The Last Jedi: Rian Johnson Explains Why Luke Used the Blue Lightsaber in the Climactic Battle with Kylo Ren

Many viewers were no doubt confused during the final battle between Luke Skywalker and Kylo Ren in The Last Jedi, especially when Luke ignited his father’s blue lightsaber (which was shattered in two just a few scenes before) instead of his own green lightsaber. Speaking with IGN, director Rian Johnson revealed his reasoning behind this decision and also shed more light on why Kylo Ren didn’t recognize his grandfather’s lightsaber during their duel.

 

 

It has been discussed several times before that Rian Johnson planted multiple hints in the final battle between Luke and Kylo, showing us that the Master Jedi is actually not there. While the blue lightsaber is one of these hints, there is also a particular reason why Luke decided to use it instead of his own green lightsaber. Here’s what Rian said to IGN:

[Luke] is basically tailoring this projection to have maximum effect on Kylo,” Johnson explained. “He knows that Kylo’s Achilles heel is his rage, and so that’s why he kind of makes himself look younger, the way Kylo would’ve last seen him in their confrontation at the temple, and that’s why he decided to bring Kylo’s grandfather’s lightsaber down there — the lightsaber that Kylo screamed at Rey, ‘that’s mine, that belongs to me.’

 

 

Now remains the question, why didn’t Kylo react to the appearance of this lightsaber, which we saw split in two just mere moments before that? Rian has the answer for that too:

We as an audience saw that… The truth is, we see the lightsaber split in half — Kylo sees a blinding flash of light and is knocked unconscious, and then Rey takes the lightsaber away before he wakes up,” he said. “So if you really want to dig into it and get an explanation, you can say that he doesn’t 100 percent know what happened to the lightsaber.

 

 

We know how much Kylo is fond of his grandfather’s possessions from The Force Awakens, and it was a clever move by Luke to use Anakin’s weapon so that his nephew would be even more blinded to the trick the Jedi was pulling. But even without this explanation, I think the scene works perfectly well. It is very obvious that Kylo is consumed by his rage towards his uncle, and I think he wouldn’t have noticed even if Luke was using Mace Windu’s purple lightsaber.

 

 

And now it’s time to ask what you thought when you saw Luke staring down the AT-M6 assault and surviving the full barrage from the First Order. Did you think he was just too powerful or that something else was going on? My first reaction in my first viewing was that the walkers killed the Jedi with their first shot and what we saw next was Luke’s Force ghost. What did you think?

 

 

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443 thoughts on “The Last Jedi: Rian Johnson Explains Why Luke Used the Blue Lightsaber in the Climactic Battle with Kylo Ren

  • January 12, 2018 at 5:32 pm
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    He used a blue lightsaber because we all expected Luke to use a green one. Our expectations were subverted, thus in conclusion Rian Johnson is a genius and you aren’t allowed to say anything critical about The Last Jedi.

    • January 12, 2018 at 5:52 pm
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      That movie was rife with “gotcha” moments. So many that it went from being suprising to annoying.

      • January 12, 2018 at 6:56 pm
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        I wasn’t put off by those so much as I thought the humor (at times) was a little forced

        • January 12, 2018 at 7:42 pm
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          The misplaced humor was the #1 thing I disliked about the movie.

    • January 12, 2018 at 6:01 pm
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      Are you saying that someone is stopping you from expressing your critical opinion?

      • January 12, 2018 at 6:44 pm
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        If you want to know what he means, go to Reddit and try to have an opinion against this movie. You’ll love the downvoting and name-calling.

        • January 12, 2018 at 7:01 pm
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          Go anywhere and try to have any sort of critical opinion of the movie and literally some jackass with a bubble pipe and a cardigan sweater who loves the smell of their own farts comes out of the blue says subverting expectations a bunch of times, says what do you want a rehash of ESB? Or you just didn’t get the complex THEMES of the movie like it’s some painting in the fucking MOMA.

      • January 12, 2018 at 8:16 pm
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        That is not what I am saying.

  • January 12, 2018 at 5:36 pm
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    I don’t recall the last time a director had to come out and explain every detail of his movie to the fans. If you have to come out and explain it outside of the movie, I think that means the delivery of what he was trying to get across did not work.

    • January 12, 2018 at 5:39 pm
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      It’s almost if he running out on screen and yelling gotcha! at every moment didn’t work in the film! Almost…

      • January 13, 2018 at 3:29 pm
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        Nailed it. Exactly my prob with TLJ — I can practically hear Rian’s voice saying “Gotcha” every five minutes. And that makes it impossible for me, at least, to lose myself in the movie.

    • January 12, 2018 at 5:40 pm
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      JJ did exactly the same for TFA, just look at articles from 2 years ago. It’s called PR.

      • January 12, 2018 at 7:07 pm
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        And when JJ did it, he was explaining gaps in logic, where Rian is just discussing the deeper meaning of certain scenes. The fan vendetta against this movie continues to be absurd.

    • January 12, 2018 at 5:47 pm
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      Exactly what I was thinking! If the audience is so confused, you didn’t do a good job. For TFA, it was different. There were curious questions and mysteries brought up. Not just confusion. Rian is a hack.

      • January 12, 2018 at 7:59 pm
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        “Rian is a hack.”

        Lol. I heard the same complaint said about J.J.

        • January 13, 2018 at 2:51 am
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          And Lucas was a hack until the Sequels. It’s a safe bet that after IX comes out, Rian will be loved and JJ hated again. But JJ just has to wait until Rian’s trilogy, then the lovefest is reversed yet again.

          • January 13, 2018 at 3:26 am
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            Lol. Will be Ron Howard next. He’s destined to be the next “Hack”.

            Both J.J. and Johnson can stand down… for now.

          • January 13, 2018 at 3:56 am
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            Rian Johnson: “I just trolled Star Wars fans better than anyone could imagine.”

            Ron Howard: “Hold my beer.”

          • January 13, 2018 at 7:50 am
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            And pooor Gareth Edwards is left out in the cold.

          • January 13, 2018 at 3:23 pm
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            Gareth has something special. Despite my big gripes with Rogue One’s script (or seeming lack of one), Gareth’s visual style is on point. Team that guy up with an exceptional writer, and I’d say there’d be much less of a divide between Star Wars fans.

          • January 13, 2018 at 5:10 pm
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            He tried. He took away the opening crawl and made a Star Wars movie without John Williams, but the fickle fans were too damn accepting of him.

          • January 13, 2018 at 10:45 am
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            LMAO!

    • January 12, 2018 at 6:04 pm
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      When you are promoting a newly released movie you have to answer questions. When the press asks you about something it is a good habit to reply to them. Are you saying that Rian is organizing these interviews to explain the movie?

    • January 12, 2018 at 6:04 pm
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      When you are promoting a newly released movie you have to answer questions. When the press asks you about something it is a good habit to reply to them. Are you saying that Rian is organizing these interviews to explain the movie?

      • January 12, 2018 at 6:27 pm
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        I agree, he is not calling his favorite interviewers and telling them he needs a platform for explaining why he did what he did. It is the amount of inconsistencies seen in the movie and the follow up questions, like this one that are making it appear like RJ is trying to cover up the mistakes he made.

        • January 12, 2018 at 6:54 pm
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          I met him at SW Celebrations… this was (of course) hours before anyone got to see the trailer (which we all went nuts over) and you could tell he was passionate about the movie. The thing I heard him say over and over to the thousands of us camped out overnight to get a seat was that he was so appreciative of our enthusiasm, that he couldn’t wait to share some of what he had done… he wanted to talk… he loved what he did. I assume this is still true 🙂

          • January 12, 2018 at 6:56 pm
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            When our toddler takes a dump you see the same expression of accomplishment on his little face. Adorable.

      • January 12, 2018 at 6:52 pm
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        #conspiracyTheory… LucasFilm is using the Force to compel questions to be asked

      • January 12, 2018 at 6:52 pm
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        #conspiracyTheory… LucasFilm is using the Force to compel questions to be asked

    • January 12, 2018 at 6:31 pm
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      It’s a Star Wars fan thing.

      Since the fan resurgence with the Special Editions, they’ve had to have in-universe explanations for everything, treating all things that happen and all faces as needing in-depth Wookieepedia entries.

      My first viewing, in the moments thoughts were some sort of Jedi Master trick, then the haircut, Just For Men (thanks @Jimsy), and blue sabre gave away him not being there.

      • January 12, 2018 at 7:38 pm
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        yes, its the fans fault that the EU existed, the prequels existed and any medium that explains the universe in any detail existed.

        • January 12, 2018 at 8:19 pm
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          You misunderstand me.

          In another era, Luke showing up on Crait with a blue lightsaber would have just been one of those things that just was, and we fans would have been “forced” to come up with our own theories as to why. For years, we could look at it as a small detail that tipped the audience off as to what was actually happening, and we would have had someone point out that this would probably have helped to enrage Kylo Ren. Or is it just a technical error and oversight like Vader’s white saber after he kills Obi-Wan and walks to the Falcon as the blast door closes?

          But that’s not how Star Wars fandom works anymore. Everything must be explained clearly on-screen and in canon or it’s a massive fail. We don’t work it out for ourselves any more. Quick, ask the writer/director what’s going on! And then when he answers complain that he needed to explain it, so the movie must suck!

          For 24 years, the Clone Wars were just a throwaway line that people imagined. What would GL have been subjected to if he had to answer for every little detail he put in that movie. Part of the awesomeness of the OT was using your imagination to fill in the gaps. I’m disappointed that no one wants to expend that energy or brainpower anymore.

          And finally, my own dismissal of non-film (OT, ST) sources is not meant to belittle those who care deeply for them. It’s just my own form of passionate fandom that makes me happy.

          • January 12, 2018 at 9:11 pm
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            That’s the problem though, once upon a time the OT was all the canon we had, then they made a conscious effort to fill in all the gaps with novels, comics, video games, etc. They want fans to care about every little detail so they keep buying the supplemental material that will explain it. I agree that it would be better to simply suspend our disbelief a little, but here we are.

          • January 12, 2018 at 9:11 pm
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            That’s the problem though, once upon a time the OT was all the canon we had, then they made a conscious effort to fill in all the gaps with novels, comics, video games, etc. They want fans to care about every little detail so they keep buying the supplemental material that will explain it. I agree that it would be better to simply suspend our disbelief a little, but here we are.

          • January 13, 2018 at 2:48 am
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            Right, because all those supplemental materials definitely weren’t cash grabs with the Star Wars logo thrown on. But Disney investing 4 billion and getting Ford, Fisher, Hamill,
            Williams, and Kasdan involved is nothing but greed.

    • January 12, 2018 at 6:49 pm
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      Literally every movie that has ever done a press tour. Ever.

      Usually, nobody really pays attention.

    • January 12, 2018 at 6:50 pm
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      I don’t recall many other movies where the fans were this obsessed with every minute detail of the colour of the mold on the rocks on the shore verses the leaf colour near settlements, and which colouration made the plants “male”

      • January 12, 2018 at 10:22 pm
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        Did you become a Starwars fan thus year? There no way RJ shoukdnt gave known this movie would be not only be judged on the whole, but on minor detail too. Ep. 7 was, but it left us wondering. This one left many dissapointed, and for good reason.

      • January 13, 2018 at 2:45 am
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        Exactly, it didn’t NEED to be explained. No other movies have this much scrutiny by obsessive fans so the questions will be asked. Rian’s answer is perfectly reasonable, but I guess some people would prefer he tell interviewers to piss off.

      • January 13, 2018 at 8:40 pm
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        he’s justifying himself for odd choices he made with script and storytelling. it’s not the details it’s the core of the movie

    • January 13, 2018 at 9:47 pm
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      You shoud follow the site more, instead of just bullying. WHat could we talk about then in the next topic? ” how septumus ideas were not respected in TLJ”? “why… why can’ Luke be the leading hero one more time???? I’m and old granpa, and i reaaly wanted to see ESB part II and ROTJ part II before dying”

  • January 12, 2018 at 5:42 pm
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    OMG OMG WHY OH WHY RIAN RUIN JOHNSON YOU RUINED MY CHILDHOOD I AM PHYSICALLY ABUSED

  • January 12, 2018 at 5:44 pm
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    I noticed that Luke’s beard was different and did not have the grey in it. At my first viewing, I was thinking he just took the time to clean himself up and Chewbaca went back for him after he dropped Rey off at Snokes ship. I didn’t notice the blue light saber or the fact that Luke didn’t disturb the white soil. As far as surviving the barrage without a scratch I figured this was something a Jedi master could do and would be explained later. Thus the ending of the movie and to see Luke still on Ach-To and then die was a shock.

  • January 12, 2018 at 5:45 pm
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    Blue milk – blue lightsaber . . . DUH !

  • January 12, 2018 at 5:46 pm
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    Next headline —

    “Rian Johnson Explains Why His Film Needs So Much Explaining”

    (I know… I know — it’s cause we “Just. Don’t. Understand.”)

    😉

    • January 12, 2018 at 6:26 pm
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      No, it is because there was some guy from IGN asking him questions and he answered. That’s why. Oh god, these people.

      • January 12, 2018 at 6:32 pm
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        That’s exactly what I think about IGN too.

      • January 12, 2018 at 6:32 pm
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        That’s exactly what I think about IGN too.

    • January 12, 2018 at 6:42 pm
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      I don’t know… I got it. Sure, there were things I missed that on second viewing (or discussion) I got greater understanding of, but I got the basic gist of the movie on first view… Same can be said of The Godfather, or Legends of the Fall, or most movies…

      • January 12, 2018 at 6:46 pm
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        Getting it and actually being entertained by it are two different animals.

        PS
        On first glance I thought your avatar pic was a uterus & pair of ovaries. Is that intentionally subliminal?

        • January 12, 2018 at 6:52 pm
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          Just like cancer.

          • January 12, 2018 at 6:53 pm
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            I like you.

    • January 12, 2018 at 7:42 pm
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      Yep – just like these films are not planned ahead, to a lot of what we’ve seen is similar to Lucas’s vision…

      I enjoyed TLJ, but so far the Saga is falling a bit flat for me and shouldn’t need such small things explained or excuses used to shift the focus on whom may have had the original concept.

    • January 12, 2018 at 10:19 pm
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      I imagine JJ has to feel vindicated. Although his story followed the OT arch, it had more original threads.

      • January 12, 2018 at 10:24 pm
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        Oh hell yes he does.

        And Daisy & the cast feel a huge wave of relief going forward.

    • January 13, 2018 at 9:03 pm
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      So what would you suggest the site talk about? Why, in 1977 the empire didn’t explode R2D2 C3pO escape ship? Why did it take 40 years to explain how is the death star so vulnerable? Or 22 year to explain who the hell is the emperor? does he even have a name???? Why do peoprle return here , I site that exists now to talk about SW movie details?

      • January 13, 2018 at 9:09 pm
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        I couln’t tell ya, friend. But I’d wholeheartedly recommend you ask the content creators of this site if those questions keep you up at night.

        I’m just here for the free beer.

    • January 13, 2018 at 9:33 pm
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      OT needed plenty of explanation — see Rogue One (and still needs: how long has Luke’s trainning with Yoda lasted? Why Yoda and Ben hide form the fight? Why did Leia took the Death Star to the rebel base? Why the destruction of Death Star doesn’t destroy Endor?). But, then people weren’t transformed in freak-granpa-fanatics-whith-no-life by SW yet

    • January 13, 2018 at 9:33 pm
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      OT needed plenty of explanation — see Rogue One (and still needs: how long has Luke’s trainning with Yoda lasted? Why Yoda and Ben hide form the fight? Why did Leia took the Death Star to the rebel base? Why the destruction of Death Star doesn’t destroy Endor?). But, then people weren’t transformed in freak-granpa-fanatics-whith-no-life by SW yet

  • January 12, 2018 at 6:49 pm
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    I would still like an explanation as to why Luke was treated so unfairly and poorly in this film. In his sendoff film, Luke doesn’t wield his lightsaber, fly his x-wing, or teach Rey hardly anything. Why? Imagine if Han Solo had been treated similarly in The Force Awakens. Wouldn’t people be upset that Han never uses his blaster, never flies the Falcon, or shares just a single, brief scene with Chewy? I think they would be. So why is Luke treated differently?

    • January 12, 2018 at 7:09 pm
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      Say what? We saw him teach Rey about the Force, we saw him interact again with Leia, Chewie, R2 and Yoda, we saw him wield BOTH lightsabers, and we saw him perform the most epic Jedi Mind Trick ever.

      And what you wanted to see was a 60 year old Luke flying an X-Wing and firing a blaster again?? I can’t think of anything that would have been more cheesy and uninspired.

      • January 12, 2018 at 7:16 pm
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        Wielding a lightsaber is a bit of a stretch. It’s more of he took out his lightsaber. Wielding implies that he actually uses it in which he doesn’t.

        • January 12, 2018 at 7:31 pm
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          Maybe, but after a couple years of wondering whether we’d see him use a lightsaber at ALL in this movie, I’m more than grateful with what we got. And for me his standoff with Kylo was amazing and epic as hell even without them trading blows.

          • January 12, 2018 at 7:40 pm
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            Well they couldn’t trade blows, him not actually being there prevented that from happening. I do like the standoff sans the Matrix slow motion duck underneath Kylo’s lightsaber.

          • January 12, 2018 at 7:40 pm
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            Well they couldn’t trade blows, him not actually being there prevented that from happening. I do like the standoff sans the Matrix slow motion duck underneath Kylo’s lightsaber.

          • January 12, 2018 at 8:07 pm
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            Yea, movies are great when you grateful the writers blessed us with something cool. Because telling a new refreshing story where after decades and one new movie, Luke isn’t treated like crap is so much to ask. Luke Skywalker, failed Legend, worse uncle. He was the hero who faced down Vader and a empire only to travel the galaxy collecting books he didn’t read and giving up after thinking seriously about murdering his unarmed sleeping nephew.

          • January 13, 2018 at 7:49 am
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            I feel the same way, but to me the fact that we had to worry Luke wouldn’t use a saber was a red flag. Imagine if we got rumors that Han Solo vowed to never fly the falcon in episode 7. I think there is cool subversion of expectations and then there is subverting expectations so hard that you Loop back around to expecting disappointment

      • January 12, 2018 at 7:20 pm
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        That last sentence perfectly sums up every fanboy’s alternate concept for this movie who hated it. You ask these people who complain about this movie how they would write it differently and it’s completely predictable crap.

        • January 12, 2018 at 7:25 pm
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          Was The Force Awakens “completely predictable crap”?

          • January 12, 2018 at 7:46 pm
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            The moment Starkiller base made an appearance – yep

          • January 12, 2018 at 8:12 pm
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            I’m sorry you believe The Force Awakens is crap. I loved it, and thought it was a fantastic continuation of the saga. It pains me to say that I don’t feel the same about The Last Jedi.

          • January 12, 2018 at 8:46 pm
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            Its not crap. Its very enjoyable, but the Starkiller base plot is a bit flat for me, and they could of gone a different direction as I’ve mentioned before.. Rewatching TCW at the moment and rediscovered the use of a capital ship as a ‘car-bomb’ so translating into film with a giant shipyard of the things would of been possible.

          • January 12, 2018 at 8:38 pm
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            Have to agree, I loved The Force Awakens, but Starkiller base was the worst super weapon since the last worst super weapon.

          • January 12, 2018 at 9:09 pm
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            Yes. It reeked of bad fan fiction.

        • January 12, 2018 at 8:04 pm
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          More predictable that rewriting ESB/ROTJ with a few twist. Hmm, empire full of white armored storm troopers, led by darksider with special blood. Only hope is a small band of rebels and an undertrained Jedi from some Sandy planet.

          Yes, we’ve never seen that before.

        • January 12, 2018 at 8:04 pm
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          More predictable that rewriting ESB/ROTJ with a few twist. Hmm, empire full of white armored storm troopers, led by darksider with special blood. Only hope is a small band of rebels and an undertrained Jedi from some Sandy planet.

          Yes, we’ve never seen that before.

          • January 12, 2018 at 8:12 pm
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            Lol.

            Empire was simply A New Hope turned on its head, and your generalisation could have been any SW movie from Episode II onwards.

            Lol.

          • January 12, 2018 at 8:41 pm
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            That was established by TFA, not TLJ.

        • January 12, 2018 at 9:08 pm
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          The movie was in fact predictable crap, but here’s some other options.

          First, it would have been great to have an adversary other than a carbon copy of TESB’s AT-AT Walkers, but that’s what we’re given so I guess it’ll suffice.

          Here are the options, all of which require Luke to actually be there:

          1) Luke uses his lightsaber to slice up the legs of the Walkers and deflect their laser fire back at them.

          2) Luke uses the Jedi mind trick to force the First Order crew inside the AT-ATs to stand down.

          3) Luke uses Telekinesis to pick up the AT-ATS and bash them into one another.

          4) Luke uses Telekinesis to grab the heads of the AT-ATs and rip them off the bodies, bringing them gently to the ground. Then, Luke has a real lightsaber battle with Ben, in the middle of a ground firefight between First Order and Resistance troops.

          5) Luke uses telekinesis to hold AT-AT blaster bolts in mid air, just as Kylo had done in Episode VII, and maybe just throws them right back at the AT-ATS.

          6) Luke uses Telekinesis to lift the First Order’s laser battering ram, and turns it on the AT-ATs.

          Any of these possibilities would have been far more satisfying than watching Luke milk and alien nipple, then pass out after projecting a hologram on another planet.

          Ultimately it would have been better to have a different script entirely.

      • January 12, 2018 at 7:22 pm
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        Thanks for the reply. I fundamentally disagree with everything you just said lol. You really have to stretch the meaning of the words “teach”, “interact”, and “wield” in order to say Luke did those things. Teaching about the Force isn’t a single 2 minute lesson on a rock. Interacting with other famous characters isn’t a very brief sequence that ends up being pointless. Wielding isn’t showing a flashback shot of a lightsaber in his hand or it being in his projection.

        And yes, I would have very much liked to have seen Luke kick ass one more time. Just like how Han did in The Force Awakens. Was that cheesy and uninspired?

        • January 12, 2018 at 7:43 pm
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          That wasn’t a simple lesson. He helped Rey tap into the Force in a way she hadn’t before, and made it clear this is a power not owned solely by the Jedi. And there was definitely nothing pointless about his interactions with Leia, R2 or Yoda.

          And he’s also a powerful Jedi Master near the level of Yoda by this point, so I wouldn’t expect to see him still running around blasting people like Han anyway.

          • January 12, 2018 at 8:00 pm
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            So Luke doesn’t get to fight, fly, or even just leave the island because he is a powerful Jedi master? Seems a pretty poor excuse to me. Throughout the saga, powerful Jedi masters have taken up arms and gone on adventures. They fight and fly and do other “cheesy and uninspired” acts.

            Was it cheesy for Obi-Wan to duel Vader on the Death Star? Was it cheesy for Qui-Gon to duel Maul? Was it cheesy to have Yoda duel Dooku or the Emperor? So I ask again, why is Luke treated differently? Differently from Han Solo and any other powerful Jedi master.

          • January 13, 2018 at 1:08 pm
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            Guys, it’s because Luke is OLD now. Therefore he’s not as important as the young heroes. There’s precedent for this in Star Wars (and pretty much life in general). In the original movie we meet Obi-Wan, but even though he’s an important mentor to Luke during the film, there’s no misunderstanding among the audience that Luke is the hero and Obi-Wan is the teacher passing off the torch. Same thing in the Sequel Trilogy. Luke is old now. His time is over. It’s Rey’s time. Love Rey or hate Rey, this trilogy is about her – not Luke or Han or Leia. Yes, our heroes grow old and die. They don’t stay invincible forever.

          • January 12, 2018 at 8:01 pm
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            WHy, we seen Yoda fight as a master, and after 30 years it would have been nice. And he teaches Rey that he’s a coward, hat he’s given up, and that she is able to whoop him like she whoops everyone else except Snoke with little to no real training.

            Luke is made to be a failure, a petulant Master who allowed his whiny ass to let another Vader rise and led to billions dead. Luke’s legend now is he faced Kylo—great, and Kylo alive and Luke’s gone. I wouldn’t be so inspired by that.

        • January 12, 2018 at 9:01 pm
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          i have to agree with you.

          I’m not sure why Rey needed any training anyway?

          She already used a lightsaber like a pro in Episode VII, In VIII she defeats Luke in a lightsaber battle, then lectures Luke about the things he’s done and why he did them as though he’s still the student, even though she wasn’t present for any of the events that she’s lecturing him about.

          This is the stuff of crappy fan fiction.

        • January 12, 2018 at 7:44 pm
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          Yeah and that battle didn’t look remotely believable either.

          • January 12, 2018 at 8:02 pm
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            I still don’t get how from 1999-2005, with all the ILM movie magic at their disposal, they didn’t care to cast a bright reflective glow from the sabers (outside of the one brief scene in AOTC).

          • January 12, 2018 at 8:17 pm
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            Things I noticed from rewatching this:

            1. Ok it was a somersault off a balcony. Guessing Lee had a stunt double
            2. The lightsaber fight looked shite
            3. The lightsaber fight looked shite
            4. The lightsaber fight looked shite
            5. The lightsaber fight looked shite

            Apart from that I loved it.

          • January 12, 2018 at 9:20 pm
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            Pains me to see such talent wasted.

          • January 12, 2018 at 9:27 pm
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            It was wasted in clones where the three had quite possibly the worst shot duel in history. But I’ll stand by the fight in sith. 🙂

          • January 12, 2018 at 9:31 pm
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            If I had a lightsaber right now I’d strike you down in anger.

          • January 13, 2018 at 12:45 pm
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            Sorry Dux, the duel in Sith started out great until it turned into a Nintendo platform game on the lava river. Then Super Mario Brothers had just about as much credibility. Lava is fucking MELTED ROCK. Do you know how hot it has to be for rock to melt? On Earth, lava expelled from a volcano averages about 1000 degrees C, or almost 1800 degrees F. Standing on those stupid video game platforms not only would have exposed them to TREMENDOUS radiative heat from the lava river, their clothes would have quickly caught on fire and they would have died quickly from the overwhelming heat. “But the platforms had shields, and they were using the Force.” Retarded. As was a common problem throughout the PT, George Lucas didn’t know when to say when. He was intoxicated with the ability to create almost anything he wanted on the computer and he let the story wander into the absurd.

          • January 13, 2018 at 8:06 pm
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            Yeah but they are FUCKING Jedi lol. seriously we can see in the movie they are overheating and Jedis can bear pains a normal human can’t withe Force. then anakin is protected by the force shield of the droid and kenobi is on a platform. Once Vader is cut down to the ground, he quickly burned because of lava.

            the comic Clone wars are legends now but the abilities of Jedis are not discarded even in clone wars anime they survive to extreme environnements.

            Luke is surviving on high altitude on Bespin out of the city. we can find the same oddities in OT as well. it’s Star Wars dude

          • January 12, 2018 at 9:24 pm
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            The somersault was clearly CGI and very poorly done, i would love Disney (at some point) to go back to the prequels and tweak the CGI to bring it up to date…but it’s never gonna happen, they might look at Leia and Tarkin in Rogue One first, when the 4K box set comes out

          • January 12, 2018 at 9:51 pm
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            Disney need to look forward rather than back. That includes the OT.

          • January 12, 2018 at 9:26 pm
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            cgi was rubbish, but come on there’s some good skills. Not overly twirly like some of the stuff.

          • January 12, 2018 at 9:45 pm
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            I just never bought into The Count Dookie character. Seeing him best for most of the scene two guys a fraction of his age just takes me out the movie.

          • January 13, 2018 at 4:53 am
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            to be fair, he was a sith lord and allegedly the best duelist in the jedi order.

          • January 13, 2018 at 12:27 pm
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            They were no match for him, he was a Sith Lord…

            Oh I forgot, Sith Lords were their “spesh-ial-ty.”

            Yeah, he was a really old dude that looked like he was about to break a hip (if it weren’t for his cgi stunt double). I like Christopher Lee but Lucas severely screwed the pooch with that character.

          • January 13, 2018 at 7:14 pm
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            come on, its no different then having an elderly alec guiness or ian mcdiarmid fight.

          • January 13, 2018 at 7:28 pm
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            Agreed, but Alec Guiness got his butt kicked by Vader – as he should have. Yes, he kind of gave up the fight and let Vader kill him, but I think he knew he was never going to escape Vader alive. Ian McDiarmid – I agree. Yet another Prequel misstep by Lucas – just one example in a very long list…

          • January 13, 2018 at 2:49 am
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            I swear if there was anything remotely similar to this lightsaber duel in TLJ, it would have made the film 10x worse.

        • January 12, 2018 at 7:49 pm
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          He could have passed for 20 with those backflips he performed of balconies.

      • January 13, 2018 at 7:39 am
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        Han Solo seemed to fly and fire blasters just fine and he was much older than Luke.

        I am fine with the choices they made in the sequel trilogy and I loved TLJ, but I am constantly perplexed by the argument that it was physically impossible to write a good movie which included Luke Skywalker being more actively involved. They could have done it just fine if that was the story the chose, but they chose to take a risk instead of doing the obvious thing.

    • January 12, 2018 at 7:44 pm
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      You know what would be really awesome? What if this wasn’t Luke’s last battle? After all, Yoda shows up in TLJ and interacts with the physical environment. Who’s to say Luke doesn’t show up again in IX and actually take on a degree of physical form to help Rey fight against Ren and the FO? Of course, I seriously doubt this will happen as Rey is now the focus, but there is certainly precedent for this type of thing.

      • January 12, 2018 at 7:50 pm
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        Thanks for the reply. I hope Luke does return in some capacity, because I found his role in The Last Jedi to be unsatisfying.

      • January 12, 2018 at 7:55 pm
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        It wouldn’t change the fact they made the OT legends into majors failures who fell asleep at the wheel and actively took actions leading to the new empire rising.

        • January 12, 2018 at 8:35 pm
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          I know right, we could have had a sequel trilogy where nothing ever happens as they have no opposition to fight.

          #Missedopportunity

  • January 12, 2018 at 6:50 pm
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    “Many viewers were no doubt confused”. Heck yeah, but the colour of Luke’s lightsaber was the least of my concerns. He could have wielded a pink dildo and I still would not have noticed amidst such clusterf#$k…

    • January 12, 2018 at 9:20 pm
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      A pink dildo would have been more apt than a lightsaber considering how shafted i felt when i was watching it.

      • January 13, 2018 at 12:17 pm
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        Hey-oh!!!!!

    • January 13, 2018 at 3:38 am
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      You know someone is now going to edit it exactly like this.

    • January 13, 2018 at 4:24 am
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      your comment made my late night. LOL

      • January 14, 2018 at 6:52 pm
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        We only have each other buddy. Be strong.

  • January 12, 2018 at 6:58 pm
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    When I saw it the first time I actually thought I had caught an error in editing. As though someone in editing forgot that it was destroyed 3 scenes earlier and used it by accident. Haha. I is so stupids.

  • January 12, 2018 at 7:15 pm
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    I thought that he’d simply made a new one, and that the Empire were in serious PooDoo when he walked out.

    Did wonder why he felt the need for the poor dye job on his beard. I expected someone with blonde hair to have a blonde beard.

    • January 12, 2018 at 7:25 pm
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      I have similar hair color to Mark Hamil and my beard (although very patchy) is also a darker color than the hair on my head. It’s very strange.

    • January 12, 2018 at 7:25 pm
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      I have similar hair color to Mark Hamil and my beard (although very patchy) is also a darker color than the hair on my head. It’s very strange.

      • January 13, 2018 at 12:16 pm
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        I have blonde hair and a red beard.

        Mother Nature is a mad scientist….

  • January 12, 2018 at 7:37 pm
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    I accept the explanation, but to be honest the fact it needs to be explained shows it failed. This is Star Wars and shouldn’t be so deep, having his green lightsaber, you know the one that was about to strike Ben when asleep and pushed him over the edge, would of suffice and had the same effect.

    • January 12, 2018 at 10:48 pm
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      It didn’t need to be explained. They asked him the question so he answered it.

      • January 12, 2018 at 11:26 pm
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        So…..it needed to be explained because it was raised in a question….

  • January 12, 2018 at 7:42 pm
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    It’s a good explanation because I was really bummed to not see the green lightsaber. I was so engrossed in seeing Luke out in the world again that I totally glossed over all the clues that he wasn’t actually there. And when he was facing down the walkers, I just thought he was uber powerful and blocked all of them.

    • January 12, 2018 at 9:18 pm
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      Same here, when Kylo charged him and it was clear he was a projection i let out a sigh so big my lungs turned inside out, the theatre i was in actually expanded by 10% due to the expulsion of air by the audience. such a wasted opportunity.

  • January 12, 2018 at 7:49 pm
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    This sums up on Rian Johnson got this movie so wrongs.

    “So if you really want to dig into it and get an explanation, you can say that he doesn’t 100 percent know what happened to the lightsaber.”

    I am really positive that he very often didn’t dig into the explanations for his choices and their impact. From killing Ackbar off screen, Leia goofy escape death scene, to utter crapping on Luke and the OT legacy. All of it doesn’t seem that well thought out.

    • January 12, 2018 at 8:49 pm
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      My guess is that he probably didn’t come up with ideas on his own. The movie felt like a committee product, so I’d guess that he simply did whatever the executive round table and President Kathleen Kennedy wanted him to do without question, which would also explain why he was given a whole trilogy without even knowing how TLJ would do at the box office. He takes orders.

      • January 12, 2018 at 8:54 pm
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        See I would read it the opposite way in that he had too much free rein. For me Star Wars always seems to work best when it’s a collaboration. From the OT, where Lucas had a lot of help, to TFA (JJ & Kasdan) and even R1.

        • January 12, 2018 at 8:57 pm
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          It was a collaboration with the guiding hand of the storyteller, Lucas. Without the storyteller to provide the skeleton, the flesh of the story has no soul. Disney era Star Wars is an empty corporate product.

          • January 12, 2018 at 9:32 pm
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            They are using his skeleton though. There was just an article about that not too long ago.

          • January 12, 2018 at 9:40 pm
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            I’d say that is up for debate. George was fairly clear that Disney didn’t want to use his treatments. And Disney was all to happy to distance themselves from Lucas’s ideas. It’s only now in the aftermath of the backlash, that they’re trying to point fingers at Lucas as being partly to blame. From everything I’ve read, they may have borrowed a few elements from Lucas’s skeleton, but not the skeleton itself. This is clearly a trilogy with no new ideas or direction or anything. This is solely about executives trying to advertise toys that they want to sell on the big screen.

          • January 13, 2018 at 12:10 pm
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            I have to agree. After we saw so many stories over the last few years of how “Disney discarded Lucas’s treatments and are starting over with their own story for the sequel trilogy,” until now in the just the past week or so – after controversy among the fan base over the new movie – we see articles implying “these were Lucas’s ideas the whole time.” It just really stinks to me. I do really think there’s a lot of spin going on. This movie is so weird. It seems like both a success and a failure at the same time. Star Wars fandom has jumped the fuckin’ shark….

          • January 13, 2018 at 8:18 pm
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            i loled for the shark thing. you are right.

      • January 13, 2018 at 12:12 pm
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        The movie felt like the exact opposite of a committee poduct.
        Why would a committee make Luke a hermit that has to deal with faliure?
        If a committee made the movie it would’ve been far more pleasing to the manchildren on the internet…

        • January 13, 2018 at 6:40 pm
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          That simply doesn’t make sense. The silly social justice politics alone screams committee meetings.

          If these Disney movies aren’t committee driven, then what would be the reason for the firings all of those dejected directors?

          • January 18, 2018 at 4:33 pm
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            That’s silly… So now only a committee can be SJW? You can act like you’re surprised, but most artists in Hollywood are liberal (especially Geroge Lucas, to add). Disney aims to pander to a wider range of audience, true, but that isn’t equal with a committee driven flick… A committee for instance would’ve mapped out the trilogy in advance.

            It’s more than clear by the outcome of TLJ that RJ had pretty much full creative control. Killing off the completely unexplained Snoke, Luke, Phasma etc. aren’t exactly the choices a committee would make.
            If these movies would be made by committees that aim to satisfy the SW-nerds, they’d just adapt the far more fanboyish old- EU.

            Not being made by a “committee” alone is very far from good though. See the prequels for that instance.

          • January 18, 2018 at 5:35 pm
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            Committees can’t only be SJWs, not. But then, I didn’t make that claim. So what’s actually silly here is you responding to points that I never wrote.

            But let’s be clear; SJWs do tend to clot in committees, or collectives as they like to call them.

            I’m not at all surprised. Yes, hollywood is filled with uneducated liberals, and has been for decades. But they’ve generally been kept under control until about the last decade or two. Now they preach unfettered with cringe worthy on-the-nose dialogue, which of course explains why entertainment in general is becoming less interesting, and why more folks are unwilling to pay for it.

            https://www.thewrap.com/movie-theater-attendance-hits-24-year-low-ticket-prices-rise-nearly-4-percent/

            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/-star-wars-toy-sales-fall-in-2017-as-movie-tie-fatigue-sets-in

            I would argue that the SJW audience is a very narrow albiet very loud audience. What’s interesting though, is that Rian Johnson in Empireonline recently stated that the Leia Superman sequence was Kathleen Kennedy’s idea. And after all, what is the Lucasfilm Story Group, but a committee? A committee wouldn’t have necessarily mapped out the entire trilogy, particularly if it consists of small minded SJWs who are notoriously narrow of vision.

            The Prequels are a mixed bag. Some things they do very well, others not so much. The Sequel Trilogy thusfar sucks in pretty much ever aspect.

          • January 19, 2018 at 1:27 pm
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            Alright, you can put the Superman Leia scene under a “committee” made decision if you really want to (though not the scene itself, but showing Leia using the force was KK’s idea). But the rest? Not so much…

            This pathetic and blind hate towards liberals is the definiton of narrow-minded though. Especially when it comes to Hollywood. Even if you disagree with their notions, some of greatest movies of all times were made by liberals, who, contrary to your silly and false statement, tend to be the most educated of the bunch. I’m not a liberal before you ask. But I’m not attempting to alter the facts either like you do…

            I’d like to emphasize again that Gerogle Lucas is as liberal as you can possibly imagine, and that the original Star Wars is a book definition of a committee driven movie, despite the attempts of labeling it a “collaborative work”. From the script, to the story, to the characters to the dialogues, to the editing etc. Everything was changed multiple times during production. Did you know that before the re-edit of ANH in the final act the Death Star wasn’ t even supposed to threaten the Rebels? That’s how much it was changed.

  • January 12, 2018 at 8:00 pm
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    Anyone else think the style of the final showdown was cribbed from SW Rebels Obi-Wan vs. Maul duel? Not that I mind because the final OW vs. Maul fight in Rebels is one of my favorites. For the most part, I don’t care for TLJ, but, credit where it is due, I think the finale was visually one of the high points of the saga and I’ll probably buy the Blue Ray just to watch that part over and over. What’s your favorite light saber duel from the movies and both animated series?

      • January 13, 2018 at 4:14 am
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        ‘ A fart in the wind ‘ you are a poet.

    • January 12, 2018 at 8:21 pm
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      Phantom Menace finale is the best sabre fight in my opinion. The energy is really high, and it does not have the ludicrous cgi of revenge of the sith.

      • January 12, 2018 at 8:39 pm
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        It also doesn’t have anything going on between the characters. It’s got some nice fight choreography, but it’s about nothing.

        • January 12, 2018 at 8:46 pm
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          It’s about a phantom menace.

          • January 13, 2018 at 4:26 am
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            There is nothing going on between the characters in the fight. That’s what makes lightsaber fights good, not choreography. We know next to nothing about Darth Maul, he has no relationship to the Jedi at all. So the fight lacks any purpose and emotion.

          • January 13, 2018 at 4:31 am
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            I was being halfway sarcastic.

            I would argue that it’s a combination of choreography and the emotional drama that makes a good fight. Not just one or the other.

            Having said that, not knowing anything about Darth Maul I think was the point – the phantom menace. He did bring about a sense that an old evil might be returning, but he was mostly a mystery, and I think he was meant to be. How effective that was in execution is debatable.

          • January 13, 2018 at 4:31 am
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            I was being halfway sarcastic.

            I would argue that it’s a combination of choreography and the emotional drama that makes a good fight. Not just one or the other.

            Having said that, not knowing anything about Darth Maul I think was the point – the phantom menace. He did bring about a sense that an old evil might be returning, but he was mostly a mystery, and I think he was meant to be. How effective that was in execution is debatable.

          • January 13, 2018 at 12:01 pm
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            Agree with you for the most part, but I think “Darth Sidious” (aka Palpatine) was supposed to be the “Phantom Menace,” not Maul. Still a terrible title nonetheless….

          • January 13, 2018 at 6:41 pm
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            I got the sense they they both (the return of the Sith in general) represented the phantom menace, but I suppose that’s debatable.

          • January 13, 2018 at 11:59 am
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            “Something, something, something, Dark Side….”

        • January 13, 2018 at 11:46 am
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          The whole point from my perspective is about the anonymity. This is the first time these new Sith reveal themselves to the Jedi. So there is no discourse and it is very impersonal. I kind of like the minimalist speech of Maul in the whole movie. Makes him like some killing machine driven purely by the dark side and without conflict or politics. The ramifications of this fight also are massive. It sets off a chain of events leading to the first force ghost in the movies, and Obi Wan’s choice to teach Anakin.

      • January 12, 2018 at 8:48 pm
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        I don’t mind the cgi to a point, but that confrontation between Obi-wan and Anakin/Vader was to long.

        • January 12, 2018 at 9:33 pm
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          For me it was the bizarre acrobatics, dangling from wires, and floating on robots over lava. For me the PT lost its focus when they let the effects guys go free. Attack of the Clones 3P0 head / robot factory is another example.

          • January 13, 2018 at 4:11 am
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            i lol everytime at the moment we see the droid combat head on C 3PO body saying ” i need oil “

      • January 12, 2018 at 8:54 pm
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        PT has grown on me – I dig the final light saber duel and the pod race.

          • January 12, 2018 at 10:27 pm
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            That’s about right, but I really like those twenty minutes!

      • January 13, 2018 at 11:51 am
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        Blasphemy! Everyone knows that the Vader vs. Luke duel on Cloud City is the ultimate saber (I’m American, I spell “saber” the American way and then make you pay for it) fight!

        Mostly joking, but TPM sabER fight between Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, and Maul was pretty well done for the most part. Although…..I will never like the part where Obi-Wan is holding on for dear life in that shaft to the bottomless pit and then just suddenly throws himself 30 feet in the air and cuts Maul in half. Really awkward and it looked terrible – but the rest of the fight was tits.

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          Indeed blasphemy. ESB sabre fight is great. I especially like the start in the carbonite freezing chambre, and of course the climax.
          I have no qualms about the plausibility of obi wan clinging to the inside of the pit in TPM. Much less plausible is Lukes fall down the pit in ESB, into a tiny horizontal hole, and his continuing journey to the bottom of cloud city. I love the original trilogy but some aspects I think we all got so used to we ignore how bizarre they really are.

          • January 13, 2018 at 6:54 pm
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            Touche. Good point about Luke going into the tube. That was also a little awkward. But still not as bad as Obi-Wan’s “jump” out of the shaft I think.

  • January 12, 2018 at 8:43 pm
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    I think that Ren not noticing the blue lightsaber that was just destroyed would be better explained by simply saying that he’s blinded by his rage. We don’t need some boring excuse like “oh, he didn’t actually know that it was destroyed.” Much better to say that his rage causes him to lose his focus.

    • January 12, 2018 at 8:45 pm
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      Yes, that was my initial take.

    • January 13, 2018 at 4:48 am
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      Is it a boring excuse though, or is it what literally and explicitly happens onscreen?

    • January 13, 2018 at 3:23 pm
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      When I thought about it afterwards, I imagined Kylo assumed that Rey had given the broken saber to Luke, and he fixed it.

    • January 13, 2018 at 3:23 pm
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      When I thought about it afterwards, I imagined Kylo assumed that Rey had given the broken saber to Luke, and he fixed it.

  • January 12, 2018 at 8:44 pm
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    SW Fan: The fact the director has to explain the movie proves it’s shite!

    SW Fan: Will there be a director’s commentary included on the Blu-Ray?

    • January 12, 2018 at 8:46 pm
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      The Rian Johnson Explanation Tour continues!

    • January 13, 2018 at 11:43 am
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      Ok, this was funny. Very clever….

    • January 12, 2018 at 9:40 pm
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      You really like this guy.

      He you? You he?

    • January 12, 2018 at 9:40 pm
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      You really like this guy.

      He you? You he?

      • January 12, 2018 at 10:04 pm
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        Sure. He makes some interesting commentary.

  • January 12, 2018 at 8:56 pm
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    But why did he need to anger Kylo? Was it supposed to be the opposite of Luke trying to be calm with Vader – knowing there is good in him? Were we supposed to understand that by Luke wanting to instigate rage in Kylo Ren – that it means that there is no hope for him… he’s truly gone? I still don’t get it. Nothing but out-of-character for Luke i.m.o.

    • January 12, 2018 at 9:09 pm
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      Vader the genocidal maniac feared by the galaxy = redeemable

      Nephew that is conflicted by still apart of your school = TIME TO DIE BITCH!

      • January 13, 2018 at 4:05 am
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        genocidal as same and father killer, so …

        • January 13, 2018 at 8:52 am
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          Not when Luke decided he was going to kill him.

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            yeah sure. tbh i m not too much with luke THINKING to kill Ben #notmyluke because he din’t decided to kill Ben like you said. the idea just crossed his mind and said to Rey he was ashamed about that. this scene is just a quiproquo between Luke and Ren.

          • January 13, 2018 at 7:59 pm
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            yeah sure. tbh i m not too much with luke THINKING to kill Ben #notmyluke because he din’t decided to kill Ben like you said. the idea just crossed his mind and said to Rey he was ashamed about that. this scene is just a quiproquo between Luke and Ren.

    • January 12, 2018 at 9:23 pm
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      Anger has ALWAYS been people on the darkside’s weakness. Just look at Maul and Obi-wan in Rebels. You take advantage of that just like in real life. Make s them unsteady, unballanced. The more Luke can do to piss him off the better.

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      i agree. i really don’t understand where RJ wanted to bring us with Luke he despised his character imo. okay rey should not be shadowed by him but making Luke thinking to kill his nephew was a bad move. some choices of RJ let me scratching my head.

      i thought JJ was a bad choice but i realize RJ is even a worse idea. at least JJ was coherent and consistent, but previsible.

      RJ was just not the guy for the job. he’s good filmaker though. i think SW is a hard thing to master and as a director you have to shutdown your ego.

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        I have to wonder if RJ even likes Star Wars. I mean, seriously, at all. Maybe the movies just weren’t his thing — maybe he never grew up on them. That’s the impression I got from TLJ. That this is what you get when you hire a young indie-film director to write and direct a Star Wars movie. If you hired Wes Anderson, then you’d have Luke acting like a dickish failed father figure, too.

        Consider JJ and Gareth Edwards. Both directors obviously love Star Wars and it showed in their movies. (With RO, this was still apparent despite all the reshoots.)

        • January 13, 2018 at 6:59 pm
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          I’m imagining Wes Anderson directing a Star Wars movie. I shudder to think….

          Anderson is good at what he does, but him directing a Star Wars movie would be SO out there. What’s next, a Tarantino Star Wars movie? “Kill Kylo, Volumes 1 and 2.”

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          totally agree but JJ played it too safe. i hope they will find the perfect middle with 9. a smart move would be to hire GL as a creative consultant, just in case, ya ‘now. Besides that for me TLJ has still a place in my canon despite some face-palming moments. Hell, i m passing on a lot of flaws with PT, i can do the same with ST

    • January 13, 2018 at 7:21 am
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      Even if he was redeemable, Luke knew that wasn’t the moment. He angered Kylo to stall as long as possible. If Han couldn’t save Ben then Luke certainly couldnt. The only person who could have was leia, but since she likely won’t be in 9 at all then I’m guessing he is lost.

  • January 12, 2018 at 9:00 pm
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    All things considered, I would have preferred he used his green light saber.

    • January 13, 2018 at 2:05 am
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      Totally agree

    • January 13, 2018 at 2:05 am
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      Totally agree

  • January 12, 2018 at 9:29 pm
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    The minutiae isn’t the problem. This isn’t a question of internal logic, it’s the broad creative choices that I find unappealing.

  • January 12, 2018 at 9:37 pm
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    I thought it was a stroke of genius when I first saw it…the entire scene. I remembered later thinking that I should have known it was a force projection because of the blue saber and the younger look…it was brilliant in my opinion. Especially the way he avoided contact as long as possible to stall and delay Ben’s realization…

    • January 12, 2018 at 10:30 pm
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      Chaiman Mao is not pleased.

      • January 12, 2018 at 11:27 pm
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        It is interesting how much china loves the fast and furious and dislikes star wars.

        • January 12, 2018 at 11:50 pm
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          How can 1.4 bn people be so wrong?

          We need cultural re-education camps setup around the Chinese border.

          • January 12, 2018 at 11:57 pm
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            That or ep IX needs to be about fast ships, hot women, insanely ridiculous stunts and constant product placement for a terrible beer. 😉

          • January 13, 2018 at 12:14 am
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            Good god……… Yes!

        • January 13, 2018 at 8:56 pm
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          Western movies teaching Chinese and Japanese mysticism – basically star wars – can be a bit cheesey I guess if you have a lot of your own media and cultural background already. If they want to crack the Chinese market I suspect they would have to make a movie you really would not like.

  • January 12, 2018 at 10:51 pm
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    I see his point about Kylo wanting Anakin’s old lightsaber. I would think the green saber would also stir some anger in him considering he feels Luke was trying to kill him in his sleep with it.

  • January 12, 2018 at 10:55 pm
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    So now every director who explains his thinking in response to an interview question is just making excuses for his bad filmmaking? Or does that only apply to Rian Johnson and TLJ?

    • January 12, 2018 at 11:31 pm
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      Very few directors have talked down to their audience as much he and his team have. I can let a bad movie slide, but the spin control is bordering on insulting.

      • January 12, 2018 at 11:34 pm
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        The movie itself felt a bit insulting. But I don’t blame them for trying to get people to buy in. They’ve done a pretty good job alienating a bunch of their base. They’ve got to figure out how to rectify that. Explaining is part of that. But I feel what you’re saying.

        • January 12, 2018 at 11:40 pm
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          It’s so easy to just be authentic. Hopefully they learn.

        • January 12, 2018 at 11:40 pm
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          It’s so easy to just be authentic. Hopefully they learn.

        • January 13, 2018 at 6:36 am
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          The movie was extremely insulting. The MORE invested you are in SW, the MORE insulting the film was. Even scenes that should have had the audience leaping with joy —- such as the RETURN of Yoda — came of….confusing, obtuse, and ultimately unsatisfying.

      • January 12, 2018 at 11:41 pm
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        I have seen the movie 3 times and as much as I analyze it I still cannot see how the movie talks down to the audience. $1.2 billion dollars gross and counting seems to identify that there is a base who really liked the movie

        • January 12, 2018 at 11:49 pm
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          Unless I get a cut of it, the box office revenue doesn’t do much for me.

          And big dolla-dollas a doesn’t always make for a good film.

          “Titanc” is a divisive one too.

          • January 12, 2018 at 11:53 pm
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            Today marks the first day after the four week “forced”
            showing schedule put upon theater owners, we will know very soon how many theaters are dropping this,
            It was at 4232 screens, lets see how many keep it.
            Show and steady is better than a quick flash, This is what concerns Disney the most,

          • January 12, 2018 at 11:59 pm
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            My buddy went last weekend — the local big multiplex is down to three showings a day, and he said his auditorium sold out. The younger generation loves it… so I just don’t know.

          • January 13, 2018 at 12:04 am
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            Rogue One ran for 20 weeks. Would imagine a similar run-time for The Last Jedi.

          • January 13, 2018 at 12:09 am
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            20 weeks will now pass the rumored release date for the dvd

          • January 13, 2018 at 12:12 am
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            Rogue One’s DVD release date was April the 4th. So, similar timeline.

          • January 12, 2018 at 11:53 pm
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            But it does prove the film’s popular though, and any movie studio will take popular over good everytime.

          • January 12, 2018 at 11:57 pm
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            How long do you think before they throw blatant product placement into a Star Wars film? Like a Coca-cola billboard or something? Sounds crazy, but it feels like we’re heading in that direction.

          • January 13, 2018 at 12:03 am
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            That’s the thing though. The SW franchise doesn’t have to. They already have all their off-movie marketing tie-ins with the big global brands like Pepsi, etc.

            So, it’s never going to happen on screen.

          • January 13, 2018 at 12:06 am
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            Hope so — yet Disney figured out how to pre-promote Mary Poppins via different franchises twice now.

          • January 13, 2018 at 12:19 am
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            Lol. Mary Poppins.

            You missed the beats of Beauty and the Beast in The Force Awakens. The Dark Prince Adam [Driver] and his love to be (Rey). Then we have Cinderella having the lightsaber called to her, and Sleeping Beauty in her Coffin in The Last Jedi (although it was also a reference to Padme from Revenge of the Sith).

            J.J. himself said The Force Awakens is a fairytale.

          • January 13, 2018 at 12:23 am
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            But you know that J.J. is gonna turn it back around to Rey & Kylo being cousins or siblings again, right?

          • January 13, 2018 at 12:23 am
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            But you know that J.J. is gonna turn it back around to Rey & Kylo being cousins or siblings again, right?

          • January 13, 2018 at 1:21 am
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            Oh I hope so! Kenny is very hung up on Reylo!

          • January 13, 2018 at 10:35 am
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            It’s the elephant in the room, but people are more hung-up on the colour of Luke’s lightsaber.

          • January 13, 2018 at 2:24 am
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            That would be one hell of a tough sell.

          • January 13, 2018 at 2:28 am
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            Nah… they didn’t even touch. If Luke and Leia can bounce back from a round of tonsil hockey, they’ll be redeemed as well.

            Unless we find out that Rey is Luke & Leia’s kid.

            :I

          • January 13, 2018 at 3:10 am
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            In SW there’s always a Skywalker who has a relationship with a central character, with one of the couple being royalty, while the other is of lower class:

            1. Anakin (slave) with Padme (Queen)
            2. Leia (Princess) with Han (Scoundrel)
            3. Ben (Prince) with Rey (Scavanger)

            It’s my opinion, that’s what Episode IX is heading towards. We will see the final conclusion of the Skywalker legacy, and it has to end on a happy note.

          • January 13, 2018 at 3:33 am
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            it could have three more in 10-15 years. at first 12 were planned

          • January 13, 2018 at 3:46 am
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            I really don’t think they’ll be an Episode X for the following 2 reasons:

            1. There’s not really anywhere to take the story to. They can’t keep telling the same story over and over again
            2. Rian Johnson’s trilogy, is moving away from the Skywalker saga. It opens up fresh possibilities.

            I think IX will be the closure of the Skywalker story. Bringing the 40+ year story to its end.

          • January 13, 2018 at 4:10 am
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            I totally agree with you on you’re 2 points but not about the happy ending. Don’t know if you watch Jedi Council but they talked about Kylo being redeemed. I certainly agree with them on this.

          • January 13, 2018 at 10:42 am
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            In IX:

            1. Ben will carry out some heroic act
            2. I don’t think he’ll turn to the light. It’s yin and yang. Ben is yin (mainly dark with a little light), Rey is yang (mainly light with a little dark). In order to bring the necessary equilibrium to the force, both need to exist side by side. That’s why the prophecy was wrong. The Sith were destroyed, but peace didn’t last, because of an imbalance. That’s why neither Ben or Rey will die in Episode IX.

          • January 13, 2018 at 1:26 pm
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            Or maybe they both die. Problem also solved.

          • January 13, 2018 at 2:21 pm
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            Not really, because it will create a void, that will be replaced by another manifestation of the dark.

          • January 13, 2018 at 2:44 pm
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            And the light could rise to meet it again. Besides I think there’s still a good chance that Rey being a nobody is a huge misdirect and she could easily turn out to be a Skywalker.

          • January 13, 2018 at 2:46 pm
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            Exactly my point!

            If Rey is a Skywalker, how did she end up with Plutt on Kakku?

          • January 13, 2018 at 3:29 pm
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            Ok how about this….We know Luke was looking for Jedi temples & artefacts he needed some help so hired an archaeologist or someone with knowledge of the Jedi (church of the force member). During their time together they fall in love. However, they end up having a serious disagreement over something and end up going their separate ways neither realising that she’s pregnant (Rey). Rey is born and, because Luke’s ex has knowledge of the Jedi, is able to instruct a very young Rey to some extent. In the meantime Luke’s ex meets someone new. This person turns out to be a scumbag, a scavenger and a drunk. Overtime he drags Luke’s ex down to his level and they end up dumping Rey with Plutt…The End. Solves the problem of neither Luke or Rey knowing each other, explains Reys ability to use the Force with no training and explains what both Kylo & Rey see in TLJ.

          • January 13, 2018 at 4:06 pm
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            Ok. I’ll play.

            1. How will this be explained in Episode IX?
            (a) Her mother is gone, she can’t tell Rey that Luke is her father
            (b) Will there be a force-ghost Luke “I am your father” moment?
            (c) Or, will Rey just suddenly realise she was Luke’s kid all along?

            2. Luke doesn’t know her. He could see into her soul when she was force meditating, and yet nothing.

            I thought this had all been covered.

            The cave – The image revealed was herself, I interpreted that she needs to let go, and move on, her parents were of no importance.

            Then we have Ben and Rey:

            Ben: Do you know the truth about your parents? Or have you always known? You’ve just hidden it away.
            Rey: *Doesn’t reply*
            Ben: Say it!

            Rey: *On the verge of tears* They were nobody!

            Ben: They were filthy junk traders, Sold you off for drinking money. They’re dead in a pauper’s grave in the Jakku desert. You come from nothing. You’re nothing. But not to me.

            She clearly knows who her parents were.

          • January 13, 2018 at 5:08 pm
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            Yes obviously Reys mother is gone so wouldn’t be able to let her know. Sure why not a force ghost moment of “I’m your real father” works for me and becoming a force ghost would give Luke knowledge of everything that’s happened. Vader didn’t know Leia was his daughter and Visa Versa. Same for Luke & Vader. Vader only found out Luke was his son when he heard he was a Skywalker and then he still had to do some investigation (see the Vader comic) He didn’t just know through the force so there’s no reason Luke would just know through the force that Reys his daughter. As for the cave, I don’t think that proves anything one way or another. It’s a dark side cave and could have been just messing with her mind. As for Ben telling her about her parents and Rey knowing, works with what I said. If Reys mother met someone new and he was a scavenger and a drunk he could have dragged Reys Mum down to be the same as him. Happens all the time. If she hadn’t told Rey who her father was. Rey would just assume it was him. The events that Rey knows and Kylo sees transpires exactly like they sense and both wouldn’t realise there’s more to it. I’m not saying I’m correct and I’m sure JJ could do a better job of writing a connection. But Rey being a nobody makes no sense of her abilities with no training. At least what I put above would explain that.

          • January 13, 2018 at 6:03 pm
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            Wait a minute.

            Your theory is that Luke doesn’t know he had a daughter. So, how does he suddenly know he has one now?

            What’s changed, except that’s he’s dead.

          • January 13, 2018 at 9:21 pm
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            Why not? Like I said Vader didn’t find out about Luke through the force and as has been stated Luke had cut himself off from the force in TLJ so it’s quite plausible he wouldn’t know. It wasn’t until Yoda gave him a slap that he reconnected. As for finding out once he died, again why not? He has become one with the force so I would imagine the past and possible futures would be open to him. In the novel “From a certain point of view” Qui Gon knows Obi Wan is going to die.

          • January 13, 2018 at 10:35 pm
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            Why didn’t Yoda tell Luke Rey was his daughter during the intervention? Moments don’t get any more perfect than that.

            Anyway, I’m 100% sure you’re right.

          • January 13, 2018 at 10:53 pm
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            And I really don’t see how Luke at this point being Rey’s father will drive the story forward. The Vader reveal was different, Luke had to confront him. But if this turns out to be the case, we’ll have Rey trying to get to know a force ghost. Making Rey Luke’s daughter in Episode IX is nothing more than cheap fan service. From a narration point of view, it serves no purpose other than to appease fan boys.

          • January 13, 2018 at 11:22 pm
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            Yoda may well have told Luke and we didn’t see it but I agree with your point that it would have been the best moment and it is more difficult going forward. I think it was a missed opportunity in TLJ. I know a lot of people thought it would be too obvious for her to be Luke’s daughter but I personally wouldn’t have minded. The story didn’t all have to be about mystery and surprise. A lot of the mysteries have been done away with in TLJ anyway.

          • January 13, 2018 at 8:50 pm
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            Questionable why we see the ship leaving Jakku and her left behind and yet they end up back on Jakku in a grave but never see her again.

          • January 13, 2018 at 9:00 pm
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            1. Jakku is a planet. The ship could simply be flying to another part of it
            2. Her parents could have been double crossed by Plutt, killed, and then dumped in a grave.

            Easily explained.

          • January 14, 2018 at 12:09 am
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            You are right of course and for what it is worth I think it will not happen at all. On #1 though the ship heads to the sky and not horizontally. She is waiting for them to come back. It is clear she was at least left on the planet (to me at least)

          • January 13, 2018 at 3:40 pm
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            Luke wiped her mind and put her there to protect her. He saw the pain she would suffer and wanted her not to be caught up in the struggle of light and dark. His question “who are you” was a test as to whether she remembered her true self. Her memories and those read by Kylo are a fabrication. Luke was not just exploring Ben Solo’s mind that night he confronted him, he was erasing memories of Rey.

          • January 13, 2018 at 5:00 pm
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            If that was the case, then why not have her with him on Ahch-to. The most unfindable place in the galaxy.

            We’re also back to explaining why he left her with Unkar Plutt. Anybody would be better than that slave master.

          • January 13, 2018 at 6:39 pm
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            Her presence on the island with him would make it findable if the force ever awakened in her. Luke himself could disconnect with the force. He could not disconnect her from the force but he could make her forget she ever knew about it.

          • January 13, 2018 at 6:50 pm
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            But if that’s the case then, when the force awakens in her, Snoke and Kylo Ren would know about it, as we saw in The Force Awakens. So, if an awakened Rey on Jakku is then findable, they would find her on Jakku, even with her mind being wiped.

            Luke could have had her with him on Ahch-to, where he could have protected her. He could have taught her to turn herself off from the force.

          • January 13, 2018 at 8:46 pm
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            As soon as the force awakens they sense it. I would argue it is the arrival of Ren on Jakku or the map that causes the awakening. They do not have time to locate her immediately. As she becomes stronger and starts to use the force they would find her. Could Luke teach her to switch off the force before she becomes detectable? I think not.

          • January 13, 2018 at 8:57 pm
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            I always thought the awakening was when Rey came into contact with BB-8.

            But that’s not the point. Rey was always aware of the force flowing through her. She says so to Luke. My point is Rey is the manifestation of the light, the Awakening was her destiny. It was always going to happen. Leaving her on Jakku to fend for herself makes little sense, if Snoke and The First Order could locate her through the force. It was too high risk.

            The risk would have been mitigated if Luke had her with him on Ahch-to. Luke only needs to teach her one lesson, to detach herself from the force.

          • January 14, 2018 at 12:13 am
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            I thought it was the nearby presence of the dark side and abuse of the force that started it.

            Maybe he thought nobody on the dark side would ever have cause to go to Jakku.

          • January 13, 2018 at 10:03 pm
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            I always thought her awakening was when Kylo tried to mind rape her and she found she could push back. They both seemed surprised by what happened.

          • January 13, 2018 at 3:12 pm
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            I wouldn’t bet on Johnson’s trilogy happening.

          • January 13, 2018 at 5:03 pm
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            Always a possibility. But, Lucasfilm still need to move away from telling the same story over and over again. They’re in a lose-lose situation with the Skywalker saga:

            1. Play it safe – it’s criticised as a rehash
            2. Take risks – it’s branded a betrayal

          • January 13, 2018 at 7:22 pm
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            You bring valid points. while i am for a nnew trilogy RJ will have to stick with codes and schemes of Star Wars either it turns out to something like a cuasual sci-fi movie. for me we are close to that frontier with the ST a lot more since TLJ). i am all for RJ trilogy but putting him to direct a skywalker movie was the worst mistake in SW history.

            But i think you right and no one Rey is here to close it. But what she said when she was asked to reprise her role later, she first said no but after in an other article it was like not an absolute, so who know ?

          • January 13, 2018 at 11:31 am
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            Please please please…..no Reylo. A romance between those two would be a bad story choice I think. Why does it have to end well for Kylo? Even Leia said in TLJ “my son is gone.” Why should we see a repeat of Rey and Kylo trying to convert each other in the next movie? And before anyone says “we saw a theme of conversion repeated between ESB and ROTJ,” Luke wasn’t trying to convert Vader in ESB. He was just trying to defeat Vader and save his friends. Only AFTER he found out Vader was his father did he want to convert him (in the next movie).

            Honestly, I think it would be bad-ass if Rey and Kylo both kill each other in the next movie. Like Snoke says in TLJ “Darkness rises, and light to meet it.” Maybe both light and dark get extinguished together in the next film. But I doubt that will happen. This is Disney we’re talking about, and Kathleen Kennedy has all those little girls she’s empowering. Rey can kill off Kylo, fine – just don’t try to shoehorn in a stupid romance. Please Lucasfilm.

          • January 13, 2018 at 1:27 pm
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            He was the architect of Reylo? By having Kylo trying to mind-rape Rey, kill the closest thing she’s ever had to a father (Han Solo), and then have Rey beat Kylo down like a bitch and disgrace him to Snoke? Sounds like a love affair to me! That’s sarcasm. Romance is fine in Star Wars, but I think a Reylo romance is beyond dumb. Please explain to me, why would you like this?

          • January 13, 2018 at 2:20 pm
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            It’s not what I want, it’s what I believe will happen.

          • January 13, 2018 at 12:40 pm
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            Ben Solo is gone,

            If you accept Last Jedi, then this is a undeniable truth

            JJ had certainly set up Kylo for redemption, from the way he watched Starkiller base destroy the Republic systems, the conflict with Han Solo, but thats gone now. He had his chance to turn around after they killed the Snoke, but his first act was to destroy the fleet.

            I would have preferred Rey as a direct manifistation of the Dark Side, through Plageus, all they clues were there. Reys fighting style matched with Palpatine’s, The musical cues JJ asked John Williams for matched with the “tragedy” speech. “What Girl” line from snoke, who had been around since before the rise of the Empire.

            The twist that should have come with Last Jedi, Rey to the Dark Side and a reunion between master and pupil, Luke and Ben. Fuck that would have been sweet

          • January 13, 2018 at 11:15 am
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            No, Rey is Kylo’s father’s, brother’s, nephew’s, cousin’s, former roommate.

            “You know it to be true….”

          • January 13, 2018 at 11:11 am
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            ALL Stars Wars is fairy tale. The original pretty much re-wrote the book on escapist film-making. Movies have never been the the same since.

          • January 13, 2018 at 11:25 am
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            Yes, you’re totally right.

            A New Hope:
            A captured Princess locked in away in a castle (The DS) who is eventually rescued by her Prince
            The hero Journey
            Good ultimately prevailing over evil

          • January 14, 2018 at 4:01 am
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            Good one!

          • January 13, 2018 at 10:52 am
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            Don’t forget “Avatar.”

          • January 13, 2018 at 3:45 pm
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            Thing is — I hopped on that theme-park-ride (which they tried to pass as a “film”) only once… and it literally is forgotten from my mind.

        • January 13, 2018 at 7:40 am
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          Well then you are LOST!

      • January 14, 2018 at 12:26 am
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        Talks down to the…wtf are you talking about?

  • January 13, 2018 at 12:47 am
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    Wanna know the mystery of the green lightsaber? Here goes…

    Rey wasn’t the first person to bring Luke an old lightsaber. Before her, Ahsoka showed up with his green saber and, of course being the dick that he is, he tossed that over the cliff too. Then the space walrus ate it, hence the reason it now produces green milk — it’s jam-packed with Kyber minerals & vitamins flowing through its system.

    No wonder Luke be trippin’ through time and space, right?

    [Send me a check, Kiri Hart — I just wrote better fan fiction in five lines than your entire team has in the last five years.]

    • January 13, 2018 at 12:29 pm
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      again more logic in your brief, and easier to believe

    • January 13, 2018 at 9:38 pm
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      the biggest mistery of light saber is WHY DOESN’T THEYHAVE A BUTTON TO CHANGE COLLOR? c..moom. the are SOLID LIGHT!!!! cant you change the color of your SOLID LIGHT WEAPON?????? Each light saber should have the entire range of color choice, including ultraviolet and infra red. One fixed color is soooo stupid. And don’t talk about cristal: there are things called color filters, IN REALITY, one should be able project entire movies in the lightsaber, like an iphone screen. Are iphones more advanced than light sabers?

        • January 13, 2018 at 10:41 pm
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          I loved how he went in his vehicule to get a new one. xD

          • January 13, 2018 at 10:45 pm
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            Shhhh… that takes the fun out of it.

          • January 13, 2018 at 10:49 pm
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            ok i get that lol

          • January 13, 2018 at 10:49 pm
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            ok i get that lol

  • January 13, 2018 at 1:24 am
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    RJ’s explanation is pretty much how I rationalised it *after subsequent viewings* ; on the first viewing, I think I was just caught up in the moment and hadn’t spotted the younger face, the darker beard, or the blue sword…. but I did question the latter on subsequent viewings, thinking it should have been the green lightsabre. However, an interview such as this really does worry me that the film needs to be supported after the fact : surely, a good, concise, compact film should have all the answers contained therein upon first viewing ? The film-maker has no guarantee that the audience will return to it for clarification, so the first (and only) performance should be crystal clear. For example, I hadn’t considered the Ackbar death scene too negatively, but in the light of interviews and comments that could have been handled a lot better. A very minor point, but Artoo turns his head in mid-holo-projection : that’s lazy on the part of the editor (& director). The second Bridge locale, for me, needed to have been visually different from the Primary Bridge ; the ‘Art of’ book has a more industrial ‘guts-of-the-ship’ look, and that would have worked so much better : for me, for the heroes to lose their bridge, then in effect say “Let’s get back to the Bridge” was jarring and distracting.

    • January 13, 2018 at 10:50 am
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      Great post. And to comment on one specific aspect you address – that being Ackbar – I wasn’t really happy with how they treated him in this whole sequel trilogy. Not just TLJ but TFA as well. That damn fish-man deserved better than what he got…. 🙁

    • January 13, 2018 at 3:37 pm
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      Sorta like the battle-bridge in “Encounter at Farpoint” if you are (or were) a Trekkie.

  • January 13, 2018 at 2:03 am
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    I simply thought that over the years Luke had made a replica.

  • January 13, 2018 at 2:41 am
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    While I understand Rian’s explanation for Luke using the blue saber, the same explanation could easily be copy-pasted for the use of the green saber. The green is what Kylo saw during the Temple confrontation, so the saber could have still enraged Kylo on the Crait battlefield. But whatever. At least we saw the green ignited at all in the movie, albeit in flashback.

    Honestly, the first time I watched TLJ, I noticed every single detail – Luke’s shorter haircut, dyed beard, the change of clothes, the slimmer physique, the graflex – and HAD NO IDEA what was up until Kylo’s saber phased through Luke. Caught me totally by surprise, although I did think it was super weird why Luke was weilding the graflex…I figured we’d shortly get some explanation as to why (like maybe he met up with Rey and he was able to fix it pretty easily, or maybe he had built one a while ago that was just identical to his father’s), but then of course we learned it was a projection.

    • January 13, 2018 at 10:43 am
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      graflex? Wuh-huh? Please explain, I’m stupid.

      Is that another term for Anakin’s lightsaber that I’ve just never heard before? If so, why the fuck “graflex?”

    • January 13, 2018 at 10:43 am
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      graflex? Wuh-huh? Please explain, I’m stupid.

      Is that another term for Anakin’s lightsaber that I’ve just never heard before? If so, why the fuck “graflex?”

      • January 13, 2018 at 12:26 pm
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        The first props from 1977 were made from “graflex” brand camera flash holders. They were rare then, now almost impossible to get.

        The more hoops we need to jump through to understand a movie does’t make you like the movie more, it just makes you dizzy

      • January 13, 2018 at 12:26 pm
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        The first props from 1977 were made from “graflex” brand camera flash holders. They were rare then, now almost impossible to get.

        The more hoops we need to jump through to understand a movie does’t make you like the movie more, it just makes you dizzy

        • January 13, 2018 at 3:33 pm
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          Check out how much a graflex flash goes for on eBay or Craigslist — man, I wish I bought a bunch of em years ago.

  • January 13, 2018 at 4:55 am
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    Blahhh….I sure don’t remember so many explanations, so soon after a films release, but I could be wrong.

    • January 13, 2018 at 12:22 pm
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      few reasons:
      1. box office is now off 40% from Force Awakens, almost 800 million dollar drop, worldwide
      2. China theaters dropped 92% off their screenings
      3. Four week box office contracted screen presence is over
      4. Solo schedule reshuffle, Still calling for later release, esp now that Deadpool 2 has moved up its release date
      5. Disney theme parks and streaming services launch next year, forget the fan backlash, this is about stopping the hemmoraging

      • January 13, 2018 at 3:27 pm
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        More successful than Rogue 1 and still climbing. One of the most successful movies of the year and all time.

        • January 13, 2018 at 4:33 pm
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          worst sequel to sequel drop off EVER in the history of the motion picture industry

          • January 13, 2018 at 6:33 pm
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            Can be explained by the exceptional good performance of TFA. Arguably R1 was the next movie in the franchise after TFA.

          • January 16, 2018 at 5:03 pm
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            also biggest takingmovie worldwide in 2017 now. Can’t grumble about that. Money talks my friends and this movie took plenty and i can guarantee that Disney never expected it to take nearly as much as TFA – that was the biggest hype fest in history.

          • January 16, 2018 at 5:03 pm
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            also biggest takingmovie worldwide in 2017 now. Can’t grumble about that. Money talks my friends and this movie took plenty and i can guarantee that Disney never expected it to take nearly as much as TFA – that was the biggest hype fest in history.

    • January 14, 2018 at 12:25 am
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      Don’t answer any questions Ryan, no one here wants to know what the Director of the movie was thinking…right?

    • January 14, 2018 at 12:25 am
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      Don’t answer any questions Ryan, no one here wants to know what the Director of the movie was thinking…right?

      • January 14, 2018 at 2:57 am
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        not what I said….reread. It just seems early for all of this.

      • January 14, 2018 at 2:57 am
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        not what I said….reread. It just seems early for all of this.

  • January 13, 2018 at 7:13 am
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    I just assumed that since Luke was cementing his legacy as the “legend of Luke Skywalker” he simply went for the arguably more iconic blade. Kylo would recognize both blades. I wanted the green personally, but it was still was an epic scene.

    • January 13, 2018 at 10:36 am
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      “the arguably more iconic blade.”

      “Arguably” is the key word here. No insult to you – if you think the blue Anakin saber is more iconic, that’s cool. I’m not going to convince you otherwise. But for me, when it comes to the character of Luke Skywalker, I will always associate him more with the green blade. It’s the lightsaber he built himself – not someone else’s. Not something he inherited from his father, but something he created all his own. In my opinion, that gives it a lot more meaning. I liked the scene a lot, but I thought Rian should have used the green saber. His explanations here seem kinda weak and don’t really cut it for me. It’s not a huge deal though, just a minor gripe.

      You did say “I wanted the green personally…” so I guess we kind of agree?

      • January 13, 2018 at 11:51 pm
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        No insults but maybe thats the problem with you. Don’t view items in the saga by their status of irl OT or PT fanboys. In the universe the blue saber is obviously way more iconic and that is why Kylo wants it.

        • January 15, 2018 at 9:16 am
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          “No insults but maybe thats the problem with you.”

          No insult taken but I’ve got tons of problems. Just ask my wife. She’d be so happy to illustrate them, she might even draw everyone a diagram…

          Bad joke, per usual for me. Maybe I’m wrong (likely), but the green saber would have worked better for that scene I think…

        • January 15, 2018 at 9:16 am
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          “No insults but maybe thats the problem with you.”

          No insult taken but I’ve got tons of problems. Just ask my wife. She’d be so happy to illustrate them, she might even draw everyone a diagram…

          Bad joke, per usual for me. Maybe I’m wrong (likely), but the green saber would have worked better for that scene I think…

      • January 16, 2018 at 1:48 am
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        I completely agree, I meant more iconic to the overall saga in terms of the blue saber appearing in the prequels, OT, and sequels, but in terms of thinking Luke Skywalker the character, I will never be able to not imagine the Legends version of Grand-master Skywalker with his emerald blade, I wish Ryan had gone with that one to see him wield it on the big screen. Heck I would have even accepted duel-weilding the green and blue since it was a fake-out anyway, but seeing the green saber for a quick second in the flashback was such a tease lol.

  • January 13, 2018 at 7:16 am
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    I thought it was pretty generous that we got to see him with both sabers. Unexpected ways of showing both, as well. Pretty cool to me.

    • January 13, 2018 at 7:37 am
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      Who sent you?

      • January 13, 2018 at 11:47 am
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        Grow up

  • January 13, 2018 at 7:37 am
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    “Because fuck Luke”

    Rian Johnson

    • January 13, 2018 at 10:56 am
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      Literally Rian’s thought process as he wrote the entire film.

    • January 13, 2018 at 6:20 pm
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      Fuck the fanboy’s godlike, omnipotent interpretation of Luke, hell yes!

      • January 13, 2018 at 7:36 pm
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        Yeah so let’s go from that extreme to the opposite one.

      • January 14, 2018 at 2:00 am
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        Yeah who doenst hate what the narrow minded haters love

  • January 13, 2018 at 7:55 am
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    He was just answering a question that was asked lol.
    I don’t get why negative people are harping on this detail. If you are someone who hated the last Jedi it’s probably because you disagreed with the entire premise of grumpy Luke and force projections. I’ve yet to meet someone who hates this movie but would flip to 10/10 if only the saber was green. This is not justification, it’s commentary.

  • January 13, 2018 at 9:25 am
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    Has to be to explain Leias death and the rise of a new rebellion. I’m thinking at least 5-10yrs.

    • January 13, 2018 at 3:24 pm
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      I agree at 5 years – maybe less. Otherwise all the characters have to age.

      Leia does not necessarily have to die before the movie. She can just be at a different location to the events that happen in the movie. Or she could be killed off very early in the movie like the start to AOTC – terrorist attack, no body found.

      Personally I would like them to recast or use cgi (i liked rogue one). But I think they already ruled out the latter.

      I think at least a single scene with Leia, Ben Solo and Rey is needed.

    • January 13, 2018 at 6:35 pm
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      Sounds about right. Would be cool to see how everything panned out.

  • January 13, 2018 at 10:44 am
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    People are complaining the literal illusion has a lightsaber that got distroyed. It doesn’t really need explaining. The lightsaber isn’t really there

  • January 13, 2018 at 10:59 am
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    Honestly, I’ll never be able to forgive Ruin Johnson for killing off Luke Skywalker. Though the death of Han Solo certainly hurt badly, I understood that that was what Harrison wanted. With Luke, Mark Hamill did not want to see the character killed off, and would have continued for numerous more films. And don’t give me “Well he’s going to be a Force Ghost now” b/c yes, he will probably cameo as a Force Ghost, it’s not the same as the living, breathing, HERO that is Luke Skywalker. It will be amazing to see, in 2019, the effect at the Box Office that the lack of Luke has. Ruin prematurely and selfishly killed off possibly the greatest hero in film history.

    • January 13, 2018 at 6:18 pm
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      If it were up to you it would be 2 hours of Luke swinging a green lightsaber around and nothing more. Thankfully, Rian didn’t buy into the the idea of Luke as the flawless, omnipotent superhero that you and other fanboys make him out to be, and made him an actual human – a far more compelling and complex character than space Jesus Luke.

      • January 13, 2018 at 7:33 pm
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        Another day and another BS straw man from Crix.

        • January 14, 2018 at 12:15 am
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          You’re right, Crixxx can’t disagree with Kent. Long live Supreme Leader Kent

        • January 14, 2018 at 9:11 pm
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          Yeah. Not a straw man at all. There is absolutely no willingness among these fanboys to accept anything but heroic perfection from Luke. No willingness to accept his humanity. The reaction is proof positive.

          • January 16, 2018 at 3:41 pm
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            More BS, those who disliked the movie have gone out of their way to explain why. Honestly you are turning into one of the most dishonest and disrespectful posters on this site. Nobody wants or wanted perfection from Luke, have you ever even seen the OT? Haven’t you noticed the backlash against the ludicrously, immediately brilliant at everything, Rey? You’re arguments are dumb Crixx, either that or like I said above, you’re just being purposely disingenuous.

          • January 17, 2018 at 1:22 am
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            Of course they expect perfection from Luke, that’s why they can’t accept THIS version of Luke. They want perfect superhero asskicking Luke, and I keep arguing that THEY need to watch the OT, because Luke fails about as much as he succeeds in that. You bitch about Rey’s abilities but you give a total pass to every amazing and massively implausible thing that little boy Anakin does in TPM. What Anakin accomplishes in that movie, at that age, is FAR more implausible and ridiculous than anything Rey does. But he’s a boy so I guess it doesn’t matter. That’s what lame, as are the predictable and half-baked alternate ideas they come up with for this movie. And please, spare me your sanctimony. You have people here mocking Kelly Tran’s race, degrading Rian Johnson, who has been nothing but a class gentlemen throughout this whole thing, and calling me a paid Disney shill because I defend the movie. If you’re going to complain about my level of respect you can also condemn theirs’ while you’re at it.

          • January 17, 2018 at 5:50 pm
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            Once again, nobody, I repeat nobody, was expecting perfection from Luke, you seem to be unable to distinguish your own imagination from reality, you can’t and haven’t backed up that ridiculous assertion with any evidence whatsoever. I think at this stage we can start calling you the queen of the tribe of straw men.

            I have never given a total pass to anything in the train wreck prequels and I think you’ll find that the vast majority of those who dislike TLJ, dislike the PT for very similar reasons. Try again O Queen.

            Finally, the fact that you accuse the same people who hate Rey’s ludicrous ability to be immediately brilliant at everything, of wanting the same for Luke, when he was never that way in the OT – movies they love – shows you up for the logic deficient nincompoop that you are.

          • January 18, 2018 at 11:48 pm
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            We can call you the queen of ignorance, then. I guess if you have to result to 5-year-old name calling, your argument pretty much sucks. My evidence is all over these boards, if you actually took the time to read any of them, you would see it as plain as day: “Luke’s character was assassinated” “He was a hero.” “He would never abandon his friends” “He would never be tempted to kill one of his family members.” “He’s a failure in this movie.” “He’s a douche” “He’s not my Luke.” I’ve been reading this for a month. So yes, it sure as hell is the real sentiment being expressed by the haters. I never said Rey was perfect. I seem to remember her getting hurled around like a rag doll in this movie and nearly beheaded. I seem to remember her nearly killing herself, Finn, Han, Chewie when she let the rathtars loose in TFA. Rey’s attempt to turn Ben to the light fails in this movie and she has to flee. That’s not perfection by any means.

          • January 19, 2018 at 2:49 pm
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            You repeated my argument in your second reply – thereby skewering your own argument – and now you say the argument that you repeated sucks, Lol, women, you gotta love em.

            Yes, Luke’s character was assassinated and yes he was a hero – not a superhero – and no, Luke Skywalker, would never abandon his friends and go sulk like he did and no, Luke, who went on a three film journey from whiny farm boy to a wise, selfless, Jedi who resisted a Sith Master(and his own fear and hate) and who redeemed a man almost wholly immersed in the dark side, would never, out of fear, attempt to kill his young, sleeping nephew, the son of his best friend and sister, thereafter becoming a bitter, self pitying, cowardly, creep. If you really buy that, then, like Rian Johnson, you don’t understand or probably even really like the OT.

            Finally, for the last time, going back to my argument(that you bizarrely tried to use against me) people criticising, what is, first and foremost, an inconsistent portrayal of the already established character of Luke Skywalker, doesn’t automatically mean, as you contend, that they wanted or expected him to be a perfect superhero. That’s just a ridiculous leap of logic on your part, like saying 1+1 = 11.

            He was NEVER portrayed that way and yet was still a hero to millions of boys and men all over the world. One character who does however, come dangerously close to being an unbelievable, superhero is REY. It’s why she’s getting a lot of criticism, not because she’s a woman, as you seem to think. The people criticising Rey for being an unrealistic superhero are by and large, the same people criticising the inconsistent portrayal of Luke, the same people you accuse of wanting Luke to be a superhero, something he never was. There’s no logic to your argument Crixx, anyway your dunderheadedness has me going round in circles repeating myself now. Give it up, stop digging, come up with some logical arguments PLEASE.

          • January 20, 2018 at 8:08 pm
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            Hey guess, what? People change over time. Sixty year olds are not the same people that they were at 25, particularly those whose lives are marked by horrible tragedy.

            To quote a recent piece by Joseph Gordon-Levitt:

            “We all get older, and those of us who are lucky enough to survive our youth all face the joys, the terrors, the puzzles, the pitfalls, the surprises, and the inevitabilities that come along with doing so. Re-meeting our beloved protagonist decades after we last saw him, only to learn that the passing years have changed some of his most fundamental qualities, I’ll admit, it’s almost hard to see. But in that glaring contrast between the Luke of old and the new Old Luke, The Last Jedi offers a uniquely fascinating portrayal of a man’s life marching inescapably forward.”

            But you cannot accept this concept. You wanted Luke to be the same exact person he was 35 years prior, not affected at all by time or circumstance. You had no willingness to conceive of the character evolving over time. This is wholly unrealistic, unrelatable, and it makes for predictable and bland storytelling. You consider his weakness in the movie to be unacceptable, and in doing so you you make it ABSOLUTELY clear that the Luke you wanted is a superhero, immune from failure, discouragement or disillusionment, or any of the other traits of human weakness, as well as the evolution of personal character over time and in response to tragic loss.

            To quote Gordon-Levitt again:

            “A flawed main character is one of the main distinctions between a story with substance and a gratuitous spectacle, It’s often through a character overcoming their flaws that a movie can really say something.”

          • January 22, 2018 at 8:23 pm
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            Yeah, you’re just repeating yourself Crixx, putting words into people’s mouths, claiming to know what they think and want. Once again, nobody expected him to be unchanged and nobody expected him to be a superhero, he never was, they don’t like superhero Rey, what they did expect was progression – you know, older, wiser, more experienced, more adept – but what they got was a ludicrous unbelievable, dishonourable, cowardly, unwise regression. Young Luke from ROTJ is wiser than old Luke from TLJ and the flashback.

            In other news, you’ll be exited to hear Rian Johnson is being considered to direct Indy 5. Joseph Gordon Levitt will play a put upon 1960’s housewife, who has moved into Indy’s old house. We first meet her in a highly realistic grocery shopping scene, where her act of buying the wrong brand of baked beans for her blue collar husband, leads her to flee his tyranny, but not before she finds Indy’s hat, whip and old newspaper clippings describing his adventures.

            She seeks out and eventually finds a grumpy, bitter Indy in a nursing home( how realistic and thought provoking) when she offers him his whip and hat he just throws them on the fire for warmth, whilst swigging whiskey and making a creepy face at her. Anyway JGL housewife goes off on an archeological adventure on her own, is immediately expert at everything, teams up with Marion and eventually saves Short Round and Sallah from the bad guys, with the help of Indy who very realistically calls the police with a telephone.

      • January 14, 2018 at 12:14 am
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        This is totally right. Luke was far more interesting in this movie and Mark was at his best.

        • January 14, 2018 at 1:58 am
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          I think the grand majority of fans disagree with this sentiment LOL

          • January 14, 2018 at 2:57 am
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            I wonder how these two above got stuck with the weekend shift.

          • January 14, 2018 at 3:53 am
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            Guess you need to look up what “majority” means, your math is off

          • January 17, 2018 at 5:25 am
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            Actually, he’s correct. 51% of moviegoers at Rotten Tomatoes have a negative opinion of TLJ.

      • January 14, 2018 at 8:55 am
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        really ?! compelling enough to have thoughts of killing his nephew when he was a boy ? thats character assasination

        • January 15, 2018 at 10:51 am
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          Ben Solo is supposed to be born one year after Ep VI. He is still Ben six years before Ep VII. By the time Luke had an instinct to kill him, he was at least 25! He was older than Luke in Ep IV and Anakin in Ep III. He was not a boy!

      • January 17, 2018 at 5:23 am
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        It doesn’t have to be one extreme or the other. “Only sith deal in absolutes” How about a human, imperfect character, but one who is still largely intact and somewhat resembles the person he was for 3 whole films? Luke’s dive off the deep end was just not believable. Struggle? Doubt? Sure. But a complete annihilation of the hero who had already overcome so much? Nope. I don’t buy it.

        • January 18, 2018 at 11:51 pm
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          What wouldn’t be believable is if Luke simply brushes off the failure of his Academy, the death of his students and the betrayal of his nephew. You don’t go through something like that and walk away without being significantly affected. Luke’s reaction is perfectly human, because that’s what he is, not a superhero.

    • January 13, 2018 at 9:33 pm
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      I guess I don’t see it as him being killed off. Unlike Han (and while it hurt, I was okay with Han’s death) Luke can and in all likelihood, will come back as a force ghost. I think this was the right decision and I think it was done well. I will add, that I left the theater upon first view, not hating it but not liking it. However, upon the second viewing, I liked it a lot more. Still don’t know where it ranks but I have stronger feelings about this movie now.

    • January 13, 2018 at 9:34 pm
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      I don’t want to watch Douche Wars.

    • January 14, 2018 at 12:13 am
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      Who cares what Mark Hamill wanted?

      • January 14, 2018 at 1:59 am
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        I do. Because Mark has been a fundamental part of SW for 4 decades, his word and opinion means more than Ruin Johnson. Ruin abused the character, and Mark knew that from the moment he picked up the script. Ruin prematurely and selfishly killed off possibly the greatest hero in film history.

        • January 14, 2018 at 3:52 am
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          RJ made the character interesting. Mark’s vision was just more of the same. Fortunately, he wasn’t the writer.

    • January 15, 2018 at 10:17 pm
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      Maybe J.J. will give Mark Hamill a leading role in Episode IX. Luke could haunt Kylo Ren. That could be interesting and entertaining to watch… Luke Skywalker taunting and teasing and challenging Kylo Ren, acting like a conscience– but only Kylo can see him, like Battlestar Galactica.

    • January 15, 2018 at 10:17 pm
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      Maybe J.J. will give Mark Hamill a leading role in Episode IX. Luke could haunt Kylo Ren. That could be interesting and entertaining to watch… Luke Skywalker taunting and teasing and challenging Kylo Ren, acting like a conscience– but only Kylo can see him, like Battlestar Galactica.

      • January 17, 2018 at 5:17 am
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        I kinda doubt it. It was J.J. in the first place who pushed Luke to the side and gave him a lame plot that first sent him down this path of being a broken hermit. I was hoping Rian would be insightful (and respectful) enough to course-correct that poor decision, but instead he chose to double down on it and take a dump on Luke when he was already standing in a puddle of J.J.’s urine. Don’t know how these guys can call themselves SW fans when, like Mark himself implied, they seem to have such a lousy opinion of the main hero of the saga.

  • January 13, 2018 at 12:44 pm
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    Lucasfilm and Rian Johnson should stop explaining the obvious.
    They’re just making it seem like they’re doing damage control…

    Those who hate the movie on the inteernet don’t care about logical explanations at all. It’s just a vocal group of self-entitled egotistical people who want to echo the same flawed or unrealistic opinion.

    Disney should realise that the best way to deal with an inernet “backlash” is to simply ignore it. Those who aren’t internet-haters understood these themes and ideas in the first place or are open to discussion about it at least… Thus they don’t need the director’s explanation.
    The internet-haters don’t want to understand or discuss it. Their headcanon was hurt and nothing can fix that.

    • January 15, 2018 at 10:48 am
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      To me, what Rian is doing is giving comments, not explanation. I can tell that I enjoyed the movie even more with each comment, e.g. why they gave Phasma the blue eyes and all the other details. 🙂

      • January 18, 2018 at 4:15 pm
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        Ture. But I’d spare comments like that to the DVD commentary.
        This way (so close to the release) it just feels like damage control…

    • January 19, 2018 at 4:23 pm
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      Oh stop lying, all across the Internet you’ll find lots of very detailed discussions giving very logical reasons why people disliked the movie. What you don’t find much of are detailed rebuttals of the former.

      Rian Johnson keeps coming out with these explanations for what are small aspects of the movie but they’re largely meaningless and won’t make the movie any better.

      It’s a bad movie because it’s uninspiring and joyless and boring and hugely derivative of earlier movies in the series. The canto bight storyline is tonally straight out of the PT, the main character Rey is impossible to root for given how immediately brilliant she is at most things, Luke Skywalker’s portrayal is wholly inconsistent with his character from the OT, too many of the new characters are forgettable charisma vacuums that we’re never able to get to know, so again it becomes impossible to care about them.

      These new movies will not stand the test of time, they’re nothing but a visual Big Mac Meal.

      • January 21, 2018 at 2:27 pm
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        So in short: Mary Sue and hurt headcanon mixed with a dose of vague, completely subjective “arguments” such as “boring” and “forgettable”. Thanks for confirming my points.

        You’ll always find your echo-chamber on the internet, I don’t deny that…

        • January 22, 2018 at 8:40 pm
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          Going by that witless reply, I reckon you know all about echo chambers, you’ve obviously got one sitting on top of that neck of yours.

  • January 13, 2018 at 12:59 pm
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    Luke’s sacrifice was such a great way to re-invent what ObiWan already did with Vader. The way he takes advantage of Kylo’s uncontrollable rage is just fantastic. Kylo does exactly what Rose asks Finn not to do some minutes before: fighting what we hate.

    • January 19, 2018 at 3:50 pm
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      HHAHAAHAHAHAHAH YEAH, imagine fighting what you hate, I’m sure passively turning the other cheek, would have thwarted Hitler and the Nazis. Oh I’m seriously thinking I’m done with SW and it’s younger fans, it’s like a heavy night on the tiles, me losing tomanny brain cells.

  • January 13, 2018 at 1:34 pm
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    That explanation is garbage.
    It simply comes across as a glaring, jarring continuity error that ruins the impact of the projection reveal.
    It should have been his green lightsaber.

    • January 14, 2018 at 12:18 am
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      It WAS green, it just looks blue through the prism of fanboy tears. Go see it again, I’m totally serious.

      • January 14, 2018 at 12:48 am
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        Wow.

  • January 13, 2018 at 3:02 pm
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    From Kylo’s perspective:

    The destruction of Anakin’s saber knocked him out (and presumably Rey, too). When he recovered, he couldn’t find the remnants of Anakin’s saber.

    When Luke confronted him on Crait, holding Anakin’s saber, Kylo assumed that Rey had given Luke the broken saber, and Luke fixed it. Of course, we the audience knew this didn’t happen. This was a hint to us that something fishy was going on with Luke appearing on Crait.

    • January 14, 2018 at 12:11 am
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      One of many hints I missed the first time.

  • January 13, 2018 at 6:09 pm
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    Green saber all day for me. Loved the film but absolutely NO NEED to kill Luke. The worst hero death ever im afraid. Kylo actually killing Luke would have more resonance with us all or even Luke being killed by the walkers etc. Sorry Rian ya messed this up.

    • January 13, 2018 at 6:12 pm
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      The death of Luke is an act of sacrifice for the Resistance to escape, plus it serves as a call to help the cause of the Resistance throughout the galaxy. That’s a lot more meaningful than him being taken out by a walker.

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        The duel btwn Luke and Ren is what allowed the Resistance to escape, not his death. In fact, I’d go so far as to say – especially in hindsight of Carrie’s tragic and untimely death – that RJ/LFL should have played safe and kept Luke until Episode IX, and possibly killed him off at the beginning or end of that chapter. I mean, I think TLJ as is could have played out with Luke *not disappearing* at the end.

        • January 14, 2018 at 1:56 am
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          Right. And how about *GASP* just not killing Luke at all? Mark Hamill loves playing the character. Han was killed b/c Harrison REQUESTED it and only wanted to do one film. With Luke, there’s no reason to “kill him off”.

          • January 14, 2018 at 3:55 am
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            Because what an actor wants is what’s best for the narrative?

          • January 16, 2018 at 6:07 am
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            MH disagreed with the treatment of his carachter

          • January 16, 2018 at 6:07 am
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            MH disagreed with the treatment of his carachter

          • January 19, 2018 at 3:41 pm
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            Yeah, and there’s no great mystery why. The character of Luke in TLJ is wholly inconsistent with the character from the OT.

    • January 14, 2018 at 1:52 am
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      Ben? Yoda?

    • January 14, 2018 at 1:52 am
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      Ben? Yoda?

    • January 14, 2018 at 8:52 am
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      Nope. The ending was perfect m sorry! Luke cannot be taken out by walkers for christ sakes!

    • January 14, 2018 at 2:58 pm
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      Ok maybe not killed by walkers fair enough. But dont kill him at all. He sacrificed himself yes but EP IX needs Luke more than ever now we have lost our princess. I’m not sure Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver can carry the movie. Thats not being disrespectful of them just a fair assessment. I do hope im wrong though.

      • January 15, 2018 at 10:10 pm
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        Kevin Smith suggested on a podcast that when the walkers fire their barrage of lasers at Luke, that Luke raise his hand and all the lasers freeze in mid-air. When we first meet Kylo Ren in Force Awakens he freezes a laser bolt in mid air and holds it there, it would have been very cool to see Luke Skywalker perform the same Force move, but freezing an entire army’s lasers in mid air at once. He could turn them on the Empire or just make them all fall to the ground or any number of things… but Star Wars fans would have liked that so no way Rian Johnson would put that in the movie.

        • January 17, 2018 at 6:28 am
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          Luke isn’t Neo

        • January 19, 2018 at 3:37 pm
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          Very cool, verrry cool.

    • January 16, 2018 at 5:53 pm
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      Kylo killing Luke would have been awful.

  • January 13, 2018 at 6:22 pm
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    If you spent 3 years creating something and people attacked it with one asinine and ignorant critique after the other, would you not be compelled to say something?

    • January 13, 2018 at 6:39 pm
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      Honestly, not for this franchise. Star Wars has the worst fan base I’ve ever seen and it’s been that way for YEARS. If he and Lucasfilm are happy with the final product and it’s bringing in the money (which it is) then that’s all that matters.

  • January 13, 2018 at 7:28 pm
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    Yeah, the ONLY reason it’s the blue lightsaber is because most fans wanted and expected to see the green one. All these explanations are just deflections and in many cases straw men. Having a better understanding of these small aspects of this joyless movie won’t make it any better. Honestly, if you find yourself having to explain your movie after the fact, then perhaps you’ve just made a bad movie.

  • January 13, 2018 at 7:47 pm
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    I liked the film and particularly that scene, but I have to disagree. Luke’s green saber should have been used. Next to that, I also think the Rey vs. Luke sticks duel could have been much better with lightsabers :/

    • January 13, 2018 at 8:54 pm
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      Over the top much? I’m not on the side of its the best film, think most people have seen me post I prefer R1 to the new saga films, but come on this guy has problems. I confess not going past the introduction, but any guy wishing cancer on someone over a film is sick.

    • January 13, 2018 at 8:54 pm
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      Over the top much? I’m not on the side of its the best film, think most people have seen me post I prefer R1 to the new saga films, but come on this guy has problems. I confess not going past the introduction, but any guy wishing cancer on someone over a film is sick.

    • January 14, 2018 at 1:26 am
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      That was my question… What climactic battle with Kylo Ren? The headline is misleading.

      • January 14, 2018 at 1:55 am
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        They don’t even clash Sabers once. Stupid Rian couldn’t even give us a real FIGHT SCENE for our last moment with Luke.

        • January 14, 2018 at 2:27 am
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          i am starting to think RJ wanted to take SW by the opposite way. Luke is the best example

        • January 16, 2018 at 5:53 pm
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          Because Luke doesn’t’;t believe in fighting anymore because that’s WHAT BEING A JEDI IS.

    • January 14, 2018 at 12:51 pm
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      This guy is merely able to talk… How can his review be the best?

      “She goes FSSSH FSSSH ah ah ah F* this movie F* this movie”.

      Yeah that’s a hell of a critical review.

    • January 16, 2018 at 5:52 pm
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      Keep your youtube trash to yourself.

  • January 13, 2018 at 9:22 pm
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    I have always loved SW, but thecolor of lightsaber is a so idiot detail. Could it change to color you want with a button swich? ISn’T IT AN IMPOSSIBLE ADVANCED WEAPON? CAN”T IT HAVE A COLOR SWITCH BUTTON, PLEAAASSE????? I can project one button to change light color with some colored plastic in the base, and i’m not an engeneer.

    • January 13, 2018 at 10:33 pm
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      No because the color comes from the crystal himself. it was that in Legends, with new canon i am not so sure tbh

      • January 14, 2018 at 1:57 am
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        Yes, but a blue cristal with a simple yellow filter gets green, red filter, purple,orange filter, brown. A filter… its not difficult… iphone has more tecnology than lightsaber if a lighsaber cant change color. My granmma christmas tree has more tecnology

        • January 14, 2018 at 2:24 am
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          yeah actually there is even technology to paint with light. That said we re not able to figure how to make a lightsaber… yet. the colors were in Legends a way to difference the type of Jedis : yellow for sentinels (guardians of Temples), green for Jedis Counselor and blue for Guardians (the classical Jedis). i dunno if this has been discarded or not but i like your concept though i don’t see really an importance. For me Luke wielding blue or green is not so important. it(s not what hurts the movie

  • January 13, 2018 at 10:32 pm
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    The Real question about this scene was this, Why was Luke holding the light-saber left handed style? Luke always held the saber right hand over left, right?

    • January 13, 2018 at 10:34 pm
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      well pointed out !

    • January 13, 2018 at 10:41 pm
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      As a left handed person myself, the only explanation I can come up with is “because we’re AWESOME!” Obviously a joke. Honestly, as a leftie I usually notice when others are left handed, but I did not notice it with Luke in TLJ. I’ll have to watch it again.

    • January 14, 2018 at 12:15 am
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      He trained in front of the mirror 😉

    • January 19, 2018 at 3:06 pm
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      Because this movie is sooooo DIFFERENT AND IMAGINATIVE AND UNEXPECTED Wooooowwww mind blown?

  • January 14, 2018 at 12:24 am
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    People are asking him questions and he’s answering…and like him or not, he is the authority when it comes to what he was thinking about when making a scene.

    Now that the legacy baggage has been dropped, I wish they had a IX and X to tell the story about the new heroes. This is coming from a legacy fan.

    • January 14, 2018 at 12:30 am
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      I agree with you completely. But I also think it’s a shame that filmmakers have to explain this much sometimes. Where is the ambiguity? It shows how much moviegoers have changed over the years as well. Everything has to be explained I feel there’s no room for interpretation anymore.

      • January 14, 2018 at 3:58 am
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        Yeah, fair enough

  • January 14, 2018 at 1:12 am
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    I knew from the moment he walked in that he wasn’t really there. He was obviously younger and that, to me, was the giveaway. When he is outside he doesn’t leave footprints in the white sand, another giveaway. Finally he is using a blue bladed lightsaber and that was obviously a dig at Kylo. I’m not sure why people didn’t notice these things without having to be told.

  • January 14, 2018 at 1:55 am
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    The reason I thought he was really there is the way he interacted with Leia.

  • January 14, 2018 at 2:10 am
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    It will be amazing to see the LACK of emotional resonance that Episode 9 will have. With Han dead, Leia dead in real life, and Luke now killed off —- 3 of the biggest Box Office draws in SW history are now gone. With Carrie Fisher’s death last winter, there was ample time for Rian to change the ending and let Luke live on. How this got past the Disney suits, I will never understand, as the Luke character (with over 40 years of emotional equity with fans) continuing on in the films would all but insure huge Box Office success. Rey, Finn, and Poe are great and I like them —- but they don’t have the MEGA-draw of the “Big 3” and probably never will. The fact remains: Theaters nationwide are noting that fans seem “one and done” with TLJ — they aren’t coming back to see it repeatedly again and again as they did with the Force Awakens.

    • January 15, 2018 at 7:34 am
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      One and done. Is that true? Did you read that somewhere? The movie made an awful lot of money — over an extended period — for that to be true.

      • January 16, 2018 at 5:52 pm
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        Wishful thinking.

    • January 16, 2018 at 5:52 pm
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      Because the Disney suits understand Star Wars better than you.

      It’s a generational saga. And the new generation’s time has come.

    • January 14, 2018 at 4:48 am
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      It’s a side effect of drinking mon calamari semen. (Luke had many secrets).

    • January 14, 2018 at 4:48 am
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      It’s a side effect of drinking mon calamari semen. (Luke had many secrets).

    • January 14, 2018 at 12:41 pm
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      Same way Mark Hamill did…

    • January 16, 2018 at 5:51 pm
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      Uh, that’s what happens to some people? When I was a kid, I had almost blonde hair and it’s very dark now.

    • January 16, 2018 at 5:51 pm
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      Uh, that’s what happens to some people? When I was a kid, I had almost blonde hair and it’s very dark now.

    • January 18, 2018 at 7:49 pm
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      Just For Men!

  • January 14, 2018 at 11:47 am
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    This has nothing to do with the article, but I have to ask where are all these tasty HQ images from? Has the movie leaked online in good quality already? Because the last one I saw looked like it was recorded with a potato.

    • January 15, 2018 at 12:40 am
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      I was wondering the same thing. Where are the nice HD-Quality images coming from?

    • January 15, 2018 at 12:44 am
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      These are from the last episode of The Star Wars Show. While discussing the movie with the LFL Story Group, they showed quite a few scenes from the movie in 1080p HD.

      • January 15, 2018 at 11:38 am
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        ahh god damn it. was already getting my hopes up. well just a few more months then 🙂

  • January 14, 2018 at 12:42 pm
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    To answer the question raised at the end of the post: I thought, in this barrage shot scene, and noticing that Luke would left no footprints shortly after, that Luke was dead all along -that even on Ach-To he was already dead, which was why Rey could not sense him in the Force.

    I even thought that this remanence after death was the reason why he wanted the Jedi to end: they had play too far with death, and following these teachings, he became some sort of a persisting presence in the Force with no true body attached.

  • January 14, 2018 at 4:05 pm
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    Did we, the audience, know at that point in the movie that the saber is broken?

    I’ll sheepishly admit to only having gone once (darn life getting in the way), but as I remember we only had the same amount of information about Rey and the blue saber as Kylo at that point.

    Kylo and Rey each tried to force pull the saber to themselves, and ended up knocking each other out with power. Rey woke up first, took the saber and stole Snoke’s escape pod – and that’s it.

    We found out that the saber was broke when Rey showed us on the Falcon.

    Unless I’m wrong, which is possible.

    • January 16, 2018 at 5:50 pm
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      Yeah, we saw it break

  • January 14, 2018 at 10:08 pm
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    The Blue Saber doesn’t even look natural in Lukes hands anymore.

  • January 15, 2018 at 12:07 am
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    I have never seen a film need as much post-release explaining as this film has received.

    • January 15, 2018 at 4:28 am
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      Dont worry, after 20 more interviews with Rian and 4 novels, it will totally make sense.

      • January 16, 2018 at 5:50 pm
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        Makes sense to me.

    • January 16, 2018 at 5:50 pm
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      Nah

  • January 15, 2018 at 12:04 pm
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    I understand why Rian chose blue but still would of liked green better. We saw the green only in a flashback that many people dis not agree with. I say the green saber is his true jedi knight saber because he had passed his trials with it.

    • January 16, 2018 at 5:50 pm
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      I think it really doesn’t matter

  • January 21, 2018 at 3:57 pm
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    Star Wars has always been pretty liberal. It’s hard to bend the facts with all the written evidence… From issues like social-justice, racism, feminism/female-empowerment to the anti-government frustration of the Nixon/Vietnam War/Watergate era (the most popular leftist/liberal standpoint of the era).
    According to Lucas himself, the Emperor was based on no one, but Nixon himself. And the very basic premise of the PT on the Nixon-era, basically on how democracies don’t fall, but are “given away”.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/star-wars-prequels-return-of-the-jedi_n_3313793.html

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2005-05-18/features/0505180309_1_star-wars-sith-palpatine

    When it came to the prequels, Lucas stood away from the issues because only one movie, RotS was developed post- Bush/Iraq War/Patriot Act era.
    Had the PT been released fully after 9/11 it would’ve been drastically different imo.

    “First of all we never thought of Bush ever becoming president,” “Star Wars”or then 9/11, the Patriot Act, war, weapons of mass destruction. Then suddenly you realize, `Oh, my God, there’s something happening that looks like we’re almost prescient.’ And then we thought, `Well, yeah, but he’ll never make it to the second term, so we’ll look like we just made some wacky political parody of a guy that everybody’s forgotten.'” – Rick McCallum, 2005
    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2005-05-18/features/0505180309_1_star-wars-sith-palpatine

    Credits of the movies? You mean like Kathleen Kennedy (close friend and trustee of Lucas ever since the 80s)? Or Abrams (trustee of Lucas’s best friend, Spielberg, another liberal btw)? Ron Howard (Lucas’s friend since American Graffiti)? Lawrence Kasdan? Bob Iger? Dave Filoni? Not sure who are you telling yourself the “enemy” is…

    Btw, there is no need to lie/excuse yourself here. You’re an Alex Jones alt-right nutjob.
    Directing your frustration towards “insert current public internet-enemy here”. This time the liberals. But strictly limited to the internet only.
    Your kind is all over forums like this, bringing real conservatives a bad name. Spreading off-topic, anti-liberal dogma on Star Wars related colloquia, like some kind of bizarre, unholy quest…

  • February 10, 2018 at 12:32 am
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    I thought Luke was just so powerful he whipped up a quick Force bubble to withstand the walker onslaught. When he did the Matrix move and dodged the saber swing I knew he wasn’t there – but I still didn’t know how Luke was pulling off his astral projection.

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