Speculation: The Hero Question for Star Wars: The Force Awakens

J.J. Daisy & John

We know our two young leads, and there has been much discussion over which one could be considered the singular “hero” of the new trilogy. Is it the charismatic Boyega and his defecting stormtrooper, or the stunning Ridley and her mysterious scavenger. Hit the jump to read Bluestreaking’s speculation on who will be our “main” hero in Episode VII.

 

 

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By now we all know the roles of Finn and Rey and most of us know the copious amount of rumors and speculation for both characters. While not visible yet there are two lines of thought over who will be the hero of Episode VII, Finn or Rey. Making an assumption I have personally seen the majority of commenters and posters on the Cantina favoring Rey as the lead but there is evidence suggesting Finn as the main lead. This evidence has to do with a certain lightsaber.

 

Finn

This piece of concept art shows Finn with the weapon of a Jedi Knight, and not just any Jedi Knight, the lightsaber of the legendary Skywalker family. He was also granted the first appearance in the highly anticipated first teaser for Episode VII. While the marketing campaign hasn’t begun in earnest it is within the realm of possibility that there will be a heavy Finn focused marketing campaign.

 

Daisy as Rey

While we do have the practical reasoning behind Finn there is heavy symbolism with Rey. The connection between herself and the Skywalker family is heavily evident, especially in the second teaser. Like Luke and Anakin before her Rey is a poor denizen of a desert planet with a shrouded past. Then we have situations like the picture above where there is a direct visual connection with Rey and the Skywalkers. The Rey Solowalker speculation aside Rey has too much symbolism to be ignored.

 

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So what do we make of this? Well I personally accept either argument for Finn or Ridley as stemming from a logical analysis of what we have. What I propose will occur in the actual film is a sense of a “red herring” hero, remember what follows from here on out is pure 100% speculation.

 

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I want you to think back now to the distant year of 2000, ignore the horrid flashbacks of Britney, N*Sync, and Backstreet Boys. Instead I want you to remember a certain film released that year, X-Men. In that film the audience and our heroes are lead to believe that Magneto is after Wolverine, it isn’t until wells a way into the film it is discovered the real target was Rogue all along. Now the plot of Kylo Ren hunting a force user is merely speculation, but the idea of an audience and our heroes being mislead is something I would favor happening in Episode VII.

 

The way this would play out is that either directly or indirectly the audience is guided towards viewing Finn as a so called “heir” to Luke Skywalker, the Jedi hero of the Sequel Trilogy. Finn will have the lightsaber, he will drive the plot, and all signs will point to him being the one who will fight and defeat Kylo Ren. But there will be a moment of revelation, probably in the third act where it is revealed it really was Rey all along.

 

Desert Daisy

Perhaps in a battle it is revealed only Rey is a match for Kylo Ren, perhaps we have the family revelation many people favor, but in some way I feel there will be a revelation revealing that Rey was the hero all along and Finn was just misdirection by Abrams and Kasdan. Personally I consider that effective storytelling but it is the sort of minor plot twist most filmmakers choose to shy away from.

 

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Star Wars has always been about someone’s journey towards becoming a hero. I’ve written before about Campbell’s Monomyth a theory as vital to Star Wars as the force itself. It is easy to envision either Finn or Rey as someone taking on this journey. Finn seeks redemption for his past as an agent for evil while Rey is a desert rat with a destiny. While on paper Rey has the more obvious connection to the heroes of Star Wars past, the idea of Finn being the focal point is interesting in guiding Star Wars towards a new direction. We may even be provided a contrast of a hero who jumps at the call vs one who rejects the call.

 

Anakin Skywalker

Anakin was someone who jumped at the call, he paused hesitantly out of fear for his mother but he wanted to go and become a Jedi. Luke, while expressing hatred of the Empire, would never have left Tatooine had his family not been slaughtered. What VII may be providing us is a chance to see both types of heroes on the screen at once, with rumors currently suggesting Finn accepting the call while Rey is hesitant. Tying this together with my idea of a red herring hero could potentially create one of the more memorable plot developments in recent movie history. Whether or not I am completely off base with this speculation I am still excited to see how our deuteragonists develop on the screen.

 

Be sure to provide your thoughts on the Hero question for Episode VII in the comments below or of course, in The Cantina

 

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217 thoughts on “Speculation: The Hero Question for Star Wars: The Force Awakens

  • June 1, 2015 at 9:25 pm
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    The Hero of this trilogy will be a Woman. The times are changing, and the films will reflect this. The 21st Century isn’t the “Man’s World” of the OT, but even then, Leia went against the norm.

    • June 1, 2015 at 10:27 pm
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      In terms of diversity equality, I think it would be just as good having Finn as the hero- a black or female main hero in Star Wars would both be good. I think they will be equally important to the story ,though.

      • June 2, 2015 at 2:34 am
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        I’ll just assume you’re American (please correct me if you are not) but this whole black/white thing is especially an American thing (maybe British too, even if not to that extreme). There is a big difference when it comes to diversity in having a black man or a woman as the main character. Most Europeans absolutely don’t care if the main character is black or white and I assume most of Asia does not either. But in both those parts of the world (and that’s a MUCH MUCH bigger audience than the US) half of the people are women. 😉

        • June 2, 2015 at 3:29 am
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          THIS. We make a big deal about diversity in the US, while seemingly always focusing on white/black. You’d never guess there are more races than just those two. Blacks, however, are only around 13% of the population. Women, on the other hand, are 50% of the population across the globe, and must fight for equality in most cultures, regardless of race. Personally, I think the bigger step forward is a badass female main hero. I’m team Rey all the way. (Haha, that rhymed.)

          • June 2, 2015 at 3:44 am
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            If you are going to bring in the population of the globe as a point of discussion, how much do white people make up that population? Now compare that to how much the make up the percentage of leads in hollwood movies. Ridley is white last time checked. We’ve seen people like her as leads in countless motion pictures.

          • June 2, 2015 at 8:38 pm
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            I believe diversity is an old wooden ship…

        • June 2, 2015 at 3:41 am
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          It’s not just an American thing. The movie going audience of Hollywood films in America, Europe and the rest of the world is increasingly more ad more non-white. So having someone as Boyega as a non-white lead is a progressive step towards recognizes that. And considering how such films big studio blockbuster movies have almost exclusively been cast with white leads (male or female) for all these decades, giving Boyega a leading role or the lead role is a greater step towards diversity than a white female like Ridley getting the lead role. It won’t matter either way to me and yes it is overdue for a women to be a truly lead character in a SW film. But it never ceases to amaze me how SW fans don’t get that it is overdue as well that the franchise had a leading character (even if only a co-lead) who wasn’t white.

          Also let us not forge that there is no doubt that Rogue 1 will have a female lead. So the franchise is going to have at least one movie soon in which the events revolve around the actions of a female protagonist.

          • June 2, 2015 at 5:38 am
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            So, a female, a hispanic (dameron), and a black are the new team against a white guy waving a jesus christ sword… woahhh that seems democrats vs republicans voters XD…

        • June 2, 2015 at 7:07 am
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          Asians can actually be quite picky when it comes to the race, EVEN with a foreigner.

          If an Asian International School has a choice between a black English-teacher and a white [preferably blonde] English-teacher, they almost always go with the white.
          Of coarse, this is just based on Japanese / Chinese school demographics, I’m not sure how much this is the case with Film.
          I know that almost almost never seen a black guy in a Chinese movie, so no, race-games are not limited to English-speaking countries.

          • June 2, 2015 at 10:34 am
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            Well, Asia is the largest investor in Africa, Malaysia, India, China…, more than Europe or North America.

          • June 2, 2015 at 6:29 pm
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            As I said, I’m not that well informed in EVERY aspect, I’m just speaking about what I’ve seen of the ELT circles, and to a lesser degree, cinema casting choices.

        • June 2, 2015 at 11:51 pm
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          But diversity is still important.

          • June 3, 2015 at 5:02 am
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            unless you are a republian, or an OT fan whose childhood relied only on collecting action figures.

    • June 2, 2015 at 6:03 am
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      Hopefully you’re wrong, we want the good guys to win.

    • June 2, 2015 at 6:08 am
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      Testosterone is the hormone of excellence. We have eclipsed the pinnacle of our society. Our misandrist culture will be the catalyst of human extinction.

      • June 2, 2015 at 5:26 pm
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        That was the most hilarious thing I’ve read in a long time. Get a grip for god’s sake.

      • June 3, 2015 at 5:07 am
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        If you consider the fact that adolf hitler and every crazy world totalitarian leader is male, testosterone is NOT the “hormone of excellence.” Quit glorifying your own gender.

    • June 2, 2015 at 10:38 am
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      really great that diversity is now promoted with Star Wars movies as medium… NOT
      Now I have noone to identifie with. What’s the biggest Star Wars audience?:: 15-25 white males. They should use something else to promote diversity and not this where it does not come natural and is being forced.

      • June 2, 2015 at 11:21 am
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        no…

      • June 2, 2015 at 2:04 pm
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        Obvious troll is obvious.

        You expect non-white non-male people to identify to a white-male character but refuse to return the favor. I despise your opinion.

        – a white-male aware of his privileges and of the unfairness that they are privileges and not rights (I’m also an ally to those causes)

        • June 2, 2015 at 2:30 pm
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          I dont expect that. I do expect that the biggest part of the audience has someone to identify with. Now the minorities amongst the audience has someone to identifie with. Doesnt make sense does it?

          • June 2, 2015 at 3:26 pm
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            Your point doesn’t make sense.
            I’m a human being, I can potentialy identify with any other human being.
            Heck, I can even identify with an alien, a droid or an anthropomorphic animal or object.

          • June 2, 2015 at 3:34 pm
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            Good then I’ll be awaiting ur comments when the next lead will be featured by a chinese man or an iranian girl with a headscarf

          • June 2, 2015 at 3:58 pm
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            Yeah… Actually, I think you are right… There is a kind of person I have trouble relating to: intolerant bigots.

          • June 2, 2015 at 11:07 pm
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            There’s a planet called Iran with Iranians in the SW Galaxy?

            I need to update my SW Encyclopedia…….

      • June 2, 2015 at 3:32 pm
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        Well the sad thing is that those alpha males you make reference cannot identify themselves with a character of different genre or skin color. Probably they are not intellectually gifted.

      • June 2, 2015 at 5:31 pm
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        You relate to somebody’s story, not to their genitals. Girls and boys can relate to Luke’s story. It’s a coming of age story about finding your place in the world. Girls and boys relate to this. The gender of the hero has nothing to do with who you relate to, it’s who you see representing yourself as more. Our last hero was male, so it’s only fair to make this hero female. The fact we have a black hero in the mix is also great. It’s basic representation and equality. It’s not a difficult concept. Anybody arguing against such a simple idea of equality simply has routed xenophobia, and in this case, sexism in them.

        • June 2, 2015 at 6:28 pm
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          Totally!

          My wife tells me she felt more related to Luke than to Leia when she was a kid.
          Now that she’s an adult, she starts to relate to Leia as a strong woman character, but the point is that we can relate to a character or another person regardless of his/her age/ethny/gender/sexual identity/sexual orientation/religion/political opinion, if we identify ourselves in their struggle.

      • June 2, 2015 at 6:35 pm
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        “really great that diversity is now promoted with Star Wars movies as medium… NOT
        Now I have noone to identifie with. What’s the biggest Star Wars audience?:: 15-25 white males.”

        White males should do what minorities have done since day 1 – relate to what’s on the INSIDE of the characters. As a black male HUMAN, it works just fine for me. Try it sometime. 🙂

        “They should use something else to promote diversity and not this where it does not come natural and is being forced.”

        You know what’s forced and not natural at all? An all- or overwhelmingly-white male cast set in futuristic Sci-Fi films. It’s a closed-minded white boy’s wet dream.

        Time to wake up to reality. Not everyone looks like you!

    • June 2, 2015 at 10:41 am
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      Hey guys, I know a game. All name the animals that the three on this picture look like. Ill start. Ridley: Hyena. JJ: Lion. Boyega: Gorilla.

    • June 2, 2015 at 10:53 am
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      I wonder if you will all be so eager to post these socialist comments if the next lead will be a chinese/iraqi/indian.

      • June 2, 2015 at 7:44 pm
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        Why would it matter? Why do you believe we would react any differently?

        You obviously have an issue, get it checked by a therapist. You weren’t born an intolerant biggot, you can still do something about it.

    • June 2, 2015 at 3:21 pm
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      The Hero of this trilogy will be Non-White. The times are changing, and the films will reflect this. The 21st Century isn’t the “White World” of the OT, but even then, Lando went against the norm.

    • June 2, 2015 at 11:10 pm
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      You should educate yourself about mankind’s engineering during the Middle Ages.

      Europeans were far behind the Middle and Far East in many civil engineering feats. They are the ones that took Mediterranean (Greco-Roman) engineering to different levels.

      Native Americans’s selectively bred corn and potatoes into the staples they are today. Corn was a grass and potatoes were no bigger than a pinkie. Native American empires were way more experienced in brain surgery (because they used war clubs) and invented “0”. They were able to follow astronomy better than the Europeans. And they invented CHOCOLATE mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    • June 3, 2015 at 1:52 am
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      I would normally agree with you however the other candidate is a black man also viewed to be times a changing…however I’d lean your way..I think the spin will be that Rey is Luke’s daughter and not Hans though it will seem that way…

    • June 12, 2015 at 9:16 am
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      The Times are not changing that much if Rey is the lead, if Rey were played by a woman of color, now that would be something new.

    • June 1, 2015 at 11:22 pm
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      “You have that power too, Leia”

      • June 2, 2015 at 2:28 am
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        NEK MINIT Star Wars pulls a Game of Thrones on us and kills all the OT characters we hold dear in a moment of triumph and euphoria, spiralling us into a pit of sadness

    • June 2, 2015 at 2:33 am
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      Here’s a thought, what if the force user doesn’t turn out to be the main character O.o that’d be a nice plot twist and a half we wouldn’t expect

    • June 2, 2015 at 5:27 am
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      http://imgur.com/LeRbTVf

      Ford (Han), Ridley (Rey), and Driver (Kylo Ren) were the highlighted actors with the best camera angle when the table read photo op was put out last year.

    • June 2, 2015 at 7:11 am
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      Wouldn’t it be funny if Luke is talking to R2D2 in this scene?

      Like, Leia walks into the room, and sees Luke telling giving r2 the “you’re the chosen one” speech, and she’s like “what?”
      then Luke’s awkwardly like “oh, Leia, hi,”
      and Leia’s like “what are you talking about with R2?”
      and Luke’s like “um,… I was telling him, he, has the force…”
      and Leia’s like “oh… okay.”
      then she just backs away and closes the door, and then mutters to herself: “and people wonder why I don’t want Jedi training…”

  • June 1, 2015 at 9:35 pm
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    I think Rey will be lead. Looking at photos in vanity fair shes center finn is easy to miss in the falcon photo. Plus shes most screen in trailer

  • June 1, 2015 at 9:44 pm
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    Rey looks more badass.

    • June 2, 2015 at 12:20 am
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      So did Han Solo compared to Luke. Who was the lead again? ;P

      • June 2, 2015 at 12:31 am
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        I wasn’t speculating. I was just saying. lol

        • June 2, 2015 at 12:50 am
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          😛

  • June 1, 2015 at 9:45 pm
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    Between the force theme playing for her as the opening shot of the latest trailer and her being front and center in the magazine cover there is little doubt in my mind that Rey is intended as the “main” character. Granted I think Han and Finn will get the lions share of screen time, but the heroes journey will be hers. Not only that, I think it is likely that Rey is a Skywalker or solo, which the saga usually focuses on.

    • June 2, 2015 at 5:00 am
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      Natalie Portman got better spots on VF covers than any of her co-stars in the prequels (front and center for all three). And how did that turn out for Padme as a character?

      Rey may well be the lead but please provide better evidence than that.

        • June 2, 2015 at 3:05 pm
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          Could be a clue or could be not since it’s a fashion magazine catering to women. Hope she will be the lead tho

      • June 3, 2015 at 5:10 am
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        @Anon 5:00

        Rey is the one most likely to be related to Luke. There’s your skywalker connection to continue the legacy, which I doubt Finn has.

        How’s that for evidence?

  • June 1, 2015 at 9:53 pm
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    Luke would have never left his family? Wasn’t he arguing with them about wanting to go to the Academy and he was told he had to wait til next year?

    • June 1, 2015 at 11:30 pm
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      You are right that he wanted to go to the Academy, but when the opportunity came for him to actually leave with Ben he hesitated and said he had work to do. It wasn’t until Owen and Beru were killed that he was able to let go.

  • June 1, 2015 at 9:59 pm
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    I agree with the speculation. But it really would have been more of a plot twist if Finn was white. We’re talking about a line of family heritage here and it becomes a less surprising “plot twist” in this way.

    • June 2, 2015 at 12:24 am
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      We were already twisted when none of the new “Big 3” were white men. 😉

      • June 2, 2015 at 3:39 am
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        I think what he/she is saying is that we wouldn’t know which one is the Skywalker/Solo kid. But in this case, it’s pretty obvious… unless they go all Days of Our Lives, and Leia had an affair with Lando. LOL

        • June 2, 2015 at 6:44 pm
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          HAN: Why am I not surprised, Lando? You already slept in my clothes… 😉

  • June 1, 2015 at 10:03 pm
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    I feel that the question of which one is “the” hero may not so simple in my opinion. I think it’s very possible that our two new heroes will share similar amounts of screen time and will both prove vital to the overall trilogy. The question (which I think has been answered to a degree in this speculation) is more along the lines of “which one is the Jedi?” I agree that Rey obviously has the familial connection to the Skywalkers. I really don’t think Finn will be a Jedi. I think he is just the one holding on to the lightsaber. I think Rey will end up being the trilogy’s main Jedi, but will be reluctant to accept that destiny through the first film. Rey will probably defeat Ren eventually and possibly even go up against Snoke at the end of the trilogy. But none of that takes away from Finn’s heroism in his own right. Finn will be your “everyman” type hero,and Rey your Jedi. Basically I think it will be the Han and Leia/Luke dynamic in reverse. Finn will have the significance Solo/Leia had in the OT, but with Luke’s personality, and Rey will be the new Luke with a Leia/Han personality.

    • June 1, 2015 at 11:33 pm
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      I think they will both be trained as Jedi and be co-leads, but one will probably turn to the Dark Side before the end.

    • June 2, 2015 at 3:45 am
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      I agree entirely with Hard Case here. That seems like the most likely scenario to me too. With Poe Dameron also fitting in. He’ll probably be the most minor of the 3 characters, but still part of a new “Big 3” dynamic, with the pilot skills of Luke and the cockiness of Han, but no Force powers. I think Rey will be the only one of the three with Force powers.

    • June 2, 2015 at 6:32 pm
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      Jedi Woman VS Sith Lord.

      THIS WOULD BE AWESOME WITHOUT PRECEDENT DISNEY THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

  • June 1, 2015 at 10:06 pm
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    I think Finn will serve as some kind of mediator for the story – someone who pulls everything together.And I believe MSW is right on this one – Finn is in possession of the lightsaber until Rey is ready for it.

    I bet Rey is a daughter of either Leia or Luke (highlu unlikely).

  • June 1, 2015 at 10:06 pm
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    Still holding out hope that some how comes late in the movie or come episode 8 that domhnall Gleason will be revealed to be Luke’s son and become the main hero!

    • June 2, 2015 at 12:27 am
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      That’s a stretch.

    • June 2, 2015 at 3:26 am
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      Gosh I hope your right I am sooooo sick of people wanting it to be a black man or women for the sake of it being a black man or women.

      • June 2, 2015 at 3:58 am
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        I want it to be a woman because it makes sense for many reasons. Outside the actual story, it makes sense because women were short-shrift in the OT and PT, so it would be a nice change to have a badass female protagonist. Also, there are many awesome female characters in the EU, and while this is not an adaptation of the EU, it would still be nice to bring over some of those characters, at least in spirit, to the new canon (assuming Rey is a Solo, and therefore, essentially the new canon version of Jaina Solo, one of the very best EU characters). Also, as stated by a few people, women make up 50% of the population, so really, in a galaxy where there is supposedly gender equality, we should have a 50/50 chance of having a female main character. After 2 trilogies with male protagonists (although it’s arguable whether the PT had a main character at all), a trilogy with a female protagonist is kinda due.

        • June 2, 2015 at 4:28 am
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          there’s some logic in what you said. Too bad the main hero isn’t Lupita, I loved her in 12 years….

        • June 2, 2015 at 9:39 am
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          Tell you what then, lets have a divide. Lets have a male and female Hollywood, sub-divided into race and disabilities, then they can all make their own type of ‘lead’ character films for their own audiences. I am red-blooded, testosterone laiden fella and I want to see guys duking it out and females being kissed. I read the news of what’s going on in the USA and quite frankly you lot need re-educating or nuking to save the rest of the world from this stupidity. Arresting guys for spreading their legs on the subway trains, for gods sake you’ve all gone bloody mad.

          • June 2, 2015 at 2:21 pm
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            I really enjoyed the Star Wars: Knight Errant comic series and its companion novel. Nothing really that special about the series, but it was great seeing a female protagonist as the main character we follow through the series is a young Jedi Knight named Kerra Holt who is living in Sith Space and attempts to single-handedly take down a couple of Sith Lords. I hope we get a character in Rey that is similar to Kerra.

      • June 2, 2015 at 5:36 pm
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        “for the sake” .. no it’s for representation. The fact you cannot even see why it’s important just says it all really.

  • June 1, 2015 at 10:08 pm
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    I don´t get it, all the good guys are heroes, everybody had his favorite star wars character and sometimes after time even that changes, don´t care for the lead.

    • June 1, 2015 at 11:29 pm
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      Anakin was the lead character of the prequels, but was not ultimately a hero, so the lead and the hero do not need to be the same. Luke may have been the lead of the OT but he is not everyone’s favorite character or the one everyone identifies with.

      I would love to see Rey be the lead and be the #1 little girls’ Halloween costume the following year instead of Elsa from Frozen.

      • June 2, 2015 at 2:41 am
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        Anakin wasn’t even the main character in his own story, he was a puppet on a string just like everyone else.

        That’s the thing about a film with a clearly identified main protagonist, the story goes where they go and unfolds because of their choices.

        I’m Episode 1 Anakin is just a long for the ride, in Episode 2 Anakin is on secondary duty protecting Padme while Obi-Wan is pushing the main story forward.

        In Episode 3? Again, Anakin is treated like a secondary character to Obi-Wan.

        The problem is they’re all subordinates to the hand of destiny, none of the players are really calling the shots, and magically everything that happens no matter how it happens is Palpatine’s plan.

  • June 1, 2015 at 10:13 pm
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    I believe, that Gleason will play a huge role in this… The fact that in an interview, he said he couldn’t release his role because it was too important (something along those lines). JJ is feeding us Finn and Rey for a reason. Rope-A-Dope.

  • June 1, 2015 at 10:15 pm
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    Has a point above. I mean “Luke” is the main Hero in the original, but my favorite was always Han.

  • June 1, 2015 at 10:24 pm
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    I think that Rey is a Skywalker and will be the new Luke in the sequel trilogy. In one concept art, Rey is using Anakin Skywalker’s lightsaber, fighting supreme leader Snoke. I probably wouldn’t be that surprised if Domhnall Gleeson was playing Luke Skywalker’s son.

    • June 1, 2015 at 11:35 pm
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      I think that is Kylo she is fighting.

  • June 1, 2015 at 10:24 pm
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    I feel like Luke has to have that father son thing going on at some point, however ive no idea how thats going to fit in….

    • June 2, 2015 at 12:22 am
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      possibly with domhall glens character but that rumour seems to have all but gone now

  • June 1, 2015 at 10:32 pm
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    Anybody else believe that Kylo Ren will eventually become our hero? I believe he will be betrayed by his master(s) and eventually become an anti-hero turned hero.

    • June 1, 2015 at 10:54 pm
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      Would be cool… to see someone truly conflicted by the dark side… but turn to the light in a none sacrificial fashion.

  • June 1, 2015 at 10:37 pm
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    The longer we know less and less about Gleeson the more important I feel he is. I think he will be the 3rd as apart of the new “Big 3” and we are being distracted by the idea of Rey and Finn.

    I think we are all in for a surprise.

  • June 1, 2015 at 10:53 pm
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    My guess is Rey is Han Solo/Jedi type of character. Which is a bit different from the norm. While Finn is more like Luke… only not a Jedi. Meaning somewhat innocent but not force sensitive.

    I think Poe gave Boyega the saber for safe keeping and none of the young people really know how to use it. So Finn takes the lead in delivering it to Leia.

    Rey will be the surprise that it’s her who can use it… My best guess given what we’ve heard and seen.

  • June 1, 2015 at 10:59 pm
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    Obama or Hillary ? Both are ok.

    • June 2, 2015 at 12:42 am
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      Obama –> Hillary?
      Boyega –> Daisy?

  • June 1, 2015 at 11:08 pm
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    “Anybody else believe that Kylo Ren will eventually become our hero? I believe he will be betrayed by his master(s) and eventually become an anti-hero turned hero.”

    Now this is an intriguing idea…and it would mirror VAder’s redemption perfectly.

    Regarding who is the TRUE lead…sorry Boyega fans, it’s Ridley….has been since day one.

    Boyega’s role is that of a sidekick…a non-Force sensitive sidekick and isn’t going to be a Jedi.

    Now the bOyega fans will say this is wrong, and the proof is the pic with him carrying (key word) a lightsaber.

    Yes, he’s carrying the light saber…like sam wise was carrying the one ring.

    He’s the lightsaber bearer…but this is a far it goes for him.

    • June 2, 2015 at 12:39 am
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      Oh. I was going to respond to your comment with a serious reply… until I saw your name.

    • June 2, 2015 at 1:33 am
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      No way Adam Driver is a one film and done.

  • June 1, 2015 at 11:40 pm
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    I keep forgetting that Gleeson is even in this movie. I think it’s pretty obvious that Rey is gonna be a Skywalker. Finn will probably be this trilogy’s Han Solo.

    Maybe we will find out that Gleeson is Rey’s twin brother. Or maybe one is Luke’s kid and one is Leia’s kid, cousins. I’m just as cynically sexist as the next guy, but I kinda like this Ridley chick. I would love to see Luke training her to be a Jedi in his little secluded world. Training her to go up against Kylo Ren.

    I can’t F’n wait for this movie to come out. With the prequels, we knew exactly what to expect. This story could go in any direction. If only I would stop reading all these stupid spoilers….

  • June 1, 2015 at 11:49 pm
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    It doesn’t matter who they intend the lead to be, the audience will decide just like they did with the OT. Sure it was Luke’s story, but Han Solo stole the show. In a few months we’ll find out who steals it this time. I’m leaning towards Daisy.

  • June 1, 2015 at 11:51 pm
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    I think that the story will be characterize by more protagonists as the hobbit, not a single protagonist but more

  • June 1, 2015 at 11:53 pm
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    Daisy Ridley is the least experienced of the three new ‘hero’ leads, I wonder if she is the Hero (Heroine?) of the trilogy (and the Skywalker heir) BUT for the first film they are giving the more experienced Boyega and Isaacs a little more of the ‘heavy’ lifting’.

  • June 2, 2015 at 12:05 am
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    Good god,that pic of Daisy under the Boyega concept art is so fine ! #dibs The movie is going to be awesome lol.

  • June 2, 2015 at 12:16 am
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    In theory I think it’s much more original, exciting, life affirming, and transformative to have a common stormtrooper gone awol as the definite main character. In the end though, the theoretical has to give way to the greater requirements of the tale as a whole. I think either one could work as long as they are decisive about who the main character is.

  • June 2, 2015 at 12:18 am
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    firstly seeing as he was the first character revealed and has top billing on pretty much everything I can imagine Finn being the main lead. Because he was the first character shown I can only imagine them doing that for a character thats going to be the new Luke Skywalker of this trilogy. Whilst I feel Rey will follow the Skywalker/Solo bloodline, I think Finn will introduce a bit of new blood into the saga, and will be reliable to the audience as an outsider into this world. I also feel his story of going from a random stormtrooper to a Jedi Knight is quite a bit more interesting than what Reys story appears to be. But I’d be happy either way, and having a woman or a black person as the lead, or dual leads in the greatest franchise in film is massively progressive, and hopefully the rest of hollywood follow suite.

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      There is no cast billing yet. Just two entirely separated lists of new and old actors.

      And having your name go first doesn’t necessarily mean anything anyway. John Cho has top billing in both of Abrams’s Star Trek movies (they did those mostly alphabetically), look at the trailers and posters for it. Jupiter Ascending is not primarily about Channing Tatum’s character yet his name is listed first in the marketing materials but not the end credits (if IMDb is correct). Ewan McGregor and Natalie Portman were billed over Hayden in the Star Wars prequels but they serve Hayden’s main character story. Rachel Weisz had her name go first for The Brothers Bloom and the story isn’t about her character, it’s primarily about Adrian Brody’s. These are just a few examples.

      IMDb goes by the end credits and those are often in a different order than the marketed credits and often also are sometimes listed in order of appearance.

      Cast billing is also negotiable.
      http://www.castittalent.com/blog/2011/07/actorpedia-hollywood-definitions/

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        Im just saying dude when the cast list was realised he was listed at the top, and most news outlets here in the UK give him top billing whenever TFA is written about.

    • June 2, 2015 at 5:06 am
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      Great post. This is the attitude I wished more SW fans had going into the filming. That they could have been generally happy with the idea of either Ridley or Boyega (the first two on set for the first week of filming) as THE lead or even as co-leads. That they could have seen that Finn’s story possibilities were as strong as Rey even if he lacked the legacy angle for the very reason that he would have a clean slate and not possibly be bogged down by history. Instead SW fans surprised me with their overwhelming favoritism towards Rey and their outright dismissal of Finn. I’ve been shocked by it.

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        thanks mate, personally I think the biggest possibility is that they will be co-leads and will have the two main conflicts of the new trilogy with Rey going against her brother Kylo and with Luke and then eventually Finn going up against Snoke. Both of their stories looks very interesting with Finn going from a random yes man to potentially the person that’s going to bring down this new empire, and with Rey having to accept her destiny and live up to her lineage . Personally I find Finns sorry much more interesting, as Reys is similar to Lukes in the OT whereas Finns offers something new.

  • June 2, 2015 at 12:20 am
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    It was reported fairly early on that Daisy was confirmed for EPVIII, ahead of any of the other SW newbies. In fact, I havent seen or heard anything (yet) about the other players returning in the sequels, at least not as of yet. Could lend some credence to her being the principle protagonist moving forward.

    • June 2, 2015 at 12:45 am
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      That report may have been erroneous. She is back for Episode VIII most likely though. MagnarTheGreat in the Cantina could speak more about that than me.

      • June 2, 2015 at 4:37 am
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        1)MSW made a mess of things by misinterpreting Deadline’s report of Ridley changing agencies (which is really all what the report was about) into some wild conclusion that Ridley alone so far (last summer) had been signed for the following movies. That wasn’t the case.

        2)Disney and Lucas Ltd never made official statements about actors signing up for all three movies. Did they have to anyway?

        3)It is pretty much clear in my view that Boyega, Ridley, Driver and Isaac will definitely be around for all three movies.

  • June 2, 2015 at 12:26 am
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    Meh

  • June 2, 2015 at 12:27 am
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    Hero?
    Pah,gimmie a villain anyday of the week.

    I would saythough that it’s the three of them not any one.Like the OT ,it’s Luke,Han and Leia,here it’s Poe,Rey and Finn in no particular order.

    • June 2, 2015 at 12:48 am
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      Luke is the main hero and focal point of the OT. Han and Leia are supporting characters. However, that “peripherality” is what allows Han and Leia to be, in many ways, more interesting than Luke because a main hero tends to be somewhat of a blank slate who we can easily project ourselves onto, someone sheltered enough that when we see the world through their eyes it appears new and full of wonder. In that sense a frightened and brainwashed imperial foot soldier is a more fertile main hero than an already street smart scrap collector. Either way, now they just need to be committed to whatever choice they made in the writing process.

  • June 2, 2015 at 12:31 am
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    We’ve seen ensemble casts work wonders in Disney’s Marvel Universe and in Abrams’ Star Trek reboot. I think it’s a safe bet that that formula may be at work here.
    Who’s THE hero, or THE lead of the original trilogy?

  • June 2, 2015 at 12:43 am
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    They are going to have trouble selling Rey action figures to little boys who don’t want Black Widow & Scarlet Witch toys. 8 year old boys are not interested in female leads in sci-fy. Look at all the boys lining up to see Tomorrow Land. Whether the movie is good or not they need to know their audience.

    • June 2, 2015 at 7:07 pm
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      Little girls like Star Wars too. I played with Star Wars action figures as a little girl (With my brother) and wished I could have more women than just Princess Leia.

      My older son’s favorite prequels character is Zam Wesell and one of his favorite movies is Gravity–female lead there.
      As for action figures, he always preferred the armored figures like Darth Vader and Boba Fett. I can see Caotain Phasma appealing to little boys.

    • June 2, 2015 at 11:25 pm
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      Scarlet Witch just arrived.

      Black Widow is an ensemble character who has rarely been the lead character in roughly 70 years of Marvel comics.

  • June 2, 2015 at 12:44 am
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    Rey is a main HERO. Not Finn.
    It is a time for a female character to be a main HERO in Star Wars universe.

    • June 2, 2015 at 3:51 am
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      The same thing could be said for minority characters. White people rule Hollywood. Don’t lump us in with “male”.

      That said, I would be fine either way.

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        Thank you. It is as if every Asian, black, Latino male should take a backseat because white males have had the opportunity to represent male lead heroes exclusively in SW. Sorry, guys. You can’t be the elad because we already had male leads before, blah, blah, blah. If you have a penis you are linked together without taking into consideration that non-white males have gotten far less opportunities in Hollywood than white females.

        Without a doubt it is overdue for a true female lead in a SW motion picture. But at least there have been female characters who made up the Big Three in the previous six movies. Meanwhile no non-white characters have ever been one of the main characters in those same movies. Which means it is just as much overdue for a non-white character, including a non-white male, to get a shot as well. This shouldn’t be rocket science and yet it goes over some people’s heads. Willingly I must say.

        There seems to be a large contingent of fans who are desperately in need of seeing a female lead. That’s understandable but they lose part of my sympathy for their point of view when they are so blind to how it is just a big a deal to see Hollywood give the lead to a person who is not white at all. Then there are the phony “feminists” who only care about this because they don’t want the alternative. Call them the Anybody But Boyega crowd. If Finn was white they would be siding with that character and devoting so much time towards speculation about him that his threads would rivals Rey’s. But Finn is black so they will settle for their least worse option in Ridley and go around championing the idea of females being the protagonists in the SW saga.

  • June 2, 2015 at 12:50 am
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    I think Rey will be our “Luke” & Finn will be our “Han”. Both very important to the future of the galaxy, but would not survive at certian points without one another.

  • June 2, 2015 at 12:52 am
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    Solowalker…. I kinda like it.

    • June 2, 2015 at 3:55 am
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      I’ve also seen Skysolo.

      • June 2, 2015 at 7:08 am
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        Skysolo – skyolo – kylo. Boom.

  • June 2, 2015 at 12:59 am
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    Is bluestreaking the same person that was Echo-7?

    Just posting a gigantic message forum post that is just a bunch of assuming and crap.

  • June 2, 2015 at 1:00 am
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    The main character is yo momma

  • June 2, 2015 at 1:51 am
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    Glesson will be Luke in flashback, I hate this idea , but all indication pointed to the theory

  • June 2, 2015 at 1:55 am
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    Finn WILL become a Jedi. They are both VERY important to the trilogy. In this trilogy you will be following Finn. He is the LEAD protagonist. Rey goes through some major stuff. She has a secret. A BIG one. Not the one that’s obvious.

    Ben was not the last Kenobi. Will be explored later.

    • June 2, 2015 at 2:27 am
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      On scale of 1-10, 1 being not likely to happen and 10 being definitely, I’d rate your conclusions -5 at least.

    • June 2, 2015 at 1:24 pm
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      So Rey is a Kenobi?

  • June 2, 2015 at 2:01 am
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    I fear the synopsis at Making Star Wars is right: Rey is a Mary Sue; already powerful and beyond the need to be taught anything (especially by any man of course) and Fin is just a damsel in distress who needs Rey to rescue him at every turn and he is just holding on to the lightsaber for Rey until Rey decides to get around to using it. It sounds like there’s no room for her to grow beyond just being happy she has friends willing to at least try to rescue her sometimes. I’m sure it’s Jason Wards fantasy come true, but I hope they are wrong about it because that scenario would be boring.

    • June 2, 2015 at 2:08 am
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      Finn isn’t definitely not a damsel in distress. But he is DEFINITELY out of his league at the jump point of the film.

      • June 2, 2015 at 2:39 am
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        How do you know? Have you seen the script?

  • June 2, 2015 at 2:21 am
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    More than likely, Rey is the main protagonist and Finn is secondary but important to the plot because he has key information about the enemy our heroes will need.

    And it’s him who inspires Rey to fight the First Order and leave Jakku behind. Not that she has a choice, as helping Finn brings the First Order on their trail.

    Finn is there to support her.

    • June 2, 2015 at 4:55 am
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      Support her? Like a loyal servant?

  • June 2, 2015 at 2:30 am
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    Rey will become a Sith. Finn is the new hero. But Rey is there to carry on a “certain legacy” of balancing The Force.

    • June 2, 2015 at 4:58 pm
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      And you’re here to be a dipshit fan that doesn’t realize bringing balance to the force meant destroying the Sith.

      Moron.

  • June 2, 2015 at 3:05 am
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    Call your selves Star Wars fans? meh..R2 is the hero of all the films…

  • June 2, 2015 at 3:07 am
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    I think the hero has not been revealed yet. It’s too easy to say Rey or Finn may have the lead role. They have been featured in the trailers as main characters. Maybe we are suppose to be leaning towards them. Abrams is known for his twists. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is hidden character we haven’t heard about yet.

  • June 2, 2015 at 3:10 am
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    The episodes are about the Skywalkers. The anthology films are about whatever else is going on.

  • June 2, 2015 at 3:21 am
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    Also why the the hell can you not have more than one main lead?…it’s like non of you have ever watched films, read stories, listened to radio plays, watched theatre etc etc etc…such narrow thinking and thinking in absolutes.

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      Oh Finn is definitely a lead, but like any traditional narrative there’s only one main protagonist, hence the term main protagonist.

      It’s not narrow minded, it’s just how these things work.

      Either the story is following Finn from the start, and it’s centered around him and his actions or it’s not.

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        You say traditional narratives if we know that this is following that premise…now if it was a traditional Hollywood film based narrative I would guess Daisy, Jon, Adam and Oscar would not have been cast as non of them would be considered to be following the rules of Hollywood based on their Looks, Race and Gender as the main Antagonist/Protagonist/Lead

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          Have you ever seen Star Wars? If you have you wouldn’t be arguing. If you’re expecting something other than a traditional sort of narrative from Star Wars you’re obviously clueless. But please keep arguing this utter nonsense.

  • June 2, 2015 at 3:46 am
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    I disagree that Luke would have never left Tattooine had Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru not been killed. Luke was raring to go and Beru was advocating for him even before the stormtroopers did their thing.

  • June 2, 2015 at 3:46 am
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    The movie’s mystery and plot lies in Rey. Seems there is a possibility of role reversals that could take place.

    Anything could happen.

  • June 2, 2015 at 4:06 am
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    It’s time Star Wars had a woman be the focal point.

  • June 2, 2015 at 4:30 am
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    So the outcome the writer envisions pretty much confirms what the public thinks already. So how is it going to end up being a big reveal in the film if it is such a forgone conclusion in people’s minds beforehand?

    Let’s get real. When the casting announcement was first made I would say 90% to 95% of SW fans were looking at Ridley as playing the legacy character who would be the film’s lead. That hasn’t changed. Even fans who claim they stay away from spoilers take a calculated leap and presume Rey/Ridley is the main character, largely in part because it is a forgone conclusion she is a child of one of more of the original big three. As for the general public….well in their minds white people are the default lead characters of big movies. That’s what decades of conditioning by getting a steady diet of white leads will do to folks. It becomes expected. Plus it didn’t help that Daisy Ridley alone was brought to Japan to promote the film. So if JJ wanted to fool audiences with the whole switch-a-roo in terms of Finn and Rey, chances are his plans have already been gutted. Truthfully as of now the only way he can actually catch the audience off guard is by making Finn the lead character. Moviegoers won’t be prepared for a black lead unless it is Denzel Washington or Will Smith.

  • June 2, 2015 at 4:33 am
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    I like how people are acting like having a black male protagonist is somehow less “progressive” than a white female.

    White female protagonists have been around since the time that the “magical negro” trope was still in use.

    heck, Finn being a stormtrooper was controversial. . .a friken foot soldier. His being lead would be a bigger deal.

  • June 2, 2015 at 4:42 am
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    Assuming the ST follows the pattern of the previous trilogies, I think Rey will be the hero. In previous trilogies, the hero was also the character who had scenes where he’s alone with the other force users (other than the presence of R2). In the PT, Anakin had scenes where he met the Jedi Council by himself, spend time alone with Obi-Wan, and met Palpatine by himself. In the OT, Luke had scenes where he spend time alone with Obi-Wan and Yoda, battled Vader by himself, and met the Emperor and Vader by himself.

    Well in TFA, we know there will be one scene with just Luke and Rey (the Skellig Island scene), and MSW rumors have mentioned one scene where it’s just Kylor Ren and Rey.

  • June 2, 2015 at 5:29 am
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    Stars Wars Episode VII
    The Search for the White Male Leads

  • June 2, 2015 at 5:54 am
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    Rey is the main hero of this trilogy, she will have Anakin/Luke’s lightsaber.

    Finn is a secondary hero.

  • June 2, 2015 at 6:09 am
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    Y’know, I hated Hayden Christensen in the PT…but even with all his shortcomings at least he LOOKED the part unlike Boyega.

    Sometimes I wonder if this is all a joke, like Mel Brooks has secretly been directing Spaceballs II and TFA is simply a cover.

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      Boyega is less “charismatic” and more “asthmatic” in every trailer.

      When you pile on hate atop Hayden or Jake Lloyd in the prequels everyone accepts it, but the minute you criticize a black person, it’s instantly racism

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        Dumbass, we haven’t even heard him speak. And what the fuck does not look the part even mean? You mean he’s not a white male that can’t act his way out of a cardboard box? Ok.

      • June 2, 2015 at 11:28 pm
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        Because Anakin was sucky.

        Why pre-judge Boyega when you have no clue of the character or his importance.

  • June 2, 2015 at 6:52 am
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    Just FYI, in screenwriting, there are differences between the concepts of main character, protagonist, and hero. See e.g. here:
    http://narrativefirst.com/vault/the-confusion-between-main-character-and-protagonist.
    http://narrativefirst.com/articles/redefining-protagonist-and-main-character
    http://johnaugust.com/2005/whats-the-difference-between-hero-main-character-and-protagonist

    Often these are embodied in the same character (e.g. A New Hope); sometimes they’re not (e.g. The Phantom Menace; obviously in that film, Qui-Gon is the main character while Padme is the protagonist). Sometimes there are multiple ones.

    When speculating about what role which character is going to play, it might be helpful to keep these differences in mind. Cheers 🙂

  • June 2, 2015 at 7:13 am
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    Padme was more of a protagonist in Ep 1 than Anakin. Qui-Gon was the lead until he died. The roles that play out in Ep 7 won’t necessarily mean that they will be that way through the whole trilogy.

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      Right. As I mentioned in a post above, Qui-Gon is the main character while Padme is the protagonist. This is intentional; one of the first things on that Lucas says on the DVD commentary is that it’s Padme’s story seen through the eyes of the Jedi.

  • June 2, 2015 at 7:13 am
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    You guys are all wrong.

    Rey AND Finn are both red herrings [whatever that means]

    Poe Dameron is the REAL Solowalker. He is the one to defeat Kylo.

    HOW COULD WE HAVE BEEN SO BLIND?!

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      In the Stanley Kubrick film The Shining, in the store room there is a product brand name called Golden Rey.

  • June 2, 2015 at 7:19 am
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    Finn Skywalker.

  • June 2, 2015 at 7:37 am
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    I am a new follower of this forum and I have read all the comments and respect the wealth of knowledge you guys display, BUT… I haven’t heard anyone mention the original concept for episode 4 which gives me a reason to think J.J. is way deeper into the whole STAR WARS mythos than any of us speculators ever dared speculate. What I am getting at is how they leaked that Disney had rejected the drafts of 7,8,and 9 but never said that they would discount any of the classic cutting room floor material. POINT BEING, Luke the main protagonist of episode 4 was originally a female character and this may be a reflection of that old idea hence Rey having the spotlight as Jedi Knight and Finn as possible apprentice to Han and Chewie due to their shared personal experience with the Empire. I am a fan of the first generation who has been raised with a deep love of George’s creation and I, as well, cannot wait till December. May the force flow through us all.

    • June 2, 2015 at 7:57 am
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      Han being part of the Empire is not canon. So there’s no connection with finn on that front.

      • June 2, 2015 at 9:28 am
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        Doesn’t mean it can’t be in TFA.

    • June 2, 2015 at 9:25 am
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      Hmm. Wasn’t Luke a woman at one point? Wasn’t Han going to be black?

      • June 2, 2015 at 9:51 am
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        The Luke character was male in all the drafts prior to the final. Lucas did at some point play with the idea of making him female as evidenced by the Mcquarrie concept poster and a few scant interviews. But obviously that was only for a short time. He also played with the idea of a fully Asian cast.

        But with pop culture the way it is today and Kathleen Kennedy, JJ Abrams, and Disney running the show it all adds up to a perfect storm where there was absolutely ZERO chance the Lead for this trilogy would not be female.

  • June 2, 2015 at 8:53 am
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    This comment section is about as interesting as hammering rusty nails into my dick. I can actually feel my Iq dropping reading shit shit.

  • June 2, 2015 at 9:00 am
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    All 3 leads are important but Finn is our “Luke” so-to-speak. Everyone is downplaying Poe. But he has a huge part also. However, the story follows Chewie, BB-8, Han, Rey, and Finn on their journey to find Luke. Poe’s plot line is separate at points (as he mostly interacts with Han, Leia, R2, 3PO and BB) and then converges. And HIS story actually mostly sets the plot in motion. C3PO and R2 are featured more than has been revealed. And the full new cast of characters hasn’t been revealed either…

    To clear it up: DG is the relative of someone, but not Luke.

    More news will be coming soon. Be patient.

    • June 2, 2015 at 12:52 pm
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      Gleeson’s character is the rumored Kenobi relative talked about by the hollywood trades last year? Can you make a thread on the cantina about this? It’s pretty interesting and most have long since forgotten those rumors.

  • June 2, 2015 at 9:12 am
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    FINN all the way. Would Darth Vader get beaten by a girl? No. It would make him less threatening. 90 pound white girl beats Master of the darkside? give me a break. Star Wars is for BOYS. Fuck your girl power bullshit this is why boys a weak these days. in 20 years there will be no more clint eastwoods just androgenous sissies

    • June 2, 2015 at 9:14 am
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      I agree they already have hunger games, divergent, resident evil, twilight.. leave star wars alone!

    • June 2, 2015 at 9:41 am
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      Poor easily threatened little man. Somebody call the whaaaambulance.

      • June 2, 2015 at 1:34 pm
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        just think its stupid to see a little girl swing a lightsaber. Ashoka is lame. Doesnt work. a 200 pound bull dyke would make more sense. maybe you should apply

        • June 2, 2015 at 6:02 pm
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          Sorry! Rey’s already more of a badass than Hayden “Sand Rash” Christenson

    • June 2, 2015 at 9:55 am
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      Star Wars is for EVERYONE, not just boys. Blaming boys’ alleged weakness on girl power is pathetic.

      Who cares how much a woman in Star Wars weighs? This ain’t about muscles. Blasters, lightsabers, starships, the Force, etc. are the great EQUALIZERS.

      It’s about what’s in your heart, not what’s between your legs.

      • June 2, 2015 at 1:39 pm
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        Nooo im prettty sure its mainly for boys. Mon motha and Leia are the only 2 girls in the original trilogy.. all the rest? boys. guess we gotta infiltrate snow white and sleeping beauty now and plant our flag

        • June 2, 2015 at 7:29 pm
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          That was back in ’83. It’s 2015 now. Women are a much stronger Force to contend with, as they should be.

      • June 2, 2015 at 6:31 pm
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        Yes, Lucas has said on at least two occasions that he made Star Wars for boys and the marketing has always been to boys as well. But that was then and times have changed and will change again like the wind.

        • June 2, 2015 at 7:18 pm
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          Exactly. This is 2015, not 1977. Star Wars is not only getting with the times – it’s leading it.

    • June 2, 2015 at 12:58 pm
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      Darth Vader didn’t get beaten by anyone. Luke threw down his saber, remember?

      • June 2, 2015 at 1:37 pm
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        after he cut his hand off and had him crumpled to the ground with his only other hand up begging for mercy?

      • June 2, 2015 at 7:25 pm
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        Luke threw down his lightsaber at the Emperor, not Vader. Still, I see nothing wrong with a woman taking Vader on.

    • June 2, 2015 at 3:47 pm
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      Better zip up…Your overcompensation is showing. 🙂

  • June 2, 2015 at 9:16 am
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    Rey is this trilogy’s Like, Poe is this trilogy’s Han, Finn is this trilogy’s Leia.

  • June 2, 2015 at 9:26 am
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    Finns the best looking out of the main cast..and has the better acting skills. He completely owns Attack the Block and was the first named out of the leads when being linked with the film.

    He is going to be the best thing about the new films apart from R2

    • June 2, 2015 at 6:04 pm
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      What are you smoking?

    • June 2, 2015 at 10:44 pm
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      Yeah, right. For gay people maybe. But to me and my wife Daisy is the more beautiful of them all.

      • June 3, 2015 at 1:56 am
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        Eh ‘gay people’ what century were you born in? 1800’s?

        Does not matter what gender, race, colour, sexual orientation etc anyone is to appreciate good looks and also credible acting skills. You sound kind of dumb

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          Anyway back to along time a go in a Diverse galaxy far far away

  • June 2, 2015 at 9:27 am
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    Rey looks like an ugly Smee Skywalker

    • June 2, 2015 at 1:49 pm
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      Not ugly!
      And you haven’t even got the name right!
      WHO THE HELL IS ….Smee Skywalker!?!!?!!

      • June 2, 2015 at 4:23 pm
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        Dumb ass spelling mistake..Shmi Skywalker Lars

        • June 2, 2015 at 4:32 pm
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          Also he has a true heroes journey in Attack The Block..now that leads me to believe he was offered the part based on that. It’s not rocket science just basic casting principles

  • June 2, 2015 at 11:11 am
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    I’m more concerned about the reports of the rebel fleet massing near Sullest.

  • June 2, 2015 at 12:25 pm
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    Gleeson will be the surprise star as luke skywalkers son.thats what I think.

  • June 2, 2015 at 1:40 pm
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    Gwendolyn Christy as Phasma was to throw off the Kylo Ren assumptions, Kylo is a chic.
    Look at the arms. Men have more definition regardless of how cut they are. Girls have straight slender lines, Kylo Ren in the photo costume shots and the teaser have girls arms, also notice how Daisey Ridley’s chest is not very pronounced. She was selected because of fitting the costume. The chic is playing both sides like Clint Eastwood in a Fistfull of Dollars, and Bruce Willis in the the Last Man Standing. Remember George wanted Boba fett to be revealed as a chic, but instead we got Leia in Boush Bounty hunter disguise, which was very Boba Fett.
    Not saying her motive but the Vader mask reveal in the Third act like in Jedi, is going to be Rey revealed as the one who was behind the whole debacle.

  • June 2, 2015 at 2:56 pm
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    I have a feeling Finn is a Skywalker, Lando and Leias lovechild… Would explain the rumor about Han and Leia not being together.. Just a guess though, nothing to back it up lol!

    • June 2, 2015 at 6:10 pm
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      Great find well done

  • June 2, 2015 at 6:23 pm
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    To me it seems that Luke narrarating the second teaser+Han and Chewie having the awesome few seconds at the end points to the original three being just as important as everybody else. Hopefully they will be the main characters as much as the new people and Abrams won’t sacrifice a good story just for the sake of being politically correct like everybody else does.

  • June 2, 2015 at 6:46 pm
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    I have a feeling the “back and forth and working in tandem with the editing team” might have something to do with dummy footage which they are substituting behind closed doors, making sure it matches up without it being leaked by orchestra members, studio staff etc. either that or there will be music that is intertwined with the narrative itself. for example Han might be part owner of Maz Kanata’s Jinn Joint, and they might have a house band….

  • June 2, 2015 at 9:52 pm
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    I can’t even clearly picture some of these actors in their current roles. I’ve been watching “Girls” with my girlfriend for a couple of days now, and imagining Adam Driver as a villain is just impossible. In Girls, he’s a sociopath, sex addict actor who literally masturbates in front of people. Guess I’ll just have to get used.

  • June 2, 2015 at 11:54 pm
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    With all the brilliant theories on here, why have i not seen it proposed that Finn is a Calrissian?

    Neither Rey nor Finn have last names and it seems like a definite possibility that he’ll be revealed as Lando’s kid.

    What’s more it would go well with the theme as Bluestreaking says, of ‘seeking redemption for the past’ for being an agent of evil. A good continuation of Lando and his redemption for Ep 5.

    • June 3, 2015 at 2:38 am
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      It actually has been suggested several times and I don’t agree with it at all. Billy Dee Williams and John Boyega don’t like alike at all. Also the character of Finn was originally imagined as a white male as seen in early concept art, they cast Boyega because he was the best actor for the part.

      • June 3, 2015 at 4:40 am
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        Didn’t know the info on who they were originally looking to cast. Cool.

        Why do you think they are withholding his last name then?

        • June 3, 2015 at 8:27 pm
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          Lots of reasons, I could see him being a Leonis. Finn could even be his last name

  • June 3, 2015 at 12:08 am
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    Wouldn’t work.
    Boyega’s too black to be Lando’s kid.

    Billy Dee Williams is ethnically mixed.
    Boyega is one hundred percent pure Nigerian.

    • June 3, 2015 at 12:58 am
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      Hahaha believe it or not a light skinned or mixed guy can have a dark kid.

      • June 3, 2015 at 2:01 am
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        Fact is everyone originates from Africa so whatever colour you are, you originate from black or very dark brown

        Anyway back to along time a go in a Diverse galaxy far far away

        • June 3, 2015 at 4:19 am
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          “Fact is everyone originates from Africa so whatever colour you are, you originate from black or very dark brown”

          What a load of liberal bullshit. The truth is all races developed independently of one another.

          The Out of Africa Theory is bunk.

          Sorry to get off topic, I just had to correct that nonsense.

          • June 4, 2015 at 3:36 am
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            Yeah, way of topic.

    • June 3, 2015 at 1:37 pm
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      If you were given a penny for every time someone made up a story on that site, you could retire for the rest of your life.

  • June 3, 2015 at 5:32 pm
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    I think that John Boyega is just missing a lot of charisma to be the Jedi. Hope I’m wrong.

    • June 3, 2015 at 8:25 pm
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      Boyega is all charisma, have you not seen Attack the Block?

    • June 4, 2015 at 3:29 am
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      Dude really? the movie hasn’t even come out yet! And Again another comment that is just trying to justify why you don’t want him in the lead, pathetic.

  • June 12, 2015 at 9:23 am
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    I can guarantee you that if Rey were being played by a woman of color that there would be nowhere near the push for her to be the lead.

  • September 7, 2015 at 7:53 pm
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    So finn is just holding the lightsaber for someone else.
    And finn isn’t really a stormtroopers
    And finn isn’t really the hero he’s just a red herring.
    Sounds like finn can’t do anything…thank god everyone gives Rey a pass for “some reason”

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