SWNN’S Star Wars: Rebels – Midseason Review/Preview

Rebels 08Now that we’ve all had a few days to watch, re-watch and likely repeat watching the trailer for the 2nd half of Rebels season 2, it seemed like a good time to take stock of what has happened so far, as well as look forward. Before season 2 kicked off, we listed 5 things to look out for in the coming adventures of the Ghost’s crew. Most of them have yet to come to fruition or haven’t been fully realized up to this point. However, we have gotten some signs and portents that these things are on the horizon. More after the jump … 

 

 

Let’s start by taking a look back at what’s happened so far this season. The main device driving the plot forward has been the rebels’ need to find a new base of operations, especially considering that Lothal has become an Imperial hot-spot. The reasons for this are both clear and still mysterious. The rebels usage of the Imperial communications network, as well as two Force-users, naturally called for a ramp up in Imperial presence. We know that Lothal is a also a key industrial planet for the Empire in the Outer Rim. However, via the late Minister Tua, we also learned that Emperor Palpatine has another specific interest in Lothal that is known to only a few. Tua was killed before she was able to expand on this idea.

Our band of rebels have become much more than just a small cell of insurgents since being driven from Lothal. They have now taken on greater responsibility with the rebel cell known as Phoenix. Hera has become the commander of Phoenix Squadron and they are part of a small fleet led by Commander Jun Sato. The crew has even expanded, welcoming an old friend of Ahsoka’s, Captain Rex.

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The other main plot thread has been Ahsoka’s investigation into the Sith Lord (Darth Vader) that the freedom fighters encountered on Lothal. It seems that either she knows the true identity of the dark-sider or is holding out until she’s 100 % sure. Along the way, the crew has picked up two Force-sensitive children, who were being hunted down by the Inquisitors, continuing a dark objective of Palpatine’s dating back to The Clone Wars series and reintroduced in Vader’s mission statement to the original Inquisitor in the series premiere film. They have taken on the task of protecting these children of the Force. It will be really interesting to see how this all plays out, as we are increasingly being introduced to more and more Force users in a galaxy that we originally thought had very few during this time period.

The rebels found a temporary home on Garel, only to be driven away by an Imperial invasion fleet. They have still yet to find a more permanently viable option for a place to call home. Ezra has also learned that his parents passed away trying to spread a message of hope against the Empire’s oppression, while freeing many of the oppressed from the Imperial prison on Lothal.

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We’ve learned a bit more about both Hera and Sabine’s backstory. We discovered that Hera used to dream of flying since the days she would look up at the sky while on Ryloth, during it’s occupation. This little is morsel is fleshed out as we are introduced to a prototype of the B-Wing starfighter.

Sabine used to be a bounty hunter and nearly joined the Black Sun, before deciding against this life. Her best friend was a bounty hunting partner, named Ketsu Onyo. Despite their friendship being broken through betrayal, they run into each other and are initially forced to work together unwillingly against the Imperials. However, there is a glimmer of hope that their friendship may once again be renewed, as well as the introduction of a potential anti-hero ally for the burgeoning Rebel Alliance.

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One other cool little nugget was the introduction of interdictors. We see the Imperials using gravity wells to actually pull ships out of hyperspace.

The second season has been enjoyable so far and still has that “Star Wars” feeling. The most exciting moment for me personally was getting to see Ahsoka in action with those nifty samurai-style white lightsabers. She has always been an exceptional fighter, yet here we see a much more refined and controlled version.

The first half has done a good job of establishing clear themes for the season, namely the search for a new rebel base and the investigation into the Sith Lord. The mysticism of the Force also has seemed to be a central point of focus. I really like how this show and the The Clone Wars, in addition to The Force Awakens, have dealt with this thematic aspectRe-mystifying one of Star Wars’ central components seems to be a task of great importance for the Lucasfilm Story Group.

Despite good setup and a tendency for shows to hold off on the payoff of main plot threads until the back end of a given season, I do feel that the story has drifted off course at times, though only slightly. With more episodes on the slate than the previous year, we were bound to get some fluffier installments. Still, I feel that even though there’s been some movement on the agents of the Darkside front, the search for a rebel base has been a bit underwhelming.

To start the season, Rex gave the crew a list of potential planets to set up shop on in the outer rim, yet we haven’t seen much more on this endeavor. I feel that in some of the episodes where our crew has gone on one-off adventures, there could have been a plot point involving the search. It would have been nice to see an episode or two where the rebels scout out a potential base-planet, only to discover something dangerous or disastrous that leads them to cross this one off the list.

While the second season has featured some fun adventures, many have lamented the slow burn to the overarching story. However, the new trailer has sparked the idea that this season will fall in line with the intense pickup of movement in the story that played out in the first season. Let’s revisit the 5 things we looked forward to possibly seeing in season 2 and what’s actually occurred vs. what’s potentially still to come.

 

1. Ahsoka / Vader Showdown – 

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We’ve really only had the groundwork laid down for this one. In the premiere, Ahsoka and the two quasi-Jedi were able to pool their connection in the Force to get a stronger read on Vader. It appeared that Snips was most likely aware of just who they were sensing, yet she’s remained relatively silent on this matter up to this point. We learned that the Inquisitors were pleasantly surprised to come across Ahsoka (the White), stating that their master would be very pleased with her capture.

Dave Filoni has mentioned that Sidious and Vader believe Ahsoka to be a key in locating other existing Jedi. Filoni had already hinted after Ahsoka owned both the new Inquisitors in a lightsaber duel that there were more important sword fights to come (notice the plural used there). We finally got the first glimpse at what will surely be an epic and emotional showdown in the new trailer. Another interesting thing of note is that Ahsoka will hear Anakin Skywalker’s voice (reprised by The Clone War‘s Matt Lanter) in her mind. This will surely make things all the more emotional and tragic. The big question now is how long we’ll have to wait to see their blades cross for the first time.

 

2. The Darkside of the Force – 

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It’s been said that we will learn a lot more about the Inquisitorius’s origins and structure, in addition to more detailed information on the now deceased, Grand Inquisitor. So far, we’ve only learned that they work under some kind of ranking structure, ala the Fifth Brother and Seventh Sister. In the trailer we see Vader interacting with the group, as well as the introduction of yet another inquisitor. More and more will likely be revealed as the season moves along.

Darth Maul was featured in the midseason trailer. This little bit is incredibly intriguing. Maul’s fate was left open at the end of the Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir comic mini-series. Based on the events of this story and The Clone Wars, it’s safe to bet that Maul isn’t an Inquisitor. Palpatine did mention in TCW that he had plans for Maul. The so-called plans turned out to be using Maul as a fish hook in a death trap set for Mother Talzin. It would be hard to imagine the former Sith Lord’s plans coinciding with Palpatine’s, considering Sheev not only massacred his people on Dathomir, but also his mother. What is the troubled Zabrak up to?

We’d also already seen a few warning signs in both season one and the first half of season two that Ezra is vulnerable to the darkside. One moment in particular was Ezra unwisely attempting to take on both inquisitors, despite Kanan’s protest to hold back (see Obi-Wan unsuccessfully advising Anakin to be patient before their duel with Count Dooku in Attack of the Clones). In the trailer, we see not only Ezra interacting with Darth Maul and messing with what appears to be a Sith artifact, but also a mysterious voice stating that the darkside is calling to him (almost certainly referring to Ezra). Yoda is also seen in discussion with Ezra, talking about the importance of how the Jedi win. How far will Ezra walk down the dark path both this season and beyond?

 

3. The Formation of the Rebel Alliance – 

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As mentioned above, one of the key macguffins this season has been the search for a rebel base. Truthfully, this quest has continually been set on the back-burner as other missions and Imperial setbacks get in the way. We’ve seen our crew transform from a pesky little group of insurgents to an important part of a rebel cell. We know that both Ahsoka and Bail Organa seem to be key in coordinating the movements of different cells. However, we’ve yet to see any other groups in particular. Will that be coming this season or will we have to wait to see more cells in action come season three?

 

4. What Other Familiar Faces Will Pop up? – 

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So far, we’ve seen Lando and Ahsoka once again, as well as a brief cameo by R2-D2. Rex, Wolff and Gregor have appeared, with everyone’s favorite clone captain becoming a permanent fixture on the crew. There was the potential for Admiral Ackbar to appear, as in the Legends continuity he played a key role in designing the B-Wing. However, in the new canon we got another Mon Calamari carrying this out, Quarrie. Hondo Ohnaka also appears, going on a sidequest with Ezra. The trailer has already shown that we’re going to get Leia, Cham Sydulla, Maul, Jedi Temple guards, Mandalorians and more Yoda. The first time we got a disembodied voice and light ball cloud Yoda, this time we actually get an animated one, albeit it still seems like an ethereal connection. Who else might show up and what role will they play?

 

5. Planets not Named Lothal – 

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This season has definitely followed through on this idea. We’ve had a bit of action on Lothal, but for the most part the adventures have played out across various locations, including Garel (which is probably the most dense and detailed planet-location we’ve seen so far on the show. I don’t think anybody had any problems with some stories being told on Lothal, just that fans wanted a bit more diversity in this department. With budget in mind, the production team has diversified in this area and done what they’ve been able to.

 

Star Wars: Rebels returns tomorrow on Disney XD.

The second half of the season promises to be even more exciting than the way the first season finished. What are you most looking forward to? How did you like the first half of the season in general? Have your expectations for the second half been ramped up? Sound of in the comments below and stay tuned to SWNN for more Rebels coverage.

 

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88 thoughts on “SWNN’S Star Wars: Rebels – Midseason Review/Preview

  • January 19, 2016 at 8:28 pm
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    I don’t think I could be any more excited for this show than I already am. I think (other than the obvious – Ahsoka V. Vader) what I’m looking forward to the most is seeing what dark side discoveries Ezra makes along the way this season. I feel like the second half of this season will put Ezra on a fulcrum (and I don’t mean Ahsoka), having him teeter back and forth at times leaning to the dark side and at others the light until his eventual tipping point that will utlimately decide his fate, maybe in the finale or in a future season. I can’t wait to get into some ancient Sith lore and that holocron he’s holding in the trailer looks like the showrunners might deliver in that area. I think bringing Maul on makes perfect sense if you want to pull Ezra to the dark side. He hates the Empire, so no Inquisitor, Vader, or even the Emperor would be able to sway his allegiance their way…but a wild card like Maul on the other hand…

    • January 20, 2016 at 9:11 am
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      I hope he only either teeters towards the dark side or goes all the way. Yoda made it seem like coming back from the dark side is nearly impossible. And the more who are able to do this successfully, the less impressive Anakin’s redemption seems in ROTJ.

  • January 19, 2016 at 8:30 pm
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    I absolutely hate the animation style of this show which is why I don’t watch it. It’s such a shame, I’ve heard the writing is actually pretty good.

    • January 19, 2016 at 8:44 pm
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      I can understand that, I myself don’t really like Vader’s appearance, as many other character’s appearance from TCW, but story is enough good to balance out what I don’t like about the animation.

    • January 19, 2016 at 8:57 pm
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      The animation does lack from time to time but for the most part it’s great and it’s everything it needs to be. My advice, suck it up and enjoy the storytelling because it’s STAR WARS!!!

    • January 19, 2016 at 9:17 pm
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      I had the same issues with Rebels, but it feels like Star Wars though. The music, sounds, the ships and planets. The interacting and the stories are pretty interesting. I’d give it a shot if I were you.

    • January 19, 2016 at 10:44 pm
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      It’s getting better, and it will continue to as time goes one. I had the same problem with Clone Wars’ stiff 3D animation for 2 1/2 seasons, but it improved later on.

  • January 19, 2016 at 8:45 pm
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    I have really enjoyed this show. There is just a few things that do bug me about it. More and more force users continue to show up on this show. The movies have dictated what exactly the climate in the galaxy is. The show still has plenty of time to wrap up and explain stuff, but man it is going to get a herculean effort to wrap everything nicely for ANH. The movies are the basis for everything else in the SW canon and you need to abide by them first and foremost. You can’t have all of these open contradictions if you want us to really care about the universe.

    • January 19, 2016 at 10:43 pm
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      Exactly. We can’t have Maul, Ezra, Kanan, Ahsoka, the Inquisitors, OR the Jedi Temple Guards alive at the time of the OT. That’s a lot of people to kill off.

      • January 20, 2016 at 12:06 am
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        Exactly. Tarkin AND Vader believe that there are no longer any Jedi or force users out there in the universe in ANH. You can’t take down one of the greatest movies of all time for a cartoon on Disney XD. It just doesn’t fit into the world right now.

        • January 20, 2016 at 6:16 am
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          No. People confuse “Jedi” with “Force Sensitive”. A Jedi is a Force Sensitive individual trained in the Jedi Arts. And only Tarkin is sure that Vader is the last of his religion, Vader never confirms or denies this statement.

          There are certainly Force Sensitive beings out there undiscovered in the huge giant galaxy that is the Star Wars universe. Hence the reason for the Inquisitors in the first place.

      • January 20, 2016 at 4:15 am
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        All you have to do is get everybody together on Alderaan…

        • January 20, 2016 at 5:05 am
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          Too soon.

          • January 20, 2016 at 5:22 am
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            Either that or Ezra = Snoke.

          • January 20, 2016 at 6:10 am
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            Which is impossible, since Snoke is super old and not human.

          • January 20, 2016 at 6:14 am
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            What TUD said. What more, I doubt they’d connect a major character like Snoke with this show, since not every casual Star Wars fan is watching it.

            And finding out Snoke is really Ezra would confuse more than half the audience watching Episode VIII or IX, whichever the big reveal for him is in.

      • January 20, 2016 at 6:12 am
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        I dunno TUD. We could. We could even have more Force User’s scattered through out the Galaxy.

        The Galaxy is a HUGE place. As the show has already shown us, Palpatine is attempting to build an army of kidnapped Force Sensitive children whose sole purpose is to go out and find more Force Sensitive children to kidnap, attempt to train or murder if they fail/refuse.

        He’s created an endless cycle to TRY and prohibit more Force sensitive beings from emerging and becoming a threat to him.

        Realistically, it would be nigh on impossible to prevent Force Sensitives from existing entirely since an individuals connection with the Force does not require a genetic component to be passed on to them.

        • January 20, 2016 at 3:01 pm
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          That’s true.

  • January 19, 2016 at 9:07 pm
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    I just feel like they’re front-loading the story with way too many Jedi, seeing as how Obi Wan, Yoda, and Luke are basically all that’s left by the time the OT rolls around. Either they’re going to have to kill off a lot of characters before they wrap up the Rebels story, or they’re going to end up creating a web of continuity problems.

    That said, I do like this season of Rebels for what it is. I’ve still not gotten into it to the degree that I did with TCW, and probably never will. The contrived “Mom, Dad and their bickering kids” thing that they keep trying to wedge into the story just grates on me. And again, it seems like they’re setting up far too involved a story for something that’s supposed to lead into what we see in the OT. But the individual episode stories seem stronger this season, and I do really dig the addition of Rex to the cast.

    (And I do want to see how they handle the inevitable face-off between Ahsoka and Vader.)

    • January 20, 2016 at 1:07 am
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      faith in filoni you must have. he navigated the tricky waters of the clone wars really well, i think he can do the same here. 🙂

      • January 20, 2016 at 10:02 am
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        I remember a lot of hate towards Filoni during TCW.

        • January 20, 2016 at 10:37 am
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          that was probably from the movie and season one, which i will admit were pretty bad. heck, even ahsoka whom everyone loves now started off as one of, if the most hated SW character, which is saying something. but after that the show was awesome, mainly due to filoni’s stewardship.

          • January 20, 2016 at 12:33 pm
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            Actually I think it was because he killed off characters a lot. But maybe also because of Ahsoka. Mainly because star wars fans tend to complain about star wars

    • January 20, 2016 at 1:38 am
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      All can be solved with a third clone wars series between 6 and 7.

    • January 20, 2016 at 6:08 am
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      One assumes they have a plan. They just didn’t get together and say “HEY. LET’S PUT A LOT OF JEDI IN THIS SERIES EVEN THOUGH CANONICALLY IT MAKES NO SENSE. STAR WARS FANS WILL NEVER NOTICE.”

      I think we’ve all assumed Ahsoka will face her demise at Vader’s hands sooner or later. And I’ve started to accept the notion that Ezra may in fact fall to the Dark Side, and if he does, Kanan may be the one who is responsible for putting him down.

      If he does have to kill a Dark Side Ezra, it would give him a valid reason if he survives the encounter to disappear forever, and not be heard from again. I imagine the pain he’d experience from having to do so would be beyond describing.

      • January 20, 2016 at 9:07 am
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        True and I trust the Story Group. They wouldn’t want to wreck the lore of the OT. It’s much like my feeling about Rey’s ability in TFA. The people making these films are huge fans … I think they have a plan for the story that makes sense.

      • January 20, 2016 at 10:02 am
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        or… ezra becomes an inquisitor and kills kanan. The point is…. this was supposed to be a kids show. Are they gonna do that?

        • January 20, 2016 at 4:50 pm
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          Define “kids”. I don’t think it’s an accident this is on XD (which is supposed to be a teen channel) and not on the regular Disney channel (which is more for preteen children).

          • January 20, 2016 at 7:25 pm
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            Uuuuh. Pardon me. I don’t ever watch disney channels. The fact that this series shows much, much less graphic gore than The Clone Wars have makes me think it’s designed mainly for younger children who can handle its limited violence. Although there are also us fans watching it too.

          • January 20, 2016 at 7:27 pm
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            Just saying, if they want to go dark, XD is a perfectly appropriate venue to do so.

          • January 20, 2016 at 7:31 pm
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            all right all right, my bad

        • January 20, 2016 at 5:22 pm
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          kids aren’t nearly as silly or naive or ignorant as they’re sometimes portrayed or thought of in general. Kids know there’s darkness in life as they grow up and realize that life in unfair. And they’re very capable of handling all the twisted, dark plots they see in fiction and not be deeply scarred or crazy scared by it. My 8 year old watched this preview as asked me if I thought Ezra is going to be a Sith. My 11 year old said if characters have to die she just hopes it’s not everyone on the Ghost. (Myself and all three of my elementary children that watch this show are collectively worried about Rex in particular.)

          • January 20, 2016 at 7:23 pm
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            I didn’t mean at all that kids are naive, silly and co.; I’m just not sure that we can call this a “kids show” if there’s going to be all that darkness. The point is that Surely Kanan, Ahsoka, rex and countless others will sooner or later die. I don’t think they’ll kill off Ezra though, they might just send him away as they did with Ahsoka.

  • January 19, 2016 at 9:45 pm
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    Re: Lothal being a key industrial planet for the Empire

    One tie-in to this show is via the mobile game Uprising. One of the key components needed to upgrade rebel gear and crew members is the crystal Lothalite.

    I know that’s not incredibly significant, but I think it’s a cool example of how they’re tying all of the various pieces of the canon together. 🙂

    • January 20, 2016 at 2:52 am
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      Good catch. I wonder, the crystal must be quite significant.

      • January 20, 2016 at 6:40 pm
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        Just to clarify: it’s a type of crystal, of which there are many. For example, in the game you need 3 crystals to upgrade your helmet, along with a few other components. So, whereas they are typically difficult to get, there are several of them, and they aren’t quite “rare”.

        The crystals found on Lothal are (as you say) likely to be quite significant on Lothal, but I didn’t want you to be under the impression that there is only one such crystal (i.e. “THE Lothalite Crystal”), especially because of the ambiguous language I used in my initial post.

  • January 19, 2016 at 10:28 pm
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    I like the show. It’s improved with time. My biggest problem with it has nothing to do with the stories they are trying to tell — it’s the sculpt of Ezra’s face. Maybe it’s just me, but he looks off — especially when he’s talking. The other characters are fine, usually, but Ezra bothers me. It’s almost as if they couldn’t figure out how to make a kid look strong without making him look too grown-up. IDK, it’s the kind of thing Disney usually gets right.

    • January 20, 2016 at 6:18 am
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      I love Ezra’s face, he looks like one of my best friends. I didn’t notice it until I was watching an episode over Thanksgiving at my Mom’s. She took one look at him and told me he looked like my friend. I laughed so hard I rolled off the couch. She was right 😛

  • January 20, 2016 at 12:49 am
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    Blahh what ever happened to the Jedi’s practically being instinct? I like Rebels to a small degree but the fan service is impacting the quality of the storytelling and I am really starting to notice the Disney style animation.

    • January 20, 2016 at 4:00 am
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      Yeah, that bothered me even in the old EU. More and more Jedi “slipped past” order 66 as more material was added. By the time of force unleashed II it just got preposterous. I don’t think we are there yet but its definitely a danger. However I’m sure they will all be axed off in one form or another to maintain the status quo. I think they will try to hold off the inquisitors and sacrifice themselves. They would die to make sure the ancient Jedi knowledge never falls into the empires hands.

      • January 20, 2016 at 8:58 am
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        Look at it this way: 10,000 Jedi (plus Padawans?), and Sidious’ main plain only accounted for those serving with Clone battalions, at the Temple on one specific night, or drawn back by the fake beacon – but Obi-Wan changed that message to a warning. It makes sense that there are Jedi that slipped through the cracks – the question is what happens to the survivors between ‘now’ and TESB. It’s going to be an interesting story.

      • January 20, 2016 at 9:05 am
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        Also, so far Kanan and Ahsoka are the only Jedi to have slipped past Order 66 that we know of. Calling either of them actual Jedi is a bit of a stretch. I agree with you that if TOO many Jedi escape it limits the scope of what Order 66 did to the Force in general. As for Force-sensitive children, that part only makes sense that the Force wouldn’t stop connecting with people.

        I’m hoping we do get a book where Vader hunts down a few surviving Jedi, possibly including Quinlan Vos (or perhaps in the Vader comic series).

    • January 20, 2016 at 12:35 pm
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      Instinct or extinct? They don’t mean the same thing

      • January 20, 2016 at 1:04 pm
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        I am agree, it must be his mask, sometimes is difficult to understand what is he saying…

      • January 20, 2016 at 1:12 pm
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        Hey you’re right! It’s not my fault I’m an engineer, can we let this one slide?

        • January 20, 2016 at 2:56 pm
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          Of course, I was asking just because both options made sense somehow….
          Jedi instinct would be related to Force stuff

          • January 20, 2016 at 9:39 pm
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            Haha ahh right, I actually forgot what I said so I better re read when I get home. Sorry man

          • January 20, 2016 at 10:30 pm
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            no problem

  • January 20, 2016 at 12:58 am
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    the thing i’m looking forward most to is seeing what the new jedi/sith lore looks like. the prospect of ezra coming across a sith holocron gets me really excited.

  • January 20, 2016 at 1:59 am
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    Is Son Of Dathomir even canon now? I wouldn’t be sad to see it go since it was pretty much just a tease.

    • January 20, 2016 at 2:16 am
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      Yes, it’s canon. It was based on episodes of TCW.

      • January 20, 2016 at 3:12 am
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        Well the series is but they said none of the EU is anymore past A New Dawn which this was.

        • January 20, 2016 at 3:39 am
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          No, the Story Group confirmed it is canon, even though it came out before A New Dawn

          • January 20, 2016 at 5:07 pm
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            it’s the only Dark Horse series that is canon, I’m 98% certain

          • January 20, 2016 at 9:10 pm
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            Yep, the only one.

          • January 21, 2016 at 4:10 am
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            I guess since it’s TCW and based on unproduced material, Would be nice had they done that with other EU stuff that wasn’t crap.

      • January 20, 2016 at 6:20 pm
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        Yeah. I did a bit of homework on this a while ago. Somehow it snuck into canon. Still haven’t read it yet…

  • January 20, 2016 at 4:23 am
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    Have to remember that these appearances could be in visions or Force ghosts so this trailer really doesn’t rule out any possibilities. Excited to see how they tread on this both fertile and delicate ground of Dark Side lore

    • January 20, 2016 at 6:17 am
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      Yeah, I’m taking a guess that those aren’t living Jedi.

  • January 20, 2016 at 5:00 am
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    Good article

  • January 20, 2016 at 6:24 am
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    Alright. I adore this show. But I’m gonna make a complaint.

    The picture above, #5, whatever planet that was. It was obviously an Ithorian colony.

    Where are my nerds here. Tell me someone else had a problem with this.

    The buildings all have a strange, Late Muscovite period Russian Architecture to them, the colony is on an ice world, it’s urban…

    Anyone following here? Anyone seeing the sad official canon they created? 🙁 And probably somewhat (I hope) on accident since you’d think Filoni and crew would embrace the legends material of the awesome that was Ithorian Culture.

    No Herdships. No agriculture. No biology. Just..Weird buildings.

    • January 20, 2016 at 7:45 am
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      Oh my god i don’t understand how old EU fans could be this stupid.

      • January 20, 2016 at 11:08 pm
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        I can understand how someone who is quick to make assumptions is this much of an asshole.

        I’m not an EU defender. Most of it is garbage. But I do like what Ithorians grew to become through mostly the RPGs and a handful of books.

        They could have literally used any other alien model to inhabit this city and at least skipped over canonizing Ithorians as being like any other mundane Star Wars race.

        So there, maybe with a more thorough explanation you can remove your foot from your mouth and make less flippant and/or condescending remarks when someone is making an actual rational point.

    • January 20, 2016 at 3:58 pm
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      I think this complaint stretches across all of Star Wars really, the feeling where everything is just … there, but not really grounded in practical use, like Maz’s castle is just a building in the middle of a giant forest, Lothal is just a large flatland with some rocks.
      They could get away with in with Tatooine and Jakku, where people have nothing, but as soon as they go to a lush planet, it’s still Landscape + Building, without much elaboration into the behind-the-scenes, day-to-day purpose of the buildings. In this respect, actually the PT did the planet-building better, even though the CGI creatures running around were super-annoying, PT did have detailed, well-rounded landscapes/city designs.

      • January 20, 2016 at 11:08 pm
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        Just sad they made an iconic race mundane.

    • January 20, 2016 at 8:35 pm
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      If you want a treatise on Ithorian culture….I’m not sure you’re going to get it here on Rebels. Especially with the Empire’s policy on non-humans.

      • January 20, 2016 at 11:09 pm
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        Never asked for a treatise, just that they respect what was there for them.

    • January 21, 2016 at 10:32 am
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      could be relying on a smaller trade route? Maybe?

  • January 20, 2016 at 3:07 pm
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    More rebel propaganda.

  • January 20, 2016 at 5:11 pm
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    As far as some people thinking there are too many Jedi post order 66 showing up in this show, I was thinking a great way to tie up the loose ends would be to have them all converge on Alderaan in the last episode of the series for a big council meeting.

    • January 20, 2016 at 6:12 pm
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      YES!

    • January 20, 2016 at 6:18 pm
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      Yeah. I’m of the mind that something has to happen to them. I’ve always held fast to the idea that when Yoda tells Luke that he’s the last Jedi, he means it. And none of this, “well Ahsoka, Kanan, Ezra, Bill, Tim, and Deshawn weren’t fully trained so they’re technically not Jedi” garbage. I think we all knew what he meant back then. I’m liking these stories and characters quite a bit, but in order to make Luke’s job mean what it did, they all have to meet some eventual, tragic ending.

      • January 20, 2016 at 6:28 pm
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        Well Deshawn was for sure! lol, jk…. I agree with exactly what you’re saying. Great stories, just need a tidy way of cleaning it all up, thats why I was thinking tying them to Alderaan would be cool.

        • January 25, 2016 at 8:32 pm
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          Okay. So the more I think about this idea, the more I like it. Rather than have these characters knocked off one at a time, this might be a better option. Let’s say that the characters decide to convene on Alderaan for some reason. They are trained Force users and ready to move ahead in their struggle against the Empire. Whatever Inquisitors are running around will also be closing in on the Jedi and ready to move in on them there. Leia, aware of this meeting, decides to reactivate Obi-Wan and bring him back into the fold. After all, there be Jedi now! And then….well….we know how that all ends.

          But I still think we need to see Vader take out Ahsoka. I don’t want to see a villain with a conscious until Luke comes into the picture.

          • January 25, 2016 at 8:35 pm
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            Totally agree about Ahsoka, and I hadn’t thought about the Inquisitors being there as well. I love that idea. This whole set up itself could make for an interesting movie .

      • January 20, 2016 at 7:37 pm
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        I agree. What’s more, I think that showing Vader as a capable & ruthless antagonist goes a long way towards making up for the lack of mystery surrounding his character in A New Hope (now that so much backstory has been added). On the other hand, I do hope that we don’t see too much of him.

  • January 20, 2016 at 7:41 pm
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    I’m just curious how they wind up explaining where the inquisitors disappear to before Ep.4. Why does the Empire apparently give up on the recruiting force users idea during the OT?

    • January 20, 2016 at 9:09 pm
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      It’s a fair point, however we don’t technically know that to be the case. If they are still around during the OT period, the story just doesn’t follow their mission. Perhaps they get sent on something akin yo an Outbound Flight project? Vader decided to hunt Luke himself as it was personal. They definitely haven’t appeared in the comics yet, it does make you wonder what’s to come of them …

      • January 20, 2016 at 9:25 pm
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        Possible. It’s just certain elements, like Vader hiring bounty hunters in TESB, that don’t quite add up right now. Why wouldn’t he send an inquisitor or two after the Falcon instead? Why not have a couple guarding the shield generator in ROTJ? Why fart around with nameless goons when you have an elite band of specialists on your speed dial? I just hope a decently satisfying answer is offered is all.

        • January 20, 2016 at 11:09 pm
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          Definitely some very good points. Still, unless they seriously let us down, I’ve got faith that the Story Group will leave us plot-hole free.

          • January 21, 2016 at 1:18 am
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            Ezra will kill them or Ashoka will

  • January 20, 2016 at 9:37 pm
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    I’m also pretty iffy on the prospect of Ahsoka knowing Vader’s identity. Provided she has the opportunity, why wouldn’t she inform the Rebel leadership? If she actual does, then how does that remain a secret from Luke?

    Either she doesn’t live to tell the tale or she’s a lousy rebel that keeps intel to herself. Probably the former.

    • January 25, 2016 at 8:38 pm
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      Well Luke wasn’t really apart of the Rebellion until shortly before he learned the truth. I have always wondered just who did and didn’t know about his true identity. I just learned from reading Tarkin that he wasn’t sure himself but thought it was the most likely possibility

      • January 25, 2016 at 9:03 pm
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        Luke was the one that picked Hoth as a base though. That’s an awful lot of responsibility for someone who isn’t fully integrated into the Alliance.

        I guess Bail Organa knew though, huh? I suppose I could see why he’d personally want to keep that intel under wraps. Meh, whatever happens happens.

        • January 25, 2016 at 9:05 pm
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          I agree with whatever happens happens, and I cant wait to watch it happen. I didnt know Luke was the one who picked Hoth.

          • January 25, 2016 at 9:16 pm
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            Well, that’s the common convention in my understanding. I don’t know if it’s actual canon now. It’s based on the wording of the opening crawl for Ep.5, “Evading the dreaded Imperial Starfleet, a group of freedom fighters led by Luke Skywalker has established a new secret base on the remote ice world of Hoth.”

          • January 25, 2016 at 9:18 pm
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            Ok I gotcha now, yeah that makes sense.

  • January 21, 2016 at 2:47 am
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    please add a countdown to the next rebels episode on the site….. I knew when the features are going to be released- i never know when the next rebels episode is coming.

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