Possible Cross-Over Between Star Wars: Rebels and the Cinematic Films?


Wondering about the future of the characters from Star Wars: Rebels as far as the broader official canon goes? Slashfilm has a new article posted that raises some interesting possibilities.



The first season of Star Wars: Rebels has come and gone, and we’ve seen some tantalizing footage from the new season that begins in a few short months. Many Star Wars fans have become emotionally invested in the story of Kanan, Hera, Ezra and the rest of the Ghost’s crew, and with so many new Star Wars tales in store for us, it’s natural to wonder if we might see some of these characters turn up in future books or movies.
Slashfilm delves into this in their latest article:


The Skywalker story isn’t the only thing happening with the Rebel Alliance. Why couldn’t the Rebels cross over, not only with Rogue One, which is set in the same period, but maybe even into A New Hope and beyond?


The answer to those questions is: it could happen. This is according to Rebels producers Simon Kinberg and Dave Filoni. We spoke with each at Star Wars Celebration and they said the show is not beholden to any timeline, there could be crossover with the films on the animated show itself, and there’s even a possibility the characters could show up in live action.





Of course, there is currently no concrete plan to make this happen, and indeed Filoni uses the phrase “never say never” in qualifying his statements – almost always a sure sign that a discussion is purely theoretical. However, it’s clear that at least Filoni and the Rebels team have been mulling over the possibilities of such a move:


I think one of the things that’s really fun about Rebels, and potentially some of the films, is there’s a sort of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern version of these stories. I mean, the stories that George [Lucas] told were stories about specific characters in a massive galaxy. And so there are a lot of other characters’ stories that he hasn’t told.


As with Tom Stoppard’s comedic take on two minor but important characters from Shakespeare’s Hamlet, the possibilities for retellings of classic Star Wars tales from the point of view of minor characters is something that has been attempted with in the past with varying degrees of success (Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina, Tales of the Bounty Hunters, etc.) and that is reportedly in the works for some of the new Star Wars books on deck for release this fall. It is only natural that Filoni and company would consider the possibility of placing Rebels characters into the heart of a familiar Star Wars story to see what would happen.





But it’s not just alternate perspectives on previously told chapters of the Star Wars saga that Filoni is thinking about:


I’ve talked to the creators of the other films going on and, you know, I’ve always made it clear if you want somebody, just let me know. They can jump over there. I don’t care. I’m all for it. Because I think it makes the experience for fans so much stronger. And what a moment it would be to see some of these animated characters up there live on the screen. It would be great for me too.


Again, this is all basically just about spitballing various possibilities as of now. But it certainly shows the ways in which the producers of the new Star Wars stories are looking beyond their own projects and toward the new Star Wars canon as an integrated whole.


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99 thoughts on “Possible Cross-Over Between Star Wars: Rebels and the Cinematic Films?

  • April 29, 2015 at 10:51 pm

    I just don’t understand what there is to *love* about rebels. I watched the pilot and the finale. I’m not trying to be that dickhead forum guy, but something about this show is just… Corny… and prequelesque

    • April 29, 2015 at 10:58 pm

      Did you like The Clone Wars?

    • April 29, 2015 at 11:03 pm

      Griffin, I have to admit that I tend to feel rather the same way about Rebels.

      But hey, not everyone does and the news is the news. ;^)

    • April 29, 2015 at 11:12 pm

      Corny I’ll give you, it’s a fucking children’s cartoon geared toward those 7 and up, what do you expect?

      But prequelesque? No, not even kind of sort of. Can’t say I’ve at all encountered cringe inducing poorly written and acted romance plots in this one, or an overall story where the main character isn’t in control of the plot. Nope, not at all really.

      Maybe the problem is you need to get a life?

      • April 29, 2015 at 11:53 pm

        Man… lol can you say overly harsh?…. geesh

      • April 29, 2015 at 11:54 pm

        This is why I hesitate to give my opinion in this forum if some people don’t agree with you some juviniles lower themselves to personal attacks exposing ther ignorance.

        • April 30, 2015 at 12:50 am

          very sad, some people react on others opinion like that!

          • April 30, 2015 at 1:56 am

            Dude who said get a life. I’m sure yours is so fulfilling. Grow up. Let people express their opinions without being subjected to your immature view that only your opinion is valid. I guess… “Sir your Tauntaun will freeze before you get to the first marker” “The I’ll see you in HELL!” was a lil harsh too but not like this…

        • April 30, 2015 at 5:58 am

          He’s a real scumbag, always putting other people’s comments down. Everyone has the right to voice their opinions. Over all, I like Rebels. Some episodes are good, others suck. It’s kind of like Droids back in the day and I didn’t like the Ewoks adventure cartoon. When does new Rebels season start?

          • May 1, 2015 at 8:52 am

            Everyone has the right to voice their opinions to their goddamn selves.

        • April 30, 2015 at 6:20 am

          Nothing juvenile about it, like it or don’t but at least accurately call it what it is. It just flat out cannot be stated how much ALL of the new canon is geared with the OT in mind. The prequels, regardless of their box office intake were not well received and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was pretty much the final nail in the coffin for Lucas. It just can’t be stated loudly enough that Disney is staring far clear of the prequels where they intend to take Star Wars.

          • April 30, 2015 at 9:31 pm

            That is not true. Prequels are well recived.
            EP III ROTS has 80% on Rotten Tomatoes.

            Prequels are 1000 time better than that stupid cartoon.

          • April 30, 2015 at 9:33 pm

            Rebels are mix of both PT and OT. Many PT characters are in Rebels.
            So your statments are faaaaaaaaar from true.

            For Disney both PT and OT are canon. Heter are minority.

      • April 30, 2015 at 9:39 pm

        hmmm Rebels are mix of both PT and OT. I see alot elements of both in that cartoon.

        As for prequels, they are loved by many. OT purists are annoying.

        OT movies are corny. PT are much better.

        • May 1, 2015 at 9:30 pm

          Absolutely not.

    • April 30, 2015 at 12:47 am

      TCW was abit poop season 1

    • April 30, 2015 at 1:19 am

      So you clicked on this story why, then?

    • April 30, 2015 at 3:29 am

      I can’t stand The Clone Wars or Rebels. They are more insulting to Star Wars fans than the prequels could ever dream of being. They have distorted young audiences’ perception of Star Wars. Dave Filoni should feel ashamed.

      • April 30, 2015 at 3:42 am


      • April 30, 2015 at 5:07 am

        When I was young, outside the films, there was Caravan of Courage and Droids. My 6 year old son gets Clone wars and Rebels. He wins.

      • April 30, 2015 at 6:02 am

        Oh watch out we got an OT purist over here

      • April 30, 2015 at 6:25 am

        You’re crazy. Younger audiences aren’t going to have the same perception for the sheer fact that this is fucking 2015 and not 1977 when the original Star Wars was a groundbreaking film bringing to life a high tech fantasy world in a way audiences have never seen.

        And beside that, your perception of what Star Wars is solely your own period. Can’t you people just state why you dislike something without going off into childhood raped territory? Ffs

        • April 30, 2015 at 3:00 pm

          I agree. When Star Wars came out it was like nothing else before it…ever. It forever changed the movie business. It raised the bar for special effects to a height that was unmatched by its predecessors or its peers. It proved that Science Fiction / Space Opera films can become a box office success.

          In 1977, the story wasn’t as important to the vast majority of the viewers as seeing the spectacle that was “Star Wars”. My dad was 12 when Star Wars came out and he admittedly saw the film multiple times in theaters. It was like nothing he had ever seen. He could care less about the prequels and he’s really not that into the Star Wars universe. However, in the early 90’s, he introduced me to Star Wars for the first time.

          I was around 6 years old at the time and I remember clearly the moment that Star Wars came bursting into my life. My dad and I were watching TV and they were having a SW marathon. We picked up on TESB when Luke encounters Yoda on Dagobah. To say I was fascinated by the film is an understatement. “Who was this little green creature? Cool robot! I like his ship. This little green creature turns out to be an old war hero who can harness a mystical energy field to move things of incredible size. Spaceworm! Giant man-dog! Another robot! The man in the black suit with the deep voice is terrifying! Who’s the guy in the gray-green suit with the jetpack?”

          I was hooked. More so than my father ever had been. Whereas my father’s experience was more about how different this film was from any other film and how good the effects were, mine was story based. I was intrigued by the characters of the film. The effects were good, but not the focus for me. I embraced the characters of Luke, Han, and Leia in a way that my father never did.

          I was a teenager during the prequels. As an adult watching the films, I don’t love them, but back then – I enjoyed them very much. My generation as a whole was being introduced to SW for the first time. While these films didn’t possess the magic of the OT, they were still SW and I loved every cringe-worthy minute of it. However, the OT will always be my first love.

          Fast forward to today…my oldest son is 6 years old. His experience with SW was…”Meh…” And my heart sank…I was like, he just doesn’t get it! Then Rebels came out…and he absolutely loved it. And then he realized that that old movie I made him watch that one time is part of this overall story so we watched all 6 films and he enjoyed them all from his new perspective. Now he also enjoys Clone Wars.

          There is a reason that Disney is pushing the OT era with new media (besides the guaranteed revenue they rake in from guys like me). The kids of today are different. The effects of the old film are not enough to catch their attention. The story is not fast paced enough for their overly-saturated-by-media little brains. It took a cartoon on the Disney channel for my son to fall in love with it, and when that happened, he came to appreciate, if not love the original films.

          The upcoming ST will be his true SW experience. In an era where special effects are never groundbreaking, just improving, the story is what matters. Following Marvel’s model for a giant interconnected universe with overlapping stories is what the young generation of SW fans wants, and its what the Saga needs to persist in the modern era of entertainment. Perceptions of SW will continue to change as new media is added to the canon, but is that really a bad thing? If all you like are the original films, then that’s all you need to watch. But if you dare to open yourself up to a rich and ever expanding world for years to come, then Disney has a lot in store for you. I say keep it coming Disney, for the sake of my children who would have never shared my love of SW if it hadn’t been for you. 🙂

          • April 30, 2015 at 6:27 pm

            Wow @ Hard Case that was very well stated. If you don’t already work for Disney’s marketing arm, you should apply haha.

          • May 1, 2015 at 7:49 am

            Hm, never thought about it that way.
            I guess for me, the thing about the OT that places it ahead of the PT is that it’s focus on character.
            That’s really the thing that sticks out more than anything else, the SFX are pretty awesome though.

            The execution at times falls flat, but you gotta respect what they’re aiming for. The thing about every scene of SW and TESB and ROTJ is that every scene is dedicated to showing the characters, Luke and Han and Leia are ALIVE within this universe, even if Carrie Fisher drops a line it doesn’t diminish Leia’s character.

            Now with ROTJ and the Prequels, this starts to change, in the PT, the characters just seem… irrelevant. The film is TOO focused on the plot and not enough effort is put into explaining to us what Anakin’s deal is. At the end of Empire you 100% understand what’s going through Luke’s mind, you know who he is, allowing you to give a shit when his world comes crashing down.

            In AOTC, we don’t ACTUALLY KNOW who Anakin is, even though he’s had 50% of the screen-time. In this respect I actually prefer cartoon-Anakin, because with cartoon Anakin, you take one look at him and you’re like “yup, he’s Lukes dad all right,”
            With Hayden’s performance, it’s like, yeah, he talks, A LOT, he spends most of his time TALKING, but is he SAYING anything actually important? no, not really. So, do I give a shit that he get’s his arm offed by count dooku? no, in fact I chuckle because he literally walked into that one.

            In this respect, I also like Rebels more, just simply on the basis that I’d give a damn if a baddie killed Hera. I actually care about whether or not one of them dies, so credit where credit’s due.

    • April 30, 2015 at 5:33 am

      yeah, like the OT wasn’t corny.

    • April 30, 2015 at 9:46 am

      Griffin I’ll be the only polite and dignified response for you. The pilot was ok, and the finale can only be as good as how emotionally invested you are. I urge you to watch all the episodes. As with any show, kiddy or not, it’s a story. And with stories you need to get the whole thing. Maybe not a dire need, because I’m sure you can fill in some gaps to a point, but the transition and build up is just as important to a story as the beginning and or end. Usually most important to get the effect. Just like clone wars. It is an incredibly good show. Just took awhile to get things going and to get invested. It’s not a wham bam experience. That’s why no one should judge anything in life, until all is known. Ever.

      • April 30, 2015 at 5:39 pm

        Rebels is very, very inferior to The Clone Wars. Anyone who denies that is nuts. The animation, the themes, the characters, the story arcs, etc.,

        Rebels is literally just remaking the original trilogy for little kids. That’s fine, Disney is a business, and they have a right to do whatever they want. But don’t let your love for Star Wars blind you to this obvious truth.

        • April 30, 2015 at 7:47 pm

          “remaking the original trilogy for little kids”

          Damn good stuff if you ask me.

          The animation isn’t as good as CW and they really have to get off of Lothal because the environments are getting repetitive and boring, which isn’t good SW stuff, for sure.

          But the themes are there, the good ones. Not the domestic violence, genocide and robotic love of the prequels.

        • May 1, 2015 at 7:27 am

          Oh I’m not saying it’s near as good….yet. The first season of rebels is not bad by any stretch but it’s not great….yet. But if you compare them properly, say the first season of each, since that’s all we have of rebels so far…I’d say the story is already a bit more deep and engaging. So I have a good feeling about it. Could suck bantha balls though after awhile. Never know. I just wanted to make the point that one needs to watch the middle of any saga or story, just as much as the beginning or end. Because to do so like griffin did at the start of the comments, and then make a judgement, is just a joke.

          • May 1, 2015 at 3:35 pm

            No Rebels is lame.

    • April 30, 2015 at 9:36 pm

      Many people in the world like prequels. Soo it is just your opinion. Different people like different things.

      I prefer PT over OT.

    • April 30, 2015 at 10:28 pm

      Perhaps you’re watching it the wrong mindset? It’s for kids. SPECIFICALLY written for kids aged 7 years (and UP). I think we all fall into the ‘and up’ category but we should temper our expectations. I liked Clone Wars a bit but it was hit or miss with me. Rebels is pretty consistently fun, especially when I watch it with my 4 and 9 year old boys. Some of it is corny TO ADULTS. An animal who inflates himself and gets stuck between the walls of the Ghost is corny but it sure makes kids laugh. A giant, vaginaesque pit with teeth is corny too but there it is eating Boba Fett. Try again in season 2 and see how it suits you.

  • April 29, 2015 at 10:53 pm

    I guess one obstacle to any characters from
    Rebels showing up in the new films is that they would all be quite old. And that the new films already have enough old people who to deal with. You don’t want the films to seem like a sort of reunion special.

    • April 29, 2015 at 11:08 pm

      “I guess one obstacle to any characters from Rebels showing up in the new films is that they would all be quite old.”

      Not impossible to work with, but good point.

      “And that the new films already have enough old people who to deal with.”

      Seriously? You mean we’ve already reached the “old people’s quota” for TFA? -_-

      “You don’t want the films to seem like a sort of reunion special.”

      Actually, a lot of fans do want a reunion of their favorite characters – just not a bad one. How many of the total characters would be classic ones anyway? Probably a dozen or two tops, the vast majority of them cameos.

      • April 29, 2015 at 11:15 pm

        Well, Luke, Han and Leia. Perhaps Han dies in TFA. But probably Lando also shows up at some point in Ep 7-9. Just these core characters seems to me to be more old people than we ever saw in Ep 1-6.

        • April 30, 2015 at 12:03 am

          The world is full of old people. Get used to it.

          • April 30, 2015 at 5:35 am

            The world is also full of women… get used to it…. Oh wait, there’s only two or three important women in each star wars movie, never mind. So what were you trying to say about Star Wars reflecting reality?

        • April 30, 2015 at 3:28 am

          “Just these core characters seems to me to be more old people than we ever saw in Ep 1-6.”

          Only 3 people?! Please…

          – Count Dooku
          – The Emperor
          – Uncle Owen
          – Aunt Beru
          – Ben Kenobi
          – Grand Moff Tarkin
          – various Imperial officers
          – etc.

          Old people rule.

    • April 30, 2015 at 2:39 am

      Seeing as this article is talking about the possibility of Rebels characters showing up in Roge One they wouldn’t be any more than 4 years older. So their age isn’t even a concern in this discussion.

  • April 29, 2015 at 10:57 pm

    Maybe the Rebels characters could one day have their own live-action PG-13 standalone. It would be a sweet way to end the series.

  • April 29, 2015 at 10:59 pm

    I didn’t like clone wars at all. Rebels is alright but it’s still aiming for YA / 12yo audience, so in my opinion the animated series are the ‘kids version’ of Star Wars and there is no place in the movies for that.

    • April 30, 2015 at 6:30 am

      Dude, Star Wars was always for kids. It has never been intended for mature audiences. Just because a lot of adults like it will never change that fact.

      • April 30, 2015 at 5:56 pm

        He’s right. Rebels is lame. It’s boring and childish, and basically an all-around fail.

        The only redeeming thing about it is when Tarkin or Vader shows up. Otherwise the good guy characters are so one-dimensional and flat that I don’t care about them at all. Yawn.

        • April 30, 2015 at 7:53 pm

          That’s a pretty close-minded response considering its a kids show.

          • April 30, 2015 at 10:01 pm

            You can have a kids show and still do interesting characters and compelling story arcs.

            Vader is interesting, Tarkin is interesting….Hera?? Sabine??

            Some episodes worked. Most didn’t. But seriously, this is all well tread ground. There is literally nothing new in this show. This is about getting little kids hooked on the drug called Star Wars. It’s just reusing the OT and transplanting it to a kids show.

          • May 1, 2015 at 9:33 pm

            And it works.

            And the OT is better.

  • April 29, 2015 at 11:03 pm

    no, no and NOOOOOO!

  • April 29, 2015 at 11:12 pm

    You know, Max von Sydow would roughly be Kanan’s age, if that character lived long enough to experience the events in episode 7. Kanan in Rebels actually looks like a much younger Max von Sydow as well. The same could actually be said about Ezra and Adam Driver too 😀

    • April 29, 2015 at 11:21 pm

      Um. No he doesn’t. For one Max Von Sydow is a Ginger, for another Kanan is a fucking cartoon character that doesn’t look anything like Max Von Sydow as much as he looks like he looks like he’s stuck in the 90’s grunge scene. Not to mention he doesn’t carry his presence or his accent.

      However, Star Wars fans have a habit of seeing patterns and symbolism that just isn’t fucking there. See other shit most likely not happening in Episode 7: Anything involving Darth Plagueis, etc

      • April 30, 2015 at 1:14 am

        ^^^ Yep. Almost makes ya embarrassed to be a fan…smh but instead just embarrassed for the Plagueis stans and the other folks living in their own fanfic fantasy lands ::sigh::

  • April 29, 2015 at 11:20 pm

    I would only like to see a crossover into Rogue one since it meshes in the timeline. And I dont want some lame excuse as to how there could be another jedi when Luke and Leia (per Yoda & Obi Wan – ROTJ) are the only ones left. So ultimately in rebels I feel that Kanaan and Ezra must die (or turn to the dark side possibly) but I’m not too keen on any Jedi crossing into the ANH timeline.

    Plus, Rogue One was already described to have the “God isnt here to save us” vibe and wouldnt have Jedi present in the films – so IMO that removes Kanaan/Ezra and I think the only two you could squeeze in are Sabine and/or Hera.

    • April 29, 2015 at 11:35 pm

      I couldn’t agree with you more!

    • April 29, 2015 at 11:37 pm

      Yep, that’s about what I was thinking too.

      And IMHO, this is one reason why I think it’s a bit dicey to keep Rebels aimed specifically at small children. Because in the end, Kanan and Ezra are going to have to die, and Vader is going to have to win.

      “The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, is all that is left of their religion.”

      The goofy little Leave It To Beaver In Space thing that they were doing the first season is going to have to transition into something less kiddie oriented at some point, because that vibe does not jibe with what we know eventually has to come.

      • April 29, 2015 at 11:52 pm

        I think the only way they can make it a happy ending for the kids is if the rebel cells ultimately come together on Alderaan. Regardless, Kanaan and Ahsoka need to die. Maybe they could tie in something where Ezra escapes but seemingly dies so the Empire thinks they’re all gone, and then BOOM he still dies when Alderaan gets blown up. Thats about as much as I want them to bend but not break with this one.

      • April 30, 2015 at 12:10 am

        Technically, Ezra, Kanan and Ahsoka can live until the end of Luke’s training with Yoda, when ghost Obi Wan says “he is our last hope”. Also this statement doesn’t make sense, since force sensitive children are being born all the time, and Yoda and Obi Wan have the ability to use the force to find them. Oh well, Star Wars is so awesome.

        • April 30, 2015 at 1:21 am

          Dekka you are WILD for that AHAHAHA!!!

        • April 30, 2015 at 1:25 am

          All this is just an excuse to have cartoon show exploiting the “almost” original trilogy era. What is said in the movies is canon. Everything else is milking the cow and in that case you found any excuse possible, no matter how ridiculous, to make the show go on. When Tarkin talks to Vader about the extintion, it was crystal clear to me, even when I was just 11 years old, that the extintion took place long, long ago. No last tuestday like they try to sell us in Rebels. There are only two decent ways they could finish the show – have Kanan, Ezra and Ahsoka killed (will you bet on this one?) or the way Clone Wars ended – with no end. Ooooooooor…..do whatever crazy thing you want, to me, it is and it always be the CARTOON STAR WARS UNIVERSE, not the real one.

          • April 30, 2015 at 1:53 am

            Ultimately I think Lucas placing the prequel trilogy and Anakin’s backstory where he did (intertwining it with the clone wars) is to blame for that gap being so small though. I completely understand what you mean about Tarkin’s comment, but even figuring the Clone Wars and abundance of Jedi was only 19-22 years prior, I still think it distorts that comment. I wouldnt say that time frame is a long long time like Tarkin implied.

            At this point the cow will continue to get milked for money first and foremost, but of course the hardcore fans that want to indulge in all facets of the EU like backstories for characters and events to fill the gaps in between. Rebels is touchy because of how close it is to ANH and including multiple jedi/force sensitive individuals

        • April 30, 2015 at 11:12 am

          The only reason other Jedi cannot be around The Return of the Jedi era is because Yoda specifically says that Luke will be the last of the Jedi after he dies and that it’s up to him to carry on the order.

          Without that line, there’s no reason other Jedi couldn’t be around, being a Jedi doesn’t automatically qualify you as destined and powerful enough to defeat Vader and Sidious.

          • May 12, 2015 at 12:13 pm

            But also, who’s to say yoda wasn’t just wrong?? It’s a huge galaxy, and yoda was exiled on a swamp planet for two decades. Stands to reason POSSIBLY he wasn’t quite in the loop. Or maybe he simply thought or knew luke was the only one that could either kill vader, or bring him back to good before he died. Although they will never risk the wrath of fanboys who could never think outside the box…I’d say it’s quite possible that there could have been jedi still around, and yoda not know. Or think they were all gone. I think it simply boils down to Lucas not realizing just how every single line would be scrutinized in a movie 30 years ago, and having trouble having to fill any and every perceived plot hole hahaha.

            The reasons movies are so amazing to me, especially science fiction, is that if you open your mind, and really put yourself there in the movie, you can almost explain anything. Like Yoda maybe simply thinking every Jedi is dead, when in all reality, maybe they weren’t. I mean c’mon, it was a huge galaxy. Stands to reason some could have been hiding out. Or lost their way. So I ask, does every line in every movie, make it an ABSOLUTE for the movie? Or the canon? Think about all the stuff that could theoretically be going on in any movie, while the audience isn’t shown. It’s fiction…not real life.

        • May 1, 2015 at 1:34 pm

          The Force Awakens… maybe they’re telling us something?

      • April 30, 2015 at 4:09 am

        Exactly this. You can’t deminish the original trilogy and Luke’s story by having other Jedi out there. Yoda encounters them, Vader encounters them, so they would be aware that they are out there in the trilogy. Fioloni’s “they aren’t official Jedi they are force users” bs logic is just them trying to make us care about these characters by retconing them into the original story. Just stop it already. I know the story is far from being told but at
        some point you need to have actual conclusions for
        these characters. They wouldn’t just be hanging out not
        Interacting with the main cast or doing anything to take down the Empire during the Rebels most important counter offensive.

        • May 3, 2015 at 8:27 am

          Wouldn’t it be more likely the reason why Yoda said that Luke was “our last hope” was not so much he was a jedi, but because as Vader’s son he was the only one other than leia that could turn Vader back to the Light?. That makes a lot more since to me than he being the only Jedi/ force sensitive person left in a galaxy with billions of beings in it.

      • April 30, 2015 at 5:13 am

        Clone wars had the same problem. Which is why, despite being canon, Anakin CW and Anakin PT are such different people.

        • April 30, 2015 at 6:36 am

          The real travesty is that the prequels are god awful on every level and even fail to tell a basic narrative story with an active protagonist driving the story forward. The Clone Wars cartoons actually fully fleshed out Anakin’s character, the films turned him into a slave to a poorly conceived plot and gave the character no room to breath and come to life.

          • April 30, 2015 at 5:19 pm

            I was happy to watch CW and agree CW Anakin is a more compelling character. The problem is that CW Anakin probably would not have fallen to the dark side and certainly wouldn’t have fallen in the way portrayed in RotS. Given that that is the entire point of the Anakin story I struggle to see CW as canon. It feels like part of an alternative (quite possibly better) backstory for the OT.

          • May 1, 2015 at 1:44 pm

            For me, Darth Vader seems to be a results-driven person.
            I think that Lucas’ original idea – that Anakin just straight-up decided Palpatine was a more effective leader than the Jedi – meshes much better with Darth Vader’s behavior.
            There would have been some conflict over Padme, but Vader’s actually the type to avoid emotional drama, not bitch and moan at the top of his lungs.
            The whole “kill jedi = save Padme” never worked for me, that was the moment I lost all interest in the Prequels.
            Really I think having Anakin straight-out declare war on Mace Windu as a good-old-fashioned traitor would have been way more compelling than the “what have i done?!” bs we ended up with. You never got the feeling that he actually WANTED to be Darth Vader, Anakin’s a motivational train-wreck, completely opposite to Darth Vader’s thought process, I get that going into a lava pit changes a man, but THAT Anakin bouncing back to be a ruthless decisive by-any-and-all-means-necessary sort of leader? No way. Not in a million years would he bounce back like that.

            CW Anakin wins, by a LONG shot.

          • May 12, 2015 at 12:27 pm

            Agreed. I think Lucas was just desperate to get to a conclusion in a time frame (meaning movie time frame) that was far too short. He kinda copped out and was like ok this is the last movie, he HAS to turn dark. Shit what do I do?!? Well he loves padme so much, let’s go with that. After watching the clone wars show, it’s so obvious that Lucas had tooooo much biten off. People may laugh, but the PT was just too deep for the masses. And was done too quickly. Being why there was even a need for the clone wars show.

            The PT I feel wasn’t so much movies about anakin falling to the dark side, but was about the Jedi’s failing and being the problem with “the balance of the force”. Lucas did no favors for himself with crappy dialogue and too much CGI, but I believe he was trying to show how the Jedi were the problem. Even towards the middle and end of ROTS, he started showing that anakin was beginning to notice that but Lucas haphazardly showed that. And went more with the “save padme” Schtick to be obvious. A fail, but still commend Lucas on trying to do too much and feel sad that fans hate on him sooo much. For years upon years Star Wars fanboys are dying to see more of the galaxy and the complexity of it…he tries to flesh it out, and they spit in his face. I’d sell it off like he did too and laugh in every haters face for giving me billions of dollars.

  • April 29, 2015 at 11:47 pm

    I just believe those characters must stay in those lines. Not being bad. Just they do their purpose the way they are

  • April 29, 2015 at 11:52 pm

    Get Lando’s Puffer Pig in ROGUE ONE!!!

  • April 30, 2015 at 12:00 am

    R2-D2 and C-3PO are already the Rosencrantz and Guildenstern-esque characters, that was always the point of them. At first it was conceived as two bumbling beurocrats stuck in the middle of all this stuff going on around them, and it turned into the two sort of bumbling droids with the saga unfolding around them. They are the main characters of the entire series.

    That being said, will be interested to see how they tie it all together, hopefully it’s creative and not “oh look Anakin actually built C-3PO” kind of stuff.

  • April 30, 2015 at 12:19 am

    I’d love to see it happen.

  • April 30, 2015 at 12:28 am

    I don’t know!! Dont like the idea very much but it could be fun to see a real live action movie possibly Rogue One with some rebels characters!! What actor could play kanan or ezra??

  • April 30, 2015 at 12:43 am

    Is the TFA trailer attached to Avengers 2 gonna be any different than the second teaser that was recently released?
    It’d be awesome to get a third trailer but I suppose it’s highly unlikely.

    • April 30, 2015 at 7:40 am

      I saw Age of Ultron last week. Unfortunately there was no Star Wars trailer attached to it!

  • April 30, 2015 at 12:51 am

    Technically, Kanan and Ahsoka are not Jedi, he was a Padawan when the order was destroyed and she left before becoming a full fledged Jedi, also Esra is basically a Padawan. Therefore when Luke is officially given the moniker of Jedi, he is the only one to complete the training and named so by a Master since the fall, actually both Yoda and Sidious call him one.
    Kanan, Ashoka and Esra are nothing more than force users who have a lot of Jedi training, but are not official Jedi’s, period.

    • April 30, 2015 at 1:47 am

      What would they have done to become official Jedis? If you have training what is necessary to officially become a Jedi?

      • April 30, 2015 at 2:42 am

        At some point it bceomes splitting force-sensitive hairs but, You have to pass the trials, that’s canon established in Clone Wars.
        In one of the StarWars.com Rebels featurettes Dave Filoni also stated that Ahsoka now has white bladed lightsabers to reflect her non-affiliation with the Jedi or Sith. Legends calls them dark or fallen jedi meaning they aren’t Sith but they aren’t full blown Jedi devouts

      • April 30, 2015 at 2:50 am

        The trials

    • April 30, 2015 at 8:44 am

      You also have to consider that Luke is far stronger in the force than any of them, and would be the only one who in theory could defeat Vader and the Emperor. And so there would be no hope of defeating them another Empire without Luke…..or maybe another Skywalker such as Leia.

    • May 1, 2015 at 1:49 pm

      Yoda never said there is ONE other Jedi.
      He said “There is another [hope].”
      As demonstrated in the PT, it is entirely possible for someone to be a Jedi but have NO HOPE of defeating the Empire.
      Maybe Yoda pulled a 180 and suddenly learned to judge people properly, and could tell that Ezra -v- Darth Vader + Sidious is a NO-GO.

      It’s never stated clearly but it’s pretty much implied that that “other” is Leia [Jedi Training Experience: 0], so i wouldn’t split hairs over what does and doesn’t qualify.
      Kanan and Ezra are either useless at world-saving, or are dead. Deal with it.

  • April 30, 2015 at 1:20 am

    I bloody hope not!

  • April 30, 2015 at 1:23 am

    Oh Darth Plagueis isnt the suprise role played by Mark Hamill….Damn….

  • April 30, 2015 at 1:30 am

    keep the movies stand alone, stop this cross over crap, we already have to deal with this justice league crap.

  • April 30, 2015 at 3:40 am

    I think it lessens the significance and impact of the original trilogy on the whole saga and Luke if Kanan, Ezra, and Asoka don’t die by the time of A New Hope. It must happen unless like maybe Ezra turns to the dark side or becomes frozen in carbonite for a future turn to the dark side.

    • April 30, 2015 at 6:51 am

      I don’t understand how the same people who complain about the Star Wars Galaxy being too small also think that it’s logical that every single individual associated with the Jedi Order had to have been killed. Every youngling, Padawan, knight, master, agricultural corps member, rogue Jedi, drop out, kicked out, retired, associate of the Jedi across thousands of star systems would have been found and killed over a 19 year period. It is simply illogical and impossible. Heck, they just put a Nazi prison guard on trial recently here on planet Earth, 70 years after the fall of the Third Reich.

      Yes, as Tarkin says, the Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the Galaxy. This is true. The Jedi, as an organized religious order were wiped out.

      And yes, Obi-Wan and Yoda viewed Luke as their last hope to defeat Darth Vader and the Emperor. Not because he was the last fully trained Jedi left, which he likely was. But because he was the only one strong enough to defeat the Sith.

      Now, I think it is quite likely that any combination of Ezra, Kanan, and Ahsoka will not survive through the OT era. Not because of snippets of dialogue in the OT, but because they are at war with the Empire and people die in war. And those that survive into the OT era would not have to appear in any of the films. Where was Ackbar and the rebel fleet during the assault on the first Death Star? Did Han, Luke, or Leia stop by Lothal during any of the films? What were the rebel forces doing after they evacuated Hoth while Leia was enjoying scenic Cloud City? Just because we don’t see someone in the films doesn’t mean they weren’t alive somewhere else in the galaxy.

      Ultimately, the most significant thing that happened in the entire OT is that Luke brought his father back from the Dark Side and they defeated the Emporer. Nothing that happens with any “background” characters can possibly lessen the significance and impact of that pivotal moment in the OT.

      • April 30, 2015 at 3:00 pm

        Thank you.

      • April 30, 2015 at 10:03 pm

        Except for the fact that both Vader and Tarkin know about Ezra and Kannan in rebels.

  • April 30, 2015 at 5:37 am

    I like A New Hope, don’t get me wrong, but I sure would like Disney to go beyond this for future movies and tv shows. Star Wars is worth more than that. It is a great big galaxy with centuries of history. Why focus on just one limited time period?

  • April 30, 2015 at 7:13 am

    “Hey Gareth, this is Dave. Please feel free to use any one of my characters. Yup, just say the word and it’s yours at any time. No I am serious. No, no…they are original and add a lot of depth to the story arc…well, I came up with the design on a napkin on a flight over….hello…hello?”

  • April 30, 2015 at 11:09 am

    Everybody is taking this way too seriously. This is a Sci Fi fantasy film, a story for our entertainment. None of this is real. Let go of your anger, and sense of reality and enjoy what you like of Star Wars. We’re all here because we all have this special thing in common, our love for Star Wars, whatever part of that it may be.

  • April 30, 2015 at 3:51 pm

    I for one really don’t like where this is going. I have a feeling they’re going to try to make sense out of Ezra and/or Kanan existing during the OT, watering down the dynamic of Luke’s position as the last Jedi Knight. Who the hell put Kinberg and Filoni in charge anyhow? They’ve done nothing but completely strangle the life out of everything that makes Star Wars great.

    • April 30, 2015 at 7:49 pm

      It really doesn’t water down anything. Man, you guys need to chill out.

  • April 30, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    “Luke,Luuuuuuke, when gone am I, the last of the Jedi will you be… *cough* *whisper* …from a certain point of view.”

  • April 30, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    I guess Luke just got royally fucked over and lied to… “from a certain point of view”

  • April 30, 2015 at 5:57 pm

    Part of the team which nicks the plans for the DS,c’mon,do it.
    Would be great seeing vader killing Ahsoka and Kanan in an awesome battle.

  • April 30, 2015 at 6:42 pm

    I like Rebels, but this is really one of those things you should just NOT DO.

    As a show, yeah, it’s good, every scene I’ve seen of it I’ve enjoyed [except those friggin’ Wookie monstrosities!], even the spin-saber wasn’t nearly as bad as it sounded on paper.

    That said, it’s just not STAR WARS, THE MOVIE, it really should be treated for what it is: an awesome Saturday Morning Cartoon, and leave it at that.

  • May 1, 2015 at 2:01 pm

    However, considering the scenario, it’s pretty much guaranteed that Kanan and Ezra are no longer Jedis by the time of ANH. Otherwise Luke would have immediately been referred to them to complete his training, and when he finds Yoda, Yoda does Jack-$#*t helping Luke reunite with the other Jedis to stand a better chance [which, granted, Yoda doesn’t do much so it’s kind of hard to judge what he does or doesn’t know], but my point is, the Jedis have to either get some serious personal issues or they gotta die, either ways, it’s not panning out. The most happy-ending thing would be, hm, Kanan scores a major victory, saves the Rebellion, gets injured, and goes off into retirement with Hera. Ezra almost turning to the Dark Side, but deciding to renounce the force altogether for everyone else’s sake, sort of like the option Leia gives Luke in ROTJ “If you think you’re being trapped then run away, LEAVE THIS PLACE” Maybe that’s exactly what Ezra DID, maybe she actually recalls Ezra’s actions when she gives Luke this advice?

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