Tommy’s Review: The Force Awakens 3D Collector’s Edition Blu-ray. New Revelations from J.J. Abram’s Commentary and More

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Chances are, you’ve seen Star Wars: The Force Awakens. If you were born between its release and now, then chances are you’re not reading this… but you’ve still probably seen it played on your home TV. It’s the highest domestic grossing film in the US and pushed Star Wars back to the forefront of the global lexicon once again. People saw it in the cinema over and over again but when it’s theatrical release eventually came to an end it was released on Blu Ray and DVD. Read on for our review of the 3D Collector’s Edition Blu-ray…

 

 

“For the first time—and just in time for the holidays—viewers can bring home Lucasfilm’s “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” in 3D, encased in stunning, collectible packaging. The exclusive four – disc 3D Collector’s Edition contains the original theatrical release on Blu-ray 3D, Blu-ray, Digital HD and DVD, along with originally released bonus features and brand-new bonus material, including additional deleted scenes, behind-the- scenes conversations with cast and crew and revealing, never-before released audio commentary by director J.J. Abrams.

 

The collectors edition includes a few cool little additions as well as one very, very cool addition, so lets start with that:

 

Audio Commentary with J.J. Abrams – Enter the mind of visionary director J.J. Abrams as he reveals the creative and complex choices made while developing the first film in the new Star Wars trilogy.

 

Personally, I can’t get enough of director’s commentaries so I would have been excited for this anyway but there is a lot more to be excited about here. Firstly, JJ doesn’t often do director’s commentaries so it is a rare treat in that of itself and incredibly insightful just to here his thoughts on filmmaking but the fact he was talking about making one of the most culturally important films of the decade made it all the more worthwhile and I highly recommend you check this out.

 

Unfortunately, JJ is alone. I usually prefer these things to be a discussion with a couple of people and I would have loved to have heard from Kathleen Kennedy (who is my idol and I absolutely adore) or Lawrence Kasdan (who is an downright genius). But that being said I was very impressed by how funny JJ was, it’s something I always fail to give him credit for but the man knows how to tell a joke. I won’t give away all his anecdotes here because I implore you all to hear it for yourselves but I will briefly discuss some of the revelations he made about the creation of such an important film.

 

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First, he talked about the process and challenges of creating a villain who would have to come after Darth Vader, a tough act to follow particularly when the previous six films have him in a central role.

 

“The character of Kylo Ren was one of the most challenging characters because he sort of embodied what this movie was. It was a new story, a new personality created from the DNA of what had come before. But because he was the villain it meant that he was in the shadow of Darth Vader, one of the great villains in cinema history. So we embraced Vader. We made our bad guy aware of Vader, as he would be living in a post-Vader time and made him the son of Leia Organa and Han Solo. And in doing so, continued another Star Wars tradition of having really screwed up families. We actually used to have more dialogue in this scene where he referenced his father and his mother. But it ended up seeming too soon.”

 

He later goes on to talk about Adam Driver while he is interrogating Poe; it’s not the last time he talks about how much he likes Driver and it is clear throughout that JJ was impressed by his work.

 

“Adam Driver was the idea of Kathy Kennedy. Not that Adam Driver was the idea of Kathy Kennedy. For this movie, it was her idea. I mean, he existed prior. But she brought him up, and we immediately thought, “Oh my God, this guy would be amazing.”

 

JJ Abrams would regularly speak about his time on the various sets around the globe and you could just really tell that he was having the time of his life and that he is- and always will be, extremely grateful to Lucasfilm.

 

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Much later in the commentary JJ talks about something that could be another clue to Rey’s past or it could simply be a slip of the tongue but he says when Rey and Ren meet in the forest of Takodana;

 

“One of the new relationships that we were focusing on was between Kylo Ren and Rey. They’ve never met but he’s heard of this girl. And so, now comes a moment when their meeting is inevitable. […] And now we’re back to our heroine. And this moment where she is about to, for the first time, be confronted by Kylo Ren, a character who she’s going to have a very interesting relationship with moving forward.”

 

So it would appear from these comments that this is the first time these characters have met. Does this debunk any rumours about Rey Skywalker? Or Rey training with Kylo at Luke’s Jedi Academy? Well maybe, or maybe JJ is telling the truth… but only from a certain point of view. Perhaps he is saying that this is the first time Rey has met Kylo Ren but it might not be the first time Rey has met Ben Solo. Or maybe that’s a stretch, who knows?

 

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Now, I know I said I didn’t want to spoil the commentary for you because I want you to watch and listen for yourself but this next quote I’m about to share is just too damn interesting for me to ignore. It’s from the infamous death of Han Solo. I thought about sharing only part of the quote or perhaps several parts but during the course of my editing I couldn’t think of a single sentence I wanted to leave out, so here it is in all it’s glory:

 

“I will say that shooting this scene was a very tricky thing. I think that both Harrison and Adam brought quite a lot to it. I think, their own personal baggage came to this. I think, the idea of killing Han Solo was a crazy, painful idea. And the truth is, because Harrison had been injured early in the shoot, despite his full recovery, I hated the idea of seeing him vulnerable at all. So, this was hard, I think, for everyone to do, even though we knew it was essential and necessary. People have asked me if I think that Kylo Ren was just playing with him the whole time, if he meant to kill him from the beginning. And the truth is, I think that Kylo Ren in this moment is actually being convinced to walk away from this. Snoke is, as Han says, using him. And I think that somewhere Ben knows this. But I think that he can’t accept it deep down. He has gone too far. We were working on this scene quite a bit, trying to find the right rhythm. And it was actually Jon Kasdan, Larry’s son, who helped us with this. And I think really helped us get to a place where there was a lot of emotion, but also this raw uncertainty of what was going to happen. But I don’t think that in this moment this is a put on. I think that Ben is legitimately going to give up. But then, the idea was that in this moment, where he’s taking the lightsaber and offering it to him as a gesture, the sun finally is drained from the sky. And you see the light go away. And now they’re in this darkness. And darkness takes over. And as if this moment isn’t disturbing enough, he pushes the saber further in and says these terrifying two words. “Thank You.” In Kylo’s mind, what he has just done seals the deal. It’s the ultimate proof to Snoke that he is to be trusted, that he will not be seduced by the light. And I think, the instant that he’s done it, he regrets it.”

 

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Lets break down what is so fascinating here, or fascinating to me anyway. JJ talks about Harrison Ford’s injury and immediately talks about how hard it was to see him vulnerable again, this level of responsibility that he’s taken on really paints JJ in a positive light and honestly it just makes me respect him even more than I already did. The next thing of interest here is the fact that Han was actually succeeding in his attempts to turn Kylo back to the light. It was only when the sun is drained that Kylo is both literally and figuratively consumed by darkness. This had clearly been a point of interest for a lot of people since JJ mentions that it’s a question he gets a lot. Kylo then utters two words that make him almost irredeemable, “thank you” and he does what he needed to in order to prove his dedication to Snoke. The most important thing to take away from this for me was the fact that Jon Kasdan had some input along with his father. If you wasn’t already aware, the still untitled Star Wars Story starring Alden Ehrenreich and Donald Glover as a young Han Solo and young Lando Calrissian respectively, will be written by both Lawrence and his son Jon Kasdan, and Lawrence has said in the past that this will be the last film he writes and will serve as a passing of the torch. So the fact that Jon has already had his fingerprint marked on the beloved character and in one of his most important moments, his death, is very encouraging to me. Plus a big criticism of George Lucas in the past has been his reluctance to take advice or apply other people’s ideas so to hear that JJ was quite the opposite made a lot of sense. Especially when you hear about some of the talent he had offering advice.

 

“I also showed this film, an early cut to my friend Ava DuVernay, and she had a bunch of great suggestions. One of them was that she really wanted to see Daisy, in her attack on Ren coming up, to have one really cool moment. I’ll show you the shot that we ended up getting, per her suggestion. But we always had this moment, from when we shot it originally.[”I could show you the ways of the Force.”] And this used to be where she called him a monster and then pushed back. But, instead we reshot this and had her take this moment of hearing the Force and thinking about what Maz had told her about closing her eyes and letting it in. And so she has this incredibly internal moment that is sort of extended in, kind of, movie time, where she basically feels it, accepts it, and is now ready to kick his ass.”

 

And the trees falling as they were being cut during the Rey/Ren fight? That was Spielberg’s idea.

 

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Foley: A Sonic Tale – Foley artists, consisting of old pros and new talent, unite to bring the world of “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” alive through the matching of sound to action.

Foley has always been something that interests me. It just seems like a job like no other. Essentially a foley artist will create the various sound effects for a film, so this can be anything from armour clanking to footsteps in the snow. This neat little featurette does a great job of showing us how the foley artists created some of the sounds of The Force Awakens. It’s truly inspiring to see how handmade and rag-tag everything feels. To me, it harkens back to the old fashioned methods of doing what you can with what you have and it feels like real movie magic. We also see that continued theme of generations which has been great with Force Awakens.

 

 

Sounds of the Resistance – Hear how the epic sound design of “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” moves the Star Wars legacy forward.

For this little feature we got a little glimpse into Skywalker Sound and had the chance to see how some of the mixing of iconic sounds happens. The sounds of Star Wars have always been instantly recognisable, often replicated and chances are, you probably have a favourite sound from Star Wars (mine is the sound of Obi-Wan deactivating the Death Star’s Tractor Beam) so to see the talented guys at Skywalker Sound talking about their experiences with trying to replicate the original genius of the previous Star Wars films was fantastic. You even get to see the man responsible for the strange Rathtar choking sound when it latches itself onto the cockpit of the Millennium Falcon.

 

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Deleted Scenes – View never-before- shared scenes that didn’t make the film’s final cut.

While most of the Deleted Scenes included on the Bonus Disc were available previously on the last Blu Ray release, the new ones were absolute gems. First we had a scene called Leia & The Resistance where the former princess sends a familiar face to the New Republic on her behalf to try and grow The Resistance’s numbers. That familiar face is later killed when The First Order unleash the devastating power of Starkiller Base. The second, and my personal favourite deleted scene, is called Unkar Plutt At Maz’s Castle. This scene is something that The Force Awakens Novelisation readers (such as myself) will know all too well. Yes, that’s right, it’s the scene where Unkar Plutt finds Rey on Takodana and in an attempt to bring her back to Jakku finds himself in an altercation with everyone’s favourite Wookie, Chewbacca who finally rips an arm out of a socket, just like we have been promised since 1977. The worst thing about this scene is that it didn’t make the final cut. Finally we have a scene called Tunnel Standoff which is set between Rey leaving Maz’s castle and The First Order arriving. It features Han, Chewie, Maz and Finn in the tunnel beneath the castle as Stormtroopers arrive. We get some classic Han solo quips and the scene is over although I expected to see Maz rescue them all using the force as described elsewhere but apparently this scene is still missing and perhaps now it will never see the light of day.

 

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Dressing the Galaxy – Costume Designer Michael Kaplan reveals how the costumes of the original Star Wars movies were re-envisioned for a new generation.

In a film that did so much to promote its use of practical effects and costumes, this featurette gives a great insight into that world. Harrison Ford even gives us his time to talk about how much he admires the work that goes into costume design and how much he respected the energy that Michael Kaplan gave to his job. It really goes to show how important every individual role on the film was to capturing the wonder of the original trilogy. Everyone wants to make their mark and it’s great to see how significant that mark was from the costume designer.

 

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The Scavenger and the Stormtrooper: A Conversation with Daisy Ridley and John Boyega – The two new stars share the thrill of working together on the adventure of a lifetime and becoming part of the Star Wars legacy.

The first thing that is abundantly clear from this featurette is the chemistry between the two new stars. It feels so real and so natural which is what you could expect since they have similar experiences coming out the other side of one of the most monumental parts of their lives. They talk about the first time they met, their last day on set and some of their favourite moments with other cast members new and old and it does a great job of demonstrating their relationship which they liken to that of a brother and sister.

 

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Inside the Armory – Take a fascinating tour through the design and creation of the weaponry in “Star Wars: The Force Awakens.”

Just like the costumes, this featurette shows us another level of the practicality of The Force Awakens and shows us again how real everything is. It’s fairly common knowledge that not a single piece Clone Trooper armour was ever made and they were all digital so to see the level of detail and thought into the progression of weaponry in this film is inspiring. We once again get a glimpse of the generations of Star Wars behind the scenes and we also see how the new generation of prop makers sought out the same random objects used for the original props. Despite the high-tech, advanced 3d printing they had at their fingertips, the prop designers still opted for a more handmade approach, just as an homage and tribute to the original trilogy.

 

 

There you have it, the bonus disc for the 3D Collectors Edition of Star Wars: The Force Awakens. The visuals of the film itself were crisp and clear as ever and the 3D holds up very well in the living room. Unfortunately the IMAX shots aren’t available in the same way and the standard aspect ratio of 2:40:1 is featured throughout but it doesn’t detract from the overall quality and if you missed it’s first IMAX run at the cinema then I’m sure it’ll be brought back to theatres for other special runs, probably for marathons before every other Saga film from now until the end of time. Because one of the biggest take-aways from this release is that Disney love money and Bad Robot love to release multiple Blu Rays (and sometimes in multiple locations with different features in different stores – a trend I hope to see the back of very, very soon). If you have been desperate for the 3D Star Wars experience in your living room then I would definitely suggest that you pick this up; if you don’t already have this film on any form of home release then I would definitely suggest that you pick this up; if you are interested in the JJ commentary (which I cannot recommend enough) then I would definitely suggest that you pick this up! If you don’t have a 3D TV, don’t care about directors commentaries and already have the Blu Ray with the other special features… then you can probably give this a miss.

 

 

Special thanks to mummiesandlightsabers.tumblr.com for some of the Abrams quotes that we used.

 

 

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169 thoughts on “Tommy’s Review: The Force Awakens 3D Collector’s Edition Blu-ray. New Revelations from J.J. Abram’s Commentary and More

  • November 2, 2016 at 11:55 pm
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    Sweet! I’ve been looking forward to this one since it was announced, and having read this, I am even happier that I held back by not purchasing the initial physical media release.

    This sounds like a winner.

  • November 3, 2016 at 12:18 am
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    “Firstly, JJ doesn’t often do director’s commentaries so it is a rare treat in that of itself”

    not to nitpick, but JJ has done commentaries for M:I 3, star trek 2009 and super eight. IDK about into darkness as i don’t own it. but that’s at least four of his five films.

    • November 3, 2016 at 5:25 pm
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      He did one for Into Darkness too. It was an enhanced commentary. He also did commentaries for Alias, Felicity and Lost.

  • November 3, 2016 at 1:08 am
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    “be confronted by Kylo Ren, a character who she’s going to have a very interesting relationship with moving forward.”

    http://replygif.net/i/120.gif

    • November 3, 2016 at 1:16 am
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      time to ship them, then? 😉

      • November 3, 2016 at 5:51 am
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        The Internet, uh, finds a way.

    • November 3, 2016 at 2:06 pm
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      That is one really annoying GIF you found there.

        • November 3, 2016 at 5:17 pm
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          Yep, It’s a belter. I’ll need to use it myself some time.
          He’s a talk-show host, is he not!?

          • November 3, 2016 at 11:04 pm
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            Yeah, man. Stephen Colbert I believe. He has some great reaction GIFs out there.

  • November 3, 2016 at 2:01 am
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    “They’ve never met but he’s heard of this girl. And so, now comes a moment when their meeting is inevitable.” Hmm, this isn’t right. They met when Rey was strapped down in that chair and she did her mind tricks with those Storm Troopers. Am I imagining things???

    • November 3, 2016 at 3:05 am
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      “he says when Rey and Ren meet in the forest of Takodana”

      when he first captures her and uses the Force to freeze her? Before she was strapped in the chair?

      • November 3, 2016 at 3:25 am
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        Yeah, that scene. Isn’t that when he first met her?

        • November 3, 2016 at 3:08 pm
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          Yes…that’s what JJ is saying.

          • November 3, 2016 at 3:41 pm
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            “One of the new relationships that we were focusing on was between Kylo Ren and Rey. They’ve never met but he’s heard of this girl. And so, now comes a moment when their meeting is inevitable.” – The part I’m still curious about when reading all this. If it is the first time they meet, it still makes me scratch my head every time the informant tells Kylo Ren that the item needed to find Luke was in a droid that escaped on the Millennium Falcon, and seemed to get very upset at the mention of Rey, to the point of doing a force grab/choke.

          • November 3, 2016 at 3:46 pm
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            I think it wasn’t anything about Rey, but just the piling on of bad news and that was the breaking point.

          • November 3, 2016 at 3:58 pm
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            I’m not so sure. When JJ says, “he’s heard a lot about her” that could be in the context of the movie, or it could be that he has heard of her via Snoke or some other way…

          • November 3, 2016 at 4:02 pm
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            From other interviews and stuff about this, it seems like he has no idea who she is. He’s heard about her from this guy and the reports about her flying the ship so well.

            Also, he may be referring to lines of dialogue that were cut. Snoke doesn’t seem to have any insight on Rey, either.

          • November 3, 2016 at 5:45 pm
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            Yet the movie goes out of its way to amp up the mystery around her. Literally EVERY time we’re about to get one character talk about Rey to another character, JJ cuts away. There is either more there, or JJ really, REALLY wants us to THINK there’s more there, and is leaving it to his successors to sort out a satisfying payoff. Either is possible given his body of work.

          • November 3, 2016 at 7:00 pm
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            It could be either. Might be a red herring or it might be something more. Just saying what I think it is.

  • November 3, 2016 at 2:45 am
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    Great write-up, really insightful! I think you sold me on this copy even though I already bought one. But you may want to run a Spelling/Grammar Check or have someone proofread next time 😉 little things like “my idle” or saying JJ “like” Adam Driver instead of “likes”. But I thoroughly enjoyed the content!

    • November 3, 2016 at 11:10 am
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      Thank you, I appreciate the constructive feedback – a rare treat on the internet these days! I had to swap between writing this on my laptop and writing it on my phone while commuting so some parts were more rushed than others. Though idle/idol was more a case of lack of sleep and coffee haha! Thanks again though, I’ll do my best to improve next time!

  • November 3, 2016 at 4:15 am
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    Where the Fuck is Constable Zuvio?

    • November 3, 2016 at 11:22 am
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      There’s a little glimpse of him during the escape from Jakku sequence

    • November 3, 2016 at 5:42 pm
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      He’s busy being a write-in third choice for the US Presidency.

  • November 3, 2016 at 5:01 am
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    Does anyone know if the commentary track is on the DVD of this set, or just the Blu Ray?

    • November 3, 2016 at 6:18 am
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      i think its just the blu ray. thats been the trend lately.

  • November 3, 2016 at 10:23 am
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    Of all deleted scenes, I think the one with Korr and Leia would have been great. TFA has a good rythm and action but a little conversation about new republic, resistence and other stuff would have been great. Not a great fan of political prequel events but that would be a nice connection.

    • November 3, 2016 at 5:41 pm
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      The movie, asking us to accept a massive departure from what we thought was happening at the end of Jedi, NEEDS that information though.

      • November 3, 2016 at 7:03 pm
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        What did we think was happening at the end of Jedi?

      • November 11, 2016 at 6:42 pm
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        The movie mirrrored Episode IV as you’re so fond to point out.

        Episode IV didn’t explain what the Empire was or where it came from. Didn’t give us details on the Imperial Senate. The Emperor. Or even who Darth Vader was.

        VII did the same. They will build on it in the next films.

  • November 3, 2016 at 12:17 pm
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    Too much to hope that the commentary will be added to the iTunes purchase?

    • November 3, 2016 at 12:25 pm
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      I doubt it, afterall its all about making you purchase the same thing with some minor additions three times over

      • November 3, 2016 at 12:28 pm
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        They have added content previously. There was an extra doc and that (terrible) “Tunnel Standoff” deleted scene was added months after the release.

    • November 7, 2016 at 5:57 am
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      Generally – no. These late release Collectors editions are exactly as they say. Collectors. Including material only available on the disc you have in your hand… Digital Downloads are still relatively new esp. of the UHD variety and its entirely possible it will be revisited as the public is pushed off physical media but theyve been trying for like 5 years to get that moving and its not happening as fast as was planned – long story short if you bought it on iTunes in April what you got is what you got. Star Wars has a tendency to buck trends only because it historically sets its own path through post-production but remember just because your able to buy these things (collectors sets) **new** the actual material has been done for years now most of it and it was all contractually obligated. Many if not all involved werent told what they were appearing in – was for and/or when it would be released if ever. Releases are governed by contract and contractually that wouldve been monetized. For all but the actors Id say. Even JJ. You make it seem in your review that he was doing us a favor by offering this glimpse…. and maybe thats true. But I bet, for him, its been nice to not be doing Star Wars for a minute. And… he got paid to speak over the movie, Alot.

  • November 3, 2016 at 1:30 pm
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    Is the commentary track on the non-3D disc (X-Wing art) too or just on the 3D copy (Kylo art)? I don’t have a tv or player for 3D so I hope I can hear the commentary on the 2D version too.

    • November 3, 2016 at 3:10 pm
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      it’s only on the 2D

      • November 3, 2016 at 3:54 pm
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        AWESOME!! I’m glad about this. Thanks for that 🙂

  • November 3, 2016 at 2:03 pm
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    “Firstly, JJ doesn’t often do director’s commentaries so it is a rare treat…”
    J.J has actually done commentaries for all his films. Check Dvdcompare.
    Other than that, solid review. I’ll definitely be buying it, once the price has dropped.

  • November 3, 2016 at 6:13 pm
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    “this raw uncertainty of what was going to happen.”
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    Unless you’ve ever seen any movie ever. I found the tension was in knowing it was coming and simply not wanting to see Han’s end. Dramatically I just didn’t find that it worked terribly well because of how obvious it was, and how broadly Abrams telegraphed what the payoff was going to be through his staging of that sequence.
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    ” Unkar Plutt finds Rey on Takodana and in an attempt to bring her back to Jakku”
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    So lemme get this straight. Not only did Han and Chewie find the Falcon immediately, not only did the First Order find the Falcon immediately, but the scrap dealer ALSO was able to follow the Falcon to another system without any difficulty or delay? Yet Han and Chewie, ACTIVELY SEARCHING for their baby, their home, couldn’t find it until it was dramatically expedient to get everyone where the script needed them to be? I’m so glad this was cut from the film. The whole thing with the Falcon is already overburdened contrivance that stretches suspension of disbelief to the breaking point; the film did not need one more kick in the narrative nads at that point, nor did we need yet another fan service moment showing Chewie rip an arm off.
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    “Because one of the biggest take-aways from this release is that Disney love money and Bad Robot love to release multiple Blu Rays (and sometimes in multiple locations with different features in different stores – a trend I hope to see the back of very, very soon).”
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    Amen.

    • November 3, 2016 at 7:02 pm
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      It’s very telegraphed, which makes the tension even more unbearable. There is a part of you that is saying, “No, they won’t do it” when all signs are pointing towards yes.
      I thought it was wonderfully executed.

      • November 3, 2016 at 8:49 pm
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        Re: There is a part of you that is saying, “No, they won’t do it”

        There was no part of ME saying “No, they won’t do it”.
        From moment **Leia suggested Han bring him home to Han seeing Kylo on the walkway, there was ZERO doubt they’d do it.

        I was more on pins&needles, will there be payoff to the scene or will they bungle his death (i.e. feel meaningless).
        I thought the death scene was alright. Could’ve been worse.
        However, I do wonder if it’s only as good-as-it-is because not matter what, we all care for Han so much.

        **Never forget – Leia caused Han’s death!

        • November 3, 2016 at 9:13 pm
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          “There was no part of ME saying “No, they won’t do it”.”

          Well, yeah. Everyone reacts differently.

          “I was more on pins&needles, will there be payoff to the scene or will they bungle his death.”

          I don’t concern myself with that stuff until after the movie. When I am watching, I am immersed.

          “Never forget – Leia caused Han’s death!”

          What? Is this a thing? Han is a grown-ass man. He chose to try to help his son, as any decent father would. To blame Leia for that is asinine.

          • November 3, 2016 at 9:34 pm
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            Re: “When I am watching, I am immersed”
            Understood. I’m normally *very* good at “suspension of disbelief” & getting into a good movie.
            I guess that’s kind’a part of my point – that I actually felt a bit pulled out of the experience. It felt so very telegraphed that I did start thinking: “I love this character so much, don’t bungle his death!” as I watched it unfold.
            I’m probably over-stating that, as I enjoyed the scene. But if did feel, during the moment, very much inevitable & to me that it was executed (pun not intended) ok.

            Re: Leia cause death
            First, I was *mostly* joking.
            However, sure…Han was a grown-ass man.
            Yet….grown-ass men do a LOT for love.

            Let’s dig deeper on this…
            Re: “He chose to try to help his son”
            Sure he did – BECAUSE Leia told him to.
            He wanted HER back, as well as his son. But it was apparent that he was never a very good father, or at least never had a good relationship with his son (I think over-simplying to say it’s just Ben’s dark side tendency).
            Kylo’s comment about “you’ll be disappointed” points to “daddy issues” (i.e. failings/problems) that occurred BEFORE his turning.
            Back to Leia….
            Han had already “given up” on his son. He thought he was a “lost cause”.
            You didn’t see him running towards him when he had a much more valid reason – rescuing Rey! [ appeal to his decency, save the young girl he liked & turn his son back at same time ] No, he was high-tailing it out of there AWAY from Kylo.
            Soooo…..
            We only saw Han “try to help his son” AFTER Leia pleaded with him.
            Han saw that opportunity as:
            1) keeping his commitment – Leia got him to make
            2) win his wife back
            3) help his son

            To NOT at least weigh the factor that Han confronted Kylo (as he’d earlier fled & left Rey) because of Leia’s request is asinine.
            I mean… they even bothered including a scene of Leia ASKING Han – so that was redundant/useless/misguided?
            If it was solely Han’s motivation & belief his son could be turned back ( a son who hated him from young age ) why include that scene? Would’ve possibly been more powerful if it was only a “regretful father” doing the right thing.

          • November 3, 2016 at 11:11 pm
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            Yeah, I could understand getting pulled out of it by it. I mean, I was too, to a degree, weighing on whether they would really do it or not. I avoided spoilers, but the second I heard Ford would be back, I said he would die b/c there was no way he was sticking around for 3 of these things haha.

            She asked him and he did it, but it was his choice to do it. He wasn’t a slave to her will, as evident by the fact that he is Han Freaking Solo haha. The person to blame for his death is Kylo Ren and no one else.

          • November 3, 2016 at 11:20 pm
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            Understood & agree.

            You were smart avoiding spoilers. I read up a bit too much, but also suspected Ford would want to see end of his character.

            Was half-way just joking there about re-hashing “Leia’s fault” concept, but I do still think Han might not have confronted Kylo if not for his wife. You’re right tho’ – it was his decision. Almost wonder if it would’ve been more powerful had it only been his own idea – if instead of Leia asking him, perhaps their dialogue indicated Han’s own guilt & failing – feeling he’d contributed to Ben turning away? Maybe made it even more tragic?

            Regardless of the motivation or even degree of effectiveness of the scene playing out – it succeeded in being too painful watching Han Solo dying.

            [ Side note: If they’d wanted story exposition of Chewie’s famous arm pulling antics, ripping a Trooper’s arms off after seeing Han killed would’ve been a fitting point for that. Wished we’d gotten more of Chewie’s reaction & later sorrow – Chewie (/near) weeping would’ve left not-dry-eye-in-house. 😉 ]

          • November 3, 2016 at 11:24 pm
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            It’s tragic enough that the son killed the father. No reason to rub it in
            haha.

            Chewie needs to do that at some point!

      • November 3, 2016 at 9:41 pm
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        It is true that the death in this movie was very telegraphed especially compared to the death in the books.

    • November 3, 2016 at 7:41 pm
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      Right, because Lucasfilm never released multiple versions of Star Wars movies on home video/DVD/Blu Ray throughout the years? That’s just a Disney thing, apparently.

      • November 7, 2016 at 5:56 am
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        Not so close together for the same movie. They release as new technology becomes available… vhs to dvd to blu ray. They dont hold back a ton of material for another version coming out in a few months as a way to sell a 3d disc because 3d doesnt sell.

        • November 7, 2016 at 9:32 am
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          I own three different versions of the OT on VHS, the 1992 release, the 1995 remaster, and the 1997 Special Edition. Then the DVD in 2004, then Blu Ray in 2011. So that’s a total of 5 different versions of the same three movies. What difference does it make if there is more time between those releases? They are still coming out with multiple versions of the same movie to make money off of fans. It’s the same bloody thing.

          • November 7, 2016 at 8:17 pm
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            It does make a difference because and it’s not the same bloody thing. For example, Lucasfilm couldn’t do a director’s commentary in 1992. The Special Edition was basically a whole new movie, and DVD/Blu ray were new technologies. They were released years apart as technology became available. It’s not like the release a special edition in 1997 and then a few months later another special edition, only this version included something the other version didn’t. It’s a cheap and insulted way to treat the fans.

          • November 7, 2016 at 9:29 pm
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            3D and 2D is not a significant difference in the presentation of a film?

          • November 8, 2016 at 7:21 pm
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            Its most def a significant difference. Thats besides the point, which is they could have put all these deleted scenes on the initial release.

          • November 11, 2016 at 6:41 pm
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            The initial release was barely five months after the movie. It takes time to put that material together. It comes later.

            They released the film bare bones. If you didn’t think there would be another version coming out in another 5-6 months with more features in time for Christmas well, I have a bridge to sell you on Alderaan.

          • November 11, 2016 at 11:29 pm
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            Duh, I didn’t say I didn’t think another version was coming. I said they are fleecing people. I’ll tell you what, you head on over to Alderaan and I’ll be right behind you. Now you may see the sky suddenly brighten a lot, but don’t worry about it.

          • November 12, 2016 at 1:38 am
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            They’re not fleecing people. It’s a choice to buy a product or not. No one needs the extra features that were put on the new release. I haven’t purchased it, I don’t need to.

            See how that works?

            You’re just screaming about it for no reason. I guess you probably bought it.

          • November 12, 2016 at 3:26 am
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            They are trying to make as much money as possible. They could have put these on the first disc release. Hence fleecing. Maybe when you grow up and finish school you will better understand the concept.

            Btw no one needs to buy them, they want to. Duh

          • November 12, 2016 at 6:11 am
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            Yes. We live in a capitalist country and they own the IP they purchased for 4 billion dollars. They are attempting to make money. They are not, however, offering a product that would be considered necessary by almost anyone to own to qualify as “fleecing”.

            Next.

          • November 12, 2016 at 7:45 pm
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            Of course they are attempting to make money. My point is they’ve made enough money – they already recouped their investment. And they don’t do this with any of their other movies to near this extent if at all and it’s taking advantage of customers and fans. Yes, they own the product and can do this. No, it does not make it right.

            Btw, did you hear, Hillary lost?

          • November 12, 2016 at 8:15 pm
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            Who are you to determine when a business makes enough money? They have not yet recouped the 4 billion dollars. The point is to make as much money as possible, that’s capitalism. That’s America.

            What your suggesting is what, socialism? Decide when someone makes enough money and stop them? Then what? They donate their products to consumers?

            It’s not right or wrong. It’s a choice. No one made anyone buy the first release of the film. You can wait until the better edition comes out.

          • November 13, 2016 at 2:37 am
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            I didnt say they could or couldnt make more money. How many times do i have to say it before it sinks in… of course they can keep putting these discs out no one is arguing that i am saying its a cheap tactic they dont take with any other releases but because its star wars they know there is a large built in fan base that will probably keep buying them and its wrong imo after all the fans have already done for them when its been proven they could have just done this release up front. Lucasfilm never did this (i wont go over that again wih you). Aecond of all no one knew the other release was coming when they released the first one. Which they kept from consumers so they would buy the first one and then attempt to get them to buy the second one.

            Point in fact, we actually live in a socialist-capitalist society in america.

          • November 13, 2016 at 3:24 am
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            Well you say things a lot, but you tend to change them every couple of days until I tire you out and have you make sense.

            This not the first movie, nor company, that has marketed films this way. Lord of The Rings was another franchise they did this with. To name one.

            Great, I’m glad you think it’s wrong. You’re entitled to that opinion. My opinion is you’re being silly about it because you have a choice. Buy the movie sooner, or wait a few months and buy a better version of the film.

            I knew it was coming, everyone else on this forum did too, there was already a discussion about it when they dropped VII when they did.

            Lucasfilm released umpteen versions of the movies. Yes, I’ve seen your argument. “New technology”. It was released three times on VHS. Same technology. Clearer picture and sound with THX sure, but same films, and we all went out and bought them again.

            So once more, with feeling as you say, you had a choice to buy or wait. Now you’re complaining. Sorry you bought first with regrets later.

            Socialist-capitalist society lol.

          • November 14, 2016 at 4:33 am
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            Lotr announced they were doing two versions of the film upfront… a theatrical and extended edition. They didnt gold back all the features and commentary for future releases. Tfa is the same movie released each time. Name one other 3d movie that was released like this.

          • November 14, 2016 at 7:23 pm
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            I knew it was coming. No one had to tell me either. Most of this forum stated as much too. Again, you’re choosing to be butthurt and willfully ignorant. Sorry.

          • November 14, 2016 at 9:43 pm
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            Oh, you’re physic now. You knew Disney was going to release a director’s commentary and MORE deleted scenes before they even announced it. Nice. Too bad you didn’t see this crushing defeat coming.

          • November 14, 2016 at 9:55 pm
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            Yes, I’m a physic. An unstoppable force, to be precise.

          • November 15, 2016 at 12:08 am
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            More like an unstoppable fart… to be precise.

          • November 15, 2016 at 12:51 am
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            Your maturity knows no bounds.

          • November 15, 2016 at 3:36 am
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            Hey when the other side cant engage in a rational discussion, might as well have some fun at their expense. I enjoy deflating your ego.

          • November 14, 2016 at 10:32 pm
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            P.S. Yes, I did know when they released VII so bare bones that they would release an edition with more content on it by the time Christmas rolls around. It isn’t very hard to deduce these things because …

            …this is a fairly normal marketing strategy with the trend of big films being released so quickly to video after theatrical release.

            I bought the bare bones edition. I won’t be buying the new edition. And I’m not angry about it either.

          • November 15, 2016 at 12:08 am
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            Bare bones?

            Secrets Of The Force Awakens: A Cinematic Journey

            The Story Awakens: The Table Read

            Building BB-8

            Crafting Creatures

            Blueprint of a Battle: The Snow Fight

            The Visual Magic Of The Force

            Yeah, real bare bones.
            John Williams: The Seventh Symphony

            Deleted Scenes

            Force For Change

          • November 15, 2016 at 12:51 am
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            None of which was very long, in depth, or compelling. Bare bones.

          • November 15, 2016 at 3:34 am
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            Lol. Yeah 80% of deleted scenes, an hour long documentary that also aired on primetime abc, all the other stuff i listed about (because i like to actually provide support unlike you). “Bares bones” … good one commandant!
            The only major diference with the new releases special features is a couple more deleted scenes and the directors commentary.

            Also thank you for your opinion that the documentary wasnt very compelling. Obviously ABC disagreed with you on that. Lol.

          • November 12, 2016 at 3:12 pm
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            Apparently every business in America, large or small, is fleecing then.

          • November 12, 2016 at 7:43 pm
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            No, the exchange of goods is not fleecing. When a company puts out a disc, then holds back half the material for a second disc released a few months later they suddenly announce after the release of the first disc, that’s fleecing.

            You know you don’t get paid to stick up for Disney, right?

          • November 12, 2016 at 8:15 pm
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            That’s your opinion of fleecing. To other people it’s a sound business strategy.

            I’m not sticking up for them. I’m pointing out that again you have misplaced anger based on your own ignorance.

          • November 13, 2016 at 2:32 am
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            Dude the only one angry here is you because hillary lost. Sound business stragety or not, its still fleecing.

          • November 13, 2016 at 3:24 am
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            This isn’t the place for political discussion.

          • November 14, 2016 at 4:30 am
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            Then i guess you had better change your avatar and handle.

          • November 14, 2016 at 7:23 pm
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            Which I never address in my posts.

          • November 14, 2016 at 9:48 pm
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            You address it every time you post, Hillary.

          • November 14, 2016 at 9:53 pm
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            Afraid I don’t.

          • November 15, 2016 at 12:01 am
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            You just addressed it now. Prove me wrong.

          • November 15, 2016 at 1:00 am
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            You can infer whatever you like from my avatar and handle. But I don’t discuss politics here. That was easy enough.

          • November 15, 2016 at 3:44 am
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            Every time you post you make a statement with that photo and name. Easy peezy.

            Somebody wants to have their cake and eat it too.

          • November 12, 2016 at 7:46 pm
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            Thats just dumb.

          • November 12, 2016 at 8:13 pm
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            No, that’s what you stated is happening.

          • November 13, 2016 at 2:30 am
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            I never said that. Thats as bad as hillary saying she couldnt remeber during her testimony before congress.

          • November 13, 2016 at 3:24 am
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            You did..your posts are right here. I don’t know how you can deny things that happen in a conversation that is burned into the internet.

          • November 14, 2016 at 4:29 am
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            Quote me where i said exactly that. Oh right that was your assumption. I remember you tried that previously when i school you about the sith and the inquisitors.

          • November 14, 2016 at 7:24 pm
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            I’ve dug through your posts and quoted you before in other threads. I believe that was the last time we had contact. Do you really want me to break down the entire meandering conversation where once more you slowly changed your tune by the end of the discussion after lambasting and berating me like a child?

            Stay tuned.

          • November 14, 2016 at 9:37 pm
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            Oh yes, I remember… where you edited my posts to look like I said something I didn’t? That was fun!

            Hey, if you want to waste your day on that by all means. It makes me happy when you waste more of your time.

          • November 14, 2016 at 9:56 pm
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            No, nothing was edited. It was posted verbatim.

          • November 15, 2016 at 12:06 am
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            You said that I said Sith and Inquisitors were the same thing. I didn’t. I said the Inquisitors were a cheap work around to the rule of 2.

          • November 15, 2016 at 12:52 am
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            You repeatedly claimed that the Inquisitors were Sith. Unless you went back and edited all your comments, I can post them again.

          • November 15, 2016 at 3:42 am
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            Yeah. Go find it. You tried that before it didnt work. Also, where’s that quote where i said every american business is fleecing people? Lol.

          • November 15, 2016 at 3:51 am
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            Then its yet another edition of guess who’s wrong. Ill skip to the end… its you!

          • November 13, 2016 at 2:28 am
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            Btw the deleted scenes were already available and the directors commentaty was done before the initial disc release. So… next. Proving you wrong is so much fun. As much fun as when your hero lost the election!

          • November 13, 2016 at 3:25 am
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            Where is your evidence of that?

          • November 14, 2016 at 4:28 am
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            Just as an example, star trek beyond just came out on disc. It has all the special features, deleted scenes and directors commentary. 99% of films are done this way because commentary is done in post production. Force awakens could have done this. But they held back to make additional releases clearly to fleece the fans.

          • November 15, 2016 at 8:19 am
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            Amen bro!

        • November 15, 2016 at 8:16 am
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          OMG SOMEONE ACTUALLY REMEMBERS….

    • November 4, 2016 at 12:57 am
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      Because planet destroying super weapons, space monk wizards, and lasers swords don’t already stretch the suspension of disbelief in a space fantasy film.

      You’re my least favorite broken record.

  • November 3, 2016 at 8:58 pm
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    I appreciate the review.

    On the topic of these new releases –
    What I don’t appreciate is the trickle of releases.

    Next year we’ll get the Bluray UHD (4K) release, with more extra special content.
    Then before Ep8 we’ll get the combo UHD & 3D ultra awesome shiny version.

    Ugh!
    Sadly, I have to just WAIT now until that final version comes out, hopefully next year….as I’m not falling for this multi-release cycle again.

    “Milk, it does a body(/Disney) good”.

  • November 3, 2016 at 11:46 pm
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    This is the biggest load of crap – everything people worried about Disney taking advantage of SW fans – is exemplified in this 3-D blu ray release. They know not enough people have/want 3-D so they hold off on a ton of good material… namely director’s commentary… until this release. Shame on your Disney, haven’t you made enough this year and off of SW fans? And shame on JJ for going along with this.
    Second, it’s terrible that Disney put some deleted scenes on the digital version, some on the original blu-ray and now more on the 3-d blu ray trying to force fans to buy all three copies just to get all the deleted scenes. I used to care about deleted scenes, but this kind of crap has really turned me off. I’ll go to youtube for the deleted scenes. The director’s commentary not being on the first Blu-Ray releases really upsets me though.

    • November 4, 2016 at 12:59 am
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      This has gone on since time immemorial. Acting upset and surprised shows a level of ignorance to how marketing movies with serious fan bases work, or it’s faux hyperbole.

      It’s simple, son. The movie comes out, pretty much naked of extra features directly after the release of the film.

      You either buy it, so you can watch it, knowing the super deluxe mega edition is on the way.

      Or.

      You don’t buy it, then buy the super deluxe mega edition.

      Yes, they did it to make money. Star Wars isn’t a charity, it’s an intellectual property that was purchased for 4 billion dollars. Disney intends to profit from it.

      • November 7, 2016 at 5:40 am
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        Disney spent 4 billion dollars and want to profit from it EVERYDAY and God Bless them – they should. Its the best job anybodys done with the material since 1983.

        • November 7, 2016 at 5:52 am
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          Thats debatable but because they made a good movie (which they should be doing and we dont owe them anything for making it that way) it doesnt mean they can fleece the fans and we should just keep dishing over cash. And unless you own all versions of this movie then you need to just crawl back under your bridge.

          • November 11, 2016 at 6:38 pm
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            You don’t have to purchase either film. Or you can purchase both. Or you can purchase one. They aren’t making you do anything. Again, your anger over this is hilarious.

            So entitled. To what? I don’t know.

          • November 11, 2016 at 11:31 pm
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            I give up. You’re just too stupid and stubborn to understand this.

          • November 12, 2016 at 1:37 am
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            I would say it’s the opposite in this case.

          • November 12, 2016 at 3:02 am
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            Yeah but as this forum has already proven no one cares what you say.

          • November 12, 2016 at 6:12 am
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            One person stated that. You’re welcome to review my my public profile to see what other people have to say about the opinions and discussion I share and engage in on this site.

          • November 12, 2016 at 7:50 pm
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            We all know how many fake profiles you have.

          • November 12, 2016 at 8:13 pm
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            Just this one.

          • November 13, 2016 at 2:26 am
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            No one believes that. Just like no one believed TUD was upvoting himself.

          • November 13, 2016 at 3:26 am
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            He was. If you hover over the up vote icon it shows who up voted you. It showed him up voting himself.

            Also, “no one” lol, man you think you’re important. Always have an audience. No is reading this anymore.

            Now TUD tends to up vote everything on an article as he peruses it. He probably made the mistake of doing it that way. But since he decided to be combative, I gave him some crap.

          • November 14, 2016 at 4:24 am
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            Theres a lot of crap coming out of your mouth we agree on that. Which is probably why you lose so much in here. That and the fact im smarter than you and actually provide support for my claims.

          • November 14, 2016 at 7:25 pm
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            You’ve yet to actually provide support for your claims, and when you do, it has nothing to do with what we’re talking about. You are the King of Strawman arguments. From this point forth, you shall be known as Scarecrow.

          • November 14, 2016 at 9:41 pm
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            Sounds good, Hillary. Boy, I hope you’re not in this kind of denial over the election.

          • November 14, 2016 at 9:55 pm
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            This isn’t the place to discuss politics.

          • November 15, 2016 at 12:04 am
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            No discussion, just a fact.

          • November 15, 2016 at 12:52 am
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            This isn’t the place to discuss politics.

          • November 15, 2016 at 3:28 am
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            True or false: hillary lost the election?

          • November 15, 2016 at 4:09 am
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            You know I was thinking about this conversation, and I figured it out.

            I mean, there’s you resorting to your name calling and pathetic attempts at antagonism, that’s one thing.

            But I was trying to figure out the whole argument change. Why would you literally try to alter what you stated when the conversation started. At first I gave you far too much credit and thought it was an attempt to aggravate me into giving up on a discussion that didn’t make sense.

            But then I was reading those old posts when we first met. And I realized that you just keep talking so long about nothing you forget what you were even discussing in the first place. And then you literally start to make more sense when you post because you were so wrong to begin with that you start agreeing with what I’m saying without realizing it. Which is why you then end up trying to switch positions on the argument.

            Because not only am I right, whatever I am saying makes much more sense than the word salad dribbling from the corners of your intellect and out your mouth. So of course you begin to adopt that as your own argument and then assume it was your point the entire time.

            That is really, very, sad.

            But what it comes down to is this, and I think it’s quite evident; you have nothing to say. At all. I was looking back over your old posts and you’re this way with anyone who disagrees with you. And you don’t even need someone to respond to you; you will outright attack someone and call them stupid the first time you post a reply to their own opinions.

            I’m a social worker. I’ve spent a great deal of time working with the intellectually disabled. I want you to know Whedon, there is help for you out there. There are caring people and services who can help you through your disability and aide you in the journey to becoming a productive member of your community and society. Yes, even with your severe limitations.

            You are not alone. I know you think you are. I know that is why you come to this place for the negative attention you bring upon yourself. Because it’s all you have to make you feel as though you’re not dead inside. But Whedon, you don’t have to do it anymore. You can reach out to your county’s community mental health and ask for help today. Tonight even. And Whedon, you should. You don’t have to live like this anymore. You don’t have to hate yourself.

            Now here’s the thing. Since it is clear you have a serious disability, the way I have been engaging with you is very inappropriate. It’s actually against the code of ethics which professionals in my field must adhere to. This means I have to block you. I’m sorry for that, I really am, but I don’t think the help you need is going to be able to come to me.

            Just remember Whedon, your parents basement isn’t the last place you will live. If you work real hard and listen to your mental health worker, you could probably find a part time job working for minimum wage and then be placed in a group home. With people just like you. No biases. No judgments. You will be apart of a team. And a family.

            I wish you all the best, son. My prayers will be with your family that you are able to benefit from the appropriate care for your disability. It’s obvious that by allowing you to have unsupervised time on the internet they’re in desperate need of resources to ensure you are both safe and healthy. There are a lot of venues that just aren’t appropriate for you. Yet.

            Maybe after a few years of DBTs and a hospitalization if it turns out you have a co-occurring mental illness. Judging by this conversation, that may be the case.

            May The Force Be With You, friend.

          • November 12, 2016 at 9:10 pm
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            Speaking of fake profiles, now I see who you are! Whedon. And here I thought you had blocked me. So good to see you grace these forums with your diatribes once again.

            I am no longer shocked at how another person could carry on like you used to. You are in fact, one in the same.

          • November 13, 2016 at 2:25 am
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            When i heard there was an idiot ranting like a little girl on these forums i had to see for myself.

            Btw, you do know hillary lost, right.

          • November 13, 2016 at 3:27 am
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            Where did you hear an idiot was ranting on the forums? Who communicated that fact to you? You were actually already present posting in the thread before I did.

            It’s alright. You lost this one, like you did the last one (The Inquisitors are Sith, remember that classic? LOL). Better luck next time Whedon.

          • November 14, 2016 at 4:22 am
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            Oh yeah thanks for reminding me how i schooled you there too.

          • November 14, 2016 at 7:25 pm
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            You didn’t answer the question. Who reached out to tell you that I was posting on the forums and then possessed you to make a triumphant return to thwart me? Hm?

          • November 14, 2016 at 9:46 pm
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            There was a disturbance in the Force. I felt a tremor coming from the dork side.

          • November 14, 2016 at 9:54 pm
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            Again, you make up something new. How unexpected.

          • November 15, 2016 at 3:28 am
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            What are you the forum nazi? “Let me see your papers!” “I want names” lol. Nazi.

          • November 12, 2016 at 3:12 pm
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            Again, you’re welcome to check my public profile and determine for yourself if people like what I have to say. I think you’ll find between responses and up votes on my comments, that they do.

          • November 12, 2016 at 7:50 pm
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            It doesn’t count when it’s from your own fake profile.

          • November 12, 2016 at 8:13 pm
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            The system tracks where I post and who votes for me and replies to me. My handle has nothing to do with what you can and can’t see.

          • November 13, 2016 at 2:24 am
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            Blah blah blah fake profiles.

          • November 13, 2016 at 3:27 am
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            Prolific.

      • November 8, 2016 at 7:20 pm
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        Talk about ignorant, this movie was never released without any extras.

        And not every movie release works the way you claim.

        • November 8, 2016 at 11:50 pm
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          Read the entire post. Then respond appropriately.

          Didn’t say every movie. Comprehension ftw.

          • November 9, 2016 at 12:23 am
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            You implied as if it was common place and my point is its not. Not at all.

          • November 9, 2016 at 1:09 am
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            It is common place with large franchises where as the IP owners know they can release a film to video shortly after the theatrical release because people will want to own it.

            Then release a ritzy collectors edition later and people will still buy it.

            It’s been marketing tactic since late in the VHS life cycle.

          • November 10, 2016 at 1:41 am
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            Its actually not common practice to hold back existing material and dish out new releases only a few months apart. Its actually not common at all. Nor is it right.
            I dont get it how can you be so smug when youre just making it up as you go?

          • November 10, 2016 at 1:55 am
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            We will just ignore the last 20+ years of special edition and extended cut video releases to fit your narrative.

          • November 10, 2016 at 11:05 pm
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            I’ve already addressed all that and why this is completely different. in fact, I’ve addressed it more than once in this forum. Go troll elsewhere please.

          • November 11, 2016 at 12:44 am
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            You haven’t addressed anything. You just stated it isn’t so. And somehow you seem to think because you say something is the way it is, that everyone should agree with it. You’re starting to run on fumes here. This is fun.

          • November 11, 2016 at 6:00 am
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            Nice try.

            Also, i addressed it below with someone else.

          • November 11, 2016 at 12:21 pm
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            Yes, I saw you contradicting yourself.

          • November 11, 2016 at 11:30 pm
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            LOL I was going to repost it, but I see you already replied to it below. Can’t argue with facts, dude. You must have been reading one of your own posts!

          • November 12, 2016 at 1:38 am
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            Go ahead, actually do something you say you’re going to do. I’d be impressed.

          • November 12, 2016 at 3:01 am
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            Nah if youre to stupid and or lazy to read i cant help with that.

          • November 12, 2016 at 6:13 am
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            You have to provide me with something to read. So far all you’ve given me is an excellent demonstration in immaturity. Care to try something else?

            Hey, what about those three writers I asked about? You haven’t responded to that post. Probably because you have no idea what you’re talking about. As you continue to consistently prove.

          • November 12, 2016 at 7:49 pm
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            Facts are facts, kid.

          • November 12, 2016 at 8:13 pm
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            Yes, you haven’t provided any of those. Just excuses, opinions, and insults.

          • November 13, 2016 at 2:41 am
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            Facts are facts. Prove them wrong. Boom.

          • November 13, 2016 at 3:20 am
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            I’ve already given you everything you’ve asked for in the “debate” we had days ago that you stopped responding to because you can’t.

            Who were those three writers from the Clone Wars who were the most adult that left? I’m curious. You still haven’t answered that question.

          • November 14, 2016 at 4:20 am
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            You havent given anything. I flat out disproved your claim that star wars movies have been doing this for 20 years but your inability to read led to your downfall there.

            Just once i would like you to provide support for your diatribes.

          • November 14, 2016 at 7:26 pm
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            You’ve stated something without any factual evidence to back it up. You simply said “Oh they release these films when there’s new technology” and left it at that.

            Plus you continue to try to change the debate to fit what facts you do cite that have nothing to do with the original post. Which is your MO.

          • November 14, 2016 at 9:40 pm
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            I left it at that because that’s all there is to it. What are you blabbering on about this time, anyway. Just suck up your defeat like a man and move on. it’s really pathetic, Hillary.

          • November 14, 2016 at 9:56 pm
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            Afraid I’m not going anywhere. You, on the other, can always stop at any time.

          • November 15, 2016 at 12:03 am
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            I could. But I enjoy riling you up!

          • November 15, 2016 at 12:52 am
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            I am not the least bit riled.

          • November 15, 2016 at 3:25 am
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            Your replys show otherwise. This is too easy.

    • November 7, 2016 at 5:38 am
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      Youre an idiot. Buy it or dont buy but no one is nor should want to help you get what you want just because you think you deserve it and for less. Its profit driven. How or where you got any other idea is beyond me. They dont care and I dont care if youre poor or jealous of those that can/could’ve – had… leaving you to want… and write this. Jesus. Why do people want free shit? I need them to keep screwing you… and those like you so they can keep making good movies… and on and on. Youre aware were in America and were talking about the 7th installment of a Space Opera … which you saw and are now bitching that you cant afford to see or hear again. Ridiculous.

      • November 7, 2016 at 5:50 am
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        Listen moron i guarantee ive spent more on this franchise than you ever will… doesnt mean i want to get fleeced. Idiots like you making statements like “let them do whatever they want” is the reason for this crap. You dont mind getting ripped off? Fine just shit up and let the people that do have a say without some whiny ass bitch standing up for the system.
        And i never said i couldnt afford to see or hear again fool i said its ridiculous how many releases they keep putting out to fleece the fans who have given so much.
        We will see how much you care when they start splitying the movies in half and selling part 1 and part 2 as separate discs.

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