Star Wars: The Force Awakens Theatrical Trailer Breakdown.

Rey and BB-8Just 10 hours after the release of the full and final trailer for Star Wars: The Force Awakens, the video has reached 10 million views. The video showed us many new and exciting shots and yet managed to stay away from any groundbreaking reveals. Hit the jump for our shot by shot analysis of the trailer, and see what we managed to find out.

 

 

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MILD SPOILERS AHEAD!

 

Fantastic opening shots with Rey scavenging:
Rey

 

Brilliant matte painting of the interior of a crashed Star Destroyer:

Star Destroyer Interior

 

Rey and BB-8 alone in the desert. Great feeling of loneliness:

Rey and BB-8

 

Rey nostalgically watches how a random spaceship leaves this forsaken place. An obvious parallel with Luke yearning for adventures from the beginning of A New Hope:

Rey

 

First Order assembles on Starkiller Base. General Hux speaking. For those who don’t know Starkiller Base is “an ice planet converted into a stronghold of the First Order and armed with a fiercely destructive new weapon capable of destroying entire star systems.”

First Order

 

Finn escaping from the Star Destroyer is about to crash land on Jakku:

Finn's TIE

 

Finn wearing Poe’s jacket is going towards the settlement where Rey is:

Finn

 

Kylo Ren watching what appears to be a test of their ultimate weapon? Could this be Cloud City outside the window?

Kylo on deck

 

Kylo talking to a helmet. He will finish what Vader started. Not sure if Kylo is aware of Vader’s true story. Maybe the Galaxy never finds out that Luke redeemed Vader?

Kylo CU

 

Kylo torturing Poe Dameron:

Poe tortured

 

Probably another look at the devastation caused by Starkiller base. Again as above everything turns red (reminding of the first sequence from J.J. Abrams’ Star Trek: Into Darkness):

Devastation

 

The outstanding chase sequence on Jakku shot in IMAX:

Chase

 

Rey and Finn on the Falcon after they escape from Jakku:

Finn & Rey

 

Han Solo looking great and telling the real story of Jedi, and the force to the new protagonists:

Han

 

The mysterious Knights of Ren looking badass:

Knights of Ren

 

The X-Wings are coming! Lake attack on the ruins of Maz Kanata’s castle?

X-Wings Coming

 

The Battle for Takodana:

Takodana destruction

 

Poe and Finn meet again in the Resistance base. The final push against Starkiller base is at hand. You can notice in the back the PZ-4CO droid – “a constant fixture in Resistance base control rooms, offering tactical data and communications support during important operations.”

Poe & Finn

 

Two familiar creatures behind Finn.

Creatures

 

More dogfights over Takodana:

Dogfight

 

The entrance to Maz Kanata’s castle with the guardian droid. Notice the multiple flags on the building?

Maz Kanata's Castle

 

Now something truly amazing. Our Cantina member Calithlin managed to identify almost every single flag on that wall! How incredible is that? You can read his investigation HERE.

FlagsListed

 

Kylo Ren’s Command Shuttle lands on Jakku, while the village is being torched by his forces.

Kylo's Shuttle

 

Captain Phasma arrives as well:

Phasma

 

Some impressive acting from Daisy Ridley over a fallen body. If you play with the colors you will notice a red stripe on the jacket, the same one that Finn has. This is Finn injured probably from the duel with Kylo Ren. Also you can notice Chewie in the lower right.

Tragic

 

Someone is coming to the rescue in the Takodana ruins?

Han and Finn

 

The final assault on Starkiller base. It appears the First Order haven’t learned the lesson from the Empire about trenches!

Starkiller base

 

The weapon located on Starkiller base was shown on the poster a few days ago:

Weapon

 

It is another design inspired by Ralpg McQuarrie’s early concept of the Death Star:

Mc Quarrie Death Star

 

Rey is really pissed. I am greatly impressed with Daisy Ridley’s acting skills. She showed several different very convincing emotions during the trailer:

Angry Rey

 

Another flying Stormtrooper. We had a similar shot in the second teaser, but this one definitely wins the prize for high jump:

Flying trooper

 

Explosion on deck. Too bad the mouse droid won’t make it…

Mouse droid

 

No comment! ” I love you! I know.”

Han and Leia

 

Finn is about to get his ass kicked (as we’ve seen in one of the other images above)

Finn vs Kylo

 

The narrator of the trailer is Lupita Nyong’o, who plays Maz Kanata in the movie. The narration is made in a way which implies that she speaks to Rey. But many times such things could be misleading.

Maz: Who are you?

Rey: I am no one.

Maz: The force, it’s calling to you. Just let it in.

 

What do you guys think? Have you noticed something that we’ve missed? Tell us in the comments below or join us in The Cantina.

 

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442 thoughts on “Star Wars: The Force Awakens Theatrical Trailer Breakdown.

  • October 20, 2015 at 6:38 pm
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    holy shit

  • October 20, 2015 at 6:38 pm
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    In the Knights of Ren shot, you can see Kylo is holding an unignited saber in his left hand and bodies strewn all about.

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:44 pm
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      I don’t see it.

    • October 20, 2015 at 9:24 pm
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      Yes it looks like Dooku’s sabre.

    • October 21, 2015 at 8:14 am
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      I also saw what looked like a Knight behind Ren that is carrying a staff-like weapon similar to Rey’s. Coincidence maybe, but they’ve so far portrayed it as though it’s Rey’s iconic weapon.

      Possible she’s a former Knight?

  • October 20, 2015 at 6:39 pm
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    kylo ren has dead bodies around him standing with his troops, and when i saw this trailer, has anyone thought about Han NOT getting killed but Chewie will Die?

  • October 20, 2015 at 6:42 pm
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    Great analysis! Although, I think that’s actually a wall and not a trench (at least that’s what I hope).

    It also seems that Luke and R2 are present either during or after Kylo and Phasma’s attack on the villiage, which goes against Luke’s rumored screentime.

    • October 20, 2015 at 6:54 pm
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      I’m pretty sure you are right, look at the very right side of the picture, it looks like structure coming up. Maybe to keep out native creatures of some kind. Or it’s a train?

  • October 20, 2015 at 6:44 pm
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    Inside the star destroyer, you can see black sided ties, as opposed to the white sided one.

  • October 20, 2015 at 6:46 pm
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    Also.. I suspect JJ is going to troll us with the Starwars crowl text opening sequence.. making us think a bit it is a classic star background, but NO! this is a door with tiny dots of ray light going through it and BAM! Rey opens the door! ( check it you see those stars in the thirst 3 frames 😉 )

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:09 pm
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      Not possible.

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:44 pm
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      Wow, great observation!

    • October 20, 2015 at 11:32 pm
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      Dude, if that’s true, it’ll be an awesome start. It requires some iron balls to do something so different from what fans expect.

  • October 20, 2015 at 6:47 pm
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    GREAT !!!!! Also I feel an ILM’s indiana jones vibes on Rey’s first scenes,
    Rey is so so lovely <3 The one shot red flare is almost a joke . Its so good only see the robotic hand (?) of Luke until now. Most amazing moment of movie magic of our era!!!

  • October 20, 2015 at 6:49 pm
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    Is it better to first watch on proper 2D screening , later on Imax 3D. What u guys think?

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:13 pm
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      3d all the way, look at that shot of the falcon in hyperspace, imagine that on an imax screen in 3d!

    • October 20, 2015 at 8:05 pm
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      I am doing 2D for the first viewing and 3D for the next.

      • October 20, 2015 at 11:13 pm
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        I may agree. See it in 2D without any glasses distractions. Then go see it again but in 3D.

      • October 20, 2015 at 11:40 pm
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        2D for me too

  • October 20, 2015 at 6:50 pm
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    Where is Luke, C3PO and R2?

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:08 pm
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      And Snoke.

      • October 20, 2015 at 10:43 pm
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        MVS, Greg Grundberg, Miltos Yerolemou , Christina Chong, Pip Anderson ect…….
        there are lots of stuff we don’t know anything of

      • October 21, 2015 at 12:37 am
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        Probably Luke is Snoke? 😛
        Sure is not Kylo.

    • October 20, 2015 at 8:01 pm
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      Luke is the new Vader….

    • October 20, 2015 at 11:53 pm
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      That’s probably Luke putting his robotic hand on R2.
      3PO – didn’t see in this trailer.

  • October 20, 2015 at 6:50 pm
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    Too much CGI.

  • October 20, 2015 at 6:52 pm
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    I love the horrified look on Finn’s face when Kylo comes at him in that last shot. He like “What the f— did I just get myself into”.? Great acting by Boyega in that shot.

    • October 20, 2015 at 6:58 pm
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      “Oh sh–. You have THREE blades? Screw this, I’m out.”

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:59 pm
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      It’s that horrible moment when you know you f***ed up and are basically way out of your depth!

    • October 20, 2015 at 9:41 pm
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      Yeah because you can certainly tell “great acting” by a 5 second clip.

      • October 20, 2015 at 9:45 pm
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        Great acting is found in the reaction shots. The expressions when someone else is the focus. John’s reaction is immediately recognizable as relatable raw human emotion and subverts expectations of what you would normally see from a hero in that situation. It tells you everything you need to know about both the situation he finds himself in and his character in a single half second expression.

        So yes, thank you for confirming. I do think you can tell great acting from a 5 second clip. He may not act great in every scene. But that reaction is great acting.

        • October 22, 2015 at 6:06 am
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          Go watch your local high school play then. Plenty of 5 second “great facial expressions” in it.

          • October 22, 2015 at 3:48 pm
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            Come on. If you are gonna get your jollies by arbitrarily attacking people’s opinions in an online comments section to stroke your ego, at least put some work into it. Why would I go to theater to view facial expressions? A medium where you view from afar and facial expressions are mostly meaningless. A mime or pretentious silent student film would have been better targets if you wanted to rip me apart. Amateurs…

          • October 22, 2015 at 4:10 pm
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            When the opinion is stupid beyond the belief and it makes even some fanboys blush in embarrassment then it deserves to be throttled. Again like I said go watch a high school play since there is a lot of great acting in that since they can show a “great facial impression” for 5 seconds. You will be supporting the local community and saving a few bucks. It’s a win win!!

          • October 22, 2015 at 4:24 pm
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            Ok. I see. You’re one of those…

          • October 22, 2015 at 5:45 pm
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            You mean a rational human being who is objective? Yes I am one of those. See the difference between me and you is this. I will wait until I see the movie to make a judgement on one’s acting chops in a particular role. If John is good, I will say he played the part well. If he sucks, I will say he sucks. You won’t though. You will literally gobble up everything that is thrown at you if it has “Star Wars” attach to it. JJ could take a dump in a box and marked it “Star Wars” and you be saying it’s Oscar worthy!!

            So again go to your local high school and watch a play if your going to be such a homer. Those kids need the support. Disney doesn’t.

          • October 22, 2015 at 5:58 pm
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            Reading comprehension helps in these sorts of situations. Never said he would be great in the whole movie. Said it was a great moment of acting from Boyega. Other moments could suck, but this is a moment of great acting. But keep on raging on. Let the hate flow through you.

      • October 20, 2015 at 10:20 pm
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        Oh, I dunno, I can certainly tell things about you after reading just one sentence…

        • October 20, 2015 at 11:11 pm
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          Oh smack! /High five

          • October 22, 2015 at 6:11 am
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            You gave a high five over the Internet??!? You must be in of some serious human contact. My suggestion is to get out in the sunlight and visit crowded areas. Greatly improve your chances.

        • October 22, 2015 at 6:09 am
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          I didn’t even have to read that far about you. Your screen name alone says your a complete a-wipe. But please go round up the other Star Wars fantrolls on getting John an Oscar for his great facial experience.

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:00 pm
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    anybody notice that the star destroyer is one of the old ones, not the new one from the last trailer. And that Kylo Ren isn’t wearing his helmet in the last picture.

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:05 pm
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    I can’t stop watching this trailer..and the more I watch it the more it intrigues me. The last stretch is going to be very frustrating especially if we get another long dry spell.

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:08 pm
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    That’s a lot of CG for a movie proclaiming to be a “practical effects” fest for the past two years.

    Still, I like it.

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:09 pm
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    GREAT WORK VIRAL.

    The only thing: The shot of the ship living Jakku and Rey looking at it are not continuous. The First shot of the ship is taken from his home, as we can see in the right the food of the AT-AT

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:10 pm
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      She’s still looking out in a longing manner.

      • October 20, 2015 at 7:14 pm
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        I’m not “correcting”, I’m adding information as Viral Asked in the end of the post.

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:11 pm
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      It’s the leg we saw in the concept art and it was confirmed by entertainment weekly photo

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:10 pm
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    great breakdown, but that’s the back of Finn’s head not Chewie, he’s facing Rey, you can see his cheek and brow and he has snow in his hair.

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:10 pm
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    Most interesting to me is no 3P0. Didn’t expect Luke, but no 3P0 seems strange to me since he’s a big character.

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:13 pm
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      Also; if you look closely at Threepios face in the poster… Doesn’t he look kinda weird? Almost Tusken Raider-like?

      • October 20, 2015 at 7:29 pm
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        All I noticed about Threepio in the poster is how he looks copy-pasted out of his previous poster appearances

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:16 pm
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    The one thing that NO ONE is asking: Who is Max Von Sydow?

    • October 20, 2015 at 8:11 pm
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      A throwaway character that serves 2 quick scenes early in the film.

      • October 20, 2015 at 10:16 pm
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        The Terence Stamp of the new film.

    • October 20, 2015 at 11:05 pm
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      Obi Wan Kenobi ………….or maybe LOBOT!!!!!!!!!

    • October 20, 2015 at 11:36 pm
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      Re: “Who is Max Von Sydow?”
      Well…if you gotta ask:
      He’s a great old actor who played Emperor Ming (the Merciless) in Flash Gordon! 🙂

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:17 pm
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    It’s interesting the light on the face of Rey crying, most likely a vehicle. Kylo leaving? Someone arriving to rescue them?

    • October 20, 2015 at 11:33 pm
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      Someone had mentioned the bright white lights on front of Falcon, Chewie coming to rescue? Maybe that hair is Chewie’s arm, after he’s exited the ship, picking up the body?

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:19 pm
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    Hm, maybe Finn gets his ass kicked by Kylo, then Rey grabs his lightsaber and takes up the fight?

    • October 20, 2015 at 8:11 pm
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      More than maybe.

      • October 20, 2015 at 11:39 pm
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        agreed. Fits like a glove

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:20 pm
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    Rey is holding Luke’s lightsaber in the scene with all of the flags. Probably the reason she can enter the place. The scene with Kylo on the bridge is interesting cause there is a red ring of plasma that is circling outside…I wonder if it works like a lightsaber only on a grander scale, possibly powering up the super starkiller weapon.

    • October 20, 2015 at 8:18 pm
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      nope she is holding her blaster, watch the shot in its very last frames when it fades out.

      • October 20, 2015 at 8:21 pm
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        Yep its a blaster. The red outside Rens window is the laser from the Super Weapon firing.

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:21 pm
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    I can’t help but hear the Rogue Squadron narrator when I read.

    The Battle for Takodana

    Resistance fighters scramble to assist stranded ground forces lead by famed General Han Solo. Travel low along the lakes of Takodana to avoid detection. Provide cover for ground forces while they extract.

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:27 pm
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    I love everything I’ve seen about this movie I’m so excited and pumped. I think we have a record breaking, blockbusting, genre defining movie on our hands. Do any of you feel the same way? Or do you think it’s just too perfect? Im so excited to be part of what is arguably the biggest movie in cinema history.

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:34 pm
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      Oh it’s going to be great, that’s for sure. I just wish they had left the music alone =( I didn’t really “feel” it, not like the originals (I know, they aren’t the originals). It’s just a bit too slow and plodding. And hell, I like the Melvins! I LIKE slow and plodding. But not here.

      • October 20, 2015 at 7:44 pm
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        Really? I LOVED the new music. Not sure if I’ll end up loving the entire score, but this music gave me chills. Part of that might be because I know it’s John Williams messing around with his original stuff, and I feel like he has the right to.

        For example, whereas I do really like the Rebels TV show, the musical variations on the original theme are a little… jarring. It might be different if I thought John Williams was the director.

      • October 20, 2015 at 8:19 pm
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        I thought the music was ABSOLUTELY AMAZING; and I own the soundtracks to all the movies, all 6. In fact the music in this trailer is so good (to me) that I can just listen to music and not even have my eyes open playing the trailer.

      • October 20, 2015 at 9:01 pm
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        +1 for random Melvins reference 😀

      • October 20, 2015 at 10:48 pm
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        Might just be for the trailer.

    • October 20, 2015 at 8:10 pm
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      Jacob…I wanted to like this comment twice..lol

    • October 20, 2015 at 8:35 pm
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      I think there is much about it that frightens me. But I’m sure gonna see it.

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:28 pm
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    I know the guy in the mask isn’t Luke – too thin too tall, too fast…but they are really playing some games here! I noticed Han said the stories were true, and only mentioned the Dark side, like Luke might have gone over. He does in the EU but that’s not “canon” so they scrapped it. IDK, just a couple of things that want to lead you towards Kylo and the guy in the mask being different people. Does he only wear the mask when he is doing REALLY horrible things? Could it be his master? Or is it just him. If it IS Luke, Kylo might be his son, and they embark on a Father/Son mission to bring “justice” to the galaxy, perhaps that’s why Leia is crying. That would make sense then why when he’s talking to the mask he says, to finish what you started. That would be kind of lame though, the main chic is his daughter too and has to save him like he saved Vader. I hope I’m wrong, pretty sure I am but it’s an easy story line.

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:39 pm
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      JEDI=LIGHT SIDE

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:42 pm
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      guy in mask in Kylo, in last shot – approaches Finn, he’s not wearing helmet, u can see it’s Adam Driver. I guess he beats Finn and Rey picks up sabre and hurts him enough he has to wear a mask after that.

      • October 20, 2015 at 8:10 pm
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        Not exactly. The mask is something he wears on and off in the film. When shit gets really personal towards the end, his mask comes off. Wouldn’t be surprised if he takes it off while talking to Han.

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:55 pm
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      Han does mention the Jedi. He says “The dark side. The Jedi. They’re real.”

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:31 pm
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    Maz: Who are you?

    Rey: I am no one.

    LEIA: The force, it’s calling to you. Just let it in.

    has the theory that it’s leia’s voice (not maz’s) speaking the last line been debunked?

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:35 pm
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      The accent sounds English to me. Doesn’t sound like Leia.

      • October 20, 2015 at 7:39 pm
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        i hear ya. it sounds different enough from the “who are you?” at the beginning to have some folks speculating last night. some had suggested it was leia…

        • October 20, 2015 at 7:52 pm
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          It is Leia – Disney confirmed it – Can’t put my finger on the link…

          • October 20, 2015 at 8:06 pm
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            interesting. if you find it, please share. 🙂

          • October 20, 2015 at 8:17 pm
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            Dont bother it wasnt Disney. It was a questionable online news source claiming to quote Disney. This news source also incorrectly called the First Order the “First Legion”. So there you go.

            Its not Leia.

          • October 20, 2015 at 8:19 pm
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            ah ok. thanks for the update.

          • October 20, 2015 at 8:32 pm
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            Stop posting this crap! That is NOT an official announcement or news story from Disney. It is a writer who gets posted on Disney.com. The writer makes several errors in the article including calling The First Order the “First Legion”.

            This person doesnt even seem like they have been following the information available for the new movie.

          • October 20, 2015 at 8:37 pm
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            Um, I don’t recall you being made God of content – if you have a source that confirms it was Maz, post it – otherwise, enjoy your day and get the stick out of your bottom! 🙂

          • October 20, 2015 at 8:42 pm
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            Fair enough. However im not the one posting extremely questionable online articles and claiming them as Disney confirmation of anything in the trailer. Did you read the article? The writer even tries to claim that Leia is saying that line not to Rey or Finn, but to Han Solo when they are hugging? Where is the context for that? Obviously just wild speculation on the writers part. If you dont actually watch the trailer and just listen to the sound track, the voice in the end has an almost certain accent. Something Carrie Fisher does not have.

          • October 20, 2015 at 8:45 pm
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            Right, but it definitely sounded to me more like Leia’s ANH “proper-galactic” accent – could be a self-fulfilling observation from all the chatter this a.m., as I didn’t pay much attention to accents when watching the trailer the first dozen times or so.

          • October 20, 2015 at 9:04 pm
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            Agree with that, there is a certain timbre to her voice that sounds very Leia-ish.

          • October 20, 2015 at 8:45 pm
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            thanks for that post. really this is all just conjecture. a few folks are thinking a bit less obviously about this is all. technically ms. nyong’o does not have a british accent either.

          • October 20, 2015 at 8:27 pm
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            http://blogs.disney.com/inside

            “Carrie Fisher’s Leia is pressed against Han Solo’s chest. She says: “The Force, it’s calling to you. Just let it in.” ”

            Not Disney, huh?

          • October 20, 2015 at 8:08 pm
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            Nope.

      • October 20, 2015 at 11:27 pm
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        Re: “sounds English to me.”
        English, exactly! – go re-watch Leia arguing w/Tarkin. 🙂

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:44 pm
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      There is no theory. Just people with nothing better to do than to invent things that aren’t there. It is Maz.

      • October 20, 2015 at 7:59 pm
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        with due respect, none of us have any visual confirmation of which character is speaking. until we have that, all of this is theory…

        …again, with due respect.

        • October 20, 2015 at 8:08 pm
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          Really? So the distinct voice of one actress to another is not enough to confirm who is speaking?
          It is Lupita Nyong’o.

          • October 20, 2015 at 8:12 pm
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            perhaps. if we’re not speculating, what are, in fact, are we doing here?
            we’ll all find out soon enough.

        • October 20, 2015 at 8:31 pm
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          Screw respect, I’m sick of a-holes denerfrating people for airing concerns, theories, etc.

          You have every right to spend you time on this theory.

          In fact, he/she is here commenting. Does he /she not have something better to do?

          • October 20, 2015 at 8:35 pm
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            all good, timothy.

      • October 21, 2015 at 6:51 pm
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        The voice is clearly Lupita Nyong’o. No doubt about it.

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:45 pm
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      That’s what I thought aswell.

      • October 20, 2015 at 8:07 pm
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        Me too. OK so who teared up when Leia hugged into Han… Besides me..lol

    • October 20, 2015 at 10:15 pm
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      Doesn’t sound like her whatsoever unless they digitally altered her voice.

      • October 20, 2015 at 11:22 pm
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        hmm, interesting. i have to say i don’t agree that it doesn’t sound like her whatsoever, but i’ve been wrong before. we shall soon know for sure. thanks! 🙂

        • October 21, 2015 at 6:43 am
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          Watch again and then listen to recent interviews of Carrie. She sounds very mannish now due to the chain smoking/drugs she’s done over the decades. Unlike Mark, She’s not a voice actor par excellence and does not have a lot of vocal range.

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:34 pm
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    Where’s Luke? Funny that he is the top billing on IMDB yet we’ve seen so little of him. I think that smells like a significant plot twist for Luke. And I wonder if “sister” has learned to use the force yet? I haven’t seen any indication in the previews.

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:37 pm
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    that is not chewy in the lower right, that is snow in finns hair………….turn up the brightness

    • October 20, 2015 at 8:20 pm
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      I think its Finn after fighting Kylo I bet Finn gets his ass kicked and almost die loosing a arm or hand I hope a arm bc a robotic arm would look badass. I also think this when Luke Skywalker will show up.

      • October 20, 2015 at 8:33 pm
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        A crazy thought… Maybe it’s Finn with R2, with the robotic hand, and not Luke after all? Probably not, but still…

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:38 pm
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    I have the sensation we will see another tráiler before december 18th… Although i’m happy with that.

    • October 20, 2015 at 7:41 pm
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      I would think only edited tv promos. Nothing new to see.

      • October 20, 2015 at 8:03 pm
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        Or TV promos with new footage. 🙂

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:46 pm
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    That trench… I thought more that it’s the planet opening

    • October 20, 2015 at 8:18 pm
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      I hope so……cause if there’s mention of an exhaust port I’ll go mad

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:46 pm
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    So Kylo Ren has Vader’s helmet. In the new Lando comics, we have seen what a Sith artifact can do to instill evil in those that interact with them. Could Kylo Ren be affected by Vader’s helmet in this same way? Could he be a collector of Sith artifacts that has been corrupted by them?

    • October 20, 2015 at 10:56 pm
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      Nice thought!

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:48 pm
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    “Explosion on deck. Too bad the mouse droid won’t make it…” That’s not the actual deck. It’s the docking bay control room being hit by tie laser fire after the tie is stolen by Finn

    • October 21, 2015 at 12:57 am
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      Wherever it is, poor mouse droid.

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:53 pm
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    Luke! where are you?! Best trailer ever. We got two more long months. I got my ticket!!

    • October 20, 2015 at 8:05 pm
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      Me too…four fix for 730 on 12/17 Xmas comes a week early.

  • October 20, 2015 at 7:53 pm
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    Anyone else think the music sounds more like Michael Giacchino than John Williams? Obviously the themes are Williams’ classic themes, but the orchestration doesn’t sound much like Williams. Don’t get me wrong, I think the music is beautiful, but it sounds more like Giacchino’s Trek scores with the epic choir swell than what we’re used to with Williams. Considering Williams’ reported heath problems, could JJ have brought in Michael to score the trailers?

    • October 20, 2015 at 8:10 pm
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      Thing about Williams that makes him better than the rest is that he isn’t afraid to reinvent himself. If you were listening to the Coruscant chase from AotC in 1981, there’s no way you’d know that was Star Wars. With each movie, he adds something to the repertoire. A new instrumentation or tone that makes the new film unique.

      • October 20, 2015 at 8:31 pm
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        Well put.

    • October 20, 2015 at 9:06 pm
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      I noticed that as well, just like the instrumentation and stuff. Sounded great though,if it turns out to be Giacchino then I’m definitely on board for him scoring a future star wars movie.

    • October 20, 2015 at 9:15 pm
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      Thankfully, it sounds nothing like the bombastic and repetitive Star Trek scores by Giacchino. Williams is the master. From Jaws to Schindler’s List – no two sound the same.

      • October 20, 2015 at 11:00 pm
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        I wasn’t talking about thematic composition, I was talking about the style of orchestration, and this sounds extremely similar to what Giacchino did with the Trek scores. The “epic” sounding choral parts are the same in both.

        • October 20, 2015 at 11:21 pm
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          I would say there is quite a bit of epic orchestrating in the Revenge of the Sith score, as well as extensive choral lines.

          I do see what you are saying to an extent, but I think it is just Williams updating his own original ideas.

          Take the lone french horn playing the Star Wars theme as the title comes up at the end – classic Williams. Also, I think we have it on the record that addition orchestration (and conducting) was done by Bill Ross – which doesn’t leave a job for Giacchino (for which we must be grateful!)

  • October 20, 2015 at 8:05 pm
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    Nien Nunb is also visible behind Finn; Mike Quinn confirmed this today

    • October 20, 2015 at 8:28 pm
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      Hell yes.

    • October 21, 2015 at 12:53 am
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      Hehehehehe.

  • October 20, 2015 at 8:10 pm
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    I thought it’s Leia talking at the end?

    I also don’t think those are trenches… I think the planet is opening up/ turning into the super weapon.

  • October 20, 2015 at 8:14 pm
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    Anyone notice when Han Solo says “the Jedi” we are looking at Finn? Could there be some meaning there. We know he’s using a light saber.

    • October 21, 2015 at 2:29 am
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      I think it’s intentional. My theory is that the Force awakens within Finn (e.g. he starts to sense the evil and lies of the First Order, and hear the screams of people being slaughtered by his fellow Stormtroopers).

      I think he’s related to a Jedi we know. I don’t think it’s Obi Wan, because that would be way too coincidental for a descendant of Ben to cross paths with the descendant(s?) of Anakin Skywalker. So who’s the other human Jedi character from the movies we would recognize? Mace Windu.

      So I think Boyega is playing Finn Windu.

  • October 20, 2015 at 8:15 pm
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    Maybe threepio is now in the possession of the first order hence the red arm. Maybe Kylo Ren ‘collected’ him too because he knows of his heritage…

    • October 20, 2015 at 9:36 pm
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      oooo thats super interesting! although the Behind the Scenes video shows him with Leia in Resistance base but, hell, you’re theory is super excitin, would love it to be real

      • October 20, 2015 at 9:51 pm
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        Me too! And no mate I’ve just checked ha. It’s Domhnall Gleeson speaking saying he found himself in a room with all these legends, as it cuts to… threepio! Probably just coincidence like but you never know know

      • October 21, 2015 at 2:18 am
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        C3PO could first appear in the movie on the side of the First Order, and then later the Resistance takes him into their possession where he is reunited with R2 and Leia. Alternately, C3PO could have been reprogrammed by the Resistance to spy on the First Order.

  • October 20, 2015 at 8:16 pm
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    Is that a trench on the Starkiller base……I hope they’ve covered the exhaust port.

  • October 20, 2015 at 8:21 pm
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    Great breakdown. So many interesting things in this trailer and still so many mysteries to to be revealed when the actual movie arrives.

  • October 20, 2015 at 8:24 pm
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    I don’t see why the galaxy would care about Vader’s redemption. He helped kill millions, and his only noble action was sacrificing himself to save his son. We the audience know that he had a change of heart, from the “tell your sister you were right about me” scene and ghost Anakin, but if you’re just a random citizen in that universe do you really care what was in his heart in his final seconds of life?

    • October 20, 2015 at 8:29 pm
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      Skywalker was a great Jedi during the clones Wars. It should of been his name they gave credit too.

      • October 20, 2015 at 8:45 pm
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        Do they know Vader was Anakin? It seems like Jedi are a myth to them, so I doubt they’re aware of Anakin Skywalker.

    • October 20, 2015 at 8:51 pm
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      Personally I don’t think the majority of the galaxy knows that Vader is Skywalker. He buried that persona really well and most people would assume skywalker died with the rest of the jedi.
      Besides, even if they did know, his redemption was more than just personal since he killed the emperor. If a Nazi general had a last minute change of heart and killed Hitler I think that would be a big deal in the history books.

      • October 20, 2015 at 10:54 pm
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        Well, Hitler killed Hitler at the last moment. I give him no points for that though.

    • October 20, 2015 at 9:35 pm
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      exactly, I was talking about that in another discussion.

    • October 20, 2015 at 11:57 pm
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      Lol. Pretty sure the galaxy at large didn’t even know that Vader was Anakin in truth, let alone know of his last deed and words.

  • October 20, 2015 at 8:24 pm
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    Aster thinking long and hard, and mourning what is the possibly rewrite of what it means to be a Skywalker, my hope may no longer get to ride with Luke. Rey has to be Skywalker and she has to become Jedi.

    I really miss the Suped up Jedi from PT.

    • October 20, 2015 at 9:39 pm
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      I think the Jedi were never meant to be suped up as in the PT.

  • October 20, 2015 at 8:30 pm
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    I took a screen shot from the trailer, where Kylo is with the Knights of Ren. Doesn’t this look like boba fett or mandalorian armor?

    • October 20, 2015 at 8:45 pm
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      Absolutely. Also interesting that they seem more like a group of hired guns, with all their own armor, gun…they even seem to stand differently. Nothing that shows they obey Kylon Ren in any Vader like way.

      • October 20, 2015 at 9:19 pm
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        Yeah, they seem to each have their own style and weapons, not like they were all trained by the same master or anything like that. More of a loose collection of badasses than any kind of real “order.” Very intriguing.

    • October 20, 2015 at 10:29 pm
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      You can see him here with his blaster.

  • October 20, 2015 at 8:40 pm
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    Why is everybody certain Kylo Ren is talking about Vader when he says ” i will finish what u started” ? Sure, the dialogue runs over the Vader shot but lets not forget that the previous trailer had Luke’s dialogue running over the same shot , so it’s just an editing trick. What if Kylo Ren is actually saying those words in a communication to Snoke ? “Finished what u have stared ” gets a whole different meaning when Snoke turns out to be Darth Plagueis and started the Knights Of Ren after he was betrayed by Palpatine.

    • October 20, 2015 at 9:17 pm
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      Trailers are almost always deceiving with their editing, so I agree that we can’t take it for granted that he’s talking to the Vader helmet there. I also really like the idea that he’s speaking to Plagueis and that Plagueis started the Knights of Ren after secretly surviving Palpatine’s assassination. But I still think it’s more likely the Vader thing.

    • October 20, 2015 at 9:24 pm
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      Maybe he’s referring to Luke… That he will finish what Luke started…sounds unlikely but it occurred to me

  • October 20, 2015 at 8:43 pm
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    Did anyone else notice the emperor’s shuttle in the hangar bay ? Or at least something that looked like the toy I had 30 years ago 😉

    • October 20, 2015 at 9:34 pm
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      Which part? Timestamp?

    • October 20, 2015 at 9:56 pm
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      Oh, I see it. Had to raise the brightness. Bottom right hand side with a bunch of TIE wings. Definitely Imp shuttle.

  • October 20, 2015 at 8:53 pm
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    The voice at the end is Leia, not Maz.

    • October 20, 2015 at 9:37 pm
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      I believe the voice in the beginning (“who are you ?”) may be Leia. The voice at the end, with a distinct British accent (non-rhotic “force”) is probably Maz.

      • October 20, 2015 at 10:12 pm
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        Yeah, We are too well known with Carrie’s voice for that to be her and hers is very manly at this point thanks to all the smoking/drugs.

    • October 20, 2015 at 11:58 pm
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      Doesn’t sound anything like Leia.

      Most likely when Rey goes to meet Maz for the first time.

  • October 20, 2015 at 8:55 pm
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    I really hope Finn survives this movie! I can’t imagine someone going up against kylo Ren and not dying or at least loosing a limb or two…

    • October 20, 2015 at 9:12 pm
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      He definitely survives. Supposedly, the actresses they’re looking at for that new major female role in Episode 8 were doing chemistry reads with Boyega. Besides, everything points to him and Rey being the leads of this new trilogy all the way through. If he dies, it won’t be until the 3rd one.

      • October 21, 2015 at 12:27 am
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        I’ve said this before about this rumor, its just a rumor nobody has seen evidence of these chemistry reads. The farce of casting in TFA was ridiclous I don’t trust these sites – once bitten, twice shy, so to say.. People maybe hired but we don’t know who or what the details are. However in my mind Finn will RETURN, he survives. Plus all the rumors, indicate that Rey visits Finn in hospital anyway. A goodbye kiss perhaps?

    • October 20, 2015 at 9:34 pm
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      There is no doubt he will survive, I suspect he may be presumed killed though and Rey will only find out he’s alive later in Episode VIII. That is of course just a conjecture on my part though. .

    • October 21, 2015 at 12:27 am
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      I think he survives, but takes a beating from Kylo.. And maybe loses a limb?

  • October 20, 2015 at 8:56 pm
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    I’m sure people have noticed but Kylo and co in the rain seems to be a reference to Kurosawa’s The Seven Samari (guess that’s why theres 7 Ren), Kurosawa being a big influence on Lucas for the original SW.

    • October 20, 2015 at 8:58 pm
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      Do you think they are all Dark Jedi? I assumed all the Ren would be force-sensitive, but Kylo is the only one holding a saber and not a blaster.

      • October 20, 2015 at 9:07 pm
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        I don’t think they know how to make lightsabers. That’s why Kylo’s is so “raw.” I think he somehow learned to build one (mostly), but the rest of them don’t know. If you notice, they all have different weapons. One has a staff, like Rey, another has what looks to be an enormous Cloud-like sword (as in Cloud from FFVII), two of them seem to have blasters (and one of those two looks to be possibly wearing Mandalorian armor). They each have their different weapons that they’ve mastered using, and only Kylo has a saber. Very interesting indeed.

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          Maybe they are just wannabe dark force users, but not very good at it. Kylo will be a powerful force user too following the “awakening”, assuming he wasn’t already before.

        • October 21, 2015 at 2:34 am
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          exactly!!! Like the dwarves in Hobbit – they made them totally fiierent from each other, with different weapons……a group of fellows with every single one of them having different style in everything. So believable, right? 🙂

        • October 21, 2015 at 5:32 pm
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          apparently it’s not a lightsaber but a plasma sword, or plasma blade or something

  • October 20, 2015 at 8:57 pm
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    I think the giant trench is so the gun can move to different angles. It’s probably easier to move the gun instead of an entire planet.

  • October 20, 2015 at 9:03 pm
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    I honestly don’t think the jacket Finn’s holding in the longshot of Jakku is Poe’s. That looks more like his own jacket.

  • October 20, 2015 at 9:20 pm
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    GOT MY TICKETS FINALLY
    December 18 20:00
    Budapest,Hungary
    Can’t wait!Hope everyone here will enjoy this movie.Wish you guys all the best!:)

    • October 20, 2015 at 11:15 pm
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      Awesome. Didn’t the main theater chain in Hungary completely crash until today?

      • October 21, 2015 at 8:55 am
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        It crashed in the whole country,but i was fast enough,thank god 😀

  • October 20, 2015 at 9:27 pm
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    Chewie has the right arm folded!

  • October 20, 2015 at 9:33 pm
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    What makes you think Kylo Ren is looking at Cloud City being destroyed?

  • October 20, 2015 at 9:38 pm
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    That one with Rey crying is definitely Chewbacca about to carry Finn. If you desaturate everything but red you can tell.

  • October 20, 2015 at 9:45 pm
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    If that knight of ren is wearing mandalorian armor then perhaps its Boba’s, we did see his armor supposedly on tatoonie in aftermath and If kylo is obsessed with vader then it could be possible that they look for relics besides vader’s. boba is a very famous bounty hunter who served the empire at times so it makes sense. Perhaps they are all obsessed with a different villain from the past.

  • October 20, 2015 at 9:45 pm
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    I think thats Poes body that Rey is over. Finn dose not have that type of hair.

    • October 20, 2015 at 9:48 pm
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      Poe is leading the assault on Starkiller Base. He isn’t near the ground.

      • October 20, 2015 at 9:51 pm
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        True

    • October 20, 2015 at 11:51 pm
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      maybe it is Chewbacca’s furr or some kind of plant…ok its a snow planet but sth has to be there

    • October 21, 2015 at 4:31 am
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      most likely that’s Finn lying there, with chewie and rey around him. FN-2178 doesn’t seem to be prepared to face Kylo in a lightsaber duel

      • October 21, 2015 at 5:39 am
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        It appears that Chewie is holding either Han or Finn in that shot…

  • October 20, 2015 at 9:47 pm
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    It also seems like Finn knows Kylo in that last sceen. I wonder if Kylo dose play both sides.

  • October 20, 2015 at 10:02 pm
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    I’m glad they cleaned up the CG in the First Order assembly shot. That’s the one thing that bothered me about the second teaser.

  • October 20, 2015 at 10:09 pm
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    Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet as I’m still working my way through the site but Han with his hands up is clearly a homage to the same scene in Jedi at the end.

    • October 20, 2015 at 10:10 pm
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      Why do you think that’s Cloud City too? Nothing at all seems to suggest that.

  • October 20, 2015 at 10:15 pm
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    This shot of one of the Knights of Ren shows he’s having a skull mask and a chest mechanical device similar to what Vader had.

  • October 20, 2015 at 10:15 pm
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    Rey speaking English ,super sexy cool,I am in love she is so my dream woman xxx

  • October 20, 2015 at 10:19 pm
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    One Knights of Ren seem to have an helmet similar to Kylo’s, but with less stripes on the forehead. I don’t know if there’s any meaning to this.

  • October 20, 2015 at 10:19 pm
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    Did you know that Daisy Ridley’s sister is a supper model

    • October 20, 2015 at 10:40 pm
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      So she models food then.

  • October 20, 2015 at 10:22 pm
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    Not impressed with Kylo’s vioce ,but i will put it to him being a fan boy of vader
    and hope the diologuge is good in the movie

  • October 20, 2015 at 10:25 pm
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    Well done Daisy ,our English Rose xxx

  • October 20, 2015 at 10:32 pm
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    And this dude somehow reminds me of Cloud in Final Fantasy 7…anyway his sword!!

  • October 20, 2015 at 10:55 pm
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    KiKA ROSE you dumb ass

  • October 20, 2015 at 11:01 pm
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    Yep Daisy Ridley is sexier than her super model sister xxx

    • October 21, 2015 at 4:27 am
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      pics or gtfo

  • October 20, 2015 at 11:02 pm
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    Disney knew that already xxx

  • October 20, 2015 at 11:05 pm
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    Totally love how to our new heroes the OT has fallen into a cloud of mythology. It’s almost as though they are fans of the story just as we are. Only now they get to live the story too. I wonder if the First Order is more powerful that we have come to understand and already rule the galaxy. That would make the legend of the rebellion more like The Alliance Who Almost Saved The Galaxy.

    • October 20, 2015 at 11:23 pm
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      If the First Order rules the galaxy and the Resistance is a ragtag group with even fewer resources than the Rebel Alliance, than JJ and Kasdan must come up with a very good explanation of what went wrong. It is already incredible enough that there is no New Republic or no new Jedi Order around. It is almost like JJ is resetting the clock to Episode IV’s time.

      • October 20, 2015 at 11:33 pm
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        Well, if you think about it, TFA is set 30 years after RoTJ.
        Now, in 1918 there was an “Alliance” that somehow ‘saved the world’ from a huge and very bloody war waged but some “Emperial” bad guys. Fact is that the world didn’t manage to stay saved for very long and, not 30 years after that… everything went down again, only this time with a somewhat even worse “Empire”.
        (Historically is a bit more complicated than that, of course, but still that’s pretty much the dynamic).

        What I’m saying is that it doesn’t really need all that explanation, it’s just how things goes sometimes: an “evil power” is defeated only for something worse to rise from its ashes.

        • October 20, 2015 at 11:49 pm
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          Yes, but the adversaries of the empires of 1914 like the British Commonwealth , France and the United States were still around in 1939 and they were not a ragtag group. The “new” German Reich had some intiial success, but was eventually defeated as it could not match the combined resources of the United States, the Soviet Union and the Commonwealth.

          What I mean is that, although I acknowledge there could be a First Order arising from what was left of the Empire, it should be matched by a New Republic also arising from the last Galactic Civil War. The two powers could have their own areas of influence and maybe be in a state of “cold war”. What we see on the trailers though is an all-powerful First Order and, again, a ragtag Resistance. The only logical explanation would be if the Resistance was actually a sort of Maquis movement in the First Order occupied territory operating independently of the New Republic. But that would be too much Star Trek for a Star Wars movie, even for JJ !

      • October 21, 2015 at 2:02 am
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        Welcome to the director known as JJ, the killer of Star Trek franchise and lets hope he doesnt do it to Starwars.

        • October 21, 2015 at 4:26 am
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          Lol? The Star Trek reboot was great, financially the best Star Trek movie to date and gave us the characters we love in more energetic locations. It’s exactly Star Trek that showed how stale the PT was from a cinematographic point of view.

          • October 21, 2015 at 6:22 pm
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            Well, that is your opinion and it is like measuring the prequels of Starwars as being a successful when a majority seem to say otherwise and monetary success does not mean that it was a success in terms of longevity as we have seen with the SW prequels. People want what JJ has created over, including me, ive seen better fan made material.

          • October 21, 2015 at 6:31 pm
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            Ehm you know that, adjusted for inflation the original trilogy made more money than the PT. it’s not an opinion, it’s a fact.

          • October 21, 2015 at 7:44 pm
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            You can believe what you will, but financial success at the box office, does NOT make it a success and that is FACT. The Prequels of SW were not well received even when the box office numbers were a success. You can believe what you wish, but what you and i have to say are only an opinion.

      • October 21, 2015 at 3:00 am
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        On StarWars.com it states that the Resistance is the Miliarty faction of the New Republic. It also states this on Wookiepedia.

        • October 21, 2015 at 4:32 pm
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          Shouldn´t it be the Galactic Army?

      • October 21, 2015 at 3:46 am
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        Well, the empire ruled millions of planets. The rebellion just barely scraped by a win at endor, and only because Palpatine was controlling all of the higher ups with the force and chaos hit when it went away – per T. Zahn – so I could see them failing and a warlord swooping in to pick up the pieces.

      • October 21, 2015 at 4:38 am
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        I thought the books have made clear that there is a New Republic.

    • October 21, 2015 at 12:57 am
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      Exactly. Kylo Ren doesn’t need to wear a mask like Darth Vader did; he’s a cosplaying Sith fanboy. (Which is not to say he isn’t a badass.)

      • October 21, 2015 at 1:00 am
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        *Knight of Ren fanboy*

        • October 21, 2015 at 1:04 am
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          No, I meant he and the Knights of Ren are fanboys of the Sith.

        • October 21, 2015 at 4:23 am
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          no, he was right, just like people from the 501st aren’t 501st fanboys, but stormtrooper cosplayers.

  • October 20, 2015 at 11:10 pm
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    Anyone notice the similarities to the first shot of Rey masked, and Kylo talking to Vaders mask. Coincidence?????????????

  • October 20, 2015 at 11:58 pm
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    Rey shooting the blaster seems bits of dark side going into her. Her and Finn are almost defiantly jedi.

    • October 21, 2015 at 2:42 am
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      |SHE| and Finn are almost definitely jedi.

  • October 20, 2015 at 11:59 pm
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    In the shot where Kylo is looking through a window, he’s in s Star Destroyer, in the left windows we can see stars through the windows, so he’s in space. He might be looking at Starkiller’s laser or whatever weapon it fires while it’s traveling to destroy a star system, likely the one we see exploding the frame after Kylo’s torturing Poe.

  • October 21, 2015 at 12:00 am
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    So, do I seem to be on point with the basic outline of the plot…

    Film begins with Finn on a mission (possibly with Kylo of Phasma) and some bad stuff goes down, Finn begins to question his loyalties. Poe gets captured and interrogated, Finn sets him free and they escape, with Finn crash landing the TIE on Jakku. Where does Poe go? Presumably escaped in a different ship, off to warn the Resistance?

    Meanwhile, Rey lives as a scavenger on Jakku, eventually she bumps into Finn as Imperial forces attack, but they escape the planet in the Falcon with Han and Chewie. Biggest question is how does Han wind up on Jakku? Watching over Rey the whole time? Sent there to check on what happened to Poe? Lucky Coincidence?

    Anyways, after they escape, they go to Maz Kanata’s place. Is this to learn clues about the lightsaber, because she’s someone Han sort of trusts and is in the region so it’s a good hiding spot? Does she have information on Luke and they go to her to help track him down? They find out where to find Luke, but are interrupted. First Order tracks them and attack’s Maz’s castle, but they are rescued by Poe and Resistance forces.

    Where is Rey at this point? She’s not in the shot with Han, Chewie, and Finn putting their hands up. Maybe she’s captured elsewhere and held by Kylo (the “you’re just a scavenger?” remark from the toy? Perhaps Finn going to her rescue leads to the duel in the snow.

    Final Act, back at the Resistance base, they plan an attack on Starkiller base, while Finn goes out to confront Kylo. Presumably things don’t go well for him…Rey upset at what’s happened to her friends, sets out to find Luke’s Skelling Michael hideout, and begins her training.

    Pure speculation…Fight over Starkiller is going bad for the Resistance, but the Republic decides to intervene at saves their butts in the end. This would be where we see Ackbar, Nien Numb, etc.

    I’m sure a lot of this will be wrong, but this is how I sketched it out in my head. What do you think?

    • October 21, 2015 at 12:06 am
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      Some of iy may be wrong, but it is pretty much the general consensus on the plot outline so far.

    • October 21, 2015 at 4:47 am
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      You are forgetting why Luke and R2D2 are in the same scenary of Captain Phasma attack. Or at least it seems like that.

  • October 21, 2015 at 12:06 am
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    “Maybe the Galaxy never finds out
    that Luke redeemed Vader?”

    That’s a given. No need for Luke to make Vader’s true identity known, after the way the galaxy lost faith in the Jedi thanks to Palatine’s efforts to slander and defame the Order over more than 20 years. Nobody would trust a Jedi ever again that way.

  • October 21, 2015 at 12:31 am
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    I have to say just a few things:
    1. Kylo Ren is Adam Driver, NOT Mark Hamill
    2. The voice is Maz, not Leia.
    3. Rey is NOT Luke Skywalker’s daughter. If she is a Skywalker, it is through Leia.
    4. Of course everyone knows the history of the Jedi, but not everyone believes in “The Force”. Han Solo didn’t believe in The Force in ANH (“hokey religion”). He was a LOT closer to the time when the Jedi guarded the galaxy. Sure we have Luke and the Emperor and Vader 30 years prior, but the Force was not something everyone believed. I doubt most people at the time knew the Emperor was Force sensitive. The general on the Death Star ridiculed Vader for his “religion”. Han now knows that the Jedi not only existed, but there is a Force and there is a dark side. He has seen it and he is married to someone who is Force sensitive.
    I don’t find it so hard to believe that people were not sure about the events of ANH to ROTJ. They didn’t watch the movies. They heard “stories”, but was there really a Force? A dark side? Were the Jedi really Force sensitive?

    • October 21, 2015 at 12:59 am
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      I have a problem with number 3. When we hear Maz’s voice in the very beginning, it has an alien-like rasp to it. None of the other lines in the trailer have this, which is what makes me think that it’s Leia.

      • October 21, 2015 at 1:46 am
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        That’s definitely not Carrie Fisher. Absolutely, 100% not, in any part of the trailer.

  • October 21, 2015 at 12:34 am
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    If Rey is the daughter of one of the original cast, how could she NOT have known that the Jedi and Dark Side stories were true until this movie? How long has she been separated from them? We will have to wait to find out, I suppose.

    • October 21, 2015 at 12:38 am
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      I assume she has been separated from her biological parents from the moment she was born or shortly after that really. It remains to be explained in the movies why that was so.

      I think everything points to Rey being related to the Skywalker family. Whether she descends from Luke or Leia (and a Solo kid is interpreted to be also a “Skywalker” from a feminist point of view) , it also remains to be seen.

      • October 21, 2015 at 1:05 am
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        The way their children are treated, the Skywalkers should just not have children!

        • October 21, 2015 at 4:20 am
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          but but but, midichlorians cause immaculate conception, it’s almost impossible not to have children… 🙁

    • October 21, 2015 at 12:52 am
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      That is why this trailer has confirmed my suspicion that none of these new characters is related to the original characters. I don’t know why everyone seems to want that to be true.

      • October 21, 2015 at 3:56 am
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        The star wars films are centered around the Skywalker family. The OT is about Luke while the PT is about Anakin. It would only make sense to continue the tradition and have the ST follow the next generation of Skywalker.

        • October 21, 2015 at 7:27 pm
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          Fair point. If true, I hope the movie makes that relationship clear at the outset, instead of another “I am your father” moment, which would seem a little silly to me.

      • October 21, 2015 at 5:10 am
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        Some people are just too heavily influenced by the story of the EU’s Solo twins. But not everyone wants the same thing. I’m also convinced that none of these new characters are related to the Big Three.

      • October 21, 2015 at 8:17 am
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        Kathleen Kennedy has said that the Star Wars saga is a story about family, and that the new movies will continue the story.

        • October 21, 2015 at 7:25 pm
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          Coincidentally, I saw that Kennedy quote shortly after writing my comment. It does make me less sure. But it worries me because one of the things that bugged me about the PT is how everyone and everything was tied too perfectly to the OT.

    • October 21, 2015 at 4:27 am
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      Perhaps Rey was sent into hiding as a baby with Max Von Sydow’s character. Han could have been catching up with her when he was telling the story of the dark side and the Jedi?….

  • October 21, 2015 at 1:41 am
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    “Fantasitc opening shot”, “Brilliant matte painting”.

    Gosh, who wrote this? A 15 year old?

    • October 21, 2015 at 4:42 am
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      Yes, you can tell in the gushing praise for Daisy’s acting and how impressed he is that she is capable of displaying multiple emotions. Truly incredible. Not many actresses can. She is a rare talent with her ability to display multiple human emotions. Eat your heart out Kristen Stewart.

      • October 21, 2015 at 7:15 am
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        What does her acting have to do with the pic in question or the difference between a matte painting (which the pic in question is not) and a CGI shot ( which the pic in question is)?

        • October 21, 2015 at 7:36 am
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          I was responding to Mr Greenwood’s point which was not about whether a particular picture was matte or CGI but about the quality of at least some of this article’s captions.

  • October 21, 2015 at 1:44 am
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    Saw this figure at the store today. Odd that Luke’s mask and headgear looks very similar to Rey’s at the beginning of the trailer.

    • October 21, 2015 at 2:52 am
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      Rey has to be Luke’s daughter. Anakin, Luke and Rey all pretty much have the same outfit going on in Ep 1, 4, and 7. She’s a Skywalker!

  • October 21, 2015 at 2:42 am
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    We know that “Kylo Ren” is a name that the character gave himself after he joined the Knights of Ren. It really seems like he’s Leia and Han’s son because “Kylo” could be S(KY)walker + So(LO). So his first name marks his parentage and is meant to emphasize his claim as the heir to Anakin Skywalker.

    Rey I think is his sister. She doesn’t know that Kylo is her brother, until he unmasks himself to her, and wants her to join him. Together, he believes they can fulfill the “balance of the Force” prophesy that Qui Gon foresaw for Anakin.

    The reason why I also think they are siblings is because this ties in thematically with the idea of siblings who are strong with the Force, first raised in Return of the Jedi but which we never got a movie to see play out between Luke and Leia.

    I also think the movie poster alludes to this: Rey’s staff is perfectly in line with Kylo’s lightsaber.

    Rey has been hiding out on Jaaku because she doesn’t want to be involved with the space politics of her mother’s family. However, the Force awakens within Rey.

    So this trilogy is about two siblings, third generation Skywalkers, who are at odds with one another over the Force.

    • October 21, 2015 at 3:00 am
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      Imagine the raw emotion, feels, heavy drama as Kylo unmasks himself in the winter forest, revealing his face to Rey.

      The moment could play out like this, alluding to the way Darth Vader reached out to Luke after he cut off his hand in ESB:

      REY: Oh, n-n-no…no!

      KYLO: Together we can fulfill what was supposed to have been our grandfather’s destiny. To be the balance of the Force. Nothing will stand in our way. Join me… sister!

    • October 21, 2015 at 4:38 am
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      One of the greatest of The Empire Strikes Back was the evil character, and also the heros of course.
      I bet they want to the same with Kylo.
      Star Wars wants a strong evil character. Kylo seems to be the choosen one.

    • October 21, 2015 at 7:32 am
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      Spot on Robot

  • October 21, 2015 at 3:00 am
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    I have a new Jakku theory: Tatooine was the name given to Jakku when the Imperial Senate disbanded. When the Empire fell, Tatooine reverted back to it’s original name of Jakku. Think Burma/Myanmar. I just can’t believe that this planet could be new yet identical to Tatooine.

    • October 21, 2015 at 3:34 am
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      I bet it WAS Tatooine but Disney rethought it since Tatooine is likely to bring up bad memories of the prequels. So it was hastily changed to ‘Jakku’ even though it was intended to be Tatooine.

      • October 21, 2015 at 4:17 am
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        Yes, everyone has very bad memories of Luke staring into the sunset on Tatooine. .. oh wait!

        • October 21, 2015 at 8:25 pm
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          OK OK good point. But still – this planet seems EXACTLY like Tatooine, doesn’t it? It just smacks of studio notes to me. But I will happily admit that I could totally be wrong.

          • October 22, 2015 at 4:22 am
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            it’s a galaxy with billions of planets. Did you know that there are 116 Desert planets in the current cannon? being a desert planet isn’t that exclusive and, although I’m surprised it isn’t Tatooine (skywalker story wise) it’s good to see something different, especially since everyone on Tatooine knows the skywalkers and that would be the first place Kylo would go to look.

      • October 21, 2015 at 4:58 am
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        Guess you’ve stopped watching the OT save for TESB then. It must bring some terrible memories to you. ANH, especially.

      • October 21, 2015 at 8:13 am
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        Based on what? Geesh.

    • October 21, 2015 at 4:16 am
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      Lol, you know that Jakku has already been established as a separate planet in the cannon, right? It’s mentioned in three separate books now.

      • October 21, 2015 at 4:30 am
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        I think it’s Jakku because it was probably gonna be Tatooine originally but they filmed in Abu Dhabi instead of Tunisia and Tunisia IS Tatooine so….

        • October 21, 2015 at 4:33 am
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          Why would the filming location alter the timeline? They could’ve shot in the US and still say it’s Tatooine. This is a film, with a budget, don’t let real-world locations narrow your fantasy.

        • October 21, 2015 at 7:11 am
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          Yet Yuma AZ was Tatooine for Return of the Jedi so you’re incorrect.

          • October 21, 2015 at 11:02 am
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            That’s partially true. For what I remember mostly the close ups and action scene’s were shot at Yuma and the Dune Sea shots were taken at the Great Dune of Tunisia. But still it might have been a reason to use another planet … especially if you do not want to take shortcut’s and want to do it perfect. Maybe there were just not enough locations for shooting in Yuma and going back there would mean that people might recognize scenery from Jedi. Which is not necessarily bad, but that would mean that they might have to add Jabba’s old palace or explain why it has vanished. Also Tatooine had a lot of Imperial presence, now it almost looks like Rey doesn’t know anything about the former Empire. Which would not be possible I guess if she was raised on Tatooine.

            Oh well, whatever the reason is … Jakku is not Tatooine, and Rey is on Jakku 😉

          • October 22, 2015 at 8:32 pm
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            Nope, incorrect. The yuma locations WERE tatooine in RotJ and then again used to film added scenes for the Special Edition of Ep. 4.

    • October 21, 2015 at 4:30 am
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      I guess we would have seen the 2 suns of Tatooine. But your theory is possible, who knows? 2 months left to solve it.

      • October 21, 2015 at 4:39 am
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        It’s not possible, period.

    • October 21, 2015 at 7:10 am
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      Except that it’s called Tatooine by name in the prequels long before the Empires existence so your theory is wrong. Why is it so hard for people to grasp that there may be more than one planet with similar ecosystems?

    • October 21, 2015 at 8:12 am
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      Again.More making up story when there is no basis. Take it for what it is.

  • October 21, 2015 at 3:09 am
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    I’m intrigued by Finn. There’s the talk that his character’s arc is not like what most are expecting. There’s his possible death in the trailer, but we know he is in future films. He says he’s been raised from birth to be a fighter. We know he uses a lightsaber even though he likely has little to know Jedi training.

    I like the idea that he might be part of some sort of force-sensitive stormtrooper program.

  • October 21, 2015 at 3:23 am
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    I’m guessing the shot of Kylo and the Knights of Ren in the rain is probably from the flashback. My guess is that shot is from a raid they stage on the Jedi’s temple/school. Further speculation: they kill off the Jedi and Luke either gets there later or is forced to flee. This probably dovetails with the shot of Luke’s hand on R2 – they’re viewing the temple in flames.

    • October 21, 2015 at 8:11 am
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      You’re adding story here that has no basis in what we’ve seen.

      • October 21, 2015 at 8:24 pm
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        Well isn’t that part of being a fan?

    • October 21, 2015 at 8:23 pm
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      Seriously doubt that scenario, some reasons why:

      For Kylo, who we can assume is a character perhaps in his 20s, to have been there to wipe them out, it would’ve had to been fairly recent – I mean, that’s not a 10yo wielding that saber. So this Jedi training school would’ve been around a long time, also assuming w/Luke continuing alongside the now stronger(MUCH more well-known in galaxy) New Republic(/Resistance).

      Jedi were not most likely not ever re-established, where the galaxy would know of them again (fighting alongside Resistance/New Republic) – as apparent by Han explaining to Rey+Finn about the past (legends/myths) being “all true” – if new Jedi had been around, the galaxy would’ve known about it (vs really not having heard from them for ~50years since Order66 wiped most out).

      • October 21, 2015 at 8:24 pm
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        Good points! But something happened that stopped Luke from ‘passing on what he learned.’ I wonder what that was? Could it be Luke’s internal conflict? Or was it something like what I sketched out above?

        • October 21, 2015 at 8:36 pm
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          Agree. And don’t disagree that Luke started something, long-ago …not long after RotJ. Obeying Yoda’s dying instruction “pass on what you have learned”.
          And…that it didn’t get very far – he’d gathered some Force Sensitives (although maybe not many around, as 30yrs later is the “awakening”?), or at a minimum tried to train Leia a bit & then either his own child(unlikely, no established wife/love interested) or Han & Leia’s child(children)? [ possibly/likely Kylo? ]

          So I can imagine a scenario like you describe, including Kylo turning Dark Side (obviously he’s *there*) & against Luke/school (massacre while Luke’s away)… but just don’t think the shot in the film depicts that timing – Kylo as a youth.

          What’s go me re-thinking all this is the fact that Rey+Finn apparently don’t know about the Jedi. That as far as the galaxy is concerned – there was not “return of the Jedi”.

          I think Luke had to go into hiding/abandoned New Public/Resistance & training a long time ago…but, as you say, after something stopped him. Likely that failure was Kylo. Luke couldn’t bring himself to confront ( “need to kill” ) his family member before, he couldn’t do it now.

          Would make for some awkward holiday (Thanksgiving…Life Day?) conversations at the Solo-household:
          Leia: I want to invite my brother
          Han: No, if he AND Kylo show-up, Luke will need to kill him!

  • October 21, 2015 at 3:51 am
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    “Too much CG.” What are they supposed to do, build flying Tie Fighters?

    • October 21, 2015 at 4:39 am
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      Actually.. some of the stuff you see in this trailer are models.

  • October 21, 2015 at 4:22 am
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    I think Rey get her outfit, glasses, hat, from Teemo (L.O.L.), it is a pity her weapon is not a Blowgun!

  • October 21, 2015 at 4:26 am
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    I miss a note and caption about the Luke and R2D2 moment scene just after Captain Phasma and what seems to be in the same scenary. Is he with the First Order? or Did he arrive after the attack?

    Some lights please!
    Well I guess we will have to wait 2 months…

    • October 21, 2015 at 4:37 am
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      That was already heavily discussed in trailer #2. Judging by the pictures from production, that scene is related to Jakku.

    • October 21, 2015 at 8:13 pm
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      Agree this trailer makes is seem more like it’s part of same setting/scene – lighting, flame/fire/embers or funeral pyre?
      Could be arriving after the battle & views the aftermath?

      • October 21, 2015 at 9:06 pm
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        Also we don´t know how Dameron survive to what seems a torture from Kylo Ren. We can suppose he is rescued or liberated in some way, but we really don´t know, and why Finn seems wearing his clothes and should be after it..

        • October 21, 2015 at 9:35 pm
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          I think Poe is tortured/interrogated (scene shown), whilst on the planet they’ve attacked ( see scene where Kylo spins w/right hand out to Force-grab/pull & ignites saber lefthand – that’s the red glow ).
          Not saying doesn’t happen again (or on Stardestroyer).
          Poe & Finn are on the Stardestroyer after that attack – we see this in clips/behind-scenes at Comic-con. Poe’s still got his jacket on-board.
          Then… I think it’s safe to puzzle that they escape together & crash back on Jakku. Finn’s in Trooper outfit initially, but seen later w/Finn’s jacket. Think he pulls it off Poe’s body, assuming he’s dead?, to disguise himself after he’s removed Trooper armor (seen arriving at place where Rey hangs-out).

          • October 22, 2015 at 4:44 am
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            Yes, I am talking about that scene in Comic-con too.
            But remember they meet in the rebel base later and Finn is wearing the jacket already. Poe looks perfectly healthy.
            That made me wonder if Poe surrender, became a mol, and he never had met Finn, just Finn took his clothes to scape.
            But in the encounter in the base, it seems they know each other, isnt it?
            For a moment I watched like they didn´t know and Finn looked at him thiking… “mmm this face sounds familiar…”
            But looking it again it seems they really know each other.

          • October 22, 2015 at 4:50 am
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            I see where you’re going with that, perhaps an angle where Poe became a mole (tortured to do/say something).
            But pretty certain they met & knew ea other (most likely Finn helped Poe escape?).
            Re: clothes
            I gotta say that if a Stormtrooper wanted to escape an Imperial base, stealing a (Rebel)Resistance fighters clothes doesn’t sound the best idea to sneak out. ;)~
            More like – hey guys…I’m taking a TIE fighter out on partrol, be back in a bit (yeah right!).

            Will be interesting to see how this plays out w/these two characters. Maybe some playful competition/teasing/rivalry between them like Luke & Han.

          • October 22, 2015 at 5:02 am
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            Well, this is the chronological order of images I am wondering:
            1.Finn as a stormtrooper.
            2.Poe captured.
            3.Poe tortured.
            4.Finn scaped wearing his stromtrooper clothes in the desert.
            5.Finn in the desert wearing Poe jacket, later meeting Rey.
            6.Poe and Finn meeting in the rebel Base, we can see Millenium Falcon behind them.

            May be Poe scaped when the First Order destroyer bridge blow up. Who knows?
            Yes all we think about a Han/Luke pair, but why repeat the scheme?
            And also they have presented the 3 of them as the 3 new good guys, so the mole theory would imply: “hey this people have been playing us in the movie presentations” not really cool, isnt it?

  • October 21, 2015 at 4:45 am
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    In the photo above of the Knights of Ren, is it possible that the second character from the right is Rey with her staff? Was she formerly a Knight? It could explain the question we heard from the action figure sample where Kylo Ren sounds disappointed in what has become of Rey(Sorry, don’t remember the exact quote).

    Would also make for great conflict and history between the two.

    • October 21, 2015 at 4:53 am
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      The quotes from Kylo seem to be interrogating Rey, along the lines of “Are you sure you’re just a scavenger?” ..

      • October 21, 2015 at 5:09 am
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        I found the quote: “Is it true? You’re just a scavenger?”

        Kylo sounds either as if he’s disappointed Rey has fallen from a previous, higher station (maybe a Knight), or he’s simply shocked that she’s so accomplished for someone who’s only a scavenger.

        I just felt that it appeared that the aforementioned character above had a slightly feminine physique and also carries what looks to be a weapon that is VERY similar to Rey’s staff.

        But you’re probably right. I might be reading way too much into it.

        I think those comments by the film’s cast that we, the fans, were wrong about our plot synopses has caused me to look for the unexpected.

        • October 21, 2015 at 5:23 am
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          I think a lot of people look waayyyyy to deep into this and some people just like to project their fanboyism and fantasies on something they should just accept at face value.

          Creating these kinds of “interesting backstories” based on a trailer is just going to make you feel disappointed when you’re watching the movie.

          Use a clear analytical mind and judge the trailer based on EVIDENCE, not on SPECULATION and you’ll enjoy the movie a hell of a lot more than those fanboys crying about how Kylo is not trying to revive Darth Plageious.. or whatever.

          • October 21, 2015 at 7:16 am
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            Oh, I’ll definitely judge this film solely on its merits. I’ll have no preconceived notions of what this film SHOULD be — and I’d caution that you do the same.

            My post was simply fun CONJECTURE about a possible plot twist on a web site that is literally dedicated to, and filled with, fun CONJECTURE.

            I mean, if not here, where? Right?

        • October 21, 2015 at 8:10 am
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          Yes. I think you are reading way too much in to it. I doubt very, very seriously she was a Knight of Ren.

    • October 21, 2015 at 12:43 pm
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      The dialogues with Han and Maz make it clear that Rey knows nothing about the force, the Jedi or the dark side. That rules out any theories that Rey was once a Ren or a Jedi apprentice.

      • October 22, 2015 at 1:44 am
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        Good point.

        • October 22, 2015 at 1:51 am
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          Just curious, here: But has it officially been stated that all the Knights are force-sensitive?

      • October 22, 2015 at 1:49 am
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        Just curious here: But has it officially been stated that all the Knights are force-sensitive?

    • October 21, 2015 at 8:11 pm
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      If you look at a hi-res still frame of that character, it’s NOT a staff but a bladed weapon (w/2 red lights on the blade).

      • October 22, 2015 at 2:09 am
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        Not sure we’re seeing the same character. The one I’m referencing is behind and to the right of Kylo. When I’ve watched the footage, I didn’t notice the lights you mentioned.

        Also the staff-like weapon that Knight is carrying is approximate to the height of the one Rey carries.

        Just thought it seemed unusual to have a possible side character (the Knight) have such a similar weapon to the one the heroine of the story uses (if, in fact, it does turn out to be similar.) I say this as Star Wars tends to give iconic weapons to their leads to make them stand apart from each other: Luke had a sabre distinguished from the others by its color; Vader was distinguished by his red sabre and armor(?); Han and Chewie have their distinct blasters; Boba has a unique blaster and armor; Maul had a disticnt saber, as well as Kylo, etc.

        Of course, I’m fully aware that I may be way off base in suggesting any of this, but it’s fun nevertheless.

        • October 22, 2015 at 2:51 am
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          You should download the 1080p .mov file ( there are links in the Cantina forums ).
          Watch it slo-mo (frame by frame) & you’ll see it’s not a staff but rather a (vibro-)blade/axe/pike?

          Will try to upload a pic I annotated (in forums) but don’t know if the resolution/detail will come through.

          Agree about the distinct weapons, but just clearing up that’s not a staff/similar to what Rey carries.

          See attached pic.

          • October 22, 2015 at 3:08 am
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            Thanks for taking the time to post this, DougP. I see it much better now in that photo. Never spotted the blade before (obviously).

            If all the Knights are force-sensitive/dark side, I wonder why the apparent lack of traditional lightsabers. Kylo has at least two in the photo, according to other commenters. Is it that the technology or parts are hard to come by?

          • October 22, 2015 at 3:14 am
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            Ignore that last sentence. Just realized Kylo’s makeshift-looking sabre makes it clear that not everyone has the knowledge or means to manufacture these.

          • October 22, 2015 at 3:39 am
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            Obviously I don’t know anything for certain about that scene/those characters.
            Guesses could be [*spoiler-territory speculation*]:
            1) Kylo’s a former student of Luke, turned Dark side, returned to destroy Luke’s other students/temple ( I don’t buy this time-line with that photo )
            2) (rumor) Kylo is supposedly seeking Jedi/Sith artifacts: Vader’s helmet shown in trailers, possibly the mask he’s wearing, Luke’s saber – if that’s a saber & someone else’s – could be one he sought-out (just took off dead body?)

            Re: Sabers (lack-there-of) & making them
            Yeah, according to SW “canon” both are issues:
            1) Finding a/the crystal the drives it = rare
            2) Skills to build one = only a fully trained & competent in Force can install crystal/align things so it works
            So sabers are supposed to be rare & hard to make.
            These guys could be either:
            1) Not yet fully trained student’s of Luke’s (turned Dark Side following Kylo)
            2) Some other Force sensitives Kylo’s hunted down & training – neither skill/resource yet to build own sabers

            Anyhow… hope this fan rambling might be interesting.
            We’re all just speculating so far.
            Will be interesting to see who this group of 7 is ( *spoiler/leak* territory – there’s a rumored “7 baddies”, possibly Knights of Ren ).

          • October 22, 2015 at 4:11 am
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            Thanks again. Appreciate the catch-up on the Knights of Ren rumors.

            And yeah, it’s all interesting speculation. Makes for a good read.

  • October 21, 2015 at 4:52 am
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    Wouldn’t it be cool if The forest moon of Endor got destroyed, so we don’t have to worry about wookies in the ST? This way we’ll also have some nice emotional reasons for the legacy cast and Poe to be pissed off.

    • October 21, 2015 at 5:07 am
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      Ewoks you mean right?

      • October 21, 2015 at 5:19 am
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        Yes, I blame a lack of coffee

        • October 21, 2015 at 10:57 am
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          You go have your coffee, mister Behindmountain.

    • October 21, 2015 at 5:13 am
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      Well, you already have a wookie to worry about in the ST. Chewie has been featured heavily in the trailers.

      • October 21, 2015 at 5:19 am
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        yeah, ewoks, fml, not enough coffee

  • October 21, 2015 at 4:55 am
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    Oh damn so it’s true! They had to resort to the old blowing up the world with a giant laser schtick? I’ll take that in Austin Powers but seriously? Another giant frickin laser? How many giant frickin lasers destroying the world films have they made now? Even just since the original Star Wars?

    • October 21, 2015 at 5:28 am
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      would you rather have the suck the air out of an atmosphere then?

      • October 21, 2015 at 5:43 am
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        Hmmm, with some kind of giant vacuum cleaner perhaps? That sounds diabolical. You may be on to something.

        • October 21, 2015 at 5:48 am
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          what if the new Star Destroyers are actually transformers?

          • October 21, 2015 at 6:11 am
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            That is genius. Now we just need some dude in blue and red underwear flying around punching the giant robots in space.

          • October 21, 2015 at 10:56 am
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            And some rich dude dressed up like a bat, who is part of the Knights of Ren.

    • October 21, 2015 at 5:57 am
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      Art still reflecting reality I guess. Some idiot humans at the top of hierarchies still insist on building weapons of mass destruction – even on their own worlds.

      Don’t forget the U.S. and Russian governments both retain smallpox strains and would probably jump at having powerful lasers in space!!

      • October 21, 2015 at 6:15 am
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        It does give the new film the opportunity to better the original in providing real gravitas to the giant frickin laser. I always thought they blew off Alderaan a bit too easy. Home planet gets blown up and 10 minutes later Leia is making short jokes with stormtroopers.

  • October 21, 2015 at 6:18 am
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    Really hope I’m wrong, but I can’t reconcile the similarities between many of the shots in this with the same style in Star Trek. I see Kylo and those Ren guys, I think of the Klingons in Into Darkness, I see that rushed camera movement and red glowing bridge and I reference the same ene in ST. That scene of Windows exploding,…..the same scene in ST. Sigh

    • October 21, 2015 at 10:28 am
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      Well there will be similarities, these 2 movies have the same director. 2 paintings by Picasso will look the same as well. It’s better to look a bit more like STID than to look like Ep.1-3 (which are not tooo bad, although they could use a re-render using today’s technology).

  • October 21, 2015 at 6:30 am
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    What if….. Luke Skywalker created the Knights of Ren? Perhaps he started it as a way to teach the Jedi ways and start an exclusive group for good when Kylo decided to break off after being seduced by Snoke? This could explain the shot of Luke in the second teaser, dressed in black, touching R2. This shot could be Luke saddened by Kylo’s betrayal. And, I believe we have not seen Luke’s face nor his picture on the official poster because perhaps he has a prosthetic on part of his face from a previous injury…..

    • October 21, 2015 at 8:02 am
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      Yeah, was thinking about that too. Maybe the Knights of Ren were originally to be trained as a Jedi by Luke, but something went horribly wrong. Maybe that led Luke to his exile.

      • October 21, 2015 at 8:09 am
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        I’m sticking to our stories. I think you’re right….

    • October 21, 2015 at 8:04 pm
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      Re: “shot could be Luke saddened by Kylo’s betrayal”
      You’re right, seems definitely saddened, the way he puts his hand on R2.

      There’s also glow & looks like cinders from a fire flying – funeral fire/dead body(bodies) he’s looking on.

      • October 22, 2015 at 2:24 pm
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        Could it be that Kylo slaughters the rest of them? Thats when Luke realises he’s failed as a master. Thats what drives him into exile as he’s scared of the damage he’s already caused?
        Its only later when Rey becomes in danger that Luke is pulled from exile to save her and train her to defeat Kylo?!?!!?

    • October 23, 2015 at 2:31 am
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      The knights of Ren in the trailer don’t appear to all be force users. And they all seem to be holding different types of weapons. They are all probably bad asses in their own right of course. But they look more like a gang.

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    My Theory is that Kylo and Rey are the Solo kids separated just like Luke and Leah to keep the empire from knowing. Kylo turns to the dark side and Han has to go back to rescue Rey before he loses her as well. Rey is taken to Luke to learn the Force to stop her brother like Luke had to stop his father. Pretty simple. And Han and Lea holding each other sadly is either about Kylo turning dark or possibly the Death of Chewie

    • October 21, 2015 at 8:38 am
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      Looks like Han and Leia are hugging at the Resistance Base, and we know there were leaked pictures of Adam Driver in x-wing pilot garb. That is why he has to wear the mask, in my opinion: to conceal his true identity. If he is really Han & Leia’s son, she could be upset about him going off to battle. Just a possibility.

      • October 21, 2015 at 6:10 pm
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        if Driver does start off as a Resistance pilot could that figure as to how he lures Dameron in and then tortures him?

    • October 21, 2015 at 4:01 pm
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      Very interesting and plausible theory, but what is the reason to seperate the kids, when the empire was actually beaten, back then?

  • October 21, 2015 at 7:51 am
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    in the scene where the xwing is doing a low sweep towards the water while chasing the tie fighter, the tie fighter is shooting from the rear… these ties are going to be deadly.

  • October 21, 2015 at 8:00 am
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    So Rey is still dressed on desert garb on the snow planet? I guess they did not have time to stop at a shopping planet..

  • October 21, 2015 at 10:24 am
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    I’m actually wondering about ‘WHAT’ did Vader start? What side project unknown to Palpatine did Vader have? I mean, until now Vader looked like Sidious’s puppet. And how does Kylo Ren know about this side project, when Vader got killed he was not even conceived yet? Looking forward to the answers.

    But then again those lines might not even be part of that scene.

    • October 21, 2015 at 3:57 pm
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      Vader’s “mission” was to wipe out Jedi, no? Maybe that is what Kylo Ren wants finish?

      • October 21, 2015 at 7:57 pm
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        As Darth Mickey said (above), that was Palpatine’s truly – Vader was a tool he used/manipulated.

        Vader’s (Anakin’s) reason for pursuing the power of the Force/Dark Side, his “mission” if you will, was to change the future & save his wife – get ultimate power/control of the Force, including power over life/death/creation(?). I haven’t seen much of the “Clone Wars” or read too many of the books, but I understand this was in line with the dark lord who recruited+trained Palpatine, Darth Plagueis?

    • October 21, 2015 at 5:06 pm
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      Wiping out the Rebels/Resistance. Duh.

      • October 21, 2015 at 6:12 pm
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        True, that’s was also my first thought. But Darth didn’t really start that did he? It was Sidious who started that with order 66. Vader just executed that order. But sure, it could be that simple … but it would make the plot too thin I think, would be better imho if Vader had some side project.

        • October 21, 2015 at 7:54 pm
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          Vader’s *mission*, at least his reason for turning to the Dark Side, was to save his wife!
          He was seeking *power* over death, ultimate power to control, some such.

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            You think Kylo Ren knows that about Padme? Very few people knew Anakin was Vader, much less that he was married.
            There doesn’t have to be a side project or alternate plot twist.

          • October 21, 2015 at 8:44 pm
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            Not Padme – the topic was Vader’s “mission”/”purpose”.

            Defeating Rebels/Resistance was NOT his purpose-in-life/driver/motivation.
            He wanted ultimate power, power over life&death – in PT it showed he thought if he had “all the power” he could rule the galaxy/make things perfect.
            His fear of not having control, losing what he loved, drove him to the Dark Side.
            Palpatine tempted him, telling him of the master who had power over life&death ( some ‘ultimate’ control of the Force ), who was his master ( Darth Plagueis ).
            Vader turned to follow *that* path – it was his reason/purpose for turning Dark Side…. NOT driven to just stop some rebels, as they didn’t even exist when he went down his path.

            This topic comes from the dialogue “I’ll finish what you started” – think about it, Vader didn’t start the Empire (destruction of Jedi/rule of power) nor start the battling against the Rebels. If Kylo was saying that to a statue of Palpatine, the answer “defeating Rebel” might make a bit more sense.

          • October 22, 2015 at 5:00 am
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            Sorry. I just think you are creating something that isn’t there. Sure, we all know the back story and motivations of the characters, but the people in this world didn’t see the movies like us. They don’t know what we know. If Kylo idolizes Vader, it can be as simple as finishing the destruction of the Jedi and the Rebellion/Resistance. It doesn’t have to be a new contrived twist.

          • October 22, 2015 at 5:20 am
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            I get what you’re saying. I’m hoping there’s not some contrived twist. It is JJ tho’, so who knows.

            Just saying if Kylo is the obsessed-history-buff as indicated – saying Vader “started it” would be off/odd.
            “Complete what you could not” maybe?
            We also don’t really know who he’s speaking to. The order of scenes & dialogue could be (& is likely) misdirection.
            We’ll see how it plays out…

        • October 21, 2015 at 8:58 pm
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          The thing is while it may be Sidious’s order, to the masses it was Vader doing it. Starting at the Jedi Temple is quite a statement, even if he’s following orders.

    • October 21, 2015 at 7:53 pm
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      Re: “those lines might not even be part of that scene”
      I think that it’s just as likely he’s not really saying that to Vader’s helmet. Could be, but I think there’s misdirection/representation on the voice-overs & characters/scenes shown.

      Luke –
      Could to said to Luke? Finish re-training Jedi/Force users Luke gave up on after bad turn?
      Seeking something deeper+darker in the Force ( “the source of the Dark Side”, *spoilers* – mentioned in new official book “Aftermath” )?

      Then again… would be interesting to find out Vader had something else going we weren’t aware of in OT. If that’s the case I hope it doesn’t re-write history like the PT did. I’m already bothered a bit by the huge expansion of things, mostly to just build more stories – apparently the Jedi weren’t wiped out, lots still around (as many as they need to keep making side movies/TV shows), Force sensitives in so many roles – Inquisitors, Knights of Ren, Force-magic objects/places everywhere. For me it really dilutes things.

  • October 21, 2015 at 12:26 pm
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    so fin is landos son when you see klyo in trailer he blows up cloud city fin escapes crashes meets ray she then goes running to daddy aka han tells him about the new super weapon tie fighters come chase them off thats were han tells them its all true jedi and shit were u see her crying thats over fins body she takes up her uncles saber embraces the focre

    • October 21, 2015 at 3:51 pm
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      Maybe Lando and Leia did get together in some sleezy hotel… 😉

      • October 21, 2015 at 4:02 pm
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        THAT would be cool to watch!

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          Degenerate.

  • October 21, 2015 at 12:28 pm
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    han and leia hugging thats coz their daughter is going down same path as them 30 years ago

  • October 21, 2015 at 12:44 pm
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    if you listen to the music in the trailer, the first recognizable theme is han and leia’s theme…and its when rey is speaking and asking han if the stories are all true….i think this might be a hint to who rey is related to….just saying.

  • October 21, 2015 at 12:54 pm
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    1) It’s amazing how much work has been put to this, it actually shows, especially in the visuals. JJ was very smart when he decided to have space battles in the atmosphere. There is nothing more intimidating than the screech of tie fighters above your head, especially if you are a fan. That fact alone made it so much more real for me. These are actual fighters, you can see them in the sky, not just in space. JJ knew how much more organic and lived in the galaxy felt in the originals and he capitalized on that. He didn’t just bring back the feeling of the OT, he broke through it and touched another level. Really brilliant. Bravo.

    2) The feels, so many feels! When Leia and Han hugged something broke inside me, really nice, it seems JJ will also nail the sentimental part that was a big part of the OT. It really touches most of us on that fundamental child part which is a very good sign.

    3) The only part of it that is still in the air is the story itself. The fact that Luke is not part of the commerical campaign tells us that he will certainly be used as a plotting device that will bring us to Episode 8 with relative ease. I just hope JJ does a good job at the story front because truth be told, neither stunning visuals nor the perfect atmosphere can ever replace a good plot.

    4) I saw Boyega and Ridley’s reactions to the trailer. When even the actors who were in the movie are freaked out, what are we, the fans, are supposed to act like?

    • October 21, 2015 at 2:45 pm
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      Maybe JJ is uncomfortable with the SW “noise in space” tradition and wants to make the battle more realistic by having noise, explosions and falling debris in the atmosphere of a planet as it should be the case according to the laws of physics. But, then, the “force” also defies the laws of physics, so go figure.

      • October 21, 2015 at 10:10 pm
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        Because proper physics clearly bothered him so much on two ST films.

      • October 22, 2015 at 12:07 am
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        True, however I think that JJ just wanted to please both the old and the new fans. The old fans want old fashioned. The new fans more cgi. You can’t do both and expect the mix to be of quality. You have to give an actual and good reason for your props being there instead of a good cgi (something Lucas never bothered to do with the PT by the way).

        So JJ thought hey! To please them both I will make it more real by changing not the means but the environment! The environment of the battle will be my reason for doing such a props- cgi combination. And from what I’ve seen it works beautifully.

        The sounds in space is a common secret of shame of all sci-fi films. However It doesn’t make scientific sense and it doesn’t have to, its a movie about space wizards for crying out loud! Also it would be lame for SW to go that way with generations of fans accustomed to that sound work.

    • October 21, 2015 at 3:47 pm
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      I think we won’t see Luke until the end of the movie. My thoughts are that lots of people are looking for him and in the end, when Finn is (apparently) down after the fight with Kylo Ren, Luke will do some serious asswhooping and take them, Rey and Finn, with him to teach them the ways of the Force.

      I am especioally curious who Kylo is. What is his motivation? Is he a sKYwalker-soLO (Ky-lo)? Is Rey his sister? At San Diego Comic Con, Adam Driver told us at the panel that Kylo is not so much an evil character, but he mioght have a shifted perception of what is good or evil. Maybe he thinks that the ‘work’ he does, is the right thing to do, which might seem evil to others. I hope that he will eventually shift to to light side.

      • October 21, 2015 at 7:44 pm
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        *IF* Luke confronts Kylo at the end, imho… the only way Kylo wouldn’t wind up in tiny pieces would be if he’s related to Luke, who can’t bring himself to kill him. Similarly, Luke was confronted w/facing his other relative & admitted to Yoda/Ben he couldn’t kill his own blood.

      • October 21, 2015 at 11:57 pm
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        Indeed. I believe Kylo has good in him and it shows. He seems to be fanatic, not a true believer, there is a difference. Also he is not Sith. Sith are relentless, absolute. Kylo has a sense of purpose that the other Sith lords of the cannon simply lacked so far. The fact that he can perceive that purpose tells us that he is a strategist, not a mindless engine of mayhem. He has logic, passion and most importantly, some level of anxiety, something to prove to himslef and to the rest of the Knights of Ren, all of these make him so much more human than Vader and the Emperor who were monsters. And logic is negotiable and debatable. Therefore yes, I believe he will come to the Light or at least start to operate as a Force in Balance character.

        Yes, Luke is very likely to be the one to save everyone’s asses in the end. A lightsaber wielding stormtrooper against a powerful dark side force user? There is no contest, poor Finn is bound to have mechanical parts on him in Episode 8 (which is so cool because african americans look so good with cybernetc parts and I say that with abslute racial neutrality, it;’s a fact, they just look awesome).

        Rey, oh my god, Rey is the force user! Lupita’s characters says it on the voiceover of the trailer! I am now 99% sure that she will be the Awakening and Finn will be the second one to awake the Force in the movie. But that’s just me tell me what you think.

        Kylo and Rey are siblings if not twins. You can tell by the poster, Kylo’s doll “Is it true? You are just a scarvenger?”. It fits. Also remember, Star Wars works in circles coming full and starting all over again. Twins being seperated? Yeah, the cycle goes on!

        • October 25, 2015 at 1:45 am
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          I like the way you think! Eitjes way, this movie is gonna rock! Got tickets for the 16th!!! Woohoo, so pumped!

          • October 25, 2015 at 3:53 pm
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            The hype is real my friend! I am also pumped, I will be going into that cinema with a huge stupid smile on my face and people will believe that I will be on drugs and I will not care as if I indeed was on drugs! That’s how much I love SW.

  • October 21, 2015 at 1:11 pm
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    How do you know that’s a matte painting inside that Star Destroyer? Just curious. Couldn’t it be a cgi thing?

    • October 21, 2015 at 10:08 pm
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      Digital matte painting. You rough in the geometry in 3D, then digitally paint on that. Bit of a misnomer, but it is the term that’s been adopted industry-wide.

  • October 21, 2015 at 1:35 pm
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    Lack of space battle is disturbing for me, it is after all Star Wars.

    • October 21, 2015 at 4:53 pm
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      I have noticed that too. But there should be space battles. Don’t worry. The whole idea is both Kylo Ren’s group and the current empire have weapons on planets that can destroy planets/Solar Systems and must be destroyed.

    • October 22, 2015 at 3:23 am
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      I feel they are saving it for a grad finale in epiisode 9. By keeping the focus small in the first film they have room to grow and become more explosive in the later episodes. Its a fair decision, not the one i want but fair

  • October 21, 2015 at 2:14 pm
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    In the still shot above of Han & Leia it seems like the background has been blurred a little. It also looks like there is someone watching them. I can’t imagine that on the big screen they would leave so much of the background so out of focus. No matter how touching the moment in the foreground is. So would it be reasonable to assume that there is more going on in this shot

  • October 21, 2015 at 2:19 pm
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    The last line, “the force, it’s calling you. Just let it in” – I have a theory that it is actually aimed at Luke… that cut himself from the force and went into exile because of something “kylo turning to the dark side”? and now the good guys need him back.

    • October 21, 2015 at 2:31 pm
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      I don’t think so. Maz’s words suggest she is taliking to a novice in the ways of the force, most likely Rey (or Finn, if the trailer is meant to intentionally mislead us, but I still think it is Rey).

    • October 21, 2015 at 4:34 pm
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      More proof that Maz Kanata is Luke’s Jedi-Wife.

  • October 21, 2015 at 3:15 pm
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    I may not be correct, then again I may be absolutely spot on. Did anyone notice for a split secont before Rey pulls back the curtain at the start of the Trailer, there are holes of light appearing through the curtain which looks like a Star field? Dont be surpised if that shot is the opening scene after the Text scroll

    • October 21, 2015 at 3:38 pm
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      All the other Star Wars movies started with space, and then tilting the camera to a planet, after the opening crawl. I don’t thing JJ will break that tradition.

      • October 21, 2015 at 4:24 pm
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        I don’t think it would be a bad start to the movie, especially since it’s an introduction to a new charcter… Better than Cg gophers!

        • October 21, 2015 at 4:43 pm
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          I’d like to give you more than one up vote, but I can’t.

          • October 21, 2015 at 10:53 pm
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            Thanks Mongo. It must be hard being an innocent in the big game of life!

    • October 21, 2015 at 8:43 pm
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      Maybe its a swipe from the opening starfield to Rey.

  • October 21, 2015 at 3:40 pm
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    So I think it is clear, both Rey and Finn, have no knowledge of the force, or how to use a lightsaber… besides stories/rumors/legends. I don’t know why people keep suggesting their back stories include those items. At least one of them is force sensitive probably Rey, Finn is shown with a lightsaber… but probably only because he was born and raised to be a storm trooper, so fighting is something he is comfortable with so he naturally takes the lead… only he gets it handed to him by Kylo Ren. It is possible he is force sensitive without knowledge of it… which is maybe why he flees/is betrayed by the First Order if Kylo Ren really is hunting down and killing force sensitive individuals as has been suggested before (possibly Vader’s unfinished work)… and decides Finn needs to go.

    • October 21, 2015 at 7:33 pm
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      I think it would be a creative choice, but I don’t think they would break tradition right off the bat. It would make a really cool transition between scenes though.

      That reminds me, did the prequels use the classic side swipes between scenes? I have only seen each prequel film once and do not plan on revisiting.

    • October 22, 2015 at 3:18 am
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      yes! my guess is he feels the pain of the victims through the force heightening empathy

  • October 21, 2015 at 4:38 pm
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    I have a feeling the knights or Ren were inspired by the ring wraiths from LOTR. Just an opinion.

    • October 21, 2015 at 11:29 pm
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      Yes it is true.. Luke just fell off a cliff and the heroes spend the whole movie looking for him, only to find his skeleton!

      Whoa the plot twist, lol

    • October 22, 2015 at 1:09 am
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      Isn’t that Luke putting his metal hand on R2?

  • October 21, 2015 at 4:49 pm
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    I really loved the music in this trailer. I thought the play on “Han and Leia’s Romance” theme was really clever, also I liked their implementation of “Binary Sunset”, there was some clever tweaks on the chords in there, a couple of majors where there used to be minors. Overall, a very clever revival of old themes.

    As suggested below, I’m wondering if Han and Leia’s romance will be integral to the plot? All this music has meaning, and I’m doubtful that’s lost on John Williams, I’m betting the song carries more weight than first thought.

    I do think that Luke is a Hero in this movie, because Binary Sunset was always the theme of Obiwan’s tutelage-dynasty in my mind, so to have what is essentially Luke’s life-mission’s theme song playing so dominantly suggests to me that his life mission is still in full effect.
    If Luke were evil, they would have been playing the Binary Sunset in a minor diminished or something, or even a mutation that is effectively Luke’s Sith-Song.
    But that’s not what they did.
    What they did was up-play what Luke was about in the OT.

    • October 23, 2015 at 1:43 am
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      Han and Leia’s theme in the trailer possibly hints that Rey is their child.

  • October 21, 2015 at 4:55 pm
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    Is this the final trailer ? Will their be more TV’s spots before the movie opens that may answer the questions everyone on this thread is talking about ?

    • October 21, 2015 at 5:22 pm
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      I wouldn’t doubt we see snippets of what we have already seen. If they do a last week push with new stuff I can wait a week to see the movie.

  • October 21, 2015 at 5:23 pm
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    In the rumored flashback, maybe the Knights of Ren wipe out the Jedi academy. Luke shows up late and kills them all except Kylo. Flirting with the dark side he decides to exile himself.

  • October 21, 2015 at 7:45 pm
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    I know there are Rumors that Luke maybe be a Bad Guy in TFA. But Adam Driver is clearly inside Kylo Ren. But one has to question. Why was Luke left out of the Poster?

    • October 21, 2015 at 11:27 pm
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      Maybe because he just plays some small part in the end, thoguh it doesn’t mean that’d be as bad as the “Luke receives lightsaber before end credits” stupid rumor.

      I imagine he should be the turning point in the conclusion of the story. In that case, he wouldn’t need to be represented on the poster.

      • October 22, 2015 at 12:09 am
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        I am sure he will play a larger role in Episode 8. Hope to see him training new Jedi the ways of the force.

    • October 22, 2015 at 3:10 am
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      I think he’s bit the dust. Ghosts have a welcome place in star wars. the leaked image is super heavenly in imagery. I think the big reveal is he is gone but will help our heroes as obi helped luke

    • October 23, 2015 at 5:40 pm
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      i think they left Luke out because they can, and it messes with us. Remember, two more films. It also shows, despite the love for Han Solo and the presence of Harrison Ford (who will carry this film, it seems), Luke Skywalker is still the hero, the Jedi.

      Brilliant strategy to leave him out of poster. If he appears at the end to save the day, do we need that finale even hinted at?

      • October 23, 2015 at 6:17 pm
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        Brilliant. I think thats exactly what they are going for here. I bet we dont see Rey with a light saber til Ep8 and 9. Whats interesting is they are casting another brown eye brown hair female for the lead in EP8. I hope Finn does have force powers and Luke trains him.

  • October 21, 2015 at 7:46 pm
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    Kylo and Rey are children of Han and Leia

  • October 21, 2015 at 8:17 pm
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    Remember that fan trailer “If George Lucas redid the Force Awakens teaser” where they inserted a million tie fighters coming towards the camera?

    Kinda reminds me of a scene in this full trailer with a million CG tie fighters swarming Takodana.

    I just had to laugh.

    • October 21, 2015 at 11:18 pm
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      Indeed… That battle scene on the planet that looks like some place in Canada was far too reminiscent of the completely forgettable “Battle of Kasshyyk”. I really hope this won’t be as Prequel Trilogy as these quick shots look like.

      • October 22, 2015 at 3:05 am
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        I shared that worry. the shot of BB8 in the x wing however looks promising. it looks like its noticing a cloud of tie fighters on the horizon as if to say ‘oh snap the heat is here’ already that is more drama than the old prequel cut to chaos approach. I think we will have an amazing sequence to get the kids excited mixed with some WW2 style ‘here they come!’

  • October 21, 2015 at 8:27 pm
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    PSA: Star Wars is not made with just cinephiles in mind; it’s made for the masses/general population.

    That is all!

  • October 21, 2015 at 8:34 pm
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    Someone had a very good observation about the Knights of Ren standing in the rain. It echoed a scene from “The Seven Samurai”, directed by Lucas’s idol, Akira Kurosawa. I looked up the movie, and the seven samurai were called “ronin”, which are “masterless samurai”. Maybe “Ren” is a derivative of “ronin”, and the Knights are masterless knights of the dark side. (Jedi was derived from jidaigeki, a Japanese historical drama.)

    • October 21, 2015 at 9:33 pm
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      Agreed. Definitly nod to a brutal battle in the rain from Seven Samurai. Besides, far left knight is said to resemble certain bounty hunter.

  • October 21, 2015 at 11:20 pm
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    Are we gonna have actually imaginative, inspired music like in the OT, or it’s gonna be the same lame, dubious stuff we’ve had in the PT? The soundtrack in that trailer is fine, though there’s nothing groundbreaking in there. Of course, that’s just a damn trailer, and not the movie.

    I hope John Williams talents did not wane, and the guy attempted to create the last great masterpiece of his carreer.

    • October 22, 2015 at 1:18 am
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      The music for the trailer was done done by John Williams!!

    • October 22, 2015 at 2:58 am
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      There was a lot of good John williams music in the prequels. The clone wars main theme was one of the best thing about the movie. This trailer was not Williams and it sort of shows despite being pretty good. I’m hoping he will give some classic motifs with a more cautious self doubting tone as in empire. To expect the imperial march as a standard is being unreasonable in expectations but i understand the music of star wars is incredibly important.

    • October 22, 2015 at 12:17 pm
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      what do you want? the wheel reinvented?

  • October 22, 2015 at 1:11 am
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    Is that Luke with the metal hand on R2? I keep hearing people ask where Luke is. Looks like Luke to me.

  • October 22, 2015 at 1:33 am
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    Notice that Chewie is NOT with the trio walking into the temple adorned with the flags………..so is that temple the one in the depicted battle or a second one that they end up at the end of the movie?

    • October 22, 2015 at 11:12 am
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      That “temple” with the droid is most probably Maz Kanata’s castle, which will be destroyed later on in the movie. Chewie could be guarding the Falcon for all that we know.

      • October 22, 2015 at 6:55 pm
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        That’s the other possibility I was thinking about.

  • October 22, 2015 at 7:33 am
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    Kylo Ren isn’t wearing a helmet in the last shot…

    • October 22, 2015 at 11:11 am
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      Correct. I assume they know eachother, so he reveals himself to Finn. Perhaps that’s why Finn looks terrified in that last shot.

      • October 22, 2015 at 12:01 pm
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        I assume Rey knows him and she is with Finn. It’s the same scene as when she is with the injured (dead?) body, perhaps its Finn and she is mad about her brother (cousin?)

  • October 22, 2015 at 8:57 am
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    I’m really excited about the movie, and I expect to be very happy with the end-product. The ONLY criticism I have so far is Abrams’ over-use of the sweeping camera and slow zooms. That isn’t typical Star Wars style.

  • October 22, 2015 at 3:32 pm
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    What did Vader start the Kylo Ren must finish? Palpatine claimed he was attacked and scarred by the Jedi, perhaps he never revealed himself to be a Sith. Vader was openly mocked by Imperial commanders in ANH. Obviously he was used a heavy, possibly kept away from the Senate and Coruscant until his personal quest to convert Luke took hold. Vader therefore was the last known Sith, felled by the last known Jedi. The Emperor, to Kylo Ren, is probably irrelevant. Kylo Ren knows of the Sith as the opposite to the Jedi, and perhaps he sees the Jedi as evil (as per official Imperial propaganda). From the trailer he is angry, brutal and driven. ‘Immune to the light’ suggests he does not have Vader’s Achilles heel. Has he been schooled in the Dark Side form a young age then, neither converted nor conflicted? He seems to be pure rage, and an idealist. Everything he knows of Vader is also a lie. Was he abandoned like Rey, who is Snoke and what happened to these kids? All adds up to well-written tale, familiar but different.

    • October 22, 2015 at 7:13 pm
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      There is no doubt Kylo Ren is an idealist, but that doesn’t acquit him. Most SS officers in Nazi Germany were also “idealists” and were doing “the right thing” from their point of view, but, from a more objective prospective, they were still evil.

      I am intrigued why Kylo is not wearing his helmet in the last shot and I am also curious to know his life story and how he came to be who he is now.

      • October 23, 2015 at 1:17 am
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        Yes, I don’t feel redemption will be in store for Kylo. As I play it out in my head, I see a character who has been lied to all along but whose innocence is gone. I think he will pay ultimately and I expect it to be heartbreaking, in a little-boy-lost kind of way. As much as Anakin redeemed himself, I see little way back for Kylo.

        The fact that he isn’t wearing his helmet suggests there will be a reveal of sorts. Someone, Rey, Han or Luke knows who he is. I’m speculating – averse to spoilers!

  • October 22, 2015 at 11:32 pm
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    The key in all this, is what happened to Luke after ROTJ. Luke for the Rebel Alliance, now the Resistance is a bit like the gluten in a bread. He’s the key that holds things together, makes them strong, good & confident. Without him there so much less powerfull. So something bad had to happen to him, that force him to exile and leaves the Resistance powerless in front of the First Order.

  • October 23, 2015 at 2:16 am
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    I really loved this trailer! Here’s my take:

    – Finn and Rey’s story begins in Jakku. They manage to escape with the help of Han Solo.

    – Han seems like the character that will take them down the rabbit hole.

    – Maz Kanata might be some kind of oracle who Han may have known in his old scoundrel days. He takes them there to find some answers or to ask for help. (Lupita’s voice in the trailer).
    – Planet Takodana pays the price as the first order somehow tracks them down but the Resistance x-wings arrive and rescue them.
    – They reach the main resistance base and prepare for war against First Order and try an assault on the starkiller base (Ice planet weapon/new death star) before they become destroyed.
    – Finn and Rey, Chewie, (Possibly Han if he hasn’t died yet) fight Kylo Ren but are no match. Someone dies or gets badly injured ( Rey Crying) Luke comes to the rescue and Kylo barely manages to escape.

    ** I think the resistance loses the battle with heavy casualties but they gain 2 powerful people who eventually will become jedi 🙂
    I can’t wait!

  • October 23, 2015 at 9:03 am
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    Full disclosure – in the interest of being a contrarian dick…52..ish shots in the trailer, 38

    of which are either entirely CGI or have CGI elements. Now, being a CG guy, having had my stuff shon theatrically, I’ not saying that’s BAD per se, but 73||% of the footage available being CG not exactly “practical practical practical!!!

  • October 23, 2015 at 2:21 pm
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    Alright. I thought long and hard about it, Here is the most original story i could come up with for Kylo ren not wanting him to be another darth vader.

    Background
    -Kylo Ren is the first born son of Han solo and Leia. He is the first force sensitive child that luke has found, so he trains him in the ways of the jedi. He is given Anikins lightsaber from luke. (This will tie in with the toy saying that weapon belongs to me) Luke then decides its time to test kylo ren.

    He sends him to korriban (The sith home) Thinking he is strong enough to resist the temptation like he did in dagobah. Kylo ren is able to defeat his self like luke did. But, the Ghosts of the Dead Sith surround him, warping his mind. He becomes insane, filled with the dark side and is given a holocron containing the ways of the sith. This holocron can also be used to blind others and lead them astray (As he will do to Poe) They tell him, he is the one that can finish what they started and kill the jedi (Thus the line, “I will finish, What you started.) He confronts luke, and kylo ren being filled with pure hate and darkside is stronger than luke. Luke cannot try to reason with him like his father and must flee. He is broken that he was the one to lead kylo ren to korriban and leaves to be in isolation.
    Kylo ren then creates a group of force sensistives, and uses the holocron to mind control them, filling them with the dark side. it is at this time, that the “force awakens” and starts calling out to the others that are sensistive to the force.

    This is the most original idea i could come up with, The main points being.

    -Unlike Vader, Kylo ren IS being controlled and cannot be reasoned with. It will make luke unable to kill him and very sad. This will help in hiding rey as well later on.
    -Also, we get a new orginial element. The ghosts of the sith, korriban, AND A sith holocron that has the ability to mind control. The writing possiblities are endless then.
    – This explains why he wants to “Finish what you started” He is talking to the ghosts of the sith, and will finish wiping out the jedi once and for all.

    Thoughts? I think its pretty originial. The heart break that Luke feels, the Turn of Kylo Ren by the ghosts of the sith. Am i just crazy?

    • October 23, 2015 at 5:55 pm
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      Not crazy but surely you’re making a lot up? Sith home world, ghosts of Sith, holocrons – all expanded universe stuff? I wouldn’t say the filmmakers looked beyond a next generation of Skywalkers

    • October 23, 2015 at 6:34 pm
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      I doubt you will have that much EU material in there. I doubt the word “Sith” is even mentioned.
      One minor note: when Kylo Ren says, “That weapon belongs to me,” he doesn’t mean he once possessed it. If everything we have read is true, he collects artifacts of Vader’s. He already has his helmet. He now just wants his light saber to add to his collection. Just my opinion.

      • October 23, 2015 at 9:14 pm
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        Yes, but the last time we saw that lightsabre it was falling in to the clouds of a gas giant (bespin) Just how the hell was it retrieved, and how will they make it plausible?

  • October 25, 2015 at 2:59 am
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    HEY I JUST FINISHED WATCHING THE FORCE AWAKENS COMIC CON PANEL again, and I feel like people didn’t really pay attention to the fact that JJ himself stated that he and Kasdan didn’t write Rey or Finn to be any color in particular so I am confused why we are so sure that Rey or Finn must somehow be related to someone from the original cast? The original cast (Ford, Hamil, Fisher) are all white so if JJ and Kasdan meant for the characters of Rey and Finn to be related to one of those characters I feel like their ethnicity would have then been a factor, but according to JJ and Kasdan that was not a factor in casting the actors, even when you go on IMDB trivia page for the Force Awakens, it mentions all the people who auditioned for Rey and Finn interestingly enough they are all actors of mixed ethnicities! To be honest I think the only person that will be related to or of some Skywalker lineage will be Kylo Ren! I think they are trying to make it seem like Rey is a Skywalker but I don’t think she is, or I think she could possibly be related to a character we don’t know yet…

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