George Lucas Lends Some Advice on the Set of Solo: A Star Wars Story

During an interview with Entertainment Weekly‘s Anthony Breznican, Ron Howard discussed some interesting details about Solo: A Star Wars Story. While the full article can be found here, there’s an interesting part where Howard talks about his friendship with George Lucas.

 

Howard said:

“He came by to visit the first day that I picked up shooting. George and his wife, Melody, came by to pay a little set visit. It made me feel great.”

 

Howard had previously worked with Lucas on American Graffiti and Willow, and greatly respects the man who created this universe we know and love. Lucas gave Howard some advice on the Solo set. According to Kathleen Kennedy, Lucas even gave a suggestion about Han in one scene in particular:

“He had intended to just kind of stop by and say hi, and he stayed five hours. There’s even one little moment in a scene that — I can’t tell you what, sorry — but in the scene on the Millennium Falcon where George said, ‘Why doesn’t Han just do this.’”

 

 

In essence, George Lucas sort of helped Ron Howard direct a scene in Solo. How cool is that! Kathleen Kennedy spoke on the scene saying “It actually is a funny little bit that will probably get a laugh”.

 

She went on to say, “And Ron happened to be by the monitor and not inside the Falcon and he goes, ‘Oh that’s a great idea,’ and ran in and said, ‘George wants us to do this.”

 

Like an older Han stepping back into the cockpit of the Falcon in The Force Awakens, it must have felt a bit like home for Lucas to offer his thoughts, however brief, in the making of Solo: A Star Wars Story. Seeing the character he created over 40 years ago (although with a different actor) must have been a great pleasure for Lucas.

 

Lucas had one final bit of advice for his longtime friend Ron Howard: “Just enjoy this.”

 

The full article can be found on Entertainment Weekly’s website right here.

 

 

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240 thoughts on “George Lucas Lends Some Advice on the Set of Solo: A Star Wars Story

  • February 10, 2018 at 12:21 am
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    In while the comments are 100% positive…

    • February 10, 2018 at 1:02 am
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      Re: “In while the comments are 100% positive…”

      Previously known as – “First Post“!

      • February 10, 2018 at 1:33 am
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        Lol gotta be fast these days. 😉

      • February 10, 2018 at 3:54 am
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        Ha! So, so true…

      • February 10, 2018 at 1:34 am
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        I’m thinking of making t-shirts “i was here before the trolls stormed the bridge”.

        • February 10, 2018 at 1:40 am
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          Surely people have plenty of reasons to dislike Lucas without having to be trolls. Surely you’ll give me that.

          • February 10, 2018 at 1:48 am
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            Fine, I’ll include a sticker set that you can stick over ‘Trolls’ that says ‘Rian haters’, ‘JJ haters’ and ‘Disney haters’. Customisation is fun…

          • February 10, 2018 at 2:00 am
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            Let us no forget “Lucas Apologists”. A classic never goes out of style…

          • February 10, 2018 at 12:20 pm
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            New wave fans amaze me, question the new kids on the block and you’re a hater. Go after the man who gave you the thing you profess to love and he’s fair game!
            — Not a jibe at you Mr Author, an observation

  • February 10, 2018 at 12:30 am
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    Can’t wait to try to spot his contribution. Awesome!

  • February 10, 2018 at 12:48 am
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    If I were Ron Howard I would simply be delighted to have Lucas’ greasy hands all over my film. Why George, weren’t you busy making those experimental films? We are still waiting, pointdexter.

    • February 10, 2018 at 12:15 pm
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      I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that GL didn’t just knock on the studio door one day out of the blue asking to be let in. Furthermore it’s much more likely that Ron Howard invited him down for the day, you know with them being mates, him being the creator of this whole thing and all 😀

      Also, those experimental films were, as I understand it, always destined to be private projects. So whose to say he hasn’t been tinkering in his garage?

  • February 10, 2018 at 12:50 am
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    John Williams composed a new theme, Harisson Ford met with Alden, and now George helped with a scene. Lots of unexpected outside help recently.

    • February 10, 2018 at 12:11 pm
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      All positive stuff.
      It’s becoming a tradition to look forward to what Lucas says about the new films. I have a suspicion that this one might lead to one of his more positive comments.

      • February 10, 2018 at 7:08 pm
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        Kind of like Groundhog Day, where we look forward to seeing the groundhog’s shadow?

        Lucas Day?

        • February 10, 2018 at 10:56 pm
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          You are spot on; the parallels are uncanny! One is a lumpy, hairy animal. The other is a groundhog.

  • February 10, 2018 at 1:15 am
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    I’m not sure if this is a common problem, but the date shown is Feb 10th not 9th.

    • February 10, 2018 at 7:07 pm
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      I think the site goes by European time.

  • February 10, 2018 at 1:22 am
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    So when Han Solo gets in a fridge to escape a blast from the Death Star you know whose idea it was.

    • February 10, 2018 at 3:05 am
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      A legitimately good comment.

  • February 10, 2018 at 1:43 am
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    Maybe he suggested something bantha-related.

    • February 10, 2018 at 8:55 am
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      Yes, something like…

      The ramp of the Falcon dramatically descends into the dust of the Kessel

      Our intrepid heroes disembark looking for adventure

      Alden perfectly delivers a pithy Kasdan line of dialogue

      Cue John Williams’ expertly crafted, Alden Solo theme music

      L3-37 steps off the ramp into a steaming pile of bantha poodoo

      • February 10, 2018 at 6:59 pm
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        I’d totally watch that. Seriously.

      • February 12, 2018 at 11:33 pm
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        A high pitched voice emerges from the mist, “Ohsa No! Meesa stepped in da poodoo too!” A shadowy figure emerges and lowers his hood, looking directly at the camera and breaking the fourth wall saying, “Meesa back!” The world weeps.

  • February 10, 2018 at 1:52 am
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    So much for security on the Solo set.

  • February 10, 2018 at 2:40 am
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    I’m not calling these people fans anymore, they’re just people. So these people were claiming, Lucas destroyed their childhood, same people now hatin’ on RJ,JJ, or whoever will come next and the same people now screaming: bring Lucas back.

    • February 10, 2018 at 7:57 am
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      At this point Lucas seems like the Rancor… about to be unleashed one more time.

      • February 10, 2018 at 9:13 am
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        More like a Worrt…you know, because of the hilarious belching noises it makes

    • February 10, 2018 at 12:07 pm
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      How do you know they are the same people? Some are, some are not.

      • February 10, 2018 at 4:10 pm
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        Because screen names stay the same?

    • February 10, 2018 at 5:45 pm
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      yeah, when Disney get sick of this disgusting people, as GL did, they’ll say “member disney?” member Rey, member Kylo

    • February 10, 2018 at 6:20 pm
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      Where do I fit in? I love the OT, I appreciate the prequels for what they do best which is worldbuilding, I loved TFA and R1 and I feel “meh” about TLJ. Still I would not mind having Lucas back at least for some input on the general direction of the ST.

      • February 10, 2018 at 6:38 pm
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        Wow, this is exactly where I’m at!

  • February 10, 2018 at 3:56 am
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    I’d like Lucas to do at least one last canon Star Wars movie…..

    • February 10, 2018 at 4:35 am
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      That would be pretty cool.

      Prepare for other posters to chastise you for daring to wish GL ever get involved with Star Wars again though. Apparently, he’s awful.

      • February 10, 2018 at 5:48 am
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        If Crystal Skull is any indication of quality, then yes. It would be so cool.

        • February 10, 2018 at 5:52 am
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          Crystal Skull was a miss. Lucas also didn’t direct that so whatever. The dude brought us Star Wars. I have no problem admitting he’s struck out numerous times, but I’d still watch something he’s involved in.

          • February 10, 2018 at 9:27 am
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            Didn’t direct it, didn’t write it…I lay a lot of the blame for that film not working as well as it might have on the ‘Berg, and the shitty Frankenscript Koepp was supposed to cobble together. Besides, Lucas’ misfires are still more interesting than 2/3 of the new regime’s ‘hits’ so far, and I firmly believe they’ll be talked about longer. That said I can’t imagine Lucas coming back to this franchise, and certainly not working under someone else. Maybe ‘story by’ at most, but even then, and yeah I’d be there for it too, nah, he’s done.

          • February 10, 2018 at 9:33 am
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            I think he would be a great addition to the story group and also as a consultant on the way world-building is handled, including creating lore.

            Script writing, pacing, humor, SJW commentary though… please keep him away from the heavy machinery

          • February 10, 2018 at 4:09 pm
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            Good to know you’re still completely full of shit.

          • February 10, 2018 at 3:59 pm
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            No, he didn’t direct it. He wrote it and executive produced it. And if you compare it to Spielberg’s other work and also compare to the Prequels, you can tell who was behind the creative decisions on it.

            Wasn’t a miss. Was garbage. Complete garbage. But I’m sure after 3 terrible movies and one alright film, he’d probably do okay now, right?

            I mean, his idea for VII was following a bunch of tweens and I’m sure everyone would have preferred that to Rey and Finn.

          • February 10, 2018 at 4:47 pm
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            Ahh American Ignorant, it’s good to have you back.

            So much disdain for everyone but yourself, the know it all attitude, the lack of ability to have a conversation without just stating your opinion without throwing someone under the bus. You’re a true staple to the SWNN community.

            *Insert insulting remark about GL and other poster here. Comment about how you are right and they are wrong. Something about drinking their tears of fanboy sorrow with a straw.*

            That pretty much covers your next reply, right?

          • February 10, 2018 at 6:20 pm
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            I do enjoy drinking fan boy tears. They’re delicious. And I have respect for folks all over these forums. Just not the asswipes who come to spread hate, anger, start shit and repeat the same comment over and over again in the process.

            You can like George Lucas. The prequels. Any movie you want. That’s opinion; can’t argue opinion.

            But when you start to make statements about how the prequels are great movies, or Lucas is some sort of genius. You stray into territory where I can argue what little supporting evidence these folks tend to provide.

            You just don’t like that I make you feel dumb. S’okay, you’re not the only one here to experience that treatment.

          • February 10, 2018 at 6:37 pm
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            LOL I do like George Lucas, and I do rather enjoy the prequels.

            When did I say the prequels were great? When did I say GL was a genius? He brought us Star Wars. That’s a fact. Not one you can argue or use psuedo facts to distort. Are there better directors? Absolutely. Better writers? Definitely. JJ, RJ, GE, and RH are all in the position to be a part of something special because GL created Star Wars. You don’t have to love the guy, but he deserves some credit.

            Forgetting to flush the toilet makes me feel stupid. Spending more than $6 at Taco Bell makes me feel stupid. Going out to my car without my keys makes me feel stupid.

            You just entertain me.

          • February 10, 2018 at 6:42 pm
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            GL does deserve credit. This is all bscause of him, his imagination and his passion for the story that drove him to risk personal financial ruin to get that first movie made.

            Just wish his storytelling and movie making skills matured along with his original audience

          • February 10, 2018 at 6:59 pm
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            Finally, someone with logic.

            George was the architect for the Star Wars Universe. Fans should laud his creativity, if nothing else.

            Totally agree with you there. I really did enjoy the PT. A decent amount of that probably has to do with the PT being my introduction to SW as a young kid. When you’re 7 years old, things like crappy dialogue, bad CGI, etc., don’t mean as much. Space ships and light saber fights won me over. However, as I’ve gotten older I’m more aware of this issues that bothered the more mature audience at the time.

            All of the new movies are better written and better directed. I think that would be a really hard point to debate. The PT connected more with a younger me though, and I’m fine with that.

          • February 10, 2018 at 8:43 pm
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            Yep. Where you were introduced to the verse makes a huge difference.

          • February 10, 2018 at 11:15 pm
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            Didn’t say anything about you and the prequels, but folks around here do. And that’s when I beat them upside the head with facts until they shut up.

            It’s not all about you, Yaddle. I don’t give a shit about you. I don’t usually reply to your comments because there’s no need to. I don’t find them interesting enough to engage in, and they’re usually not stupid enough to shred to pieces.

            But hey, don your white armor and ride to war against me. See how far it gets you.

          • February 10, 2018 at 11:26 pm
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            You do you man. To be honest, you seem well informed about what you talk about. Sometimes you come off as a prick though, and that’s when feel the need to comment. Obviously the mods agree. Keeping that white armor polished. Giddy up

          • February 11, 2018 at 1:31 am
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            I come off as a prick because I am a prick. My opinion of the mods here isn’t very high, so throwing them into the discussion does little for me.

            You’re always welcome to come at me, bro. Just don’t cry “You’re being mean!!!” if you want to start something.

          • February 11, 2018 at 2:18 am
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            But you love drinking those tears so much. 😉

          • February 11, 2018 at 9:52 pm
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            I will never deny that. Nor will I deny that I troll the feckless haters who can’t make an argument to save their lives.

          • February 11, 2018 at 10:01 pm
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            I’ll offer the olive branch here and admit that it can be somewhat entertaining to read your response to the people stating how Disney destroyed their childhood, RJ is talentless hack, etc.

          • February 12, 2018 at 12:32 am
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            Don’t have to offer an olive branch. Just step off my nuts. I don’t hold grudges.

            All sorts of people I’ve gotten into it with here who chilled out and then we converse like normal human beings.

          • February 12, 2018 at 12:49 am
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            I’ll call anyone out who uses puts down others when trying to get their point across, regardless of the substance to their argument.

            Regardless, we’re good man. I have absolutely no problem giving you credit for knowing your shit. That, at least, is better than a decent amount of posters on here can say haha

          • February 12, 2018 at 3:06 am
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            Purdy much. You’re welcome to come at me any time bro, just be ready.

    • February 10, 2018 at 8:57 am
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      Lords of Kobol…no!

    • February 10, 2018 at 10:11 am
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      I don’t know if I ever want him near the series again… yet I can’t help but find this entire article sort of neat. I mean what can a little advice on a scene hurt?

      *fast forward to ruined childhood* 😛

      • February 10, 2018 at 6:29 pm
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        I disagree. Like, go watch some of the fan-edits of the prequels, it really helps to highlight the good in them. And despite what the bad makes us think, there’s a fair amount of good.

        Let Lucas come back, but don’t give him full control. That was the problem with the prequels.

        • February 11, 2018 at 5:40 pm
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          I don’t get the “let” him come back. It implies the franchise was taken from him and now the fans and Disney are benevolent enough to offer him something. Lucas was the one to sell it and walk away. He could have made the Sequels and Solo however the he’ll he wanted but he made the decision to walk away. He’s a grown ass man and a billionaire. We don’t have to agree with his choice but lets not pretend he’s the victim here who needs a hand out.

    • February 10, 2018 at 11:10 am
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      Me too

    • February 10, 2018 at 11:32 am
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      You could always console yourself with “Strange Magic”. A lot of parallels and foreshadowing with the ST.

      https://youtu.be/YSrJiaZnPuU

    • February 10, 2018 at 5:43 pm
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      sad that the same noisy trolls made him get sick of SW

    • February 10, 2018 at 5:46 pm
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      I wouldn’t mind him having a creative input on one of the new series of films, perhaps just to help give it more of a sales pitch on being “Lucas’s vision”. Not sure LF would ever trust him having control of a Star Wars film anyway.

    • February 10, 2018 at 7:44 am
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      I like JJ’s work and I certainly have a soft spot for RJ, but when I read someone on the comment section defending The Amazing Lucas, after the countless times he has proven his painful, unmistakable incompetence… well, that really nukes the fridge for me.

      • February 10, 2018 at 8:14 am
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        Lucas “countlessly proving his incompetence” makes him more respectable to me, IMO. It tells us he’s fucking human. He’s had some dumb ideas, but it’s not like he ran for office *cough cough*. He had no intention for his scrappy little space story to singlehandedly change mainstream media culture as we knew it.

        He made mistakes. He was wrong a lot. Name a creature on this planet that’s any bloody different.

        • February 10, 2018 at 8:56 am
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          Fair enough. If only he acknowledged his human fallibility and refrained from sticking his nose in Ron Howard’s film, I would be kinder with my comments. I sincerely encourage him to try something new.

          • February 10, 2018 at 9:09 am
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            Exactly…these new directors are such Lucas fanboys that they are won’t see his meddling for what it is.

            Fortunately, Ron Howard is a seasoned director

    • February 10, 2018 at 9:05 am
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      lol I didn’t know this!

    • February 10, 2018 at 9:30 am
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      And the ‘Berg said he didn’t know why Lucas said that because it was him, but he suspected Lucas was taking the blame for him as a friend.

      • February 10, 2018 at 9:34 am
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        Not buying it. That kind of stupidity is a hell of a lot more plausible coming from Lucas than The Berg.

        • February 10, 2018 at 9:38 am
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          One day, I hope to read that Luke’s milking of the Thala-Siren cow thing in TLJ was also a Lucas special

    • February 10, 2018 at 5:54 am
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      LOL!

  • February 10, 2018 at 9:08 am
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    “Why doesn’t Han just shoot second?”

    • February 10, 2018 at 9:28 am
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      TLJ haters may not like what RJ did with Luke but this…the maker himself retconning one of the best character moments from the original Star Wars

      • February 10, 2018 at 10:24 am
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        One thing is retconning a small scene that doesn’t really bear any importance to the film. Another one is to completely screw up and shit all over the most important character of the series legacy. Yes there is a big difference.

        • February 10, 2018 at 2:33 pm
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          Please.

          In the actual movie Star Wars, Han just blew Greedo away. There was no shoot first, second or self defense. Alot is said about Han’s character in that one act. After the retcon, his strutting out of the Cantina looks ridiculous.

          In TLJ, I didn’t 100% like where they took Luke either, but there’s no denying that they made his character real and interesting. Shitting on his legacy though,?Total bullshit. Luke was always a one dimensional, whiny, somewhat poorly acted, emo passifist git. The turning of Vader was cool but the whole I love my dying, disfigured monster daddy never felt right. Mark got his best material and delivered in TLJ…stupid saber tossing and sea cow milking notwithstanding.

          Good news is, we don t have to agree!

        • February 10, 2018 at 4:02 pm
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          It makes Han’s turn to become a rebel less impressive.

        • February 10, 2018 at 4:09 pm
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          It doesn’t bear any importance to the film? It was how the character was INTRODUCED TO US.

          You need to stop talking. Seriously. You are embarrassing yourself on a daily if not bi-daily if not tri-daily if not quad-daily…sigh, pretty much every time you put words in the little white box and hit the “Post as young force” you are embarrassing yourself.

          Your children will see these posts. They’ll be disappointed.

          • February 10, 2018 at 4:15 pm
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            After frying Greedo, Han was like Dirty Harry to me. It was that kind of thing that made tribute character Malcom Reynolds so good in Firefly.

          • February 10, 2018 at 4:17 pm
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            Si.

    • February 10, 2018 at 10:52 pm
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      Why doesn’t Jabba enter the scene swinging on a vine with Salacious Crumb on his shoulder?

  • February 10, 2018 at 10:08 am
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    Article should be named: “Solo: a fourth director on board”

    • February 10, 2018 at 10:14 am
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      Solo: The Irony.

      Whatever makes it work. That’s all I want. Actually… whatever makes it work well.

    • February 10, 2018 at 11:08 pm
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      Solo: A Tale of Too Many Cooks

  • February 10, 2018 at 10:19 am
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    Come back George. Regardless of what everybody says about the Prequels. I love them. I miss your Star Wars handprint.

    • February 10, 2018 at 2:38 pm
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      Yes, his handprints are all over the crime scene that was the prequel trilogy (as well as parts of RoTJ).

      Thankfully George is no longer in charge of the franchise or involved in any significant capacity.

      Weesa free!!!

      • February 10, 2018 at 4:46 pm
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        Yes, we were all dying to see Luke do a Milk Commercial after 34 years! RJ is a great storyteller!

        • February 10, 2018 at 6:43 pm
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          No argument there. The parts Iof TLJ that I didn’t like all smelled of the PT…milking cows, porg humor, belching aliens, fathiers with human eyes and expressions, goofy can’t park here alien, pleasure barge aliens, BB8 the coinslinger, the 8 breasted alien (really all of Canto Bight), Maz mission briefing, the top of the at at coming off to reveal BB8 ugh

          Still, was better than PM and AoTC and a large part of Sith

          • February 10, 2018 at 8:15 pm
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            I’m looking big picture. Whatever you want to say about the PT, flaws in all, they are one narrative that are seamless. Meaning you can take them or leave them as most fans do.

            The problem with TLJ is now you have a split fanbase WITHIN the Trilogy. I know fans that hate TFA and love TLJ, then fans like me who love TFA and hate TLJ.

            That is why the PT will probably end up being better regarded because most fans enjoy the Trilogy for what it is or just ignore it cause they don’t like all 3. The ST is now a mixed bag to most, as I have watched TFA 20+ times, yet I still can’t muster to see the next movie in the Trilogy a second time.

            I think we all need therapy being a SW fan! Lol!

          • February 10, 2018 at 8:41 pm
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            Maybe. There’s no denying that George had a good, underlying backstory to tell in the PT. Very Rise and Fall of the Third Reich kind of stuff.

            Unfortunately, the great lore/complicated story and themes (like the fall of democracy) of the rise of Palpatine was marred for the older folks by the juvenile antics of some characters, acting and dialog. On the other hand, some younger viewers were bored waiting for the next fireball or goofy alien or droid as that subtle rise to power was too subtle, complex to follow and kinda boring. The Clone Wars helps me recall the PT era more fondly for sure.

            That said, I’m sure I’ll be watching them again like everyone else 🙂

      • February 10, 2018 at 9:02 pm
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        Then we should be glad that Disney is in charge now, shouldn’t we? They are creating masterpiece after masterpiece. Please!!! The prequels are great movies unlike this new sequel trilogy and Disney could benefit greatly from Lucas input.

      • February 10, 2018 at 11:04 pm
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        I just don’t understand why can’t The Lucas enjoy his money, his sweet retirement and his experimental films. Why so restless? It’s almost as if he still needed to prove a point… But which one? Which one indeed?

        • February 11, 2018 at 5:00 am
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          That’s inane. He stopped by the set to say ‘hi’ to a guy whose career as a director he helped get started, and who clearly has remained a friend.

          • February 11, 2018 at 11:31 am
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            Inane indeed! Like when The Lucas visited the set of Rogue One, told Gareth Edwards “don’t screw it up” and encouraged him to use more CGI; advice which the director reportedly “ignored”. Or like the time when he was invited to the set of TLJ, criticised the use of sets and was described as a “cranky guy” by production designer Rick Heinrichs. Or like when he dropped by the Gilmore Girls set and questioned camera angles, making director Nicole Holofcener feel, and I quote, “mortified”. Or when he criticised TFA for being “retro”, bitched all his ideas were dropped and called the guys who paid him $4 billion “white slavers”. Oh boy! He is such a kind, generous man… always full of advice. No wonder he has so many friends!

    • February 10, 2018 at 4:07 pm
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      Keep posting this over and over again. He will likely hear you and make a bid to Disney to re-purchase LFL and make new movies you want.

      I’ll keep a count of how many times you’ve repeated yourself (not counting every day since you’ve come to this forum) starting now.

      • February 10, 2018 at 9:04 pm
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        That means you like reading my posts!!!That’s great.

        • February 10, 2018 at 11:08 pm
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          No, I don’t. I’ll keep letting you know that until you can engage in some constructive discussion rather than incessant and pointless whining.

          • February 11, 2018 at 1:20 am
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            I’ve seen you comment so many times today and every single time you’re just starting shit. You must be desperately in need of attention.

          • February 11, 2018 at 1:30 am
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            Starting?

            No. Finishing and putting people in their place. But thanks for playing Chris. Got an opinion? Keep it to yourself.

          • February 11, 2018 at 3:19 am
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            Yeah my opinion is that you’re a shit starter looking for attention. Any time someone’s opinions don’t match up with yours you start shit. People are entitled to their opinion and they have a right to express it. You telling me to keep my opinion to myself shows that you don’t respect that other people may think differently than you. All you’re doing every time I see you comment is starting another argument. And just like you have a right to your opinion and to express it, I have a right to tell you that your opinion is bullshit, and so is every other word that trickles out of your mind and onto this forum.

          • February 11, 2018 at 9:52 pm
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            Nope. Maybe if you researched more carefully then trying to start shit with me you’d note that I don’t attack people for opinions.

            I come at people who try to misrepresent facts without any evidence to back them up.

            Just so you know, didn’t take the time to read the rest of your comment. You’re another useless white knighting waste of time. See ya!

          • February 12, 2018 at 1:06 am
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            And you’re a douche with no morals who should stay off the internet. Keyboard warrior.

          • February 12, 2018 at 3:06 am
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            Since we’ve never spoken, I’m going to have to guess that I said something you didn’t like and reinforced it fact that got you butt hurt.

            You don’t know me to say I don’t have any morals. You’re an over reactionary zealot trying to accomplish…what? Put me on block if you don’t like me, no one asked you to engage with me. I didn’t respond to any of your posts.

            Either because they were decent, or most likely, not worth responding to.

            I’m not very interested in speaking with, to, or down on the feeble minded.

            And that’s Keyboard Samurai to you, son. When I wage war here in the forums I do it with style and grace.

            Allow me to demonstrate.

            I will gift you the honor of falling on my sword to commit Keyboard Seppuku. ‘Cause you’re not very good at this.

    • February 10, 2018 at 5:41 pm
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      member Greedo, member cantina? member Luke vs Darth Vader?

  • February 10, 2018 at 3:14 pm
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    The Last Jedi makes the Prequels look like Godfather.

    • February 10, 2018 at 3:25 pm
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      The key to being a troll is to not be so obsured that you blow your cover. Honestly, what pleasure do you derive from intentionally tweaking other people?

      • February 10, 2018 at 3:26 pm
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        Did you mean to type “absurd”?

        • February 10, 2018 at 3:33 pm
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          Yes, Gideon, I did.

        • February 10, 2018 at 3:37 pm
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          Yes, Gideon, I did. See how good it feels to be constructive instead creating a toxic environment?

          • February 10, 2018 at 3:38 pm
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            Did you mean to double post?

          • February 10, 2018 at 3:44 pm
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            Yes, Gideon, I did. I posted a comment and then decided to amend it. Instead of using the edit feature as I did to correct the earlier typo I deleted the comment and reposted with an added question. If you refresh the page you should see the original comment is no longer present.

          • February 10, 2018 at 4:42 pm
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            Do you mean to be banned from the comments section? Your current substanceless posting will get you just that. Please refrain non constructive commentary. Thank you.

            The comments section on the blog is intended to be a place for any and all Star Wars fans to share their thoughts and opinions in a respectful environment. While everyone is free to share, certain behaviors will not be tolerated. Any inappropriate comments or personal attacks, especially those concerning a person’s ethnicity or gender will be deleted. Commenters who choose to violate this policy risk being banned from future discussions.

      • February 10, 2018 at 3:47 pm
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        How is that a troll comment because a lot of fans feel the PT is better then TLJ. It’s just an opinion as nobody is right or wrong.

        This is what annoys me about TLJ defenders is they call out the fans who continue to whine about the movie yet they will bury the PT ANY chance they get. Don’t you see the irony?

        • February 10, 2018 at 3:57 pm
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          Anyone with a basic understanding of filmmaking, the craft of acting, the writing of screenplays can sense the obvious inferiority of the prequels to anything the sequels have produced. You may hate the story and the whole direction the sequels have taken, but to suggest they are worse made films than the first two prequels is laughable.

          • February 10, 2018 at 4:10 pm
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            Yes 100%

          • February 10, 2018 at 4:16 pm
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            I like TFA and R1 more then the PT, so I’m not lumping in all Disney SW movies. In fact TFA is my favorite SW movie since ESB.

        • February 10, 2018 at 4:05 pm
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          People can like PT more than TLJ. That’s opinion.

          But to say the movie is inferior in terms of quality, presentation, script, and Direction actually goes beyond opinion and enters the world of facts.

          Rian Johnson’s work in TLJ make the Prequels look like they were done as if they were a Paint by Number project from a kindergartner.

          • February 10, 2018 at 4:11 pm
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            In the run up to TLJ my kids wanted to do the full marathon…even they now agree that the next marathon starts at Rogue 1

          • February 10, 2018 at 4:17 pm
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            LOL. From the mouths of babes.

        • February 10, 2018 at 4:14 pm
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          As someone who thoroughly enjoys the prequels I’ll say that The Last Jedi is objectively better than any of those earlier films. It’s better directed, there’s better acting, it’s paced better, the main characters’ motivations are clearer and more logical, the dialogue is better, and the cinematography is better. These are all quantifiable elements of filmmaking. Any informed viewer would be able to say TLJ excels in these areas in relation to the prequels.

          If the prequels play to someone’s particular sensibilities and they enjoyed them more than TLJ that is completely legitimate and I wouldn’t deny them that fact. To state as a fact that The Last Jedi is of a low enough quality to make the prequels look like The Godfather is so ridiculous that it reveals the author’s comments to be disingenuous at worst and completely ill informed at best. Given that this particular commenter has a history of comments aimed at getting a rise out of people I proclaim him to be a troll.

          • February 10, 2018 at 4:32 pm
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            I rate TLJ and the PT:

            Acting: TLJ is better, Adam Driver is
            great in this Trilogy.

            Story: The PT is a more interesting story then the ST so far as it tells 2 stories at once: The rise of Palpatine and the downfall of Anakin. The ST story is all over the place essentially because you have 2 different visions.

            Humor: TLJ and PT humor are both horrendous and shoehorned in. Both try too hard and both fail

            Cinematography: I will always take real locations over CGI, so I would give the slight edge to TLJ.

            How does it fit with the Saga? This is where the PT blows away TLJ and the ST. The PT enriches the OT and the story of 1-6 works in a narrative sense. The ST feels tacked on and I don’t know after Episode 9 that you we will be able to watch 1-9 and see a continuous narrative. I hope but I’m not counting on it.

        • February 10, 2018 at 4:32 pm
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          It can be perceived as a troll comment as:

          1. The article has nothing to do with The Last Jedi
          2. The Godfather comparison has been used to illicit a negative response

      • February 10, 2018 at 4:04 pm
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        He’s not a troll. He’s serious. Just block him. he ain’t worth the time.

        • February 10, 2018 at 6:07 pm
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          It would be pretty interesting to see how many of these people have been here before. A disproportionate number of the whiners have really low post counts. I pretty much assume it’s the same ones – they just change their account every so often.

          • February 10, 2018 at 6:15 pm
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            After the release of every SW movie there is a rise of new members int his forum and over at the cantina. Discrediting all of them as whiners is a baseless assumption. I could just as easily make the point, that those who loved the movie and have low post counts are fanboys with multiple accounts. I say this as someone who though TLJ was pretty mediocre but nowhere near a really terrible movie.

          • February 10, 2018 at 6:48 pm
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            Thank you for pointing out the silent majority. Forum posts and social media are not accurate places to gauge movies due to as you stated: A majority of people who do not respond in comparison to voluntary response bias of those who are vocal.

            From what I have gathered, the movie is divisive. Very divisive. I know one person who enjoyed the movie and I know another who didn’t enjoy it. And while I know this is an anecdote but really I don’t think it is safe to call TLJ’s overall response good or bad.

            It’s mixed. That said, I have noticed both sides who do this: put forth labels, shift the goalpost and really allow their egos to get the better of them.

            That said, I think one fact can be gleamed from TLJ: the honeymoon is over. And Solo; could be the tipping point to where if it is received poorly, then the brand could be in trouble.

            Or it could be great? We’ll have to wait and see. 🙂

          • February 10, 2018 at 6:57 pm
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            I dunno, look at the MCU. Hulk came out and sucked. Thor came out to a “meh”. Iron Man 2 came out to a “BURN IT TO THE GROUND”. Then Avengers happened and all was good and right again.

          • February 10, 2018 at 7:16 pm
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            Ironman 2 is a movie I don’t hate, but I’m not going to call great. It’s an example of Marvel putting the cart before the horse and really paying for it. Hulk, I thought was okay but not terrible.

            If anything, I see The Last Jedi being kind of similar to Iron man 3 in that it was a polarizing movie to where most of the general audience and critics loved it, but fans were split. And my hope is that LucasFilm will actually follow in Marvel’s tracks and actually take a middle path when rectifying this.

            In other words, keep the consequences of The Last Jedi but also make some changes. Because that to me would be a braver choice as it would show “Yeah, we may have gone a bit too far, but we’re going to throw those people a bone.”

          • February 10, 2018 at 6:57 pm
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            Exactly. Theoretically, it would only take one comment to state your like/dislike for a movie and then you’re done with it. You voiced your oppinion and that’s it. However, the avid haters and fanboys can only truly enjoy hating/loving a movie based on the knowledge that their strong reaction is shared by the rest of the community. In order to get their satisfaction they need others to validate their oppinion. However, the problem is that most viewers don’t feel so strongly about TLJ one way or another. And thus the haters and fanboys repeat their message over and over in hopes of making more balanced reviewers resonate as fanatically as they themselves do.

          • February 10, 2018 at 7:09 pm
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            Excellent distillation and analysis. And the way you put it, it honestly reminds me a lot of organized religion and making arguments to gain the most support. Tribalism at its worst. It is why I am comfortable affirming that I was disappointed in TLJ.

            It’s just my view and by no means would I ever discourage people from not liking it. Feel however you want about the movie. Just engage in healthy discourse. It is why I really don’t like posting on the Cantina forums anymore.

            There’s always someone who will get offended and in turn go off on me. And why when i do find rational, pleasant individuals to discuss SWs; I very much treasure them, like yourself. For they are like water in an endless desert. They are rare and precious.

          • February 10, 2018 at 7:29 pm
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            “I know one person who enjoyed the movie and I know another who didn’t
            enjoy it. And while I know this is an anecdote but really I don’t
            think it is safe to call TLJ’s overall response good or bad”
            While this is anecdotal evidence, it’s similar to many other posts that I have read from people and also my own personal anecdotal evidence.

          • February 10, 2018 at 11:21 pm
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            “Discrediting all of them as whiners is a baseless assumption.”

            I never said that all of them were. And even if I did, it wouldn’t baseless because I read the posts on this forum and…well…most of them are little more than whiners.

            Keep in mind that I’m differentiating trollish whiners from those with articulate and reasonable issues with something like TLJ.

          • February 10, 2018 at 11:32 pm
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            Well I can imagine that you regard some posts as whining which are perfectly fine to other users. Anecdotal evidence isn’t worth much when discussing the opinion of millions of viewers.

          • February 11, 2018 at 4:32 pm
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            Of course I am. I’m viewing things from my perspective. As you view things from yours.

            And I’m not talking about millions of viewers. I’m talking about the folks that visit this forum.

          • February 10, 2018 at 6:16 pm
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            Alot of them are regulars.

            Some just show up around the time of a new film then fade off.

          • February 10, 2018 at 11:25 pm
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            The problem is that now we have a new film every 3 months! They never fade off! Arrrrrrrrrrgh!!!

          • February 11, 2018 at 1:32 am
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            This is a special time yes, but then we’ll have a long period without a film and everything else is in development so most of the rainy day haters will leave for quite a while.

        • February 10, 2018 at 9:41 pm
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          Who blocks people in a Star Wars forum? Grow some balls, Nancy. There’s no crying in baseball and no blocking in Star Wars forum.

      • February 10, 2018 at 4:08 pm
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        lol

      • February 10, 2018 at 6:05 pm
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        Ha! Very true…

    • February 10, 2018 at 5:40 pm
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      Almost everybody loved TLJ – just look at any site with a trustful method of research (that exclude tomatometer, in witch one can vote hundreds of times). But the AlQuaeda like fans are much noisier. South park made an entire season on trolls, as they “member” things.

      • February 10, 2018 at 6:10 pm
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        http://www.allocine.fr/film/fichefilm_gen_cfilm=215099.html

        This is a Europe wide rating. 2,9/5 is far away from “love” and Europe is the biggest market for movies next to China and the US. As you can see most people do not hate TLJ but very few actually love it. It’s mediocre and the ratings reflect that just as much as the modest BO (for a Disney SW movie that is). Stop trying to push agendas and discredit everyone as a troll who does not love the movie.

        • February 10, 2018 at 7:02 pm
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          “Stop trying to push agendas and discredit everyone as a troll who does not love the movie.”

          Marginalization of critics is tactic #1 in the TLJ gushers playbook.

          Senor Obras comparing the haters to Al Queda was original though. So he deserves credit for being creative.

          • February 10, 2018 at 7:10 pm
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            It might be creative but it immediately disqualifies him from a civilized discussion. If you compare the haters of a movie to a bunch of murdering terrorists then I can’t take your argument seriously. Also, the marginalization directly contradicts the mediocre box office that took analysts by surprise… Senor Obras might want get off his high horse and take a look at the numbers.

          • February 11, 2018 at 8:12 pm
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            The critics loved it. 91% positive reviews.

        • February 10, 2018 at 9:12 pm
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          wikipedia: On review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, Star Wars: The Last Jedi has an approval rating of 91% based on 361 reviews, with an average rating of 8.1/10. The website’s critical consensus reads, “Star Wars: The Last Jedi honors the saga’s rich legacy while adding some surprising twists—and delivering all the emotion-rich action fans could hope for.”[123] On Metacritic, the film has a weighted average score of 85 out of 100, based on 56 critics, indicating “universal acclaim”.[124] While both sites showed positive reception from critics, they also showed negative reception from fans. Rotten Tomatoes audience score is 48%, the lowest of any theatrically released live-action Star Wars film[125]. On Metacritic, the user score is 4.5/10, also the lowest of any theatrically released live-action Star Wars film.[126] Audiences polled by CinemaScore gave the film an average grade of “A” on an A+ to F scale,[108] while ComScore reported audiences gave an 89% overall positive score and a 79% definite recommend.[107] An audience poll of U.S. adults conducted by SurveyMonkey on the first four days of release found that, out of all the respondents who said they had seen the film, 89% said they either “loved” or “liked” it.[127]

          • February 10, 2018 at 9:44 pm
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            You know what else gets an A on cinemascore? Pretty much every god damn movie. Even “Boo! A Madea Halloween 2” got an A- there, the average rating in December was B+!. As for the rest we know critics loved it but the fans were divided and they are what counts on the long run. They are also buying most of the tickets and guess what, the ticket-sales dropped rapidly after word of mouth got out that the movie is indeed far from perfect. The BO is mediocre, the ratings are mediocre (given the massive IP bonus), the buzz on social media and message boards is mediocre. What more do you need to see that the movie is “just” okay.

          • February 10, 2018 at 9:50 pm
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            Yes, but none of them is more useless than tomatometer audience score, that permits “fans” like BobRoss and Mr Real Fan , that seems to be allert day and night, stay voting one star 360 hours nonstop, because they are SURE they are completely right and have always an reply,

          • February 10, 2018 at 10:04 pm
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            My first reply is that I have never in my whole life rated a movie on rotten tomatoes. I don’t feel strongly enough for this movie one way or another to go through the trouble of creating an RT account. My second reply is that your conspiracy theories about trolls downvoting movies takes way more imagination than mediocre movie results in mediocre ratings, mediocre boxoffice and mediocre reactions on social media.

          • February 10, 2018 at 10:56 pm
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            the radicals live in a parallel universe and deny reality, that’s why they scare me

          • February 10, 2018 at 11:13 pm
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            So you are scared of yourself? 😀

          • February 10, 2018 at 11:27 pm
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            That was an awesome Yoda move right there! Pity you got the grammar right. 😛

          • February 11, 2018 at 11:29 am
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            Yes, I see so many retardeds here, and I thinK; I’m I as retarded as these people and didn’t notice before? Why so many retardeds come to SW site? Am I also a retarded?

          • February 11, 2018 at 5:04 pm
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            Well you probably wouldn’t want to hear the answer to your question 😉

          • February 11, 2018 at 12:53 am
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            At face value, 1.3 billion is impressive. When you subtract production and global marketing costs however, it doesn’t look so rosy.

            Take the energy company Chevron for example. When oil prices were $40 a barrel a year ago, even though their revenue was over 100 billion dollars (that’s 100X TLJ), they were actually losing money!

            And don’t even get me started on adjusting for inflation…

          • February 15, 2018 at 3:04 pm
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            hahah so desperate.

          • February 11, 2018 at 4:08 pm
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            TRANSFORMERS!

      • February 10, 2018 at 6:32 pm
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        ha ha ha

      • February 10, 2018 at 6:47 pm
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        What the fuck are you doing? Don’t go comparing a bunch of disappointed fans and moviegoers to a terror group responsible for the actual deaths of thousands of people and catalyzing a devastating war, please.

        • February 10, 2018 at 9:21 pm
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          In history, all the actual civilizations were at one point or another into a devastating war and were responsible for thousands of deaths. BUT, that wasn’t the point of the comparison. I compare the blind radicalism that leads people to do crazy things as organize themselves to impose their opinion and come running answer every line in favour of something. I can’t write one line in favour of TLJ that one of the 0,01% of the radicas is right there to answer. That scares me. They give zillion of repeated one stars at tomatometer, print and expose everywhere, because they are against the “technocracy”of disney or some other communist talk– this is almost a war tactic of a group of trolls to troll. Hope they stay just in the troll level.

    • February 10, 2018 at 6:56 pm
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      True that

    • February 10, 2018 at 9:07 pm
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      Well-said!!!

  • February 10, 2018 at 5:20 pm
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    Georgie, you left us with technocrats and bankers !!

    • February 10, 2018 at 5:47 pm
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      hope the radicals that took the site don’t kidnap an airplane and throw it at Cinderella Castle

  • February 10, 2018 at 6:04 pm
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    hope the radicals-trolls-just plain whiny retardads- that took this site as tomatometer don’t hijack an airplane and throw it at Cinderella Castle, after all they are equaly extremists against “technocrats”

  • February 10, 2018 at 6:25 pm
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    Good. I’m happy George still gets to be a part of Star Wars however small it is. I hope he comes to give jj some tips on episode 9 too

  • February 10, 2018 at 6:41 pm
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    I have a fun question to ask everyone: Do you think George Lucas hates SWs? More specifically, SWs fans? I ask this because I know GL is a complicated man. He’s displayed quite a bit of odiousness throughout his time. I mean just look at his refusal to release the original cuts.

    But really, after the PT and hearing the groaning from fans; I’d like to think he’d want to wash his hands clean from it. I know he sold LF to Disney precisely because he wanted to protect his employees and donated a majority of those funds for charity; which is cool.

    Overall, I’m curious to hear your thoughts on Lucas. Because, to be honest; while I disapprove of some of the stuff he has done; I do think SWs in many ways broke him. Unless, someone can prove me wrong which I am more than happy to listen.

    • February 10, 2018 at 6:47 pm
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      I wouldn’t be surprised if he is taking some satisfaction from the crap sandwiches KK and RJ are being fed by the fans…particularly the rabid haters.

      The criticism he got during the PT era was somewhat deserved…it would have been even harder on him had the internet been where it is today

      • February 10, 2018 at 6:57 pm
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        Yeah, I could see him deserving some of the criticism of the PT era. I don’t hate the prequels, but I don’t like them. Revenge of the Sith is the only movie that I genuinely love and even I acknowledge it has loads of issues.

        The thing that made me roll my eyes at the criticism was when people said George Lucas ruined my childhood or the bullying of Jake Lloyd as Anakin. I mean really? Ruining childhood.

        I get people are upset and especially now with The Last Jed. But really, if these movies are that bad, then I really do question these people.

        I can only speak for myself, but much as I was disappointed by The Last Jedi; I’m not bitter about it. I acknowledged it happened and choose to treasure what SWs has given me.

        Namely, the OT, PT and the loads of Legends content out there which I find more appealing. And that’s just me. And truly, I believe if fans focus more on the positive, rather than the negative; things would be fine.

        That isn’t me saying you shouldn’t have serious discussions. Voice opinions and debate, but always keep in mind that differing views on something aren’t a bad thing.

        As for the Internet, yeah; I can see your point on that.

        • February 10, 2018 at 8:30 pm
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          I put “ruining my childhood” in the same category as “ruining the franchise” and “total disrespect” type comments we’ve been seeing since December. The bullying of Jake Lloyd was shameful…the kid did what he was asked to do.

          These are just movies. I feel like William Shatner on SNL…”it’s just a show, move out of your parents’ basement!” There is a lack of perspective and a crazy sense of entitlement in the fanbase, especially where personal expectations/theories/fantasies aren’t being fulfilled on screen. I mean come on…”in my head canon TLJ doesn’t exist.” WTF, the story is owned by the owner of the IP.

          I didn’t like the PT because Lucas wanted to tell a kids story to an older fanbase. That and his overuse of CGI which just wasn’t all the way there. The underlying lore was great. I still went to the movies, still talked to other fans about them, watched the Clone Wars etc. If this environment existed back then though… I wonder if Disney would have been interested in reviving the property. Glad they did.

          • February 10, 2018 at 9:42 pm
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            I can understand how you feel. I’m more mixed on TLJ/ disappointed. I don’t think it killed the franchise or something like that. But for me; I’m not excited at all for anything ST related. I still love SWs but what LF has done during this new era I find is really mixed/ mediocre movie-wise.

            It is why I personally see the Sequel Trilogy as a what if situation. That’s my choice and I don’t expect people to agree nor should they. Like what you like and dislike what you like. There’s nothing wrong with that. Just don’t be a D-bag or an odious prick.

            But I am hopeful that the next trilogy will be a lot better for someone like myself.

            As for fan entitlement, to a degree I see it. From both sides: defenders and proponents. It depends on who. I try not to lump people on sides and judge their views and arguments on an individual level and a case by case basis. For real, I know people who enjoy the ST and give good reasons and vice versa for the opposite.

            That said, a good valid argument I have heard against the ST which I agree is the lack of consistency between movies. I truly believe that Abrams should have directed all those movies. And note I am not an Abrams fan, but I know realistically it would have helped. And really, my hope is that Rian Johnson going forward takes all the constructive(keyword) criticism levied at him when crafting his new trilogy.

            The Prequels, I argue were a case of Lucas’ ego getting out of hand. The concept and storyline is actually really cool. I just wished he could have gotten someone else to write it. Heck, he went to multiple directors, like Ron Howard to ask to direct but turned him down. Oh well.

          • February 11, 2018 at 9:13 am
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            Good points. I’m hoping that the ST will be more fondly remebered on the whole once there is a complete story over a finished trilogy.

            The PT did benefit from an overall narrative thread that spanned the movies and appeared to be well thought out in advance. I like less the movie-by-movie story approach. It’s the kind of thing you do when you’re not sure there will be a sequel.

          • February 12, 2018 at 12:53 am
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            I hope so too for the ST. 🙂 The movie by movie approach is what the solo, anthology films should be. The saga films, in my view, have their own unique flow and ebb to them.

            The OT when you strip away all what we know; is mythology in space. King arthur in space with simple, yet deep themes. Growing up, adulthood, being a good person.

            The hero’s journey personified. To use a comparison, The anthology films should very much be windows to the SWs universe; perspectives and concepts not bogged down by the saga.

            For example, imagine an ocean’s eleven hesit film set in the SWs mythos? A bunch of bounty hunters and smugglers, perhaps needing to steel from say, Black Sun?

            That could be awesome. If anything, SWs should have looked at Marvel’s style of having the solo, genre films in tandem with the big traditional superhero movies, and borrowed from that.

            Not completely. Twist it around. Because, SWs as a universe I argue you can do so much with it.

      • February 10, 2018 at 8:17 pm
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        There is a lot of good stuff in those films, but yeah, some cringeworthy stuff as well that ruin the moment.

        • February 10, 2018 at 8:50 pm
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          There is actually a great story there and some of it IS well done. I’ve always tought that a retelling of the PT in a trilogy of books would be really good if told from the perspective or perspectives of other character(s).

          • February 10, 2018 at 9:21 pm
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            Those cringeworthy love scenes are certainly easier on the eye on paper, despite the lack of Padme in certain revealing outfits – lol

    • February 10, 2018 at 6:54 pm
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      I think he’s a regular dude who had a neat idea, had the stubbornness and determination to give it life, and had no way of predicting, handling or even understanding that it would go on to singlehandedly change the core of mainstream media as we knew it.

      He was a celebrity overnight through no fault of his own. So he kept doing what he wanted to do.

      Then people started not liking what he was doing, his creations stopped being his and started belonging to the fans,and he wasn’t able to cope with that very well. The fame got to his head, he made some new movies without any involvement from anyone else (which, despite popular belief, are NOT the single worst pieces of media ever shat out, let’s be reasonable beings here), and then fell into this pit of “stupidest man alive”.

      But he doesn’t deserve the shit he gets. Though he also shouldn’t have gotten the enormous praise he got in the 80s. He’s a dude doing what he loved, and that ended up making him popular. I think a lot of people can relate to that, especially those that can’t cope with the downsides of fame very well, like Phil Fish.

      • February 11, 2018 at 2:28 am
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        absolutely agree with you

    • February 10, 2018 at 7:28 pm
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      I’m sure he loves it at times and hates it at others. Its the equivalent of typecasting an actor. Obviously he has an incredible passion for it but for him it was a job where for the hardcore fans it became an obsession.

      • February 10, 2018 at 7:59 pm
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        There’s this video where he steps outside a restaurant or something, suddenly people are swarming around him from everywhere, asking for autographs and such. In that video you actually here GL commenting something like “too bad most of these autographs will be sold of for money”.

    • February 10, 2018 at 8:14 pm
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      I think he probably still loves the Star Wars universe he created, but is tired of some of its fans. Who can blame him. I’m not a fan of all the changes he did to the OT for the special editions, but the continued moaning about it simply doesn’t help and more than likely pushed him into a corner.

      Would love to have a chat with him over a beer/coffee.

      • February 10, 2018 at 8:52 pm
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        He would have saved himself a LOT of grief if he allowed the non-SE versions of those films to be released

        • February 10, 2018 at 9:20 pm
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          True – but the damage had been done. Didn’t he make the changes after the PT? At that point he’s focused upon his vision and his vision only.

          • February 11, 2018 at 1:16 am
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            Yes, but during the decade + that followed…

          • February 11, 2018 at 10:42 am
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            Like I said, think the damage was done, he focused on his vision. He went a bit over the top on the changes, but why would he do an original release for the fans whom not long ago were having a go about the PT. Most likely there was over the top remarks on the SE, so again he’s going to be backed into a corner and not give what the fans are moaning for. Honestly I can’t blame him.

          • February 12, 2018 at 2:40 am
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            No. The Special Editions were released before The Phantom Menace. He did, however, subsequently supervise some additional changes for the later Blu-Ray editions of the OT during the post-Phantom Menace era…

          • February 12, 2018 at 7:19 pm
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            Was the majority of the changes that griped the fans before or after the TPM?

            From what I can tell 1997 was one of the main periods, probably ready for the PT release, so did that damage the viewing of the PT?

          • February 12, 2018 at 8:38 pm
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            The majority of the changes that disheartened many of the fans were implemented before the release of TPM, these consisting mainly of the alterations to A New Hope. Without looking it up, I am uncertain when the Special Edition of Return of the Jedi was released. It would seemingly have to have been after Episode 2 at the very least, if not Episode 3, since Hayden Christensen was inserted into the ending of ROTJ, and one would presume that Christensen was not even cast until some period of time after the release of TPM…

          • February 13, 2018 at 3:24 am
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            I thought the Hayden Christensen thing wasn’t until the 2012ish Blu-ray 6-movie set, but I googled it just now and it was 2004. Time flies…

          • February 12, 2018 at 8:44 pm
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            The majority of the changes that disheartened many of the fans were
            implemented before the release of TPM with the original DVD Special Editions, these consisting mainly of the alterations to A New Hope.

            I believe Hayden Christensen was not inserted into the ending of ROTJ until the subsequent Blu-Ray Special Editions a few years later, since one would presume that Christensen was not even cast for Episode 2 until some period of time after the release of TPM (thus an even longer period of time after the original DVD Special Editions)…

          • February 12, 2018 at 9:25 pm
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            Cheers for the info.

            At a guess then I would assume Lucas was more focused as an artist on his vision than any concerns for the fans. Though possibly fan reaction to the changes made him more stubborn in the development of the PT and then it became a viscous circle between him and the fans.

            I would still say as it was his property at the time he had every right to make the changes he felt it required as an artist, but then on the flip-side once its released the fans have every right to share their feelings.

          • February 13, 2018 at 7:31 am
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            Some of the special effects artists for Star Wars 1977 were academy
            award nominated for their stellar model work. Portions of this very same footage they were nominated for, constituting a part of cinematic history, were subsequently replaced by newly rendered CGI shots for the Special Edition.

            Also the tie-fighter sequence that was so masterfully edited by Marsha Lucas in 1977, was re-edited by Lucas for the Special Edition to accommodate CGI replacement shots and other alterations, completely throwing off the flawless pacing of the original sequence. Some of the alterations in the Special Editions almost appear to have been done by Lucas to eliminate as much of the footprints of Marsha Lucas and Gary Kurtz as he could get away with.

            At the very least, the exquisite model effects work of hundreds of talented technicians and industry giants such as Dennis Muren should never have been removed and/or altered without preserving the original footage on HD home video formats for posterity.

            Especially coming from an artist who actively campaigned against colorization in the 1980’s, claiming the original vision of the filmmakers needed to be preserved in perpetuity. Film-making is a collaborative process, and Lucas is no David Lynch. To toss out the award nominated effects work of so many talented technicians and artisans without preserving and remastering the unaltered versions virtually constituted a crime against those artists and a deliberate perversion of cinematic history.

            Read “The Secret History of Star Wars” as well as the book by Dale Pollock (Skywalking: The Life And Films Of George Lucas) and Cinefantastique Vol. 28, Number 8…

          • February 16, 2018 at 10:35 am
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            There are cases of artists have moments of madness, for whatever reason. We don’t really know his feelings or reasons, and I’m not agreeing with all his changes because some are awful. However, end of the day to me they are just films and don’t deserves the amount of hate they receive.

            Somethings are more important in life – IMO

    • February 10, 2018 at 11:33 pm
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      I suspect he is a bit like Cartman: Full of himself when things go his way, resentful at everyone when they don’t.

      • February 11, 2018 at 3:49 am
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        That’s they case with ANYONE.

        • February 11, 2018 at 7:40 am
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          Really?

    • February 11, 2018 at 1:08 am
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      He showed up to the 40th Anniversary….. and seemed genuinely happy and grateful

    • February 11, 2018 at 5:07 am
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      I feel the only true bitter action he took was the what he did to the originals. He wont admit (that I’m aware of) that it was a mistake and that he contradicted his own stance about the purity of film and preserving it for history.

      Still he’s human. Being bitter about something or angry isn’t unique to us. He has a right to it whether I agree with it or not. I would have hoped cooler heads would have prevailed and in a way they did. He decided… to hell with it. Let it live on, giving it another chance to with someone else.

      That’s huge. Especially for someone like him. He lived and breathed it the majority of his life… and he gave it away. That’s a close to an apology than we’ll ever get.

    • February 13, 2018 at 3:20 am
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      I kinda thought he just felt browbeaten by the fans. There was an interview he gave sometime where he said something about all the flack he’s taken about changes and I felt that he came across as somewhat exhausted by it all. But then who knows? I mean, other than GL himself.

      Just for the record; I grew up with the original movies, but I had no problem with the changes except the Han shooting first thing, but it’s like 2 seconds in the movie and I’m not thinking about it by the time we’re in the next scene.

  • February 10, 2018 at 6:58 pm
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    I really suspect you will be right. It’s just that, and please excuse me, I see the words “Lucas” and “director” in the same sentence and I freak out a-la Luke at the end of Empire.

  • February 10, 2018 at 7:19 pm
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    I have no doubt it was.
    I also think you’re probably being a bit cynical regarding this being a marketing tactic, Lucas is known to have visited all the Disney productions. There’s also a section of ‘fandom’ that are put off by any mention of his involvement as he somehow built up their childhoods then ruthlessly tore them down during the early naughties. The vitriolic hatred aimed at him is much more venomous than that RJ is experiencing for TLJ.
    I don’t regard you as a troll 🙂

    • February 10, 2018 at 8:34 pm
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      Always a pleasure talking to you sir! I wish we could all bridge our passions and differences with the same mutual respect. Let’s hope for an awesome Solo film: I’m still quite pumped up! 🙂

  • February 10, 2018 at 7:25 pm
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    I see this more about Ron Howard than Star Wars. I don’t imagine this would have happened if Lord and Miller had remained as directors.

    • February 10, 2018 at 11:12 pm
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      I can imagine the headlines: Lord and miller call security to remove disturbed man on flannel shirt off set.

      • February 11, 2018 at 2:25 am
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        True !!!!!

  • February 10, 2018 at 7:33 pm
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    Nothing wrong with George Lucas. He made a big contribution to the world. He does a lot if charity, gave us Starwars, started the biggest FX company. I have troubles with these stupid fans debating this to death. Maybe they should do something more meaningfull in life instead of bitching at others.

  • February 10, 2018 at 9:27 pm
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    Slower. Less intense.

    (That’s actually my advice to this ever-increasingly hostile forum.)

  • February 11, 2018 at 1:00 am
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    Disney should call George up and ask him how to make a Star Wars film. Because obviously they don’t understand. Their efforts have been superficial ones. That on the surface look like Star Wars, but once you get a little deeper you realize there’s nothing their.

    • February 11, 2018 at 2:15 am
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      Honestly, George would not be good for Star Wars at this point. I don’t want to see films with Kids as the lead characters, nor do I want to see the CGI-overdose that George now lusts for.

      I love what George did with the OT — but his more recent efforts such as the Prequels and Indiana Jones 5 were head-shaking embarrassing and have aged TERRIBLY.

      I do think that JJ and Kasdan created the most “authentically SW” film in the recent era with TFA.

      • February 11, 2018 at 2:53 am
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        The Prequels were bad, no doubt, but they still had some legit Star Wars magic sprinkled in there.

        with the exception of Vader’s scenes in R1, I haven’t felt that way about anything Disney’s done thusfar. None of them contained any memorable scenes.

        • February 11, 2018 at 9:05 am
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          I like the idea, if not for the same reasons. GL would be a worthy addition to the story group/creative consultant. He can’t be faulted for his vision and world-building.

      • February 11, 2018 at 3:48 am
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        Actually, George would be good for Star Wars at this point, seeing that the new films are devoid of anything new and original.

        • February 11, 2018 at 9:03 am
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          Dude you really need some new material. The trolling is better if you don’t just cut and paste

      • February 11, 2018 at 5:02 am
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        To be fair I don’t think a kid in the narrative is a problem. Look at Leon the Professional or even Stranger Things and It. Heck even Logan. Done right… a young padawan and his master could be quite interesting. As of yet we’ve not seen Jedi or the master padawan represented all that well. You’d have to go to the CGI Clone Wars for a taste but there’s still real ground to cover.

    • February 15, 2018 at 3:04 pm
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      Wrong

  • February 11, 2018 at 1:25 am
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    lol

  • February 11, 2018 at 2:08 am
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    George Lucas on the Han Solo Set: “This scene would be great, but needs more CGI creatures running randomly through the background. And can get more spaceships flying by in the skyline. More CGI, now please.”

    • February 11, 2018 at 3:46 am
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      Sounds better than the recent creatively bankrupt Star Wars films from Disney.

      • February 13, 2018 at 6:20 pm
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        no it doesn’t

  • February 11, 2018 at 2:32 am
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    Always is useful a suggestion from Han’s father

  • February 11, 2018 at 4:24 am
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    I’m still hoping he would be willing to return and direct his own anthology film.

  • February 11, 2018 at 5:17 am
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    When you come back to the comments section after only a handful of hours to “9+ Notifications”. Yikes. What did I do THIS time.

  • February 11, 2018 at 1:02 pm
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    We need new GL movies, something fresh and exciting like SW was when it first came out, revolutionizing the film industry
    George, if your reading this, its time to get the band back together.
    If you make it, we will come

    • February 11, 2018 at 8:11 pm
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      Nothing he has come up with in the last 30 years has been remotely good. His time has long passed.

    • February 12, 2018 at 9:25 pm
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      Nothing wrong with GL, but I think he does his best work when people are around him who can tell him ‘no’. That simply won’t happen to him anymore.

  • February 11, 2018 at 1:41 pm
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    I love this story!

  • February 11, 2018 at 6:16 pm
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    cool!

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