More Hints on Who The Villain Is from The Force Awakens Teaser.

The Villain

While there has been quite a bit of speculation about the identity of the hooded figure we see skulking about in the trailer, most people have come to the conclusion that he is being played by Adam Driver. Now, thanks to a little bit of sleuthing from a member of our Cantina forums, there is now additional support to show that the star of HBO’s Girls is playing the part of the tall, dark, and spooky character.

 

From The Cantina:

Rogue 13: Noticed something interesting tonight when I watched the trailer again on my Apple TV. In the information for the trailer, there are two screens of details about the movie/trailer. One screen lists the actors…Boyega, Ridley, Driver, Isaac, and Serkis, and no other actors. The other screen lists the paragraph that talks about the movie and contains the larger list of the cast that have already been confirmed. It could mean those are the ones in the trailer or it could be just that the list is cut off at that spot and those were the ones listed first. I checked the web and the iOS trailers app and didn’t see the same thing there, so who knows.

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The thing that makes this interesting is that four of the five actors have confirmed their presence in the trailer – obviously, Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, and Oscar Isaac all appear with their faces visible, and Andy Serkis confirmed that he was the voice in the trailer. So since we all know that these actors are in the trailer, and none of the other cast was listed, it’s safe to presume that Adam Driver was playing the cloaked figure. When looking on Apple’s website, the cast is listed in the same order, but the rest of the cast is also listed. The site also places the ordering of the cast with the newcomers first and the returning actors and actress afterward. It also should be noted that iTunes also lists Kenny Baker as being on the film even though there has been no evidence of this. Baker was announced with the Official cast announcement back on April 29th, although it seems more of a symbolic gesture.

 

Revenge of the Sith

 

However, there’s another person — a Star Wars alum, in fact — that concurs with fan speculation. Joel Edgerton, who played Owen Lars in the Prequel trilogy, is willing to bet money that “Villain X” is portrayed by Adam Driver. In an interview he gave GQ British, Edgerton conveyed his thoughts about The Force Awakens teaser trailer:

Towards the beginning of your career, you were in the Star Wars prequels – what did you make of the trailer for The Force Awakens?

 

I loved it! It’s old school, I love the new lightsaber – the way those two little crossbars shot out, it’s really cool stuff. It was such a short trailer, but it definitely got me going. I’m a massive fan, and I was working with Adam Driver actually [on Midnight Special] just around the time that he got the gig, and I was like, “Tell me who you’re going to play?” He said, “I can’t tell you anything!” I’m pretty certain, and I don’t know this for a fact, but just knowing how tall Adam is, and how he moves, and the fact that there was chatter on the internet that he was going to play the equivalent of a Darth Vader, it’s got to be him with that red lightsaber. The way he’s moving, when he walks through the forest. He definitely hasn’t told me that, he’s an air-tight ship. But I would lay $50 on that for sure.

 

Edgerton isn’t involved with the production obviously, but having worked with Driver is in a special position to opine about this. Surely the actor of this mysterious “Villain X” will be revealed in due time, but for now there is no official confirmation.  Barring some surprise cast member or a complete role reversal from what we’ve heard — think Gwendoline Christie — it’s very plausible that “Villain X” is played by Adam Driver.  As always stay locked on the StarWars7News target for all the  Star Wars news, rumors, and speculations as we get them.

 

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109 thoughts on “More Hints on Who The Villain Is from The Force Awakens Teaser.

  • December 5, 2014 at 7:26 pm
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    SPOILER: he is me.

    • December 5, 2014 at 11:47 pm
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      Does the SpoilerMan confirm that?

      • December 9, 2014 at 12:42 pm
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        awosome i like your light saber

    • December 7, 2014 at 8:31 pm
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      I think it could very possibly be driver but just as likely it could be Gwen Christie. Only make this speculation due to how the character walks, and gets into the fighting posture. Both are similar to Christie in game of thrones. I just went back and watched all of her fight sequences in game of thrones. They’re very similar. It’s a total toss up but with as much as we know about JJ, how he likes to throw people for a loop. Not to mention how apparent it is that Disney is wanting to include more females in all of their productions. Which I’m also more than fine with, given that it’s done right, and makes plausible sense to the story.

  • December 5, 2014 at 7:30 pm
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    SpoilerMan confirmed it was Driver a week ago, you guys are both tardy and pretty inept

    • December 5, 2014 at 8:01 pm
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      Since when SpoilerMan can actually “confirm” anything? What he says means nothing until proven. That’s no “confirmation” at all

    • December 5, 2014 at 8:29 pm
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      SpoilerMan’s a hack. You’re an idiot if you believe what they report.

      • December 6, 2014 at 12:22 am
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        Spoilerman has as much credibility as any of them out there (maybe more than most). Take your pick.

    • December 5, 2014 at 10:19 pm
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      Even this is concrete conformation so your comment is stupid.

      • December 5, 2014 at 10:20 pm
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        Is NOT***

  • December 5, 2014 at 7:31 pm
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    Wasnt there a pic going around of driver in an orange rebel tie fighter suit?

    • December 5, 2014 at 8:47 pm
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      there are rumors that he is playing the villan secretly, that he is both the sith and also the leader of red squadron (same character though)

    • December 5, 2014 at 9:23 pm
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      Remember that scene in The Dark Knight when the Joker was dressed in that police uniform?
      Yeah.

  • December 5, 2014 at 7:33 pm
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    50$ isn’t a whole lot of your THAT sure …..

    • December 6, 2014 at 3:55 am
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      To a working actor it is.
      You’ll get that joke if you are one.

  • December 5, 2014 at 7:33 pm
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    *if

  • December 5, 2014 at 7:49 pm
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    Really wanna know who Gleeson is playing.

    A Skywalker?

    • December 5, 2014 at 8:34 pm
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      Nope. He has minor role in movie. He plays young Paplatine in flashback scenes.

      • December 5, 2014 at 8:40 pm
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        So if that’s true then the reason behind the flashback is to show an interaction with Plagueis. .

        But Star Wars doesn’t use flashbacks..

        • December 5, 2014 at 9:41 pm
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          Not yet.

          • December 7, 2014 at 8:42 am
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            Ahhh, flashbacks, the long distant relatives of lense flares and close relatives of the positive or negative feelings one gets whilst in the midst of a thunderstorm

      • December 5, 2014 at 10:04 pm
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        Fuck off with the flashback bullshit already. There hasn’t been a flashback scene in a Star Wars film so far so why start now?

        • December 5, 2014 at 10:58 pm
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          We also never saw a lightsaber with a crossbar in Star Wars before, but Disney decided now was a fine time to start with that. I hate the idea of flashbacks on Star Wars, I hope if they do then they are at least a vision or a hologram rather than just a strait narrative device. Still- JJ has said he is going to have nostalgia, but he is not above changing things a lot if he thinks it serves the story

          • December 5, 2014 at 11:45 pm
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            Does not equate. One is a prop, another is a storytelling method which gets into the very style that makes Star Wars what it is. Any “flashback” scenes should be done as holographic recordings like we saw in rotten (I mean ROTS).

  • December 5, 2014 at 7:52 pm
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    It’s not even driver, but k.

    It’s Gleeson….

    i won’t stop saying that until it’s otherwise proven, but im 99.9% sure, it’s Gleeson playing our “X”

    • December 5, 2014 at 8:27 pm
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      But, Gleeson is a skinny dude with narrow shoulders. Did you even watch the teaser? The villain there has decent mass on him and has broad shoulders.

      • December 5, 2014 at 8:39 pm
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        No, i watched it, but it doesn’t seem to be a “Very” big dude. Also Driver isn’t very big mass wise (he’s also 6’3-6’4) the character seems to be more around 6 foot. Again, just speculation, and EITHER way i’ll be fine with it, just the way i saw it.

    • December 5, 2014 at 9:42 pm
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      Technically the it’s Darth “Z”.

    • December 5, 2014 at 11:05 pm
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      Jeez, Driver is listed in the teaser credits!

    • December 5, 2014 at 11:35 pm
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      Gleeson? Why not? It’s a good possibility of course.

  • December 5, 2014 at 8:18 pm
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    “It’s no secret that actors steal from each other and I’m not afraid to admit I’m guilty of this. I based a lot of it on Heath and what he did with that character.

  • December 5, 2014 at 8:21 pm
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    Aside from the fact that we never really see the inner workings of the Sith/Apprentice relationship (Vader, Maul, etc. just seem to take orders and obey), how do you think the main villain in this film went about/will go about acquiring his apprentice? Does he lie in wait for decades inside a cave like a spider, waiting for the chance to coax an unsuspecting passerby? That sounds too easy. Alternatively, maybe he patiently waits until the appearance of peace is established to pull an unsuspecting mind from grace. Someone, say,….within the ranks of the Peacekeepers themselves. That’s much more sinister, wouldn’t you agree?

    And if this person was apart of a certain family legacy, it would make his fall (and redemption) all the more dramatic. And because one can only grieve someone who loves them, who might that person doing the redeeming be? Well, it won’t be said victim’s parents, for they have done their duty already. In another time and place.

    Food for thought

    • December 5, 2014 at 8:52 pm
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      If the villian were to lie around for decades, what would a typical day be like? Does he just sit around and watch holonet transmissions all day? Go to the local cantina to look for possible candidates? A simple passerby seems like a strange way to find possible Sith recruits.

      • December 5, 2014 at 9:10 pm
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        Assuming we’re talking about an etherealike Plagueis…who has to remain stationary for whatever reason.

      • December 6, 2014 at 5:03 pm
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        Or he could USE THE FORCE to find someone,

  • December 5, 2014 at 8:28 pm
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    that lookes like a woman.

    • December 5, 2014 at 9:34 pm
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      That’s one way of dealing with your fantasies!

    • December 7, 2014 at 8:47 am
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      Surprisingly my mother looks like a woman, the more you know

  • December 5, 2014 at 8:45 pm
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    I`m really not sure about this, because seeing the character from different angles front and back gives different body frames. Seeing the teaser trailer video it looks like a mans frame. But the sith in the leaked concept art looks less of a male frame ? more female. And one of the leaked concept art photos shows a lot of females with light sabers. Even one picture shows a female being embraced by the concept cyborg character. But something else that could win the argument that its him is from spoiler mans reddit article saying, “Adam Driver’s character is the leader of Red Squadron. He is a hot shot fighter axe with dreams of grandeur, and has an ominous fascination with power and the Sith. He collects items relating to their order and has a close relationship with a past character who may or may not have fallen to the Dark Side”.

    • December 5, 2014 at 9:42 pm
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      Palpatine lived a double life as a Rupublic Senator, but was really Darth Sidious.
      Obviously, JJ likes to plough a familiar path;
      Khan – Into Darkness and Wrath Of Khan.

  • December 5, 2014 at 8:45 pm
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    The REAL Question is:
    Will it be Darth Bane or Darth Plagueis who mentors & trains “villain x”?

    I’ll throw $50 on Bane, even though I’d prefer to see the Muun Sith Lord. Serkis is playing an alien race we’ve never seen and I doubt its some random Cantina freak or any other background character… My best guess is that Bane will no longer be human, either by rewriting the character origins completely or a thousand years of essence transfer(s).

    • January 15, 2015 at 3:20 pm
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      “Random cantina freak.” LOL

  • December 5, 2014 at 8:47 pm
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    I’m sure they’ll cite some bllshit philosophical reason for not casting a woman as a [main] villain. Something about women not being capable of the evil men are.

    • December 5, 2014 at 8:55 pm
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      Although, Disney does have a long history of female villains…

      • December 5, 2014 at 9:45 pm
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        But they have a much longer history of Princesses!

        • December 6, 2014 at 12:09 am
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          Most of the villains in the princess movies are female. The Evil Queen, Maleficent, Ursula, the Stepmother, etc.

          • December 6, 2014 at 12:27 am
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            Exactly – that’s the point. They’re ‘Princess’ movies, not ‘Guy’ movies.

          • December 6, 2014 at 9:13 pm
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            You’re being more sexist than anyone! Jesus.

          • December 7, 2014 at 8:51 am
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            Sometimes I ask myself the tough questions, such as to scratch or not to scratch, or how many foes must a Sith mow down before he (or she) can call himself (or herself) a Sith, or is there really a happy place

  • December 5, 2014 at 8:56 pm
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    I wonder if Joel Edgerton would return as Owen Lars in the proposed Obi Wan movie? It’s possible that the two could be good foils for each other, and Owen seems to have been around a bit. Luke could even appear in a cameo role – he clearly knows Ben in ANH.

    • December 5, 2014 at 9:22 pm
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      Yes let’s have a seven year old Luke. He can build droids and race and stuff

      • December 5, 2014 at 9:52 pm
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        And whine like a bitch.

  • December 5, 2014 at 9:21 pm
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    It’s Gwendoline. Driver is a pilot who will face the Dark Side in the third act. Have his first taste of it, to be more specific.

  • December 5, 2014 at 9:25 pm
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    Supershadow said that it’s him! He said Lucas and JJ asked him personally…..so ALL OF YOU are wrong!!

  • December 5, 2014 at 9:27 pm
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    Gleeson’s about 6ft 1 – so, in theory, it could be him. But the rumor that Driver was playing a Vader-like villain has been around for about a year now.
    And Driver looks like a perfect fit (no disrespect, Adam) for a villain!

  • December 5, 2014 at 10:32 pm
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    I wonder if Serkis might be doing the voice for the masked version of Drivers character. That voice concerns me a bit. It’s cool and all but this film could really suffer if it had embarrasing Lord of the Rings style pseudo-poetry dialog like, things like “A shadow and a threat has been growing in my mind”.

    • December 5, 2014 at 11:18 pm
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      “Sith do not want war!”

  • December 5, 2014 at 10:36 pm
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    🙂

  • December 5, 2014 at 10:39 pm
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    …though, don’t get me wrong. I love LOTR all in all. It’s really only the vague elven expositional dialog that brings it to the Twilight level.

    • December 5, 2014 at 11:12 pm
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      …vague elven expositional dialogue that brings LOTR to the twilight level? LOTR was poetry. there is NOTHING in Twilight that even deserves comparison to LOTR. Those books arent even a pimple on the ass of Professor Tolkien’s work.

      • December 6, 2014 at 4:47 am
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        Yes LOTR is a literary masterpiece and the films have many awesome aspects too but some of Kate and Orlando’s dialog involving “dahkness” and “shadow” are absolutely of the same low caliber as teen vampire fiction and they needlessly undermine the movies’ sense of emotional realness. I don’t want to see that happen with SW 7.

  • December 5, 2014 at 11:29 pm
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    If this was something like Pulp Fiction we would see the villain turn around and surprise its Daisy Ridley and not who everyone thought it was.

    I still think it is Christie.
    Adam Driver could be playing another villain.

    • December 6, 2014 at 5:09 pm
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      If a New Hope was a Tarantino movie, Han Solo would have spent a really long time in denial about the fact that Greedo missing was a “miracle”… why did Greedo miss?? A scary question…

  • December 5, 2014 at 11:42 pm
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    Why do the posts disappear?

  • December 5, 2014 at 11:42 pm
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    Driver the apprentice to Plagueis? Hummmm

  • December 5, 2014 at 11:58 pm
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    Don’t believe Spoilerman, He is just putting the pieces together for his own “Nothing better to do” pleasure. So some of what he says my come to light on December 18, 2015 solely based on the same information everyone has access to.

  • December 6, 2014 at 12:54 am
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    How can anyone tell how tall they are in this trailer? 6-3? 6-0″. Seriously? If anyone is basing this off of build or height, you can not tell if it’s Driver or Gleason. Neither one is exactly overwhelming in terms of size in real life especially when he/she is all by themself here. If Gleason has a small role, he wouldn’t have been announced with everyone else.

  • December 6, 2014 at 2:23 am
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    So every new sith needs their darth title. I wish someone would leak something about some possible ideas what his/her new darth name could be. I as I understand it darth means leaving your old life behind and embracing the new path, something like that. Still no spoilers on this. And the title is chosen by master for the apprentice, so they get no input into name. Interesting.

    Darth………?

    • December 6, 2014 at 3:49 am
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      Darth Wingnut?

      • December 6, 2014 at 4:29 am
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        Darth Big Duke

        • December 6, 2014 at 4:40 pm
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          Darth Reginald Wienerton, CPA

          • December 7, 2014 at 9:35 am
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            Darth Humperdink

    • December 6, 2014 at 9:59 pm
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      It’s going to be Darth ruin

  • December 6, 2014 at 3:06 am
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    there is a possibility that this character is not the cyborg we saw holding darth vader’s mask…this is a possibility http://i.imgur.com/U1MRNzP.jpg

  • December 6, 2014 at 4:01 am
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    Gwen Christie is thick and tall. There’s no way that Ichabod Crane looking torso belongs to her.

  • December 6, 2014 at 4:03 am
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    Plus, look at those arms. They come down well past the hips. Look at other photos of the actors people!

  • December 6, 2014 at 6:03 am
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    Ah okay then ..I’m wrong about Christie.
    But I did read months ago of her playing a villain so I’d assumed it was her.

  • December 6, 2014 at 7:27 am
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    His name is Darth Litigious. And his master is a resurrected Sate Pestage. Old man, fits the bill.

  • December 6, 2014 at 8:50 am
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    Apparently Sith masters are un-discriminating when it comes to species and age. Palpatine went from Darth Maul to an 80 year old Dooku. Which kind of calls into question the whole acquiring an apprentice from early on thing.Shouldnt sith adhere to the same rules as the Jedi when it come to recruiting? Wouldn’t training an apprentice from adolescence be just as, of not far more effective for a Sith than a Jedi? They are, in fact, both Jedi anyway. They just work different sides of the equation.

  • December 6, 2014 at 9:38 am
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    “Towards the beginning of your career..” I’m surprised that Edgerton stayed around after such an ignorant statement. The dude’s an Aussie legend with several tons of movies up his sleeve. Sorry, a bit off topic.. But..

  • December 6, 2014 at 9:43 am
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    Star wars rocks

    • December 7, 2014 at 9:38 am
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      And Star Wars boots sold here too! Get all yer Star Wars merchandise!

  • December 6, 2014 at 9:47 am
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    I’ve got just one thing to say. Palpatine is ginger. So is Gleeson.

  • December 6, 2014 at 4:32 pm
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    I really hope Adam Drive isn’t this guy. If we’ve seen him as a pilot in a leak and if he actually is a pilot then I mean where is the time for him to go from whatever he is in the rebel alliance (or whatever they’re called now) to this evil sith lord. The guy in the trailer seems more like he’s been a sith lord, and he may not be the dark lord that is talking, but he still seems like he’s been walking down the dark path for a while, kind of like Darth Maul. I just don’t think it’d make sense IF Adam driver plays that pilot to go from that to this sith who looks like he’s been one for ages

  • December 6, 2014 at 5:12 pm
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    Hate to say this, but maybe Adam gets possessed… :/ iffy, but could work…

  • December 6, 2014 at 6:00 pm
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    Listen to me, all of you. Everyone hates the prequels and JJ won’t ruin this by paying homage to the prequels. The prequels never existed as far as this movie is concerned. This will be based off the original trilogy and that’s it. So when you speculate, don’t even think about the prequels. Don’t think about midichlorians, the words padawan, sith, and mostly, will not be in this movie. The force will again be mysterious and not explained in every detail. There won’t be trade negotiations. There won’t be sappy lame characters. This is a chance for redemption and to try and fix what Lucas did. Forget the prequels and all of their nonsense, they never even existed as far as JJ is concerned. Trust me.

    • December 7, 2014 at 6:38 am
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      Fuck you

      • December 7, 2014 at 8:54 am
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        C’mon moderators. There’s a personal attack. Where’s the threat to ban and the deletion of the comment?

    • December 7, 2014 at 8:18 am
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      But…the prequels actually enhanced the entire star wars universe and made it even more interesting.

      • December 7, 2014 at 8:55 am
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        Nope.

    • December 8, 2014 at 12:43 am
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      If that means forget Darth Plagueis too, I´m in! 🙂

    • December 10, 2014 at 6:47 am
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      you know what??? I fucking HATE the prequels…but you sir are not only a fucktard…but your full of shit. The prequels ARE Canon.

  • December 6, 2014 at 6:53 pm
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    Star Wars: The Force Awakens International Teaser…: http://youtu.be/plwVRYEQG_I

    Have you guys seen the longer trailer? It’s even better than the teaser.

  • December 6, 2014 at 8:32 pm
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    I am impressed they cast an American actor as the lead villain. Normally the Brits get all those roles.

    Driver is the villain. I also think the first voice over is Serkis and the second is Driver, the Sith apprentice.

  • December 7, 2014 at 12:11 am
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    I call the big one bitey

  • December 7, 2014 at 2:30 pm
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    I’m pretty sure that when X turns around… It’ll be Daryl Dixon.

  • December 7, 2014 at 3:14 pm
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    That is a chick ,look at the hips!

  • December 7, 2014 at 10:37 pm
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    Its Princess Leia!
    Gone evil.

    Well Senator Palpatine did not seem evil to some.

    • December 7, 2014 at 10:37 pm
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      Just kidding really ..but that would be unexpected.

    • January 15, 2015 at 3:26 pm
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      Ummmmm…..she could be as strong as Luke, and she would surely have a lot of anger. Why not Leia?

  • December 8, 2014 at 2:37 am
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    What is the bad guy is really a bad girl the figure is very slim

  • December 8, 2014 at 2:47 pm
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    at least I want to get hold of a truncheon when seeing is face.

    • December 8, 2014 at 2:56 pm
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      JJ is pissed because none laughs about his jokes on set. It was one of the top selection criteria for the new actors “Are you going to laugh about my jokes on set?” and several of the main cast reportedly are tired of that, and threaten not to hold up that part of their contracts. So in a conniption fit worthy of Darth Furious JJ turned to the dark side and seeks revenge.

  • December 8, 2014 at 3:02 pm
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    New sources describe the hooded man as Darth Piteous who got lost in the woods. His bearings are coulded due to excessive use of the dark side. He bourought his lightsabre from a friend, Darth Fatuous. They are both natives to planet Git.

  • December 9, 2014 at 6:29 pm
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    I still find it hard to believe that is Adam Driver especially with the movement and stance .

    Does not seem like a guy.
    Unless he’s being controlled by someone
    but it is still a strange pose.

    • December 11, 2014 at 7:11 pm
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      Palpatine ‘pretended’ to be just a Senator!
      And what about Vader’s subterfuge?
      Driver ‘pretends’ to be a rebel pilot, but is really a wannabe Sith.
      It’s a theme that runs through SW storylines.

  • December 18, 2014 at 9:38 pm
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    it is a female charcacter with the sithsaber. I came to same conclusion after just watching it before coming here and seeing all the same posts. you can see the hips

  • January 11, 2015 at 8:20 am
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    Luke it is.Nooo!

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