The Last Jedi Rolling Stone Coverage: Daisy Ridley Is Done Playing Rey After Episode IX

In their latest cover story, Rolling Stone speaks to The Last Jedi writer/director Rian Johnson and members of the cast, about their experiences making the film, its parallels against the backdrop of the world today, and working with the late Carrie Fisher in her final film.

 

 

The coverage and interviews are delightfully candid, and while it doesn’t spoil anything for The Last Jedi, it takes us inside the world of making the film and shines some new light on the actors and the future of the franchise!

 

 

Daisy Ridley realizes that while Star Wars is an escape for us, a place we can take a break from the real world and run with our imaginations, it is also a reflection of society, which tonally this film continues to push at us thematically, that the lines between light and dark might be more blurred than ever:

“It’s somewhat a reflection of society. But also it is escapism, because there are creatures and there are people running around with fucking lasers and shit. So, I think, a wonderful mix of both.”

 

For a fandom with millions of people, and so much passion, regardless of infighting over stories or favorites, or plot devices, ultimately Star Wars is a family from the crew down to the fans. It is a truly uniting experience, a subculture, often a religion where people can come together to share their love for a mythology so rich with stories, especially now in a time where we are getting a new Star Wars film every year. Even the ruthless and brutal Captain Phasma can see that, as Gwendoline Christie opines:

“During testing times, there’s nothing wrong with being transported by art. I think we all need it. Many of us are united in our love for this one thing.”

 

 

If you remember back to The Force Awakens marketing campaign, the trailers were quite dark at times, with serious musical undertones. The film wound up being much more light and fun than we anticipated, while keeping up with some of the serious plot angles of the story. Rian Johnson wants to let it be known that while the second act in a trilogy is often darker, he made sure to keep this film Star Wars, and promises it will still be loaded with charm and fun, amidst some of the darker events that may transpire:

“That’s one thing I hope people will be surprised about with the movie. I think it’s very funny. The trailers have been kind of dark – the movie has that, but I also made a real conscious effort for it to be a riot. I want it to have all the things tonally that I associate with Star Wars, which is not just the Wagner of it. It’s also the Flash Gordon.”

 

 

When the dust settles after The Last Jedi hits theaters, climbs the box office charts, becomes a fan favorite, we will, no matter how much we want to avoid it, have officially seen the last of Carrie Fisher in the saga. Johnson assures us that Carrie’s role was complete, and that he altered nothing to adjust from her passing:

“We didn’t end up changing a thing. Luckily, we had a totally complete performance from her. It’s a sad reality…In terms of going forward, time will tell what ends up getting done.”

 

 

Johnson expressed how he continues to be confused by people shocked he could have written the story without any predetermined end-point or destination. Once again, making it clear that he was the decider of where the story went, and what happened to the characters:

He says no one dictated a single plot point, that he simply decided what happens next. And he’s baffled by fans who are concerned by the idea that they’re “making it up as we go along”: “The truth is, stories are made up! Whether somebody made this whole thing up 10 years ago and put it on a whiteboard and we all have to stick to that, or whether we’re organically finding it as we move forward, it doesn’t mean that any less thought is being put into it.”

 

 

Rian Johnson and Mark Hamill sat down together, talking about how Luke’s story came to be in The Last Jedi, off of where he left off in J.J. Abram’s film. Johnson joked with Hamill that he almost toyed with the idea of making Luke blind at one point! Like an old monk or samurai (this was before that device was applied to a character in Rogue One). The two talked about how they clashed over Luke’s story in the film, ultimately growing closer together through understanding. Hamill’s shock that Luke has become so defeated with a lost sense of hope is endearing, it shows how much that character still means to him 40 years later.

 

 

When asked about Luke’s hardships from the beginning, Hamill compared it to life. That at times he wishes he had Luke’s life rather than his. Johnson explains that yes Luke has gone through horrible events in his life, but that’s what makes him the great hero, he never turned, he always found a way to endure:

“It’s the life of a hero, man,” says Johnson. “That’s what you’ve gotta do to be a hero. You’ve gotta watch people that you love burn to death!”

 

 

 

Adam Driver

 

Adam Driver who we haven’t heard much from in the promotion for the film, perhaps since he famously tongue-in-cheek said he would prefer if the film had no trailers at all, praised Johnson for taking on and executing with brilliance, the task of not only writing and directing a Star Wars film, but continuing off of the story that another writer began:

“If I had that job, I would be stressed out. To pick up where someone left off and carry it forward, but also introduce a vocabulary that hasn’t been seen in a Star Wars movie before, is a tall order and really hard to get right. He’s incredibly smart and doesn’t feel the need to let everyone know it.”

 

 

What drew him to Kylo Ren were the complexities of the character. It wasn’t just “the bad guy” versus “the good guy” to him, which attracted him to the story. He touches on the fact that Kylo Ren is younger than him (Adam is 34), but appears to retract immediately, to not throw new theories into a tornado:

“You have someone who’s being told that he’s special his whole life, and he can feel it. And he feels everything probably more intensely than the people around him, you know? There is a little bit of an elitist, royalty thing going on,” he says, reminding us that the character’s estranged mom is “the princess. I think he’s aware of maybe the privilege.” He does acknowledge playing Kylo Ren younger than his own age of 34: “I don’t want to say how much younger, ’cause people will read into it. . . .” He flushes, and later says he regrets mentioning it at all.

 

 

Driver makes a good point, one we have seen as early as Kevin Smith’s Clerks (1994), that while the Empire was indeed evil, they were still people, at work, with jobs, families, blown to nothing: 

“It’s not like people weren’t living on the Death Star … isn’t that also an act of terrorism? Did they not have families? I see how people can point to examples that make themselves feel they’re right. And when you feel in your bones that you’re supported by a higher power on top of that, and you’re morally right, there’s no limit to what you’ll do to make sure that you win. Both sides feel this way.”

 

That is about as serious of a metaphor you can bring to the table for Star Wars, so to round it out by, bringing some “balance” or levity to the interview, he gives us an idea of the difference between watching Star Wars, experiencing the spectacle, compared to being on set when the cameras aren’t rolling, but the atmosphere still looks the same:

“Watching Star Wars, it’s an action-adventure,” he says. “But shooting it, it’s a straight comedy. Stormtroopers trying to find a bathroom. People dressed as trolls, like, running into doorways. It’s hilarious.” And when he wears his helmet, he can’t see very well. “You’re supposed to be very stealth, and a tree root takes you down.”

 

 

Daisy Ridley

 

 

J. J. Abrams has recently stated that he sees Episode IX as the end of the Skywalker saga, and possibly the most shocking part of this Rolling Stone coverage is that Daisy Ridley has adamantly said she doesn’t want to play Rey beyond the end of this trilogy, that this will be it. When asked she replied:

“No. For me, I didn’t really know what I was signing on to. I hadn’t read the script, but from what I could tell, it was really nice people involved, so I was just like, ‘Awesome.’ Now I think I am even luckier than I knew then, to be part of something that feels so like coming home now.”

 

Rolling Stone‘s Brian Hiatt points out that answer actually almost sounds like a “yes”:

“No,” she says again, smiling a little. “No, no, no. I am really, really excited to do the third thing and round it out, because ultimately, what I was signing on to was three films. So in my head, it’s three films. I think it will feel like the right time to round it out.”

 

When asked if perhaps in 30 years, in her mid-fifties, if called upon, could she make a return as the legacy characters Luke, Han, and Leia have, she says possibly, but couldn’t wrap her mind around that thought.

 

Star Wars: The Last Jedi hits theaters in 15 days! We will get many of the answers we are looking for, with more questions to come, in a movie that will be much lighter than we are being shown through marketing, with characters on both sides of the aisle between light and dark believing what they are doing is right.

 

 

SOURCE: Rolling Stone 

 

 

You can find me on Twitter @JohnnyHoey, and we’ll be talking about this on The Resistance Broadcast @RBatSWNN!

 

 

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85 thoughts on “The Last Jedi Rolling Stone Coverage: Daisy Ridley Is Done Playing Rey After Episode IX

    • November 29, 2017 at 8:02 pm
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      Isn’t this the problem in Hollyweird? People not understanding that no means NO – Maybe too topical 🙁

      • November 29, 2017 at 10:24 pm
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        Exactly the problem.
        Just because it’s asked over and over and in different ways, the answer is still… NO.

  • November 29, 2017 at 5:55 pm
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    When they need her back, she will be back. All it will take is stacks of money when she has nothing better to do. I don’t mind her taking a break though – it seems to insinuate that other stories are on the horizon and we’ll see new things. I do love Rey and Daisey though!

    • November 29, 2017 at 7:35 pm
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      No offense, but Daisy isn’t going to have a ton of other offers out there.

      • November 29, 2017 at 7:39 pm
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        Eh, she might. She’s talented and attractive. She’ll do just fine.

        • November 29, 2017 at 11:06 pm
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          Yes now but how about after the saga ends…

          • November 29, 2017 at 11:32 pm
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            The Force Awakens propelled her into the stratosphere. There’s no evidence to suggest her star is going to wane anytime soon.

          • November 29, 2017 at 11:42 pm
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            It kind of depends on whether any of her other projects hits paydirt. She’s got Murder on the Orient express, which, if good, could get her cred to do more artsy movies and period pieces. But there’s also Tomb Raider, which I’m sure she’s hoping will be her ‘Raiders of the Lost Ark’ (the follow-up to SW that established Harrison Ford as not just a one-hit wonder, but a top leading man in Hollywood). That’s a pretty promising (because diverse) combo of projects–not to mention all the other stuff she has on her plate.

          • November 30, 2017 at 2:26 am
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            ‘Tomb Raider’? You mean the film starring Alicia Vikander?

          • November 30, 2017 at 3:24 am
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            Don’t forget Murder on the Orient Express, if it’s good. Which has been out for weeks now. And it’s not.

    • November 29, 2017 at 7:42 pm
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      I agree. I really hope Lucasfilm takes a break between the main episodic trilogies. From what it sounds like with Johnson’s new trilogy, that’s exactly what they’ll do. When the decide to return to E10 in several years, Ridley might feel differently.

    • November 29, 2017 at 8:50 pm
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      I don’t know why he hesitated to say how young he was playing the character when we already know that he’s 29 in TFA. There’s a wide range of maturity people in their 20’s can display so I don’t see it being an issue. There isn’t really too much to read into it in my personal opinion. Ben just doesn’t have his life together and clearly is not satisfied with where his life is along with major underlying issues he hasn’t brought to the surface yet.

      • November 29, 2017 at 9:22 pm
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        He must know that SW fans read into every turn of phrase from the official marketing. A little thing said off the cuff and phrased in the most subtly suggestive way can produces literally hundreds of pages of back and forth on the Cantina forums, for example.

  • November 29, 2017 at 7:27 pm
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    I just watched the Force Awakens again and it is amazing how young Kylo Ren seems in relation to other parts Adam Driver has played. I’m not talking about the tantrums, but specifically the scene between Kylo and Han Solo.

  • November 29, 2017 at 8:06 pm
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    Yeah we are going to ditch the the Skywalkers until our own creations tank and then the Skywalkers will be back. But don’t you worry, all of our merchandise will still have the original cast cause we’re not that dumb.

    -Disney

    • November 30, 2017 at 4:39 pm
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      You make me laugh so hard.

  • November 29, 2017 at 8:21 pm
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    That’s because Rey is dead. Enter Darth *insert her Sith name here* LONG LIVE THE SITH!!!

    • November 30, 2017 at 2:54 am
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      Rey is Snoke.

      • November 30, 2017 at 5:30 am
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        Stop. R2 is definitely Snoke.

        • November 30, 2017 at 8:05 pm
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          My new favorite theory! Like a Wizard of Oz projection type thing. Lol.

          • November 30, 2017 at 8:21 pm
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            All of these fools will soon realize the true power of this droid. Lol.

    • November 30, 2017 at 9:55 am
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      Or….Rey is not a Skywalker. In which case, she could appear later in a SW movie without that movie being a numbered episode (as they made it clear the numbered episodes were all about the Skywalker family)

      • November 30, 2017 at 4:01 pm
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        I honestly don’t think that would be the case. She’s the new protagonist of the saga films, so she’s tainted with that history. Her continuation if any should happen in X, XI, and XII.

  • November 29, 2017 at 9:05 pm
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    Bah. She’ll be Rey again in a heartbeat if TLJ/9 all pans out. If they plan to cap it all off here they’d better have a heck of a send off.

    Surprised Rian doesn’t under why fans wouldn’t be concerned about a trilogy having no direction… Of course we understand stories are made up. Typically the best ones are well thought out.

    Most stories start losing the magic once the planned story line ends… I dare say he verged on hubris there. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt it was just an off the cuff remark.

    • November 29, 2017 at 9:20 pm
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      They spend months and years on these screenplays. What makes you think they’re not well thought out? This assumes that pre-outlining is the best way of writing a story, which it is for some writers, but not others…

      • November 29, 2017 at 9:28 pm
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        Technically… even George RR Martin who famously says he let’s the characters take him where ever… still pre-outlines. He goes back and edits things to make sure it all fits. He may follow where they lead but he makes sure they having a guiding point.

        We’ve all witnessed what happens when the original idea gets expanded past it’s end point. Very very rarely does it live up to origin.

        TV series are one of the best examples of this. A solid first season leads into a meandering second… a desperate third etc etc.

        Again it’s not an absolute. Still to announce a trilogy of movies and not have any sort of story in mind for all three before you start is strange to me. I had hope when Kasdan and JJ supposedly mapped something out. Then they basically said they threw that all out and Rian did whatever he wanted.

        Presumably JJ will do whatever he wants with the end. That’s worrisome to me.

        • November 29, 2017 at 10:36 pm
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          Like I said, some writers pre-outline, others don’t. This includes some great filmmakers. For example, Hitchcock meticulously pre-planned his films (basically inventing the storyboard), while Terrence Malick tends to make the most important plot decisions in editing.

          GL claims to have had a plan for the OT, but now we know that whatever plans he had changed as he made those movies. I understand your worries and sympathize with them to some extent, but in the end, the final product is what matters.

        • November 30, 2017 at 4:38 pm
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          TV is actually where this shines because most TV is made up and rarely planned out.

      • November 29, 2017 at 10:14 pm
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        When you set out with the intent up front to make a trilogy, you really ought to have some endgame in mind to justify the assumption that it’s a trilogy. If you’re just going to “discovery write” a trilogy, I would be incredibly surprised if you hit the proper pacing and length. I would be very impressed if it turned out well! The reality is that if they really have no idea as much as they seem to keep saying, then how on earth do they even know that they can tell the final part in ~2 hours? Without anything feeling rushed or contrived?

        It’s perfectly reasonable for someone to sit down and just start writing and for a great story of some variable length to emerge. But to sit down with the hope of making a “trilogy” where each individual part is both its own story but also a beginning, middle, and end to a trilogy is something else entirely. At the very least they’re playing a risky game; they might do it rather skillfully, but undoubtedly pre-outlining would be the preferred method when you plan to sell a complete story in 3 parts released every 2 years on the dot

        • November 29, 2017 at 11:32 pm
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          Yeah, like I said, I can see your point of view. Your points seem especially apt for a serialized work, where finalized versions of various pieces come out before the later pieces are made. For example, Dickens outlined his novels meticulously, in part because they were originally serialized. So, it’s not as if he could go back easily and change earlier pieces if, when he was working on the later parts, he came to a new idea about the earlier ones.

          I guess I’m just more optimistic than you are about the ST. In part, this is because I suspect they’re just *saying* it wasn’t planned out as part of an effort to minimize the common worry that ‘the studio’ or ‘the suits’ aren’t giving directors leeway to put their own stamp on the story: a worry that’s gotten worse since the multiple director changes on other projects.

          If I were a betting man, I’d bet that they’ve had a kind of rough outline of major story beats for the ST; but that they also told RJ something like “Hey, if you come up with something better that really wows us and looks like it’s gonna work, we’ll go ahead and do that instead!”

          • November 30, 2017 at 5:04 pm
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            Honestly, I’m with you. It makes me uneasy when they talk that way, and I’m also skeptical that they didn’t REALLY plan any of it out. In the end I expect Last Jedi to be pretty good, and if nothing else, I’m comforted that the guy who started the trilogy is the one finishing it

        • November 30, 2017 at 4:37 pm
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          Lucas didn’t.

          • November 30, 2017 at 5:03 pm
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            Not saying it can’t work, just that it’s risky.

            My understanding was he didn’t know he would get to make a movie after the first one. And I know he wasn’t planning a trilogy with the first one, but didn’t he plan the other 2 together? On top of that, he didn’t have a tight release schedule like these movies, so is it really that comparable?

          • November 30, 2017 at 7:52 pm
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            No, he didn’t plan the other two together. He made each movie one at a time. he didn’t start on ROTJ until after Empire was out. Leia wasn’t Luke’s sister until ROTJ. That wasn’t part of the plan until then. He never planned it all out. Not even the PT.

            It’s very comparable because that’s how Star Wars has always been made, regardless of schedule.

          • November 30, 2017 at 7:59 pm
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            Fair enough.

            Are you saying it doesn’t make you the slightest bit nervous though?
            I’m personally super stoked about these movies, and fairly optimistic about them. But I would feel so much more secure if I knew they had a plan. I’ve consumed a lot of great stories that were ad libbed, but reading just about anything by Brandon Sanderson recently has fully persuaded me that pre-outlining is the cat’s pajamas

          • November 30, 2017 at 9:41 pm
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            No, because this is how everything is made. A plan is limiting. TFA even changed as they were filming it because of the chemistry between Finn and Rey and once they saw how Rey was portraying her, they adjusted things and their relationship.

            Breaking Bad, for instance: Jesse was supposed to die, but they loved how great he was and kept him on. The show was better for it.

            The ability to adapt and adjust on the fly to things is why they don’t plan it all out ahead of time and it reaps rewards.

          • November 30, 2017 at 10:37 pm
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            Not accurate. While it’s true that on SW there wasn’t much of an overall plan, because this last 40 years wasn’t supposed to happen, and as a result they had to beat their heads against the wall figuring out what came next on Empire (much of which ended up being truncated anyways when Lucas decided he was packing it in after Jedi), on the PT, Lucas absolutely knew the broad strokes of where his story and characters were going and what themes he wanted to explore over the three films.

      • November 30, 2017 at 2:54 am
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        My first clue was when Abrams said he had no idea what the answers were to any of the nonsense he left dangling in the first one. My second clue was when Johnson said he came into the second film and there were no answers, and no general ideas about where the story was going.

    • November 30, 2017 at 12:48 am
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      Disney gets a young actress that people love and makes them billions of dollars……. and they decide to ax her at Episode 9?
      If they do, this will be the first time in their long history Disney has willingly walked away from free money.

      • November 30, 2017 at 7:44 am
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        You are RIGHT — Rey is popular enough to carry an entire trilogy after Ep 9. But sadly, that doesn’t appear to be happening.

      • November 30, 2017 at 4:36 pm
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        Ax her? It’s her decision.

    • November 30, 2017 at 4:37 pm
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      Surprised you don’t understand that most stories, including trilogies, including the first two Star Wars trilogies, WERE NOT PLANNED.

      The best ones are well thought out, but does that mean they are planned? The PT and OT weren’t. Name some that were, please. I don’t know of many.

      “Most stories start losing the magic once the planned story line ends”

      The opposite is true here.

      • November 30, 2017 at 6:58 pm
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        You can’t be serious? There is literally too many to name. Most first run comics, TV series, books and movies. Examples… Matrix, Arrow, The Flash, Hunger Games, Jurassic Park, Aliens, Terminator almost any major movie franchise that goes beyond 2 or 3. Heck even Stranger Things. I liked season 2 but you could tell they ran out of the magic of the original simply because it wasn’t as planned out. I’m struggling to think of series I’ve ever said this is better than the first season, movie, book etc. The new Planet of the Apes trilogy? 😛

        George Lucas also used a guiding point. He had a general idea where he wanted to go and filled it out as he went. My problem with the NT is that they don’t even appear to having a guiding point.

        Which goes back to my earlier worry that TLJ is actually the most important part of the plot. This is what’s going to set the “why” of the whole trilogy. I hope they came up with something good.

        I’m not saying it’s impossible. I’m saying it’s worrisome. Almost verging on disrespectful. Again… they said something very different at the start of TFA. That Kasdan and JJ were planning it out. Then… that was tossed?

        • November 30, 2017 at 7:51 pm
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          Jurassic Park? They had one movie and then they made the next movie…they didn’t have a plan
          The Matrix was something that was allegedly planned out and it the quality dipped drastically from the first to the second.

          Aliens was not planned out when Alien was made and neither was Terminator 2. I don’t even know what you are talking about at this point because you clearly have no idea how these movies were made.

          Do you know for a fact that the Planet of the Apes was planned out? Often times, they write one movie, have a general idea and then write the next one, but things can change drastically from one movie to the other. That isn’t planned out. That’s normal.

          George Lucas wrote each movie one at a time and didn’t plan on:

          1. Luke being Vader’s son.
          2. Leia being Luke’s sister

          until it was time to write those movies. He had ideas, but only in a vague sense.

          This is how EVERYTHING is made, for the most part, Star Wars most importantly.

          Give me specifics on what you mean by Alien and Aliens bc Ridley Scott made Alien and James Cameron made Aliens and they were years apart. None of that was planned.

          As for TV shows that are better than the first season:

          Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad, Man Men, Game of Thrones, The Shield, Seinfeld, Justified, Deadwood, etc and etc…

          • November 30, 2017 at 8:10 pm
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            I was using examples of things that didn’t have a plan. Thus the quality drop was my point. Again… there are of course exceptions on both sides but I’d still easily argue the bad outweighs the good. As you listed some of the best shows on television. Now let’s list the other 10,000. 😛

          • November 30, 2017 at 9:38 pm
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            Yes, and I asked you to list the ones that had a plan because the vast majority don’t. I can’t really recall very many. Writers don’t like to work that way.

            Almost every TV show is made that way. Very few have a definitive plan.

            Game of Thrones has dropped in quality and risen as well. I was speaking from the first season. It got better from then and worse.

  • November 29, 2017 at 10:21 pm
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    i dont mind really , dont feel too much for this new characters i hope TLJ changes that

  • November 29, 2017 at 11:20 pm
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    I feel like its a little too early to decide. She still has one whole movie to shoot and promote. I don’t balme her for feeling this way because typecasting can be a real issue for Star Wars actors. If they are never going to do any Episode X (but they likely will) I can understand if Rey never appears again. If they were going to do a solo film for one New Trilogy character I feel like Poe would be the most original one.

    • November 29, 2017 at 11:38 pm
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      It could also be the whole ‘playing hard to get’ thing: a negotiating tactic, maybe one that Ridley’s agents and/or managers have suggested to her. Make it sound as if it’s an open question whether you’d come back, so that you’re in a better negotiating position if they ask. After all, she’s got loads of projects on the table right now, and she’s definitely not being typecast into a single kind of movie: she’s got projects all over the place. Good for her. I’m sure she’s hoping to go more the way of Harrison Ford than the way of Carrie Fisher or Mark Hamill, career-wise: hoping for that ‘Raiders of the Lost Ark’ type follow-up to SW, rather than, say a ‘Corvette Summer’ style follow-up.

  • November 30, 2017 at 12:43 am
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    I blame all of you stalkers for this.

  • November 30, 2017 at 1:01 am
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    If Rian had made Luke blind, I would have hated him for the rest of my life.

    • November 30, 2017 at 2:48 am
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      As opposed to now, where you’re well disposed to him, and are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this film until you’ve actually seen it.

      • November 30, 2017 at 3:05 am
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        I don’t despise Rian at all. I might post-Dec 15 —- I do find him annoying thus far but still undecided till I see his *ahem* film.

        • November 30, 2017 at 4:21 pm
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          Who..who hurt you?

          • November 30, 2017 at 8:46 pm
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            “Show me on this Forces of Destiny Chewie doll where the bad director touched you.”

        • November 30, 2017 at 8:51 pm
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          I didn’t say ‘despise’, I said ‘disposed’. Reading is magical. You are going into this from a position of “I already know how the film is going to play out, I already know what it’s going to be, and I already know what I hate about it” – you’ve absolutely prejudged whatever this film is going to be, and you’ve done it from the utterly puerile, juvenile sense of storytelling you have embedded in your skull. In that sense, yeah, the film probably WON’T live up to what you’re expecting…thank GOD, because that sounds like a circle jerking fanwank of fucking EPIC proportions.

        • December 1, 2017 at 5:39 am
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          What about him, specifically, do you find annoying, and why?

  • November 30, 2017 at 2:59 am
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    Most interesting. For starters, Ridley not coming back as Rey past Episode Nine, I can understand why. Let’s be honest; outside of Harrison Ford and Billy Dee Williams, most of the SWs actors post the movies had a rough time. So, I can understand her not wanting to be typecast. As for her continuing as Rey; for me, I’m indifferent. While I enjoyed her performance, I found the character bland. Hopefully, TLJ can change that.

    As for Rian Johnson, I can understand his shock, but at the same time, given how TFA was so setup as a mystery box, I can understand why it frightened people. Unlike, a TV show, like Lost, where we the audience can see those elements hopefully resolved, this is a movie.

    A self-contained story in three acts. So for us to wait and hopefully get clarification is really not good. That said, to play devil’s advocate the OT I argue wasn’t really that planned out. Yes, Lucas had plenty of notes and details he had written down; I’m not denying that.

    But stuff, like Leia kissing Luke in ESB and ROTJ finding out they are siblings, you can tell that stuff wasn’t initially planned. It is why I argue the Original Trilogy while amazing, isn’t the best movie trilogy. I argue that goes to LOTRs actually due to how each film stands alone and is fantastic.

    • November 30, 2017 at 3:01 am
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      As for starters, let me be clear; much as I am not a fan of TFA, I genuinely want TLJ to succeed. Not just because Rian Johnson and my love for his work, but really because I want to believe that LF had a plan. That their story group wasn’t throwing darts at a darboard. That this will all make sense. And that they aren’t just aping the stuff from the past.

      That they can produce some truly great things, much like Legends did. Because, a part of me feels bad for not liking TFA. And really, if TLJ is good, I mean genuinely, a fantastic film that exceeds, heck, goes above expectations; I would be happy to relook at TFA as I did TCW. Where it was a rocky start, but got a lot better.

      • November 30, 2017 at 8:46 am
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        Your first sentence eludes to the notion that TFA didn’t succeed. Huh, it is only the highest grossing movie of all time in North America by about $200 million. Mainly from repeat viewings by hundreds of thousands of fans. Except you….

        • November 30, 2017 at 9:40 am
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          “Your first sentence eludes to the notion that TFA didn’t succeed. Huh,”

          Strawman. I never once made that claim in my posts. The first post was me commenting on Ridley and the RS article in general. And my second post was me making it clear that I am excited for TLJ and me feeling bad for me not liking TFA.

          Me not liking TFA is NOT the same as me saying TFA didn’t succeed, especially with your evidence financially. If I said something along the lines of “I don’t get why people love TFA” or “Everyone thinks TFA sucks”, you’d be right.

          “, it is only the highest grossing movie of all time in North America by about $200 million. Mainly from repeat viewings by hundreds of thousands of fans. Except you….”

          Your second point is moot in that it is an appeal to popularity. Yeah, millions of fans worldwide may love TFA and it did make a ton of money. But the majority isn’t right. And in the case of movies, where the entire decision is like picking Chocolate or vanilla ice cream. Everyone going with chocolate doesn’t mean that vanilla is wrong or an inferior choice.

          And for me and anyone else, TFA is like chocolate. I simply do not really care for it. If everyone else does, cool.

  • November 30, 2017 at 7:41 am
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    It’s very interesting watching Daisy do interviews for TLJ. Again, they feel so DIFFERENT than her TFA interviews where we saw — HOPE, optimism, and excitement in her eyes. In the TLJ interviews, watching her discomfort and description of the film as “It’s different” is very telling. Maybe she DETECTS the damage that Rian will soon inflict on the Franchise, and has decided she wants no part of it once that Episode 9 contract is up……. Just my own conjecture, but it IS clear that talking about TLJ makes her a tad uncomfortable.

    • November 30, 2017 at 8:01 am
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      “If you look for the light, you can often find it.But if you look for the dark that is all you will ever see.” Iroh- Legend of Korra

      This is you right now, seeking darkness, more specifically, every instance to hate this movie in one slippery slope and hasty conclusions.

      There is a fine line between skepticism and just wanting your confirmation bias/ looking for flaws. And you have clearly crossed it. And it is people like you that make me so utterly sick of the Star Wars fandom. So yeah, keep spouting your doom and gloom. You have a right to an opinion, but that doesn’t mean people, like myself, have to take it seriously.

      Especially, when someone utilizes faulty logic. And really the rational people can benefit from this so as they don’t fall into the same pitfall you have fallen.

      • November 30, 2017 at 9:03 am
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        Before TFA, I was a big ball of daily enthusiasm 🙂

        • November 30, 2017 at 9:42 am
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          That may be the problem actually.

          You seem to be either all light or all dark. You may want to just go forward with an open mind, not judging before seeing, not expecting anything. Just “seize the day” instead of letting your day be ruined by “what may or may not be”.

          That’s how I went in to TFA. Though there were parts I liked more than others, I actually enjoyed the movie. So, this is also how I choose to go for TLJ.

      • November 30, 2017 at 4:07 pm
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        STAHP!! I fucking love TLOK.

        • November 30, 2017 at 5:51 pm
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          I know. I love Korra as well. I have been rewatching it and I find that show criminally underrated. Yeah, it has problems, but Korra to me is a fantastic character and one the writers of Rey, Kasdan, Ardnt and Abrams could have learned a lot from in my view.

          But really, I thought this quote would be appropirate to describe, Kent, and basically, everyone else who has been soured by an experience. Yeah, there is nothing wrong critiquing it or even voicing disapproval. But mindset does matter. If you dread something and keep dreading it, that single thought is the only thing that will preoccupy your mind.

          And as a result, it becomes self-fulfilling. For TFA, a part of me dreaded JJ Abrams directing, but like Rian Johnson(ignoring my love of his work), I suspended those thoughts and went in with a cautiously optimistic mindset.

          • November 30, 2017 at 8:19 pm
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            I agree with it being underrated. Having an Avatar with pretty much the world working against her was a fresh take for a hero type character. Unlike Aang I felt like her experiences were humbling and made her character development worth everything she’s been through, and damn she’s been through hell lol.

          • November 30, 2017 at 9:43 pm
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            Agreed. And my hope is that Rey is something like Korra where she is incredibly skilled but has barriers with her personality like so single minded to figure out who she is and ultimately learns to humble up and become more rounded.

            Because to me, The ST can keep the aesthetic of the OT but the main hero shouldn’t just be the simple hero’s journey we got with Luke. Let Rey, like Korra, be that figure who forges her own path.

      • November 30, 2017 at 4:35 pm
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        That idea is not original to that anime.

    • November 30, 2017 at 8:22 am
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      You’re growing increasingly unhinged here, desperately searching for reasons that this movie will be bad when literally every piece of inside information we have suggests Lucasfilm is over the moon with how the film turned out. They gave its director his own TRILOGY, for crying out loud. Stop seeing what you want to see and grow up.

      • November 30, 2017 at 9:02 am
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        Its undeniable that “It’s different” is not the most glowing words she could use. Her words, not mine.

        • November 30, 2017 at 10:31 am
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          No. She says “it’s different” because that’s what fans want to hear. Remember what was the most common criticism for TFA? Right. That’s the only reason everyone talks about this one being “different”. It’s just marketing, just business, and probably has little to do with jow good or bad this film is.

          Actually, if you ask me, judging from her interviews, I think Daisy Ridley doesn’t care about Star Wars at all. (And I’m fine with that.) So I highly doubt that she could be upset about this film being different and “not Star Wars”.

        • November 30, 2017 at 2:56 pm
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          i told last time i will send u 5 dollars to kill urself i just need that addy

    • December 1, 2017 at 5:38 am
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      Kathleen Kennedy just hired Rian Johnson to write an entire new trilogy.

  • November 30, 2017 at 9:28 am
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    I don’t think she means she is forever done with the character, I think she is just saying she will be happy to step away for a while after completing her trilogy. If Disney is smart and waits a few years between episodes 9 and 10 then I bet she will come back as an older rey

    • November 30, 2017 at 9:44 am
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      And that is something I can see. Especially, given how she wants to perhaps build her career beyond just Star Wars and wants a break. And that is perfectly reasonable, because I’d hate for her or anyone to just foam in a performance for a paycheck. Be excited to be in future movies.

      Plus, I could see her not wanting to be typecasted. Which let’s be honest; this happened a lot with Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher. And has been prevalent in most big franchises. Just look at Harry Potter?

    • November 30, 2017 at 8:04 pm
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      I feel like if Disney can get Harrison Ford to come back and play Han Solo, a character he has made abundantly clear that he wanted to move on from in 1980, I think they should have no problems convincing Daisy to return if needed. If they could afford Harrison’s paycheck, I think they can pretty much get anybody back on board.

  • November 30, 2017 at 10:44 am
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    Wow, some pretty random cursing from Daisy there. Not saying I have anything against it, but it was pretty weird and unnecessary…

    • November 30, 2017 at 4:35 pm
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      She is British and curses a lot.

  • November 30, 2017 at 4:06 pm
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    It’s crazy I’m going into this movie knowing less than I did for TFA. I’m so excited.

  • December 3, 2017 at 4:21 am
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    “..fucking lasers and shit.”
    Would the site mods be upset if I changed my forum handle to that?

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