Speculation: A Darth Maul & Obi-Wan Kenobi Rematch May Be in the Works.


The Darth Maul/Obi-Wan Kenobi fight is often seen as the highlight of The Phantom Menace and is seen as one of the best lightsaber duels ever filmed. Interestingly, a cryptic hint from The Disney XD website, along with a similarly-vague hint from a Star Wars actor, suggests that another duel of the fates may happen within the Star Wars canon.



For those not initiated with why Maul is somehow on his feet again after becoming half the man he used to be, it was revealed in The Clone Wars that he didn’t actually die in The Phantom Menace and went into hiding. Why did this happen, you might ask? Reasons. (There was something about his undying hatred being the only thing that kept him alive after falling from an absurd height after being parted with his waist, but I don’t think anyone was paying attention.) After being rescued by his brother and mother (long story), his sanity was restored by means of Force-based “magic”, giving the former Sith Lord a pair of biomechanical legs in the process.





From that point on, Darth Maul decided that he had to live for two purposes – the first of which would be to take revenge against Obi-Wan Kenobi for the torment he had faced, and the second of which was to form a criminal empire that would be strong enough to gain the favor of his old master, Darth Sidious. While he got to fight Obi-Wan, he did not kill him when given the opportunity, and he later chose to kill Obi-Wan’s dear friend (Satine Kyrze) to make sure that the Jedi would suffer as he had suffered. Maul did ultimately gain Sheev Palpatine’s attention, but it backfired immensely – viewing Maul as nothing more than a pawn that he no longer had use for, Palpatine killed his family, disgraced him before Darth Tyranus (his newer apprentice), and made sure that his criminal empire collapsed under its own weight. Maul, however, would live to fight another day, fading into the shadows in search of dark secrets. Provided that you’ve seen the Season 2 finale of Rebels, you should be caught up to speed – Maul is back in the game, operating from the shadows. Even though he knows can’t win in a direct battle against the two remaining Sith Lords, he can make sure that they lose.


Long before The Clone Wars gave us the vague explanation of how Darth Maul could return and fight Obi-Wan Kenobi again, the concept of a rematch was first explored in Star Wars Visionaries with a story called “Old Wounds”, set three years after Revenge Of The Sith. The story explained that Maul had somehow survived his grevious injuries on Naboo and spent the remaining years of his life hunting after Obi-Wan, arriving too late to intercept the Jedi on Kamino, Geonosis, and Mustafar. Maul ultimately discovered Obi-Wan’s whereabouts by learning about the presence of Luke Skywalker through Polis Massa’s medical records, and interrogated and killed Watto to find out where the boy lived on Tatooine. He knew that if he targeted Skywalker, then Obi-Wan would come to his defense, allowing him to get revenge after over twenty years. With a bit of help from Owen Lars, Obi-Wan ultimately prevailed against Maul, but the distrust that Lars had for the Jedi was further cemented as he felt that the “crazy old wizard” brought danger to his family. Obi-Wan’s would distance himself from the Lars homestead to cremate Maul’s corpse in the Dune Sea, but silently promised to keep guard over Luke. While the story was non-canon (which is to say that it wasn’t even treated as a part of the Legends continuity), it was met with acclaim and was widely considered to be the highlight of the graphic novel.


Old Wounds


We all know that an Obi-Wan Kenobi movie isn’t going to happen for a while – even if there is substantially more fan interest in it than there is for a Han Solo movie – and the 2020 Anthology movie would be the absolute earliest opportunity for it to come out (if we’re operating on the presumption that they choose to delay the rumored Boba Fett movie further to make room for a movie about the Jedi). Since they’ve already shown a rematch in the realm of comic books (albeit in a different continuity), it’s not likely that they’ll use the same format to tell an updated version of the “Old Wounds” story. So the best fit for a rematch happening in the near future would be Rebels, which – as mentioned above – is set during a time when Maul is still kicking and operating in the shadows. In fact, a recent character description released on Disney XD’s website implies that Maul’s goal might be to get even with Obi-Wan – a description that seemingly alludes to the “Old Wounds” story…


Now freed from the dark depths of Malachor, Maul is running amuck in the galaxy. Driven by a decades-long thirst for vengeance that risks clouding his sanity, the restless former Sith Lord hopes to heal old wounds by completing a task he should have done years ago. Though Maul has found the galaxy has changed much during his exile, the dark side trickster knows where a few secrets are buried.


Perhaps a direct nod to the Legends story’s name may be a bit too on-the-nose, but we have to keep in mind that Lucasfilm already gave us a quote that quite obviously alluded to the name of the Legends continuity last season. Maul never did kill Obi-Wan, which is something he’s likely come to regret after losing absolutely everything. Perhaps in the midst of his greater plot to bring down Palpatine, Maul will wind up on Tatooine and discover that his arch-nemesis has been living there for years – and it’s even possible that might even look to see Luke as a potential apprentice (before his plan inevitably fails).


If the narrative of Rebels calls for such a rematch, then it would only make sense that the story would take place much later in the timeline – Maul only got free of his exile six months before the beginning of Season 3 (which is set roughly two years before A New Hope), and Obi-Wan’s pre-A New Hope adventures in the comic books have only focused on his skirmishes with gangsters on Tatooine in the middle of the gap between Revenge Of The Sith and A New Hope. In addition, Dave Filoni has stated that he would like Ewan McGregor to appear on Rebels at some point – perhaps this kind of a story is what would necessitate the presence of the original Obi-Wan actor as opposed to a voice actor who can do a good impression.


One last thing: Ray Park, the actor for Darth Maul in The Phantom Menace, tweeted this in response to a fan’s question regarding an image used to promote the movie:





Since Ray Park didn’t actually provide the voice of Darth Maul for the few lines that he had in The Phantom Menace (that would be Peter Serafinowicz dubbing over Park, for those of you that are wondering), it’s not likely that he is going to inexplicably take over Sam Witwer’s “Maul duty” for the (currently) hypothetical episode in which the hypothetical rematch takes place. He may be aware of what they have planned for the show to coyly hint about what’s to come – it certainly wouldn’t be the first time that happened with the show – or he might just be messing with our heads. We at Star Wars News Net will be sure to keep you covered on this subject and others as more information becomes available.



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Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.

Grant Davis (Pomojema)

Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.

176 thoughts on “Speculation: A Darth Maul & Obi-Wan Kenobi Rematch May Be in the Works.

  • September 7, 2016 at 7:36 pm

    “even if there is substantially more fan interest in it than there is for a Han Solo movie”

    Huh? Since when?

    Of course MacGregor was one of the only good things about the prequels, but many, many more people like Han Solo as a character than young(ish) Obi-Wan.

    • September 7, 2016 at 7:45 pm

      In this instance, “substantially more fan interest” means “anecdotal evidence gleaned from the comments section”.

    • September 7, 2016 at 8:00 pm

      I’d agree in saying the Han Solo is a more popular character but it is because of that why many people don’t want him to be touched. Especially now that Harrison Ford is finished with the character.

      • September 8, 2016 at 8:34 pm

        This! If there was a choice to see Harrison Ford play Han or Ewin play Obi-Wan, its an easy choice to what I would want to see. Someone else playing Han, that changes this drastically.

    • September 7, 2016 at 8:27 pm

      I’ve seen a *lot* of ambivalence regarding the Han Solo movie. There are a bunch of people who think that Harrison Ford is the only person capable of embodying the character and that the actor who is stepping into his character’s shoes is going to have his work cut out for him. Conversely, I’ve seen a lot more fans get behind the idea of an Obi-Wan movie because Ewan McGregor has said he’s up to it and that there’s a lot of directions you could take the character’s story in.

      – Pomojema

      • September 7, 2016 at 9:03 pm

        A “bunch of people” doesn’t exactly equate to substantially more fan interest, especially when we are talking about major theatrical releases that will be aimed at the general public rather than hardcore fans.

        I would think that any widespread market research would show much more interest in spinoffs from the OT than the prequels. An Obi-Wan movie could be the perfect mix for those two audiences, but there’s no way it’s more anticipated than the chance to see Han Solo and Chewie in their prime.

        • September 7, 2016 at 9:16 pm



          • September 7, 2016 at 10:11 pm

            Well, you really found an un-biased source there. Good journalism all around.

          • September 8, 2016 at 12:06 am

            good lord…not you again

          • September 8, 2016 at 1:44 am

            the fact is only die hard fans of star wars don’t like/hate prequels. Casual public who are not in SW every day like Prequels as movies, or they don’t compare it to Originals. The fact is die hard fans are minority but not here. i deal with critics on Prequels on every post here, i don(t care now. they can think what they want. i like prequels and originals and still consider myself a real fan of SW. You should do same.

          • September 8, 2016 at 1:59 am

            *citation needed.

          • September 8, 2016 at 2:04 am

            ah well i haven’t. but in my circle of friends/family it’s the conclusion i am coming to. Prequels are not bad movies on their own, but i can understand for die hard fans (not negative here, i respect that) it lacks emotional level comparing to the originals.

            yeah and iknew your post was a joke.

          • September 8, 2016 at 2:09 am

            i would wager the divide stretches far beyond us nerds. not prequel hating, but they are pretty polarizing in general… though what isn’t these days? 😉

          • September 8, 2016 at 4:08 am

            The “Die hard” fans you are reffering to are the people who doesn’t get the full picture. ( This is when people start to hate ) I read something that makes perfect sense, the text refer to them as: “People who like 70s & early 80s movies,” And not necesary: “People who like Star wars in it’s full vision” they only like a part of Star Wars, So the title of “Diehard fan” may be debatable.

          • September 8, 2016 at 8:32 pm

            So you’re saying that unless someone loves everything that Star Wars does they aren’t a diehard? Wouldn’t a diehard fan actually be critical of something and have an acceptable level of quality for something that they love? In your definition it sounds like a diehard fan is the equivalent to a 16 year old girl that loves the backstreet boys.

          • September 8, 2016 at 9:33 pm

            All movies have flaws, all 7, but let’s concentrate in Lucas vision, you can be critical and that’s totaly fine, you don’t need to love every single piece in Star Wars, it depends on every person, I have my own thoughts for every single one too, but, Star Wars is a vision made in a big story that is divided by episodes, right? 6 episodes, If some one dislike the half of that vision, and only accept the half that didn’t fully reach that vision, because the technology or whatever, maybe that someone doesn’t really like Star Wars as it is, and only likes those 3 movies that were made in 77-83, see the point? Star Wars is what it is, like it or not.

            That’s totally fare, isn’t it? So when that person consider himself/herself a die hard fan and fits that description, how can be that? not being loyal to what he/she presume is, and just to a part of that, those three episodes that were made first.

          • September 8, 2016 at 10:16 pm

            Lucas never had a full vision from the start. His vision drastically changed even from the first draft of ANH till the last one…
            For instance in the very early versions of ANH the dark side was called ,,the booger” and the death star was supposed to be fueled by the ,,booger”.
            Its perfectly fine only to like certain parts of the vision.

          • September 8, 2016 at 11:57 pm

            That’s completly wrong. Every fan of SW knows GL wrote all script on his university time. and the reason he made 4-6 before was the lack of money. So yes GL envisioned his SW from the start, with Anakin, the republic, the fall of the Jedi Order, the 66 order, Luke, the rebellion and such. A proof is in 4 when Old Kenobi talks to Luke about the ancient war. I ve always watched SW in my native language. But for once i watched it in english. And i ve found Obi Wan called this war the Clone War (Black War in french dubbing) it’s maybe SE adding but i doubt they re-recorded Guiness voice. So 26 years before Episode 2 went out, a link to Prequels appeared in Episode 4. If it doesn’t prove you GL envisioned SW in one shoot, i dk what to say more

          • September 10, 2016 at 3:16 pm

            This is completely untrue. Luke wasnt even Vader’s son by the time ANH was written nor was Leia the sister of Luke (be that time she was written years older than Luke).
            The story went through 100s of changes by dozens of artist’s ideas.

          • September 9, 2016 at 12:20 am

            Totally agree with that, a story in development have a lot o changes in the process, it has to evolve and mutate, it is a creative process, every movie has it’s first treatment and draft, and if you compare them with the actual movie for sure there will be a lot o differences, and in cases a complet different thing.

            And you know, Lucas had statated, a lot of times, about his vision, and how the three first movies thats were limited in some aspect, because the limits of what can be done technicaly at that time, the main reason he later added different aliens in the cantina, and a lot other things, a bunch of them were recicled from other projects and were not created specificaly for the movie, son when he had the chance he changed it, to get more close to that vision i’m talking. Same reason why jabba wasnt in ANH at the first time.

            So a vision and a concept in its full, in this case conformed by 6 episodes, is one thing, that is Star Wars, an episodic story. So how can a person be a diehard fan, if dislikes, or ingnore, or dont accept a big part of that, Star wars is not just IV,V, and VI, thats just the hal, and if you count everything else that lives in cannon, that three episodes ar just a small part.

            Imagine if you say you area diehard fan of a Camaro, but you only like the seats, and the front of the car,and the mirrors, but dislike everything else, the back, the doors, etc. Are you really a diehard fan of the Camaro? I think you are fan of the front and seats and the front part, but not fan of the thing, the concept o vision of the Camaro, can you see my point?

            So a person who only accepts IV, V, and VI, is a fan of that, but not a fan of the Star Wars as a thing, and I think is debatable if he is a Diehardfan as he/she can presume, is a Star Wars fan, yes, but a Diehard fan? Star Wars is 6 espisodes, like it or not, right?

          • September 9, 2016 at 1:49 am

            I love, incidentally, that this same “Nay troo fahn!!!” accusation was repeatedly leveled at a recently banned member here because, their obvious trolling aside, they were very…ahem…VOCAL about their dislike of TFA. It’s equal-opportunity tribalism!

          • September 9, 2016 at 3:01 am

            It’s insane. I don’t think I’ve seen 100 terrible Star Wars anything aside from the holiday special. It’s totally cool to like things and to not like everything but this fan extremism, is well, very extreme. The canon babies here are insane.

        • September 8, 2016 at 4:06 am

          I agree in what you say about the perfect mix, it would be something like what Roge One is making now, but in a higher level because the main characters.

          And it will surprise you the amount of people that want an Obi-wan movie over a Han Solo movie.

      • September 7, 2016 at 9:34 pm

        speaking just for myself, i’m very interested in the solo movie. especially since lord and miller are directing it.

        • September 8, 2016 at 6:03 am

          Right, I’m not knocking the movie, especially considering that the creative team behind it is pretty solid. It’s just that the consensus around here seems to be “Do we *really* need this movie?” as opposed to “Yay, more Star Wars!” – I think that the difference in reaction is telling, to say the least.

          It’ll still make a kazillion dollars, I’m sure. But I get the gut feeling that though an Obi-Wan movie would be a lot easier to pull off, with a potentially greater overall reward in store for Lucasfilm.

          – Pomojema

          • September 8, 2016 at 7:00 am

            i have a hunch once images and footage start to come out for solo the tide will turn, it has too much going for it not to. but at the end of the day i’m hopeful we won’t have to choose and we’ll get both films.

      • September 9, 2016 at 2:40 am

        Exactly. And, Ewan’s near universally loved as Obi-Wan in TPM.

    • September 7, 2016 at 10:35 pm

      I personally have always felt that way. Much more interested in seeing Ewin take up Obi Wan again and redeem the prequels a bit rather than someone else playing Han Solo.

  • September 7, 2016 at 7:46 pm

    Want an Obi-Wan movie, less enthused about a Maul movie or appearance in a live action film.

    • September 8, 2016 at 1:14 am

      Check the novel Maul the hunter. We can have Maul and Obi Wan i n the same standalone movie, but not facing each other.

  • September 7, 2016 at 8:04 pm

    Maul surviving both being chopped in half and that fall down the shaft is the dumbest thing to ever get written into canon. I love the character and his potential, but come on…

    • September 7, 2016 at 9:38 pm

      Maul getting killed in Ep I was the dumbest thing to ever get written into canon. Actually, no, that would be the rest of the PT, but killing Maul was a huge mistake.

      • September 8, 2016 at 1:16 am

        Maul’s face looks angry and surprised when he felt, not dead.

        “The Dark Side is a way to acquire some unnatural powers”.

    • September 7, 2016 at 10:09 pm

      Exactly. Chalk it up to you get what you asked for. So many people complained that GL had to violate the previously established logic of the Star Wars universe to make it happen. It’s an absurdity on par with making Rey the reincarnation of Anakin Skywalker.

    • September 8, 2016 at 7:59 pm

      At least his wound was cauterized. As I’ve told two other people now, you’re forgetting that a dude magically survives a 100% unsurvivable, minutes-long exposure to lava-fire, two movies later. Little Ani would have been melted goo at best, and realistically would have been a pile of ash. Palpatine would never have made it in time. Just a couple seconds of that would kill a real life person.

      The common thread is the hate and rage of the Dark Side that sustains users in denying death. This is how they lose their humanity and soul, whereas the Jedi accept death to maintain their souls and humanity. That’s how Sith can cheat death in these films.

      • September 9, 2016 at 2:37 am

        Re: “At least his wound was cauterized.”

        Exactly. That’s why it was so acceptable in Mars Attacks, it was cauterized!

  • September 7, 2016 at 8:11 pm

    I hate the idea of resurrecting a character simply because of popularity. Providing Darth Maul survives bisection, the lightsaber striking below all of his vital organs, he still has to survive having his upper body battered against the walls of the tube he falls in, then have the concentration to use the force to prevent his body from impacting against whatever is at the bottom of the tube, be it machinery, chemicals, fire, a vacuum or whatever the hell that tube was used for. He then has to find a way out of that tube, hobbling his severed body through the underground workings of the Theed power facility to find a way up to the surface, find a ship to escape in, all without being seen by a single person who could potentially report his presence. Has any book or novel attempted to explain this? Any way, it’s too much of a stretch to believe he survives the duel with Obi Wan. But just like Boba Fett, the miraculous resurrection is made possible by the popularity of the character.

    • September 7, 2016 at 11:56 pm

      In all fairness to fett, he was in armor with a plethora of weapons at his disposal. Plus, in life debt the sarlacc was killed by the explosion of Jabba’s sail barge so escaping would have been pretty easy.

    • September 8, 2016 at 12:02 am

      But he did survive, it just hasn’t been shown in a movie. I don’t like a lot of things done in Star Wars, but that doesn’t make it any less canon. I hate Death Star III (aka Starkiller Base) but that can’t be changed now.

      • September 8, 2016 at 9:44 am

        I am fine with Starkiller Base, because if you view the technology of the planet-destroying weapon as a source of ultimate power in the universe, you will have people constantly trying to attain that technology to dominate and control people. Think of it as the Star Wars version of the nuclear bomb. The failure of the first two attempts does not deter others, consumed by their own hubris, from thinking that their new incarnation of the weapon will succeed. Militaries often reuse the same weapons and tactics over time. They just refine them and make them more technologically advanced. But having Darth Maul survive that bisection and fall is just plain stupid.

        • September 8, 2016 at 5:27 pm

          But this isn’t history, it’s a series of movies. I don’t want to watch a continuum of films where movie after movie has a band of rebels flying into a country to destroy a foreign government’s nuclear weapon. After the first time, you’re excited about it. But then just TWO movies later: well that government made another nuclear bomb, guess we’ll have to do this all over again (just in a slightly modified way). Then by the 4th movie: Aw man! They have an even BIGGER nuclear bomb? Guess we’ll have to go and take it out again. That has been 3 out of the last 4 films (chronologically speaking). Time to move on from the world destroying weapons and the building up to the “Trench Run”. You can only pull the rabbit out of the hat so many times before the trick gets old.

          • September 16, 2016 at 3:31 am

            Then you’re missing the whole point of the films. The movies aren’t about the technology of war. They are about conflicts between families, between good and evil. What weapons they use is purely secondary.

    • September 8, 2016 at 2:34 am

      LUcas didn’t do it b/c of that reason.

    • September 8, 2016 at 7:53 pm

      And Anakin not dying instantly from lava-fire exposure is believable? Come on dude. Nobody could ever, ever, ever survive *minutes* of that exposure and live. He would have been a pile of black charcoal dust. If you want to talk about realism in death scenes, you’ve got the wrong series. Either accept that Dark Side practicioners’ hatred and rage sustains them in denying death, or accept that Star Wars doesn’t care about what should realistically kill somebody.

      Cuz Anakin’s just as dead as Maul if we go that route. Palps was waaay too late to that barbecue. Ain’t no saving that guy. Maul’s injury was at least controlled via cauterization from Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon’s lightsaber. We’ve seen Force Users land ridiculous falls safely a dozen times in Star Wars canon, so a hate and rage filled Sith Lord would probably be more than in-tune enough with the Dark Side to land safely. Anakin was able to drag his body along sand when it should have been melted goo at best! Or more realistically, ash.

      • September 16, 2016 at 3:25 am

        Anakin’s survival was necessary because his character was present in a pre-existing trilogy that followed the film in which that fight took place. If you want to fault Lucas for making the injuries too severe to be plausible to have him survive for 4-6, fine. But Darth Maul is brought back because of one reason – he was popular. That’s a stupid reason to bring someone back and necessitates an implausible survival when that survival, unlike Anakin’s, was not necessary.

  • September 7, 2016 at 8:15 pm

    Even a standalone Maul movie would be amazing, if they indeed get Ray Park to do it

    • September 8, 2016 at 1:08 am

      yeah there was a novel titled Maul the Hunter. It was the story of a padawan girl and master on the tracks of Maul. It involved the Black Sun, Obi Wan and Lorn a random guy. The story telling was awesome and set exclusively on Coruscant a little time ago before Episode 1. This novel would make a great movie, and a prequel of the prequels, if i can say.

      • September 9, 2016 at 7:30 pm

        Sounds cool, will have to read it

  • September 7, 2016 at 8:38 pm

    not sure we need maul v obi-wan again, even to finally kill maul off for good, but i’d still watch it.

  • September 7, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    Maul coming back would be terrible storytelling. It’s the sort of thing i’d expect in a z-grade kung-fu schlock film, not in a series that’s supposedly upping its game after the mediocrity of the prequels.

    Besides, there is no way Disney will be banging us over the heads with iconic reminders of The Phantom Menace any time soon.

    There is no way we are seeing Maul again in the live action films.

    • September 7, 2016 at 9:11 pm


    • September 7, 2016 at 9:31 pm

      have you watched the maul episodes in clone wars? they might change your mind.

    • September 7, 2016 at 9:48 pm

      Or you wish is more like it.

    • September 7, 2016 at 10:40 pm

      Guess you haven’t read Lucasfilm’s story group Pablo Hidalgo’s thought about the prequels not be allowed in new canon or films conspiracy, he said it’s never been true..

  • September 7, 2016 at 10:19 pm

    It would be cool to get a Darth Plagueis movie. A movie about a guy that can supposedly cheat death would be awesome. Sounds like a force to be reckoned with.

    • September 8, 2016 at 2:33 am

      Except he got did in so he didn’t cheat shit.

  • September 7, 2016 at 11:48 pm

    Maul is dead. End of story. His survival was good alternative fanfiction to watch in an animated feature, but live? It would be terrible imo.

    • September 7, 2016 at 11:57 pm

      Maul isn’t dead regardless of you saying so. Clone Wars and Rebels are canon, just as much as the live action movies. Just because they originally planned for him to be dead, doesn’t mean it is so now. Star Wars has a history of changing the story ya know.

      • September 8, 2016 at 12:49 am

        If Maul can live then we might as well bring back Han, Padme, Biggs, Palpatine, and Jabba. With the exception of force ghosts, there is no point in a climactic death if it is not real and final.

        • September 8, 2016 at 12:51 am

          What a dumb statement!

          • September 8, 2016 at 1:57 am

            Bring back Padme – she didn’t even have a scratch on her. She just lost the will to live – sustantially easier to overcome than being cut in half and falling down a rather deep looking hole. Qui Gonn died from a pin prick in comparison.

          • September 8, 2016 at 2:05 am

            Padme is not a Sith. or have i missed smthg here ?

          • September 8, 2016 at 3:12 am

            Oh shit. She was in on it all along. She’s STILL ALIVE! Vader felt it! It was all a ruse!

          • September 8, 2016 at 3:22 am

            No, Padme is the real bad guy in the suit. Anakin died of flu.

          • September 8, 2016 at 7:44 pm


          • September 8, 2016 at 10:42 am

            Did you even pay attention to Palpatine’s words in Revenge of the Sith? “The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.” The dark side allows one to prolong life in the mortal world, the light in the spiritual plane of existence.

          • September 9, 2016 at 1:53 am

            I wouldn´s believe that old Sith fart a nose beween his eyes….

          • September 9, 2016 at 4:47 am

            Palpatine never lies, and when he ‘does’, he only distorts and twists the truth. So there’s always a bot of truth in everything he says.

          • September 9, 2016 at 2:32 am

            #bringbackquigonn -let’s make this happen!
            Then he can re-fight Maul, as the Maul fan’s would want.

        • September 8, 2016 at 2:39 am

          I agree. Let’s bring back the people of Alderaan, Hosian Prime, Finn’s friend, the clone troopers, Mace, the ewoks who died, stormtroopers, twi’lek Jedi, general Grievious,…

        • September 8, 2016 at 4:17 am

          His death wasn’t climactic, it was a complete waste.

      • September 8, 2016 at 11:45 am

        Keep hugging that canon blanket tightly. There is a 0.000000 chance he shows up on live action, yes he technically is still alive, but if you just watch the movies you’d never know it. It’s all canon but the movies canon trumps animation. Until there is a meaningful cross over from animation to live action (Saw in RO doesn’t count) then there will always be that distinction. It would be cool if Luke mentions Ashoka or something in Ep 8/9 (not holding my breath). The animated universe exists with the films, and while the films won’t directly contradict the animated series they won’t be taking major characters from it. This is mostly due to the fact that we are working backwards from the films. I’m sure if Lucas could do it all over again he would plan it better, but that’s not the world we live in.

    • September 8, 2016 at 12:02 am

      It’s not “fan fiction” because Lucas OKed it.

      • September 8, 2016 at 11:35 am

        Lucas OK’d Hayden being put in at the end of ROTJ and Vader yelling NOOOOOOO as he threw the Emperor down the shaft. Doesn’t mean it was a good idea.

        • September 8, 2016 at 9:38 pm

          the two don’t equal each other. fan fiction implies illegitimacy which clone wars most certainly isn’t.

        • September 9, 2016 at 12:59 am

          Neither of which has anything to do with story/plot impact on the film.
          That’s like complaining he changed a blue sky to purple & compare that to bringing Han back in Ep9 – “he survived the fall!” surprise ending.

      • September 8, 2016 at 10:06 pm

        Its uncertain what Lucas oked and not with TCW. I personally think he didnt care too much. And even if oked it in an animated feature, im pretty sure he wouldn’t ok it in a live movie. He is not stupid.

        • September 8, 2016 at 10:25 pm

          if you listen to dave filoni talk about CW he says lucas was very hands on. hell, he even changed the name korriban to moraband just because he thought it sounded better.

          as to if he’d have let maul back into the films who knows, but thats not issue. he let maul come back, hence he is legit canon. period.

          • September 10, 2016 at 3:22 pm

            Its only half-canon as I call it. Rebels for instance is filled with pre-ANH force users who are way stronger than Luke was.
            There is a clear distinction between the live and the animated canon.

          • September 10, 2016 at 11:08 pm

            so what? none of that contradicts anything from the films. luke was in fact the last jedi and the last hope to defeat vader and the emperor. what happened before doesn’t affect it in the slightest.

            no matter how you choose to see it lucas always said the movies AND the tv shows were canon, and disney has reaffirmed this. you can fight the windmills all you want but this is how it is.

          • September 11, 2016 at 12:12 am

            Not only it contradicts with ANH (which clearly states that the jedi were gone long ago), but also diminishes Luke’s story as the Rebel jedi were fighting a much bigger war against Vader and the Empire filled with ancient jedi era stuff which not even Luke was able to witness…

          • September 11, 2016 at 12:28 am

            i think you need to watch it again.

            obi-wan: “vader helped the emperor hunt down and destroy the jedi knights… now the jedi are all but extinct.”

            none of that states they were gone a long time ago or that they are gone completely(especially since obi-wan and yoda are still alive). further, even if what you said was true rebels takes place prior to ANH so obi-wan would still be correct. give pablo and the story group a little bit of credit here, they’ve looked this stuff over from a hundred different angles.

          • September 12, 2016 at 12:35 pm

            There isnt a single line of dialogue which I wouldn’t know by heart from the OT.

            Tarkin: ” The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that’s left of their religion.”
            And Han also acts like he dosent know about the jedi or the force, despite beeing familiar with the anti-empire stuff (although this was also heavily contradicted by the PT as well, as Han was around 10 during the clone wars).

            And its not really the fact that there are jedi pre-ANH era which bothers me, but rather the fact that their missions and adventures eventually diminishes Luke’s story, as it turns out the galaxy was filled with far more powerful force users than Luke was. They were also fighting a much bigger war against Vader and the Empire than Luke was. They also get to discover ancient jedi era elements which Luke wasn’t even able to (at least until ROTS).

            Dont get me wrong, the show is fun to watch, but neither TCW nor Rebels are not canon as far as I consider, only half-canon or an alternative story.

          • September 12, 2016 at 9:21 pm

            tarkin: surely he(obi-wan) must be dead by now.
            vader: don’t underestimate the power of the force.
            vader isn’t shocked that obi-wan is still alive(and we haven’t even got to yoda yet). while i think tarkin is just talking a big game while not actually being sure.

            but we can site precedent both ways i think. i will concede the han solo point as despite the propaganda that the empire was surely putting out about the jedi being extinct han of all people would have heard whispers about kanan and ezra’s exploits.

            still it works for me because the most important parts line up.

    • September 8, 2016 at 2:33 am

      I love people who declare anything they don’t like as fan fiction.

      your comment is fan fic.

      There? See how insane that is?

      • September 8, 2016 at 11:09 am

        If Maul lives than bring back Han maybe? Or Darth Vader? Despite the fact that TCW and Rebels are canon there is still a huge difference between live and animated…

        • September 8, 2016 at 3:46 pm

          Maul already lives. They already did this and it was George Lucas’s idea. So deal with it, whether you like it or not. I thought it was silly, but the resulting stories were worthwhile.

          • September 8, 2016 at 4:52 pm

            Lucas’s ideas are on a downhill since 1980… More reasonable people are currently in charge of SW, and I really hope they’ll be smart enogh not to bring back obviously dead characters into live action.

          • September 8, 2016 at 5:17 pm

            That’s a matter of opinion, but hopefully they follow this advice with Darth Plagueis.

          • September 8, 2016 at 8:16 pm

            Thats why I emphasized the word obviously. Plagueis is not obviously dead.

          • September 8, 2016 at 8:25 pm


            Yeah, he totally is. He was introduced as being dead solely for the purpose of seducing Anakin. He is dead. Bringing him back would be dumber than bringing Maul back.

          • September 8, 2016 at 8:36 pm

            Absolutely not. Its not even canon what Palpatine said was true. There are hundreds of ways they can bring Plagueis back, while there is zero for Maul (which would make a tiny bit of sense).

          • September 8, 2016 at 9:55 pm

            Yeah, it’s actually the MOST canon what Palpatine said. He said he killed him. If they do anything else, that would require a retcon and would change the prequels, which I doubt they would do since that is Lucas’ set in stone works.

            He killed him. He even said: HE COULD NOT SAVE HIMSELF. You can pretend all you want, but DP is dead.

          • September 8, 2016 at 10:02 pm

            Just because he said it dosent make it true. You know… its called lying. Manipulative powerhungry sith lords tend to lie very often.

            Or he could very easely been just wrong. Plagueis survived the assassination attempt (unlike Maul’s ceratin on screen death) leaving the Plagueis arc it very open.
            Just like how he lied/was wrong about Padmé’s death.

          • September 9, 2016 at 12:17 am

            Yeah, except he isn’t in this case b/c Plagueis wouldn’t have hung around waiting for that long.

            Sorry, but George killed Plagueis and he is dead and staying dead. The Story Group has confirmed this. They won’t retcon George.

          • September 10, 2016 at 3:12 pm

            Plagueis was critically wounded and was hiding from Palpatine as long as he lived. Its really not that hard to explain.

          • September 10, 2016 at 5:07 pm

            Then you got Palpatine looking like a chump and not making sure his master was dead. Sorry, not happening. He is dead and staying dead.

          • September 11, 2016 at 12:08 am

            Why would he look like a chump? Does Obi-wan look like a chump for not killing Anakin? Plagueis is the strongest dark side user in canon, he was able to get away somehow (could be explain in dozens of ways)…

          • September 11, 2016 at 3:00 am

            “Why would he look like a chump?”

            Because he said he killed his master and then was wrong. He was fooled.

            “Does Obi-wan look like a chump for not killing Anakin?”

            No, because he isn’t a Sith. A question like this hints at a fundamental misunderstanding of what a Jedi is. Obi-Wan left Anakin alive on purpose b/c he thought he was a goner.

            Palpatine wouldn’t do that when betraying his master, something he presumably planned for years.

            “Plagueis is the strongest dark side user in canon…”

            Baseless. We don’t know that for sure.

            But we do know this:

            “Then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death…but not himself.”

            Killed in his sleep. Doesn’t seem like something you could mess up. And couldn’t save himself.

            Case closed. Have a good weekend.

          • September 12, 2016 at 12:19 pm

            “Obi-Wan left Anakin alive on purpose b/c he thought he was a goner.”
            So what? He was a great danger to all jedi and the Republic. Both Yoda and Obi-wan went to find the 2 sith with the intention of killing them.

            “Baseless. We don’t know that for sure.”
            Its not baseless at all. He was the only one in canon who was able to save people from death. That certainly makes him at least one of the strongests in canon.

            Plagueis didnt die in his sleep because either Palpatine was lying (Plagueis might discovered his intentions and fled in time) or failed to do so. That wouldn’t make him a chump at all. And even if it would, it dosent matter. What matters is it dosent contradict with logic and/or the established story (like Maul’s survival would).

            AND! Its not even canon yet that Plagueis was indeed Palpatine’s master.

            Case closed. Bye.

          • September 12, 2016 at 3:18 pm

            Case reopened on account of you being wrong:
            Obi-Wan thought he succeeded. He walked away. It makes him humane (which you want from a hero), instead of performing a coup de grace.

            “But could not save himself.” is also canon. You seem to ignore that one. And here: if Maul’s survival (direct from Lucas) contradicts established story, then so would Plagueis’s. You can’t pick which one you like and which you don’t. You have to apply the same logic to both. Plagueis being alive would retcon what George put in his movies, therefore, not happening.

            AND: “AND! Its not even canon yet that Plagueis was indeed Palpatine’s master.”

            Well, I guess you didn’t read the Tarkin book then because Palpatine refers to Plagueis as his master. Which makes it canon. Which means he is dead. Which means you are wrong.

            Oh, that’s the case being closed.

          • September 12, 2016 at 6:46 pm

            Alright, so I also ,,reopen” the case on ground of you keep continuing to give illigocal answers.

            If Obi-wan thought he suceeded than he does actually became a chump as you’d say it. Just imagine his face when he found out that Anakin lives in a robot suit and keeps destrying the Repiblic…

            Also how is watching your friend die in one of the most horrible ways possible ,,humane”??? That makes him a sadist, not a hero. A hero actually would’ve perfomed a coup de grace.

            “But could not save himself.” is also canon.
            Can’t you comprehend what im saying? Just because a character said something dosent make it canon. He could’ve been either wrong or lying, capice? Since nothing was shown or fleshed out in detalis, the whole Plagueis arc was left open. Maul’s survial does contradict the story even if it came directly from Lucas (which is highly unlikely). There is no logical way he could’ve survived, while there would be dozens for Plagueis…

            “Well, I guess you didn’t read the Tarkin book then because Palpatine refers to Plagueis as his master.”
            The books arent canon. At least as far as I know only the movies and the two animated shows are canon.

            Btw, I really doubt Plagueis would come back. What im trying to explain to you is that his survival wouldn’t conradict with logic/story like Maul’s would.

          • September 12, 2016 at 6:54 pm

            No, b/c Obi-Wan and the Sith are different. He beat Anakin. Palpatine planning to kill his master is entirely different than Obi-Wan and Anakin. It would take years of planning and treachery and he would make sure there is no doubt. He would not be merciful.
            Yes, I understand that Palpatine could be lying. But I don’t think he is and I don’t think Lucas wrote him as if he were lying. If they go back on that, they would contradict Lucas and I don’t see them doing that.

            The only reason anyone thinks he is alive is b/c he could “cheat death” but they ignore the other part of that scene where he couldn’t save himself. It’s wishful thinking.

            It’s a fact that the Maul story came from Lucas, the Story Group has confirmed this.

            ….The new books are canon. Everything newly released is canon now. That’s a fact, one easily confirmed if you google it or even frequent this site regularly. All books/comics are now canon moving forward.

            I think it would contradict as much as Maul’s did is my point.

          • September 8, 2016 at 7:37 pm

            Funny how you say Maul was obviously dead. Well, let’s be honest, so was Anakin Skywalker. 100% of people who burn the way he did… die. Nobody survives that kind of 5,000 degree death. We’re talking lava-fire exposure for multiple minutes. Maul losing his legs is no more unbelievable than that, in the real world. Little Annie melted to death, IRL. So that leaves Maul, with his cauterized leg/pelvis wound, arguably more reasonable.

            We’re talking about people consumed by the hate and evil of the Dark Side who refuse to accept death. It’s one of their differences with the Jedi, who accept death and thereby retain their Humanity or soul in the next life. The Sith do not accept death. They deny death, and lose their Humanity or soul in the process, becoming monsters of one kind or another. They cheat death. That’s how a Maul or Vader, as we know them today, come to be. Hateful, bitter, revenge-driven, half-crazy shells of their former selves. That’s why their deaths weren’t full deaths in Star Wars. It’s metaphor.

          • September 8, 2016 at 8:12 pm

            No need for forced arguments like this. Anakin didnt die because the next scene after his ,,accident”, we were told he survived and got immidiate help from his ally who wanted to save him.

            Also, Im pretty sure there is higher chance of surviving burn damage than getting cut in half AND falling like 50 meters. Maul seemed pretty dead when he hit his head while falling and then bouncing like a ragdol…
            And even if he survived somehow, who would’ve found him and why would he help him without informing the jedi or someone Padmé-related on Naboo?

          • September 8, 2016 at 8:46 pm

            Having a character say “he didn’t die” is exactly what I’m talking about. That’s just part of the suspension of disbelief. When you take away the suspension of disbelief and look at things realistically, you’ll find that the kind of exposure Anakin suffered (the kind of burns a Human being in reality *can’t* survive for more than seconds) was 100% unsurvivable. Yes, people can survive far lesser burns in reality, lose facial features, etc. But those are everyday fires. Do you know how many times hotter being a foot away from a lake of lava is?

            The air itself would be instantly deadly, melting or ashing the lungs. The actual fire on his body from that lava would instantly kill him. You have no clue how dead this guy would be in real life. It’d be absolutely horrifying and life-ruining to see. I’m guessing you’re not familiar with extreme fire/heat/lava exposure though. Maybe you can find a Quora post or YouTube video that talks about that scene from a realistic perspective.

            All I’m saying is that suspension of disbelief doesn’t change the reality of the fact that Anakin’s death was far more deadly. Maul’s internal organs could have been missed and left intact, his whole upper body completely undamaged, and his leg/pelvis injury cauterized. Plus some people (without the help of the Dark Side, by the way) have been known to survive things like skydiving, without parachutes. There are also plane crash survivors. So Maul’s got a very tiny chance of living.

            Anakin’s entire body, on the other hand, in and out, up and down, would be ash in seconds. It’d take far less than a minute, and he took several minutes to get out of there. In reality, that fire would not have stopped as soon as it did. He’d never have made it. Maul at least had a long fall, where anything could hace happened in between the ledge and the bottom. He may have been caught, could have landed in feathers, could have slowed his own fall via the Force, etc. Anakin had no such variability to aid his chances. He’s simply lucky that in Star Wars, things like lakes of lava, and the air surrounding them, really aren’t any hotter than Tatooine’s Twin Suns. After all, Obi-Wan suffered no burns, even though he’d be dead as well, from exposure and proximity. Air would have killed his lungs too, as close to that lake as he was.

            Anyway, suffice it to say, assuming that we applied real physics to both situations, Maul’s fall already being physically true, Anakin’s experience would not be as survivable as depicted on film. The film would have received a very hard R if they went for realism. Instead, they compromised, as they should have. But real physics would not have changed what we saw of Maul on-screen. It wohld, however, have changed what we saw of Anakin on-screen.

          • September 8, 2016 at 9:49 pm

            I never said Anakin’s survival was realistic, although applying real physics to Star Wars is stupid and completely unnecesary. The first second of the original SW already broke the laws of physics by having sound in space…

            Also, Anakin wasnt burning for minutes. I just checked it for you and it was exactly 30 seconds. Many people survived insane burn damage in the past, just check Niki Lauda for instance. He was burning for more than a minute in 800 degrees celsius and still alive today, despite suffering critical lung damage. And he wasnt taken into a futuristic technological wonderland hospital either, nor was he the ,,chosen one of the force”.
            Although again, im not saying Anakin’s survival was realistic. It was artistic exaggeration I guess, but considering he was one of the strongest force users in canonic history and got immiate help, its acceptable in the
            realms of fiction.

            Maul however is dead and nothing can or should change that. The recorded plane crash and fall survivors were always in special condtiions (something always slowed down the fall).
            Noone who has fallen 50 meters (or even 100, who really knows how deep that tube was…) onto concrete has ever survived. Especially not after getting cut in half AND hitting the head to a concrete-ish tube!

            Btw… Feathers? Why in world would there be feathers in whatever that tube was used for? Really, feathers… Thats just way too desperate.

          • September 8, 2016 at 11:35 pm

            It’s good to see someone thinks.

          • September 9, 2016 at 12:56 am

            Re: “Maul was obviously dead. Well, let’s be honest, so was Anakin Skywalker”
            Not comparable at all.
            We also obviously saw Anakin rescued before he died.
            Maul was DEAD by any stretch of anyone’s imagination.

            Ok….thought experiment, imagine polling audience members are ea film, asking:
            TPM – Q: “Are you looking forward to seeing Maul in upcoming movies?!” A: “wtf, he just died?! Dude was cut in half & dropped down giant chasm!”
            RotS: Q: “Wow, shocking Anakin’s dead, eh? Too bad no more of him?” A: “Are you high? Emperor just barely saved him & had to cyborg-re-built him. He’s gonna be more badda$$ than ev’a!”

        • September 9, 2016 at 12:51 am

          Re: “If Maul lives than bring back Han maybe?”

          Don’t give them any ideas.
          After all, just like Maul – we didn’t SEE Han die/dead. He just fell with a wound, ostensibly less wounded than Maul, no less.

          • September 9, 2016 at 1:26 am

            Was JUST about to say that, but about Palpatine and Vader. There’s ALREADY been too much rumbling about such moves. Or, wait, no, that was my tummy.

  • September 8, 2016 at 12:19 am

    If it does go ahead I hope they give him a few more lines than last time.

  • September 8, 2016 at 12:43 am

    Maul was a great character. Killing him off so early – a huge mistake. But bringing him back is an awful idea. The only way to feature him at all might be as part of obi wan’s spiritual passage to learning how to force ghost.

    As much as I like the Obi Wan character I think there is not a big story to tell here. The prequels -though disatisfactory – had their chance to tell this back story and in my mind concluded it with his exile.

    In the case of Han there is a story to tell about how he came to be where he is in A New Hope.

    • September 8, 2016 at 12:50 am

      “But bringing him back is an awful idea.” Huh, you speak as if it hasn’t been done yet.

      • September 8, 2016 at 1:48 am

        To the regular movie going public he is long gone. You can get away with this kind of thing when you make fan centric animation.

        • September 8, 2016 at 4:16 am

          The fan centric animation is canon. Lucas brought him back even before the Mouse came along.

          Regular movie goer ignorance or not, Maul being alive is fact since it hit the Clone Wars years ago.

          • September 8, 2016 at 11:29 am

            I think what he meant to say is that only the hardcore Star Wars fans are watching the animation shows and that there is a ton of fan service being done in those shows. He’s not wrong. Canon or not, you can’t have the main storyline of a major film be one of which the audience needs to do homework on before going into the movie to understand. Although the Star Wars universe has this rich backstory, the films are really a self contained universe. How the hell are you going to tell someone who has only seen the movies (general movie going audiences who make up a lot of the revenue for these films) that a character they saw get cut in half fall down a shaft, but never heard from again in the other prequel films come back to life all of a sudden (and that he had all these adventure trying to kill Obi Wan) it’s going to confuse the audience. As a huge SW fan it’s cool to see Maul back and Witwer voicing him but aside from animation/comics I don’t think we will be seeing Maul ever again.

          • September 9, 2016 at 4:55 am

            I would tell them to watch the episode of Clone Wars in which Maul’s return occurs.

            It would in fact explain everything in about 20 minutes.

          • September 9, 2016 at 5:15 am

            The only homework you should have to do to understand a Star Wars movie is see the other ones. The lesser media should be there to enhance it for hardcore fans but not be required reading.

          • September 10, 2016 at 5:04 am

            Dude. It’s not home work. It’s the story of the franchise. The end.

          • September 10, 2016 at 4:05 pm

            Dude. Star Wars is for EVERYONE. Not just the hardcore fans that absorb everything. The end.

          • September 11, 2016 at 2:44 pm

            And Maul’s story is encapsulated in a handful of twenty minute episodes someone can watch on Netflix. Right now.

            It’s not in a limited run comic book from ten years ago. It’s not in a 400 page novel. It’s not in a Wii U exclusive video game.

            It is presented in the same media format the movies are. Video.

            Anyone can watch it with ease. It’s not work. It’s not unfair. It’s canon and it’s available for EVERYONE.

            You can cut the working class socialist fandom thing out. It’s an incredibly silly argument.

          • September 11, 2016 at 4:33 pm

            “But how could they be jamming us if they don’t know… that we’re coming?”

            So how is the audience supposed to know what they need to see in a movie before they go see it? So you’ll have to have seen everything and read everything (There’s a comic book series by dark horse a few years ago that’s still canon) to understand what’s happening on the film. You’re argument that just because it’s available that people NEED and SHOULD consume it is silly. So my dad who introduced me to Star Wars as a kid, for him to understand the potential Obi Wan movie needs to watch a cartoon series from a decade ago? Get real. Lol Again Star Wars is for EVERYONE, I don’t get what you don’t understand about that. You may be naive enough to believe that what’s happening on a kids cartoon on Disney XD will have some meaningful impact on a billion dollar film but I sir live in the real world. All that extra material is for the hardcore fans to get the rich backstory and enhance he story for them, it’s “canon” sure but unless Ezra is Snoke (Spoilers: NOPE) it’s all side material to main movies. The only required homework you need to do to understand the Star Wars films is the other ones. Period. The end.

          • September 11, 2016 at 9:01 pm

            Nope. The Dark Horse comic is not canon.

            You need to stop associating viewing content as work. It isn’t.

            But how will the audience know what they need to know if Maul appears in a movie again?

            Maul won’t be in a new movie. He’s been relegated to having his story finished in Rebels. But if he did? It’s called a flash back. Just like when we see a young Bruce Wayne in a movie after his current self is already Batman we would most likely see Maul’s survival and its aftermath in a montage of clips.

            It isn’t rocket science. Or hard work.

            It’s canon. Doesn’t matter if it has an impact on a theatrical movie or not. The stories are all linked. Darth Maul survives Episode I. That’s reality no matter how you want to shake it.

            We’ve already seen tie ins from the animated shows to the films. Disney will weave their properties together in a way to connect them and in an effort to foster interest simultaneously in movies, shows, comics, and games.

            That’s reality. But you’re welcome to keep writing blocks of text to shoulder that big opinion and carry it around like some sort of trophy you think other people care to see.

            P.S. Never said anyone needs to see anything. Simply stated its canon. Viewed or not it is now apart of the Star Wars story and exists intertwined or parallel to the events of the film.

            And yes. I’d watch the Darth Maul episodes with your father because they’re extremely bad ass and fun.

          • September 11, 2016 at 10:03 pm

            It is canon. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Darth_Maul%E2%80%94Son_of_Dathomir

            It is work to do though. You may not see it as work but general viewing audiences do. If you have to watch or read something aside from the movies then yes its additional things you need to do to understand a movie. How muddled would the story be if you had to flash back and show Kenobi and go through that they had this detailed backstory? I never tried to say that it wasn’t a valid piece of Star Wars, the Clone Wars are amazing and most of Rebels is as well. It’s all canon, 100% I never disputed that. But there are still differe t levels of story telling. Take Agents of SHIELD for example or the Netflix shows. It’s apart of the Marvel universe and 100% canon but the movies do not acknowledge the TV shows what so ever. It only enhances the your movie experience. It’s the same thing with Star Wars.

        • September 8, 2016 at 9:05 pm

          Yeah but the big reveal of him being alive still in the movies play’s off Obi-wan discovering this fact as well.

        • September 9, 2016 at 2:12 am

          Not to span with my hastily arranged “photoshop”, but thought you might appreciate this. 😉

          We keep bringing Maul back…ea time Obi-Wan hacks another more.
          Until… at last, Maul admits – “it’s a draw!”.

    • September 8, 2016 at 1:25 am

      Wait? You do know Maul never really died right? He came back a long time ago.

    • September 8, 2016 at 4:19 am

      Star Wars isn’t just the saga movies, i see you are speaking not as a fan, but as an spectator of the movies, and thats perfectly good, but if you like Star Wars you have to know that story doesn’t stop with the movies, there are a lot stuff moving in the background. It may be much more than well received if Maul come back, now in a movie, it is proved now.

      • September 8, 2016 at 11:04 pm

        There are different types of fan. I never bought into the expanded universe outside the movies despite 36 years of loving the movies. Exceptionally I would say some items that are intended to directly setup the movies are worthwhile. The resurection of Maul is just fan boy fodder. As a fan I would say do not recognise such junk.

        • September 9, 2016 at 1:41 am

          amen brother

        • September 9, 2016 at 3:25 am

          Yes, totaly agree when you say there are different types of fan, but I would say you fail as one when you say you “do not recognise such junk.” because it is Star Wars like it or not, it not depends on you, or me, to define what is Star Wars and what is not, or if Maul is alive or not. I dont think denial of facts fits in a fan profile.

          I love the story told in the 6 movies, And all surrounding that story, I have my thoughts with some things, like every one, but I like what is Star Wars now, I liked the story when there were only 3 movies, but i like Star Wars much more today, as it is now.

          And back to the Maul talk, I don’t see the real point that makes you against it, I think that If Maul really fits in the story, he’s very wellcome, if not, its the same for me, it all depends on the story they want to tell, that is really the important thing.

          Clearly we are different kinds of fan, you and me, I don’t say better or worst just different, in opinion, and point of view.

      • September 9, 2016 at 12:49 am

        Re: “i see you are speaking not as a fan”
        Well that’s rather uncalled for – presumptuous & condescending.

        • September 9, 2016 at 3:36 am

          Yes, fair enough…

          • September 9, 2016 at 3:49 am

            I just fig’r. I normally take people “at their word”, at least until proven to be false.

            Also, if someone cares enough to come into starwarsnewsnet, read an article & post about it, stating they’re a fan – they’re probably a fan. hehe 😉

            I do get your point about those who go further & embrace “beyond movies”. However, I think that the lines become *blurry* to say “real fan”, “hardcore fan”, etc …as at a certain point there are things certain “true fans” (again- fairly undefinable) will disagree.
            Some may love books/comics but not be into the likes of the animated series.

            No to belabour further, but … like the Maul topic.
            If a *fan* disagrees with the decision to bring him back, it’s not really fair to say (not claiming you are, but others):
            “Well, suck it up & like it – it’s canon!”.

            I consider myself a major SW fan. Old timer, going back to original movies, watching ANH & Empire over 100times in theatre (not joking), toy collector, read many books, as kid made stop-motion SW animated films. Have about every version of SW movies release from tape to laserdisc(yes! Japanese import of TPM because if came out before N.Amer), dvd, bluray & am waiting for 4K UHD to have a big showing of all films.
            However, these’s decent chunks of the canon that I feel kind’a – “meh, did we need that explained?” & such.
            And…yes, I’ll admit, I’m not fond of Maul being brought back after obviously killed in movie – but I’d defend either side of that topic as being from a fan.

            Yet I know that I’m a huge SW nerd+fan.

            Any’who… just more info from my position on it.

            I’m happy we have these forums & sites for “all kinds of fans” to come together, discuss, agree/disagree. 😉

          • September 9, 2016 at 5:51 am

            I really enjoy this and apreciate the time people invest here, reading and responding comments, the interaction is really fun, is good to see how much people use this share their pasion for SW.

            I agree with you about the blurry line between types of fans, what bothers me sometimes is the hate, fans can like or dislike different things, but consciously denying facts, or not accepting there are more that just 3 films, it seems to me too silly and childish, and even more if they proclame themself true fans, I just think true fans don’t spit hate, thats all. Star Wars is a positive thing, …well the war thing is debatable, hehe.

            About the Maul topic, I don’t disaprove a person who disagree Maul comming back, it is the denial, whats the point of that? ok, its their opinion, but, it ts a fact, they can’t change it, hehe.

            As I commented before, I’m in favor of the story, I love star wars stories ( with all in it ), if the story needs Maul, he is very wellcome, if the story doesn’t need him, that is totally fine, I don’t see a problem either way, the story they want to tell is what really matters…

            The thing I really want to see, is an Obi-wan movie 🙂

            Is really good to cross path with you DougP, thank for sharing your thoughts, and man! 100 times in theater?! I envy you haha, I want to believe I’m a huge SW nerd+fan too, but I can’t get any closer to that number.

          • September 9, 2016 at 8:04 pm

            Re: “I really like and apreciate the time people invest here, reading and
            commenting, the interaction is really fun, is good to see how much
            people use this share their pasion for SW.”

            I hear you – agree completely!
            This site was my “group therapy” going through the anxiety waiting for TFA. And SW return to screen.

            Kenobi / Maul

            I REALLY want a Kenobi movie. Wish that was announced instead of Han Solo.
            Not sure anyone can fill Ford’s shoes….and just love Kenobi. And further, loved Ewan’s portrayal in PT.
            Having Ewan around, willing & PERFECT for the role, it wouldn’t be as weird/jarring as seeing someone else try to plan Han.
            Also, I think there’s phenomenal potential with Kenobi on Tatooine (obviously some “off planet”, grudgingly leaving area where he feels he can protect young Luke) – such as the Clint Eastwood bada$$ from the old westerns, the “reluctant” warrior who’s capabilities/”talents” come out after he’s pushed too far (/rescue/save some group). He could “save” Luke from a distance. Also have Luke “meet” him, where his uncle takes him away.
            I also thought the PT novelization of Kenobi was great. Loved how he just “gave himself to the Force”, including just accepting of possible death. Moreso than perhaps any Jedi inbooks? That could play out well …perhaps twist being he “saves” himself solely for purpose of getting to Luke/knowing that duty is so important.

            I dunno….just too easy to imagine great stories with Kenobi. [ excuse the ramble ]
            If we had to have Maul brought back into movies to get that film done, I’d be down with that. 😉

            Re: 100 times theater
            Yeah… it was definitely OCD as a kid. My friends & I would have my mom take us to the “mall” where theater was, ostensibly 1 or 2 movies for the day & then arcade/shopping/eating/etc…we’d just start in morning & watch back-to-back (sneaking/staying in theater after 1st showing). hehe Turned into competition between couple fellow nerds.

            We practically *lived* at the theater for ANH & Empire. They brought ANH back into theater just before Empire, after it had already ran for about a year! (would never happen nowadays w/short runs-get next movie out).

            RofJ, not as many times (don’t recall, but perhaps a couple dozen?).

          • September 12, 2016 at 10:42 pm

            Hopefully next year we can have news about an Obi-wan movie, I think LF wants Ewan to get a little older haha, I dont know. And yes the novel is great, I liked it a lot, Did you see the “The last days in the desert” trailer? I was thinking in just one thing when I saw it, ha ha.

            There are infinite posibilities for the stories the movie (s) can tell, that western touch, and how they can go far exploring the force, I think this is the movie where they can go beyond with the force, than any other movie yet, even more than a Yoda origins movie because the fact that they knew about manifestations through the force (force spirits), in the late/post clone war era, the simple idea is fascinating I think.

            About the Solo movie, i didn’t like the choice when they anounced the actor, but now I think he is the best actor they could cast, I’m positive he can do a good job, I think he can be very close to what a younger version of Han could be, that eventually will become the han we know, but we still have to wait to see it. I liked Anthony Ingruber too because of the physical resemblance with Ford, but I trust they did the best decision.

            You were very lucky to have the chance to practically “live” in he theater, that must be a really good experiece for anyone who likes movies, and even more if you have Star Wars in it :).

            I don’t know which movie I’ve seen more times maybe ANH, can’t really tell, ROTS is the movie is the movie I think I have seen less, but isn’t because i din’t like it, i liked it a lot, but because the O66 jedi killing part, hehe, for me that part it’s hard to see, love everthing else of that movie, I think the opening is one of the best parts :), maybe the best opening of all, competing with ANH of course.

          • September 13, 2016 at 12:08 am

            Hope you’re right that they fig’r waiting on Obi-Wan is fine, coz Ewan just keeps growing into it.
            Also, imagine after TFA they thought doing a solo (hehe) Han movie was a good idea for fans missing him – lessen the grief for *old* fans & new+young actor to appeal to new fans.

            Also agree there’s infinite possibilities w/Obi (=Ewan) stories.
            If Rogue One is a SW *departure* as a “war movie”, they could (& should, imho) go after a “western vibe”. SW has been such a mix from the beginning, from ancient fantasy to sci-fi to western influences. I’d love a gritty reluctant “ex gunfighter” scenario w/Obi-Wan. But…yeah, so many possibilities with his character & with his aging from prequels, even further his development/story-arc to the Ben we have in ANH.

            Solo flick –
            Saw the actor in Hail Ceasar & thought he was really good. So it seems they chose solid talent.
            It’s just VERY difficult to imagine anyone fill Ford’s shoes. Fingers crossed.

            O66 – yeah, really depressing. I mean, going in we KNEW that the storyline was taking us to a very dark place. Just having to watch it after 2 movies with so many cool & varied Jedi, was tough.
            Also agree ROTS opening scene was epic & so imaginative & creative (like much of the prequels – ground-breaking, so much we hadn’t seen before, since replicated/duplicated). Remember being wowed by that like ANH’s opening, sheesh…now going on 40 years ago.

            Excited & optimistic for SW future (animated, books, movies, etc)!

  • September 8, 2016 at 1:46 am

    I hope they will make the 3rd spin-off involving Maul and Kenobi. They should follow the storytelling of the novel “Maul the Hunter”

  • September 8, 2016 at 2:04 am

    I’m not sure how this would work, because Maul has already shown himself to be pretty bad ass on Rebels, and if this next season is only 2 years before ANH, where Obi-Wan’s powers are weak, then how is Alec Guinness supposed to defeat Old Maul?

  • September 8, 2016 at 3:03 am


    • September 8, 2016 at 6:57 am

      *Obi-wan, a star wars story. 😉

      • September 8, 2016 at 10:45 pm

        I think “Kenobi” would be a better title but I’ll take either. I don’t think “Ben” would do it, though. 😉

      • September 8, 2016 at 10:46 pm

        I think “Kenobi” would be a better title but I’ll take either 🙂

        • September 9, 2016 at 12:03 am

          Exile: the Ben Kenobi story?

          • September 9, 2016 at 3:01 am

            A hard-hitting documentary coming to Lifetime this Fall.

          • September 9, 2016 at 3:33 am

            Out beyond the dune sea lives a mysterious person most locals dismiss as a wizard or a crazy old man. But what if I told you this old hermit known only as Ben was once a war hero… and a Jedi. That’s next on Exile: the Ben Kenobi story.

    • September 9, 2016 at 1:39 am

      but without Maul. He´s dead.

  • September 8, 2016 at 3:14 am

    The next best thing to me for bringing maul vs obi-wan to the big screen would be to make a short arc about it in rebels. Either way, we need a canon face off between these two, it’s just begging to happen.

  • September 8, 2016 at 12:36 pm

    A little bit tired ressurecting Maul in every format and show.
    I would love to see Obi Wan stories with Ewan but Maul for me has poor stories to tell.
    They killed him so quickly avoiding the possibility to give a big story to the character.
    Even i can’t see cool stories during his training with Sidious.

  • September 8, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    They should have left him dead.

    • September 9, 2016 at 2:10 am

      yes, can´t fix a mistake with another mistake

  • September 8, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    This is the anthology film we’re looking for!

  • September 8, 2016 at 10:50 pm

    Re: Comments on how ridiculous it is that Maul survived his fall, well, we don’t know how deep that pit was or what was down there. Luke, however, fell arguably a totally ridiculously unsurvivable distance and survived, despite not being fully trained – Maul, on the flip side was fully trained by the freakin Emperor. He lived. It’s canon. It’s awesome and who cares how realistic it is – it’s Star Wars. I’m stoked on it and you’re missing out if you’re complaining about something otherwise inarguably rad, which is more Maul.

  • September 8, 2016 at 10:52 pm

    Re: Comments on how ridiculous it is that Maul survived his fall, well, we don’t know how deep that pit was or what was down there. Luke, however, fell arguably a totally stupid unsurvivable distance in Cloud City and survived, despite not being fully trained – Maul, on the flip side, was fully trained by the freakin Emperor and was the predecessor to goddam Vader. Maul lived. It’s canon. It’s awesome and who cares how realistic it is – it’s Star Wars. IMO you’re missing out if you’re complaining about something otherwise inarguably rad, which is more Maul. Suck it up and enjoy yourself.

  • September 8, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    Re: Comments on how ridiculous it is that Maul survived his fall…we don’t know how deep that pit was or what was down there. Luke, however, fell an insanely unsurvivable distance in Cloud City and survived w/the Force, despite not being fully trained. On the flip side, Maul was fully trained by the freakin Emperor as his right-hand main dude. Maul lived. It’s canon. It’s awesome and who cares how realistic it is – it’s Star Wars. Suck it up and enjoy yourselves! ;D

    • September 8, 2016 at 11:30 pm

      You have a point here. And i would add people are far less critizing when it comes to Originals than Prequels

    • September 9, 2016 at 1:20 am

      Little known fact – in the new continuity, that was actually the shaft where the Naboo disposed of their pillows that were just TOO darn fluffy.

      • September 9, 2016 at 1:28 am

        It’s true what they say, sometimes if a pillows not juuuust right you just gotta chuck ’em into a pit of darkness, in service of the Dark Side.

      • September 9, 2016 at 1:28 am

        It’s true what they say, sometimes if a pillow’s not juuuust right you gotta chuck it into a pit of darkness, in service of the Dark Side.

      • September 9, 2016 at 1:29 am

        It’s true what they say, sometimes if a pillow’s not juuuust right you gotta chuck it into a pit of darkness, in service of the Dark Side. Damn you to hell, pillow!

        • September 9, 2016 at 1:31 am

          Awww, dammit, mods removed your dupe posts.

          • September 9, 2016 at 5:15 pm

            I removed them so they wouldn’t have to. The mods mustn’t be mired in trifles.

  • September 9, 2016 at 12:49 am

    That Duel with Maul, Obi and Qui Jon was the best thing in the entire prequel trilogy. More Maul please guys. Ray Park was awesome and still looks fit as hell.

  • September 9, 2016 at 1:02 am

    Great idea – how they should handle this

    Each time Obi-Wan confronts Maul, he chops off more parts…obviously leaving him for dead…and Maul pops up again as “more robot” ea time.

    It would be like the scene from Monty Python’s Holy Grail.
    By the last episode he’ll be a “floating head” / head attached to robot/different body (like Mars Attacks!).

    We can keep getting more & more confrontations, cooler & cooler robo-Maul, & some laughs when Obi says “you’re beaten! (high ground!)” & Maul replies “tis but a flesh wound!”


    • September 9, 2016 at 1:29 am

      Here we go, Maul’s dialogue will be:
      “Alright, we’ll call it a DRAW!”.

      • September 9, 2016 at 1:48 am

        Obi-Wan lets him live …

        FINALLY…. after their *LAST* confrontation.
        It’s bittersweet… Maul is left with only his “head”, BUT … he finds TRUE LOVE & turns from the Dark Side.


        • September 9, 2016 at 1:49 am

          Closing credits…. the KISS – [bam!] not a dry eye in the house!
          Seriously, these Maul writers should hire me.
          [ placeholder photo ]

    • September 9, 2016 at 1:30 am

      Potential? Hell, it was already DONE in the first Jedi Knight game.

      • September 9, 2016 at 1:31 am

        I loved using the unlock code for dismemberment in those 1st games you could wield a saber. Going around hacking off limbs.

        • September 9, 2016 at 1:40 am

          But I’m talking OOOOOOOOOLD skool JK1 and Maw, the orange Sith dude who was confined to a flying dinner plate because so many parts of him had been chopped off.

          • September 9, 2016 at 2:17 am

            hehe…yeah, exactly. Didn’t remember that character. Been long time.

            Was it only JK II where you could turn on *dismemberment*? Man, I loved that! 1st thing I thought was – THIS is what it would be like to fight with a lightsaber. All the BS, kiddie-rated stuff with flashing lights & sparks ea time you slash/kill someone just minimizes what a lightsaber is meant to be.

  • September 9, 2016 at 1:16 am

    Hoping for a 2 hour lightsaber fight. Please Disney, make it happen.

  • September 9, 2016 at 12:42 pm

    Not to sure about that duel, although it would benefit the fact that he was so weary in the ep4. On the other hand, I’d much prefer that Vader takes Maul out, like in this comic:

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