More Hints on Who The Villain Is from The Force Awakens Teaser.
While there has been quite a bit of speculation about the identity of the hooded figure we see skulking about in the trailer, most people have come to the conclusion that he is being played by Adam Driver. Now, thanks to a little bit of sleuthing from a member of our Cantina forums, there is now additional support to show that the star of HBO’s Girls is playing the part of the tall, dark, and spooky character.
From The Cantina:
Rogue 13: Noticed something interesting tonight when I watched the trailer again on my Apple TV. In the information for the trailer, there are two screens of details about the movie/trailer. One screen lists the actors…Boyega, Ridley, Driver, Isaac, and Serkis, and no other actors. The other screen lists the paragraph that talks about the movie and contains the larger list of the cast that have already been confirmed. It could mean those are the ones in the trailer or it could be just that the list is cut off at that spot and those were the ones listed first. I checked the web and the iOS trailers app and didn’t see the same thing there, so who knows.
The thing that makes this interesting is that four of the five actors have confirmed their presence in the trailer – obviously, Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, and Oscar Isaac all appear with their faces visible, and Andy Serkis confirmed that he was the voice in the trailer. So since we all know that these actors are in the trailer, and none of the other cast was listed, it’s safe to presume that Adam Driver was playing the cloaked figure. When looking on Apple’s website, the cast is listed in the same order, but the rest of the cast is also listed. The site also places the ordering of the cast with the newcomers first and the returning actors and actress afterward. It also should be noted that iTunes also lists Kenny Baker as being on the film even though there has been no evidence of this. Baker was announced with the Official cast announcement back on April 29th, although it seems more of a symbolic gesture.
However, there’s another person — a Star Wars alum, in fact — that concurs with fan speculation. Joel Edgerton, who played Owen Lars in the Prequel trilogy, is willing to bet money that “Villain X” is portrayed by Adam Driver. In an interview he gave GQ British, Edgerton conveyed his thoughts about The Force Awakens teaser trailer:
Towards the beginning of your career, you were in the Star Wars prequels – what did you make of the trailer for The Force Awakens?
I loved it! It’s old school, I love the new lightsaber – the way those two little crossbars shot out, it’s really cool stuff. It was such a short trailer, but it definitely got me going. I’m a massive fan, and I was working with Adam Driver actually [on Midnight Special] just around the time that he got the gig, and I was like, “Tell me who you’re going to play?” He said, “I can’t tell you anything!” I’m pretty certain, and I don’t know this for a fact, but just knowing how tall Adam is, and how he moves, and the fact that there was chatter on the internet that he was going to play the equivalent of a Darth Vader, it’s got to be him with that red lightsaber. The way he’s moving, when he walks through the forest. He definitely hasn’t told me that, he’s an air-tight ship. But I would lay $50 on that for sure.
Edgerton isn’t involved with the production obviously, but having worked with Driver is in a special position to opine about this. Surely the actor of this mysterious “Villain X” will be revealed in due time, but for now there is no official confirmation. Barring some surprise cast member or a complete role reversal from what we’ve heard — think Gwendoline Christie — it’s very plausible that “Villain X” is played by Adam Driver. As always stay locked on the StarWars7News target for all the Star Wars news, rumors, and speculations as we get them.
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SPOILER: he is me.
Does the SpoilerMan confirm that?
awosome i like your light saber
I think it could very possibly be driver but just as likely it could be Gwen Christie. Only make this speculation due to how the character walks, and gets into the fighting posture. Both are similar to Christie in game of thrones. I just went back and watched all of her fight sequences in game of thrones. They’re very similar. It’s a total toss up but with as much as we know about JJ, how he likes to throw people for a loop. Not to mention how apparent it is that Disney is wanting to include more females in all of their productions. Which I’m also more than fine with, given that it’s done right, and makes plausible sense to the story.
SpoilerMan confirmed it was Driver a week ago, you guys are both tardy and pretty inept
Since when SpoilerMan can actually “confirm” anything? What he says means nothing until proven. That’s no “confirmation” at all
SpoilerMan’s a hack. You’re an idiot if you believe what they report.
Spoilerman has as much credibility as any of them out there (maybe more than most). Take your pick.
Even this is concrete conformation so your comment is stupid.
Is NOT***
Wasnt there a pic going around of driver in an orange rebel tie fighter suit?
there are rumors that he is playing the villan secretly, that he is both the sith and also the leader of red squadron (same character though)
Remember that scene in The Dark Knight when the Joker was dressed in that police uniform?
Yeah.
50$ isn’t a whole lot of your THAT sure …..
To a working actor it is.
You’ll get that joke if you are one.
*if
Really wanna know who Gleeson is playing.
A Skywalker?
Nope. He has minor role in movie. He plays young Paplatine in flashback scenes.
So if that’s true then the reason behind the flashback is to show an interaction with Plagueis. .
But Star Wars doesn’t use flashbacks..
Not yet.
Ahhh, flashbacks, the long distant relatives of lense flares and close relatives of the positive or negative feelings one gets whilst in the midst of a thunderstorm
Fuck off with the flashback bullshit already. There hasn’t been a flashback scene in a Star Wars film so far so why start now?
We also never saw a lightsaber with a crossbar in Star Wars before, but Disney decided now was a fine time to start with that. I hate the idea of flashbacks on Star Wars, I hope if they do then they are at least a vision or a hologram rather than just a strait narrative device. Still- JJ has said he is going to have nostalgia, but he is not above changing things a lot if he thinks it serves the story
Does not equate. One is a prop, another is a storytelling method which gets into the very style that makes Star Wars what it is. Any “flashback” scenes should be done as holographic recordings like we saw in rotten (I mean ROTS).
It’s not even driver, but k.
It’s Gleeson….
i won’t stop saying that until it’s otherwise proven, but im 99.9% sure, it’s Gleeson playing our “X”
But, Gleeson is a skinny dude with narrow shoulders. Did you even watch the teaser? The villain there has decent mass on him and has broad shoulders.
No, i watched it, but it doesn’t seem to be a “Very” big dude. Also Driver isn’t very big mass wise (he’s also 6’3-6’4) the character seems to be more around 6 foot. Again, just speculation, and EITHER way i’ll be fine with it, just the way i saw it.
How would you know?
Technically the it’s Darth “Z”.
Jeez, Driver is listed in the teaser credits!
Gleeson? Why not? It’s a good possibility of course.
“It’s no secret that actors steal from each other and I’m not afraid to admit I’m guilty of this. I based a lot of it on Heath and what he did with that character.
Aside from the fact that we never really see the inner workings of the Sith/Apprentice relationship (Vader, Maul, etc. just seem to take orders and obey), how do you think the main villain in this film went about/will go about acquiring his apprentice? Does he lie in wait for decades inside a cave like a spider, waiting for the chance to coax an unsuspecting passerby? That sounds too easy. Alternatively, maybe he patiently waits until the appearance of peace is established to pull an unsuspecting mind from grace. Someone, say,….within the ranks of the Peacekeepers themselves. That’s much more sinister, wouldn’t you agree?
And if this person was apart of a certain family legacy, it would make his fall (and redemption) all the more dramatic. And because one can only grieve someone who loves them, who might that person doing the redeeming be? Well, it won’t be said victim’s parents, for they have done their duty already. In another time and place.
Food for thought
If the villian were to lie around for decades, what would a typical day be like? Does he just sit around and watch holonet transmissions all day? Go to the local cantina to look for possible candidates? A simple passerby seems like a strange way to find possible Sith recruits.
Assuming we’re talking about an etherealike Plagueis…who has to remain stationary for whatever reason.
Or he could USE THE FORCE to find someone,
that lookes like a woman.
That’s one way of dealing with your fantasies!
Surprisingly my mother looks like a woman, the more you know
I`m really not sure about this, because seeing the character from different angles front and back gives different body frames. Seeing the teaser trailer video it looks like a mans frame. But the sith in the leaked concept art looks less of a male frame ? more female. And one of the leaked concept art photos shows a lot of females with light sabers. Even one picture shows a female being embraced by the concept cyborg character. But something else that could win the argument that its him is from spoiler mans reddit article saying, “Adam Driver’s character is the leader of Red Squadron. He is a hot shot fighter axe with dreams of grandeur, and has an ominous fascination with power and the Sith. He collects items relating to their order and has a close relationship with a past character who may or may not have fallen to the Dark Side”.
Palpatine lived a double life as a Rupublic Senator, but was really Darth Sidious.
Obviously, JJ likes to plough a familiar path;
Khan – Into Darkness and Wrath Of Khan.
The REAL Question is:
Will it be Darth Bane or Darth Plagueis who mentors & trains “villain x”?
I’ll throw $50 on Bane, even though I’d prefer to see the Muun Sith Lord. Serkis is playing an alien race we’ve never seen and I doubt its some random Cantina freak or any other background character… My best guess is that Bane will no longer be human, either by rewriting the character origins completely or a thousand years of essence transfer(s).
“Random cantina freak.” LOL
I’m sure they’ll cite some bllshit philosophical reason for not casting a woman as a [main] villain. Something about women not being capable of the evil men are.
Although, Disney does have a long history of female villains…
But they have a much longer history of Princesses!
Most of the villains in the princess movies are female. The Evil Queen, Maleficent, Ursula, the Stepmother, etc.
Exactly – that’s the point. They’re ‘Princess’ movies, not ‘Guy’ movies.
You’re being more sexist than anyone! Jesus.
Sometimes I ask myself the tough questions, such as to scratch or not to scratch, or how many foes must a Sith mow down before he (or she) can call himself (or herself) a Sith, or is there really a happy place
I wonder if Joel Edgerton would return as Owen Lars in the proposed Obi Wan movie? It’s possible that the two could be good foils for each other, and Owen seems to have been around a bit. Luke could even appear in a cameo role – he clearly knows Ben in ANH.
Yes let’s have a seven year old Luke. He can build droids and race and stuff
And whine like a bitch.
It’s Gwendoline. Driver is a pilot who will face the Dark Side in the third act. Have his first taste of it, to be more specific.
Supershadow said that it’s him! He said Lucas and JJ asked him personally…..so ALL OF YOU are wrong!!
Gleeson’s about 6ft 1 – so, in theory, it could be him. But the rumor that Driver was playing a Vader-like villain has been around for about a year now.
And Driver looks like a perfect fit (no disrespect, Adam) for a villain!
I wonder if Serkis might be doing the voice for the masked version of Drivers character. That voice concerns me a bit. It’s cool and all but this film could really suffer if it had embarrasing Lord of the Rings style pseudo-poetry dialog like, things like “A shadow and a threat has been growing in my mind”.
“Sith do not want war!”
🙂
…though, don’t get me wrong. I love LOTR all in all. It’s really only the vague elven expositional dialog that brings it to the Twilight level.
…vague elven expositional dialogue that brings LOTR to the twilight level? LOTR was poetry. there is NOTHING in Twilight that even deserves comparison to LOTR. Those books arent even a pimple on the ass of Professor Tolkien’s work.
Yes LOTR is a literary masterpiece and the films have many awesome aspects too but some of Kate and Orlando’s dialog involving “dahkness” and “shadow” are absolutely of the same low caliber as teen vampire fiction and they needlessly undermine the movies’ sense of emotional realness. I don’t want to see that happen with SW 7.
If this was something like Pulp Fiction we would see the villain turn around and surprise its Daisy Ridley and not who everyone thought it was.
I still think it is Christie.
Adam Driver could be playing another villain.
If a New Hope was a Tarantino movie, Han Solo would have spent a really long time in denial about the fact that Greedo missing was a “miracle”… why did Greedo miss?? A scary question…
Why do the posts disappear?
Driver the apprentice to Plagueis? Hummmm
Don’t believe Spoilerman, He is just putting the pieces together for his own “Nothing better to do” pleasure. So some of what he says my come to light on December 18, 2015 solely based on the same information everyone has access to.
How can anyone tell how tall they are in this trailer? 6-3? 6-0″. Seriously? If anyone is basing this off of build or height, you can not tell if it’s Driver or Gleason. Neither one is exactly overwhelming in terms of size in real life especially when he/she is all by themself here. If Gleason has a small role, he wouldn’t have been announced with everyone else.
So every new sith needs their darth title. I wish someone would leak something about some possible ideas what his/her new darth name could be. I as I understand it darth means leaving your old life behind and embracing the new path, something like that. Still no spoilers on this. And the title is chosen by master for the apprentice, so they get no input into name. Interesting.
Darth………?
Darth Wingnut?
Darth Big Duke
Darth Reginald Wienerton, CPA
Darth Humperdink
It’s going to be Darth ruin
there is a possibility that this character is not the cyborg we saw holding darth vader’s mask…this is a possibility http://i.imgur.com/U1MRNzP.jpg
Gwen Christie is thick and tall. There’s no way that Ichabod Crane looking torso belongs to her.
Plus, look at those arms. They come down well past the hips. Look at other photos of the actors people!
Ah okay then ..I’m wrong about Christie.
But I did read months ago of her playing a villain so I’d assumed it was her.
His name is Darth Litigious. And his master is a resurrected Sate Pestage. Old man, fits the bill.
Apparently Sith masters are un-discriminating when it comes to species and age. Palpatine went from Darth Maul to an 80 year old Dooku. Which kind of calls into question the whole acquiring an apprentice from early on thing.Shouldnt sith adhere to the same rules as the Jedi when it come to recruiting? Wouldn’t training an apprentice from adolescence be just as, of not far more effective for a Sith than a Jedi? They are, in fact, both Jedi anyway. They just work different sides of the equation.
“Towards the beginning of your career..” I’m surprised that Edgerton stayed around after such an ignorant statement. The dude’s an Aussie legend with several tons of movies up his sleeve. Sorry, a bit off topic.. But..
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I’ve got just one thing to say. Palpatine is ginger. So is Gleeson.
I really hope Adam Drive isn’t this guy. If we’ve seen him as a pilot in a leak and if he actually is a pilot then I mean where is the time for him to go from whatever he is in the rebel alliance (or whatever they’re called now) to this evil sith lord. The guy in the trailer seems more like he’s been a sith lord, and he may not be the dark lord that is talking, but he still seems like he’s been walking down the dark path for a while, kind of like Darth Maul. I just don’t think it’d make sense IF Adam driver plays that pilot to go from that to this sith who looks like he’s been one for ages
Hate to say this, but maybe Adam gets possessed… :/ iffy, but could work…
Listen to me, all of you. Everyone hates the prequels and JJ won’t ruin this by paying homage to the prequels. The prequels never existed as far as this movie is concerned. This will be based off the original trilogy and that’s it. So when you speculate, don’t even think about the prequels. Don’t think about midichlorians, the words padawan, sith, and mostly, will not be in this movie. The force will again be mysterious and not explained in every detail. There won’t be trade negotiations. There won’t be sappy lame characters. This is a chance for redemption and to try and fix what Lucas did. Forget the prequels and all of their nonsense, they never even existed as far as JJ is concerned. Trust me.
Fuck you
C’mon moderators. There’s a personal attack. Where’s the threat to ban and the deletion of the comment?
But…the prequels actually enhanced the entire star wars universe and made it even more interesting.
Nope.
If that means forget Darth Plagueis too, I´m in! 🙂
you know what??? I fucking HATE the prequels…but you sir are not only a fucktard…but your full of shit. The prequels ARE Canon.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser…: http://youtu.be/plwVRYEQG_I
Have you guys seen the longer trailer? It’s even better than the teaser.
I am impressed they cast an American actor as the lead villain. Normally the Brits get all those roles.
Driver is the villain. I also think the first voice over is Serkis and the second is Driver, the Sith apprentice.
I call the big one bitey
I’m pretty sure that when X turns around… It’ll be Daryl Dixon.
That is a chick ,look at the hips!
Its Princess Leia!
Gone evil.
Well Senator Palpatine did not seem evil to some.
Just kidding really ..but that would be unexpected.
Ummmmm…..she could be as strong as Luke, and she would surely have a lot of anger. Why not Leia?
What is the bad guy is really a bad girl the figure is very slim
at least I want to get hold of a truncheon when seeing is face.
JJ is pissed because none laughs about his jokes on set. It was one of the top selection criteria for the new actors “Are you going to laugh about my jokes on set?” and several of the main cast reportedly are tired of that, and threaten not to hold up that part of their contracts. So in a conniption fit worthy of Darth Furious JJ turned to the dark side and seeks revenge.
New sources describe the hooded man as Darth Piteous who got lost in the woods. His bearings are coulded due to excessive use of the dark side. He bourought his lightsabre from a friend, Darth Fatuous. They are both natives to planet Git.
I still find it hard to believe that is Adam Driver especially with the movement and stance .
Does not seem like a guy.
Unless he’s being controlled by someone
but it is still a strange pose.
Palpatine ‘pretended’ to be just a Senator!
And what about Vader’s subterfuge?
Driver ‘pretends’ to be a rebel pilot, but is really a wannabe Sith.
It’s a theme that runs through SW storylines.
it is a female charcacter with the sithsaber. I came to same conclusion after just watching it before coming here and seeing all the same posts. you can see the hips
Luke it is.Nooo!