UPDATE 2! RUMOR: Details on Gwendoline Christie’s Character in Star Wars: Episode 7? Plus the Actress Talks Star Wars.
Back on June 2nd it was announced that Game of Thrones favorite Gwendoline Christie had officially joined the Star Wars: Episode VII cast. Shortly thereafter rumors started to break that she was playing a Stormtrooper. Now, rumors are flying that she’s actually playing a slightly different character. WARNING potential SPOILERS ahead, after the jump!
The rumors started flying immediately after the June announcement that Gwendoline Christie was playing a Stormtrooper with “silver armor” according to MakingStarWars.net:
They said Stormtroopers play a major role, the empire still very much exists and that Gwendoline Christie plays a rogue stormtrooper who wears silver armour.
Well, thanks to Viral’s reporting of the recent Kevin Smith set tour and subsequent Q & A he confirmed that the Empire and Stormtroopers are indeed in the mix:
Due to the non-disclosure agreement, Smith couldn’t say much more but he gave his co-host Ralph Garman a pad with some words to read out which he then nodded to in agreement. When asked, “did you see Stormtroopers?”, Smith nodded his head with the biggest smile on his face.
So it is plausible that Christie could be playing a Stormtrooper. That would be a very daring and ingenious way to go for her character. However, now we’re hearing more rumors from Badass Digest that Christie isn’t playing a Stormtrooper, but rather an Imperial Officer royally pissed-off that one of her legion, apparently Jon Boyega’s character, has deserted:
According to my sources Gwendoline Christie is playing John Boyega’s commanding officer in Star Wars Episode VII, and she’s mad that he deserted. She’s looking for him. She’s an antagonist.
According to Faraci’s sources, Christie’s role was the role that Benedict Cumberbatch was considered for, perhaps even the Sith Lord Latino Review rumored so long ago, and actually written specifically to be gender neutral:
A couple of weeks ago a source told me that one of the characters who had been written as male/neutral in the script had been gender-swapped in casting.
Here’s the quote from Faraci’s source which is very intriguing:
UPDATE: I’m have new info that puts things in new perspectives. She’s definitely hunting Boyega. I think she’s an Imperial officer, but I got one more piece of information that puts everything in a new light:
SPOILERS!
The actress has been training with a lightsaber. Could she be an Imperial officer who has a lightsaber? Or is it something more? I’m hearing the S word.
Having Christie cast as a Stormtrooper would have been pretty awesome and definitely would have broken the mold of an all-male dominated Empire, but having her as a commanding officer, and antagonist, ratchets-up the dynamics even more. It places the idea of an Empire much more into line of an all-encompassing entity, moreover an entity in which people of all races and genders willingly volunteered to serve. However, having Christie play a female Sith Lord carries the drama to untold depths. It also breaks type for Christie by casting her in the role of an antagonist, something that will no doubt, if true, be very fascinating to watch.
These latest rumors come from Devin Faraci of BadAss Digest. Of course, all the salt and caveat qualifications apply, but regardless of how true this turns out to be, it appears that Christie will have a very dynamic role within the evil Empire.
Stay tuned for more developments, possibly as soon as the San Diego Comic Con commences, on this one, folks.
UPDATE!
Since the BadAss Digest rumor first broke Latino Review has chimed-in with some interesting speculation of their own. Their speculation, which is uncited and unconfirmed, is based on hearing a rumor that Jon Boyega selected a lightsaber hilt. IF, as it is rumored, Boyega is playing a Stormtrooper deserter and IF the rumor about Gwendoline Christie playing Boyega’s commanding officer and possibly a Stormtrooper as well also pans out as true, then we could be looking at the original Ralph McQuarrie Stormtrooper concepts in the flesh.
When these rumors are taken together, and remember just rumors, the info seems plausible. In fact, the only negative comment would be that the proliferation of lightsabers would make them less special, yet would allow for more types of villainy, NOT just Sith Lords, combating the Jedi. Either way, all this talk of Stormtroopers suggests that they rise to more prominent levels in the canon and not just canon fodder. We shall see . . .
UPDATE 2!
Gwendoline Christie was doing some “Game of Thrones” signing at the Warner Bros. booth at Comic-Con and briefly spoke about her passion for Star Wars.
From AccesHollywood:
“That was a real, real dream come true. That was like nothing you ever imagined,” she continued. “It’s so burnt into our minds. It’s burnt into my mind. I was shown those movies when I was a tiny little girl and then, to be a part of that thing that you held in such high regard, that’s been your escapism and your love and your entertainment and it’s been not just yours but everyone around you, I’m incredibly lucky. And it’s a lot of fun.”
Be cool if SW would just release THE NAMES who the cast is portraying in the movie. Wouldn’t give up any plot information and would make the fans very happy.
Again NAMES of characters not their TITLES
I Wonder why nobody thinks she will be a wookie…..
Because you don’t hire that recognizable an actress with her specific skill set and then hide her under a big ape suit. Duh.
Sounds like a stormtrooper commander – slightly different armour – silver? – and a lightsabre, which brings back memories of the Mcquarrie concept stormtrooper designs. In armour some scenes, and dress uniform in others.
the darth of tarth
The first of her name?
Her Game of Thrones name.
I know it’s a reference to A Song Of Ice And Fire, I was just adding to it.
Christie is hunting Boyega, Boyega is searching for Skywalker to return his hand to him.
STAR WARS EPISODE 7 : TALK TO THE HAND
So she’s just a stormtrooper who wields a lightsaber, a force sensitive imperial officer/leader of some sort or a straight up Sith. All of which are thoroughly badass. She’s an awesome actress to boot.
Surely you don’t HAVE to be a force-sensitive or a Jedi/Sith to wield a light-saber? Han was able to handle Luke’s saber well enough when he cut open the tauntaun in Ep V.
Presumably you must have Jedi reflectes to be able to deflect blaster fire, though.
I’m getting rather annoyed at this haphazard way of handling lightsabers as though they are something you seem to be able to just buy from the local shop. They are partly so special because they are so unique to just jedi’s and sith. The original idea of George’s back in the 70’s where all stormtroopers had a lightsaber was just awful because it got rid of the rarity and specialty element. Anyway, hopefully Gwendoline is indeed a baddie. She’s rather terrifying at times in game of thrones, probably partly because of her towering height. I can see her as a vader like character. An imperial enforcer who is also a sith. Also love the fact the character was originally a bloke but they switched it to a woman if that’s indeed true.
Other than that one instance where Han used Luke’s lightsaber, what in the world has you pissed off about non-Jedi using them?
Another ridiculous thing people are coming up with to hate.
What are you talking about? Han used Luke’s. He didn’t have one for his own.. Take star wars rebels for instance, there are at least 3 characters off the top of my head that have shown to have lightsabers and I don’t actually think any of them are jedi or sith.
Well if you want to get technical about it, Luke wasn’t a Jedi Knight until the end of RotJ. In theory, None of the younglings were actually Jedi until they became Padawans, and potentially not even until they were Knights.
Again, it’s a silly thing to get mad about.
Don’t claim it’s silly to get mad over. It’s a valid point. Lightsabers were great because of the mythology and rarity element to them. They were something from another age that nobody used anymore apart from jedi as they could do amazing things with them via the force. They were useless to anyone else. For instance without the force, you would struggle to deflect gun fire. People who didn’t know the force used guns as they were a long-distance weapon and much better for them. It’s like history of us on earth. Nobody uses swords anymore we use guns. Jedi use swords because they have the force to go with it. If you haphazardly gave a lightsaber to everyone then it becomes less special and silly. Like I say, the cowboy character in rebels has one. It’s stupid and ruins it. This is a valid point. It’s not a silly thing to get mad about. Should all the characters have lightsabers then? Chewie? 3PO? Or is that still not enough for you to get a bit mad over?..
Grievous had many lightsabers. And I thought that was dumb. I happen to agree that lightsabers are special and should be few and far between.
Grievous would collect the light sabers of Jedi he’s killed. That’s actually pretty cool if u ask me.
I’d do the same.
Souvenirs breh
Yes, but if you have a Jedi take on a bunch of troopers they would be cut down fairly quickly as they are in The Star Wars.
You could have someone with a strong connection to the Force who wields one but are not Jedi or Sith but good with a Lightsaber. Doesn’t mean they can match either of them but against anyone else they would be formidable.
Just because you wield a lightsaber does not mean your formidable. You have to know how to use it and have the skills. Take Raiders of the Lost Ark for instance. Remember the scene where a guy does a lot of fancy stuff with a sword and Indiana just shoots him. That would happen when a non-Jedi has a lightsaber and everyone else has guns.
So a stormtrooper’s gonna get all show-offy with his lightsaber that he doesn’t really know how to use…
…and Han’s just gonna pull out his blaster and shoot him?
Yes, you got it exactly. A stormtrooper doesn’t have the skills and reflexes of a Jedi. Ever heard the expression don’t bring a knife to a gun fight? Same principal.
If the Empire still exists 35 years after ROTJ, then Episode VII will deeply suck.
What if I told you that subverting a government that controlled virtually the entire Galaxy would take decades? Even with their leaders dead, there would still be a massive power-vaccuum and a long series of conflicts before the war would end.
It wouldn’t matter.
Speaking strictly in terms of the narrative, it would undermine the climax of the Original Trilogy, and thus suck.
In terms of in the context of Empire managing to stay together, I find it highly unlikely. The bulk of the leadership and massive hardware was eliminated at the Battle of Endor. Without the leadership and infrastructure maintained, it’s unlikely that troopers would stick around without that infrastructure there to pay them.
But at the end of ANH we had the big celebration, medals and the Death Star went boom. Now I remember thinking in 1977 that was it… The end.
Thank god we didn’t have forums with people saying how lame ESB was because all of a sudden the Emporer has turned up and Tarkin wasn’t the bad ass he was made out to be.
Except that at the end of ANH you had that ol’ horror movie trick. Vader (the big baddie) was still alive, leaving the possibility of a sequel open.
Abraham Lincoln was assassinated 149 years ago, and America is still going.
In Return of the Jedi, they won a single battle, not the war.
Nice. I felt like Lincoln was a tyrant as well.
There’s a significant difference between an elected President with term limits and power restrictions, and a tyrant who seizes power without regard for the rule of law or checks and balances.
It’s unfortunate they don’t teach this in today’s schools.
Actually, Tom, I admire Lincoln. Maybe I should have picked a bad-guy precedent instead?
Anonymous, yes there *are* significant differences between elected officials and tyrants, but I still think my point stands, that removing the leader doesn’t remove the domain led.
The whole idea that the Empire is still around some 30 years after the Battle of Endor? There’s still lots of good story that can be told.
(The celebrations after Endor were very well deserved, but as someone once said, “It ain’t over yet..”)
I’m fine with imperial hold out warlords holding small sectors as they fight each other and the alliance for what little power they can get. But nothing like how strong they were in the original trilogy,a tables turned scenario would be a nice contrast.
I’m with you there.
That’s not the point. Just because something can be doesn’t mean it makes a good story. The emporer could have died in his sleep from natural causes but it would have been a stupid way to end rotj
It won’t mean it will suck. It will just be annoying as it drags what they accomplished in the OT through the mud, and they missed the opportunity to take the story in a different direction. The storytelling and characters still have the same potential to be great though.
The west are still bombing the life out of the middle east, how many years later? Sure the empire can be around 35 years later!
Anyone else hope Stormtroopers won’t take their masks off and spoil the mystique? I’d have them look all scarred and completely spaced out in my version.
In my version, stormtroopers are just regular people, so it doesn’t matter.
Harrison Ford is back in Los Angeles:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2701292/Crocked-Harrison-Ford-hobbles-private-jet-broken-ankle-continues-heal.html
http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/N6GU
There are Sith Lords everywhere, apparently.
Gwendoline Christie could work.
Looking at the image above, she does indeed have that believable rugged look reminiscent of an Ellen Ripley or Sarah Connor.
She also has the body type. I checked out other images of her, and she’s one tall lass, not a frail little thing either.
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Lily+Cole+Gwendoline+Christie+Zero+Theorem+S9hLCXEIihxl.jpg
I do have concerns however after watching this clip in which she sword fights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLUI6GxwNxk
The editing is handled in such a way that we don’t really see Gwendoline’s prowess with a blade. It’s mostly glossed over with quick cuts. In fact, the footage is more reminiscent of a Monty Python skit than a medieval sword fight. That won’t make for a convincing lightsaber battle.
Hopefully they can rectify that with some serious martial arts training.
You’ve never watched Game of Thrones, have you now…
And apparently, you don’t know much about swordfighting either.
Medieval swords were far heavier than Japanese katanas (the basis for the lightsaber) and medieval-type knights are clad in heavy armor, not light robes and/or capes.
Also, Jedi combat skills are based in Japanese martial arts, something that no medieval knight ever heard of. Of course knights in Game of Thrones could never fight, let alone move as swiftly, as Jedi or Sith.
That doesn’t mean Gwendoline Christie could not be taught how to do that by Nick Gillard, or whoever’s in charge of coreographing the ST lightsaber duels, though…assuming she will be wielding a laser sword in the film, to begin with.
lol
I don’t need to have watched the entirety of Game of Thrones to know what I’m seeing in the clip I’ve linked to above.
And it’s entirely unnecessary to have to know anything about sword fighting to be able to see the editing and camera placement tricks the film makers are using to obscure the actresses swings, parries, and thrusts.
Medieval swords are far heavier than Japanese katanas, which makes it all the more unbelievable that a female with undeveloped upper body strength could wield them with any degree of prowess, which probably is the reason for the editorial obfuscation of the sword fight in question.
It also doesn’t eliminate the fact that whether fighting with heavy medieval broad sword, or lighter Japanese Katana, or anything in between, that all would require a certain level of competent prowess to be used effectively.
Being clad in armor vs. light robes, having a lighter weighted sword vs. a heavy katana (in actuality, a light saber wouldn’t weigh any more than the hilt since light doesn’t have mass or weight), in no way affects the manner in which film is edited. This is because sword fighting and film editing are two entirely different and separate fields.
In fact, Jedi combat skills are modeled after a variety of martial arts. This depiction began in Empire Strikes Back when Mark Hamill trained in Kendo for the role. However, when Ray Park played Darth Maul, a combination of martial arts tactics were combined to create a unique fighting style, including those of the Shaolin Monk which is Chinese rather than Japanese.
So the question here isn’t over whether or not a knight from Game of Thrones could best a Jedi.
Rather, the question instead, is if she is not able to portray a medieval knight competently, which the editor is apparently aware of, then how could she competently portray any other martial artist?
This is why it’s so important not to respond with teenage snark when you disagree with someone, particularly when your post is poorly thought out to begin with. It really just makes you look like a fool.
At least Christie isn’t too short for a stormtrooper.
her lightsaber better be named “oathbreaker”
I think she over acts
Women that try to act like men often do.
See Kara “Starbuck” Thrace.
She’s pretty close to how GRRM describes her in the books. She’s supposed to be a personality-less eagle scout.
Is she the female Jim Carrey?
I think she was hired partly due to her swordsmanship. So she will weld a Saber.
Connect the dots/ Speculation Time. It would be sweet if Christie was in fact Boyega’s Commanding officer and she discovers that he is force sensitive from those supposed jedi Hunters or Empire head Hanchos. So to save his life she helps him to escape as Driver’s Vaderesque sith character comes to kill him and tells him to find Luke Skywalker and sends him to Tatooine because Han is there and he is the only one who knows where he is. In his attempt to escape he steels a tie fighter and is shot down over tatooine Where Daisy Ridley’s character a farm girl helps him. But the Empire is after him and kills her family looking for him. Meanwhile Christie is pretending to hunt him. Boyega and Daisy find Han Chewie and Hans son (Oscar Isaac)in a cantina. Han agrees to help them escape the Empire and get to Luke. Along the way we find out Isaacs character had a twin brother who was a jedi under Luke and “died” in a scuffle with the Empire which Han blames Luke for. Eventually it comes out that Boyega was actually a stormtrooper and it turns everyone against him and he must prove himself in battle against the empire. The Empire fallows them to the forest planet that Luke is living on and a battle ensues(The leaked story board description) The stormtroopers cut off the crews escape but the troopers are all shot down by an imperial office who takes off their helmet and we see it is christie who reveals herself to be Mara Jade but is cut down by driver and in her dying breath she tells luke to tell Ben she loves him. The crew escapes. and meet up with the rebellion where we meet Ben (Gleeson)Luke and Mara’s Son. (yes i know she is a lot younger than luke but that is the glory of make up)Boyega reveals the Empire has a super weapon that was eluded to or even shown earlier in the film on an Ice Planet. The Rebels say they already know but their leader Leia has been captured and held there so they must get her out first. Han and Luke say they will go in after her Ben goes with them. Isaac and Boyega lead a fleet of fighters against the empire as a diversion (Isaac in the Falcon the others in X-Wings)When in the facility Luke and Ben both Jedi Knights go to secure their position or something while Han goes to the detention level to rescue Leia. They meat up and have a romantic reunion and kiss and she apologizes for puting the government before him and Han appologizes for being a scoundral and not being able to settle down and losing it after their son died. She asks how Oscar Isaac’s character is. and he replies scruffy looking. On their way out something goes wrong and Leia is shot. Luke and Ben are fighting Adam Driver and Lupita Nyongo in a lightsaber duel. Han holds Leia as she dies and he says I love you and she says I know. She dies and he goes and eventually sacrifices himself to blow the facility and destroy the weapon while Ben and Luke Escape after beating Nyongo who dies and Driver who survives but is injured. Boyega and Isaac defeat the tie fighters. There are some holes in my plot but it is a rough outline. R2 and c3po are in there somewhere lol. This isnt necessarily what I think will happen but it would be cool and it is fun to speculate my plot mirrors A New Hope a lot. In Episode 8 we find out Driver is oscar isaacs brother. Ben and Luke Train Boyega. but the Big 3 are Boyega Ridley and Isaac.
No offense but I hope none of this happens
No Ben Skywalker!!!
No Mara Jade!!!
No of the old EU!!!
Y’all who exceed 50 words need to understand what Comment means!
Don’t need to puke up your Star Wars drivel.
KEEP YOUR IMAGINATION TO YOURSELF!!!!
WE ALL HAVE ONE!!!
Aaaaargh! What is it with people wanting the bloody story to go to Tattooine? It’s boring, we’ve all seen it over and over again! Why can’t they use their imagination and create a totally new world? So frustrating….
Of course there will be new worlds. Episode 7, 8 and 9 will not be soley based on tatooine.
Nick, I like it. Probably won’t be the plot, of course, but it’s about what I’d like to see.
That rambling is so sad and is stitched together assumptions from bad reporting, not even close what we will get.
That was really good!
I think Boyega was a terrible choice for Episode 7, even as a minor character.
Him being Jedi significantly cheapens the entire concept.
Why is everyone assuming stormtroopers have to be baddies? Didn’t PT show that men in white armour will follow pretty much anyone without asking questions? If the empire was dead it’s replacement would still have a military and there’s no reason they shouldn’t wear armour…
I hope she is a good guy
Having her as a female Sith would be awesome.
I think that would suck
I think it’s odd that there so many people seem to think that women are empowered by filling movies with female characters that are essentially men with boobs. As far as Gwendolyn is concerned she has proven to me by her excellent performance in GOT that she can play a convincing warrior. But that part is not for everyone. Not every strong female character has to be “badass” I really hope that this movie is not filled with a lot of little girls and boys dancing around with lightsabers like its an episode of glee
Carrie Fisher wasn’t a man with boobs. I want more women like her, but I also want more women along the lines of Gwendoline, C-3P0, etc.
I want a variety of women in Star Wars, but I want the ones on the battlefield to be portrayed as strong and focused on the fight. Give them equal treatment to men. Let them kill and die.
I think this faraci guy is just looking for attention. Not only does he not have any sources but, I believe, he is making all this crap up himself to get some attention. It’s likely even a personal best in his struggling efforts at creative writing so much so that he thinks it’s actually imaginative.
Okay if it’s right that Gwendolyn is playing dynamic roll in the empire then I bet she isn’t a stormtrooper.
If it’s right she is handling lightsabers. I can only see her playing a inquisitor in the new movie.
I would have preferred to see Benedict as a Sith. Alas, she should be good in the role.
I like Benedict, but I’m so glad Gwendoline won this role over him. I’m excited to see what she can bring to the table.
So this is gonna be Game of Thrones in space? sigh…
Yeah, but think about it – done right, it could be spectacular. Lucas did say that the third trilogy would be more character-driven and philosophical, so “GoT In Space” is possible. But let’s hope that Joffrey gets what’s coming to him ASAP this time. Oh, how we all hated that pr*ck.
I’m starting to ban IPs with offensive content. Especially sexist and racist ones.
Only the opinions of teenage feminists are allowed apparently.
What a fascist standard.
Let’s just hope this standard is also maintained when the feminists go off on tangents about white males.
I don’t think posting borderline-pornography counts as an “opinion”, nor does posting “lol I fapped to Gwendoline Christie”. Which is pretty much what all the spammers here were doing.
Silencing the opposition is the only option available to fascists when they come to the realization that their own arguments are incapable of withstanding debate.
So Viral Hide, it’s either “yes” to Boyega boning Daisy Ridley aboard the Falcon, and a big “hell yeah” to Threepio having a gay encounter on Tattoine, or we get our IP’s banned.
Got it!
Next step is closing the comments section.
First, the “Dislike” button, now this. What’s next, Christmas? 🙁
I think thats a bad idea.
Here lies the fruit of diversity.
Viral Hide….get rid of the “Anonymous” option and you will eliminate the cowards that hide behind it and post all this crap.
?????WTF?!?!?!?
Anonymity has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Um, perhaps your message would carry a little more weight if you posted it under your “real” name, as opposed to “anonymous”.
My name is Mr. Anonymous as far as you are concerned… but ironic and funny that you are also anonymous. Let’s try to stay on topic.
No, you’re just words on my screen as far as I’m concerned.
But to all this, I wasn’t even talking to you. I was talking to Anon@July 23, 2014 at 20:51 PM. I find it hilarious that an Anon. commenter would ask for the Anon. option to be banned. That’s all.
And since it wasn’t me who posted that comment, I can use the Anon. option if I so desire…lest it is banned, that is.
I couldn’t agree more… just be more careful which comment you hit the Reply on, lest we get all confused.
Anonymous free speech has a long and proud history going back to the pamphleteers of the American Revolution. There’s nothing cowardly about it.
The primary reason opposition wants names to statements, is so that they can punish those who express opinions that they don’t want expressed. It’s a fascist sentiment.
So folks are right minded to be cautious of fascists who demand the names of those who make anonymous statements.
Please don’t. On slow news days the arguments are really interesting. I don’t understand why people can post videos in the comments section though. Should stop that if you can…
Unfortunately, only one perspective is allowed to be expressed on this blog.
If you’re not going to allow the free flow of ideas, then there’s not much point to having a comments section anyway.
the silver armor rumor is obviously a the creation of some unimaginative dude who can’t disassociate her from game of thrones (siver armor??) come on fake rumors originators, be a bit creative at least
Exactly. I thought the same
Why not Tilda Swinton, She would be perfect for an imperial commander/inquisitor.
https://www.google.dk/search?q=Lana+Del+Rey&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=RYrPU5CPIJGy7Abz14HoBw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1561&bih=1007#q=TILDA+SWINTON&spell=1&tbm=isch&imgdii=_
True, she would be brilliant. But Gwendoline is still a wonderful younger british and unkown equivalent.
so whats the film about? an officer looking for a deserter , han n co looking for luke , the ongoing fight against the empire , the rebuilding of the republic . hope they dont put too many threads in and make it a confusing mess.
I think with the writers on board the central plot will be apparent when we see it – the others will simply be strong motivators for the characters.
Besides, as Viral Hide & co rightly say we should be taking this with the required amount of salt. With work rosters and numbered scripts it would be pretty easy to pinpoint who to fire for these leaks… and why wouldn’t you sell tips to a bigger site/magazine than Badass? No offense to them, however.
I might receive a lot of hate for this but ever since i heard the description of the character: imp officer, vindictive enough to go on a personal manhunt for someone who deserted his post – all i can think about is Daala. If they make her a feminist and jedi hater it’s just Daala 95%. Giving her a lightsaber would probably be an attempt at making her into a sith apprentice of the late Emperor.
TBH, i hope they don’t go for both. Make her either an imp commander or a sith but doing both would sort of ruin the character for me.
I don’t hate the rumor, but I can’t say it excites me either. The big hurdle is getting the audiance to invest emotionally in the new characters.
A female commanding imperial officer is interesting enough. Why bother giving her a lightsaber?
Very true. But the lightsaber is probably just an add-on like vader.
Relax, it’s just a rumor.
Worry when you actually see this character wielding a lightsaber. More so if it’s named “Oathkeeper” lol.
I forgot about Grievous, though I completely understand why he had them. He was “the bad guy” and it showed how he could kill Jedi as well as, in the duel with Obi-Wan, that just having a lightsaber(s) doesn’t make you capable of wielding them well.
Oh, and yeah, still not enough to justify being “mad.” It’s still a movie. I get the feeling that nothing will please some of you at this point. That’s a shame. You’re so worked up over two instances in 6 films where someone other than a Jedi used a lightsaber. That’s pretty sad.
Yes. I know it’s a movie.. I’m not allowed to not like things in a movie?
“You’re so worked up over two instances in 6 films where someone other than a Jedi used a lightsaber.”
Oh dear god. How many times do I have to tell you? I never said that’s the problem. I’m saying lightsabers should be used sparingly in general so they create more of an event or a climax when they are pulled out, and they should be owned by jedi and sith as it’s been established they are a “jedi weapon”. These are valid points. You have not once argued why I am wrong. You have just specifically told me I cannot get annoyed over it and said “that’s pretty sad”.. Is there any other uncalled for bigotry you have for me while you’re at it?..
Hey hey, don’t sweat the guy, you’re entitled to your opinions just as well as he’s entitled to his. Don’t let it get under your skin. On your point though, I think I agree, lightsabers shouldn’t be a common occurrence. But, if she turns out playing a force-sensitive/force-trained officer/trooper of some sort, it’d make sense she’d be given one. It’d be interesting to see other interpretations of Force-adepts.
True. I just get miffed when people say my totally valid points are just somehow silly and I’m not aloud to think that way lol. I do agree with you. If she’s fluent in the force then she can have a lightsaber. Similar to vader. Although I think it’s a bit hit and miss. For instance I wouldn’t have ever made yoda or emperor have a lightsaber but they are indeed fluent with the force. I guess it’s to do with if they negotiate in combat or not. If gwendoline’s character is fluent in the force and goes in combat like vader then I’d totally be up for it. General grievous for instance wasn’t fluent in the force so I just found it very video-game shlock like. Especially the fact he then had 4.
I agree. The last thing we need is even more force-sensitive characters. Why can’t a powerful, intimidating, tyrannical commanding officer be enough? Tarkin was a great villain and he had no force-manipulating capabilities whatsoever.
I’m fine with force sensitive characters. I just don’t want there to be important characters like tarkin for instance who aren’t force sensitive, yet they have lightsabers. Grievous for example.
Not liking and being mad are two different things. The former is fine. Like I said, only twice have we seen non-Jedi use lightsabers and you don’t know if any non-Jedi or Sith will use them in the ST, so I guess this is once again more of a OT vs PT fight. Of course the use of a lightsaber seemed more meaningful in the OT Because there was a total of 5 Jedi and Sith left, and only 3 of them ever used a lightsaber. Contrast that with the PT where there’s thousands of them and of course the “impact” is going to be lost, or at least different.
Also, you don’t know who will be using and when they will be used in the next trilogy and we really don’t know everything about Rebels yet. Just not sure why you’re worked up about it. Just seems like one of those many things that people are concerned about so that they go into the movie expecting the worst.
What is wrong with you? I am just putting my opinion out there that I don’t want them to go overboard with lightsabers. I NEVER CLAIMED THAT THEY ARE, I AM JUST SAYING MY OPINION ON THE MATTER.
“Of course the use of a lightsaber seemed more meaningful in the OT Because there was a total of 5 Jedi and Sith left, and only 3 of them ever used a lightsaber.”
That’s what I am saying. I’m saying I liked that and I want them to go back to that. How dare I have an opinion on things right? gahasdfghjklkjhgf
“Also, you don’t know who will be using and when they will be used in the next trilogy.”
Yes. For the 100th time. I know. I never claimed I did know what was happening. I just simply put out my opinion of what I would like and what I would not like.. What is so difficult about this concept? Why are you still arguing with me?
I don’t think you know what an argument is.
I was just saying I think you’re being overly critical and setting yourself up for disappointment. I was just trying to figure out why it seemed like such a big deal to you (as it obviously is).
You’re the one who has gotten way too offended over freaking lightsabers. Rage on.
Viral, I strongly advocate closing the comments section. It’s beyond out-of-hand.
And I strongly advocate banning anyone who suggests that censorship is a good idea. Oh, the irony.
State your reasons.
No. They are self-evident. If you can’t understand the virtues of free expression of ideas, then enjoy your Marxist, nanny state.
Enjoy your left hand.
Great comeback. Especially from the guy who is quick to agree with those spouting off the virtues of making this a kid friendly site. Oh the irony, again.
I win.
Yay, Ryan.
Then don’t comment, read the article and be on your way, no one is advocating you run through a comment section.
Well then, isn’t that fun. How about we grow a sack and allow some common sense discussion? Everybody gets too damn worked up about this sexism stuff, when really there is no reason to. Whether you want the movie to be realistic or not, it doesn’t have to be a heated debate about sexism.
Viral Hide – I fully appreciate that this is your website and you can do with it what you please, but for what it is worth I think you set a dangerous precedent by simply eliminating discussions on these boards. Although some people may post crap due to their frustration about the sexism issue, it does not change the fact that there is a legitimate debate here about realism vs. sexism. There is no faster way to diminish the interest in this website than by silencing the voices of those that have made it as popular as it is. If it were my website, I would tread carefully before wholesale censoring the legitimate discussion… again, for what it is worth.
Take it to a feminism blog then. We don’t need things like feminism blown incredibly out of proportion on a site dedicated to Star Wars.
Don’t misinterpret what I am saying, I personally think the issue was blown way out of proportion, too. I just don’t like seeing entire boards swept clean because somebody with thin skin gets “offended.”
ive stopped my kids looking at this site now …. supposed to be news about an upcoming childrens film but is just full of foul mouthed adults shouting abuse at each other
I hear ya. This site is poorly controlled.
Ryan i don’t thinks so, i’ve seen worse.
Star Wars movies are not “childrens films”.
you may enjoy them as an adult , but they were/are made for children , time and again in various commentaries and articles children are referred to as the primary audience by the people who made them (cutting dookoos head off “thats exactly what a 9 year old would want to see” – dvd comentary) , why else make 5 of them u certificate and one a 15 ? to claim they are not is silly – the best you could distance them from childrens films is “family films” wich is basically the same thing.
This is maybe the dumbest thing I have read on here. Just because there is a “kid friendly” rating does not make it a movie aimed at children. Just look at all the extreme violence and adult themes throughout the saga and it is clear this is not a movie directed at children. Any animated Pixar movie is a movie directed at children, even though they contain a certain amount of adult humor to keep parents entertained, too. Star Wars is the exact opposite. Very adult oriented material with some “cool stuff” thrown in for the kids.
“Children’s film”? How *dare* you!
I don’t approve of all the comments here, but I do love the freedom.
Well tell your kids not to read the comments then. We can’t please everyone out there. And sorry but I can’t be on alert 24/7 watching if anyone will post some BS.
viral in the first line of the post i said ive stopped my kids….. i dont need anyone to police them for me .thats my job . its just a shame i have to . modern world and all that
Didn’t parents monitor their kids back in olden times, too?
In fact, many of them enlisted the services of watchful neighbors and other highly esteemed members of the community to dole out corporal punishment as they saw fit.
Its a shame you have to take care of your own kids ?
It’s odd, as much as Lucas likes to talk about it being for kids, it sure has a lot of severed limbs, bodies (alive or dead) being burned, death, and, strangely, the murder of children.
Just saying.
Planetary genocide , torture , ect.
Right. When you say kids movie you generally mean “G” rated. There is a reason these movies have always been rated Parental Guidance until the last one which was for no kids under 13. It’s the merchandise like the toys that got marketed to kids and I think that is where the confusion lies.
The original Robocop movie was rated R and still had toys marketed towards kids, plus a Robocop cartoon and several Robocop video games.
Ahhh, glorious blood squibs! xD
they are u certificate in the uk … the lowest “all kids can go” rating , except for sith , that pg or 12 i think.
Exactly, and not to mention when Obi-Wan kills Grievous by blasting him in the heart a few times and inflames and dies…but it’s cool because he brushes it off with a “humorous” …”Such an uncivilized weapon.”
Lol and Luke in the Darkside Cave…cuts off Vader’s head to see that it’s his own head!
Yeah…Kids films.
Wow…….. I can feel your hate…….give in to your hate it will make you powerful……
……the dark side is strong in here
Be mindful of your emotions they serve you well but they could be made to serve the emperor.
Lighten up people it’s just a movie series, albeit a great series just be happy that we get to see the old gang back and hopefully it will be awesome
Canon fodder. Heehee!
The Lightsaber: an elegant weapon for a more civilized time. Ha! Not anymore.
I am getting sick of everyone using McQuarrie as a substitute for originality.
They are using McQuarrie because he was a genius who’s amazing designs have not yet been fully utilized on screen. Ralph McQuarrie’s art is as large a part of the Star Wars universe as George Lucas’s story vision. To not use his concept art would be a huge mistake. They are using it to make this a unified universe along with new designs.
Sh^t, man. I’ll take McQuarrie over anything original they’ve come up with for Rebels ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
Light sling shot or whatever the hell you call it? Twirling dual lightsaber? A bulky ship named Ghost? ^_-
Lightsabers always were Force-users weapons… It is hard to imagine to see normal “soldiers” wielding such weapons. Christie´s Character has to be something more than an officer…
My guess is that these aren’t normal troopers, but Force sensitive troops that use lightsabers against Jedi ala The Inquisitor. It makes sense to use Force users now that the Rebels have gained the upper hand and the Jedi are on the rise to some degree. I doubt they are Sith, but they may be seeking knowledge to become Sith or just as powerful (or more) as them.
If SW7 is going to have lightsaber duels, then others besides Jedi have to have them.
My money is on Nightsisters with lightsabers.
Han and Leia had two children, a boy and a girl. Though they weren’t twins. The elder boy was said to have died in childbirth, but [spoiler caution] was secretly raised by Max Von Sydow’s character. A girl, “O…..” was born a few years later. The male offspring won’t show up until the next film [which takes place nearly a decade later]. This is why only one offspring has been cast for Episode 7.
Any idea why Episode VIII would take place a decade later?
I don think that is gonna happen. How would you make all the characters look 10 years older yes they could use a lot of makeup but that’s kinda dumb. I think 7,8,9. Will have a few years between them maybe ten years between 7,9 that at least gives the characters some Time to age and change their appearance some
Sorry I liked my own comment by mistake