EW on Finn and Rose’s Relationship and The Last Jedi’s Similarities to The Empire Strikes Back!

Anthony Breznican at Entertainment Weekly, again, gives us a sneak peek into more details of The Last Jedi. This time, we get a closer look at the relationship between Finn and Rose and a little bit about what all the characters will be doing throughout the movie.



It is revealed that Finn is still struggling with the temptation to walk away from anything that has to do with the war, including the Resistance.

It got really real for him,” John Boyega tells EW. “And he just wants to get away and not be involved. His intention in the first place was to go to the Outer Rim. He was always brought back [in The Force Awakens,], but this is his chance to get away and perhaps find Rey and go off together. He’s trying to do that at first.



The newcomer to the film, Rose Tico, played by Kelly Marie Tran, is discussed as being a “nobody”. Boyega mentions that she is only involved because the First Order destroyed her home. All our main heroes from The Force Awakens are fairly well known in the galaxy now for their help in the destruction of Starkiller Base. Rose, a Resistance mechanic, is not important to the grand scheme of things: at least not yet. Her sister Paige, played by Veronica Ngo, is a pilot with Poe Dameron and is more well known than Rose.


Tran told EW, “Poe Dameron is super cool. Finn’s super cool. Even though [Rose] is good at what she does, she’s not known,” Tran says. “She’s not cool. She’s this nobody, this background player, which is what makes her interesting. She’s not the best. She’s not royalty. She’s someone who is just like everyone else.”


Rose looks up to these heroes and gives Finn, in particular, something to live up to and something to fight for.


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Director Rian Johnson gives us some insight into whether The Last Jedi will mirror plot elements of The Empire Strikes Back as did The Force Awakens to A New Hope.

I just tried to kind of ignore that aspect of it and have the story take the shape that it needed to,” Johnson says. “But look, Rey is off in a remote location with a Jedi master, and the Resistance is in a tough spot, and we’re intercutting those stories. By its very nature, there are some structural parallels. But these are new characters, they’re dealing with new things, and that ultimately is what defines the movie. So I think that’s going to be unique.



Johnson also discusses that the films are similar in that some of our heroes venture to a luxurious city. This time, it’s not Cloud City but it’s Canto Bight, what Johnson describes as “Vegas with Aliens”.


It seems like the relationship that Rose and Finn will have will be very critical to the decisions that Finn makes throughout the movie. I’m also surprised to see the similarities to The Empire Strikes Back, yet it sounds like Johnson is confident that the movie is unique enough to not seem like a rehash of the 1980 film.


Here’s Breznican’s video on Finn and Rose:




Do you think that all the sequel trilogy movies will parallel the originals in some way? What is your thoughts on Finn and Rose’s relationship thus far? Let us know in the comments and in the Cantina what you think!



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46 thoughts on “EW on Finn and Rose’s Relationship and The Last Jedi’s Similarities to The Empire Strikes Back!

    • August 9, 2017 at 11:09 pm

      Chewie is still aging backwards I see.

      • August 10, 2017 at 12:59 am

        True, but over 99% of the audience won’t notice.

      • August 10, 2017 at 1:13 am

        The Curious Case of Chewbacca Button

        • August 10, 2017 at 5:58 pm

          Snoke is an Old Button Wookiee.

          You heard it here first.

      • August 10, 2017 at 2:35 pm

        wookies get more blonde with age and he’s not that old. wookies live for quite a bit if they don’t get slaved or shot

    • August 9, 2017 at 11:58 pm

      Oh I see!

      The Porg was eaten, stuffed, and is now the new lever on the hyperdrive instead of the compressor that moof milker Unkar Plut installed. So each time the Falcon goes into hyperdrive, the porg is petted!

      • August 10, 2017 at 12:58 am

        Lol. I was thinking the Porg ate Ray and is now piloting the Falcon.

    • August 10, 2017 at 3:13 pm

      I tried to click the arrow keys in the image you posted -.-

  • August 9, 2017 at 10:09 pm

    When I first saw the Canto Bight set, my immediate thought was indeed Cloud City. I don’t have a problem with similarities with its predecessors as I genuinely believe such parallels are unavoidable. Simply the constraints of a movie franchise. People want more of what they’ve seen before. It’s the detail moving forward that makes the difference.

    • August 10, 2017 at 7:37 am

      No part of Canto Bight that we have seen resembles any part of Cloud City depicted in Empire. Other canon sources mention casinos on Cloud City, but there’s no mention of them in Empire. So they are about as similar as Atlantic City and Las Vegas, which is to say not much at all.

      • August 10, 2017 at 8:34 am

        I’ve clocked up more than my share of hours playing Battlefront. One of the sabotage games on the Bespin maps has you playing out in scenery that looks very similar to that set.

      • August 10, 2017 at 5:57 pm

        The Special Edition shows a bit more of Bespin that resembles CB. And the Rogue Squadron game too.

        Also, let’s not forget most houses and skyscrapers are similar all over the planet. Remove the people and lettering from buildings and we wouldn’t know where a street is in a photo.

    • August 10, 2017 at 3:12 pm

      My guess is that you feel that way about canto bight because they try to stay more true to the designs Ralph McQuarrie came up with. Dome shaped strcutures, rounded edges (both iside of buildings and ouside of buildings), clean shapes with plain walls except for some pieces of exposed technology or some aurebesh letters. I am not saying there isn’t a lot you can do with these elemnts but there’s always going to be some resemblance to other SW designs and that is a good thing imo

      • August 10, 2017 at 3:36 pm

        From playing the Bespin DLC in Battlefront, you get a really good look and feel for Cloud City. From all the hours of gameplay, the first thought that entered my head after seeing the Canto Bight set was Cloud City. As you have pointed out, the architecture is very similar. I like it, I have no problem with it, it was just my initial observation. I’m sure the outdoor shots, filmed on location will set it apart from Empire.

    • August 10, 2017 at 4:04 pm

      When I first saw Cloud City, my immediate thought was Kamino. When I first saw Kamino, my immediate thought was Otoh Gunga. When I first saw Otoh Gunga, my immediate thought was Nemodian Trade Federation Lucrehulk class battleship….

  • August 9, 2017 at 11:03 pm

    TLJ characters I care literally nothing about: Rose.

    • August 9, 2017 at 11:08 pm

      Maybe you will, once you get to know her, like LANDO in ESB.

    • August 10, 2017 at 12:29 am

      We know, we know.

    • August 10, 2017 at 12:57 am

      A bit preemptive being as we’ve not seen the movie yet or even have much of a grasp of what Rose will do.

    • August 10, 2017 at 4:20 am

      You notice Marvel movies don’t do this. Hey check it out it’s Spider-Man! Hulk! Thor! oh and here’s Bob and Linda!

      So dumb.

      • August 10, 2017 at 5:55 pm

        Well….those characters are over 50 years old with vast mythologies spanning multiple generations, multiple films, to the point that even general audiences don’t want to see their origin stories anymore……

      • August 11, 2017 at 3:28 am

        They kind of do though. Iron Man had Happy. Thor had Darcy. Spiderman had Ned.

    • August 10, 2017 at 7:37 pm

      TLJ character we also know literally nothing about: Rose
      Please be patient.

  • August 9, 2017 at 11:39 pm

    I have a feeling that the “love story” in this trilogy will be between Finn and Rose. Rey will be too busy with her Jedi training and battling Kylo / Snoke to have any sort of romance – and I think that’s the way it should be. Rose will likely be the one to make Finn stick around and stay committed to the cause, much like Leia did for Han in the OT.

    • August 10, 2017 at 2:14 am

      Agree with Finn and Rose, but I can also see Kylo Ren and Rey becoming romantically linked.

      • August 10, 2017 at 4:19 am

        I accidentally posted this in the wrong discussion, so I’ll post it here…

        I don’t know, I think a Kylo-Rey romance would be a tough sell. Let’s just review their interactions from the first movie:

        1) Kylo abducts Rey, torments her and tries to mind-rape her.
        2) Rey resists Kylo’s mind probe and makes him look like a punk to Snoke.
        3) Kylo kills Han Solo in front of her eyes – someone she hadn’t known very long but obviously someone she viewed as somewhat of a father figure (probably the closest thing she’s ever had to a father in fact).
        4) Kylo seriously injures Finn – one of her very few friends in the entire galaxy – and almost kills him in battle.
        5) Rey, a seemingly untrained scavenger from a backwater junk planet, lays a thorough beat-down on Kylo and scars his face – likely making him look like more of a weak punk to Snoke once he finds out.

        As we can see, it doesn’t look like there’s going to be any love lost between these characters in the coming movies. Kylo definitely does not seem like a charismatic ladies man like his father – he’s way more…..serious. Intense. Severe. I bet he wants nothing more than to get revenge on Rey, not make out with her. And I have a hard time seeing any warm and fuzzy feelings coming from Rey towards him either. Having them “fall in love” would definitely seem to go against expectation, but I think that story choice would be a bad idea at this point. Too unbelievable. Too soap opera.

        • August 10, 2017 at 5:38 am

          Ah, just read this..move along..move along.

          • August 10, 2017 at 6:19 am

            Like I mentioned at the very beginning, I accidentally posted this in the wrong discussion initially. Couldn’t delete it….

          • August 10, 2017 at 6:48 am

            Yea you make valid points, but I posted what I posed earlier before I got to read the rest of the thread.

        • August 10, 2017 at 2:04 pm

          Agree with all your points, and I know the probability of a Kylo Ren and Rey romance sounds pretty low, but I just get this feeling that something will happen there. It’s only recently I’ve started to feel it.

          • August 11, 2017 at 4:30 am

            It isn’t unheard of for a woman to fall for a bad boy she thinks she can change. It would need to be made crystal clear that Kylo regrets his actions and is struggling to break free of Snoke. Luke or Leia could potentially tell her something about him that changes how she feels towards him. Of course I’m not saying any of this is likely as nothing said in any of the interviews or trailer even hints at this. My guess is that their connection has more to do with the Force, not romance.

          • August 11, 2017 at 2:44 pm

            It would make an interesting story arc though.

    • August 11, 2017 at 4:41 am


  • August 10, 2017 at 1:53 am

    I think Finn is gonna be a lando backstabber in this one to try to save himself

    • August 10, 2017 at 7:35 pm

      More likely DJ

      • August 13, 2017 at 10:56 pm


  • August 10, 2017 at 2:23 am

    I mean yea, our hero Jedi is off training with a reclusive master while everyone else gets on with their lives; and they wind up in a luxurious space resort but as long as this one doesn’t have a large setpiece involving the cornered Resistance engaging a superior force of FO Walkers using only speeders on an open plain, then the dangers of a being an ESB ripoff are minimal.

    • August 10, 2017 at 11:52 am


    • August 10, 2017 at 2:28 pm

      Bespin was a luxurious space resort? I thought it was a gas mining city. And give me a break about similar vehicles used. Ground battles are obviously going to utilize similar vehicles. Get over it and stop trying to prejudge a movie you haven’t even seen yet.

      • August 10, 2017 at 3:14 pm

        🙂 I bet we’re gonna find out that Kylo is related to the Skywalkers

  • August 10, 2017 at 4:30 am

    Finn wanting to leave the FO. Let me be honest; Finn was my least favorite character in TFA. I love John Boyega and I have been a huge fan of his since Attack the Block. But really; I found his character really inconsistent and too much comedic relief. A shame because the concept he had was fantastic and his actual backstory in Before the Awakening is great.

    If anything, I can see Finn wanting to leave due to nearly dying from Kylo’s blade. But really, I do hope he has a strong reason for staying around and fighting. I mean yeah, Rose could be that individual. But perhaps wanting to figure out where he came from?

    Also, there is Phasma on his trail and given their “rivalry” with one another; that very much could be a solid way for Finn not to walk away from the plot. Something most writers should always ascribe to do. But then again, given how the NR was annihilated and the FO wanting to take over the galaxy; running away wouldn’t be so much of an option. If anything, it would delay the inevitable .

    Overall, fingers crossed as if there is anyone who I can trust with character writing it is RJ. 🙂

    • August 10, 2017 at 5:50 pm

      Yeah he’s out of options at this point. The entire F.O. would be on his tail after infiltrating and lowering the shield, he’s number 1 on their list.

  • August 10, 2017 at 6:51 pm

    I’m writing a scathing letter to Disney for this movie’s lack of….. (thumbs through directory)…uh… Polynesians

  • August 15, 2017 at 8:31 pm

    I would imagine Finn was already past the stage of thinking about running away. It is a major setback for his character if he is indeed still at that stage in the beginning of the movie.

  • August 17, 2017 at 8:55 pm

    Oh geez, I’m expecting rant videos from usual suspects, including one Star Wars fan I follow, about TLJ being a copy-paste of ESB like how they complained about TFA being retread of ANH.

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