The Force Awakens Cast Discusses Original Trilogy Impact and Favorite On-Set Moments
Collider has some comments from the cast of The Force Awakens up from interviews done after the D23 panel this weekend. Of particular interest were comments from Isaac on the OT’s impact on how Abrams approached directing the new film as well as Boyega’s comments on the first time he received his lightsaber.
Isaac on Abrams and the original trilogy:
He’s inspired by the original films. He’s got Larry Kasdan, he’s got the original cast, but taking the mantle and doing our thing with it, finding our language with it, and I think he’s doing an incredible job at finding not only the excitement, but the messiness of life with it. Everything was evoking the original film, so it’s not like it had to be said.
Boyega on his favorite on-set moment:
I think the most surreal moment for me is when they walked out with a black box and open it up and handed me a lightsaber. For me that was when I was like, “OK, I’m in a Star Wars movie and I have a lightsaber in my hand.”
The article also has comments from Boyega on the use of practical effects, Ridley on her first time on set, and Nyong’o discussing how Abrams has blended new and old together in terms of technology and characters. For the full article check out Collider HERE.
Remember guys! It’s about the practical effects and the original trilogy feel!(x100000)
Agree. They are overselling the practical effects and the “OT” feel. Of course the movie is going to be like a dream come true for all of us, but I’m getting a little tired with that marketing.
Obviously they want to drive this fact home. And for those of us following every news story (but not necessarily the normal public) it has been overstated.
But part of it is surely that they’re being so tight lipped about everything else, it’s all there really is to talk about. Hopefully this will change once we get a real trailer.
The idea that E7 is E4 all over again is complete misdirection.
But, their experience making the film is over, they will continue to say the same things because the filming is complete. Need to ask different questions, for example:
1. JJ -Is this turning out to be the best film you’ve ever made – in your own opinion?
2. Daisy – Do you not only like your character – but, do you love her? Why?
3. Harrison – Is this film the best of the 4 you’ve made? Why?
4. Carrie – You are an accomplished writer – Is this the best Star Wars script to date?
On and on and on with new questions is what we need?
What else could they be asked?……..
WOW, constructive criticism ^^, nice.
Hang practical effects. I am so sick of the way they are selling this new trilogy.
PT fans keep crying about how they are “selling this movie” as “practical effects” when JJ says in pretty much every interview that there will be thousands of CG shots.
PT fans are rooting for this movie to fail.
Actually it was said here or on MSW there were 281 shots that were CGI.
I don’t know if I’d trust that MSW article. It claims all the Star Destroyers/ space battle stuff is entirely CGI… I’d bet at least a few of them will be models. I guess we’ll see.
There was a model X wing & Falcon on display @ celebration along with the other props… I’m not sure if that means those were used in the film or not… but it seems like it might be indicative of that being the case?
It also seems like it would be unlikely that they’d know the # of shots… I mean how would anyone but JJ & such know? I bet they are toying with stuff, hopefully really taking their time to do things right with post production. If they are going back to skelling micheal there may be more CGI shots to do based on that.
“There are going to be thousands of CG shots in this movie.” ~JJ Abrams
https://youtu.be/T27T5S6sCaI?t=79
I’d trust JJ over MSW
Instead of saying MSW said something, link to it. I don’t see where they said it would be only 281 shots.
I didn’t say that MSW said anything- not sure why you’re replying to me. I think the commenter I was replying to was referring to this:
http://makingstarwars.net/2015/07/how-many-shots-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens-are-cgi/
If so, it was misquoted. What it actually reads is this: “There’s [sic] about 28 shots in Star Wars: The Force Awakens that are completely CGI.”
I didn’t say that MSW said anything- not sure why you’re replying to me. I think the commenter I was replying to was referring to this:
http://makingstarwars.net/2015/07/how-many-shots-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens-are-cgi/
If so, it was misquoted. What it actually reads is this: “There’s [sic] about 28 shots in Star Wars: The Force Awakens that are completely CGI.”
Thanks. Just as I thought, someone misquotes MSW and then people jump in without making any effort to check the facts. So MSW never said what has now been attributed to them. Thank you for checking.
Yes, JJ has said over and over again that they are using CGI, but everybody hears what they want to hear. In the case of SW fans they focus on the things they don’t like.
Google… they did say it. I think SW7 news posted an article about it… don’t expect others to do the work for you.
Stop complaining. It does have an OT feel! They’ve brought back Luke, Han, Leia, Chewbacca and others for crying out loud. They’ve got John Williams composing the score and even Larry Kasdan writing the screenplay! Is that not enough?
No it’s not.
Esse filme vai ser zoadão porque estão fazendo o enredo em cima da idade dos 3 Grandes, e não um enredo natural. Ou seja, Disney teve de inventar qualquer coisa pra justificar os 30 anos que estão pegando como Ep7.
Rogue One vai ser bem melhor.
I’m starting to feel a bit patronized.
Me too
You realize that most people don’t read this forum or react to every bit of leaked info. The film is embracing practical effects because it is part of the Star Wars aesthetic. If you feel that the marketing is patronizing you are WAY TOO sensitive. Besides this film will have tons of CGI as well.
Tons of Cg? How do you know that?
JJ, said so.
JJ has said it over and over. Do you only listen to the practical stuff?
JJ said there will be CGI, not “tons” of it. Of course, there is going to be a CG mazz kanada (because disney has to feel they’re part of the “big boys” club by including a weird Gollum like creature to wow everybody.)
But when you hear report after report saying that there are only 20 CG shots out of 350 shots total, you know things are not so CG as you claim.
As linked above, JJ said in a video this weekend that there will be “thousands of CG shots” in the movie. He said it. You don’t have to pretend he didn’t say it anymore.
They only pay attention to the stuff they don’t like.
“There are going to be thousands of CG shots in this movie.” ~JJ Abrams
https://youtu.be/T27T5S6sCaI?t=79
JJ recently said, “There are going to be thousands of CG shots in this movie.”
https://youtu.be/T27T5S6sCaI?t=79
He has a lightsaber, but does he use the force? Is he just skilled with the lightsaber or is he a Jedi or Jedi like? I wonder.
I think if he gets to wield a saber in the movie, you can bet the force is with him. Of course he could have it just because he is a good sword fighter, but he’d never reach the same level as a Jedi. Not without Jedi-reflexes and especially not at his young age. But that’s just my two cents.
While I know Episodes 1-3 were flawed the fact that all I hear about is how this trilogy will invoke the OT is tiresome. I never saw 4-6 in theaters and was first introduced to them on VHS. I enjoyed these movies but it wasn’t until I saw Episode 1 that I fell in love with Star Wars. The Jedi, Darth Maul and size of the galaxy all brought me into this universe. In retrospect the movies themselves aren’t the best but without them I never would have truly jumped into the GFFA. I feel like with the constant rehash of this being like the OT we will lose the grandeur and scale of the galaxy that was created in Episodes 1-3.
Personally, I think that TFA trying to evoke the look and feel of the OT makes sense, as after all it’s a sequel to the OT and not to the prequels. For those who would complain about things like TIE fighters, stormtroopers, X-wings, Star Destroyers and the like still being in use 30 years later; take a moment to think about how much equipment still used today by real-world militaries have their origins in the 80s, 70s or even before. I think there’s good in-universe justification for trying capture the OT aesthetic beyond it just being fan pandering.
That’s a good point. Remember that the Russians are still using aircraft that they were using in the 60’s and 70’s before the fall of the soviet union
The Americans are still using versions of equipment from the 60s and 70s too. We still fly Hueys and Cobras in Afghanistan. We still use rifles that are variants of the M16 used in Vietnam and some SF carry a variant of the M14 used since the Vietnam war.
Yes, but we also have modern jets and the Internet too alongside these things. There is no sign whtsoever of “new” technology in the ST apart from BB-8.
Most of the jets we use in combat were first brought into use in the 70s. Sure, we do have more modern equipment, but we don’t actually use it in-country or in CAS except for high value operations. That’s just a reality. We upgrade a lot of things and use them until we can’t anymore. And in the 90s we discovered we could more cheaply keep updating and upgrading older tech to utilize more modern internals than spending billions introducing an entirely new line into service.
The brand new stuff you see promoted by the government is the stuff the big contractors get to spend money on so the military can continue to convince congress to overfund it for wars we will never fight because our biggest potential enemies now are wholly dependent on our economic success and fighting us in a war would destroy them more than us.
Edit: let me add that there is definitely new equipment in Afghanistan, but there’s also tons of old. And we’ve seen nothing to suggest that the 30 years between ROTJ and TFA haven’t resulted in a similar advancement. And that may not even be realistic… in a world where “modern times” have existed for THOUSANDS of years, you’d see far less advancement, not more, over decades.
f-15 1970’s
f-16 1970’s
f-18 1970’s
a-10 1970’s only real new jets are the f22 and f35
And the F35 is a piece of junk.
Again, we haven’t seen this movie yet. It is entirely possible we will see some new and updated craft. I think they are showing the familiar stuff first.
Also, it looks like the Tie fighters have evolved.
The PT had pretty stiff acting and writing. I liked them a ton when they first came out, but the older I have gotten the more I see the flaws. They have not aged well at all. The CG hasn’t either, specifically Episode I when the final battle on Naboo takes place in the giant field. It looks like a Dreamcast game now.
1. One can see flaws more clearly as they get older and become adults but that doesn’t necessarily mean that you should dislike a movie later on in your life. There are plenty of movies that I enjoyed seeing when I was a child that seeing them now, yeah, I sense that they come off a little cheesy and whatnot, but that doesn’t mean that I should automatically hate them now just because I’m an adult (nor does it mean that I should automatically like them less). This goes for all movies out there, not just Star Wars films (personally, I like all SW films).
2. This “age well” argument in visuals is not really a very strong and substantial argument as every movie is made with respect to the era that they come out on; when you watch a movie, visually you are looking at a snapshot of the times of when that movie was made. Even the OT, despite the practical effects used in them, you can’t tell me that they don’t look like old movies and despite the upgrades in the blu-ray versions of the OT (and discounting the added CGI from the SE), I can tell that they’re still old movies, older than the PT and plenty of other movies that came after it (both for movies that have or don’t have CGI); hint: some of the matte effects used, the stop motion, the early use of bluescreen make the OT feel dated. Do I hate them for that? No. I understand that those effects were the latest effects for that time period.
P.S. I was listening to a Star Wars podcast the other day and one of the hosts stated, “it’s funny how some of these PT haters act all hypocritical; they say they hate the PT for the use of CGI in them yet they went to see Avatar like 5 times.” I busted out laughing when I heard that lol.
I forgot to add: even the OT has some flaws. No Star Wars movie is flawless and perfectl and that includes the OT. Don’t believe me? Look at them carefully and objectively; also, look at some of some of the early movie reviews of the OT when they first came out in theaters.
The OT had lots of bad dialogue, and I don’t think the costumes aged well. That cantina scene looks like a bad Halloween party.
In all fairness… that scene was filmed like almost 40 years ago. For it’s time it impressed… my Dad who didn’t even like Star Wars mentioned that he thought it was a very impressive scene. It’s not about the realism per se, but the designs, the sounds (new alien sounds/ music), and the idea of the cantina itself that took everyone by surprise.
If you had seen any sci fi before that, no aliens looked anywhere near as cool as it did in ANH. I mean, even still to this day, a lot of Star Wars material was inspired by those aliens @ the cantina scene.
sorry, you are just being nostolgic. The aliens in the cantina were really bad. I had seen weirder stuff on the Star Trek television show and any 50s B monster movie.
But you are right when you say this cantina scene inspired future star wars films. I wish they’d stop it and do something original. The Jabba’s Palace sequence was really pandering to the cantina fans. Maz’s castle will be no different.
LOL! Star Trek is your example? Where every alien humanoid is basically a person with maybe some make up on their nose or adding different varieties of protrusions on their forehead/ ears?
BTW I don’t hate to burst your screen name’s bubble… but the arms do move:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqOgm4Pkyjk#t=1m06s
🙂
The more we compare aesthetics of the OT and the PT the more we uncover that it’s not effects and Cgi wizardry that make a film truly great, but something much more, something that resonates with the human spirit. The prequels were soulless lifeless costume dramas packaged in a nice shiny wrapper.
And yet it won the Academy Award for Best Costume at the time.
Star Wars was nominated for 10 academy awards including best picture and launched a legion of filmmakers careers. Stop trying to rewrite history just because the prequels were inferior films.
Also, when you really thing about it, the Star Wars franchise is mostly meant to cater to youth and young adults.
The original versions of the OT effects look horrendous now. Thank god for the special editions. Though, the added scenes are mostly crap.
It cannot be denied that the much-maligned prequels opened up the galaxy. People who watch the movies in internal sequence cannot help noticing that with the transition to the original trilogy, the galaxy suddenly seems to shrink. The great cities are gone, and instead we find ourselves in various remote backwaters, or in space. Now this does make some sense in terms of story, since the Rebels can’t go near the centers of civilization where the Empire now reigns. Yet it is very noticable.
Hopefully the Sequel Trilogy can unite the best of both worlds: let the galaxy be as big and grand as in the Prequels, but combine that with stronger plotting and more well-developed characters in the tradition of the Originals.
I am hoping for more scenes from Coruscant, for instance. It is a curious faction of “fans” that would prefer that no name or element from the Prequels should ever be featured or mentioned in the Sequel Trilogy, because they pretty much want to exclude the Prequels from canon. Whatever you think of the story, visually the Prequels are decent at worst and superb at best (though some of the CGI should now be redone and updated).
Because OT influence is so evident that you also have to discuss about it.
Come on SW7N, what’s with the pandering? Maybe this wasn’t your intention but the fact that you dedicated an article of people talking about practical effects makes it seems so.
You’ve been doing really good last week with reporting toy leaks and interviews and stories regarding TFA that DIDN’T have to do with a bunch of talk on practical effects (for example: some of the stories you posted were on background info on some of the characters); please continue that trend and NOT go backwards with reporting (and making an arrow at every instance) EVERY TIME SOMEONE MENTIONS PRACTICAL EFFECTS WHENEVER THE SUBJECT OF TFA COMES UP!!! I know you want to provide fans with news on all things Star Wars but seriously guys, posting stuff like this just makes it seems like you’re pandering to the OT purist fanboys; this has been noticed by a multitude of people (not just me) as a lot of noise has been created to the point where it seems like perhaps Disney/LFL may have taken notice as evident by last week’s EW articles where none of them had to do with “practical effects” talk. Start downplaying the “practical effects” talk significantly because it’s getting tiresome and redundant and just comes off with giving many people bad taste in their mouths (and start up-playing other stuff regarding TFA like leaks and information tidbits on TFA’s story, you know, stuff that really matters of what some fans that come visit sites like this one want to know.
P.S. For those of you that get the urge, please don’t turn my thread to a PT vs. OT debate (nor try to bait me into an argument) because 1) I’m not looking to get into arguments about that (take that somewhere else) and 2) my thread is not even meant to evoke “the use of practical effects” talk but more so on the matter on how this “practical effects” marketing has become redundant.
Butt hurt fanboys like you need to take a step back and realize how ridiculous your argument is. I feel that this OT versus PT debate is really a generational debate. I get it, you saw TPM when you were 5 and the pod race was cool (I guess if you’re five). However, those movies sucked and for adults they were a massive let down. They have no redeeming qualities. They are painful to watch and just reminds us of how much Lucas had lost his mojo (calling into question if he ever really had it). That’s why we hate the PT. Not because we’re “haters”, but because they were bad movies.
And I think you need to realize just how ridiculous spreading your vitriol-laced opinion on the Internet is (and what did the OP tell you about baiting them?). Whether you like it or not, the PT brought in a new generation of fans into the world of SW fandom (it also helped spawn off a successful show called The Clone Wars which said fans grew with as well). The PT was meant for a new generation just like the ST is meant to bring in a new generation of fans as well (don’t believe me? Look at the wording of the press release from the LFL sale to Disney as it clearly states “it’s time to bring Star Wars to a new generation”). Everyone is entitled to their own opinions of course just like I’m entitled to mine: Star Wars is meant for youth and young adults and every generation is different (so don’t be talking about how Star Wars should cater to adults because that’s not what the franchise is meant to serve); it’s funny when people mention the word “adult” when it comes to Star Wars talk despite the fact that these movies are meant to cater to young people.
By the way, how do you like to be labeled as a “PT hater”? Because that’s the label that will be applied to you wherever you go in spreading your vitriol.
P.S. There are various statistics out there that show that you’re in the minority (a minority that likes to be very vocal and loud on the Internet).
Blaming SW7 news for Disney’s marketing? I guess some people will complain about anything. If you hate real stuff, throw all your things away & replace it with CGI stuff.
+ most people enjoy the practical effects marketing. If you haven’t noticed… it’s worked.
1) if you haven’t noticed, many fans are getting a bad taste on the way TFA has been marketed with all this redundant “practical effects” talk. I see the reactions about this all the time on Twitter so don’t come on here stating that it’s working because clearly, not everyone (a good handful might I add) is jumping for joy every time they’re seeing marketing of this type. Furthermore, these types of “turned off” reactions aren’t just by Star Wars fans that like the PT as well, these types of reactions are also coming from people that are old-school Star Wars fans (you know, the ones that grew up with the OT and saw the OT in theaters when they were kids) and from causal fans as well.
2. If this type of marketing is working, it’s working for a sub-section of people (a sub-section of fans to say it more appropriately) that doesn’t represent the entire fanbase 100%. The general moviegoing public doesn’t care about all this “practical effects” talk (ex: on where exactly is practical effects utilized and where exactly is the CGI utilized, how much of what is utilized) as long as the movie looks good and decent and has a good story. Period.
“I see the reactions about this all the time on Twitter so don’t come on here stating that it’s working because clearly, not everyone (a good handful might I add) is jumping for joy every time they’re seeing marketing of this type.”
Yeah, probably the same 5 people who hate the fact that a new Star Wars movie is coming out! & every time a new article is posted seek out the first opportunity to point out that someone said “practical effects” as if this is some type of talent/ skill. *Clap clap clap*, we are so proud of whatever it is you do… made any of the best movies of all time yet? 🙂
But seriously, just look at the amount of likes
“as long as the movie looks good and decent and has a good story.”
Oh yeah… no one ever talked about how the film’s centered around characters & story? No one ever said JJ is more into story than special effects? This was never marketed according to you?
I bet the reason why you are “anonymous” is because you are in reality EmSeeSquared ? 🙂
Seriously
For most people that see this movie, the only marketing that they know of is the the 2 teasers that have come out. Ask around you’ll see.
The only reason this practical effects talk is an issue (outside of PT fans feeling marginalized) is that hardcore Star Wars fans are hanging on every little bit of info that comes out and this over saturation would lead one to believe there is this “practical effects marketing”. But really outside of hard core fans who spend most of their lives on these sites, most wouldn’t even know of all this practical effects business. they just know a cool Star Wars movie is coming out and it’s got Han Solo in it.
1. The PT may have been “meant to cater to young people,” as you say; however, the OT (and, seemingly, the ST also) was/is meant to be entertaining and enjoyable for audiences of ALL ages.
2. I understand, it may seem overly repetitive to those of us who follow Star Wars news religiously but most people are less aware of this. The vast majority of casual fans are very happy to hear that TFA is heavily relying on real sets and practical effects.
3. I’m sorry that this upsets you so much. Most of what we’ve learned about this movie assures me that it’s being made with genuine care and passion; I, for one, can’t wait to see it. I wish that you could just be as excited as most of us are that we are getting new, well made, Star Wars!
They’re simply reporting every time anyone involved with the production of TFA makes a comment on record. It’s mostly a SW news aggregator / summary site. If you have a problem with the distribution of topics, the problem with the state of discussions of the film in general. They are not making the news, they are reporting on essentially 100% of it.
If they were putting out editorials every week on practical effects, that would be a different story. Their only editorials seem to be rumor summaries and interpretation.
Jesus Christ! How can anyone get tired of them saying they have gone back to practical effects?? Its what we all wanted tho, we wanted practical effects, minor cgi, the feel of the OT and hopefully the cast. JJ checked ALL those boxes and people at whining about them telling us?? Grow the F up!! All this -Ahh i’m so f-ing importaint that everything is below me- attitude is getting old really rapidly!! You call yourselves fans??? Shut the f*ck up!!!!
These people around here are just too stupid to realize that they HAVE to keep repeating themselves…the rest of the planet does not follow this day by day like we do. GOD I HATE KIDS…these kids on here are really getting on my damn nerves with their ignorance. I will use the band KISS as an example. Guitarworld: A lot of fans complain that you keep playing the same set list every night. Paul Stanley: Yes we do, not every fan follows us around and comes to every show. Not every person in the audience is at the show the night before and is a die hard KISS fan.We want every fan to have the same experience…….. the point is…not every star wars fan comes to these sites like we do….get over it.
Just give us a good story, and a good soundtrack! If those two things are in good order, then it doesn’t matter what type of effects you use.
Also, who is going to be Rey’s love interest?
Doesn’t matter what kind of effects are used? Ever seen a film called “star wars”?
I usually don’t like too much cgi but i agree with you.
The story is the most important thing (and how to finish it). Most of blockbusters have good ideas but most of them fail in execution with silly/bad scripts.
With a good story i can handle some cgi effects 😉
Lets hope the practical effects are not a let down when compared to the stunning CG effects this movie is going to bring.
The debate will be over, and the winner is………
…yes the rehashing of OT and practical effects seems redundant, BUT I don’t feel this type of commentary is designed for the rabid group of fans who seek out info daily on websites like this. It’s for folks who have only heard bits and pieces, a way to lure them in and simultaneously distance this new trilogy from the PT.
I can understand the marketing of TFA. This film continues the story of Luke, Han and Leia and of course the style, look and feel should match the OOT. Looking at the Star Wars Legacy 4k restoration videos (Google it) by Mike Verta, you can see how beautiful the film still looks with quality preservation of the film stock. I love Harmy’s despecialized version, but the Legacy version needs to be shown on the big screen.
I don’t understand the complaints about repetition on an article that is itself a rehash of the D23 video collection from yesterday.
It’s a slow day today, and Collider was falsely advertising actual news,
what do you want from SW7N.com? Make something up?!
Is there anywhere online that we can watch the entire panel?
This was a really boring letdown for another convention. why dont they show something other than couple cast photos interviews and directors. They really keep missing the chance to blow us away with something real that we can see. its messed up how we just keep getting teased like its a game. Why not show some more set photos and a clip
I say patience
Because they don’t have to.
yea well F them
Yes. F* Lucasfilm and its production of a new Star Wars movie, new TV show and various other properties.
Right…great attitude. Wonderful.
It’s all down to JJ, and yes I agree it has gone to far, a few static creature photos are not going to spoil plot or story, but it would give us something to talk about.
Stop saying they’re over-selling the practical effects. You have to understand this is not a marketing campaign. It’s the media who always ask the same questions in interviews. Stop asking about it and they’ll stop talking about it.
Also, they cannot really talk about the story and characters. What’s left ?
Bull! virtually every other movie gives out more to the media and fans than TFA,it’s only a f@cking movie, not a national secret.
Yea they are treating it way too top secret. its like come one we been waiting 10 years for a new movie now we gotta wait 4 more months exactly. We deserve just a bit more than a couple of teasers. other movies get full trailers a year before release. this is just really messed up
We really don’t deserve anything. Star Wars is a different beast than other films. They don’t need to drum up interest by throwing out teasers and clips left and right. They already have the interest. And they are going to keep the interest high until the film is released.
Why do we deserve it?
THERE’S A NEW STAR WARS MOVIE COMING OUT THAT WE’VE BEEN WAITING A DECADE FOR AND NOW WE CAN’T SUSTAIN OURSELVES FOR ONE WEEKEND WITHOUT A SYNOPSIS?
that black x wing behind poe dameron in that picture looks like a cheap prop made of cardboard.
… just sayin’.
It looks awesome.
whatever thats a really stupid logic. hey they love us no matter what, lets keep getting their hopes up and then let them down every time. pretty shitty way to treat your fans
You’ve got multiple comic series and a TV restarting next month.
They’ve done plenty to the point where people are already complaining about over-saturation.
im strictly talking about info on the film. everything is cool i like all the other media they are doing its not over saturated because star wars has had a dry spell for 10 years. clone wars doesnt count. so its good they are constant making new stuff. i just cant get enough
They do that for our own interest. It’s just great that we don’t know everything. I love it. Keeps me excited. Don’t worry, we’ll get a trailer soon and everybody will be happy. Relax.
Thank you SW7News for giving me somewhere to spend my lunch break that isn’t a restricted site. I appreciate what you are doing.
these are just taken from the interviews you have already posted in D23 article…………..
who do you think rey’s love interest would be in the new trilogy???????
Finn.
Then he can’t be a Jedi…
we still have no idea if Rey becomes a jedi or if she ever uses a lightsaber….. but hey, why ask the important questions when we have MORE confirmation that they’re using real sets and props!
That is an important question for you?
Ah I see you are an Anonymous.
Rey will become a Jedi, 100% sure.
It’d be an interesting twist to have the jedi not be the main character
Now, one distinguished actor who was in TFA has been absent from marketing of the movie. Mr, Max Von Sydow. If you check his twitter, he said some interesting story like. Ford improvised 60 percent of his line or full of spider was in his trailer .
The cast and crew are wisely distancing themselves from the prequels with every comment. Within the film community and the public at large, the prequels are a joke. And yes some of the blame is placed on 90% of the films looking like a PS2 videogame. People can live in denial all they want, but everywhere you look you will see the same story.
I fricking LOVE that they keep telling us how great practical effects are, and when you hear cast & crew raving about it it sends a signal to the rest of the movie world – so that we may get some good, realistic-looking movies again.
And if you think it’s such a disaster that they advertise practical effects, why not go back to your beloved PT and just enjoy THAT. Because that is what I heard when I complained about the PT: Just creep back to the hole you came from and watch the OT.
But wait! When the PT – especially TPM – was in production, ALL they were talking about was..wait for it.. CGI! The best CGI in the world! There’s just …it’s so DENSE! We can now totally create a digital character and he’ll be so funny! CGI CGI. Did I complain about how they were just talking about CGI?? Not really, because it sounded like they were going to basically revolutionize CGI with the most awe-inspiring, realistic-looking CGI ever made. And now Jar Jar looks like a cartoon superimposed on the film.
And when PT fans heard complaints about the prequels? Chase away anyone who wanted to discuss the problems they had with the new trilogy. Fingers in ears, lalala.
The Force Awakens is not for you. It’s for the majority of Star Wars-fans who want to give the saga another chance.
It is okay, you can still watch your precious PT, and you can still complain about the focus on practical effects.
But please stop mentioning that practical effects are being hyped. We *know* you dislike the way it is going. Bitching about it now is just SO last month. Find something else to bitch about so that we can have a fresh discussion.
Actually one thing that sucked about Episode I
was the Yoda puppet, the CGI Yoda they put in later on the other hand …
… still sucked.
What Lucasfilm should’ve done was create a puppet for TPM that was inspired by Yoda from Empire.
Devil’s in the details, like getting Yoda’s relaxed, droopy eyes just right.
Cgi yoda was a cartoon.
Can’t wait for the body suits and puppets, you will be able to spot them because they will look so real and not be restricted in their movement and actions.
CGI is so good now if it is done properly it is impossible to know that it is CG unless you are looking at something fantastic that can not possibly exist in the real world.
Indeed. There were LOTS of fans who were totally convinced that BB-8 was just a CGI character after seeing him in the trailer. They were shocked when the “impossible” droid rolled onto the stage before a live audience!
CGI is getting pretty good these days (when they take the time and expences to get it right), and we should not flatter ourselves that we can always tell whether something is “real” or not.
Why should we even try, if we are there to enjoy the movie as opposed to looking for something to whine about? After all, CGI actually isn’t something shameful and indecent in the art of moviemaking.
As a whit man with 3 kids I’m so glad that finn is the new jedi my daughter even has a crusb on boyega. I just find it so funny when I these sites and I see people trying to come up with false theories to dissaprove finn being a jedi I hear dumb shit like “maybe he is carrying it as a purse or something so rey can use it when she barka at him to give her a weapon” or “he must only have it for 2 seconds then passes it to rey the right full owner” and my favourite obe is wwhenpeople say her staff could be a lightsaber loool. You white fans so can’t stomach a black hero that you have to come up with theories to dissaprove that he is a jedi when deep down you know you’re gonna have to buy your son his action figure. My son is already begging me for a finn toy and I will buy it for him infact I will buy 12
no one cares that hes black. he just sucks at portraying a jedi. how the f*** is a stormtrooper gonna become a jedi. rey just makes more snse. shes a female so it would be alot cooler to see her become the main hero. finn and poe are just along for the ride like han and leia.
“no one cares that hes black.”
Pull your head out of the sand.
A lot of Star Wars fans don’t like Boyega specifically because he’s black. Some have even called him a gorilla and other racist things.
That’s why he felt compelled to address them late last year with “Get used to it.”
“he just sucks at portraying a jedi.”
And you know this how exactly?
Yes, Boyega sucked in that prequel movie where he played a Jedi.
Oh. Wait…….
Yes, Stormtroopers can never ever be Jedi because the Creator made it that way.
I guess. Maybe……Oh, we don’t know.
Storm troopers are weak minded, and can only fight in bad weather.
well i guess you guy are in for a big letdown. keep loving your black jedi. we will see how the general public feels about the movie and his performance. are you defending him just because or do you honestly like him
“my daughter even has a crusb on boyega”
Your daughter has bad taste.
Loves the dark side
Practical effects sums up what’s “Practical” to use in a given situation, green screen may the only practical option or maybe a real set, even cgi might be the only practical option. I think there is a general misunderstanding between practical and physical or in-camera effects. I think for JJ he will use a balance of the two, a model shot done badly can be horrendous, just look at the slew of bad 80s movies that use optically printed effects with models. It depends on how it’s handled.
On cgi here’s an example; cgi animators have a good idea on how to bring a character to life, if you look at the special features to episode two Attack of the Clones, there’s a whole segment where an animator is basically made fun of by George because of the way he dealt with one of Yoda’s scenes. With the line “Oh poor little Yoda” by George telling the guy he did it wrong. OK George is the director, but the animator is clearly pissed but can’t say f**king BOO about it.
NO one questioned George, the cgi wasn’t bad, George didn’t know how to make it work and be relatable.
JJ is a collaborator and wants feedback and opinions, the OT worked because George wasn’t confident enough to take full control as time and money were a factor and having new directors involved was key, but you can see George’s influence being greater in ROTJ.
So whether physical or cgi both can be practical, you just need people willing to oversee its proper use.
My god the amount of whining on here is pitiful. Clearly they are not going to be discussing the story, or plot points, or even details of individual characters. DO YOU WANT A TERMINATOR GENYSIS STYLE SPOILER FEST CAMPAIGN? DO YOU? REALLY?!
For now they have little to go on besides how they made the movie, rather than what’s in the movie. So what. It IS important that they actually took the effort to build sets and try to do many things like background characters using the same kinds of techniques as they used in the OT rather than just rely on CG to fill in the backgrounds. This will have a knock on effect on how authentic this looks to a traditional Star Wars film. Also it’s at odds with a lot of the big films nowadays that are using more and more CGI, although even these films use far more real sets than the Prequel trilogy (especially Ep2 & Ep3) managed.
I’m glad for it, but its all they can talk about. It’s all we should be expecting for a while yet. Autumn for the trailer and we maybe get some dialogue and plot clues to discuss. Please can everyone just stop whining for now, it’s sad, from what I presume are grown adults more or less on here..
When Peter Jackson remade King Kong are you all trying to say it would of been better using stop motion puppets,and those Planet of the Apes movies, men dressed up as apes, so realistic.
One day you people are going to understand what they are doing is advancing cinematic technique not using outmoded effects. Just because they are building things doesn’t mean they are not trying to be cutting edge. Cgi doesn’t ways mean progressive and practical effects doesn’t mean outmoded.
What I’ve seen so far leads me to believe that there are some very tallented artists and engineers at work on this film,
CGI can mimic any practical effect exactly to the point that you would actually think it was a practical effect, practical effects on the other hand can not.
Forget that I disagree with that statement. I think you are missing the point. Art comes in a variety of forms. There are artists advancing effects outside of computer animation. Last years Oscar winner for visual effects is a case in point. A conscious resolve by Chris Nolan to “build it if he could” gave that film the visual heft and a genuine response from the actors that I think will start a renaissance in visual effects and a more responsible use of CGI to enhance the image.
Both Abrams and Rian Johnson have spent time with Nolan and are looking to tap into what he did with that film. I think this film will break new ground despite the accusations (mostly PT fans) of outmoded techniques.
You’ll see.
If you are an actor or director, a practical effect you can hold with your hand, you can see with your eyes, you can move it around on set. CGI you cannot. You need to broaden your perspective on this a little.
For me, the problem with the PT isn’t the story or the CGI persay, it’s the spotty acting. At times Ewan McGregor nails Obi Wan and other times i cring at how bad his acting is. While much of the fault lies on GL for not getting the best out of his actors i feel that his choice of using so much green screen is the real problem with the PT. When actors are forced to imagine what’s around them or even right in front of them, the performance suffers. I’ll take practical effects everytime when actors are involved. For space battles and other scenes that don’t involve actors i actually prefer CGI most of the time…jmtc
The only reason why I want a Kenobi movie is to give MacGregor another go at the character. He crushed it in ROTS (except when he’s fighting Grevious).
Yes I’d like that too but only if there is little or no green screen acting scenes and more PRACTICAL EFFECTS.
Anyone else feel that Finn is a relative of Mace Windu or he is a Skywalker?
Can anyone explain is Disney made this change to the D23 poster and when it occurred?
http://i.imgur.com/BtudLYS.jpg
probably because harrison is lookin old as dirt in the original lol
Fk it im drunk, but damn daisy is so beautiful. not enpugh love for her out there as far as i amn concerned.
You’re beautiful too.
Here’s a cinematic exercise if anyone is interested, go watch Citizen Kane and count all the special effects shots used, some are obvious and some not so, even for shots that actually might have needed one…oh hang on here you go!
https://youtu.be/Rwz4FENS_ok
I love these practical effects and Simon Pegg articles. The comments sections are so entertaining. Keep em coming.
Aaaaaaahhh man. Stop saying CGI is so great. It’s not a question of quality of the image. It’s a question of actors having real interaction with their environment. Period. That cannot be replaced.
Also, the real natural light reflecting on things cannot be replaced.
Rey the new Katniss Everdeen.
Just call her Rey “Everdeen” Solo.
Is it me or have PT defenders have gone from trying to persuade OT purists to give the prequels a chance to outright trashing the original films. Can’t say I saw that coming.
It’s like an Oedipus complex amongst the fan base. I hate my dad and his old Star Wars. The PT fan base have grown into militant iconoclasts. Thank goodness for these new films which will undoubtedly give the new generation an appreciation for the original films.
After the TFA, the fans will be split three ways, it will be a nightmare.
I doubt it. The continuity of characters among other things between OT and ST will at least allow for some harmony.
I agree. Although OT purists will always value the original films, the trajectory of these new movies will allow this new generation of of Star Wars fans to embrace the original films more than the PT generation.
I think there is a real possibility the PT will be the red-headed stepchild after TFA. Most PT fans perceive this, that’s why they can’t stand the OT approach to how these films are being made (effects, concepts, characters, etc.).
Their childhood is being ruined. Oh, the irony.
Ha! I have an 11 and 6 year old who grew up with neither. Here’s hoping these new films give us that bond. It’s like the new Ford mustang (the one that was made to look like the old); I can appreciate it and enjoy it but it’s not the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9_XMTN0QeWI