THR on Rogue One Reshoots and Tony Gilroy

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The Rogue One re-shoot has been one of the hottest topics of discussion in Star Wars fan circles in recent months. The diagnosis has ranged anywhere from “end of the world” to minor retooling of characters. The truth, most times, seems to fall somewhere between the extremes.

 

 

Even as recently as Monday, Deadline’s Mike Fleming made a passing comment in a broader piece that made it seem as if there were problems between Lucasfilm and director Gareth Edwards.

 

Even the big tent poles are fraught with uncertainty; they keep news about Star Wars locked up like Fort Knox, but I heard on those Rogue One re-shoots, it was Tony Gilroy behind the camera and not Gareth Edwards.

 

But today, The Hollywood Reporter is taking a more subdued tone in their assessment of how things are proceeding on the first standalone Star Wars film. According to THR, the re-shoots were a total of five weeks which aligns with the recent comments from Mads Mikkelsen on the progression of the new filming. THR also mentions that Tony Gilroy, director of Michael Clayton and The Bourne Legacy, is heavily involved in the process as has been reported before.

 

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Tony Gilroy

 

According to THR, Gillroy is serving both as an uncredited writer on the film as well as supervising the post production process. But Gareth Edwards is also still very much involved.

 

There are not two separate editing rooms; they are all in there with their ideas,” says one source close to the production. “Tony’s a strong force, but they’re all working together.

 

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Gilroy, according to THR, has relationships on both sides here having worked with Kathleen Kennedy’s husband Frank Marshall on the Bourne films and having previously helped Edwards on Godzilla. So, THR is painting this as a collaborative effort as opposed to Lucasfilm taking the film away from Edwards in post. Whether that’s the true story or just some optimistic spin, we may never know. But as THR points out, Rogue One isn’t alone in Star Wars history in having a dramatic path to theaters.

 

In fact, the movie follows Star Wars’ long and storied history of dramatic productions. The original film’s Cantina scene, where Han Solo faces off with Greedo, was completely revamped during re-shoots. Empire Strikes Back’s shoot went so off-schedule and so overbudget that creator George Lucas fired Gary Kurtz, his producer on Star Wars and American Graffiti. And for Return of the Jedi, Lucas installed Richard Marquand as director but actually supervised swaths of the shooting himself.

 

With so much riding on this first “Star Wars Story” having multiple sets of eyes put this together is likely a good thing as long it is collaborative and not combative. Hopefully it results in an engaging and well paced action addition to the franchise.

 

For the whole piece, head to THR to check it out.

 

This article also matches well with what EW reported back in June.

 

 

And if you’re not familiar with Tony Gilroy, here’s a nice screenwriters lecture he did back in 2014:

 

 

 

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52 thoughts on “THR on Rogue One Reshoots and Tony Gilroy

  • August 3, 2016 at 6:56 pm
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    Staying optimistic, but there’s a lot of cooks in the kitchen and that generally means that there are problems.

    • August 4, 2016 at 7:24 am
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      There are two chefs. Gareth and Tony.

      • August 4, 2016 at 6:02 pm
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        You really think it was Gareth’s idea to add Tony? Sounds like a decision made by another chef to me.

        • August 5, 2016 at 2:12 am
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          Oh I forgot Kathy, so three chefs.

  • August 3, 2016 at 7:02 pm
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    I’m still not worried in the least. It seems like the more these sites give attention to the reshoots and the more they dwell on it more it sounds like a lot of hype surrounding a lot of nonsense.

  • August 3, 2016 at 7:25 pm
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    I’m worried. Going all the way back to Kennedy hiring Witta and then Edwards. With it being based on a story by John Knoll, plus footage that is no great shakes. Yeah, I’m damn worried.

  • August 3, 2016 at 7:39 pm
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    Oh, boy… no wonder we haven’t seen a trailer yet.

    • August 3, 2016 at 7:44 pm
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      this

    • August 3, 2016 at 8:59 pm
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      Doubtful. Even if a large chunk of the movie were reshot, it’s not like it’d be hard to cobble together a couple minutes of footage for a teaser. More likely they’re sticking to TFA marketing strategy. First real teaser in April. BTS reel in July. Full trailer in October. Volumes of tv spots thereafter.

    • August 3, 2016 at 10:10 pm
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      Just like with TFA last year, don’t expect another until Oct.

  • August 3, 2016 at 7:47 pm
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    I wish they would let Gareth do what he wants with the movie.

    • August 3, 2016 at 8:16 pm
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      Are you serious?

      • August 3, 2016 at 9:22 pm
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        Well it would certainly mean a more cohesive vision. I don’t care if the current movie doesn’t suit the Disney executives’ vision. I’d rather discover the movie as Edwards wanted to make it in the first place. I stay optimistic though.

      • August 3, 2016 at 9:58 pm
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        Yep, movies used to be about filmmakers; now, as with most popular art forms, are dictated by executives and marketing research firms. I’d rather have a personal vision of the director even if it’s not all that good (cough PT cough) than what a corporation found out that people want throughout a survey.

    • August 3, 2016 at 9:26 pm
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      And what if Gareth isn’t happy with the movie and welcomed the assistance? I doubt it’s a coincidence Gilroy was chosen. Gareth’s collaborated with him in the past.

      • August 3, 2016 at 9:35 pm
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        I mean yeah, if Gareth was with them on deciding and thought he needed help, sure.
        But if someone higher up meddled with Gareth’s vision to get something else, that’s not so good.

        • August 4, 2016 at 12:52 am
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          Unless the vision wasn’t very good or clear. Visually, Godzilla was incredible. But character, plot wise… not so much. We all pretty much said that at the time it came out so this tells me that plot/character wise… Tony Gilroy is going to really help out in these aspects and Gareth gets a great change to learn from him for his next movies.

      • August 3, 2016 at 10:50 pm
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        Could be anything really. What if Gareth was upset but asked for Gilroy because at least he worked with him before.

    • August 4, 2016 at 12:51 am
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      These have been collaborative efforts from the start. I’m sure Gareth welcomes any advise to make the best possible SW movie he can. His career is riding on it, and it’s his name on the billboard as the director. You assume he is some kind of ego maniac who doesn’t want to can’t listen to any advise. This is unique film they are making – a stand-alone SW movie and one without input from the creator George Lucas (presumably) so they want to get it right.
      Also, as a filmmaker – it’s a collaborative process. it’s never just the director’s vision, it all starts with a script (of which we know many writers were involved in shaping the store). Further, Gareth being a new director is probably enjoying all the advise he can get as he moves forward in his career.

  • August 3, 2016 at 8:37 pm
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    Yup. Too many cooks spoil the broth.

  • August 3, 2016 at 8:47 pm
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    Execs trying to force things into the film that makes them think EVERYONE will love it.

    The cook analogy is fitting. It’s like a great chef fixing a dish, and then someone else wants to add fish to please the fish eaters, and then another person wants to throw ice cream on top of the fish to please the ice cream crowd. Doesn’t take long to end up with a plate of crap.

    While I still think it’s gonna be a good movie, they should have let the director do his thing.

  • August 3, 2016 at 10:00 pm
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    This worries me… I would like to think that Disney wants it to be perfect so maybe thats a good thing. However why sign off on a script if it wasnt ready or perfect…

    Cant wait to see the new scene where they added Tony Stark in to tell the Empire that he was no longer building weapons— oh wait wrong Disney franchise…

    • August 3, 2016 at 10:48 pm
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      It shouldn’t be too surprising. The makers of Force Awakens were happy to get extra time to rewrite some stuff and work with chemistry with Ford’s injury. Seemed like they were writing on the fly. Stuff happens a lot. Bringing a different director though, that is a bit different but apparently becoming more common unfortunately.

  • August 3, 2016 at 10:08 pm
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    So far we’ve seen clips with Felicity Jones having a stream of blood from her nose (when fighting stormtroopers), and a bloody brow (when talking to Forest Whitaker). Disney doesn’t like blood, that was probably re-shot. It’s also probably indicative of the tone they didn’t like. Probably.

    • August 3, 2016 at 11:31 pm
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      And yet they let Kylo Ren punch his side in and bleed out all over the ground, and they also let Finn get blood smeared all across his helmet?

      I doubt they care too much about blood.

    • August 4, 2016 at 12:23 am
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      BASELESS INTERNET SPECULATION

    • August 4, 2016 at 12:25 am
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      Neh

  • August 3, 2016 at 10:17 pm
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    Oh, man! Everybody read this article THR article about Suicide Squad, just substitute with R1: It has the same situations: An inexperienced director, a pushy studio, the stress to meet a set release date, a screen-test, a demand for more fun from the studio execs, and an alternate edit by an outside firm, (with a John Gilroy!) I detect a pattern here: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/suicide-squads-secret-drama-rushed-916693

    • August 3, 2016 at 10:42 pm
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      I wouldn’t call David Ayer an inexperienced director. Having done work with small and big productions with major stars in Harsh Times, Street Kings, Fury, End of Watch, and Sabotage over the last 11 years. I would just call his work mostly mediocre which is what resulted with Suicide Squad. Yet another mediocre production of David Ayer.

      Edit: Though I suppose he hadn’t made a summer block buster type film before, he still had experience working with major Hollywood Stars and some big movies like Fury. More than Edwards anyway.

    • August 3, 2016 at 11:28 pm
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      Different studio, different track record though.

    • August 4, 2016 at 12:22 am
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      It’s not the same.

    • August 4, 2016 at 12:57 am
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      Fuck DC.

    • August 4, 2016 at 7:21 am
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      1. David Ayer is experienced, more so than Gareth Edwards, but experienced directors don’t necessarily mean better quality movies.

      2. Disney is anything but a pushy studio, if anything they let their studios have too much free reign. Which I don’t think is a bad thing. When was the last time you heard Alan Horn or Bob Iger publicly announce that they were unhappy with what their studios were doing and they need to change? Good luck trying to find much evidence of this, and why isn’t there any evidence because they don’t push their vision on their studios.

      3. Every movie has a schedule and stress to meet a release date, that’s why they are made by professional studios.

      4. Almost all movies have screen tests too.

      5. The studio execs eg. Kathleen Kennedy, are the ones in charge it’s their job to ensure quality and make sure it can be as good as it can be.

      6. This is hardly the first time a movie has hired or requested help from another source. These articles are stating that Tony Gilroy was brought in to help in the editing with Gareth Edwards so it’s not like he just took over and pushed Gareth out.

    • August 4, 2016 at 1:19 pm
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      You totally forgot to mention that the sky is falling, too!

  • August 3, 2016 at 11:13 pm
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    I wouldn’t say i’m cautiously optimistic at this point. More like optimistically cautious.

  • August 3, 2016 at 11:28 pm
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    I’m totally fine with these films getting multiple passes by different people. Whatever gets us a decent movie is fine by me. We all know the dangers of a singular vision…

    • August 4, 2016 at 1:26 am
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      *cough* George *cough*

      • August 4, 2016 at 2:01 am
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        Yeah, thankfully THAT hack was never allowed control over anything ever, amiright?

        • August 4, 2016 at 1:22 pm
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          He’s almost entirely responsible for the Star Wars fanbase being devisively split due to the choices he made in the prequels.

          Far from a hack. Could still have used some input.

          • August 4, 2016 at 8:07 pm
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            With JJ Abrams , the SW fanbase isn’t split, it’s simply gone

          • August 4, 2016 at 10:43 pm
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            Which is why the Star wars brand is stronger than it’s ever been, and why the Star Wars IP literally brings in billions of dollars every year.

            Okay.

          • August 5, 2016 at 3:19 am
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            He is a true and proper Troll TUD. Don’t bother.

          • August 5, 2016 at 3:18 am
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            LOL.
            You’re the Donald Trump of these forums Plat.
            Seriously.
            LOL.

        • August 5, 2016 at 5:43 pm
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          How much control did he really have over ANH, though?

          Marcia Lucas & the Oscar-winning editing team (suggesting Obi-Wan should die and re-editing the trench run), Kurtz (distilled the Force into a simpler concept), Coppola (made Lucas’ hands bleeding rewriting the script 1000039829292 times), DePalma’s infamous smackdown (he basically wrote the opening crawl)…compare that team to Rick MacCullum & Co.

  • August 4, 2016 at 12:48 am
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    Totally ok with this. It’s like a writer’s room in TV where they are all working together to make the best product possible. This isn’t at all like a big studio meddling with a film. Lucasfilm is more independent minded and is basically calling the shots here, similar to Marvel or Pixar.

  • August 4, 2016 at 4:46 pm
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    I’m not worried. Quite the opposite. I think this shows Lucasfilm wants the end product be the best it can. What’s wrong in bringing in some help, if that’s what you need to ensure quality?

    • August 4, 2016 at 11:36 pm
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      That’s the the spirit.

  • August 4, 2016 at 8:39 pm
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    just hoping that they get it right…it should end with the blast door being opened by the stormtroopers from their perspective and you see Vader walk through…from behind!

    • August 5, 2016 at 3:21 am
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      Rumor has it that part of the reshoot was to link it directly to ANH.

      This would be epic.

      • August 5, 2016 at 3:46 am
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        Absolutely!

  • August 5, 2016 at 12:18 am
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    I cannot believe Gareth Edwards would be as engaged and enthusiastic as he was at Celebration if he was being sidelined against his will.

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