Star Wars: The Force Awakens Halloween Costumes Hint at Character Backgrounds and Potential Story Developments?
Officially licensed costumes and props based on Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens have arrived. But more interesting than the appearances of the items is what the official descriptions reveal and imply…
Potential spoilers ahead!
Let’s start off with a small bit about Anakin Skywalker (Darth Vader) and Luke Skywalker before getting into the new cast:
- Wield the weapon from the Republic’s destroyer and its savior! Both Anakin and Luke Skywalker battled with a blue lightsaber. Star Wars Anakin/Luke Skywalker Blue Lightsaber is based on that “elegant weapon,” as Obi-Wan Kenobi called it. The blade lights up and extends to 3 feet in length, telescoping down into the handle when not in use. As a young padawan, Anakin Skywalker wielded a blue lightsaber that he crafted himself, and the weapon served him through many adventures. After he turned to the Dark Side, Anakin — now Darth Vader — fought his former master Obi-Wan and was nearly destroyed. Obi-Wan then took the blue lightsaber and saved it until the day that he could present it to Anakin’s son, Luke, when the two met on Tatooine. From that moment on, Luke kept this lightsaber. It was the weapon he used in training with Obi-Wan and Yoda, when battling Jabba the Hut [sic], and later when he fought Darth Vader at Cloud City. In that struggle, Luke lost both his hand and the blue lightsaber when it tumbled away and fell into a maintenance shaft. No matter which Jedi knight you choose to be, the blue lightsaber, carried by heroes in a galaxy long ago and far away, is a weapon you can be proud to own!
I’m only mentioning this here because of our exclusive Bespin flashback scoop we mentioned a while back (found here, and discussed in more detail on our podcast). It’s not an accident that they’re pushing to sell this specific lightsaber. Plus, we already know that Finn will wield the very same weapon as revealed in the Instagram footage, so it’s interesting to see that the description highlighted that the lightsaber is something that belongs to several generations of heroes.
Speaking of Finn, there’s some information about him from his costume:
- Sometimes, heroes come from the unlikeliest of places. The Galactic Empire has been dead for decades, but evil never really dies. With villains rising to take the Empire’s place, heroes must rise to oppose them. After becoming stranded by himself in the deserts of Jakku, and meeting up with a girl named Rey, a Stormtrooper named Finn has joined the side of the Resistance. He began his adventure as a part of the New Order, but now he’s one of the few people that can stop them. With a new look, Finn is ready for a new mission. Since trading in his Stormtrooper armor for a new set of gear, Finn’s outfit might not be flashy, but it’s all that a hero needs to succeed.
- The perfect rebel accessory. Finn, one of the newest characters in Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens, is a rogue Stormtrooper who teams up with Rey and the rest of the rebellion to fight against the First Order. A must for any awesome rebel fighter is, of course, an awesome weapon. Enter Finn’s Blaster. When you dress up as the Stormtrooper-turned-rebel this Halloween, make sure you don’t forget to accessorize your costume with this must-have weapon.
Rey was also the subject of a number of interesting details:
- The mission to take down the First Order is underway! After invading the Starkiller Base, one member of the Resistance has split from her group and found herself in a massive room full of First Order soldiers. Completely surrounded by Stormtroopers with blasters and Knights of Ren with lightsabers, she seems to be totally outnumbered. Unfortunately for her enemies, though, they’ve made a big mistake: it’s not about the strength of the weapon, but the strength of the warrior that wields it. Begin your Star Wars adventure as a character beginning her own. Rey is one of the new heroes making her Star Wars debut in Episode VII: The Force Awakens. After growing up with a simple life on the remote desert planet Jakku, and meeting up with a former Stormtrooper named Finn, she suddenly finds herself as part of the Resistance, the organization trying to save the galaxy from the villainous First Order.
- A new rebel! One of the new characters in Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens, Rey fights against the First Order with fellow rebels Poe and Finn, along with beloved characters from the classic Star Wars films. She makes her home on the barren desert planet of Jakku, which looks very similar to Tattooine. Living inside a non-functioning Imperial AT-AT, Rey is a scavenger and knows how to fend for herself. Become ReyIf your rebellious little girl wants to dress up as Rey for Halloween, or the premier of the newest Star Wars movie, then this is the costume for her. While she may not need to camouflage herself in the desert to hide from Stormtroopers, Captain Phasma, or Kylo Ren, this neutral colored costume is perfect for blending in. Once she has her costume, accessorize it with the matching headpiece with mask and staff weapon.
- Watch as The Force Awakens in a new hero. It’s been 30 years since the Galactic Empire crumbled, but new threats and enemies of the galaxy have taken its place. Among the new Resistance that has arisen to combat this evil is a young girl from the lonely desert planet Jakku. Her name is Rey, and she’s one of the best chances that the galaxy has to take down the New Order.
Kylo Ren had a lot of individual products based on him, and had many details of note:
- There has been an awakening in the Force. One man, standing by himself in a snowy forest clearing, can feel it. The Force, and the powers of its Dark Side, are welling up within his body. He draws his lightsaber, and three red blades extend from the handle, ready for battle. From behind a shroud of black robes, beneath a shadowy mask, Kylo Ren knows that the Knights of Ren are one step closer to completing their mission. Join the ranks of the Knights of Ren. Kylo Ren and the rest of his fellow knights serve the First Order and support their ultimate goal: to take over the entire galaxy, using the same power of the Force once used by the Galactic Empire. Since the Empire’s been gone for thirty years, that power is up for grabs – but the Resistance would rather see that it’s kept out of the hands of darkness. When you dress up with Star Wars costumes on Halloween, this is just one of the stories from Episode VII: The Force Awakens that can inspire your imagination.
- An action-packed Star Wars scene begins. On a desolate battlefield, the forces of the evil Knights of Ren and the heroic Resistance have finally met. Warriors on both sides have drawn their blasters and the colored beams of their lightsabers, waiting to attack. When Kylo Ren raises his hand, covered by a long, black glove, the Knights charge into battle.
- The awakening of the Force points towards trouble. Before a climactic and action-filled Star Wars scene commences, everything stands still. The Knights of Ren and the Resistance have met each other, face-to-face. Red and blue light sabers are drawn, awaiting their wielders’ next moves. Finally, Kylo Ren’s black, gloved hand signals an attack on the Resistance forces ahead, and the battle is underway.
- The coolest lightsaber ever made. Ever since Jedi and Sith first crossed blades in the original Star Wars movie from 1977, the lightsaber has been one of the most iconic movie weapons and props in all of sci-fi. In Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens, it’s all about the Resistance and the First Order, but lightsabers are still the weapon of choice. The crossguarded, broadsword lightsaber design, wielded by the villainous Kylo Ren, has made quite the impact with fans. Now, you can get that power, too. A blade as dangerous as Kylo Ren himself. It’s fitting that the most ominous looking villain of Star Wars VII had to create his own custom lightsaber. Nothing else in the galaxy was threatening enough. As a member of the Knights of Ren, Kylo Ren is associate of the First Order – the evil organization trying to take over the galaxy after the fall of the Empire. When he’s geared up with his black and silver helmet, flowing robes, and three-bladed lightsaber, he’s as imposing as any Star Wars villain ever.
- The dawn of new Star Wars fans. Vader. Maul. Fett. All of these names have been classic Star Wars villains for decades, each with equally iconic costumes. Now it’s your child’s turn to learn and grow up with new favorite characters of their own. With Episode VII: The Force Awakens comes the dawn of a new trilogy, and Kylo Ren is one of the villains in line to inherit the prowess of his predecessors.
Gain the power that can control the galaxy. That’s the goal of Kylo and the Knights of Ren, too: to seek the galaxies-conquering powers once held by Emperor Palpatine and the Galactic Empire. The Rebel Alliance foiled that evil quest, but Kylo Ren will ensure that the Resistance does not follow suit. - As The Force Awakens, will you choose the Dark Side? The countless galaxies in the Star Wars universe have lain dormant for decades, since the fall of the Galactic Empire. Now, in Star Wars Episode VII, the Force – the darkness, and the light – has reawakened. Heroes are scrambling to claim the powers for good, but many would rather use them for evil. The Knights of Ren are calling your name. Kylo Ren is just one of the names that belong to The Knights of Ren, an army of the dark side that craves to reclaim its lost power. Allied with the First Order, it’s their mission to take down the Resistance and anything else that stands in their way.
Captain Phasma, likewise, had a few details worth mentioning:
- Is it a Stormtrooper? Is It a Flametrooper? No! It’s Captain Phasma! While Captain Phasma’s glistening silver and black helmet may resemble that of a Stormtrooper, Flametrooper, or even infamous intergalactic bad guy Darth Vader, she is definitely her own kind of villain. Among other things, Phasma is separated from her evil counterparts by one very distinct fact – she’s a girl!
- Are you ready to join the dark side? From behind a suit of silver armor and a reflective, mirrored mask, the captain inspects a unit of Stormtroopers before battle. The Resistance must be brought to its knees, so that the First Order may reign supreme over the galaxy. Villains like Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine have ruled in the past, but in Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens, the face of the Dark Side has been replaced, and her name is Captain Phasma.
- As the Force awakens, so do the powers of evil. After the Battle of Endor, the Empire fell, and the powers it held were scattered throughout the galaxy.This is the tale that is told in Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens, and one of the antagonists that seeks that power for herself is Captain Phasma of the First Order.
- The Force has awakened, and must be used for the power of darkness. It’s been decades since the Empire fell to the Alliance and left the galaxy without a supreme ruler. Now, in Star Wars: Episode VII, the struggle between light and dark begins again. Clad in a suit of silvery armor, eyes staring out from behind a shining mask, one warrior is prepared to bring the stars themselves to their knees for the glory of the First Order. Her name: Phasma.
Outside of the major characters, there are no shortage of Stormtrooper and Flametroooper costumes that don’t really reveal anything that we don’t already know – but hey, they look good.
It should be noted that Lucasfilm’s Matt Martin has stated that some information here is “editorialized”, and is not necessarily representative of what will happen in the movie. If I had to guess, the thing about there being a huge battle between several lightsaber-wielders, the First Order, and the Resistance is probably not in the movie (as it sounds more like something that one would see in The Old Republic). Likewise, I don’t think it’s likely that Rey is a part of the Resistance until at least halfway through the movie.
@ManaByte They didn’t come past me for approval, I know that much! My guess is the retailer is editorializing a bit.
— Matt Martin (@missingwords) September 5, 2015
That being said, certain details about the way the descriptions are written interest me. Captain Phasma is treated a threat rivaling Darth Vader or even the Emperor. Finn is presented as an everyman trying to turn a new leaf, while Rey is presented as an expert in her field. Kylo Ren is presented as part of a group that allies itself with the First Order out of shared interests as opposed to running it completely. I get the feeling that, even if the people writing the descriptions were taking shots in the dark, they at least had some direction from Lucasfilm on what to talk about. With that in mind, it wouldn’t surprise me if certain elements discussed here actually fit into the story.
Special thanks to Staff Member TIDMADT for finding many of these.
Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.
The idea of living in an abandoned AT-AT is sort of cool. Hope we get to see the inside and how she’s personalized it.
I’m sure the inside will be spray painted end-to-end with colorful graffiti artwork. ;P
She’ll have a Teen Beat poster hanging up in the AT AT
It will probably be filled with junk since she’s a scavenger.
It’ll be like Wall-E. She might have a cockroach for a pet.
Oh Disney =)
So we’re going to see multiple Knights of Ren? Cool
We will probably see more Knights of Ren towards the end of the movie as a new greater threat to the Galaxy so episode VIII can jumpstart.
[SPOILER ALERT!]
Based on the MSW outline (which is admittedly incomplete and possibly incorrect in certain places), it appears as though the Knights Of Ren led an attack on Luke’s Jedi Enclave in part of the flashback sequence, killing a bunch of Padawans. Luke Skywalker in turn kills a bunch of them, but by the time he saves the day, there are no survivors (except for possibly one: Rey). This line of reasoning is supported by the Robert Boulter pre-viz video and a recent quote revealed through the Kylo Ren mask (about “The Last Jedi” – namely, Luke).
During the “present” of TFA, it appears as though the only character involved in the KOR that factors into the plot is Kylo Ren himself. It is extremely unlikely that Captain Phasma is a KOR, though I think there’s a chance she could be Force-Sensitive. Supreme Leader Snoke could *possibly* be part of the KOR.
As I mentioned above, don’t expect a lightsaber rave party of doom at the end of this movie – that would almost certainly be saved for the last film of the ST, presuming it occurs at all. The write-ups about the KOR appearing are almost certainly the description-writers having fun.
Thanks for the above explanation, Pomo! It pretty much mirrors what my own theories are, and lends some credence to others I have as well.
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Pomojema that KOR vs Jedi battle flashback might be true. Remember that one casting call you guys made waaaay back in april/may where an old extra was cast as a with general? That extra could possibly be a kor general leading kor acolytes/infantry into battle against lukes newly formed Jedi. It would be perfect!
Wasn’t there some concept art that surfaced showed a bunch of figures wielding red lightsabers? Kind of sounds like it could the concept art of the Knights of Ren battling The Resistance to me.
As mentioned above, I’m pretty sure those guys are KOR, but they appear in the flashback scene as opposed to appearing in the present.
While I’m sure other KOR exist by the time of TFA, I am certain that Kylo Ren is the only one who will show up in TFA’s present (unless Snoke is also one).
Meesa like’en this’a trainwreck o’ thought. Maybe KOR (or KOTOR or NKOTB) has been betrayin’Masta Luke in flashback’s flashback as former Jedi gone corrupted.
Interesting details for sure, it will be interesting to see which ones are correct when the film comes out. They certainly seem to indicate that we will get to see a fair amount of the other Knights of Ren.
“Among other things, Phasma is separated from her evil counterparts by one very distinct fact – she’s a girl!”
Yeah, I kinda got that with all the pronouns mentioned. It’s totally cool, but I’m more interested in the “other things” part. It’s not like Phasma can use her gender as a weapon.
You got a lot to learn about women, dude..
I’m pretty sure it’s a safe bet that she isn’t going to be using her shiny chrome armor to try and seduce the resistance into submission.
She CAN!
So, flash back to Bespin and the Empire seizing Lukes hand 30+ years ago. They clone him, and now Serkis will be playing the young 30+ year old clone Luke Skywalker aka Snoke aka Luuke via motion capture/cgi.
Del Toro will play Thrawn or a version of it. Hux is cross between Daala and Pellaeon. Starkiller base stands in for The Maw Installation and the super weapon is the Sun Crusher.
So basically, they are going to take the EU and mash it all together….haha.
Not even close…
Yup, take ideas, rename them and you have a completely new, “original” story 😛
Pellaeon would be nice, tho.
“It was the weapon he [Luke] used……when battling Jabba the Hut [sic], and later when he fought Darth Vader at Cloud City. ”
Wait…what? Battling Jabba with his BLUE lightsaber and LATER when he fought Vader at Cloud City…. What?! Whoever wrote this doesn’t know Star Wars very well.
You clearly haven’t seen the latest version yourself. It was so cool.
Har har ; )
Definite mistake on their part. Again, it’s why these descriptions should be examined, but not treated as the Gospel.
Maybe it’ll be explained in a comic or in a book (if HTTJ didn’t explain it).
HTTJ didn’t explain it – Jabba wasn’t present at all.
It was a simple mistake on their part – nothing more.
They have truly re-made Star Wars. This is the original movie, for a younger generation. I think they’ll like it. I fear OG Star Wars fans are going to hate it.
How do you figure that?
much of the film seems to have interesting ideas ruined by a uninteresting death star clone with a thin story
How can you make that claim? All we have are rumors that are probably 98% false. Just be patient!
Starkiller Base is effectively the new Death Star in this movie. That part is true – they’ve said it themselves at SDCC.
I have noticed that there are a ton of parallels to the OT as a whole within this one movie based on what we’ve heard. However, I do think that in spite of the retread ground, they will pull out all the stops and do original stuff with what they have.
Our new Luke Skywalker is a former Stormtrooper – one who might not even have a real name, or if he does, he doesn’t remember it – seeking to turn over a new leaf.
Our new Princess Leia is a self-sufficient warrior – living on a backwater world – who was probably trained as a Jedi at some point.
Our new Han Solo is a responsible soldier who willingly helps Princess Leia out.
Our new Darth Vader is a dark reflection of Luke Skywalker – an young individual with unbridled ambition for his future – who idolizes Darth Vader.
Our new Boba Fett is a woman who commands a ruthless squad of Stormtroopers.
Our new Grand Moff Tarkin is a third of Tarkin’s age, helming a weapon way more powerful than Tarkin could have ever hoped to have with the Death Star.
Our new Emperor Palpatine is an alien who has ties to the Dark Side, but is not a Sith.
Our new Mon Mothma is our old Princess Leia – wiser with age, but much more proactive than her predecessor.
Our new Obi-Wan is really the old Han Solo. The same thing can be said of Luke Skywalker, in a sense (though one could argue that he’s also our new Yoda).
Our new R2-D2 is a more snippy and curious droid that rolls around on a ball.
Our new C-3PO has feminine programming and is an outlaw (according to the databank, anyway).
Our new Yoda is a space pirate who has a history with Han Solo and a knack for understanding lightsabers.
Our new Chewbacca is… the old Chewbacca. Some things don’t change.
When all is said and done, even if it largely hits most of the beats of the OT in the span of 125 minutes, I think we’re all going to see something special with this movie.
Well said. Agree on every point, though I do think Finn and Rey will both kind of be the new Luke.
Finn -> Han Solo
Rey -> Luke
Poe Dameron is the new Han Solo
Sorry, there is a huge difference between Rey and Leia. If you want to compare, the main character of all three trilogies originates from similar settings yet walked very different paths. And one more thing, all three of them are dragged into the galactic conflict by someone else. Obiwan, Leia and this one, Finn.
It’s quite funny to see all you OT brown nosers perform mental gymnastics convincing yourselves that we a not getting something else other than a new hope: the next generation.
I expected more from Disney…..wait, nope,I didn’t. Paying so much for a franchise,where they could have taken it in any direction, all they’ve done is given ia new hope a new coat of pink paint.
Big companies and Hollywood have been lacking creativity for years, it’s the nature of the beast.
Another example; the marvel franchise, they can go any way and give us new stories, nope, we’re getting stuff we’ve already seen in the comics. Ultron, civil war, the infinity gauntlet, all done before.
Laziness in my view. I expect the same is gonna be with SW.
And when SW is taken in a new direction like the PT…people b@tch!!
People bitched because, George claiming to know of a great place, promptly sent us to Hamactington by way of his terribly written directions.
Pomojema wasn’t doing any “mental gymnastics” there, he actually made some pretty good points, including a few I hadn’t considered previously.
Star Wars films are Celtic myths reimagined.
The Tuatha De Dannan of Irish myths, had a weapon called the claimh solais(light sword), their leader was called Nuada Airgetlam – meaning – silverhand(in the Welsh version he’s called Lludd llaw Eraint)because his hand was chopped off and later replaced.
Their enemy was an evil dark lord, eventually killed by his grandson Lugh Lamhfhada(long hand) or ildanach(many skilled) one of the Tuatha De, who had been hidden from his grandfather as a child for his own safety.
Lugh eventually won a victory with an amazingly accurate slingshot to the eye of his great enemy. In welsh myths he’s called Lleu Llaw Gyffes – the bright one with the strong hand. The Tuatha De were themselves later defeated by the Gaels and banished underground – they literally went to the dark side and were thereafter known as the sidh or sithe.
Interestingly, Nuada silverhand’s great grandson was the famous Finn MacCool.
I’m an OG fan I will like it, regardless of the similiraties!
All the new toys are ridiculously expensive. I read that Poe’s X Wing for Lego is like 85 bucks! Get ready for a merchandising onslaught such as we have not seen since the Prequels.
Finn looks like a short, chubby Sidney Poitier. Weird.
And Luke was/is tall?
“They call me MISTER Finn!”
Not enough short heroes IMO,and Hobbits don’t count.My options for cosplay are very limited,here’s hoping for a 5/5 Knight of Ren.
More like a chubby Grace Jones.
They’re giving us everything and nothing. Brilliant marketing or paranoid studio?
I think they actually want us to enjoy being surprised when we see the film….
So,
Rey is Force aware
Kylo Ren is Force aware
Finn does not sound Force aware, too heavily reliant on a blaster
Rey’s staff is very significant. Either, it’s a weapon she scavenged on Jakku (possibly a Sith relic), or like a lightsaber, she built it herself.
I think Rey’s staff could be like a naginata but with a lightblade instead of a steel one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naginata
Yeah, something powerful that has yet to be revealed.
Plaguies old staff.
I’m admittedly a huge proponent of Darth Plagueis showing up somewhere in the Sequel Trilogy, but I will quickly tell you that it is extremely unlikely that the staff belonged to Sheev’s old master.
Probably because he is also a Stormtrooper. Things change though. Luke used a blaster in all 3 films.
Even if only half of these story details are true, MSW outline for TFA is pretty far off
In the description of “the coolest lightsaber ever made” they say , about kylo ren lightsaber : Now, you can get that power, too
Clearly a reference to the words of Luke from the teaser… You have that power too! and Clearly a hint that Kylo is a Skywalker with potential to become a jedi but he turned bad at some point
Not saying that your theory wont turn out to be true, but the steps you took to get there based on just that are a bit far-fetched and stupid.
Stupid people are usually the one that think other’s are stupid
Hahaha you are right, and even more stupid are the one hiding under an ANONYMOUS name to post negative comment, because they don’t have enough balls to face critics!
I don’t think it’s stupid at all, that’s too clear to be a coincidence, I had the same feeling as well when I saw it, and many timewe heard the rumour that Kylo is the son of Leia and Han, so he have Skywalker blood indeed and possibly that power too ! That make perfect sens. Just my 2 cent, but I think that we gonna hear that speech from Luke in a flashback scene when he’s talking to Kylo and maybe the reason he decided to live away from civilisation is because of his failure to properly train Kylo. Of course something important and a failure has happen for him to live away.
Luke did not use the blue lightsaber to battle Jabba the Hutt. By that time it had already been lost in Bespin and he had crafted a new green lightsaber – the one admired by his father on Endor.
See my response above. I had the same reaction.
Never mind that, Anakin lost his original lightsaber on Geonosis in the droid factory so he only had this “new” saber for a short while before Obi Wan took it.
Anakin had that lightsaber in Clone wars series and EP III.
Since when did Luke have a blue lightsaber and fight Jaba? Who did these descriptions don’t know what the duck they are talking about.
If a lot of these plot points are true, Lucasfilm has kept a great deal of this film secret…multiple Knights of Ren…Rey opening up a can on some baddies…Phasma compared to Vader… the only thing that bugs me is the red flag with Jabba and the blue lightsaber. This never happened…unless Luke faces Jabba in an as yet unreleased story set between ANH and ESB. That’s the only way that makes sense…but no…just…no.
I have actually heard rumors on this site and others about Rey having a few big fight scenes in the film, as well as all the talk in general about her character essentially being a total bad ass.
The Knights of Ren will be used in the flashback but Ep8 & Ep9 will reveal more so we can ramp up the battles.
Maybe Luke starts to build up his forces too (The Seven?) for the very last battle of the ST.
But I think for Ep7 this is what the free runners were used for
I love that the “Anakin/Luke” saber shown in the link is actually the AOTC Anakin saber, not the ep3,4,& 5 one. Don’t read into their horrible description either.
They can’t even be consistent with Rebel and Resistance.
Since there are several Knights of Ren, I hope they can draw several great villains from there. Benicio del Toro will be a Knight of Ren, right?
However I doubt we’ll see several of them in battle in TFA. That sounds like something they’d save for Episode VIII and IX.
And please… When we do, can a certain Jedi with a green lightsaber please be involved?
“Benicio del Toro will be a Knight of Ren, right?”
Nothing’s set in stone, but… maybe!
I would love to see an army of knights of ren vs an army of Jedi…don’t know how it would work into the plot but it would be amazing!
Why does Rey and Finn look so weird when they run?
Coz instead of looking like they’re running they’re looking like they’re acting like they’re running. Hopefully this got smoothed out in the final edit.
Yeah it looks a tad fake. Acting should never look like “acting”. Hopefully this translates better on screen.
I do hope that bit about the Knights of Ren charging into battle is in the film and not just some bumf on the back of a toy packet,sounds amazing
You misspelled Tatooine! Damn!
Right, this seals the deal. TFA is not for me.
you said that without seeing it, basing yourself off a few spoilers.
Good.
Tatooine = Jakku confirmed anyone?
Aftermath is the nail in the coffin to that theory. It describes Tatooine and Jakku as being two separate planets.
Thank God.
So where did all these knights of Ren come from i wonder… Former Inquisitors?
Probably,it needs explaining why there is no mention of Inquisitors or KoR in any of the films. I’m fine with having them but it needs addressing as to why there is suddenly loads of baddies with red lightsabers.I thought Ventress was stretching the Sith rule of two,cool as she is.
If JJ and Kasdan totally do away with Sith and replace by Knights of Ren, they are really bold. But somehow, I suspect Knights of Ren is just a smoke screen for Sith.
Origin of Kights of Ren may come from the early draft of ANH by GL as Sith Knights , the group battling with Jedi
If the Sith weren’t gone for good, then RotJ has no point at all.
Now that we know that the Empire survived the battle of Endor and split into different factions (which makes all the sense in the world) the ONLY reason to validate Anakin’s sacrifice was destroying the Sith for good.
This means Anakin did fulfill the prophecy. By doing so, this would lead straight into the alleged race for control of the Force between dark and light, as it’s been balanced or dormant since the end of RotJ. Actually, this is implied in the film’s title itself.
It is a bold move. But more than anything, it makes a lot of sense from a good storytelling perspective.
You made a point. The force wielder are not just Jedi and Sith, there are other factions, which are fine story telling. In that case I would like to have a Force mythology story explained like a Mortis arc from Clone Wars TV series in following movies. Because this is relatively new idea introduced in the Saga .
Exactly.
If we have so many different religions and belief systems in the real world, it only makes sense to see many different takes on the Force (aka God in the GFFA) throughout the galaxy. And to quote Palpatine, not just a few narrow, dogmatic views of it.
I for one would prefer it if the KoR are a new order, even more fanatical and radical than the Sith, bent on taking over with brute force rather than subtlety (even though I understand why Palpatine was forced to act this way in the PT).
You’re right no more Sith at all after Episode 6. Even says so directly in Aftermath by Palpatine’s aide. Tosses out another theory about you-know-who. Mr. P.
I still hope a Sith master lurks in the shadows,pulling strings and when he/she meet the KoR we see just how powerful real trained Sith are in comparison. I think the KoR are semi trained dark users used as enforcers by Snoke who reports to a hidden Sith master,Palpatine or Plagueis.
The Sith are history. The rule of 2 was established for a reason, and Vader and Palpatine are gone.
Plagueis is gone for good, too. Someone like Palpatine would’ve made sure that this was the case, especially if his master did have the power to save people from dying, which I seriously doubt.
Then why good Knight of Ren , Kylo has strong attachment for Vader, Sith Lord ?
Maybe Snoke knows the reason about Kylo’s true heritage and uses Vader as bait and lies to him like Palpatine did to his apprenctices from Maul to Anakin to corrupt him. Pretty obvious. Vader is also inspiration for the Imperial Remnant who joined the First Order. The hints are everywhere.
Being attached to some movement, or to a standout member of said movement, doesn’t automatically mean that you’re part of the movement, or that you will become the person you’re trying to emulate.
I have say something that is really starting to frustrate me!!! Why is there so little mention of Snoke??? Clearly this guy is pulling all the strings of the first order. Disney & JJ. Have thrown Kylo Ren at us with his new styled lightsaber. Personlly I like it but it has caused a lot of debate amongst fans. It’s all just a big a Snoke screen (see what I did there). They have brought in one of most versatile & talented actors in the industry, fair to say , the best in his field to play a mo-cap character. We get a wee snippet of his voice on the teaser, after that…. Jack shit! Clearly supreme leader Snoke is gonna be a whopper of a character. So why has no info on him leaked, who is he, is he a sith, a knight of Ren, did he start the order, is he tied in with any old characters or is he a new one??? Surly someone out there knows something. I’m looking forward to find out about him more than any other character. Come on Disney, throw us a bone.
“Clearly supreme leader Snoke is gonna be a whopper of a character. So why has no info on him leaked”
Because “Clearly supreme leader Snoke is gonna be a whopper of a character.” (See what I did there?)
But why has nothing leaked about him? They’re keepin Maz Kanata under wraps but still stuff has leaked about that character. Clearly the character has a big part to pay in the wider story arc. I do agree we won’t see much of him in Ep VII. Can’t wait to see him though!
Obviously this is for the same exact reason that Lucasfilm threw Maul at us at every turn back in ’98/99, and we learned almost nothing of Sidious till TPM came out.
Also, he may have very little [or no] screen time. Which would make sense. This is the first movie after all, and to have him all over the story this early would be a very insecure/unnecessary move. Keeping in mind we knew nothing of the Emperor until TESB.
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There is no way that he is not in TFA.
1) Serkis was already officially announced as part of be cast for TFA.
2) it was officially announced that his character is called Supreme Leader Snoke & we are even told that he’s a mo-cap character and most importantly, we see a picture of him acting out the part with mo-cap equipment.
Yeah, he’s definitely in the movie. Now, how much screen time he gets in TFA is another question.
That’s why said “little screen time”
Given the circumstance that JJ has a lot to say in overall story arc of ST, Identity of Snoke will remain in his mistery box well beyond Episode8, I suspect.
Except that he had disbanded the Senate in ANH.
Love the force!!
Why? It has nothing to do with Star Wars and is irrelevant to the conversation in every way.
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Man…the battles sound awesome. That would be cool to see. I gotta wonder why MSW had NO knowledge of the Knights of Ren this whole time while claiming to have basically the whole movie. I know this may not be accurate info but it really seems the Knights play a big part in all this, hard to see how that info could be overlooked if you had all the info, Not trying to bash anyone here, just seems like if I had all the movie info I would know about the Knights at least. But maybe they don’t play that much of a part this movie so we’ll see. But boy oh boy, I would be sooooo happy to see a battle like that.
Finn Bio
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