests are beautiful, the trees there bare no comparison of scale to the ancient Giant Sequioas.

  • August 20, 2014 at 12:55 am

    Blue… screens…?

    • August 20, 2014 at 2:12 am

      I’m actually surprised that they’re using Blue Screens for whatever shots and not Green Screens. Why use an obsolete filming method?

      • August 20, 2014 at 11:26 am

        I was under the impression that green vs blue was for the night vs day aspect.
        It depends on what tones, hues, or color palette that is in shot which requires the use of green vs blue.

      • August 20, 2014 at 3:17 pm

        Using green screens in a green forest setting could be problematic. Blue screens is perhaps the better choice in that particular situation.

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