Benicio Del Toro Says He Plays an “Intergalactic Villain” in Star Wars: Episode VIII!

Benicio Del ToroWhile speaking to an Italian magazine about his current and upcoming projects, Benicio Del Toro continued to hint at his villainous role in Star Wars: Episode VIII. Read on for the details…

 

 

Benicio Del Toro playing a villain in Star Wars: Episode VIII is something that many expected and it was discussed here before numerous times. Here’s a brief chronology on Benicio’s role so far.

 

First back in July 2015 it was the Wrap who first reported that Benicio Del Toro is considered for a villain role in Rian Johnson’s take on the galaxy far, far away (HERE):

Benicio del Toro has the offer to play the villain in Star Wars: Episode VIII, multiple individuals familiar with casting process have told TheWrap. Discussions are still in the very early stages, but Disney and Lucasfilm are high on the Oscar-winning Traffic star.

 

Three weeks later Del Toro expressed his confidence to ET Online that he will get the part (HERE):

I can’t tell you much about it but I think that it might happen. It looks like it’s gonna happen so I’m very excited. I can’t talk too much about it. The script is hard to get. They told me they’d cut my finger if I talk about it.

 

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Then in September 2015 comes the very interesting interview Del Toro did for a Spanish magazine (HERE):

Benicio Del Toro: Star Wars is coming up, we will see how that turns out. I think we start shooting in March. They don’t let me talk too much about it. I’m like the villain. But… we’ll see…*laughs*.

 

This sounded like a pretty solid confirmation, but our Spanish friend Altgr0160 from the Cantina elaborated on the translation clarifying that when Benicio explains that his role is the villain he doesn’t seem to be 100% sure. He says “es como el villano”, “he is like the villain”. If he was sure about it he would have said: “es el villano”, “he is the villain”.

 

Then in several other interviews Del Toro started denying that he will be playing the villain which seemed more like damage control, but many people were confused.

 

In an interview from January 2016 the actor revealed that he will be travelling to Englan in the spring to shoot his scenes (HERE).

When asked if he is playing the villain in Episode VIII Del Toro continued to mess with the fans saying:

You know, I’m not supposed to say, but that’s what’s out there, so I’m not gonna try and fight it.

 

Benicio-Del-Toro-as-the-Collector-in-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy

 

Now finally the Puerto Rican actor gave direct confirmation that he is indeed playing a villain in Episode VIII. Or did he?

 

While speaking with the Italian magazine Grazia, the actor was asked about his 5 year-old daughter Delilah (from his ongoing relationship with Rod Stewart’s daughter Kimberly Stewart), and revealed that he is looking forward to the movie that he will be part of and that will be suitable to show her.

 

From Grazia.it (translated via Google):

Q: Perhaps Star Wars will be the right film to see Delilah. Or will it be a drug dealer even there?
A: And who knows? We’ll see, I’ve never played a villain intergalactic. Seriously, perhaps the film will not be suitable for her, but my dream is to take her with me at least to the premiere, on the red carpet.

 

Some people might jump to the conclusion that this is a pretty good confirmation that Del Toro is playing a villain in Episode VIII, and not just a random villain, but an “intergalactic” one! But his wording is again making it sound like he is messing with us.

Immediately after he said “intergalactic villain he used the phrase “Scherzi a parte”, which means more “kidding aside” than “seriously”. So, as before, he makes it sound like he is joking. So as you can see nothing is still set in stone. While we do believe that he will be a villain in some capacity, it’s still unclear if he will be pure evil character that has an important part in the movie, or more like Simon Pegg’s character Unkar Plutt from The Force Awakens.

 

So what do you think? Is Benicio Del Toro going to have a role of a major villain in Episode VIII, or perhaps just a human general or something? Tell us what you think in the comments below.

 

Special thanks to Cantina member MagnarTheGreat for finiding the quote.

 

 

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127 thoughts on “Benicio Del Toro Says He Plays an “Intergalactic Villain” in Star Wars: Episode VIII!

  • August 8, 2016 at 7:18 pm
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    Obviously BDT’s talents allow him to play a wide range of characters. Whatever his role may be, big or small, I have little doubt it will be great. I’d prefer that role to be as an antagonist. Perhaps someone internal to the FO’s upper hierarchy or KoR who is an adversary to Kylo Ren vying for influence (just as Hux is). Or perhaps, assuming any of them are still alive after TFA, a Senator of the Republic who was/is sympathetic to the FO and works to undermine the efforts of the Resistance from within. Whatever the case may be I look forward to finding out what BDT’s role is and preferably sometime before December 2017.

  • August 8, 2016 at 7:29 pm
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    Kind of a given really. I don’t think anyone really expected BDT to play Fluffy McScrubles the happy space bear. 😉

  • August 8, 2016 at 7:34 pm
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    I like Benicio, but if his character is written like Kylo Ren, no thanks

    • August 8, 2016 at 8:50 pm
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      what do you mean?

      • August 8, 2016 at 10:09 pm
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        I mean that Kylo Ren is the worst villain ever written, he’s weak, he’s a poser, he wears a mask without any reason except to look badass, he throws tantrums like a spoiled little brat. THAT is not the main villain you want in a Star Wars movie or in any decent movie. THAT is parody material, Space Balls stuff, dark helmet, not the successor of the baddest villain in the history of cinema.

        • August 8, 2016 at 10:18 pm
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          I loved Kylo as a villain because he was executed differently than your regular villain. Do you really think that JJ and Kasdan were not aware of this?

          • August 8, 2016 at 10:43 pm
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            I think JJ and Kasdan are lazy and can’t write, what is Kasdan known for? Only ESB and it’s actually George Lucas that is too nice to shame him in public because it’s all George’s work. I think Kathleen Kennedy interfered in the story, she wanted a “female empowerment” movie. Before even hiring JJ Abrams she told Michael Arndt to write “a female Jedi story”, that’s the only thing that mattered because she has daughters and wanted her daughters to look up to a strong female lead, and weak male villains. That’s why the main lead is a Mary Sue and the main antagonist is ridiculous. According to Kathleen Kennedy, no girls could enjoy a Star Wars movie before TFA.

          • August 8, 2016 at 11:01 pm
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            George doesn’t even like ESB but he left it to Kirschner’s edit because he’s an auteur.

            George’s story for the ST had a female protagonist.

            Many girls latched onto Ahsoka Tano as SW fans – another example of George Lucas desiring a strong female Jedi character, way way back.

            Kasdan also wrote Silverado and worked with Lucas and Kennedy and Spielberg on Indiana Jones. You can nullify history on the internet, but it doesn’t actually change real history.

            I’m sure SIM City is still pretty popular.

          • August 9, 2016 at 12:02 am
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            No, ESB was George Lucas and he was always there to tell he him what he wanted, he explained that in the Charlie Rose interview.

            We don’t know the SW story with a female lead, it was an early draft, I only saw an artwork and she seemed to be Obi-wan’s sidekick. Obviously he didn’t go for this story, and even if went, it wouldn’t have been Mary Sue in space, I’m sure. I don’t hate female characters, just don’t serve me with the poster child for the 3rd feminist wave.

            About Indiana Jones, if you want to know who wrote it, read the transcript of the brainstorming session. It was all Geroge Lucas ideas, Spielberg brings some ideas, and Kasdan only listens. I believe Kasdan was brought there by Spielberg who likes to push his friend’s career because the guy was completely unknown.

            http://maddogmovies.com/almost/scripts/raidersstoryconference1978.pdf

          • August 9, 2016 at 12:18 am
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            No, Kershner himself states George had very little impact on the shooting of ESB and never actually gave any input on the days he showed up to set. He would sit far in the back and not interfere. Only when Harrison Ford changed the line from “I love you too” to “I know” did George object.

            When Kershner and the editors decided that the “I know” was better, George test screened it, and although the audience reaction was as he thought it would be, he still allowed it out of respect for the director as per the auteur theory.

            George wrote a 10 year old that constructed the fastest pod racer ever and another 20 year old that never flew a starfighter but managed to survive an entire space battle when dozens of more experienced pilots perished. Marty Sue is the hero of the week, always.

          • August 9, 2016 at 11:56 am
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            If George didn’t interfere with Kirchner’s work, it means he liked it.
            Anakin was a little genius, but he would have never been able to build podracers if he wasn’t sheltered by his mom and Watto. Anakin as a lone scavenger struggling to find food would be ridiculous. But then again, there is a difference between building robots and beating a trained Sith in a lightsaber duel. Had Anakin single handedly killed Darth Maul, he would be a Mary Sue.
            Luke had to be constantly helped or saved by his friends, got beaten throughout the trilogy. He has nothing to do with Mary Rey Sue which is nothing but Kathleen Kennedy’s feminist fantasy. She was always in the shadow of Spielberg and Lucas and for the first time she was allowed to decide the story of a movie.

          • August 10, 2016 at 12:28 am
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            Lucas put her in that position. He put her in that position.

            Anakin was 11. Rey’s an adult. Maul was trained wholly by Sidious, and clear on his mission. Kylo was half-trained by two different people, and is already more complex and not one-sided.

          • August 9, 2016 at 3:16 am
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            If you really love the minutiae of this franchise the way you claim to, you should really understand more about ESB Platinum. The film is not at ALL what Lucas wanted, he fought Kersh the whole way but was largely unable to influence him as Lucas was stuck in the States during most of actual production, and Kurtz was running interference on behalf of Kershner. He did fly over to try and take the film out of Kersh’s hands and cut his own, faster, snappier version of the film, which he ultimately had to admit didn’t work,but that’s hardly being ‘there to tell him what he wanted”. Lucas repeatedly expressed the opinion that Kersh was worrying about making the film better than it needed to be, and just wanted him to shoot what was on the page as fast as possible. Now, a large part of that is I think likely due to the fact that Lucas put up all of the money for the thing himself so there was massive risk to him personally, the film was over-budget and behind schedule, but the fact remains that it’s not at all the film he would have made. Now JEDI, on that film it’s very, very unclear and blurry as to how much Lucas directed and how much Marquand did, so you might be thinking of it, but that’s specifically BECAUSE Lucas decided he wasn’t going to have the film get away from him like Empire did.

          • August 9, 2016 at 11:42 am
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            These are rumors and hearsay, I never hear Lucas complain about Kirshner or Kirshner complain about Lucas. I never heard him say the he doesn’t like ESB. Lucas doesn’t talk too much so we don’t really know what was going on in his head. He picked Kirshner himself, nobody forced him to, and if he didn’t like what was going on, he could have hired someone else, you know, like what Kathleen Kennedy is doing with Gareth Edwards.

          • August 10, 2016 at 12:31 am
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            They’re really not. Read the making of book that came out along side Empire (haven’t read Rinzler’s, so can’t comment on his book) – the tension is obvious on that shoot.

          • August 9, 2016 at 3:22 am
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            All true, but let’s be equally clear about Kasdan’s output SINCE the 1980s. Not exactly an inspiring resume.

          • August 9, 2016 at 3:57 am
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            Neither was Lucas’ – who really worked on Star Wars and Star Wars only.

            The Bodyguard, French Kiss, Wyatt Earp – all not terrible projects for Kasdan in the ’90s.

          • August 10, 2016 at 12:29 am
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            Not sure how you figure he worked on SW and SW only. He didn’t have scripting duties (thank god), but Lucas is still the genesis of each of the stories for everything but TFA, and even then it’s not clear. Those films aren’t bad, but certainly not the height of Kasdan’s work, and I tend to view them as a sign of declining…ambition? Hunger? Not sure what exactly.

          • August 10, 2016 at 2:59 am
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            Are we not in agreement that Lucas didn’t work on anything in the 90’s other than reworking the OT and then starting the prequels?

            As much as Lucas is responsible for what film is today, its disingenuous to think he has provided any compelling stories outside the SW and Indiana Jones universe since 1989. Coppola himself said it: “We were robbed of whatever else George would have made” because he got so embroiled in one property.

            I’m feel its equally disingenuous to handicap Kasdan, a screenplay writer, just because he didn’t work on ‘compelling’ work in the 90s, especially considering he actually did work on films that many people enjoy. And I’m not holding it against him that he didn’t do anything other than the films aforementioned, for George, unfortunately, didn’t do anything that wasn’t SW after 1989’s Last Crusade.

          • August 8, 2016 at 11:39 pm
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            again, george lucas’s initial story starred a female protagonist. it had nothing to do with “female empowerment” or kathleen kennedy.

          • August 9, 2016 at 12:22 pm
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            George Lucas and KK are two different persons. If GL made a movie with a female lead, which he didn’t, it wouldn’t have been the feminist 3rd wave fantasy that KK did.

          • August 8, 2016 at 11:56 pm
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            Lucas can’t write. He is horrible with dialogues, characters and basically human emotion (especially love). To him two people falling in love happens because they are beautiful people happen to be in beautiful places, like some bad Shakespeare parody…
            I think this is pretty obvious (or it should be) since the prequels. If you’ve seen the deleted scenes of ANH even there you get a really strong prequel vibe from the dialogues…
            Both ESB and ROTJ are as far from beeing a Lucas product as possible in the question of writing. Not even a single line resembles anything George Lucas in any way. And Lucas actually hates ESB till this day.
            Btw Kasdan has 3 oscar nomination for 3 non-Lucas related films.

          • August 9, 2016 at 12:27 am
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            You’re still bashing the prequel romance between Anakin and Padmé but give a free pas to TFA’s which is entirely made of one-liners and colloquialism. George Lucas dialogues have elevated language which is more pleasant to listen to.
            “you tak firsht, i tak firsht?” Droid Please!

          • August 9, 2016 at 12:38 pm
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            Not just love or dialogues, but basically human emotion, plot and characters aswell. His dialogues are often bizarrly out of place, like ,,Now this is podracing!” told by an 8 years old who never left his comfort zone in an entirely uncontrolled, strange enviroment during a battle sequence where people constantly die and things keep blowing up.
            The Geroge Lucas dialogues feel incredibly vague and unnatural, kind of how a movie written by google-ai would sound like… Not suprisingly though even the original cast had problems with it… Alec Guiness was even an uncredited writer to ANH, because he rather worte his own lines than the scripted ones…

            Btw what one liners do you mean in TFA? And what is supposed to be wrong with ,,colloquialism”? I mean if thats the proper language in a certain conversation between certain characters than why does it matter?

          • August 10, 2016 at 1:46 am
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            Sure. Let’s play quotable Prequels. Lay on us some of these brilliant lines of dialogue he’s written?

          • August 10, 2016 at 1:44 am
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            George Lucas is a hack. Prequels prove it. Go on and talk him up more.

          • August 8, 2016 at 10:55 pm
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            Exactly my thoughts. I like kylo as a confused poser of Vader. Snoke is just emotionally manipulating him. I’m assuming Snoke is the real successor of evil. I wouldn’t be surprised if the entire first order is his ruse in the same way the separatists were just dummy villains for palpatine to throw under the bus once he had his throne.

          • August 9, 2016 at 12:20 pm
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            I think JJ and Kasdan don’t care at all about SW and those characters, it was a rushed movie. After Kathleen Kennedy fired Michael Arndt, she brought them to make something quick and dirty that will cash on nostalgia laced with feminism and fake advertisement. It’s not that they aren’t aware, they don’t care, they treated SW like the pilot for a random sci fi TV-series.

          • August 10, 2016 at 1:44 am
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            Or mirrored the first film which changed how movies were made and viewed forever?

        • August 8, 2016 at 10:58 pm
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          Vader wasn’t the villain though, was he? haha

          • August 9, 2016 at 12:23 am
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            He was, until he came back as Anakin

        • August 8, 2016 at 11:37 pm
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          i think what you’re failing to understand is that abrams and kasdan aren’t complete morons. they INTENTIONALLY wrote kylo ren like that, and i think it adds a lot of depth and conflict to his character. it would have been so boring if he was a darth bane-style villain, who just mows down everyone with ease. this gives them room to develop his character over the next two films.. i honestly think he was one of the best things about the film. i think driver’s performance was fantastic. i’m not saying you aren’t entitled to your opinion, but i think your understanding of the character might be a bit askew.

          • August 9, 2016 at 11:59 am
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            He was intentionally made as a weak tantrum throwing nerd who looks like an emo kid. People in the theater laughed when he removed his mask, we don’t even know why he removed it and why he was wearing it.

        • August 8, 2016 at 11:54 pm
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          He’s a villain in becoming. Like anakin was.

        • August 15, 2016 at 10:10 am
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          That’s the whooooole point.

  • August 8, 2016 at 7:38 pm
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    “Intergalactic” ?!?!?
    I thought this was about A Galaxy far far away. Not Galaxies far far away.

  • August 8, 2016 at 7:41 pm
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    I could still see him as Thrawn. Probably not the case, but he would play the character well.

  • August 8, 2016 at 7:45 pm
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    I’m not surprised. It follows the tradition introducing a new villain with every episode.

    • August 8, 2016 at 9:37 pm
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      Agreed, though it seems imbalanced. Maybe Hux or Phasma should of hit the dirt in VII. Personally I would of made Phasma stand out a bit more a the start and then have Finn get some revenge/justice for the villagers,

  • August 8, 2016 at 7:54 pm
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    I was convinced he was a shoe in to play Jaxxon…………

  • August 8, 2016 at 7:55 pm
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    Soo, Intergalactic ay? Didn’t they say the Han Solo movie(s) could explore different galaxies somewhere as well?
    Exciting stuff.

  • August 8, 2016 at 8:12 pm
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    I think intergalactic is taking him a little too literally. I don’t think we’re seeing the introduction of another galaxy. He’s just saying that this takes place in another galaxy. To us, he’s intergalactic.

  • August 8, 2016 at 8:14 pm
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    cue the people vomiting out “Del Toro might be playing Thrawn” speculation again now

    • August 8, 2016 at 8:58 pm
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      Oh my. I f only this we’re true.

      • August 8, 2016 at 10:00 pm
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        it’s extremely unlikely and I imagine anyone hoping for it is going to be disappointed

    • August 9, 2016 at 6:01 am
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      Well, with Thrawn’s recent resurgence, it would make sense. Plus, it would be exactly what Star Wars fans have been hoping for, characters from novels/animated series crossing over to the movies, and vice versa.

      • August 9, 2016 at 7:03 am
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        That was my thought, but i’m trying not to get my hopes up for that since that was my same logic for Snoke being plageius after he mentioned in Tarkin, one of the first new canon novels. I would LOVE him to be thrawn, but I feel like the fact that they let the cartoon have the big reveal is only because they had no plans for the character. Lucasfilm dosn’t have a big precedent for letting major spoilers for the main trilogy drop elsewhere beyond very tiny nuggets in books.

      • August 9, 2016 at 2:05 pm
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        The voices wouldn’t match based on who was cast to play him in Rebels. But yeah, it’d be neat to see him in a movie now, won’t lie.

        • August 10, 2016 at 3:29 am
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          I agree. Then again, who knows what kind of voices BDT can do.

  • August 8, 2016 at 8:26 pm
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    Pretty sure he meant intergalactic very generally to mean “existing in a galaxy that is not our own” rather than implying anything meaningful about the character. I wouldn’t read anything into it. However, if he did mean intergalactic in the literal definition, it would make sense. Basicly all the canon media such as Aftermath, Episode 7 etc. have been building up the idea that great power is in the unknown regions which is where the First Order’s might seems to come and unless I miss my guess, is where snoke is from also.

  • August 8, 2016 at 8:35 pm
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    “We can’t stop here ! It’s the bat’s country”

    “My medicine !! Where’s my medicine ?!”

    “Sweet,sweet Mary …”

  • August 8, 2016 at 8:38 pm
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    Are we diffusing tension by having too many villains? I know in the original trilogy, there was Darth Vader and the Emperor, but the most intense and central figure in all three was Darth Vader. I would imagine that the main focus here should be, Kylo Ren with Snoke taking on a similar role as the Emperor.

    • August 8, 2016 at 9:05 pm
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      I think the issue is that we considered Vader a villain for 2 whole movies (maybe more). Here, we know who Kylo is and the only question is whether he gets redeemed or Luke or Rey get to kick his ass. So the ‘drama’ of his villainy may be in question.

      We didn’t get that for Vader, he was still menacing up until he and Luke speak on Endor, and the relationship is apparent and that hint of redemption starts to seep through.

      • August 8, 2016 at 9:28 pm
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        What are you talking about? Kylor Ren already got his ass kicked in the first installment, I know it’s unbelievable but JJ Abrams did it. Now he lost all credibility which makes any sequel with him as the main antagonist absolutely pointless.

        • August 8, 2016 at 9:55 pm
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          That’s exactly what I’m talking about – if you care to understand what any of these movies are about.

          • August 8, 2016 at 10:04 pm
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            About grabbing cash very fast without caring about creating 3-dimensional characters that we would care about and a story that isn’t a 40 years old rehash? If not, I don’t know

          • August 8, 2016 at 10:27 pm
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            Viral Hide, shut this guy up!

          • August 8, 2016 at 10:31 pm
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            Sorry master…

          • August 9, 2016 at 6:00 am
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            I like the sound of that.

          • August 8, 2016 at 10:30 pm
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            why don’t you block me if my posts are hurting your feelings?

          • August 9, 2016 at 12:33 am
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            Dude, you have a ‘block user’ feature. Use it. Beleive me, he’s a lot more pleasant to be around when he has the conversational ablility of an 8 bit villiager, and all I see from him is ‘This user is blocked.’

          • August 8, 2016 at 10:53 pm
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            Blame the original Vader in 1977 for not being 3-dimensional – which Kylo is close to being (oh, but is that a difference between ANH and TFA, a hashed out villain with flaws? Uh oh!)

          • August 9, 2016 at 12:20 am
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            no, the difference is that Vader is the best villain in the history of cinema and Kylo Ren is a pansy, modeled after who? JJ Abrams?

          • August 9, 2016 at 12:24 am
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            Kylo Ren is trying to cement his place – thus “with your guidance” and “Snoke is wise” but I guess you weren’t paying attention to the movie.

            And you shouldn’t be writing movies, thank the Maker.

          • August 9, 2016 at 12:31 am
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            He has years of training with Luke and Snoke, there is absolutely no logical explanation as to why he is so weak. The story is absurd but I know why, Kathleen Kennedy didn’t want to the girl to be beaten, let alone having a limb severed, so they reversed the outcome of the fight.

          • August 9, 2016 at 12:39 am
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            He got shot. That’s in the movie too, if you saw it, its also in the book.

          • August 9, 2016 at 11:45 am
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            Let’s admit that stupid plot device, he lost to Rey because of his injury although he had no trouble toying with Finn or force pushing Rey against a tree. But how do you explain that not only his mind rape didn’t work on Rey, but she reversed it on him! He wasn’t injured and still doesn’t have a single day of training.

          • August 9, 2016 at 3:10 pm
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            Finn wasn’t good with melee weapons, even the stormtrooper with that electric tonfa beat him. Rey’s been fighting with her staff for years (and also force sensitive) that is why she was better.

            On the mind read: I think Kylo was surprised that someone actually can resist him. He never experienced something like this before. Yes he read probably hundreds of minds, but porbably non of them was force sensitive. Probably he only faced force sensitive enemies ones, when he destroyed Luke’s academy, but we don’t know the circumstances. I’m sure he didn’t read minds there. He didn’t even think about that someone actually can that against him. He tried to read Reys mind so desperately he didn’t pay enough attention on anithing else. He didn’t fail because he had lack of skill, or because he wasn’t strong enough, but because he wasn’t experienced enough.

          • August 9, 2016 at 5:00 pm
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            Yet Rey has zero experience AND zero training, but had no trouble defeating him. Finn is weaker that Jar Jar Binks, he lost a lightsaber duel to a random stormtrooper then hold up a fight against Kylor Ren before getting his ass handed to him. It’s just doesn’t make sense, you’re making excuse for idiotic writing. It’s just not well thought at all, it’s rushed and logic was thrown out of the window. JJ and Kasdan think if there are enough mindless action sequences, you won’t pay attention to the gaping plot holes and inconsistencies that occur every 2 seconds!

          • August 10, 2016 at 1:43 am
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            Yeah has combat experience after having survived on Jakku. Please see the beginning of the movie.

          • August 10, 2016 at 12:30 am
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            “allegedly” doesn’t have a single day of training – however the Force already spoke to her in a detailed force vision. Luke had to go through tons of training from Yoda before he was exposed to a Force vision.

            Finn was a stormtrooper…..who lost to another stormtrooper in a melee – thereby Finn ain’t nothing in a melee fight. Rey likely has more experience with a melee weapon than Finn does. So, no, you’re weak there.

          • August 10, 2016 at 1:41 am
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            Rey is a vergence in the Force. A very young Anakin Skywalker once destroyed a Trade Federation Battleship using the Force in an “Oops” moment because he too was a Vergence.

            Why couldn’t an adult woman who’s fought for survival her entire life on a hostile world not be able to harness the power surging through her once she finally let go of her fear of being forever abandoned by the family she never knew and longed to be with?

            I know, I know. It makes too much sense and shows how absolutely wrong you are. I’d be embarrassed and deny it, too. Don’t worry.

          • August 9, 2016 at 2:58 am
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            You have no idea how far his training went with Luke before he stopped training.

            And it’s extremely obvious Snoke isn’t allowing him to power creep his use of the Force to present a threat to Snoke’s own authority and dominance.

            But then again, you just want to whine incessantly about everything and complain about at a bunch of people who love the films and will obviously give you the negative attention you need to feel like a real person for a few minutes every day.

          • August 9, 2016 at 11:37 am
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            You certainly didn’t steal your nickname. Kylo Ren can stop blaster shots mid air, do his business for a minute then release it, he can extract information from people’s mind, he can move people like ragdolls by telekinesis. All these skills are far superior than what Darth Vader was able to do, it says that he must have had a very advanced training in the Force. You just don’t wake up with this set of skills. Yet he was beaten bu an untrained little girl both in the mind rape, she reversed it on him and a lightsaber duel! Logic failed!

          • August 9, 2016 at 2:01 pm
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            Vader could steal thoughts, as demonstrated by discovering Luke had a sister in ROTJ.

            Vader deflected blaster bolts with his bare hands.

            Vader created a telekinetic whirlwind which ripped the interior of a room apart and then flung it at Luke until he was thrown from a window.

            Vader has kept an Imperial Walker from crushing him, lifted it up off himself and thrown it aside, in Rebels.

            Ren is more powerful than Vader because he stopped a blaster bolt in midair?

            Butthurt failed. Try thinking instead of whining. It might suit you.

          • August 9, 2016 at 3:22 am
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            “Supreme Leader is WISE!”
            Ouch…that line though, that LINE! Yikes.

          • August 9, 2016 at 12:15 pm
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            What about the close ups on his weird face?

          • August 9, 2016 at 6:56 am
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            But isn’t that compelling? A weak boy with a insane legacy he can never live up to struggling to be evil just to have some semblance of an identity beyond “the prodigal son”. If we need a powerful, grand, evil foe then that is probably Snoke or del toro’s character. Kylo’s tragic desperation to be great is part of what makes him interesting. If he was a masked, confident badass who chokes people then he would be even MORE of a cheap vader clone (Now THAT would be lazy writing). I know that probably wasn’t the direction you wanted them to go with the character, but you have to realize that it was an artistic choice that many fans enjoy.

          • August 9, 2016 at 12:12 pm
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            It only makes him pathetic and representing no threat , there are no stakes.

          • August 9, 2016 at 2:04 pm
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            Reasoning with this guy only gives you a head ache.

          • August 9, 2016 at 2:56 am
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            I wish someone would care enough to turn you into a three dimensional character.

        • August 8, 2016 at 10:18 pm
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          I’m not sure. Kylo was more likely an apprentice in TFA, remember, Snoke said in the end that it’s time to complete his training. Kylo was not ready, he just tried to seem like he is. He failed, but he can learn from his mistake, and now he wants revenge for sure, and that makes him stronger than ever.
          Will he be redeemed? Or killed? Or will he be able to get his revenge? We don’t know, and that is why he is intertesting. Isn’t it interesting that we actually see the villain evolving?

          • August 8, 2016 at 10:47 pm
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            It doesn’t make any sense at all. Kylo Ren has been trained by both Luke Skywalker and Snoke in a period that goes beyond a decade . However, he needs to complete his training to face back a random scavenger who hasn’t got a single day of training, just learn about the Force 2 hours ago, never held a lightsaber or ever heard of the mind trick but somehow already mastered all of it! Training is useless in the new SW, you don’t have to waste your time, you only have to close your eyes, and if you hear that little music, it means the little Force fairy has empowered you, and you’ve become a Jedi master immediatly.

          • August 8, 2016 at 11:18 pm
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            Isn’t the title the force awakens? The force awakened in Rey that’s why she could do all the things (I admit that she was way too strong but remember Anakin destroyed a trade federation capital ship on his own in a fighter he only know for like 5 minutes)
            In that fight Kylo was injured seriously by Chewbacca. We’ve seen what that bowcaster did to stromtropers.
            But it’s not the only reason he lost.
            I think he was overconfident, because he could do what even Snoke thought to be too much for him, he killed his father (even Vader couldn’t betray his son at the end, which is almost the same case) Kylo thought that after that really nothing can stop him, and he overestimated his power, and lost.
            I still think that defeat doesn’t make him weak, if he can learn from his mistake. He can become the badass villain that you wanted to see.

          • August 9, 2016 at 12:17 am
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            There is no Force fairy in Star Wars, whoever you are, you need training to become a Jedi, that’s why there is an academy. Fairies belong to Disney cartoons.
            Anakin destroyed the ship by accident, and that was criticized by the fans, but he didn’t beat Darth Maul in a friggin lightsaber duel! That’s exacrly what Mary Sue does in TFA!
            The bowcaster shot is a lazy plot device, they inserted that scene where Chewie uses it for the first time apparently! Han Solo makes sure you understand that this weapon is damn powerful. I’m surprised he didn’t stare directly at the camera and said “got it? wink”

            Kylo Ren kills his dad in cold blood we don’t even know why he’s so angry, I would assume his dad threw away his XBOX. And btw, what was Kylor Ren doing on that bridge to nowhere??? It’s like, let’s just sit here so I can reproduce the Vader versus Luke scene from ESB!
            Ren will never be a badass villain, he has no credibility, if his character made a 180° turn, that wouldn’t be the same character.

          • August 9, 2016 at 1:29 am
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            Well something had to be at the other side of that bridge otherwise there would be no bridge at all. Kylo wanted to check that place to be sure Han is not there. it’s that simple. Just because we doesn’t see what is there, it not means there is nothing there.
            I don’t get why you don’t like the bowcaster, it’s been well eplained that it’s a strong weapon, and Kylo surviving being shot is really a huge thing. And he even stood up and fought. Where is the problem, why is it a lazy plot device?
            Kylo was really something new we haven’t seen before, not that perfectly badass villain we saw in every movie. He is an original character. I don’t know why you keep complaining about him, you said that the biggest problem about TFA was unoriginality.
            It seems based on your comments that there is nothing you really liked about TFA, (and probably you see no possibility of the upcoming movies to be better). Then why are you here? Why do you keep complaining? TFA won’t be any better, if you really hated that much, then just hope the other movies to be better, and talk about what you expect from them, what you think about them. If you really lost your faith in star wars just find an other saga that you can love, or stay with the old movies.

          • August 9, 2016 at 2:55 am
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            Funny. Without any training, Luke Skywalker blows up the original Death Star pretty much by himself.

            Using the Force.

            Hm.

          • August 9, 2016 at 11:37 am
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            Too much McDonalds provokes amnesia.

          • August 10, 2016 at 1:07 am
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            Obviously, it’s probably why you completely forgot that Luke destroyed the most powerful weapon ever conceived in the Star Wars universe by himself, using the Force, without any training.

            Unless Obi-Wan teaching him to get shocked by a training probe for 2 minutes qualifies Luke to be more bad ass than Rey.

            Treat yourself to a milkshake. May help you forget being schooled. Again.

    • August 8, 2016 at 9:33 pm
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      Got to agree that the way the villains are hyped up are maybe hurting the film. Everyone’s looking forward to learning more on Snoke that Kylo I would imagine, plus we’ve Phasma who’s suppose to be having a larger role, and finally Hux will still be in the mix. Now we’ve another big villain possibly?

    • August 8, 2016 at 10:47 pm
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      IMO they should have let phasma die on starkiller base, but instead they are trying to retroactively boost their character by increasing their role in the second film while simultaneously introducing new villains. I get that people were disappointed she didn’t do more in TFA, but I hope they wouldn’t change things just for one minor villain character. Hopefully this was always the plan.
      Maybe snoke will step out of the shadows in this episode. I love kylo and hux’ characters, and phasma was fine. Complexity is awesome to have in our villains, but I still want them to be scary. None of that trio is scary beyond hux’s shouting.

      • August 9, 2016 at 1:19 am
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        I have to ask – what is it about Hux that you love? I mean…he doesn’t actually do anything, and we find out nothing about him.

        • August 9, 2016 at 2:43 am
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          yeah, maybe love is too strong of a word. I appreciate what they were going for with hux as sort of a hitler-in-training political rival as the tarkin to kylo’s vader. But yeah, he really dosn’t get much to do- which goes back to my problem with having too many villains with each not really being scary or well utilized. But Hux I see as still having a lot of potential. His speech was intense and I could still see his character evolving past the defeat at starkiller base to become a formidable foe. Phasma is a bit of a lost cause for me because no matter how scary or evil she is in episode 8, I will always have in the back of my head “hey remember that time you lowered the shields and were thrown into a trash compactor without a struggle”

          • August 9, 2016 at 3:27 am
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            K, I can get behind that. He didn’t really work as a villain figure for me in fact because of his big speech – he’s ranting and raving, and just totally losing it. Sure it’s an analogy and a blatant riff on HItler’s more loony-toons public speeches, but I think playing it more reptilian and cold, like Cushing did, is scarier. Gleeson is a good actor though, and I hope they do more with that character in the next two films.

  • August 8, 2016 at 8:43 pm
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    All the other movies of his I’ve watched and I still see him as Fenster in The Usual Suspects. Maybe his intergalactic villain will threaten Finn and Poe with “Gimme the kriffin’ keys, sucker, I’ll flip you, flip you for real.”

    • August 8, 2016 at 9:06 pm
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      Kylo: In Galactic Basic, please?
      BDT: ‘kuse me?

    • August 8, 2016 at 9:54 pm
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      wow, so Fenster was BDT in Usual Suspects. i ve learnt something here. Shame on me. lol

  • August 8, 2016 at 9:10 pm
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    Its safe to say that Benicio is a class actor having played some great characters across a wide variety of movies; However, I can’t see his role going further than Rogue One due to the time line……..wouldn’t mind seeing him as an bounty hunter though!
    Plus the ‘intergalactic’ wording made me think; This word imparticular is usually used alongside bounty hunters in the graphic novels, books and other expanded universe material. I’m not sure I’ve ever heard it mentioned in context with the Sith, Jedi or other folk. Thats just my thoughts though.

  • August 8, 2016 at 9:37 pm
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    He’ll play King Prana. Oh yes

  • August 8, 2016 at 9:48 pm
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    Fun fact: Benicio was originally cast to play Darth Maul, but left when Lucas decided to take out most of his dialogues…

  • August 8, 2016 at 10:27 pm
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    I think he will not be a force user or a First order member, more likely a crime lord like Jabba (I like the idea of him playing king Prana), or a bounty hunter. I just can’t imagine that there is enugh space for an other main villain, we already got Kylo and Snoke (and Phasma and Hux), so I think his role won’t be that much.
    Or he can be one of the Knights of Ren

    • August 8, 2016 at 10:52 pm
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      Beastie Boys is a favorite of a certain producer of Star Wars….and Star Trek……..

      • August 8, 2016 at 11:02 pm
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        I know that, but I was making a joke of Benicio’s statement. ;3

  • August 8, 2016 at 11:39 pm
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    Perhaps he just dropped that word because it sounds “spacey” and didn’t fully weigh what it means. Please… anything but the Vong.

    • August 8, 2016 at 11:58 pm
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      I’ll second that. Not wise to buy stock in that ‘intergalactic’ part.

    • August 10, 2016 at 6:03 am
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      I think you’re right; he just used the term because, as you said, it sounds spacey.

      Though I like the YZV. I wouldn’t mind seeing them canonized at some point. 🙂 But not in this trilogy… it wouldn’t feel right.

  • August 8, 2016 at 11:52 pm
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    King Prana.

  • August 9, 2016 at 12:28 am
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    gangster/mob boss.

  • August 9, 2016 at 5:58 am
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    THRAWN. THRAWN. THRAWN!!

    • August 9, 2016 at 6:57 am
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      We can dream 🙂

    • August 10, 2016 at 2:59 pm
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      Thrawn doesn’t make sense timeline wise, unless Thrawn has become over 100 years old…

      • August 11, 2016 at 2:40 am
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        Who knows how long Chiss live?

  • August 9, 2016 at 7:03 am
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    My only concern is the film will get too congested with key villains. Ren, Snoke, Hux, Phasma and now a new character? Seems a little cluttered, unless a few meet their end.

  • August 9, 2016 at 10:32 am
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    If TFA is anything to go by he’s most likely playing the role of a betrayer, as in Lando Calrissian’s role in ESB.. but I hope they’ve got something fresh on the table for Ep VIII.

    • August 9, 2016 at 12:02 pm
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      He’s the administrator of an underground city.

  • August 9, 2016 at 10:50 am
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    I don’t think they’d get Del Toro to play a really minor part..

    • August 9, 2016 at 12:01 pm
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      Tell that to Max von Sydow

      • August 9, 2016 at 8:33 pm
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        True, but didn’t Max Von Sydow beg to be put into the film? I always figured they landed him a small role since they changed the original opening scene in TFA.

      • August 9, 2016 at 9:47 pm
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        Wow, even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.

      • August 10, 2016 at 6:02 am
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        At least MVS didn’t go around talking about being in the film.

  • August 9, 2016 at 11:14 am
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    If he’s a villain, I kinda hope he’ll be a Crime Lord.
    Or else Thrawn…

  • August 9, 2016 at 5:09 pm
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    I predict that he’s not a villain and it’s a relatively minor role. It’s just like the secrecy surrounding Star Wars movies these days to get a high profile actor to go out and make vague statements about his role in the film when he’s barely in it.

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