UPDATE 2! Star Wars: Episode VIII Release Date Pushed Back to December 15, 2017! Avatar 2 Delayed More.

Rian JohnsonAfter the rumors about script rewrites and the delay of the start of filming for Episode VIII, comes a somewhat expected news that the movie has been pushed back for a December release.

 

The news was first reported by The Hollywood Reporter’s Borys Kit:

 

 

You probably remember that the initial plan was Episode VIII to be released in December as The Force Awakens. Later the studio decided to move the date to May, a month which has a special meaning to all Star Wars fans. Pushing back the movie to December again is not bad news at all. They did the same with TFA and it worked really well. And we’ve seen that the Christmas Holiday box office could be very tempting. It’s always better to delay a movie instead of rushing it.              

 

 

UPDATE!        

 

Some more interesting comments by Borys Kit, supporting the report from a few days ago that they do rewrites wanting to focus more on the already known characters from TFA (Poe, Finn and Rey):        

 

 

 

And here’s the official press release from StarWars.com:

Today, Disney and Lucasfilm announced that Star Wars: Episode VIII, originally scheduled for release in summer 2017, will now debut on December 15, 2017.

The move follows the extraordinary success of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, which was the first Star Wars movie to premiere outside the traditional summer blockbuster window and smashed numerous records, including biggest domestic and global debuts of all time as well as the biggest domestic second and third weekends, en route to becoming the highest grossing domestic release of all time with over $861.3 million and the third biggest global release ever with $1,886.7 billion.

Written and directed by Rian Johnson, Star Wars: Episode VIII is currently in preproduction and will begin principal photography in London next month. Kathleen Kennedy and Ram Bergman will produce and J.J. Abrams, Jason McGatlin, and Tom Karnowski will executive produce. Stay tuned for exciting updates in the coming weeks.

 

UPDATE 2!

 

Many people were concerned that moving Episode VIII to December 2017 would put the movie in direct contention with the long-anticipated sequel to the highest grossing movie of all time – Avatar. The initial plan was Avatar 2 to be released on Christmas 2016. Later the project was moved back one year, and now new information has been revealed that Avatar 2 will not be ready for December 2017. From The Wrap:

“Avatar 2,” the first of three sequels to director James Cameron‘s 2009 3D sci-fi blockbuster, will not be ready in time for its planned Christmas 2017 release via Twentieth Century Fox.

The studio on Thursday declined comment on the delay, which individuals with knowledge of the situation confirmed. There is no new release date set for the movie, or word on the two other sequels, which Fox had planned to release in the same holiday corridor in 2018 and 2019.

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It’s telling that the studio has never penciled in an official release date for “Avatar 2.” But as recently as last month, Cameron said a 2017 release was on track, and Fox chairman-CEO Jim Gianopulos said the same last summer after visiting the director in his offices in New Zealand.

Another tipoff that the plan to release “Avatar” at Christmas 2017 was in jeopardy came Wednesday, when Disney shifted “Star Wars: Episode VIII” to Dec. 15, 2017. It’s hard to imagine Disney CEO Robert Iger and “Star Wars” producers Kathleen Kennedy would shift their movie to that date, and re-calibrate the massive Disney marketing machine, unless they were virtually certain they’d have the season — and the pick of IMAX screens — to themselves.

As you can see there are no coincidences here. I am pretty sure Disney knew exactly what they were doing by moving the movie on Avatar’s spot. This is definitely the right thing to do. Having a new Star Wars movie just 5 months after the previous one was a bit too much, especially for the general audience, who could very easily be confused. We have to accept that from now on Christmas will be the Star Wars season. It feels home already.

 

And it appears Rian Johnson is fine with this as well:

 

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436 thoughts on “UPDATE 2! Star Wars: Episode VIII Release Date Pushed Back to December 15, 2017! Avatar 2 Delayed More.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:01 pm
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    I figured that this would be the case, given that POTC would be finished at this point and sitting on the shelf for months and otherwise given a 2018 release.

    Still, I’m a bit bummed that we’re gonna have to wait even longer to see Luke in action again.

    – Pomojema

    • January 20, 2016 at 10:03 pm
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      POTC?

      • January 20, 2016 at 10:11 pm
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        pirates of the carribean 5

    • January 20, 2016 at 10:51 pm
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      Right. Who the hell knows if Luke will even be highly featured in this one. They just succeeded by totally cutting him out. Disney could very well have surmised the big three are not important to people as they thought.

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:18 am
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        Considering that they’re not our main protagonists anymore, they’re NOT as big as Disney thought they were. I want Poe, Finn, and Rey. the Big Three already has a whole trilogy to themselves.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:01 pm
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    FINE!! MAKE ME WAIT!!
    Well, okay.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:01 pm
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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:03 pm
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    No surprise. And as much as I’d like to only have a year and a half until Episode 8 instead of 2 years, it’s totally worth it to have a better movie. I have total faith in Rian and any choices he makes, so I’m just fine. My only real regret is that we’ll miss the 40th anniversary of A New Hope.

    • January 20, 2016 at 10:20 pm
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      I am betting there will be a big trailer for May 2017

    • January 21, 2016 at 2:16 am
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      Maybe Disney will honor the 40th anniversary with a release of ANH on the big screen. Han shoots that rotten Greedo dead before he even gets a finger on the trigger, no goofy and forced CGI crap in Mos Eisley, and no Praxis effect with the Death Star explosion. In other words, the original theatrical release. FOX and Disney have probably already been in talks since we know there was a 2K restoration of the original film sources last year.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:04 pm
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    Pretty OBVIOUS they diden’t have to do it, but i’m sure Disney was like december was so great for 7 lets do the same time for 8 and 9 ……..

    • January 20, 2016 at 10:17 pm
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      Didn’t you hear about the script rewrite? Or how filming was delayed for a MONTH? I think a December release is warranted.

      • January 20, 2016 at 10:48 pm
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        You delay filming a month, and the. Delay the movie 5. Doesn’t make sense. Disney clearly didn’t like something about the current project. I suspect, like I’ve said before, they felt they should play it safe again.

        I see no reason not to see this as a move to push the movie into safe territory.

        • January 21, 2016 at 12:16 am
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          Because there’s not any proof that that’s happening. You need to stop pushing your pointless speculation as fact.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:05 pm
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    I understand, I really do, but still… whyyyyyy? *sniff, sniff*

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:06 pm
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    The wait is going to be the death of me -_-

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:07 pm
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    I can live with this, but I was really looking forward to Star Wars movies coming out in May again. That’s when they feel just right.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:09 pm
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    Hopefully they took some of the constructive feedback that a few moments of pause wouldn’t hurt. Let these awesome characters breathe a little.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:09 pm
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    I swear to god if they make it so it’s “funnier” like Episode 7 I’m gonna be upset. I want a dark episode 8! Enough with the one marvel one liners , jeeze! Not that it hurt episode 7 but some of them were too much. It always makes me nervous when scripts get re writes cause yoy don’t know if it’s Disney making him change it so it’s like Episode 7 or if it’s because Rian actually wants to change a few things because he WANTS to. I hope it’s it’s own thing.

    • January 20, 2016 at 10:10 pm
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      I thought the comedy was great. Keep it coming.

      • January 20, 2016 at 10:12 pm
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        I loved every single joke except when Finn was asking Han about his facial gestures. It’s the only one that felt a little forced to me. Ugh no pun intended lol.

        • January 20, 2016 at 10:13 pm
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          And the “I’m in charge now Phasma” part

          • January 20, 2016 at 10:19 pm
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            Han told him to calm down in that scene too.

          • January 20, 2016 at 10:36 pm
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            That was funny as fuck, and a nice touch I thought considering they had a history. Anyone who’s had a ballbuster for a boss can relate

          • January 20, 2016 at 11:05 pm
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            Just seemed like one of my friends from school joking around, was out of place.

      • January 20, 2016 at 10:12 pm
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        Sure, alot of it was good. But it just kept going and going. Just be modest with it is all I’m saying. Some of Finns lines were cringe worthy.

        • January 20, 2016 at 10:19 pm
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          Somebody would always say that.

        • January 20, 2016 at 11:04 pm
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          Phasma+Finn scene was the culprit for me.

      • January 20, 2016 at 10:50 pm
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        Me too.. the film was the perfect balance of funny and serious. Also, Oscar, Daisy and John had great comic timing – Jar Jar they are not.

    • January 20, 2016 at 10:18 pm
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      I think it is. Reportedly, the sizes of Finn, Poe, and Rey’s characters are being increased, and that sounds (to me) like something Rian would want to do.

      • January 20, 2016 at 10:20 pm
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        I sure hope so. If it’s Luke Rey, Finn, Poe and Chewie in the spotlight, I’m down. And Kylo of course.

      • January 20, 2016 at 10:45 pm
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        It’s a move to scrap even more of the big three in favor of the new big three. Since they found success ignoring Luke (besides the fact they are looking for him),killed Han, and had the princess scaled back, no reason for them to change that. Disney has decided the money is in the future.

        • January 20, 2016 at 11:26 pm
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          I don’t get you… you are actually saying that disney potentially focusing on new, less well known characters is them seeking the money…. WISEN UP. If they just wanted money we wouldn’t even have new characters, just the geriatric tales. What are you fucking smoking mate?

          • January 21, 2016 at 5:14 am
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            That dude is angry to be angry. Let it go David.

    • January 20, 2016 at 10:18 pm
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      Or I guess keep comedy out of parts where’s there suppose to be tension. Like when Kylo Ren first meets Poe, they just throw a joke in there making it seem like Kylo isn’t actually a threat and doesn’t need to be taken seriously.

      • January 20, 2016 at 10:20 pm
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        I disagree. That funny line to Kylo Ren was a defining moment of what Poe is as a character. He’s the classic “hero’s hero”. At that moment the movie won me. All shields down.

      • January 20, 2016 at 10:50 pm
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        IMO, Poe must’ve known that he was in deep shit. He was just trying to be brash and to show Kylo what he told him later: the Resistance wouldn’t be intimidated by him. At least that’s what I got from this scene.

    • January 20, 2016 at 10:18 pm
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      ESB had it’s funny moments. Don’t worry about it.

    • January 20, 2016 at 10:21 pm
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      Episode 5, considered to be one of the darkest Star Wars films, was also one of the funniest.

      • January 20, 2016 at 10:21 pm
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        Yeah. Episode V has a very dark ending, but the journey there is light and funny (exactly how it’s supposed to be).

      • January 20, 2016 at 10:26 pm
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        Yeah but it blended well. I guess I just got Marvel movie vibes from 7. I have faith in Rian so I dk what I’m worryin about.

    • January 20, 2016 at 10:32 pm
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      Comedy is great in Star Wars if it’s done right. (I.e., not jackass aliens stepping in poop)

    • January 20, 2016 at 11:02 pm
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      The Finn Phasma seen made me cringe so hard…but I overlooked it.

    • January 20, 2016 at 11:27 pm
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      Learn to have some sense of humor.

      • January 20, 2016 at 11:51 pm
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        I do. Doesn’t mean I want a cheesy marvel-esque one liner in every scene, especially if it was suppose to be somewhat serious. Alot of the joked were great i.e BB8s thumbs up and everything Chewie did.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:12 pm
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    In the words of Special Edition Darth Vader, “NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:16 pm
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    I’m not surprised in the least. 17-18 months between now and the original release date seemed like an awfully tall order to make a saga episode of Star Wars.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:19 pm
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    Sad we have to wait so long, but I’m guessing they’re going to rewrite Kylo. I didn’t think he was wimpy, but that’s one of the internet’s favorite jokes right now, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re giving him more gravitas and menace.

    Purely speculative, but it’s possible that they saw everyone hoping for Snoke = Plagueis and added that in as well. 😀

    • January 20, 2016 at 10:44 pm
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      So its all about Fan Service now. Re-write for the fans. No Thanx.

      • January 20, 2016 at 11:27 pm
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        Well it’s not like I’m right or anything. It’s just my guess. xD

        And anyways, I typically agree that pandering is bad, but I also think that Kylo needs to stabilize a bit. I love that he’s conflicted, but as JJ said in reference to Kurosawa: The heroes are the ones who are changing, and the villains are locked in on who they are (or words to that effect).

        Point being: Kylo needs to stabilize, or I’m going to start thinking he’s a hero in progress as opposed to a villain, which is something I don’t want because it’s too derivative of Vader’s arc in RotJ. So my HOPE is that one of these rewrites is making Kylo a bit more loyal to the dark side.

        Granted, I don’t have very firm groundwork to base my speculation on, but the fact that TFA was so safe is enough to deem it a possibility, at least. But I AM hoping that Lucasfilm starts taking risks.

    • January 20, 2016 at 10:45 pm
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      Speak for yourself. Plagueis=Snoke is one of the worst ideas I can think of for the character, and I’m certainly not alone in this.

      • January 20, 2016 at 11:18 pm
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        Care to elaborate? I’m not saying your opinion is invalid or anything – I’m just curious of your reasoning. ^^

        • January 21, 2016 at 12:30 am
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          It’s because of many reasons.

          I think Palpatine was making up his story about Plagueis’ alleged power to cheat death, just to tell Anakin what he needed for him to hear: the dark side would grant him with the power to save Padmé’s life. Yet even if Sidious was telling the truth, I could be wrong, but I don’t recall him claiming that Plagueis had the power to bring people back from the grave, just to prevent them from dying.

          But if I’m mistaken and Plagueis could actually come back from the grave, I think someone as methodical as the guy who planned the demise of the Jedi would’ve made absolutely certain that his plan was infallible, before trying to kill his master in his sleep.

          If Plagueis was playing his apprentice, and was actually able to come back to life, this would lower Palpatine’s stature as the entire 6 previous film’s main villain. Also, I don’t see how Plagueis could allow for Palpatine to build an empire and to enjoy the good life, only to come back after that empire was destroyed, the Jedi being rebuilt by Luke, being forced to do all the hard work himself, all over again. This would also make Plagueis look like a weak villain.

          Besides this would demand a lengthy explanation to the audience, because those who are familiar enough with Plagueis to care about Snoke being “The Wise”, would want to know how he was able to come back. And the current characters wouldn’t know or care about this, so it’s not like this explanation would be needed.

          It’s easy for fans to want this or that, but that doesn’t necessarily mean granting their wish is easy for the artist(s) or even a good idea in the overall scheme of things. I may be wrong, and Snoke could turn out to be Plagueis, sure. I just don’t see how this would be better than him being Plagueis’ master, for instance, or some other Sith who really unlocked the secret to cheat death, for that matter. Plus Snoke being a new character wouldn’t demand of so many explanations and such.

          • January 21, 2016 at 1:04 am
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            I wrote this really long, elaborate post on why it could be the best thing since blue milk, and then I reread your last paragraph.

            and now i’m in love with your idea: “I just don’t see how this would be better than him being Plagueis’ master, for instance, or some other Sith who really unlocked the secret to cheat death.”

            Either way I’m happy. I just hope he’s not super contrived, which is why I like the Plagueis idea: They’d be using resources already at their disposal as opposed to creating a character for the sake of the plot.

            And ALSO, the Tarkin novel implies that Plagueis may have achieved “mere immortality”, so take that as you will. ^^

          • January 21, 2016 at 1:35 am
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            I’m just the total opposite, lol. IMO, Snoke=Plaguies would feel lame and contrived, like a cop out as opposed to thinking up a new, interesting villain who could’ve given Palpatine a run for his money back in his day.

            IDK if the Tarkin novel is still canon, but again, I think it would make both, Plagueis and Sidious, look weak if the former was playing his apprentice (only to have Sidious enjoy the fruits of their labor all for himself) and the latter not making sure that he had killed a Sith who, for all intents and purposes, could come back to settle that score at any given time.

            Glad to know you liked my idea. I really hope this is the direction that’s been chosen for Snoke. IMO, that could make him a formidable opponent for Luke and/or Rey, if/when he recovers his full strength: him being a Sith even more powerful and knowledgeable than Plagueis and Palpatine that nobody could see coming.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:23 pm
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    let’s be honest, we all knew this was coming.. may was unrealistic. BUT, on the plus side, comic-con/star wars celebration 2017 will be SO hyped up. maybe even moreso than celebration 2015. here’s to hoping we can all go!!

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:25 pm
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    This makes sense. If there are some re-writes, it gives them more time to perfect the script without rushing things. Also, with Rogue One coming out in December 2016, then Episode 8 just 4 months later… it may have been a bit to much, possibly over saturated the market in sucha short amount of time, killing a lot of the hype and probably confusing casual fans.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:29 pm
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    You know, we had to wait three years in between the films in the original trilogy- I’m not going to complain about two years.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:30 pm
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    If it results in a better movie, I’m all for it.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:31 pm
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    I’m being torn apart.
    but I know its for the best.

    • January 20, 2016 at 10:34 pm
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      you’re tearing me apart, disney! 😉

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:13 am
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        Oh hi Mark.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:32 pm
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    its funny, based on all the recent stories i would have figured rogue one as the one to get pushed back. i guess disney got a little too ambitious with its release dates.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:36 pm
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    Take as much time as you need.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:36 pm
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    Good to hear this. TFA’s a lot fun, but the film could’ve certainly been better if Abrams had been granted his wish for the film to be released in May this year. Besides with Rogue One coming out late this year it makes sense that Disney would want to wait more than 5, 6 months between each film’s release.

    I say let Rian Johnson take his time so he can tell the best story he can tell. 3 SW films (at least) in 3 consecutive years is more than anyone could’ve ever dreamed of not so long ago. That’s exciting enough for me.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:38 pm
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    When are they going to realize that the Month of release means nothing to the box office with a SWs movie. Episode 8 on up will not make the money Episode 7 makes. Just like TPM made the most. Its the 10 plus year gap that causes it. Not whether its May or December.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:39 pm
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    So I guess that great Rian Johnson Episode 8 script is apparently not so great after all. I guess when JJ said “I wish I wrote it,” he meant it literally.

    • January 20, 2016 at 10:46 pm
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      Lol. J.J. Abrams is a terrible writer.

    • January 20, 2016 at 11:16 pm
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      I believe JJ actually said he wished he could direct Episode VIII given how great the script was.

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:01 am
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      If filming starts in a few weeks, why would the script be at fault for the new date?

      The issue is most likely not having enough time in post production, or simply a financial decision based on the recent success of December movies.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:39 pm
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    Exactly, they are scraping the “great script” that we’ve been hearing about to try and mirror the play it safe retread they just offered. I recently read the Times mag article where J.J. Said Disney sat him down and said this movie had to succeed, because of what they paid for it.

    After the success of the episode 7, does anyone truly feel this rewrite is going to be anything but another play it safe retread of Ep. 5. The success of Ep. 7 likely just ruined the entire trilogy.

    They are killing anything to do with Luke. He is strictly now gonna be seen training Rey, that’s it. Everything else that may have been ambitious is gonna be scrapped.

    Of course I don’t know this for sure, but I certainly suspect Disney pulled the plug on anything ambitious.

    • January 20, 2016 at 10:44 pm
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      I think this has more to do with Disney realizing that releasing 2 SW films so close to each other isn’t the best (or wisest) business decision. I also think that Johnson might’ve asked for more time to come up with the best film he can make (like Abrams was said to have done) and that he got his wish. But I do admit that you may have a point. I hope you’re wrong, though.

      • January 20, 2016 at 11:00 pm
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        Yea, I’ve heard this before. The best movie possible.

        In reality, I feel they shouldn’t have an issue with releasing two films 5 months apart. Rogue one isn’t gonna do as well as Ep. 7. Ep. 8 isn’t either. Disney sat J.J. Down and told him Ep. 7 had to succeed. J.J. Was too scared to take risks because of it. He all but said it to the times.

        I have a strong feeling they did the same to Rian, telling him to scrap the ambitious great script in favor of Ep. 7.2. The film breaks all records and all it did was follow the same path as Ep. 4. I understand why Disney wouldn’t want to take risks by doing something new and different.

        I haven’t seen one move Disney has made that is indicating to me they are gonna take any risks with this next film.

        They should of been able to push shooting back a month and still made.

        • January 20, 2016 at 11:06 pm
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          Well, I did say you may have a point. I just prefer to be a little more positive and think that Rian Johnson has more balls than his predecessor, who did ask for more time but was denied by Kathleen Kennedy. I remember to have read about this, right here on SWNN.com, IIRC.

          Also, keep in mind that this is Disney we’re talking about, not HBO, for instance, lol. Since when has the Mouse liked to take risks? They like sure things. Always have, always will. But the fact is that there’s many a SW fan out there who wasn’t so happy with TFA being such a blatant rehash of ANH (myself included).

          Disney got away with it once, but I think twice might be pushing it. Not saying that they’ll do anything bold, risky (let alone shocking) with Ep. VIII, but I really don’t think the film will be a blatant rehash of TESB, at least.

          • January 20, 2016 at 11:29 pm
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            I wasn’t arguing against you, just adding to my original assessment. My tone is probably jaded because I feel jilted by Ep. 7 and this news just means even more time before seeing Luke in action. And Rian will have same issue, Luke is gonna outshine Rey no matter what.

            I actually wasn’t worried about Disney before Ep. 7 because they’ve done well with Marvel, even scrapping it all and starting over.

            I agree, the Ep.7 rehash was just plain silly. I hope they don’t believe that’s why the movie did so well. All it had to be was decent to do well.

            I hope to Yoda they are gonna let this movie stand on its own without the constant rehash. We are stuck with some elements of it, such as the story of Rey, but they really could tell an awesome story.

            If it were me, I’d start the film looking over Luke’s shoulder while he is assembling a saber with the force, then pan over to Rey doing the same thing, but end the sequence with a light hearted comedic moment of acknowledgment that she has done it.

            Then I’d spend a lot of time plugging in the holes left by Ep. 7. While doing a juxtaposition with Kylo Ren being trained. Setting up the eventual showdown between the two sets of masters and apprentices.

            I feel like Rebels has been very ambitious, and don’t see why the movies can’t be.

          • January 20, 2016 at 11:42 pm
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            No harm done, don’t worry. I understand your concerns. In fact, this is exactly how I felt ever since I learned that Disney had purchased SW, and especially after I learned who would be directing the first sequel.

            People may say w/e they wish about Lucas, but at least the guy stayed true to his vision through thick & thin, instead of servicing the fans (true art can only be accomplished when artists aim to please themselves, not anyone else).

            I think Rian Johnson is a far more creative storyteller than Abrams, who is a good director, but no creative mastermind by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe he did push the envelope a little too far (for Disney’s taste, not mine, I must say) and he was told to pull back the reins on his story a little bit.

            Seems like middle ground was reached, ’cause otherwise Johnson could’ve been booted by now, the way Lucas’ ideas and Arndt’s original script for TFA were ditched. This is what gives me hope about Ep. VIII. It’s like the Force is telling me to be confident about this, just as it told me to be wary of TFA for the reasons I stated at the start of this post 😉

    • January 20, 2016 at 10:48 pm
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      Rumor is the re-write is to focus more on the new characters because they’re so popular. In other words, more fan-service, story be damned.

      • January 20, 2016 at 10:54 pm
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        I agree, and by fans they mean those who discovered Starwars in October.

    • January 20, 2016 at 11:01 pm
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      Yup 100% agree. The original script was great allegedly. Like Looper, a (mostly) well thought ambitious movie. Most likely they are ruining it now.

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:03 am
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        Most likely? Do you work for Disney? Have you seen any of the scripts? Where are you basing these opinions on?

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:57 am
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        Allegedly from whom? Seriously. Let’s post some sources for all this allegedness.

        • January 21, 2016 at 10:14 am
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          According to Del Toro, JJ and Daisy Ridley. I know all could be ,,lies” (marketing) but judging from Looper and his other movie Rian was able to write a damn good script. Now they are changing it…

          • January 21, 2016 at 10:45 pm
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            They said why. You’re speculating so much it makes your head spin. Stop.

    • January 20, 2016 at 11:33 pm
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      While I am annoyed as you are about the delay in the film, everything you stated was pure speculation. You have no idea why the film was delayed.

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:11 am
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      But you don’t KNOW that, so you should probably just shut up. That’s just my opinion, though.

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:54 am
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      C’mon Snark. Stop +1ing this guy. Even he’s beneath you.

      You’re being a hypocrite. You don’t like Episode VII. We all know that. You’ve made it clear a dozens of times. Now you’re complaining about the script of the next movie, which you’ve already decided you wouldn’t like because of how much you disliked the last one, was “great” and now “isn’t” because Disney requires the film to make money and obviously the only way to do that is to hand out and average or subpar script.

      It’s going to be a long two years.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:48 pm
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    Star Wars 8 vs Avatar 2……..do you think Cameron will push back the release date of Avatar 2 ?

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:10 am
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      Oh, definitely.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:49 pm
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    hell, I’m afraid that there won’t be the same interest. for the film. all the avatar fans (or fans because other people told them to be) will rather go watch avatar 2

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:50 pm
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    Rey and Finn were the stars of the movie. I have a hard time believing the rewrite could be about expanding their roles or that Disney was surprised about how people responded. I’d bet this is just the positive spin of a rewrite. Its not like they are going to admit problems with the script or story. Could also be about expanding Oscar Isaac’s role since his star has risen quite a bit since he was originally cast. I’d bet they are having issues with Luke, like JJ, Arndt and Kasdan did. They basically punted that issue to Rian and this film.

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:52 am
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      They had already said they were bringing in two new characters that they were now dialing back to expand on the original cast.

      I think it’s very believable with how Hollywood likes to cram as much as they can into a film to start winnowing down the roles of characters to shadows of what they were in the previous film.

      People here seem to forget that characters like Snoke and possibly Maz are going to come back and play a larger role themselves in how the story is shaped. Han has no exited stage right, and Luke will take his screen time, but Oscar Isaac’s Poe now demands a larger share since he wasn’t around almost at all yet ended up receiving a great deal of praise from the fans.

      • January 21, 2016 at 3:49 am
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        “start winnowing down the roles of characters to shadows of what they were in the previous film.’
        .
        Or just earlier drafts. coughPhasmacoughcough.

        • January 21, 2016 at 5:12 am
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          Hate to agree with you. But yeah. Phasma got the shaft in EP7 big time.

          • January 21, 2016 at 10:42 am
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            Come to the darkside. We have cookies.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:53 pm
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    They deny us of Luke for another two years, after waiting decades. And bet they still screw him up.

    • January 20, 2016 at 11:57 pm
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      There are these wonderful other movies featuring Luke Skywalker prominently. They were made in the late 70s-early 80s. Definitely worth checking out.

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:47 am
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      Man. I hate to say it, but you could Troll more like Crankypants? Or Ghost of Obi Wan Kenobi? Or Snark when he’s feeling moody?

      It’s not even fun to reply to your messages because they’re not even coherent thoughts, just you babbling inanely about how angry you are you waited too long eating fudge at your computer desk, and now not only are you fingers all sticky but your pants are full of shit and you have to sit in the smell because you’re far too lazy or unconcerned to get up and do something about it.

      • January 21, 2016 at 3:47 am
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        Bite your tongue. I **do not** troll. I don’t feel a need to pull punches, and I call bullshit when I see it, but NEVER trolling.

        • January 21, 2016 at 4:34 am
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          I think spewing your hatred non-stop to the point that it becomes repetitive and soffocative counts as soft trolling.

          • January 21, 2016 at 5:03 am
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            Soft trolling’s a thing?! ^_-

        • January 21, 2016 at 5:11 am
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          You troll so hard you make a thirteen year old discovering pornhub for the first time look soft.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:53 pm
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    It’s frustrating that the film was delayed, but it’s for the best. The thing I’m worried about is Kylo Ren. I really want him to be one of the main characters of Episode 8, but since he had mixed reactions, I think he will have less screentime. :/ And that sucks, because he was my favorite.

    • January 20, 2016 at 11:40 pm
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      Where are the mixed reactions? I’ve heard no mixed reactions to Kylo.

      • January 20, 2016 at 11:45 pm
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        The haters just dont like the face of the actor. The character itself is very well written.

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:24 am
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        A lot of people thought he was a “whiny teenager”

        • January 21, 2016 at 12:24 am
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          I think that was just the vocal minority. Everyone I’ve talked to thought he was really cool. Making him even cooler wouldn’t hurt though.

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:09 am
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      He’s had a mostly positive reaction, so he’ll be getting just as much screen time.

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:24 am
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        I really hope you are right.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:53 pm
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    So I guess no 6 months between films then? I was really pulling for another summer release but obviously this has to do with the script issues and not wanting to conflict with their own MCU films.

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:28 am
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      The dream of two new Star Wars movies within 6 months of each other…

      Will remain a dream 🙁

      • January 21, 2016 at 3:43 am
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        Well, That’s probably true of IX but Han Solo has no release date yet and since they seem to be going for a GOTG vibe, It could serve a good summer substitute after the second one coms out.

      • January 21, 2016 at 3:45 am
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        Too much SW. Hell, even SW every year makes me think Disney is shooting themselves in the foot a bit. TFA did so much business so fast because it was an EVENT film. Churning these things out annually is going to take a bit of the shine off them. We’ll see though.

        • January 21, 2016 at 5:10 am
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          I don’t think for a minute that any of the other films will have TFA success. You’re correct, it’s an event film.

          But if Marvel movies are any indication, they still make 150+ on a no-name Super Hero like Antman, they’re still set for Star Wars until we get sick of it.

          And that’s a big question to answer, when will Star Wars fans get sick of Star Wars? We haven’t gotten sick of it in various formats over the past 40 years; comics, animated shows, books, games.

          Would more movies help, or hurt? I suppose it depends on the quality of what is produced. If they give us good films, we’ll most likely go see them.

          If they stop doing that…

          • January 21, 2016 at 10:41 am
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            Ah, but Ant Man was a surprise because it was so goddamn GOOD though. We’re back to what quality of film can Disney churn out yea after year, aren’t we?

          • January 21, 2016 at 10:40 pm
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            Yes. And if you really liked Antman, to me it’s one of the weakest films they’ve put out but I agree with you, it’s still very good.

            I really enjoyed Age of Ultron too, it wasn’t as good as the original by a long shot, but still a fun movie that was well acted. I liked Spader’s Ultron, loved Vision. And now I’m strangely excited for Civil War. I keep telling myself I should be sick of Marvel stuff. But I’m not.

            And even though I know Batman v Superman is going to suck, still excited about it. And I thought the new Suicide Squad trailer was Dope.

            Again, I keep telling myself I should be over comic book movies. I’m not even a comic book reader beside the odd Batman graphic novel. But I still get excited/pay to see/enjoy them.

            I love Star Wars to death. If they put out films at least as good as Antman as their worst entries into the Universe, I’d keep paying for for the foreseeable future.

  • January 20, 2016 at 10:59 pm
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    I suspect that Disney demanded a major rewrite after all. Anyway, it’s better to get it right rather than rushing it, especially after TFA’s major commercial success.

    • January 20, 2016 at 11:15 pm
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      it seems they’ll start shooting next month anyway, so the script shouldn’t change that much. I don’t think Rian’s script was turned down

    • January 20, 2016 at 11:37 pm
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      Rewrites that only delay filming for just a few weeks tells us this isn’t a major rewrite of the script, if not, just a polish. If it were major edits, filming would be delayed way longer than a month.

      • January 20, 2016 at 11:43 pm
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        So why the 7 month release delay then?

        • January 21, 2016 at 12:02 am
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          Maybe because of how long the shooting period might be (TFA’s was 6 months),and work on the special effects.There’s also the possibility of reshoots.

        • January 21, 2016 at 12:24 am
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          Well, realistically, if they need a few more weeks production time, they can’t just push the release out those same few weeks and dump it in late summer 2017 – along with “February”, that’s where shitty fillms go to die. If they don’t make Memorial Day weekend, they’re pretty much committed to the next major release season, which in recent years means December.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:25 am
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            Exactly.

          • January 21, 2016 at 10:40 am
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            But friggin Avatar 2 is also december! And if they only needed a couple of more weeks was the delay even necessary? Big studios like Disney donsen’t plan in minor complications?

          • January 21, 2016 at 10:46 am
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            Cameron will blink, count on it. SW is as unassailable in December as LotR was. And keep in mind, when we’re talking about a couple of weeks, that really tanslates to a month and a half.

  • January 20, 2016 at 11:06 pm
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    Ep. 8 will have Starkilker 2. And this time, the First Order will strike back. Kylo Ren will cut Rey’s hand off. Fin will be frozen in carbonite. Oh gee, what other fan services can they throw in so people leave the theater feeling like they did in the 1980’s. Next, they will find a way to push Rian out completely.

    • January 20, 2016 at 11:09 pm
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      Its a lot harder to copy-paste episode V tho. That movie is too unique to do so.

      • January 20, 2016 at 11:10 pm
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        Agreed. Taking a chance on making a new ESB may just blow up in Disney’s face. It’s much easier to screw up a movie like that than to get it right.

        • January 20, 2016 at 11:17 pm
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          Yup. Epsiode IV is pretty easy to mimic. Build a big thing that soot lazers and get it destroyed by the protagonists at the end. Epsiode V is another story tho. I think with TFA’s cast its impossible to mimic. We have now two main villains (Kylo and Snoke) who will act (in ep V only Vader acted). We have the knights of ren. We have completly other political structure (Resistance, Republic, and a smaller First order). We have Luke who actually is able to do something other than just mentoring (unlike Yoda). So I think with TFA’s cast they cant mimic epiosde V. They are forced to be original now (smaller references can apper tho).

          • January 20, 2016 at 11:26 pm
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            Exactly. For as amazing a film as it’ll always be, ANH’s formula is pretty generic and much easier to reproduce than TESB indeed.

            I agree that there’s much more to learn (and come) from the Knights of Ren. I’m also positive that Snoke wouldn’t fear Luke as much if all he can do now is train new Jedi. I bet Master Skywalker has a much bigger role to play than Yoda in TESB, absolutely.

            The film may replicate a few things (Rey’s Jedi training, her origins, just like Luke in TESB), but not everything. Also the blows suffered by the Republic and 1st Order alike should be much more grievous than when the Empire lost Death Star I. Neither organization is as powerful as the Empire was in TESB.

          • January 20, 2016 at 11:36 pm
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            Besides, TFA was so close to ANH because it was the safest thing to do, and given the very vocal prequel-haters, it’s understandable that Disney-Lucasfilm would want to play it safe, and pander to the OT fans.

            But now that that’s out of the way, I really hope they realize that pandering is unnecessary at this point. They’ve got us hooked, but they need to continue the NEW story – both in terms of characters AND PLOT – if they want to reel us in.

        • January 20, 2016 at 11:17 pm
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          How about we trust a massive Star Wars fan and talented and pretty edgy film director to do us proud rather than us incessantly worry about how it might fuck up. You people are real buzzkills.

          • January 20, 2016 at 11:30 pm
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            How about we learn to read properly before spewing nonsense at other posters?

            I never said that Ep. VIII will be good (or bad, for that matter). I said that reproducing a film like TESB is much easier said than done. Anything else you might’ve read into my comment is your problem. I have the right to speak my mind and I’ll do so whenever I please.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:26 am
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            Disney heard loud and clear the criticism from fans and critics alike that this movie may have resembled ANH a little too much.

            Why would they ignore that, which there is literally a fountain spewing forth from the internet of, and rewrite a script that was nothing like ESB, into a script that is.

            They already said why the rewrite was happening. My guess, would be in addition to what has already been stated they’re going to work hard to make the film differ from ESB considerably.

            You guys are silly.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:38 am
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            Mmmm…because even with said criticisms they just made a billion dollars (shrug)? The way to get them to listen, if that’s what you actually want, is for people NOT to have paid their two bits to get in again and again and again. Making Disney a pile of dosh is NOT the way to teach them they need to listen to the fans.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:45 am
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            I doubt just because the film made money they’re not going to listen to actual criticism after it. The reason they made the movie the way they did, was the glaring criticism from the fans of the prequel trilogy and the state of the Star Wars franchise in 2012.

            But you go ahead and try to get everyone to boycott Star Wars just because you didn’t like the film. Tell me how that works out.

          • January 21, 2016 at 10:38 am
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            Goddamn you are an angry nerd, aren’t you? Fuck me. I never tried to get anyone to boycot anything, but you are straight out DELUDING yourself if you think BO means less to Disney than criticism. They made the movie the way they did because they guessed that anything resembling the PT was BO poison, not because of any altruistic wish to redeem the saga. I’m a realist, that’s all.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:40 am
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            Another one who doesn’t know how to read, I see…smh.

            Go back up and read my first comment here. Let’s hope you do understand English, because I said EXACTLY the same as you’re saying: I don’t believe Ep. VIII will be a rehash of TESB.

            Guess this makes you sillier than me.

      • January 21, 2016 at 2:50 am
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        The broad strokes are easy though – The Resistance is getting resettled after the Republic was wiped out, when the FO makes a sudden push to wipe them out. Our heroes are scattered to the winds, trying to escape the relentless pursuit of the FO. Meanwhile, Rey has convinced Luke to come back to the fight by passing on his knowlege at least one last time to her, and is growing stronger with the Force. The awakening in her has alerted Snoke (oh dear god….”Snoke”…I just…I just can’t) that the girl who beat Ren is becoming a threat. Now here’s the twist – KYLO wants her dead, Sn….nope…wants to bring her to the dark side. Eh? Eh? See? It’s like a play on Empire. Anyways, blah blah, she tapped into her rage when she beat Kylo, so she could be seduced to the darkside figures….the guy in the chair. The rest of our heroes, on the run and out of desperation, turn to a shady criminal, and sometime aquaitance of, oh, let’s say Poe for sanctuary. DUH DUH DUH! Shock! Horror! He betrays them to the FO! All seems lost when out of nowhere, Rey and Luke arrive to save the day! We close on Luke and Rey heading off to pursue Snoke, and defeat the darkness, once and for all. Iris out.
        .
        I’m not saying that’s what they’re doing, I’m just saying it’s totally doable.

        • January 21, 2016 at 10:09 am
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          Yea, its true. The very basics could be copy-pasted. But we have the knights of ren, the first jedi temple, and Luke will basically be the main hero of the movie. Plus, we now have a different political structure (Resistance, Rebublic and the FO). Also it will be revealed what Snoke (indeed a stupid name) is up to. I think this time they are rather forced to be original.

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:43 am
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      No, no. Tim. Ep. 9 will have Starkiller 2. If you’re going to troll, at least do it correctly.

  • January 20, 2016 at 11:08 pm
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    Well this sucks.

  • January 20, 2016 at 11:13 pm
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    Good luck competing with Avatar 2. I am not sure if this will help the Star Wars box office or hurt it. I just hope that there will be more Luke Skywalker screen time. I love the new characters, but Luke will always be my favorite.

    • January 20, 2016 at 11:17 pm
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      Avatar 2 will be delayed. If not, this will hurt both film’s revenue by 100s of millions.

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:06 am
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        Or maybe Avatar will just fail and VIII will get normal box office.

        • January 21, 2016 at 12:18 am
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          Nope, the first Avatar is still bigger than Star Wars VII worldwide.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:23 am
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            But do you really think that Avatar 2 will go anywhere NEAR that? Star Wars VIII has a very good chance at making more money.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:30 am
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            Avatar, which most people openly mock these days, vs Star Wars, coming off the back of an incredibly well received movie…. I know YOU didn’t like it but, c’mon, get real. Star Wars is huge as a franchise. Avatar was a good film I thought, better than many rate it as, but it got where it was on hype and the 3D gimmick.

    • January 20, 2016 at 11:34 pm
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      Sorry but Avatar 2 was 6 years too late.

  • January 20, 2016 at 11:22 pm
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    You Star Wars fans are fucking pathetic. Grow up jesus christ all you can do is moan and find ways to suggest somehow this paves the way for a retread of Episode V…. Makes me embarrassed to even be on this site the amount of pitiful misplaced whining I’m seeing.

    • January 20, 2016 at 11:25 pm
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      Sadly we have reasons to be worried. Rian’s original script was allegedly very good. Now they are rewriting it for some reason. Maybe it was too bold and Disney wants to play it safe (like with TFA). Lets hope its not the case. But Star Wars is now sadly in the hands of a moneyhungry corporation and not artists.

      • January 20, 2016 at 11:30 pm
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        In the words of the Joker”Why, so negative?” Oh wait…he didn’t say that.

        Just because the script was good doesn’t mean it can become even better.

        • January 20, 2016 at 11:56 pm
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          It’s a flip of the coin at this point. The script could need a rewrite to smooth out some rough edges (better) or it could’ve been rewritten because it was too dark and weird for Disney’s taste (probably worse).

          We won’t know which side the coin will flip till we’ve watched the actual film. But the reasons for concern that Davis stated are just as valid as assuming that the new script will be even better.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:17 am
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            There is a big chance the script will be rounded off and re-written so many times, all that’s left is a generic product. That happens all the time with big budget films. I sure hope it doesn’t happen though…

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:20 am
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            And again, say what you want about Lucas, but financing 5/6 films himself meant whatever you think of the result, they at least weren’t generic pap.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:23 am
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            A New Hope is a remake of The Hidden Fortress. So “not generic” my ass.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:26 am
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            Ah, another SW fan who has never seen The HIdden Fortress, but who feels completely justified talking about it.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:27 am
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            Oh, I’ve seen it. If you look at its basic outline, it’s A New Hope, simple as that. If people get to go as far as saying “old man dies in ANH and TFA, therefore TFA is a rehash!”, then I get to do the same thing.

          • January 21, 2016 at 10:33 am
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            Aaaaand I didn’t, so…wait, what was your point again? You’re admitting that SW is not a simple remake of The Hidden Fortress any more than it is is a remake of The Wizard of Oz, but defending it by claiming I said something I never did?

          • January 21, 2016 at 10:49 am
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            It’s really not, but do I take this opportunity to point out that I said “5/6” and so SW is irrelevant to what I said anyways?

          • January 21, 2016 at 1:02 am
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            ANH also draws lots of inspiration from Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers and old Westerns and Eastern spiritual philosophies and Campbell’s Hero’s Journey, among many other sources. Lucas wasn’t reinventing the wheel, but the guy was clever enough to present the ideas he borrowed from all his influences in a way that felt fresh and original.

            Example: what Lucas did with Obi-Wan vs. Vader at the Death Star was Gandalf vs. the Balrog in Moira all over again. But if he was anything like Abrams, Obi-Wan would’ve fought a fearsome beast in an underground setting, falling to a deep chasm to buy his friends time enough to flee.

            That’s how you use and recycle a previously established idea: you build upon it, not just lazily rehash it.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:42 am
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            You’re right. The prequels weren’t generic.

            Wait. Episode I was very generic.

            And then the other two were incomprehensible.

            So. Yeah. I’ll take generic over something that makes no sense and contradicts the stories of his better films.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:52 am
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            Yeah, there’s always the risk of the coin falling on that side (especially where big studios like Disney, who have their “formula for success” down pat, are concerned). But here’s hoping this is not the case indeed.

      • January 20, 2016 at 11:34 pm
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        Rewrites happen ALL THE TIME. Rewrite doesn’t mean the script was bad. It even says they’re adding more to the 3 major characters and less on the 2 female roles that were rumored.

        • January 20, 2016 at 11:36 pm
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          As I said I hope thats the case. I think Rian Johnson is a very talented filmmaker and if they leave him working, he will make the best Star Wars film to date. But if they are pushing back its boldness or dark vision just to be more family friendly or whatever, it cant be good. A good story must be number 1.

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:05 am
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        Because George Lucas was never in it for the money. *cough*EWOKS*cough*

        • January 21, 2016 at 12:12 am
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          Yup Ewoks and the whole preqel-trilogy. But hey, at least ep IV and V were good!

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:16 am
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            fun fact bcs thats all i do: Lucas originally planned for the ewoks to be full-sized wookies, but the costumes were supposedly too expensive, so he opted for … little wookies.

            or so the story goes. xD I believe it though, as the battle of Kashyyyk seems to have been a realization of that dream: Wookies fighting for their forest.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:46 am
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            I can totally buy this. Beats the hell out of that “Lucas came up with the Ewoks so he could sell more action figures!” I know for a fact that me and all of my friends would’ve totally preferred to buy action figures of Tarrful and co. than Wicket and co.

          • January 21, 2016 at 1:11 am
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            Yup! Besides, I’m pretty sure Lucas was bathing in liquid gold long before he got to Jedi, anyways. A cash-grab for the sake of a cash-grab would’ve been unnecessary.

            (Besides, doesn’t anyone LIKE the ewoks? I love them!! xD)

            But yeah, if I recall correctly, my source is from Star Wars Costumes: The Original Trilogy. ^^

          • January 21, 2016 at 1:25 am
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            Lol. I think it’s hard to believe Ewoks would be able to dispose of Palpatine’s “best, elite troops” with such ease, tbh. But other than that, I don’t hate Ewoks.

            As for Lucas, I agree. I would’ve purchased just about ANY RotJ action figure to complete my collection back then, and some new additions were pretty cool (Imperial biker scouts were awesome, for instance) to think that selling Ewok figures was the lone reason why Lucas put them there. They were sort of his version of Hobbits, IMO (not so different to what he tried to do with Willow a few years later, actually).

          • January 21, 2016 at 2:43 am
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            I like the Ewoks–quite vicious for little teddy bears

          • January 21, 2016 at 3:01 pm
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            TIME TO DISPEL THIS MYTH: Please, everybody, see page 513 of Chris Taylor’s ‘How Star Wars Conquered the Universe’.

            “A popular MYTH has it that Lucas initially wrote a script for Jedi where the role of the Ewoks would be played by Wookies….”

            This references the original draft of Star Wars but it had to be erased, as the rest of the paragraph states, when Chewbacca was established as a co-pilot and mechanic, thereby making the ‘native/natural vs. artificial’ motif screwed up, so Lucas had to think of something else. It wasn’t expense – albeit it was kind of unoriginal (small wookies) and the same motif gets screwed up in TPM (the Gungans have forcefield shields and ion bombs and massive ray shields…..so yeah, that motif doesn’t work there).

        • January 21, 2016 at 12:14 am
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          Remind me again how many non-essencial characters were made into figures in TFA?

          There’s Sarco Plank, Constable Zuvio (who was even cut from the theatrical final cut), Teedo, Unkar’s Thugs, Guavian death gang, Ithano and his 1st mate Quiggold; I could go on for a couple more but I’ll stop as I have shown on here that this argument against GL is hypocritical as we see Disney doing the same thing (heck, even more I should say). So yeah, let’s not get into this argument as it’s hypocritical and “grasping for straws” at this point. Nuff said.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:16 am
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            Same thing with OT…

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:19 am
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            Amanaman. Nuff said.

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:15 am
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        This is Michael Arndt all over agin…

        • January 21, 2016 at 12:18 am
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          Except Arndt said he feels he failed to crack the story, finding that Kazdan actually made it work better than his draft did. Honest self-examination or play-nice Holywood suck-upery – take your pick.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:20 am
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            Constructive as always Cranky.

          • January 21, 2016 at 2:47 am
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            I’m sorry but Cranky’s posts are so 12th Doctor i can’t even

        • January 21, 2016 at 12:19 am
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          You were gone for a really long time. Perhaps you should go back to where you were hiding.

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:19 am
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        None of us have read it. How do we know it was “very good”, because the actors in the film who read it said it was? C’mon.

        They already said why they’re doing a rewrite. They added two new characters, that they are now toning down to give more time to the rest of the characters introduced in Ep7 that everyone liked.

        Plus production schedule would have been crazy to get this movie out in less than a year and a half. I was beginning to wonder if they were going to push it back just for that.

        • January 21, 2016 at 10:48 am
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          Judging from Rian’s other movies it could’ve been good. He has the talent, and with the possibilities of star wars (a grand story with much philosophical elements aswell) he could’ve written his masterpiece. JJ also said it was good. And I trust Del Toro aswell. Man, if the guy from Unusual Suspects finds a script great than I belive him.
          The official explanation to the delay on the other hand seems to me a big fat lie. But lets hope its indeed the case and they arent ruining Rian’s work.

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:24 am
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        No, we really don’t have reason to be worried. Have YOU seen the script..? Nope. As has been noted several times the average Hollywood script goes through a TON of rewrites, they get passed about and things get tweaked, firmed up etc. This is no reason to suddenly get all panicky over and jump to the first conclusion (coming mostly from people who obviously disliked TFA) being that DISNEY IS RUINING STAR WARS. All these folk need to get a grip of their paranoia.

        • January 21, 2016 at 12:28 am
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          “the average Hollywood script goes through a TON of rewrites, they get passed about and things get tweaked, firmed up etc”
          .
          Which is why they are so many completely forgettable, average Holywood scripts.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:30 am
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            Yes, of course you’d know that being a Hollywood custodian, you’re the one who takes out all that trash to the dumpster every night.

            Alas, we’ve discovered the source to your insider information.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:59 am
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            Uh, ESB when through massive rewrites. In the first version the battle on hoth is not vs the empire but wampas. Like an army of wampas. just saying, rewrites can be good

    • January 20, 2016 at 11:37 pm
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      They are all a bunch of Kylo Ren’s. Angry and wasn’t held enough

    • January 20, 2016 at 11:54 pm
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      I want to upvote this because I agree with you, but don’t want to because that was kind of rude.

      it’s like i’m ( •_•)>⌐■-■

      being torn apart (⌐■_■)

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:15 am
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      “Makes me embarrassed to even be on this site the amount of pitiful misplaced whining I’m seeing.”
      .
      And speaking of pitiful misplaced whining…well, I think the best thing to do in that case is take your ball and go home. Yes, that will show us, that will show us all.

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:20 am
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        i read this entire post in peter capaldi’s voice.

        • January 21, 2016 at 12:22 am
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          The poster isn’t that talented. He’s a moribund Troll who only shows up on the boards under stories he can spin into as negative light as possible to attract negative attention and display what he considers to be an impressive wit by bashing those who grow aggravated with his pedantic antics.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:23 am
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            Exactly.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:24 am
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            wow, really?

            well then!

            *hides*

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:26 am
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            He was talking about Mr. Crankypants, I believe.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:35 am
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            Failing to felate JJ Abrams hardly equates to spinning anything in a negative light. I even loved the first half of TFA – it’s after the attack on Maz’s castle that the film takes a very wrong turn. That’s what’s so frustrating about it actually – it buys a hell of a lot of goodwill in the first hour, then doesn’t do anything interesting with it.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:39 am
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            See Cranky, you’re capable of actual interaction with, we, the little people, whom you so often think are beneath you on these forums.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:43 am
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            Yeah, I never said or thought that, but you go on with your bad self. I just can’t tolerate complete assholes, and dude up there with his hair slicked back down to his anus just gets right the fuck up my nose. Seriously – take a look at his posting history. Any time any opinions threatens his delicate, SW-based self-esteem he throws a goddamn tantrum.

          • January 21, 2016 at 1:01 am
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            Thank you for illustrating my point with the hypocrisy found in the first sentence of your response.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:31 am
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            Yeah. Talking about Cranky. He doesn’t even reply to people often, he just swoops in on an article he can troll himself silly on, then swoops out. Stroking himself the entire time with a deranged look on his face.

            I imagine it’s something like Jared Leto’s new Joker. Only fatter and with a beard.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:31 am
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            Wait, was that sad thesaurus-spanning bullshit supposed to be me or that whiny plastic haired bitch constantly complaining about the rest of the world that I was reponding to?

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:35 am
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            I dare you to use your oft touted intellect to determine who it was I was slamming verbally against the walls for being an obvious troll, troll.

            Damn, gave it away.

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:34 am
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      Excuse my sweariness… but jesus… it’s actually sad seeing so many trolls come out again and again on this site. I’m not sure why they’re here. To uphold the glorious Lucas Star Wars films…? I dunno. It’s tedious now the concern trolling. Incessantly. Always presuming the worst, railing on the fantastically well received TFA because they had some gripes with the film that most of us can easily overlook because the rest of it was bloody fantastic and a complete return to form after the dirge of the prequels. People trying way too hard to be edgy and different and somehow claim the prequels were ok and TFA is rubbish. On another planet these folks, and we all have to listen to them whine on every article. I cannot be arsed with this shit anymore. I came here to enjoy my Star Wars fandom but these sad people make me furious instead.

      If there’s no way to permanently ignore them and not have to see their comments then I’m done here other than reading the news. I won’t go below the line.

  • January 20, 2016 at 11:29 pm
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    You know it’s gonna be a ESB retread when the other shoe drops and we find Rian Johnson left the project because of creative differences.

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:04 am
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      You do? Or is that just your bitter speculation?

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:14 am
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        7 months is just enough time to take away all original elements and rewrite the script so it retreads the footsteps of ESB. I am a little concerned at the moment.

        • January 21, 2016 at 12:21 am
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          It’s enough time, but it’s also enough time to digitally replace everyone with Jar-Jar’s dick. Doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen. Until you actually get an outline of the story, you shouldn’t judge it. it’ll only make you look more stupid in the end.

          • January 21, 2016 at 12:23 am
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            Don’t bother with Ghost. He’s a troll, always has been. Let’m flood the boards with negative nancy BS. Ignore him, and he disappears.

        • January 21, 2016 at 12:28 am
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          Just rename yourself “I am a little concerned” and be done with it. All you’ll need to post will be a full stop so we get the point.

        • January 21, 2016 at 2:52 pm
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          So you don’t want retreads.

          Movie takes more time to, in your mind of baseless speculation, establish less retreads.

          And you’re more concerned.

          Tell me how this makes sense.

    • January 21, 2016 at 2:02 am
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      False prophets coming out strong

  • January 20, 2016 at 11:30 pm
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    I just read on MSW that this will also put Episode VIII up against Ready Player One. Eesh.

    • January 20, 2016 at 11:48 pm
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      Thats too bad for Ready Player One – a movie I REALLY want to see

      • January 21, 2016 at 1:33 am
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        Warner and Spielberg will blink and shift the date for Ready Player One. Unless they’re incredibly stupid, that is.

  • January 20, 2016 at 11:32 pm
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    The title will be called: Star Wars Episode VIII – The Empire Pushed Back

  • January 20, 2016 at 11:35 pm
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    I hope they will not add gay or not create love story about Finn and Poe. Please no lgbt

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:03 am
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      Just due to your homophobia, I now hope that the movie is rated R for a graphic anal sex scene between Poe and Finn.

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:12 am
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        Don’t feed the troll. Marcus wants some ammo.

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:18 am
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        hahaha

      • January 21, 2016 at 1:03 am
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        Well, Poe takes it up his ‘proton torpedo tube’ – that WOULD be…original…at least.

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:23 am
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      I hope Jennifer Lawrence plays a young Han Solo in the spin off.

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:26 am
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      Oh fuck off you fucking neanderthal. And yes if you’re clearly ignorant and downright homophobic (no argument you will make that will dissolve you of that after what you just wrote) then yeah you do deserve that language aimed at you.

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:47 am
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        It’s you ignorant and very angry. I have my point of view, please respect her.

        Where is your tolerance?

        • January 21, 2016 at 12:59 am
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          He’s frustrated that someone (you) would bring a bigoted viewpoint into a discussion about the Star Wars universe which is built on the idea of strength from diversity.

          So no, again, he’s frustrated. You’re ignorant and angry. Your point of view is dated and literally kills people. Where is YOUR tolerance?

  • January 20, 2016 at 11:41 pm
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    I love how everyone thinks this move is negative. A lot of doubters

  • January 20, 2016 at 11:51 pm
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    Avatar’s success was partially due to it’s coin sided introduction of Digital 3D format. Digital 3D now is played out, it will have to take a serious script and some innovation to make it work again.

    RIP Avatar

  • January 20, 2016 at 11:52 pm
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    allright , an extra 7 months to fine tune all those practical effects

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:11 am
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      Oh, I thought it was to fine tune those unique characters and the kind of story that we’ve never seen in Star Wars.

  • January 21, 2016 at 12:17 am
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    well i think that may was too soon(after rogue one) to be true so this doesnt surprise me, i hope is for the better

    • January 21, 2016 at 12:44 am
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      Agreed

      • January 21, 2016 at 12:47 am
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        I am ALL for spacing Episodes out to a full three years, and putting them in May. As god intended.

        • January 21, 2016 at 4:37 am
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          John Williams and the old cast aren’t getting any younger.

          • January 21, 2016 at 10:29 am
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            I didn’t think we cared about the old cast? Besides, Harrison is out, and everyone else is about 10-15 years younger than him. I want SW to be a fucking EVENT, not “that tedious goddamn thing that comes out every year”.

          • January 21, 2016 at 2:51 pm
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            I think a big part of it is maintaining the talent on both sides of the camera. You can’t chase these directors anymore, they have way more options these days.

  • January 21, 2016 at 12:22 am
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    My question being, why would you introduce so many new characters in Episode 8 that you don’t focus the film on those you had already established? That doesn’t make any sense.

    • January 21, 2016 at 4:36 am
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      Toys, maybe. Like Phasma.

  • January 21, 2016 at 12:42 am
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    It makes sense really that they push back the film after the recent rumours of minimizing the roles of the new female characters. Episode 8 has the potential of expanding further in other avenues than ESB.

  • January 21, 2016 at 12:48 am
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    What the @!#$#@#$%!!!!! You !@#%^%$#$%^ !@#@# $ #$%^% I hate you Disney!

  • January 21, 2016 at 12:51 am
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    They better effectively use those 7 months… I don’t know how long I can wait.

    It needs to SHOW in the movie that they put much more effort into it.

    • January 21, 2016 at 1:17 am
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      Dammit, you dang kids today with your cell phones and fax machines and your colour TVs! In MY day we had to wait THREE YEARS to find out if Han Solo lived or not. AND WE LIKED IT THAT WAY!

      • January 21, 2016 at 1:17 am
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        Lol, damn right!

    • January 21, 2016 at 1:19 am
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      you do realize that before the push back to December, it would be coming out in May 2017. That means you were expecting a Star Wars movie to be made in 1.5 years….. I am surprised we are getting a 2 year turn around. all the others were 3 years.

      • January 21, 2016 at 1:39 am
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        the difference between the ST and the other two is that rian had already written the script and started pre production before TFA came out, so the 1.5 years thing is a bit of a misnomer.

  • January 21, 2016 at 12:56 am
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    SO Rian made a compelling, mature story and Disney read it and said “whoaaa, our ANH retread fanfare story just made us $1.5 Billion. You are not putting out this original storyline. We want you to rewrite this with Finn and Rey fanfare and cater to the masses like TFA did!”

    Hence the new delay.

    You know damn well its the truth.

    Would not be suprised if Rian left the project.

    • January 21, 2016 at 1:02 am
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      I love the “this is based off fan reaction to the new characters!”. So we are supposed to believe that Disney thought people wouldnt like Rey and Finn? Um bullcrap. Anyone who buys that is retarted. Rewriting the script is a bad sign. This has Disneys fat greedy fingers writen all over it.

      • January 21, 2016 at 1:04 am
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        rewriting the script is not necessarily a bad thing. The first version of ESB had the battle of Hoth be vs. Wampas and not the empire. An army of Wampas. can you imagine? just saying, if it needs to be rewritten, rewrite it.

        • January 21, 2016 at 2:01 am
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          Meh let him rage in peace….a massive amount of people liked TFA for a reason, so even if this was the reason for the rewrites it would still be a GOOD reason. But whatever, elitists and their likes and dislikes….the hipsters of cinema…

          • January 21, 2016 at 7:03 pm
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            TFA is good. Seen it 5x now. However its not a well written story and its certainly not original. I dont think its “elitist” to want an original story, and a good one to boot. Rian can write, so whats wrong with hoping Disney lets the man write his own story? After all, if Rian can write an original, well written story for VIII, that gels well with VII, wont it make VII that much better?

          • January 21, 2016 at 7:31 pm
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            Who’s to say that he is not involved in the rewrites? Or that by doing this he wants to make the story better? I feel like people are ONLY looking at this from a negative point of view. ESB had rewrites too, and that worked out well.

        • January 21, 2016 at 3:19 am
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          And Ben’s death wasn’t added to the Star Wars script until after filming had begun, and that was definitely for the better.

          • January 21, 2016 at 2:47 pm
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            Yep, people seem to think that the production of good movies is smooth, and the production of bad movies is haphazard. There’s little correlation between the two things.

            1977 Star Wars was almost shut down a dozen times because it was a disaster to film. Praise Alan Ladd for fighting each and every day.

            Hell, even Jaws was a disaster to film, the damn shark did 30% of what they thought it was going to be able to do!

          • January 21, 2016 at 3:06 pm
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            “The Amblin production Back to the Future has temporarily halted filming. Sources say director Robert Zemeckis and producer Steven Spielberg fired star Eric Stoltz and are currently looking to recast the lead role.”

      • January 21, 2016 at 1:25 am
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        You’re absolutely right. Rewrites are never a good thing. Jaws, The Fugitive, Apocalypse Now, Tootsie, Superman, Ratatouille, and Raging Bull all went through major rewrites right before and/or during production, and they all turned out to be Grade-A crap.

        • January 21, 2016 at 1:28 am
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          I think you probably convinced him with Tootsie.

          • January 21, 2016 at 1:35 am
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            I thought that would be the one to get him.

        • January 21, 2016 at 2:18 am
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          Agreed. Allow me to retort. Those movies didnt have executives from the movie company tweeting about WHY there was a delay in release, or saying that it was to “rework the script” for characters they claimed were better received than expected in a prior movie. This IS different. Whether you want to admit it or not.

          • January 21, 2016 at 2:50 am
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            Well, it would have been hard for people to send out tweets before the invention of Twitter, but the production troubles of the movies I mentioned were widely reported while those movies were being made. Back then we had these things called magazines and newspapers, which is how we got our information, and the Associated Press would send out stories about such things. Or, for example, you could turn on the TV and see footage of the infamous press conference where Coppola talked about he had no idea what to do with the final act of Apocalypse Now. There’s more immediacy to it now, and a Tweet makes it seem less impersonal or formal, but it’s not as if the dissemination of such information is completely new.

          • January 21, 2016 at 2:55 am
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            Mate, get back into the hole from which you crawled, nobody gives a fuck about your hyper paranoia bullshit here.

    • January 21, 2016 at 1:04 am
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      You’re investing Rian’s script with a whole bunch of qualities nobody in the public knows if it had or not though.

      • January 21, 2016 at 2:16 am
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        True but the fact Rian said he was basically done with VIII and he was ready to start IX and he was NOT the one who came out and explained the rewrites or the delay for VIII, says a lot. Dont you think?

        • January 21, 2016 at 2:25 am
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          This all smells like Colin Trevorrow has been causing trouble.

          • January 21, 2016 at 2:54 am
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            Numpty 2.

          • January 21, 2016 at 2:55 am
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            exactly. look at jurassic world

          • January 21, 2016 at 3:57 am
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            based on what? this is about VIII, not IX.

          • January 21, 2016 at 4:29 pm
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            he wants 8 dumbed down because he doesn’t understand it enough to make a mediocre 9.

          • January 21, 2016 at 4:42 pm
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            Trevorrow is a big mistake on this whole operation. Just because he did a movie with a bunch of dinos that was successful means absolutely nothing. Jurassic World sucks and all its success is by a concept that Spielberg translated to screen pretty well. He just took the toys and played with it, but the film is ridiculous. Too bad Kathleen’s husband recommended her to invest on him.

          • January 21, 2016 at 4:49 pm
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            absolutely. in addition to the human characters lacking, he also misunderstood how to utilize the CGI characters- having the video game world god camera flying around during the finale showed that he deferred to the animatic creators instead of having his own vision- The previz world is populated by former game animators who think it is ok to have a virtual camera that seemingly has no origin point and can do whatever it wants. Watch Robert Zemeckis’s Director Chair episode for some great insight on this issue with effects movies. Other than the name of that movie and that it did have dinos in it…. it doesn’t correlate to Spielberg’s work at all.

          • January 21, 2016 at 6:13 pm
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            Truth brother. Good post.

          • January 21, 2016 at 6:33 pm
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            it amazes me that there wasn’t a prologue to explain how the part got up and running again…

          • January 21, 2016 at 6:57 pm
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            My friend and I had to go see JW a second time because we thought we must have missed something the first go around. Nope, it was just as bad the second time. When I heard Trev was directing SW IX I rolled my eyes.

          • January 22, 2016 at 12:38 am
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            It’s so contradictory at what Abrams has tried to stablish in VII…. I’m affraid.

          • January 21, 2016 at 6:17 pm
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            Very well said. Im a big Pratt fan and I was very disappointed that after he read that JW script he didnt tell Trev to get bent. Same thing with D’onofrio; two very good actors who looked really bad because of a terribly written story.

            People as always think im being negative nelly. But Rian was my biggest hope of saving this ST. He is a very talented story writer. Had they simply said they thought it best to move the movie to December so they could give us the best product possible, I would have been fine. But coming out and actually telling us they are rewriting Rian’s story, well that is scary.

            Hope im wrong; however, we should never forget that Disney is a business, first and foremost.

          • January 22, 2016 at 6:23 pm
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            No one at Lucasfilm or Disney is telling us they’re rewriting Rian’s story. A writer from the Hollywood Reporter is claiming that sources are saying Rian is rewriting his own script. The only official word from Disney has been the new release date. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? I’m beginning to think your ability to comprehend what you read is as lacking as your ability to spell or craft a grammatically coherent sentence.

          • January 21, 2016 at 6:55 pm
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            Trev ruined JW. I was so embarrassed for Pratt and D’Onofrio who I am a big fan of. I have no idea why Pratts agent didnt tell Trev to flake off with that horrible story and plot. My only saving grace for the SW ST was Rian writing VIII and IX. However this recent news has me thinking Disney has their hands all up in this. Disney is all about the bottom line.

        • January 21, 2016 at 2:54 am
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          Numpty 1.

    • January 21, 2016 at 2:34 am
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      And you know this how? Oh wait, you don’t, so you should probably shut your trap.

      • January 21, 2016 at 3:39 am
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        Simmer down. You know nothing either, yet don’t feel compelled to keep your opinions to yourself. Ever. Welcome to the internet – you’re just going to have to learn that not everyone is going to agree with you. That doesn’t make them wrong, and doesn’t forfeit the same right they have to opine as you do.

        • January 21, 2016 at 4:31 am
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          Don’t tell me to simmer down. You’ve spewed enough hate yourself, you know.

    • January 21, 2016 at 2:54 am
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      Fuck off.

      • January 21, 2016 at 6:03 am
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        Shut your noise-hole, you grease-ball cretin. Debate him, dispute him, engage in conversation, but fuck off with your constant feeble-ass attempts to control the conversation and impotent rage you irrelevant tick.

  • January 21, 2016 at 12:58 am
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    This is all about greed. They were surprised how well 7 was received, and now they want to milk each movie as much as they can.

    • January 21, 2016 at 1:00 am
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      Derp? Wut? How does delaying the release milk anything? You’re going to have to show your work on that one.

      • January 21, 2016 at 1:30 am
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        I mean yeah, December through February is known for relatively poor box office performances. So the only logical reason to delay Episode VIII – what should be a summer movie – is that Johnson need rewrites, and forecasts longer pre/production/post.

        If anything, Disney-Lucasfilm is LOSING money on the delay. But that’s unlikely, because we’re talking about Star Wars.

        • January 21, 2016 at 2:22 am
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          not in this case- it took 4 weeks for TFA to have serious competition- in May VIII will have serious competition the following week– They are obviously trying to recreate the scenario that worked for them with VII- which is funny because they weren’t happy about the move to december for TFA.

          • January 21, 2016 at 2:38 am
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            Possible, but if that’s their reasoning, then why did they put it in the same weekend as Avatar 2? A movie that will probably invent some kind of groundbreaking technology and thus obliterate most competition?

            It’d make more sense to release it in late November, if that were the case.

          • January 21, 2016 at 2:44 am
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            def a good question- but an obvious one- one of the two is moving. Avatar 2 will most likely get pushed to May. It hasn’t started filming yet and it will contain probably double the fx shots that 8 will. Disney’s currently relationship with Cameron would most likely command the respect to not book the same date unless they knew something. Expect an announcement soon.

          • January 21, 2016 at 2:50 am
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            That’s fair. ^^ Regardless of their reasoning though, I think that rewrites will pretty much always make something good better. Especially when we’re talking about a writer like Johnson.

            So even if it is a money-driven move, I think everyone will be happier for it. ^^

          • January 21, 2016 at 2:53 am
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            i’d like to believe that- I think they are dumbing it down but I won’t find that out till late 2017!

          • January 21, 2016 at 3:05 am
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            Again possible, but I remain optimistic. 😀 Kathleen Kennedy is awesome and story-first, which is rare for a studio exec. And Johnson is a fabulous writer, etc… I could go on but eh, I think Episode VIII is going to be a relatively easy success. Middles are almost always just setup for the end, and setup isn’t hard.

            IX is the one I’m worried about – not because of Trevorrow, but because of the conclusion. I’m really hoping that Kylo’s going to new, darker places, and not retreading Vader’s footsteps.

            Which, knowing Johnson, is very possible. Just hope Iger approves. xD

          • January 21, 2016 at 6:00 am
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            Yeah, but what is Cameron going to pull out of his ass? Smell-O-Vision? Avatar had precisely ONE thing going for it, and nobody gives a shit about 3D any more. He’s dreaming as big as Del Toro is with multiple Pacific Rim sequels.

          • January 21, 2016 at 8:13 am
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            You know who never comes up with innovative ideas?

            People who say stuff like that.

            Point being: Don’t underestimate Cameron just because you can’t think of a good idea. Especially when he’s responsible for a ton of groundbreaking technology. And even take that away, and what do you have? Titanic. That didn’t need technology to earn its spot in box office records.

            And speaking of which, if you’re honestly implying that Avatar 2 is dependent on technology to succeed, well, that’s funny, because I know of a certain Star Wars trilogy that rocketed technological advancements miles high, and yet, so many people hate and despise it with the fiery passion of 1,000 dying suns (myself not included).

            Did 3D help Avatar? Yeah, it’s probably why the movie wasn’t utterly scathed by critics. The story sucked! But the point is that technology isn’t the end all be all of a successful movie. If it was, Transformers would be a 10/10 on IMDb, and Total Recall would be like a 0.

            And anyway, if you really doubt James Cameron’s ability to make money, well

            you’re wrong xD

          • January 21, 2016 at 10:26 am
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            Avatar was awful. Bland, forgettable characters, a much lauded Eco-system that makes no fucking sense (everything on the planet is a six-legged version of earth animals…except for the dominant species), pat, bleeding heart white-guilt sentimentality, and a completely predictable story. It was sold on, and championed by its supporters on, its “immersive” nature. It’s objectively a bad film with no lasting impact on people.
            Now, I’m not sure if you’re talking about the PT there, but it made bank on the strength of people’s love of the characters and situations set out in the OT, and from the essential strength, no matter how shittily executed, of the story being told. The OT, on the other hand, made bank because it gave audiences compelling characters representing classic archetypes, was told in strong films, and presented the audience with a story they could care about. The tech was nice, but as someone who literally grew up with the original movies, and saw the PT as they came out as a young adult, I PROMISE you the tech was not what kept us coming back to those film.

          • January 21, 2016 at 10:45 pm
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            Exactly. No one’s opinion is fact.

    • January 21, 2016 at 2:53 am
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      BULL. SHIT. Fuck off.

    • January 21, 2016 at 5:25 am
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      The nerve of a company in the business of making money off of movies to make decisions that effect their making money off of movies. Capitalist pigs!

  • January 21, 2016 at 1:04 am
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    i’m guessing this also going to have a domino effect on the han solo spinoff and episode IX dates as well.

    • January 21, 2016 at 1:26 am
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      “anything else?” 😉

      • January 21, 2016 at 3:51 am
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        “The two were accompanied by a girl.”

        • January 21, 2016 at 4:04 am
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          “The film is no longer so much accompanied by any girls”

        • January 21, 2016 at 11:38 pm
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          “What gir…………….So,….I have a twin SISster.”

          • January 22, 2016 at 6:27 pm
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            Not so much a twin sister, but a cousin… that peeps want me to hook up with. Did they not watch the Original Trilogy? Luke and Leia kissing… it was weird. ^_-

          • January 22, 2016 at 8:00 pm
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            I guess making out with a cousin isn’t as bad.

    • January 21, 2016 at 8:41 am
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      I think he was just doing some abstract painting sculputure performance.

    • January 21, 2016 at 10:04 am
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      The perfect gif of my reaction to this news aswell.

  • January 21, 2016 at 1:13 am
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    I sense a lot of pessimism from the comments I’ve read. I bet those people that complain were whinging about TFA script delays

    • January 21, 2016 at 1:25 am
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      thats probably because significant delays usually are a red flag for a film. but yes SW is a special case.

    • January 21, 2016 at 11:08 am
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      Actually, noone had probles with the TFA delays. We all know how that movie was made. Arndt left with an unfinished, messed scipt, so JJ and Kasdan needed to finish and polish it day after day (it took them 2 years). But in this case we had a completed script, which was allegedly great, and now they are changing it for some reason…

  • January 21, 2016 at 1:14 am
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    Seriously, they’re putting the main trilogy on hold for low concept stuff like R1 and Han Solo? Pointless.

    • January 21, 2016 at 1:40 am
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      That’s not stated anywhere.

      • January 21, 2016 at 3:15 am
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        I mean overlapping them instead of focusing on them separately. E8 would be farther along without the distraction of a side bar spinoff movie. Interlacing them wasn’t a good idea. That other stuff can wait.

    • January 21, 2016 at 3:08 am
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      wut.

  • January 21, 2016 at 1:15 am
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    And then, hundreds of countdown clock were reset.

  • January 21, 2016 at 1:17 am
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    Sucks we have to wait longer but I don’t see this as a bad sign films go through rewrites that’s just what happens even movies that are universally loved had to go through 3 or 5 versions before they started filming. If they need more time then great rushing it out would be the mistake.

  • January 21, 2016 at 1:17 am
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    i am still confused how disney and lucasfilm could be that surprised on the success and popularity of the new cast. i mean, weren’t they counting on that or were they just planning on continually shuffling the roster?

    • January 21, 2016 at 1:50 am
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      Well, they certainly left themselves wiggle room if either Ridley or Boyegga didn’t connect with audiences, didn’t they. As presented, neither is indespensable to the story going forward.

      • January 21, 2016 at 1:55 am
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        i hope that’s not the case. you shouldn’t be making a film series via focus groups… at least not at this stage of the game.

      • January 21, 2016 at 7:18 pm
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        “Neither is indispensable to the story going forward” !?! Really !? Rey is clearly the new hero of the story as she is the new jedi, the movies are gonna foliow her journey, as well as Kylo’s. They seem pretty indispensable to me. Finn and Poe complete the trio, like Leia and Han, Obi Wan and Padmé did in the other movies.

  • January 21, 2016 at 1:28 am
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    Calm down. The movies will start to get bad AFTER episode IX. Ep VIII will be better than TFA, Ep IX will be great too. That´s what happens with all the franchises nowadays. That thing of “bad part II-III -sequences” is so “70’s, 80’s”

    • January 21, 2016 at 2:55 am
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      Episode 9 will be end of the Skywalker saga. There won’t be an episode 10. More anthology movies, perhaps but no episodes after 9….

      • January 21, 2016 at 3:37 am
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        Placing bets? Disney didn’t pay $4b to NOT make Star Wars movies. Anthology films are cheap, filler movies between the tentpoles. Looks like the plan is Marvel takes the summer slots, and SW takes Christmas. Plan on it for as long as people will keep paying good money to see them.

      • January 21, 2016 at 4:59 am
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        Boy, you must be crazy.

      • January 21, 2016 at 2:00 pm
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        Yeah that is not accurate. There will be Episode movies until the money dries up.

  • January 21, 2016 at 1:28 am
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    May was too close to R1, they want to do a full marketing campaign, and want people to focus on one movie at the same time. Thats how they can make the most money….the movie can be either better or worse, we’ll never find out how good the script is now.

  • January 21, 2016 at 1:44 am
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    Seems that Rian failed to set up new characters due to the popularity of Rey, Fin, Poe. Setting up DelTolo means RIan didn’t impressed with Kylo Ren or Hux, whom JJ created.

    • January 21, 2016 at 2:51 am
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      Pulling stuff out of your arse ftw!

    • January 21, 2016 at 7:38 pm
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      His original idea Allegedly was to focus on Luke and Leia, i don’t think he had any idea how insanely popular Poe, Finn and mainly Rey would be.

      Rey is already a cultural phenomenon close to what Luke was after ANH

    • January 21, 2016 at 2:13 am
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      You take the word “fanboi” to a whole new level. Seriously, chill.

  • January 21, 2016 at 2:11 am
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    I think that focusing on the main characters introduced in TFA is a good thing. Too many sequels feel like they have to introduce too many characters and too many simultaneous stories, and that ruins the film. Pirates of the Caribbean Part 2 is a prime example. I want to see what happens to Rey, Finn and Kylo. I don’t need a bunch of new characters.

  • January 21, 2016 at 2:44 am
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    Good lord, people, this is completely expected news. Don’t get your panties all up in a bunch about re-writes — TFA made shitloads of money, December proved to be a good release date and the original move from May to December caused Ep 8 to lose 6 months of quality production time. It was inevitable this would happen and it makes sound financial and creative sense.

    But of course the sky is falling for half of you. Because it’s Star Wars and you have to focus only on the negative at all times. Sometimes I wonder why I even read these ridiculous comments sections.

    • January 21, 2016 at 3:18 am
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      I know exactly how you feel.

    • January 21, 2016 at 3:32 am
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      it didn’t lose any production time. pretty much all of the extra time for TFA was post production and ep VIII is still starting production in the originally planned window. this is all about marketing strategies, which i don’t begrudge at all.

      • January 21, 2016 at 3:35 am
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        I see your point, but that’s not entirely correct. TFA apparently had plotlines and minor characters cut and shuffled up until the last minute, and I would suspect that any movement in TFA would have to impact Ep 8. So if TFA was released 6 months “late” it would indeed impact Ep 8s production schedule to some degree.

        • January 21, 2016 at 3:45 am
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          to an extent, yes. but the changes you speak of weren’t happening in a vacuum. JJ and Rian were in contact about it the whole way. besides, i think most of the cuts made into novel anyway, so they would still be canon.

    • January 22, 2016 at 2:38 am
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      Well Rian is a very good writer so I dont think its rediculous to be concerned that Disney may interfere in his story telling. Hopefully that wont be the case.

  • January 21, 2016 at 3:19 am
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    First gut reaction was annoyance since I don’t want to wait an additional seven months, but this means it has breathing room. Rushing a movie can be a death sentence. It shows they are making a movie, not a release date.

  • January 21, 2016 at 3:51 am
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    So it was real. Great, whatever. Makes me think the real leaks are even further out than we think. The shots list didn’t leak until 10 months before Episode’s 7 release date. February 2017 it is. 🙁

    • January 21, 2016 at 2:33 pm
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      I’ve never followed a movie’s production and all the rumors this closely before, but I couldn’t believe how many of the rumors turned out to be true on this film. Even the ones that were wrong (the lightsaber floating through space to open the film) were actually correct at the time the rumor was released. I won’t be following them again next time anyway.

  • January 21, 2016 at 4:07 am
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    Maybe by the “reaction to the new characters” they’re talking about Phasma and Poe? They’ve been pretty vocal about making sure fans know that Phasma will be getting more to do after fans complained about her not doing enough this time. Could be that they’re incorporating the Knights of Ren in a larger capacity or even Hux. I don’t see up there where it states that they’re rewriting the script to focus more on Rey and Finn (other than a singular speculative statement by the author.)

    • January 21, 2016 at 4:58 am
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      I think they named it The Force Awakens, and yes, the force is in Kylo, the force has come clearly to Rey, but if the force was with anybody in the movie, it was with Poe, he scaped a destroyer in a fighter he didnt know, rescued all of them in Kanata Castle, in 10 seconds he shot down like 6 Tie F. and of course he did it in Starkiller Base. He seems not to be force sensitive, but the force was with him more than anyone else.

      • January 21, 2016 at 5:05 am
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        Ten. He shot down ten TIE Fighters.

      • January 21, 2016 at 9:34 am
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        The discussion isn’t whether the Force was with anyone in the movie or not as it’s completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. We’re discussing the “fan reaction to new characters” that’s causing the re-writes yet not delaying the shooting schedule by any significant time frame. People are assuming throughout the comments that Ren/Rey/Finn are the new characters that are causing the re-writes. I was posing the theory that it isn’t the mains that are getting more screen time in the re-writes rather the peripheral characters that fan’s liked that didn’t get service in the first movie such as Phasma and such. It’s great that you’re enthusiastic about whatever you’re going on about, but it would be nice if it were relevant.

        • January 21, 2016 at 3:36 pm
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          I was just agreed with you. You cannot give it back LMAO. 😀

          • January 21, 2016 at 6:04 pm
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            What you said never actually had anything to do with the conversation at hand though. If you were agreeing with me, you might want to read what you type before you hit *enter* because what you typed was completely incoherent and made no sense.

          • January 21, 2016 at 9:12 pm
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            Freedom speech!
            Up to you to think that.
            Don´t lose more time with me please 😀

            –> (and now I am pressing enter) <–

        • January 22, 2016 at 6:52 pm
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          They can cut Phasma, Gwendoline unfortunately didn’t impress at all with her monotonous delivery. Without Phasma we’d get more time for other characters.

      • January 21, 2016 at 2:30 pm
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        Actually, I saw the movie again today, and this time I counted the Ties shot down in that sequence. I’m pretty sure Poe kills at least 9 Tie Fighters (plus a few troopers on the ground). On my first viewing, I thought Finn’s line “that’s one hell of a pilot” was cheesy, but he makes a fair point, it’s pretty awesome work from Poe!

        • January 21, 2016 at 3:40 pm
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          Yes, when he shoot the 2 stormtroopers scorting Han and Finn, it is like, well that was a bit risky but total accuracy.
          In the movie when Kylo says “…Resistance has sent their best pilot for this task…” I didnt get it like that, but in the book Kylo saying that is totally sarcastic, so yes, they sent the best pilot.

  • January 21, 2016 at 4:41 am
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    I’m thinking they are rewriting the script to be less like EP5 and more original, just my guess. 🙂

    • January 21, 2016 at 4:47 am
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      Probably. After all is said and done, that’s been the biggest complaint about TFA, and the one most used by haters. I bet Disney and Rian Johnson will go out of their way to make something original, and very different from Episode V.

    • January 21, 2016 at 1:04 pm
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      I Don’t Care…. The Force Awakens was epic. Loved every minute of it. Hoping to get my 7th viewing on friday. I bet VIII ends on another cliffhanger, and people complain because they did that with Empire too…. T_T some people can’t be pleased.

      • January 21, 2016 at 1:22 pm
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        I’m torn..I don’t hate the PT although not a fan of them but at least I hadn’t seen the same story before. TFA looked great and had the right tone but story wise I really can’t believe they did the same thing over again. I bet every Cantina member on here could have come up with an interesting original idea for a plot. Here’s hoping Episode VIII is much less derivative but keeps the look , feel , characters and acting.

        • January 22, 2016 at 5:16 am
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          yeah, because Episode 1 isn’t about an older character guarding over a young kid on a desert planet with force powers unbeknownst to them. the older character dying in a fight with the bad guy and our main character blowing up a space station.

          • January 22, 2016 at 9:15 pm
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            I didn’t come out of it feeling I’d watched a clone of ANH though..It was more like WTF did I just see

          • January 22, 2016 at 10:06 pm
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            So its terrible quality distracted you from its rehashed story? that’s not exactly a good thing.

          • January 22, 2016 at 10:07 pm
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            lmao

    • January 21, 2016 at 5:59 pm
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      I disagree. I think at the end of the day this was always going to be the darker of the 3 films. You don’t bring in Johnson to make a film about sunshine and daisies on Naboo.

      • January 22, 2016 at 10:08 pm
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        ugh…horrible flashback to cow-lizard-surfing.

        I used to fast forward small pieces of TPM, but AOTC was the first time I just skipped whole scenes of a movie.

  • January 21, 2016 at 4:54 am
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    You know what doesn’t make sense? Ahsoka fixing the ship in the finale of the Mortis arc. Anakin is sitting right there, why the hell isn’t he trying to fix the ship?!?!?! He built perfectly good protocol droids and podracers as a 10 year old slave. WTF?!?!?

  • January 21, 2016 at 5:23 am
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    Just make sure you focus on Kylo, Hux and Snoke! 😀

    • January 21, 2016 at 6:12 am
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      Kylo, yes, he’s got MASSIVE potential, Hux…eh, if they can find something interesting to do with him (shouting in front of a blue screen just didn’t sell him for me), and please,for the love of god, let the first 5 minutes of 8 reveal that “Snoke” was some bullshit fake name he was using, because who could ever take someone named “Snoke” seriously.

      • January 22, 2016 at 6:49 pm
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        And that the hologram was just a green screen illusion so that nobody knows what he really looks like, which would be menacing, sinister and powerful.

  • January 21, 2016 at 6:03 am
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    It seems that the 40th anniversary of Star Wars will be far more than we expected. Also, what are your expectations for the 40th anniversary? I believe that it will be a huge yearly celebration!

  • January 21, 2016 at 7:09 am
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    If this means a superior movie, then I’m in. Have no problem with this. Strange that people are already speculating that Johnson will leave the movie, like he’ll be known as the first ever SW director to walk away. That ain’t going to happen.

  • January 21, 2016 at 10:54 am
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    As an aside – kudos to the mods for cleaning up some very vitriolic siht, my own responses to some particularly galling posters included.

  • January 21, 2016 at 1:16 pm
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    Just give me something I’ve not seen before please Rian..take your time

    • January 21, 2016 at 5:58 pm
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      Seriously. I just got all of his films and after a few minutes in I’m glad they got him on the directors chair. Disney just needs to give him resources, time, and let him play. I have a feeling this is going to be our favorite of the trio of films.

      • January 21, 2016 at 6:58 pm
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        Rian is capable of delivering, ASSUMING Kennedy doesnt get her hands all up in the process, which is what this latest news sounds like.

        • January 21, 2016 at 8:08 pm
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          Assumptions?

        • January 22, 2016 at 6:06 pm
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          Johnson has made it clear he knew what his job was when he signed on. He knows he’s playing in someone else’s sandbox. His intention is to balance it out, make a Star Wars movie that’s as much a Rian Johnson movie as he can get away with. His TV work aside, he’s always done his own thing, so there’s no way he’d take the job if he thought he was going to get screwed over, but at the same time he’s aware there’s a brand to service.

  • January 21, 2016 at 3:53 pm
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    What’s special about his twitter page? Am I missing something there? 🙂

    • January 22, 2016 at 8:18 pm
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      check the latest update above.

  • January 21, 2016 at 6:20 pm
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    Me excited af to see VIII in May
    vs
    Me now

  • January 21, 2016 at 11:35 pm
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    Nothing surprising really. Same thing happened during TFA’s preproduction.

    What I do find surprising though is this notion of Rian ‘threatening to walk’ if his vision is too interrupted. As if he’s got that kind of clout or something.

  • January 22, 2016 at 12:17 am
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    Rewrites…. perhaps Disney is getting cold feet due to the backlash from fans.

    • January 22, 2016 at 4:36 pm
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      What backlash? It’s the biggest movie in US history and one of the best reviewed films of the year.

      • January 22, 2016 at 10:04 pm
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        But there is a vocal minority that hated its “rehashed” story.

        • January 24, 2016 at 1:29 am
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          A vocal minority does not constitute a “backlash.”

          • January 24, 2016 at 6:20 pm
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            You’e right. So I guess there isn’t really a “backlash”.

      • January 23, 2016 at 8:31 am
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        Most old fans hate it. Just check the comment section on any review. Disney can buy reviewers all they want, but they mucked this up and they know it.
        They are also below their 2 billion box office goal and far below the 3 billion, which some predicted.

        I love Star Wars, but they had better step up their game for the next one. The game developers can do it, how difficult can it be to make the first good new star wars movie since 1983

        • January 23, 2016 at 7:36 pm
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          First, the movie has over 300 positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. You think Disney can buy that many reviews? Take your tin foil hat off.

          Second, the movie has about $1.9 billion at the box office, so it’s close to its “goal”. Regardless, it’s a wild success, and it won’t be topped for at least 3-4 years.

          • January 24, 2016 at 6:13 pm
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            “You think Disney can buy that many reviews?” Easily.

            I’m sure the box office record will hold for a while. The superhero hype is dying down (finally) and nothing else seems to generate big bank at this time. Warner’s DC Universe will tank.

            Maybe Avatar 2 will crack 2 billion, but I doubt it. The 3D novelty has worn off.

          • January 24, 2016 at 6:20 pm
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            You do know that the biggest superhero movie of this year still made over $1.4 billion dollars, right? And Disney is not going to buy reviews. Like I said, some people have a different opinion from you, so you can stop with your little conspiracy theory. Just accept that you have an unpopular; opinion and get over it.

          • January 25, 2016 at 9:04 pm
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            I don’t care one less about what’s popular or not. I play the stock market and the Disney stock has been good to me. But it’s my bread and butter to detect trends. now with DC poised to dump a gazillion suprhero films into the market, the Spiderman franchise tanking, Fantastic Four tanking, even X-Men not doing that well, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that the concept of caped CGI characters zipping around the screen has more or less run its course. You’ll see soon enough.

        • January 24, 2016 at 1:28 am
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          So you judge widespread opinion of something on what internet crybabies write on posting boards? Please. People on the internet trash everything. And spare me the bought reviewers nonsense. They have the biggest movie of all time and people loved it. Face reality.

          • January 24, 2016 at 6:09 pm
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            I gave it two shots, thinking I had missed something the first time around. But I hadn’t. It’s a terrible movie that gets worse, the more you think about it.

          • January 24, 2016 at 6:18 pm
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            And that’s YOUR experience. Not everyone shares it.

          • January 25, 2016 at 9:04 pm
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            No, it’s an objective analysis.

  • January 22, 2016 at 12:47 am
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    Crap pissed me off.

    I’m gonna forget about SWs news for 2 years.

    • January 22, 2016 at 10:06 pm
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      lol…right……

  • January 22, 2016 at 2:45 am
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    This makes more sense from a business perspective, IMO. Disney should space out its blockbuster-type properties in order to maximize profits. Money isn’t everything, but it is definitely something.

    • January 22, 2016 at 7:06 am
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      Hey mitch! you’ve come to the dark side lol

      • January 22, 2016 at 7:39 am
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        I’ve actually been hanging out here for a long, long time (even chat on the forums every now and then). This is the best place for Star Wars news, my man.

  • January 22, 2016 at 3:52 am
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    yes. its probably easier to actually have a war in space than it is to make a star wars movie. i hope mr mouse will kindly give them all the time they need to make this

  • January 22, 2016 at 9:18 am
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    Or,,,, Something is going horribly wrong.

  • January 22, 2016 at 2:59 pm
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    Hah! Get this avatar!

  • January 22, 2016 at 3:19 pm
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    Well, that was not unexpected.

    No, go Rian, make history! 🙂

  • January 22, 2016 at 4:34 pm
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    A two year wait…that’s nothing. Back in 1980, we had to wait three years after the cliff-hanger ESB; longest three years of my life. 🙂

    • January 22, 2016 at 4:46 pm
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      And then there was the mother of all wait for the movie to be released on home video (4 years).

  • January 22, 2016 at 4:43 pm
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    It does sound like more a marketing decision than a development issue. Always felt the marketing campaign would have been a nightmare if things had proceeded as originally planned.

  • January 22, 2016 at 6:46 pm
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    I’m surprised they were surprised that most people like Rey, Finn, Poe and (perhaps to a lesser extent?) Kylo Ren. These characters made all the repeat plotlines and nods and winks bearable with their charm and energy. Now if they can get Rian to write a *new* story, one that will noy just delight but also surprise..

    • January 22, 2016 at 8:38 pm
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      Yeah, this is surprising. One would think Lucasfilm was banking on the new generation being a success. There’s only so much that could be done with the Big Three at this point. Sooner or later, the new characters would have to take over.

      • January 23, 2016 at 3:31 pm
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        Sooner or later? I’d say they already have. The big three were never going to be the leads in this trilogy. They were always going to be more like Guinness, Yoda and Palatine in the OT. In the background in essential, but no lead, roles. Frankly I was surprised Ford got as much to do as he did, although that could’ve been contractual.

        • January 23, 2016 at 6:21 pm
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          Of course. It was unrealistic to expect the Big Three to remain the protagonists of the ST. But many, many fans actually believed (and still believe, at least in Luke and Leia’s case now) that this would be the case.

          If the Big Three weren’t at the forefront, or if the new characters weren’t well received, the ST could flop just as the PT did, in the minds of many of those fans. This is why I find it surprising that Lucasfilm/Disney was surprised by how well Rey, Finn and co. were received. This had to be a top priority, IMO.

          I’m sure Han’s large role in TFA was contractual, yes, and it was also to give the character the big sendoff that he deserved; it served the story well, IMO.

    • January 22, 2016 at 9:40 pm
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      Its why I think that story of them not knowing is bullshit. Just a plausible reason to give the public that isn’t negative and won’t draw criticism but instead a positive reaction. I think the only character who is possibly being expanded is Poe because of Oscar Issac becoming a huge star since he was signed on. However, Rian has been writing this for awhile and JJ said they decided not to kill Poe so his role could have already expanded.

      This probably about fixing perceived issues, probably with Luke who they had trouble with in the first film and decided not to include him at all. Could also be about Rian adding an Asian character(rumors of casting is already out there) and some type of Asian inspired location because of the box office disappointment in China. Who knows. Either way, hopefully they make a good movie.

  • January 22, 2016 at 8:32 pm
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    What could possibly be the plot that they have 3 sequels for Avatar? It was a Dances with Wolves ripoff. I don’t understand, there is nothing else to tell.

    • January 22, 2016 at 8:42 pm
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      It also stole quite a bit from an old Poul Anderson short story. Cameron must have found three more dead writers to pilfer.

    • January 22, 2016 at 9:10 pm
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      I think it’s more about pushing the envelope technologically than anything else.

    • January 22, 2016 at 9:42 pm
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      Shouldn’t they at least wait until the sequels for Dances with Wolves come out? That way they can copy them? Oh, wait….

  • January 22, 2016 at 8:57 pm
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    Hmm Dec 2017….

  • January 22, 2016 at 9:09 pm
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    Or, Rian just faced reality when he had that first script-approval meeting with Disney and his confidence was altered.

  • January 22, 2016 at 9:41 pm
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    I don’t mind the delay as long as the story is good. I was getting a bit concerned about all the new characters it seemed they were introducing. I like the new characters from The Force Awakens and think that they need to spend the time on them instead on introducing a whole slew of new characters that will need even more backstory.

  • January 22, 2016 at 11:33 pm
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    Unlike OT, PT, there are no cohesive stories in advance, just a vague “goal ” for ST. So Rian could ignore story arc JJ set up in TFA, or add a whole new touch on his episode.
    I am wondering whether KK could protect his creative integrity from Disney’s pressure.

    • January 22, 2016 at 11:39 pm
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      Are you really trying to tell me that the OT had a cohesive story set up in advance? Those films were made up as they wen along, and it shows. That doesn’t at all make them bad, but it does show that Lucas isn’t quite the genius some people think he is.

      • January 22, 2016 at 11:47 pm
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        There are always character development or choices which Lucas made , which greatly affected the overall OT story. Regarding ST, JJ and Kasdan confessed they were genuinely amazed by the direction Rian would take the story.

        • January 23, 2016 at 3:08 am
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          Wonderful. But that’s less “having a plan for the trilogy” as it is just knowing the arc you want your characters to have.

      • January 23, 2016 at 3:27 pm
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        I think the basic arc was there, but like any creative process it changed as it went along – so broadly I agree. I don’t think the OT had a great deal more planning than the ST. Frankly, even the prequels didn’t have that much planning. We knew that we would see Anakin fall, the Clone Wars, The Jedi and Palpatine. But otherwise even the PT was a blank slate.

      • January 23, 2016 at 11:08 pm
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        I agree. Vader was not originally Luke’s father. After Star Wars was successful, they came up with that angle.

    • January 23, 2016 at 3:25 pm
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      I believe the general arc has been written, and that this was indirectly confirmed by either Abrams of Kennedy earlier in the production of Force Awakens. It’s why Johnson was brought in before TFA shot, so that his story arch for Eps 8 & 9 could be prepared while TFA was still being written and constructed itself. So I’m not so sure it’s true that he’s sat down to a blank slate after the release of TFA as your post implies. I think most of the arc for the rest of the trilogy would’ve been complete before TFA came out and now it’s about putting the meat on the bones.

  • January 22, 2016 at 11:58 pm
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    If thi pertains to Phasma then we better not get deelopment along the lines of…..

    (Phasma beats Kylo badly in a lightsaber sparring duel in front of Snoke)

    Kylo: I can’t believe you beat me with no training.

    Phasma: That’s cause I’m a strong, independent woman who DON’T NEED NO MAN!

    Snoke: Yo go gurl!

    • January 23, 2016 at 12:31 am
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      I love this plot!!!! 😉

      • January 23, 2016 at 1:28 am
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        It should be in that Spaceballs sequel we keep getting teased with.

        • January 24, 2016 at 4:45 pm
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          Should be no sequel without Rick Moranis, though.

          I don’t think he’s coming back.

          • January 25, 2016 at 2:13 am
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            I feel the same way about Ghostbusters.

    • January 23, 2016 at 8:15 am
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      Don’t
      give
      them
      ideas

      • January 24, 2016 at 4:00 am
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        Mel Brooks is free to use them though. Assuming he doesn’t die next.

  • February 5, 2016 at 3:53 am
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    I’m sure the December release date will serve Episode VIII well. I’ll patiently wait the additional 7 months. And frankly….does anyone really care that much about Avatar sequels at this point?? For that matter, was anyone really craving a sequel after first viewing Avatar? Novelty made it a success.

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