Speculation: Is Obi-Wan’s Grandchild In Star Wars: Episode 7?

Back in January of this year an interesting series of rumors broke out on the internets. One of them was that Adam Driver of Girls pseudo-fame was in the running for a part in Episode VII. That came true. But guess what else was rumored in January that appears to be coming true? Make the jump to hyperspace and we’ll take a closer look.

The Hollywood Reporter, a very reliable source for entertainment news scoops, tidbits, rumors, gossip and information, published an article about some interesting Episode VII rumors back on January 11th. Let’s recap:

The Star Wars: Episode VII casting speculation game continues — and The Hollywood Reporter’s Heat Vision has a few names to add to the mix: Michael Fassbender, Girls star Adam Driver and Hugo Weaving […] 

The latest bit to surface this week is that Abrams and Lucasfilm are now searching for a twentysomething female actress who is either of mixed race or black. The rumor is that Obi-Wan Kenobi had a daughter or granddaughter.

Then in early April, Viral Hide reported the news that Maisie Richardson-Sellers was a leading candidate for the part of the mixed-race character that is RUMORED to be Obi-Wan’s granddaughter:

Speculation is swirling like the mists of Dagobah around newcomer Maisie Richardson-Sellers. Several sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that she is in line to nab an undisclosed and possibly major role in the high-profile Disney/Lucasfilm production, which is in the middle of an extended casting search in London in advance of a May production start date. 

One of the roles yet to be filled is that of a young black or mixed-race woman who may be a descendent of Jedi Knight Ben Kenobi. In the film, which takes place 30 years after the events of 1983’s Star Wars: Episode IV: Return of the Jedi, the character would cross paths with the children of Han Solo, Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia.

Is this Maisie???

Now with Saturday’s latest (as yet unconfirmed) news that Maisie Richardson-Sellers has joined the cast of Episode VII, is it really possible that she could be playing the granddaughter of Obi-Wan Kenobi?

George Lucas’ Jedi Knights were influenced by the Samurai, noble Japanese warriors who served a higher purpose. Those without masters were called “Ronin,” but they always served honorably above all else. Some could even argue that the Jedi bear a strong historical resemblance to the order of fighting monks, who took vows of poverty, traveled in pairs, and fought with swords who were known as the Knights Templar. Both examples helped shape George’s idea of a Jedi who served a higher purpose, in the case of Star Wars that purpose being the Force. 

What else do we know about the Jedi Order? We know that they search for and recruit younglings who are strong in the Force. We know that the Jedi are guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy, that they are trained in the light side of the Force, and that they serve for life. We also know that they are forbidden from having attachments. 

Obi-Wan Kenobi fought Anakin Skywalker because the latter embraced all the opposite teachings of the Jedi Order. In Revenge of the Sith, Obi-Wan, acting as the representative of the order, judged Anakin and (seemingly) destroyed him for his selfish beliefs. Then, as we all know, Obi-Wan takes Luke to Tatooine to hide him and watch over him as the last hope of the Jedi. When we see Obi-Wan in A New Hope he is the quintessential hermit archetype as Uncle Owen tells us, “That wizard’s just a crazy old man.” Obi-Wan eventually tells Luke that Anakin was betrayed and killed by Vader, which is true from the Jedi perspective as Anakin fell to the Dark Side.

This is all important to review because as we fast forward 35 years to Episode VII and IF the rumors are true that Obi-Wan had a granddaughter, then we become spoiled in two significant ways — First, we will have learned a key plot-point. And second, and most importantly, the Original Trilogy becomes spoiled and rendered pointless.

Kenobi having a child illustrates that his beliefs in the Jedi Order were not strong, that he was just as prone to falling to the Dark Side as Anakin and that he was just as likely to form and hold onto attachments. Therefore, this key element [flaw] of Kenobi’s character poses tremendous problems for the filmmakers. Why did Obi-Wan fight Anakin? Why not join his side? IF Obi-Wan knowingly has a child, then why not watch over said child and raise it to become a powerful Jedi to fight alongside Luke? Why not just rebuild the Jedi Order himself? All of these questions, likely without plausible answers, ultimately destroy what has come before.

IF Kenobi unknowingly has a child then he becomes painted as a sort of “deadbeat dad,” running around the galaxy with a girl in every port. This poses all kinds of other problematic questions like, Why didn’t Obi-Wan know he had a child? Are Jedi not taught the birds and the bees? Did he think his partner died like Padme? (Which would be redundant.) Was he trying to protect them for some reason? And if so then why couldn’t he do it? This potential storyline seems to bring too much “reality” into a fantasy designed to remove us from it. Yes, Star Wars, and myth in general, tells stories designed to help us in life, however there are limits, especially where “ret-conning” a character is concerned. And this particular ret-con would destroy Kenobi’s character.

Now some fans may or may not know that in The Clone Wars series Obi-Wan had a semi-romance with a Mandalorian named Duchess Satine Kryze. Satine was killed and as she was dying revealed her feelings for Obi-Wan:

Alas, Obi-Wan and Satine never formally became a couple and they never produce a love-child, which means that Kenobi didn’t have a daughter with the only character we know of that he had romantic feelings for. For Satine to be Kenobi’s “baby mamma” they’d have to do some serious ret-conning, which seems highly unlikely.

However, we know very little of Obi-Wan’s background now that everything outside the movies and TCW series is considered non-canon. For all we know Obi-Wan had five brothers and three sisters left behind on planet Stewjon. Perhaps the Force, strong in his family, produced this rumored Kenobi presumably to be played by Maisie Richardson-Sellers? This is a point that was echoed by the Latino Review, who we all know is a little shaky when it comes to reporting on rumors:

In response to a rumor that Obi-Wan would have some sort of offspring, we’re told that it’s absolutely not true. That being said, the Kenobi family will come into play. Could be niece nephew, no real details on that one. It could be a Force Ghost or a something else, we just know it’s not his daughter or grandkid.

There’s definitely more to Obi-Wan’s story that we don’t know. For instance, we do know that he will be appearing in the new series Rebels, which will fill in some of what he did while he was waiting for Luke to grow up. Disney has already announced that there are 3 spinoff films planned and young Obi-Wan himself, Ewan McGregor, says he’s up for playing the role again, especially in a spinoff.  Perhaps Obi-Wan’s character would be well-served as the feature of his own story, so long as it’s not about him impregnating some poor Tusken girl and then ditching her the next day. I, for one, would be all for it, especially while Ewan is willing and able.

But having a young Solo, almost certainly to be played by Daisy Ridley (and perhaps another actor as the son of Solo), a young Skywalker perhaps in Domnhall Gleeson, perhaps a young Calrissian played by John Boyega, and now a young Kenobi, would do nothing more than shrink the vast galaxy of possibility as we sadly learn that the only good guys in it have to be named either Solo, Skywalker, Calrissian, or Kenobi. Hell, we might as well throw in Chewie’s son “Lumpy” from the Star Wars Holiday Special while we’re at it! 

So does Obi-Wan have a granddaughter? Should he? Will she appear in Episode VII? I don’t think so. At most she will be a distant relative. At least let us hope this is the case. Let us also hope that JJ and co. are waging a massive mis-information campaign against the internets and it’s army of Bothan spies, although his “mystery box” strategy didn’t exactly work for “Kahn” in Star Trek Into Darkness, did it? But that’s Star Trek. JJ has already bolstered security in the wake of AT-AT foot-gate. Thus far JJ, KK et al have made all the right moves, so we have to just keep the faith that they know exactly what they’re doing and that they won’t destroy a beloved character for the sake of a new one. Besides, the last thing in the world they want to do is piss-off the fans. Ultimately, until we see the movie we just have to have faith in JJ, because as he succinctly put it, everything else is just “a lot of noise.”

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64 thoughts on “Speculation: Is Obi-Wan’s Grandchild In Star Wars: Episode 7?

  • May 18, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    Miss info i say,but new jedi there will be.

    • May 21, 2014 at 12:26 am

      JJ Abrams pissed off Star Trek fans with numerous contradictions to Gene Roddenberry’s vision and characters. We should expect the same. Some may say “Well, Star Wars fans are more critical and the fanbase is more aggressive.” This may or may not be true, as I’ve seen some pretty dedicated and crazy-aggressive trekkies.

  • May 18, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    Perhaps there will be a evil character pretending to be a descendant of Kenobi. Once she gains the trust of the Solo/Skywalker family, she will slaughter them all! Mwahaha!!!

    • May 18, 2014 at 10:31 pm

      What if Max von Sydow was Kenobi’s brother and Maisie his granddaughter?

  • May 18, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    Obi-Wan having offspring doesnt fit with the integrity of the character. Happy to see him return as a force ghost (keep Ewan McGregor) but a child of Kenobi doesnt feel right as his focus was always upon the young Luke Skywalker. Unless its some kind of descendant of the Kenobi line, i.e. a sibling’s offspring, possible, but introducing this kind of character gets convoluted and unecessary.

    • December 13, 2014 at 8:13 am

      Having relatives. Convoluted and unnecessary. Also, something we all have.

  • May 18, 2014 at 6:20 pm

    I just don’t see why. I mean seriously … why? How would that be good? How will that make the film better in any way shape or form? It would just unnecessarily complicate things for no reason and also partly destroy and distract you when you go back to watch the original films and see old-ben because he will become tainted. These new characters should be interesting and compelling on their own merit, not because their dead grandfather happened to be an established character from another film. Enough with the Kenobi’s. They didn’t even have any significance apart from Obi-wan. Let’s establish new families and dynamics, not steal things from the past as a lame excuse for an interesting backstory.

  • May 18, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    I really hope that this isn’t true. Obi-Wan having a granddaughter or any offspring for that matter really doesn’t do a character that abides by the code of the Jedi Order even after it’s collapse. Him having a child during his time on Tatooine is the only plausible explanation. But for a guy trying to hide from the empire, having a relationship would jeopardize that. Chances are that the woman that had his child left before telling him that he had a child, but it’s kind of a stretch.

    • May 21, 2014 at 12:28 am

      Maybe it’s one of Obi Wan’s padowans, ala Asoka.

    • May 21, 2014 at 6:13 pm

      Ahsoka wasn’t Obi Wan’s padawan she was Anakin’s. but i realy would be interested in seeing more of her. Possibly as a member of the new Jedi council? as Luke’s 2nd or 3rd in command?

  • May 18, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    “Kenobi having a child illustrates that his beliefs in the Jedi Order were not strong, that he was just as prone to falling to the Dark Side as Anakin and that he was just as likely to form and hold onto attachments.”

    That is not Law of Non-attachment is supposed to work. At least not in accordance to Far Eastern spiritual philosophies, such as the different branches of Buddhism (Theravada, Tibetan and Zen Buddhism). And it is widely known that Lucas was heavily inspired by Buddhism for SW (words like Yoda, Dagobah, Anakin and Padmé all have their origins in Sanskrit; some of them even being sacred Buddhist terms).

    Attachment does lead to suffering. Because as these philosophies explain, everything is destined to perish. And so the day you lose someone you hold dear, you suffer. It’s that simple.

    Doesn’t mean you automatically have give into your deepest, darkest feelings, though (or in other words, that you will inevitably fall to the Dark Side). Furthermore, the Jedi didn’t forbid attachment only because it could lead to the Dark Side due to the suffering that you experience when someone close to you dies.

    Like any other Order of Knights in real life (the Templars, indeed) or in fantasy (see the King’s Guard or the Night’s Watch in A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones), members had to take vows of poverty, celibacy, etc. The idea here was that they would be totally devoted to their calling, their brethren and, in the case of spiritually-oriented Knights (aka, the Templars) to their beliefs.

    Hence, by breaking this Law, you lose your focus, which in this case should be to help protect and preserve peace and justice throughout the galaxy. Your loyalties became mixed and confused, as was the case with Anakin, who clearly ended up more devoted to his secret wife than to the Jedi Order and its precepts.

    Attachment also provided potential targets that your enemies could use against you (see Christopher Nolan’s Batman, who uses this very reason to justify his becoming a masked vigilante). This is because attachment does lead to suffering, as Yoda wisely put it, in case you lose folk you hold dear, especially as the result of your activities as a warrior/knight.

    In short, Lucas’ decision to have the Jedi forbidding attachment as part of their Code is not as simple as many folk would like to believe. It’s much deeper than that and since it makes sense from a historical perspective in our real world, I fail to see why that wouldn’t be the case in the SW galaxy, as well.

  • May 18, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    Obi-Wan having a Granddaughter or a daughter would screw everything up. Hope they’ll don’t do this.

    • May 18, 2014 at 11:13 pm

      ^ “Credit cards? You got it!” 😉

  • May 18, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    I don’t mind Obi-Wan having a child in some respect. It would be good for the narrative and theme of giving a f**k-you to the old jedi code and establishing that it really was full of faults. Not being able to love and have attachments being one of those huge faults. The whole argument that he shouldn’t have a child because it wouldn’t fit with the character and the jedi order is absolutely hystetical and you don’t know what you’re talking about. I mean didn’t you actually see star wars? The whole of star wars? You know, where the jedi order with thousands and thousands and thousands of jedi, yet it all fell to pieces. Yet in episodes 4, 5, and 6, you could only count the number of jedi on your hand, yet they won, because they used their brain and their heart. They weren’t calculating paranoid nuns like the prequels. Obi-wan knew that there was hope with Vader. obi-wan knew that training Luke to be a jedi would cause termoil in vader when they ultimately had to confront eachother. All this was because of love and attatchment. There’s a good arc there. He accepts the paranoid faults of the jedi order from the prequels that ultimately failed. He accepts that love is good and will conquer, and that love is indeed not a bad thing and should not be forbidden just because it could potentially be used against him. This is why he didn’t tell Luke that vader was his dad before he begun training or about Leia being his sister. Like what he says to Luke in episode 6 when everything is revealed to him. “Bury your feelings deep down Luke. They do you credit, but they could be made to serve the emperor.” He says it right there. In other words, keep your feelings and cherish them as they do you credit and do you good, but beware that the emperor could use those feelings against you. This is what is correct. He ultimately embraced the qualities of love. He was teaching Luke that love is good, but also warning him. He didn’t do what the prequels did which was just to forbid love altogether just in case. And he was right. Love ultimately won. Lukes attatchment and plea to Vader, causes Vaders attatchment to Luke to destroy the emperor. Obi-wan realising all of this is a good arc. Having a kid is perfectly fine. However it would be bad and taint Luke’s character in the originals, and it would also just be completely irrelivent to the story of episode 7 as it wouldn’t effect anything. I mean obi-wan is dead. His story has been told. Why go back when they can go forward? Luke having a child would make sense because Luke is alive so they can actually do things with it and it would be a plot device they can work with. But some girl who’s grandpa was some jedi called obi-wan who she never met has no effect on the plot at all so it would just be distracting and pointless. *ramble over*

  • May 18, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    Agree with everything I read here, except that it was made clear that Anakin got too attached to his wife instead of the Order. You can guess it from the moving pictures but it is never clear or believable.
    That was today’s dig at the prequels. As for offspring of Kenobi, I refuse to believe it. It’s as bad as having Anakin build Threepio.

  • May 18, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    I distinctly remember an interview where Lucas said the Jedi weren’t required to be strictly celebate. They just couldn’t form lasting attachments. The occasional one-night stand was apparently tolerated. Indeed, it could produce future recruits for the order.

    • May 18, 2014 at 9:54 pm

      cite the source please?

    • May 18, 2014 at 11:12 pm

      Wow, first the Jedi don’t free slaves. Now they have permission to use women and neglect their kids. WTF, Lucas… 0_o

    • May 19, 2014 at 3:22 am

      Depicting problems in the Jedi order does not equate to agreeing with them. The Jedi had problems. That’s why they lost. They acted incorrectly. They are peacekeepers who fought a war. They preach patience and then perform flip out ninja battles. The Jedi were dogmatic and blind. Maybe not always, but by the time if the prequels, certainly. Obi-Wan is a diehard. He believes the Order was something it wasn’t. They protected neither peace (Clone Wars) nor justice (slavery) because they were attached to The Republic and The Jedi Order.

  • May 18, 2014 at 7:08 pm

    While I hated but sort of liked the prequels I thought it was kinda cool that Anakin built 3PO.

    As for Kenobi offspring… no… just no. Perhaps adopted or something like that… but I guess we’ll see.

    • May 19, 2014 at 2:47 am

      Maybe this new actress is Obi Wan’s niece? Ever think of that guys?

  • May 18, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    First thought hell no. But if the story is good then I can live with obi1 offspring.. but it would change Things alot.

  • May 18, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    OH NO FOR THE LOVE OF STAR WARS PLEASE NO KENOBI OFFSPRING!!! If there is an offspring just let him have adopted someone. No Obi Wan finds a girl (doesn’t get married), the whole inappropriate shebang. No Obi Wan gets married and has a child. No Obi Wan finds tuskan girl. No Obi Wan and Satine have a kid. No Obi WanxRandom GirlxChild ANYTHING!!! That being said, I agree with a lot of the stuff said up there (especially the stuff about Obi Wan not being as true or whatever to the Jedi Order). An Obi Wan Kenobi child will just ruin things. A Kenobi child, meaning Obi Wan’s siblings, having a child seems more likely than a Obi Wan child. As for the 3 spin-offs I am game on Ewan Mcgregor returning to play Obi Wan! Btw, is it just me, or is it possible for Satine to be mispronounced as Satan? Slight LOL!

    God Bless and No Rude Replies Please

    P.s. I’m back and I’m still here! 😀

    • May 19, 2014 at 6:47 am

      There’s nothing ‘inappropriate’ about having a child and not getting married. Honestly, is this the 21st century or not? Someone was having a go at Katie Jarvis the other day on this very site for the same thing – apparently having a child without going through the ceremony of marriage makes her ‘inappropriate’ for a family film! FFS! We’re not all lunatic religious fundamentalists…

    • May 19, 2014 at 2:42 pm

      That’s NOT the point at all.

      Also, I saw the hate toward Jarvis and laughed it off as ridiculous.

    • May 19, 2014 at 3:57 pm

      Hi: glad i’m not the only one who thought those particular statements ludicrous. But if i can ask what you think the point being made IS, if not the very same? “Obi-Wan finds a girl (doesn’t get married) the whole ridiculous shebang” just comes off to me as the same thing. If i’m somehow misreading i’ll apologise of course, but i can’t see anything else being said there other than that interpretation.
      There does seem to be a weirdly Puritan streak in some sections of fandom for some reason, and i just don’t get it.

  • May 18, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    > Why did Obi-Wan fight Anakin? Why not join his side?

    Because he was evil and murdered younglings?

  • May 18, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    Easy way out: that the Jedi were not allowed to fall in love, have a spouse, have offspring etc. were just rules made by the Jedi council way back when. All Jedi trained at the academy had to take that oath etc. There was no Jedi council in the era of the original trilogy, so there was no council jurisdiction either. Therefore Ben was basically free to do what he wanted, as long as he was able to stay away from the dark side. Ronin Jedi… kinda.

  • May 18, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    In “A New Hope” Obi Wan tells Luke he was Once a Jedi Knight. He needed to pass on his bloodline. He could have easily renounced some Jedi rules and structure to allow him to “pass on what he has learned.” Besides, all the Jedi’s weakness’s had just been exposed by Palpatine. The Force really let Obi Wan down. And we already know he was strong enough to turn away from the dark side, and even de-limb the embodiment of it as his best friend. Lucas makes a strong point of showing guilt on Kenobi’s face several times after the fight and Padme’s death. Guess I’m rambling.

  • May 18, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    She’ll be a niece or something..

  • May 18, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    I call bullcrap on this rumor. This chick may very well end up playing a young Jedi, but not related to any other characters. We can’t have EVERYBODY be someone’s children from the OT. There are going to need to be some characters to bounce off of all of them. I buy that she’s cast, just not buying the Kenobi connection.

    Big Daddy Dave

    • May 18, 2014 at 11:10 pm

      That’s what I’m hoping for.

    • May 19, 2014 at 9:07 am

      It works both ways. As soon as it became clear that Mace Windu would be portrayed by an Afro-American actor, there were speculations that he would turn out to be Lando Calrissian’s father (only one black family in the galaxy, apparently!) No, everyone is not related to everyone else! The franchise has already strained credibility by involving BOTH of Luke/Leia’s parents in the creation of the Empire. (Amidala proposed the fatal vote of no confidence that removed Valorum and made Palpatine chancellor, and we all know what Anakin did …) Luckily Lucas did NOT use the planned idea that Palpy would declare himself Anakin’s “father” in some sense, which would make EVERYTHING family business …

  • May 18, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    It is a bit hard to ignore the deadbeat dad issue. Besides there being an 18 year gap in his story, Kenobi as a character has been played–A to Z. Both actors did brilliant jobs. Any Kenobi in the sequels should be an Ewan force ghost. He did tell Luke Yoda would always be with him as will I. No big deal to me if it’s just a relative. Hell, it might even be cool if the relative kept their last name a secret until a certain point in the story.

  • May 18, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    This is just disinformation….It would complicate things too much if it were true expect to hear a lot of this before 2015.

  • May 18, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    Maybe she could claim to be of Kenobi’s lineage, but be lying.

  • May 18, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    I’m against the idea of Ben Kenobi having offspring, not because I accept the dumb celibacy rule, but because it seems out of place considering how Luke was his sole focus in the OT, and he had lived alone as a hermit.

    Man, the more we explore the period between III and IV, the more Jedi seem to pop up!

    As far as attachment is concerned though, Obi-Wan was already attached to Anakin. He called him his brother. Had Obi-Wan been free from attachment here, he would’ve had the courage to end Anakin’s life on Mustafar and save so many lives across the galaxy.

    It doesn’t matter if Jedi disown their natural family if they make a new one from the members of the Jedi Order.

  • May 18, 2014 at 11:24 pm

    It may not be a direct descendant of Kenobi we don’t know where Ob1 came from maybe he has lots of relatives named kenobi that work at convenience stores and space banks and the galactic post office. They have dull lives and get drunk and have sex on weekends.
    After the fall of the republic one of them finds out that uncle/cousin/2nd cousin etc Ben was a Jedi and decides to follow old Ben on some damned fool adventure or just goes looking for him because he wants to fight the Empire and cousin Ben is the guy to see about that.

    The relative doesn’t have to be force sensitive but they would be a great macguffin for the plot as every one would just assume a Kenobi descendant would be direct from his loins and is force sensitive. But you don’t have to be a full blown Jedi to make people think you are one escpecially if your called Kenobi and have something to prove. kenobi decendant “I am not an ordinary convenience store clerk im a Jedi like my second cousin”
    boss “get back to work kenobi your nuthin and never will be…and stop taking all the space broom handles.

  • May 18, 2014 at 11:36 pm

    Star wars episode 7 -BeverlyHills 90210. 🙂 Why the fxxc don’t bring Palpatine’s nephiew, Panaka’ uncle and the grandchildren of Watto and Jabba’s kids? Don’t you see the absurdity of this? That’s pretty much the same what happened to PT. Nostalgáa is the somethink you have to use very carefýlly and in small dosis. If you don’ t believe me go see Desolation of Smaug. This small dosis of superninjacoolness of Legolas from LOTR will bore us anytime from now, having seen Smaug…..

  • May 19, 2014 at 12:07 am

    This is a total dork thinking, but since Vader doesn’t (so far) seem to be the one leading the search to kill the surviving Jedi, he might at least wallow in his new body and give the order to kill all members of Obi Wan’s family. Maybe the story could be…only one survived/escaped, and clearly does not use the name Kenobi any more. Then you have a somewhat mystery character with a tragic past and a legendary lineage they want to keep secret. Ahh, who cares, it’s just a stupid rumor. I have faith in the script.

    • May 19, 2014 at 7:40 am

      Still feels forced. Plus, Ben uses the last name “Kenobi” on Tatooine.

  • May 19, 2014 at 12:59 am

    LFL is likely playing mindtricks on the press with these Obi-Wan desecenant c***.

    This just to distract us from something else that will or won’t be in the movie.

    They know fans by enlarge will be very upset with this.

    • May 19, 2014 at 2:45 am

      Obi Wan having an African American granddaughter is as absurd as Spock the Vulcan having a romantic relationship with Uhuru. Oops, did the latter situation actually happen?

      Same director. Be scared guys. Be very scared.

    • May 19, 2014 at 7:38 am

      Why should we be scared again? ^_-

    • May 19, 2014 at 4:02 pm

      No idea, but i’m always baffled by this borderline racist hysteria. Also LOL at people constantly calling Boyega and Richardson-Sellers ‘African American’. Think i’ll start calling Ford and Fisher British just for balance…;)

  • May 19, 2014 at 1:52 am

    I agree that this is miss info….

    To render the OT “pointless” will not be done by Disney, as they are trying their hardest to bring back the best elements of the OT.

    As for the PT, Disney is not going to discard them. They’ve even said that all 6 films are apart of their “new canon” so I don’t see them going against them.

    All that being said…. makes me wonder about the ST “Skywalker”

  • May 19, 2014 at 2:23 am

    So I was thinking….

    There is of course the fact that Luke Skywalker was not taught the Jedi code at an early age. He had to learn all this later on in his life and was not taught by the conventional manner.

    He could have got his freak on with some woman (under the “new canon”) sometime between ANH & ROTJ.

    So…. There is a loop hole for him to have offspring.

  • May 19, 2014 at 3:23 am

    I find this so hard to believe.

    It sound like a plot from a long running series that has completely jumped the shark and is stretching for plots, not from a movie trying to re-establish itself and it’s future.

  • May 19, 2014 at 3:27 am

    Satine and Obi-Wan were never a couple, but Obi-Wan explains that they had a thing when he was a padawan protecting her. He tells her later he would have quit the Jedi if she had asked. She didn’t, he became a knight and took his vows. Transgressions before that aren’t transgressions.

    Anakin asks, “Did you two ever…” And Obi-Wan doesn’t answer, which means Yes. Satine isn’t about to tell him if they have a child, he’s already a knight.

    • May 21, 2014 at 6:22 pm

      I have often speculated about similar theory’s…

  • May 19, 2014 at 6:54 am

    Going purely by what’s on-screen canon (and trying very hard to ignore some of the dodgy racial, sexual and religious – based prejudices that some posters seem to sadly have), i think that there is a possibility of there being some truth to this. Simply because, if they’re going from Lucas’ original notes for the sequel trilogy, they’re going to have to come up with a replacement character for the twin sister of Luke (not Leia) who he was going to discover living on the other side of the galaxy in the ST. Maybe ‘Nellith Kenobi’ (for want of a better name) is the substitute?

  • May 19, 2014 at 7:12 am

    she is pretty. i like her already.

  • May 19, 2014 at 1:48 pm

    Obi Wan in ANH: “I was once a Jedi knight, the same as your father.”

    Who’s to say that he actually stuck chapter and verse to the Jedi Code after the Jedi Order was destroyed? Sounds to me as though he no longer considered himself a Jedi by the time his story picked back up in ANH. And he was familiar enough with Mos Eisley and that particular cantina that we can assume he’d not just been sitting in his hovel tugging thoughtfully at his beard for the past 20 years.

    Personally, I would rather they not continue the “What a small galaxy!” thing from the PT by having some heretofore unknown granddaughter of Obi Wan’s turn up in the ST. But I certainly wouldn’t see much of a continuity problem if they did go that direction. (Lazy writing, perhaps, but that’s another issue altogether.)

  • May 19, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    “That boy is our only hope”- Obi
    “No, there is another”- Yoda
    What he wasnt talking about Leia. Could this be who he was talking about?

  • May 20, 2014 at 4:59 am

    Luke ends up marrying and having a son in the EU.
    Maybe Kenobi tried to move on after the jedi purge or something…
    although really? Best leave his character alone and not ruin anything. 🙁

  • May 20, 2014 at 9:35 am

    Jedi are outlawed because of the horror of Anakin. Luke is supposedly dead with no offspring. A girl high up in the Republic arrives on Dagobah and meets a shadowy figure in the Cave. They battle…its Luke and his daughter who is hiding her abilities and her name from the world. When a Sith sniffs her out, he arranges a trap in front of the Royal gathering in which she must use the Force to save a dignitary. She is imprisoned and set for execution when Luke steps in to save her. Together, the old trio and new friends must uncover the new Sith while being hunted by the Republic they are trying to defend.

  • May 20, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    I would say that Obiwan having a child adds a while new dimension to the character. While I doubt that he fathered a child while he was part of the Jedi Order, but after it’s fall…

    “I was once a Jedi Knight, the same as your father.”

    That statement takes on a whole new meaning if he fathered a child on Tatooine. “Mos Eisley Spaceport; You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy”. I wonder how Ben came by that opinion. If he felt some mixed feelings, or even shame about visiting that port, that would contribute further to his isolation from both Luke, and the rest of Tatooine. He doesn’t even have to know about his child to carry some guilt over breaking his vows.

    If done right, it makes him a much more interesting and complex character, and a daughter whom he didn’t know about, but who spent her life trying to find her father, could be an incredibly cool addition to the universe.

    I look at the idea with guarded optimism.

  • May 21, 2014 at 10:47 pm

    Um… not sure what the author is thinking. Obi-Wan fought Anakin because he killed all the Jedi. It wasn’t some clash of ideals. Anakin clearly embraced his murderous dark side.

    Obi-wan clearly implies that he knew Anakin and Padme were in love to Mace Window – probably all the other jedi masters knew as well. They didn’t know that they were married and making babies, but they turned a blind eye to lots of things (as long as Anakin didn’t break his vows) because he was “the chosen one.”

    An Obi-Wan lovechild would not necessarily be out of character. After all, Obi-Wan admits that if Satine had asked, he would have left the jedi order for her. But it would be a very awkward retcon. Their story heavily implies that they never confessed their love.

  • December 13, 2014 at 8:29 am

    I don’t know why everyone thinks Ben would abide strictly by the old Jedi Code, considering how miserably it ended up failing the Old Republic. Granted, he still held on to some ideals that Luke ultimately proved were false, (i.e. Having no attachments) but we’ve got a former Jedi in a mainstream series everyone seems to love who isn’t abiding by that aspect of the code. Why wouldn’t/shouldn’t Ben? There’s no storytelling contrivance too far-fetched that doesn’t reasonably fit into.

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