New Video from Vice: Adam Driver brings Arts in the Armed Forces to the Troops

adam-driverIn this 30 minute video from Vice, Adam Driver talks about his experience in the Marines and how “Arts in the Armed Forces” can be used to help troops learn to communicate and express themselves. He also answered a curious question: “Is The Force Awakens better than the prequels?”. Find out the answer below…

 

As most Veterans of the military already know, the ability to communicate well with others is a crucial ability to have. Unfortunately though, most of the communication between the command and the service member is about mission readiness and performance of duty, and so does not allow the service member to decompress all the complex emotions felt through training and combat.

Adam Driver is attempting to change that philosophy through a program called “Arts for the Armed Forces.” This organization of actors and Veterans teaches Troops that they can learn to express themselves in new ways through theater and acting. Adam Driver talks about his experiences in the Marines and how when he was transitioning from his military Life to civilian life he used acting as a tool for self-expression.

“We’re hoping to show that language is a powerful tool, that self-expression is a powerful tool — it’s just as valuable as any rifle you carry or any tool you can put in your pack.”

 

The apparent lack of communication on military installations was demonstrated in the video when Driver and his crew were invited to Walter Reed on a weekend. Having just recently been stationed at Walter Reed I know first hand that the base is practically a ghost town on the weekends, and so they had no one to perform for. It was a little disappointing to see that when they did have the opportunity to perform on a weekday, only a handful of people showed up.  Ironically, if the command would have communicated better with the staff, they likely would have had a better turn out.

 

It was really great to see that Arts in the Armed forces was able to travel to the Kuwait where US Troops are stationed to perform their act without having to be filtered by military bureaucracy. Their are very few people in Hollywood who are qualified to deliver a message about the value of self expression to this community, and being that Adam Driver is Marine he fully understands the types of stresses involved with serving.

 

It’s also great to see Kylo Ren in another light. It seems that Adam Driver is a pretty chatty and energetic person, not like we used to see him during the press interviews for The Force Awakens. But we shouldn’t blame him for not being able to reveal anything about his character. Even his military colleagues couldn’t get much from him on the movie. Still, when asked if TFA is better than the prequels, Driver was pretty clear in his response (see 24:30 min. from the video above).

 

You can check out the article by Vice here.

More information about Arts for the Armed Forces can be found at their website here.

 

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99 thoughts on “New Video from Vice: Adam Driver brings Arts in the Armed Forces to the Troops

  • December 13, 2015 at 7:39 pm
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    At 24:30 he’s asked about Star Wars.

  • December 13, 2015 at 7:55 pm
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    Hahaha. YES!!!

  • December 13, 2015 at 7:56 pm
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    Random Guy: “So it’s gonna be better than the prequels? It’s gonna be better than the prequels, right?”

    Adam Driver: “Fuck yeah!”

    OMG he’s hilarious!

    • December 13, 2015 at 8:17 pm
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      Its impossible for this movie to be worse than the prequels. I already like the couple minutes long trailers way more than the whole prequel trilogy. The real question is: Is this movie better than the originals? 4 more days and will find out…

      • December 13, 2015 at 8:27 pm
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        How is the possible with the nostalgic protection the originals get.

        • December 13, 2015 at 8:32 pm
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          Its only possible if the movie is a masterpiece. An ,,only good” movie cant penetrate the nostalgia barrier.

          • December 14, 2015 at 1:10 am
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            Natalie is a very mediocore actress, When she’s with the right director she is very good but as proven here with anyone else directing her she’s only as good as her co-stars.

          • December 14, 2015 at 1:25 am
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            Haha it amazes me how you make it to blame Natalie instead of Lucas. Like Natalie should direct herself. I hope it was ironical 😀

          • December 14, 2015 at 10:29 am
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            She’s pretty awful in a lot of films though outside Leon, Closer, and Black Swan. Not Megan Fox bad but he’s still pretty overrated as an actor.

          • December 14, 2015 at 1:11 am
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            Even if their acting sucked, I liked that their lines sound like something two humans would actually say to one another unlike anything that Anakin/Padme said in the PT.

      • December 13, 2015 at 8:46 pm
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        Prequels are better.
        TFA is just a rip-off of ANH.

        And some people it seems want more of the same, rip-off, copy, rather than something new and unique.

        • December 13, 2015 at 8:57 pm
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          Yea because the prequels didnt copy from the originals. You know, like poetry they rhyme…
          However you havent even seen the movie yet, dont be such a fanboy.

        • December 13, 2015 at 9:12 pm
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          Haha you haven’t even seen TFA man and you say it’s a rip-off. Cool.

          This movie is a “NON PREQUEL-LIKE STAR WARS FILM”, said by everyone involved so far, and that makes it already a greater film than gungans and robots fighting in a Windows grass desktop

          • December 14, 2015 at 7:10 am
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            “Windows grass desktop”

            !!!! lmao yes!

        • December 14, 2015 at 12:22 am
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          How about you save your judgement until you’ve seen the movie?

  • December 13, 2015 at 7:59 pm
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    That monologue about the dad coming home… Imagine that emotion from Kylo. Jeez

    • December 13, 2015 at 8:11 pm
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      What’s the time stamp?

      • December 13, 2015 at 8:21 pm
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        8.39

    • December 13, 2015 at 8:38 pm
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      Shit I got chills

  • December 13, 2015 at 8:00 pm
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    That old guy in the train who responds to the woman’s question “Who wants to rehearse?” That’s Tyler’s boss from Fight Club.

  • December 13, 2015 at 8:17 pm
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    i didnt want to put this in the article but ill add it to the comments. It was really cool to see Driver on the same stage that I was promoted to Petty officer on. I worked at Walter Reed just a few months ago, and I really wish I could have seen this.

    • December 14, 2015 at 12:22 am
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      You two have walked on the same floor, so you might as well have kicked each other. Now you get to say that Adam Driver pretty much kicked you one time. Nice.

      • December 14, 2015 at 4:39 pm
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        I dont know about all that lol. I just think its cool to see him at the place I used to work. 😀 I even saw a few of my old coworkers in the video.

  • December 13, 2015 at 8:21 pm
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    I’m not sure it is entirely proper for actors that have become part of the franchise to thrash-talk other installments and, by extension, some of their actor colleagues.

    • December 13, 2015 at 8:27 pm
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      Well it’s not like he got on a soap box and started talking shit about the prequels (unlike simon pegg..), it looks like he was caught off-guard and didn’t know he was on camera.

      But I agree with you, he should understand that he’s a part of the Star Wars family and brand now and forever. And talking crap about any part of the franchise will only cause problems and make anyone who is a fan of that part of star wars feel bad and dislike him (which the people who represent star wars shouldn’t be doing).

      Outside of all that, it’s cool that he was a marine and that he wanted to bring the arts to the armed forces

    • December 13, 2015 at 8:28 pm
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      They’re movies. They’re not sacred books of the Bible or something and he has not joined the priesthood. It’s OK to not love everything with a Star Wars logo on it. Otherwise, pretending to like something that you know sucks is only being dishonest.

      • December 13, 2015 at 8:35 pm
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        There’s a difference between pretending you like something and being respectful of something the creator of the franchise that you’re getting a fat check from made, regardless of whether you like it or dislike it. Again I don’t think he has to like the prequels or tell everyone they’re wonderful, but he also doesn’t have to tell everyone (or imply) that they’re bad. Like if he started talking shit about the original trilogy I’m sure that wouldn’t be a good look. It’s just a matter of saying “hey dude, even if you don’t like it that much show Lucas and his franchise some respect.”

        That’s how representing a brand works. Call it dishonest if you want I guess, 100% honesty isn’t always called-for or necessary.

        All of that being said, it’s not like he said anything that inflammatory and once he saw he was on camera he knew it was wrong. Driver seems like a really cool guy otherwise so it’s not that bad

        • December 13, 2015 at 8:59 pm
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          The creator is gone. It’s the mouse who’s writing his checks. George Lucas has nothing to do with Star Wars any more, he did not hire Adam, nor did he create his character. Again, these are not holy scriptures, these are space fantasy movies. And Lucas knows that many people didn’t like the prequels. He’s crying all the way to the bank.

          Some people tell it like it is, others use more discretion and political tact, but when you’re chatting casually with someone, you’re not going to put on the PR face all the time and repeat the corporate line.

          • December 13, 2015 at 9:19 pm
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            Without George he wouldn’t be in a Star Wars movie though. It’s not like now that he’s gone everyone working with Lucasfilm can and should say whatever they want publicly about him. It shows class to show hiim respect and not talk shit about his star wars work, regardless of how they feel about it. It’s not like he’s dead, he’s still paying attention to what happens. There’s a reason none of the other major actors and crew who clearly seem to like the originals more, including Abrams, haven’t talked crap about the prequels: because it’s unnecessary and seems classless.

            I agree with the second part, but nowadays with new camera technology in phones and whatnot, with so much hype around this movie right now, if you’re in public you shouldn’t say anything bad about Star Wars. I know it’s not easy but that’s what happens when you become a super star

          • December 13, 2015 at 9:20 pm
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            Who has shown disrespect? As far as you like (at least) the originals, the ones that changed cinema forever, you show respect for The Man.

            Stop whining about prequel critics. This is a series of six films till next week. Not everything in a series is good, and in the case of Star Wars, one of the movies is not as good and other two are crap. The rest are gold. It’s not a big deal.

          • December 13, 2015 at 9:47 pm
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            I don’t have any issue with people who dislike the prequels, everyone has a right to their opinion. But I also have a right to say that I disagree with them and I don’t think that automatically qualifies as “whining.” And I was mainly responding to Crix when he said now that george is gone, the cast and crew can say whatever they want about star wars. I don’t think Driver was disrespectful but I think he should avoid dissing the prequels in public even if he doesn’t know he’s on camera because nowadays if you’re super famous and your big movie is about to come out, when you’re outside you should basically assume you’re on camera. At least I think that’s the smart way to go about it

          • December 13, 2015 at 9:52 pm
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            Okay. I think there’s no actor who has shown more respect to his contract than Driver (at lest in terms of NDA). I think he was really out of context here. Cameras were literally following him all the time and he regrets of having been that honest very fast.

    • December 13, 2015 at 8:56 pm
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      Grow a pair, prequel boy

      • December 13, 2015 at 9:45 pm
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        As it happens, I am watching the final half-hour of Revenge of the Sith as I type these words (one channel in my country is doing a six-evening Star Wars marathon in preparation for Episode 7).

        I notice some weaknesses and bad lines, yes. But I do confess that it is hard for me to understand that some people can find NO redeeming qualities in this movie, with its superb effects and dark subject matter (Padmé expired on my TV ten seconds ago) — whereas the same people maintain something like religious awe for the cheesy muppets and silly teddy bears that are rather too prominent in Return of the Jedi.

        And if you want to know, I am born in 1971 and quite old enough to be part of the “original Star Wars generation”.

        • December 13, 2015 at 9:50 pm
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          I’ll take puppets over video game CG fakeness any day. Jabba the Hutt still looks great. Yoda still looks great. I tried watching Sith the other day and thought I was watching an animated movie it’s so painfully artificial-looking.

        • December 13, 2015 at 10:10 pm
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          I agree. And I don’t even dislike the originals at all, but I don’t give the originals a special pass from any criticism. I think it’s because I wasn’t born in that generation so it didn’t give me the same “wow” factor. When I was shown the originals I had already been exposed to much better visual effects. That was not the case at all for the prequels (though of course they had flaws)

          • December 14, 2015 at 1:06 am
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            The difference is that fans of the OT embrace it’s flaws while most “fans” of the PT get all huffy anytime someone points out that their trilogy is less than the cinematic masterpiece that they think it is.

            Yeah, The sail barge choreography is terrible/the Vader vs Obi-Wan duel is awkward/Boba Fett goes out like a little bitch but as awful as all those things are we can still laugh at them ironically in the way we do at 60’s Batman.

            It’s still preferable over wooden acting, poorly delievered lines, dated CG, and plot points that go nowhere on display in the prequels.

          • December 14, 2015 at 2:10 am
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            Based on my experience it’s been the exact opposite. I embrace a lot of the PT flaws, but whenever I mention that the OT has a lot of the same flaws (in my opinion) I get “yeah yeah maybe I guess BUTTT” and I’m like “no ‘but’, that effects how good the movie is. end of story”. THAT is the only thing that would get me huffy, not acknowledging that the prequels weren’t perfect, which is clear. Btw when people are bringing up these flaws it’s to say how bad they are compared to the originals, which of course is gonna get someone huffy if they’re a fan of the movie. If I brought up the flaws of the originals to prove how bad they are compared to the prequels, of course that would get a fan of the originals riled up.

            And when I watched the originals as a kid I didn’t laugh at any of these flaws, and I still don’t. I just see them as flaws. And those aren’t the only ones. Again, I still like the originals but you don’t see me nitpicking it. Because I’m a sci-fi fan and a Star Wars fan and I try to enjoy all the movies.

            At the time (and now) I prefered the CGI to the puppets and costumes of the originals, even if compared to movies now it’s dated. And how good the actors were is subjective so there’s no point in getting into that.

          • December 14, 2015 at 6:57 am
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            Better effects? Sure, some of the ship explosions are outdated, but can you honestly say you aren’t impressed by the AT-AT walkers or the final space battle in Return of the Jedi? Those look great even by today’s standards. I would argue they look even better than most of what is released today, because they were models. None of that weird cgi dust (which no one has gotten to work yet) covering up the details of what is happening, no simulated lighting…

            Those movies aged exremely well.

          • December 14, 2015 at 7:24 am
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            I’d say they look great for movies made in the late 70’s. There’s no doubt in my mind about that. They just don’t hold a candle to visuals like Naboo or Coruscant, or the space battle in the beginning of episode III or the big battles in episode III like the one on the shore of Kashyyyk or the battle of Utapau where Obi-Wan killed Grievous.

            And hey I’m not dissing the originals by saying that, I’m just saying as an honest observer how I reacted to what I witnessed. You had a different reaction and that’s valid too.

            And see when you mention CGI dust, I have no idea what you’re talking about and I’d have to look it up. Which is good, and that means CGI works for me lol. It doesn’t seem to work for you, and that’s fine too

          • December 14, 2015 at 7:57 am
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            CGI dust is basically the grey dust they superimpose over just about any scene of large destruction. A great example is the final crash scene in Star Trek Into Darkness. In such a scenario, the dust would not just statically rise, it would twirl. When cold and hot air collide, these twirls happen. CGI just isn’t there yet, so they this dust is imposed manually. The problem is, it’s basically a cartoon trying to imitate reality.
            Whereas if you use a model or a life size prop and real fog, the result is much more life like.

            Maybe your eye needs a few more years to adjust, but you’ll get there.

            On the other hand, CGI is vastly superior when it comes to explosions in space or complex creatures (where models and props have limitations).

            Every technique has its uses. A director just needs to pick the right technique for his scene (and his budget). Lucas’ mistake was that he used CGI for everything. It gives the movies a very unique visual style and feeling, but it’s lazy filmmaking. When you watch the making of, you hardly ever see him leave his chair. Contrast that with JJ Abrams or George Miller or Nolan, all of whom do all kinds of exercises with their cameras. It translates differently to the screen.

            One last point regarding CGI dust, just compare any random Marvel movie action scene with this. The explosions you see in this trailer are all real. Real fire and smoke just behave differently.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEJnMQG9ev8

        • December 14, 2015 at 6:51 am
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          The last hour of Revenge of the Sith was totally watchable.

          Not because it was any kind of great movie. Lots of dumb stuff happens:
          yoda hopping around like on amphetamines,
          ridiculously drawn out duel between anakin and obi wan (with jarring music cuts),
          idiotic dialogue (“from my point of view the jedi are evil”)
          stupid plot points (“she just lost the will to live”)
          and who could forget “NOOOO”…

          It’s like a parody of a Star Wars movie, but that’s part of what makes it fun. The main reason is Ian McDiarmid. His Palpatine is just so much fun to watch. He’s cartoonishly evil and he’s having fun with it.

    • December 13, 2015 at 9:09 pm
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      He wasn’t trash talking or implying anything bad about the prequels, the troops did that on their own! He was just being honest, because there’s no way this movie is going to be worse than the prequels no way that’s how bad they were

    • December 13, 2015 at 9:15 pm
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      All the six movies were made (even if not always directed) by the same Man, George Lucas. I think yes, you can say that the originals are cinema history and the prequels are just crap. Not everything in an artist career is good.

      • December 13, 2015 at 9:34 pm
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        All 6 of them are great.
        But haters will hate.

        • December 13, 2015 at 9:40 pm
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          I think you are more of a hater than I am. I don’t hate the prequels, I just think they are not good films. You don’t like Adam Driver (by the way, one of the best actors The Force Awakens have so far) just for having commented on the prequels.

        • December 13, 2015 at 9:43 pm
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          The’s a difference between hate and criticism. Bad movies are going to to be criticized.

          • December 14, 2015 at 6:41 am
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            Good movies get hated. Bad movies get criticized.

    • December 13, 2015 at 9:15 pm
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      You could look at it in the way of him saying its going to better than prequels because why not have it be better. You always want a new movie to the better than the last movie but it does not necessarily mean he was dissing the prequels.

      • December 13, 2015 at 9:18 pm
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        Haha. Maybe you need to watch it again. This time focus on the way he says it. I think there’s no room for your theory.

    • December 13, 2015 at 11:21 pm
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      He doesn’t work for George Lucas, he’s an actor who has to take his profession seriously. And I would much prefer for him to be honest about his thoughts than to play politician and say what he thinks people want to hear.

    • December 14, 2015 at 6:40 am
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      The prequels were just really bad movies. No way to sugarcoat it. They sucked and they tainted the franchise. Not shame in admitting that

  • December 13, 2015 at 8:39 pm
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    Awesome

  • December 13, 2015 at 8:47 pm
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    I do not like him anymore.
    Any trash talk about any Star Wars movie is a NO GO for me.

    • December 13, 2015 at 8:54 pm
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      What are you talking about? My God you prequel drones are thin skinned.

      • December 13, 2015 at 9:23 pm
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        Something tells me if he dissed the OT all these “thick-skinned” OT star wars fanboys would be whining about how he should “respect greatness” or some such nonsense

        • December 13, 2015 at 9:24 pm
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          Yes, because those were films that changed cinema forever.

        • December 14, 2015 at 1:01 am
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          The thing is that the PT can’t exist without the OT while the OT existed on it’s own for decades just fine.

          Seriously, I’m watching all of them again in the lead up to the newest one and the only time you ever truly care about any of the characters in the prequels is in the last half of III.

          Anyone can watch IV-VI who has zero understanding of Star Wars or sci-fi/fantasy and come away a fan as most of the people I have introduced to it have. But the few I know who were introduced to the saga via I-III never wanted to watch another one again because it’s just superfluous back story with characters that have no chemistry with one another unlike the original trilogy crew.

          • December 14, 2015 at 2:20 am
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            If the OT were the only Star Wars that existed, I probably wouldn’t be the fan I am today. Actually, I definitely wouldn’t, and I am certainly not alone in that (I know it for a fact).

            If you just don’t like the prequel characters then that’s fine. I was engaged and interested in Obi-Wan, Padme and Anakin in all 3 movies.

            I’m not getting into the actors because that’s pointless, we just disagree there (and I disagree with the few people you mentioned if they agree with you). But, I do agree that it’s backstory, I wouldn’t be surprised if that were the main reason they couldn’t get into it. I think the correct order to show people the Star Wars movies in is IV-III (not just because of the years they were released), and without context it’s harder to enjoy the prequels.

      • December 13, 2015 at 9:29 pm
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        Star Wars I like.
        Any trash talk about any Star Wars movie is a NO GO for me.

        Like I said before I do not like him anymore. It is my right to not like actors who trash about thing I like.

        With that ugly face, he should be lucky to have a job in movie industry.

        • December 14, 2015 at 12:19 am
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          Ah yes, personal insults. How mature of you. How about you just do us all a favor and stop talking?

        • December 14, 2015 at 4:37 pm
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          I don’t think saying that the new trilogy will be better than the prequals counts as “trash talking.” He’s proud of what he made, and got caught up in a moment. So just chill out. There is a lot to like about this guy, and Star Wars is a very small part of what this story is all about. He’s doing good work with the troops…thats worth a whole hell of a lot in my book.

    • December 13, 2015 at 9:00 pm
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      Get over yourself.

    • December 13, 2015 at 9:17 pm
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      Even Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman say those films almost ruin their careers. Maybe you should consider not to watch a Star Wars movie anymore.

      • December 13, 2015 at 9:26 pm
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        Star Wars ruined careers of Fisher and Hamill.
        Ford career was almost ruined by Star Wars.

        Star Wars movies where never good for actors careers.

        And I will watch what I want.

        • December 13, 2015 at 9:29 pm
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          HAmill and Fisher’s careers were ruined because they were type-casted since then, not for being in a bad movie. Hayden was added in Return of the Jedi out of an outtake from Revenge of the Sith. Nobody asked him. This is the kind of stuff I’m talking about.

          • December 13, 2015 at 9:32 pm
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            Hayden addition in ROTJ was great.
            I like that canon version of the movie the best.

            As for actors, like I already said, Star Wars in general was never good for actors careers.

            Ford was saved because of Indiana Jones movies.

          • December 14, 2015 at 12:18 am
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            I have a feeling you’re under 21.

        • December 13, 2015 at 9:34 pm
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          Since when was Ford’s career almost ruined by Star Wars? That movie made him. He was doing carpentry work before it came out. It made him a star, and Raiders in 1981 solidified his big-time star status.

          • December 13, 2015 at 9:36 pm
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            Nope, Indiana Jones movies made Ford.

            Ford hated Star Wars because it was bad for his future career. He wanted to leave Star Wars after ANH.

          • December 13, 2015 at 9:41 pm
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            Blade Runner
            Witness (Oscar-nominated role)

        • December 14, 2015 at 7:06 am
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          Carrie’s personal life ruined her career – although she went on to be a New York Times Bestseller and was fantastic in ‘When Harry Met Sally’.

          Hamill’s career was over the moment he got on that motorcycle and roughed up his boyish good looks. 1970’s plastic surgery was not kind to him.

    • December 13, 2015 at 9:37 pm
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      So, he helps the troops with integration issues and what you take from it is you dislike him now because he doesn’t like the prequels and was honest enough to suggest that? Grow up.

    • December 14, 2015 at 6:51 pm
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      Well…I don’t know how to break this to you. The prequels WERE terrible.

    • December 13, 2015 at 9:10 pm
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      NICE!!!

    • December 13, 2015 at 9:27 pm
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      awesome.

    • December 13, 2015 at 9:29 pm
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      Whaaat? Flare from someone obviously trained in lightsaber combat?? That’s prequel-trilogy nonsense that doesn’t belong in MY star wars! 😉 (I love this and can’t wait to see it on the big screen!)

      • December 13, 2015 at 9:49 pm
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        The OT characters twirled their bodies around during lightsaber duels as well.

        • December 13, 2015 at 10:01 pm
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          Yeah, but we didn’t see anything like this (what kylo just did) in the originals. I like the fights in the originals more for their emotional context rather than the actual fights themselves.

          I think I just find it silly that people don’t like the prequel fights because they had flare. As a kid watching those fights I was literally like “WOW” and apparently a lot of people hated it, which is fine but it just surprises me

          • December 13, 2015 at 10:52 pm
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            Its FLAIR … YOU ASSHOLES!!! Sorry, that was driving me nuts 😉

    • December 13, 2015 at 9:33 pm
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      HOLY SHIT

    • December 13, 2015 at 9:48 pm
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      This is the scene I’m most anticipating.

    • December 14, 2015 at 12:16 am
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      MY EYES ARE CLIMAXING!!!!

    • December 14, 2015 at 12:54 am
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      Pretty accurate.

    • December 14, 2015 at 2:42 am
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      Maybe twenty years ago this would’ve been mildly amusing. But it’s such a hackneyed joke today; there’s nothing incisive or new here.

  • December 13, 2015 at 10:22 pm
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    amazing! always knew Adam is a great guy, great to see him out there, doing the thing

  • December 13, 2015 at 11:52 pm
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    I’ve watched the whole video, and I want all of you to do the same. You won’t regret it, it is awesome!

  • December 14, 2015 at 1:12 am
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    Not sure how true the Skywalker/Solo rumor is since he doesn’t very much look like anyone in either family whereas it’s impossible not to see it with Daisy Ridley.

    • December 14, 2015 at 2:51 am
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      I think he could pass for Han’s son.

      • December 14, 2015 at 7:02 am
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        not with lea as mother

      • December 14, 2015 at 10:31 am
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        He looks vaguely Native American but I’m not sure about his ethnicity.

    • December 14, 2015 at 1:01 pm
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      I can see him as Anakins grandson

      • December 15, 2015 at 5:23 am
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        Much as Hayden lacked acting ability, He was a classically good loking man. Driver though a far superior actor and athlete doesn’t really fall into that category. He has a very un-Hollywood face too.

  • December 14, 2015 at 4:21 am
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    He’s a really cool guy. A marine from San Diego gets to be Kylo ren so awesome. Semper fi and long live the first order!

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