Fox-Disney Talks Back On The Table, Could Be Decided By Year’s End

It’s been about a month since word got out that Twentieth Century Fox wanted to cash out of the movie industry all of the sudden, and that they’d be interested in selling a ton of assets to further emphasize their focus on news and sports coverage on television and online. Disney was immediately seen as the prospective buyer of the Twenty-First Century Fox division, with Sony Pictures, Comcast (the parent company of Universal Pictures), and Verizon later joining in on the discussions or otherwise expressing interest. Now, it looks like Disney is back to being the front-runner to buy a number of Fox’s assets – and a deal might be decided upon within the month.

 

 

The Latest Updates On The Disney-Fox Deal

 

Firstly, I’d like to talk about some details discussed in a conversation between two Deadline correspondents, where Mike Fleming Jr. told Peter Bart that he heard how the Disney-Fox deal might just happen:

“I just want to start with a juicy rumor that is fast gaining steam in town today, that Disney is progressing speedily toward that rumored acquisition of Fox. The version I heard has the Murdoch clan keeping possession of sports and news properties, and the rest of TV and the film studio going to Disney. Radio silence right now from both studios, and given how Disney made the Marvel and Lucasfilm deals under the cone of silence, if this happens we’ll probably only know it when it’s announced. It is certainly being talked about today. Not surprisingly, the reaction around town is not enthusiasm, because of the uncertainty that comes with potentially reducing a major studio to content generators under the Disney silo system.”

 

 

Why are we hearing a lot more about a potential Disney acquisition of Fox than we did ahead of their acquisitions of Marvel or Lucasfilm, back in 2009 and 2012 respectively? The key factor likely has to do with the fact that Twentieth Century Fox is still operating on full cylinders as a competitor to Disney as opposed to merely being a brand with some attractive intellectual properties attached to the company name. Fox is part of a larger business – Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp – and as such, getting a rumor out there that they’re potentially selling something is a good way for them to test the waters for long-term interest in continuing discussions and give a crucial boost to the value of their stocks in the short-term. Granted, those kinds of rumors could have looked swell for Marvel and Lucasfilm investors ahead of either of Disney’s two big acquisitions, but those deals were seen as sure things by both Joe Quesada and George Lucas respectively at the time they were being negotiated. Conversely, Fox is still evaluating their options here.

 

Now, new details just surfaced this weekend, courtesy of The Wall Street Journal. Their report corroborates the discussion a t Deadline by stating that yes, talks are still ongoing. Disney’s obviously still interested, but Comcast is as well; no word on either Sony or Verizon, though. Up to $48.5B worth of assets are up for sale, with the biggest chunk of that – $15B – being dedicated to Fox’s television assets that they’re willing to part ways with. For frame of reference, Fox’s asking price for everything they’re selling is more than triple of the $16B it cost for Disney to buy out Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm combined!

 

With that in mind, it seems as if the $48.5B in assets are fated to be sold to several different parties instead of exclusively to Disney. One of the key reasons that the initial talks fell through before recently resuming – as these sorts of discussions are prone to do – is that Fox and Disney could not agree on a price. While Comcast is still in the game, it’s been suggested that they’re primarily interested in Fox’s television assets as opposed to buying the company out completely – meaning that, with Sony and Verizon having limited interest at best, Disney is the best bet to make off with a significant portion of Fox’s movie franchises. As it stands, Murdoch and his heirs are expected to come to a decision by the end of this year – so we’ll probably have a good idea of whether or not Fox is going to sell big portions of the company sometime in the near future. There’s a chance the deal could fall through entirely, but for now, let’s talk about why it’s on the table to begin with.

 

 

Why The Deal Is Being Discussed

 

 

So now that we’ve talked about where things are at with Fox and Disney, now would probably be a good time to discuss why things are headed in this direction to begin with. There are a few reasons that Fox is now mulling over an exit from cinematic show business, but I think a major factor in this is the state of the box office right now. Theater attendance for this year has generally been down compared to 2015 and 2016, which isn’t necessarily the end of the world, but a clear sign that companies need to adjust their game plans going forward as movies get more expensive. Movies that would typically be reliable hits for studios have suddenly started to underperform or even flop. Right now, the world of the box office is dominated by three of the biggest studios – Disney, Universal, and Warner Bros. – and everyone else (Fox, Sony, Paramount, and the numerous mini-majors and smaller studios beneath them) just lives in it.

 

Sony and Paramount have definitely seen better days. To borrow a pair of analogies that one of my colleagues have used, Sony is still in the gutter after a humiliating hack revealed a number of secrets about the company while there’s a clear brain-drain of creators and a lack of sustainable IPs outside of Spider-Man – which, even then, they don’t completely own. Meanwhile, Paramount is in such a terrible state that they have to essentially take the “up” elevator just to get to Hell, as almost every movie they’ve made in the past few years has flopped. Fox, in the meantime, is just in an “okay” position relative to the other studios – but it seems as if “okay” just isn’t good enough for them right now, as Fox was apparently hoping to be on a level closer to Disney or Universal, and they’re not in a position to grow that way as a company. So the plan seems to be that they’ll go about downsizing in order to focus on TV and online media related to news and sports, but not before planning to make a massive fortune from selling a ton of their entertainment assets in movies and television.

 

 

If you’re wondering whether or not this means that Twentieth Century Fox ceases to exist as a brand, then don’t – the studio itself will continue to exist under new management. The “Fox” part will probably be dropped and replaced with something else, since, a long time ago, the company used to just be called “Twentieth Century Pictures”. (I’ll spend the rest of the article referring to Disney’s hypothetical Fox label as Twentieth Century.) In Disney’s case, it’d just become a new label for them, much like Marvel Studios and Lucasfilm are for them. I personally am of the belief that they should use this Twentieth Century label to serve as their new Miramax for the purpose of selling R-rated or otherwise family-unfriendly movies while retaining their squeaky-clean image for their Disney brand itself. This would also allow them to keep certain IP like Aliens and Predator around without having to go for the dreaded PG-13 rating for either franchise again (God knows how well that went for AVP: Alien Vs. Predator).

 

As I said in my previous piece on this subject, this development means very little for Star Wars itself when all is said and done (so no, you still won’t be getting those remasters of the unaltered Original Trilogy as much as you want it – you’ll have to pry them from George Lucas’s cold, dead hands). There’s a small chance that we could hear the Twentieth Century fanfare play in front of some of the older movies upon their eventual re-release, or it could play in front of some of the newer movies if they really, really wanted it to – but I wouldn’t hold my breath there. On the plus side, Disney will be able to have a field day with making new box sets based on all of the franchise’s movies, which is something that they would have run into trouble with previously given that the rights to A New Hope are at Fox forever. The other five pre-Disney movies (not counting The Clone Wars movie, the two Ewok-focused TV movies, and the Holiday Special That Shall Not Be Named) are all set to revert to Disney in May 2020 without this deal in place, but no self-respecting comprehensive box set would lack the movie that started everything.

 

 

If anything, this development is way more important for the Marvel end of things, which is technically Disney’s more profitable brand from an international standpoint. It would finally lead to the creation of a fully-unified Marvel Cinematic Universe, complete with the X-Men and the Fantastic Four fighting alongside the Avengers, the Hulk (film rights co-owned by Universal), and Spider-Man (film rights co-owned by Sony, who I imagine will likely drop some of their Spider-Man Villain Universe plans – THAT NOBODY ASKED FOR – in exchange for a cut of all this). It would also mean that we can finally get a great Fantastic Four movie that doesn’t have the words The Incredibles in the title. I’d suspect that Disney will let Twentieth Century complete X-Force and round out their intended Deadpool trilogy under that banner, but it might mean that production on certain X-Men spin-offs like Channing Tatum’s Gambit and James Franco’s Multiple Man (are you bloody serious, Fox?!) could be discontinued in order to pave the way for a full and complete X-Men reboot into the MCU.

 

 

Should The Deal Go Through, Things Might Not Be So Simple For Fox & Disney

 

Inner fanboy excitement concerning Marvel aside, if this deal happens, it does raise a number of questions about Hollywood itself. After all, Time Warner and AT&T have recently run into a few legal and arguably political snags with their big planned merger (although I think that deal will go eventually through, one way or another). While Disney gaining Twentieth Century as a new label sounds good on paper for a lot of us who like Disney’s franchises, things are not so cut-and-dry for people working outside of their system. As Fleming alluded to in the Deadline piece, Hollywood insiders have concerns about what this means for their industry, as it – along with the Time Warner and AT&T merger – would suggest a possible monopolization of the business.

 

Any sane businessperson would have these kinds of fears. Considering that movie theaters are struggling, one of the Big Six movie studios suddenly calling it quits to become a sub-division of another of the Big Six could be deeply concerning for distributors. It’s not hard to imagine why – if fewer major releases hit each year, then there is less diversity in terms of content for audiences to choose from and a possible erosion in theater attendance. Disney also has a reputation for being somewhat risk-averse with their franchises on a creative level in recent years and has spent fewer and fewer resources toward developing original IP and non-franchise movies, which are both big reasons why Twentieth Century becoming another cog in their corporate machine is something that would be problematic for artists looking to make a mark.

 

 

I do think that this deal is bound to happen – Fox is making it clear that they have an endgame in mind, and it’s not one that involves entertainment. Meanwhile, Disney CEO Bob Iger has been known for aggressively pushing to acquire new companies in the Disney media empire, and this would be a great corporate conquest that could happen under his name before he retires from the company a few years from now (assuming, of course, that he doesn’t extend his contract again). To me, it sounds like a matter of haggling on the part of two different studios as they talk about what resources should be sold and how much they should be sold for.

 

One more big update on this situation has hit since I started typing this editorial, and it suggests that Disney is the company that Fox is most interested in selling several of the major assets to (with Comcast looking to be the second-largest recipient of content). The reason being, ironically enough, is the opposite of what my heading’s hypothesis – there are fewer legal hurdles involved for a Disney buyout, presumably because Disney isn’t a telephone service/internet provider on top of being a content producer. All in all, these are very encouraging signs for Disney and more evidence that they’ll reign at the box office in the years to come should this purchase come to pass.

 

 

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Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.

Grant Davis (Pomojema)

Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.

21 thoughts on “Fox-Disney Talks Back On The Table, Could Be Decided By Year’s End

  • December 5, 2017 at 6:05 pm
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    Hallelujah – “There’s a small chance that we could hear the Twentieth Century fanfare…”
    I stopped reading after the word fanfare.

      • December 5, 2017 at 7:02 pm
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        YESSSS. I could get into that as the new fanfare intro. As it stands now, with the awkward silence, I am just really confused when the opening crawl starts. You know, like when you take your first cousin to Prom and you don’t know where to put your hands when you begin your first dance with her so you just stand there looking at each other thinking ‘I wish somebody would just do something’. I don’t like it.

    • December 6, 2017 at 2:58 am
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      Rey will definitely be tempted by the Dark Side, as any good Jedi should be.

      • December 6, 2017 at 8:35 am
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        I agree. We have seen Obi-Wan being tempted when he defeated Maul, Anakin as well, Luke too….Rey never having any sort of temptation would actually feel wrong to me.

        SW has always given a place to the struggle inside between light and dark. It’s part of what makes it work with the audience. We all feel pulled both ways from time to time. We can relate to this struggle.

  • December 5, 2017 at 8:44 pm
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    Please no Disney version of Planet of the Apes, please,…..please

    • December 5, 2017 at 8:54 pm
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      An Ape Princess here we come!

      I jest… I’m actually all for this merger.

      • December 5, 2017 at 11:13 pm
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        Don’t give them ideas!

  • December 5, 2017 at 9:00 pm
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    I’m all for it. The fanboy in me wants a house united. That and honestly I don’t care all that much for Fox’s properties. Sure they’ve got Deadpool and Logan but the X-men had pretty much run their course. DP will likely stay as is.

    So… bring it on!

    • December 5, 2017 at 9:32 pm
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      Honestly I wouldn’t even mind if at the end of next Dead Pool he just breaks the 4th wall and says he is part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

  • December 5, 2017 at 9:52 pm
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    Soon Marvel will be complete. Everything is proceeding as Lord Mickey had foreseen it.

  • December 5, 2017 at 10:45 pm
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    Honestly it’s quite funny to see the people of the western world, raving over possible acquisition of Fox by Mickey Mouse.
    It may be good for SW franchise, but as for all other stuff one day it may appear Disney became entertainment media monopolist. This means trouble for us, customers, because of lack of competition, lack of creativity, and resulting lower product quality…

    • December 6, 2017 at 7:08 pm
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      To be fair, was Fox releasing any big movies lately? They want to get rid of it themselfs so its not like Disney forced them to with big money.

  • December 6, 2017 at 2:58 am
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    Despecialized…..

    • December 6, 2017 at 10:27 pm
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      Love Harmy’s trilogy, and he’s doing another version now with some new sources. Also, Legacy….if Mike ever releases it.

      • December 9, 2017 at 8:28 am
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        Legacy? What’s that?

        – Pomojema

  • December 7, 2017 at 5:36 am
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    Quite frankly, Disney just wants to buy all rights to ANH, and get the fights to Fantastic Four and X-Men. What they should do, in order to alleviate concerns by the US gov’t monopoly regulators and Hollywood industry, is put together a coalition of other major studios and major production companies who want to buy the other intellectual properties and real estate of Fox Studios.

    Disney doesn’t need, nor want, things like Planet of the Apes, Alien, X-Files, nor do they want or need Fox’s physical studios and offices.

  • December 29, 2017 at 9:48 am
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    20th Century Fox reverting its name to 20th Century Pictures, eh? That is the first of the three possibilities on what happens in the event the Disney-Fox deal goes through. The second possibility would be Disney mergiing 20th with Touchstone Pictures and naming the merged label as–get this–20th Century Touchstone. The third possibility: 20CF–according to Bob Iger–would function as a label within Disney without any name change at all. We shall wait till mid-2019 and see.

  • December 29, 2017 at 10:27 am
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    20th Century Fox reverting its name to 20th Century Pictures, eh? That is the first of the three possibilities on what happens in the event the Disney-Fox deal goes through. The second possibility would be Disney mergiing 20th with Touchstone Pictures and naming the merged label as–get this–20th Century Touchstone. The third possibility: 20CF–according to Bob Iger–would function as a label within Disney without any name change at all. We shall wait till mid-2019 and see.

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