Star Wars Weekly Buzz: Hayden Christensen to Attend Celebration Orlando + Full Schedule of the Event and More

This week on our Star Wars Weekly Buzz: Full Celebration Schedule; Hayden Christensen will make an appearance at Celebration for the first time since 2002. Why fans fell in love with K- 2SO; Disney’s film schedule through 2019; Colin Trevorrow talks Episode IX and more

 

 

This week we start with this cool announcement by the official Celebration site about the 40th Anniversary panel that will be held at the event. The biggest surprise is that we will see Hayden Christensen as one of the guests.

 

 

And here’s the official announcement from StarWars.com:

 

On Thursday, April 13, Star Wars Celebration Orlando will feature “40 Years of Star Wars,” a special panel gathering Star Wars creators and stars from across the saga’s history. Although many galactic-sized surprises are still being saved for the event, Lucasfilm is excited to announce some new panelists that are among the biggest names in Star Wars.

Hayden Christensen (Anakin Skywalker), star of Star Wars: Attack of the Clones and Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith, returns to Celebration for the first time since 2002. Christensen will also meet fans and sign autographs at the show.

He joins an impressive list of Star Wars greats at the panel, including: Kathleen Kennedy (Lucasfilm president), Dave Filoni (executive producer, Star Wars Rebels), Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker), Ian McDiarmid (the Emperor/Darth Sidious), Anthony Daniels (C-3PO), Peter Mayhew (Chewbacca), and Billy Dee Williams (Lando Calrissian).

 

 

 

Next we have Star Wars: Episode IX director Colin Trevorrow, briefly talking about the movie, pretty much saying nothing. (via MTV)

 

 

 

 

 

For the Love of Kaytoo

 

News.com.au caught up woth Alan Tudyk (Rogue One) to talk about why so many fans fell in love with a reprogrammed security droid named K2-SO.

“He was funny without being a comic character in a movie that was pretty dark,” Tudyk tells news.com.au. “The levity he brought was appreciated. He was involved in a lot of funny moments. “He wasn’t trying to be funny, he was just a funny character because he was so honest in moments that it was incongruous with what was happening.”

 

Tudyk recalled that the previous Star Wars droids that came before his character set the precedent for his characters (K2) personality.

“C3PO had so much emotion, he’s always at such a high pitch,” he says. “He’s always flustered or cross. So it gave me the freedom to be that as well in [certain] moments. It definitely came across when [spoiler alert] he was dying. His goodbyes were very heartfelt.

 

 

 

Tudyk also mentioned that he met Star Wars legend, the late Carrie Fisher in 2013 during an Australia convention.

“I got to know her for two weeks,” he remembers. “We had a blast. I’m so happy now that I did get to have that time with her. She was so sassy, I loved her personality.”

 

We really miss her….

 

 

 

Disney’s schedule until 2019 shown at CinemaCon.

At Cinemacon 2017 in Las Vegas, Walt Disney Pictures revealed its upcoming schedule of releases from 2017 through 2019.
The schedule includes several new films plus a look at the future Lucasfilm Star Wars franchise slate.

 

 

CinemaCon 2107 attendees have seen a brief footage from Star Wars: The Last Jedi, as we told you a few days ago.

 

Attendees of CinemaCon 2017 were treated to some footage of Star Wars: The Last Jedi. The clip was apparently shorter than the sizzle reel that was seen a few weeks back. However, some fans described what sounds like Rey training to become a proper Jedi. Apparently that includes igniting a lightsaber, swinging it, and elevating some small rocks.

 

 

 

 

StarWars.com announces the Puzzle Droids Mobile Game.

 

 

Disney and Lucasfilm announced that attendees for this years Star Wars Celebration will be the first to experience an all-new Star Wars: Puzzle Droids game. The game will be featured on the show room floor and give fans a chance to tap into the holographic memory bank of BB-8, experiencing classic scenes and untold stories from the famous droid’s perspective, while playing through rewarding puzzle gameplay.

Stay tuned to StarWars.com for more on Star Wars: Puzzle Droids!

Pre-registration is now open for Google Play!

 

 

 

 

Actor Paul Markham chats with DJ from Sci Fi Central about his most embarrassing on-set incident time while shooting his scenes for Return of the Jedi. Paul played the Imperial Officer dressed in black standing in line next to the Stormtrooper.

 

 

 

Spencer Brinkerhoff from Studios B3 talks with official Star Wars Celebration artist Lin Zy about symbolism, Japanese culture, and the path of Ahsoka Tano.
Check it out!

 

 

 

 

Here is your Star Wars Celebration FULL schedule for 2017 Orlando.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marvel Star Wars Remaster of the ESB adaptation has differences from the original release.

 


Pablo and Andi @ Lucasfilm/ILM employee Trivia Night

 

 

 

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119 thoughts on “Star Wars Weekly Buzz: Hayden Christensen to Attend Celebration Orlando + Full Schedule of the Event and More

  • April 1, 2017 at 1:17 am
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    i want a palpatine&vader standalone film

    • April 1, 2017 at 1:44 am
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      Yes, one after Episode 3 when Vader is Jedi hunting would be fantastic…

      • April 1, 2017 at 4:06 am
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        there is a comic about that its called the purge, a movie about that would be awesome

      • April 1, 2017 at 4:09 am
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        I would like a film where they go trout fishing and have a picnic afterwards….with wookie cookies.

        • April 1, 2017 at 9:27 am
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          *wookieookiees*

      • April 1, 2017 at 5:06 am
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        I think that would be a great idea for a film.
        I think having Shaak Ti be the main enemy to Vader, Being one of the last of the Jedi council she would give a challenge to Vader (unlike how he dealt with kanan and ezra).
        I know they have said “she was stabbed while meditating by anakin” but I dont buy it at all.
        We know in a holocron message to Luke in the Star Wars comic, that she said “dont lets the jedi die today”. So its clear she was aware of the Purge and not in a trance. I dont buy her recording the message and then meditating while innocent younglings are slaughtered.
        By having her in a film like this, it would be a simple way of fixing this one flaw in the Star Wars canon that ive seen

        • April 1, 2017 at 6:32 am
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          Shaak Ti is shown being shanked by a blue saber in Yoda’s vision in the (canon) Clone Wars episode “Voices,” which aligns with one of the two deleted death scenes from RotS. Now, you can say “always in motion is the future” and “no body, no death,” and your example from the Star Wars comic doesn’t mean anything, because we don’t know when she sent that message.

          http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/8/80/Shaak_Ti_Death_TCW_Destiny.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20160509200013

          • April 1, 2017 at 10:08 pm
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            The vision was not an accurate representation of the future (we saw Mace leading an army of jedi against clones; which did not happen cleary).
            Futhermore, (assuming anakin did kill her) it would not be condridicted if Vader killed.
            The point of the blue blade was to show to Yoda that the Jedi downfall (represented Shaak Tis death) was because of a Jedi betraying them. It doesnt need to be taken literraly as Shaak Tis death.

            We know she recorded the message during the Temple Raid during Order 66. “Dont let the Jedi Order die this day”. The problem is why would she record that and just sit there when innocent younglings are being slaughtered. Yes we could say “she is accepting death” but to a jedi it would be more prudent to save the lives of innocents.

        • April 1, 2017 at 9:27 am
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          Sorry, but canon source books have already confirmed that she got stabbed in the Temple, and TCW showed it. She was meditating because she was creating a holocron.

          • April 1, 2017 at 10:10 pm
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            The vision was not an accurate representation of the future (we saw Mace leading an army of jedi against clones; which did not happen cleary).
            Futhermore, (assuming anakin did kill her) it would not be condridicted if Vader killed.
            The point of the blue blade was to show to Yoda that the Jedi downfall (represented Shaak Tis death) was because of a Jedi betraying them. It doesnt need to be taken literraly as Shaak Tis death.

            We know she recorded the message during the Temple Raid during Order 66. “Dont let the Jedi Order die this day”. The problem is why would she record that and just sit there when innocent younglings are being slaughtered. Yes we could say “she is accepting death” but to a jedi it would be more prudent to save the lives of innocents.

            Additionally dont meditate to produce a holocron. She was catively redoing her message (as in talking to a camera) like Obwians message for the Jedi to stay away.

          • April 2, 2017 at 12:48 am
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            I understand that they have stated it is her canon death. But as Ive stated due to her recording a holocron. It does not line up in canon.
            She records the holocron message, then simply meditates while her fellow Jedi are slaughtered (including innocent younglings). Surely she would have aided the younglings, or at very least attempted to escape if there was no chance of defeating the clones.

            It also states she died in the Jedi Purge while meditating in the temple by Darth Vader . Not specifically order 66. She could have returned (obviously before Sidious moves in ). Additionally Darth Vader could be pre or post the suit.
            Perhaps, she is relentlessly hunted by him and decides to end her life in peace in the temple.

          • April 2, 2017 at 1:03 am
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            The temple would have already become The Imperial palace by then. Anyway, Shaak Ti could have been cut off from the younglings, or sent another Jedi to help them. We don’t know. What we DO know is that she was killed by Vader while meditating.

            Get over it.

          • April 2, 2017 at 1:29 am
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            Never

    • April 1, 2017 at 5:01 am
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      The book Lords of the Sith would have been a great standalone vader.
      I dont know if they would adapt it into film, considering it would conduse what is canon (the book or the film). But then again we have films and novels (both are canon) for TFA and R1.
      While I enjoy that everything is connectec (books, comics etc) Im worried they are “wasting” Vader in books and comics. Im not saying the stories are bad. Its just Vader has a limited lifespan in the star wars history (aprox 23 years). The majority of his time between IV and V has been used in his first comic series. And we now have a new comic series picking up write after ROTS.
      They are quickly running out of “Vader time” which could be used in films.

  • April 1, 2017 at 1:25 am
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    Anakin, Yoda and Obi-Wan/Ewan Mcgregor Force Ghosts in Episode 8 confirmed.

  • April 1, 2017 at 1:27 am
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    I LOVE to hear this sooo much!! Maybe Disney doesn’t like prequel trilogy, but they respect it, and they acknowledge good parts from PT, and they respect what PT gave us to expand the universe. Now I am 100% convinced that Hayden will have role as Vader/Anakin force ghost in episode 8 or 9, maybe both. It would be great connection to all 3 trilogies

    • April 1, 2017 at 1:32 am
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      “Maybe Disney doesn’t like prequel trilogy,” this is proof that this isn’t true.

      • April 1, 2017 at 8:05 pm
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        Whatever Deadly. We all know Disney just wants to put more pretty Princesses in Star Wars for girls and to make the world forget the Prequels ever existed.

        I mean, they’re going to retcon them right out of existence with some sort of time anomaly in a future Star Wars story installment.

        A time anomaly created by Snoke, who is actually from the Marvel Universe. This is just an excuse to tie in the two franchises and make an Avengers/New Jedi Order movie and EXPLOIT THE FANS OF ALL OF OUR MONEY.

        Which means, obviously, Red Skull is Snoke and the First Order is Hydra Reborn.

    • April 1, 2017 at 2:55 am
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      Agree, Hayden’s Anakin was an important part of Star Wars.

    • April 1, 2017 at 5:12 am
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      I dont think him being a force ghost would make sense. If he was able to be a force ghost surely he would appear to Kylo and explain the path he has chosen is wrong.
      I personally like the idea that Rey is anakin reincarnated. Once again the universe is unbalanced (snoke/firstorder) so the Chosen one is reborn in the form of Rey.
      That would explain why Anakin hasnt appeared to Luke.
      I suppose Hayden could appear to Rey, similar to Avatar the last airbender; communing with your former life.

      • April 1, 2017 at 6:18 am
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        Wait…what?!? Have you forgotten Anakin at the end of Return of the Jedi? They also considered having an Anakin/Vader hybrid Force ghost appear in The Force Awakens. I honestly have no idea what you’re on about.

        • April 1, 2017 at 10:00 pm
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          Yes Anakin was a ghost at the end of the OT, when balance was brought to the universe.
          30 years on. The universe is again unbalanced. Thus requires the Chosen One to retake physical form.
          Thus, his spirit could be reincarnated as Rey.
          This would explain why Anakins spirit hasnt contacted Kylo Ren to stop him from following Vaders path.
          (Much of the anakin/vader hybrid art was simply to pitch ideas for TFA; it says in the art book it wasnt to be take literally)

          • April 2, 2017 at 1:07 pm
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            Rey’s observation that Kylo Ren is afraid he will “never be as strong as Darth Vader” would indeed take on a new depth and irony if in a sense Rey IS the redeemed Vader, and Kylo indeed fails to break his prisoner.

      • April 1, 2017 at 3:25 pm
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        Um, no…

  • April 1, 2017 at 1:51 am
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    Holy Moly! Hayden!
    Awesome!

  • April 1, 2017 at 2:16 am
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    Before you criticize Hayden, you should walk a mile in his shoes.
    That way, when you criticize him, you’re a mile away and you have his
    shoes.

    • April 1, 2017 at 4:32 am
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      I like him, he’s been good in other movies

      • April 1, 2017 at 5:21 am
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        and I like snorting bath salts, but I understand it’s not for everyone.

  • April 1, 2017 at 2:16 am
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    HAYDEN!

  • April 1, 2017 at 3:34 am
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    Glad Hayden got the invite !

  • April 1, 2017 at 4:16 am
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    If Hayden being there is an April Fools’ joke, then it’s a terrible one.

    – Pomojema

  • April 1, 2017 at 5:07 am
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    YES! Thanks for attending Hayden..that’s a good sign I really hope he’s in Episode VIII or make a fucking clone wars Anthology film while they’re all still young!!!!

  • April 1, 2017 at 5:07 am
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    Yay, Hayden. I’m so happy.

    yay.

    • April 1, 2017 at 6:51 am
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      As much as I hate the prequels, it’s good to see Hayden back.

      • April 1, 2017 at 3:23 pm
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        Ditto here – I’d love to see him interact w/ Luke as a Force Ghost…

  • April 1, 2017 at 6:00 am
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    The “Disney HATES the Prequels” conspiracy theorists heads are spinning. I love it.

  • April 1, 2017 at 6:12 am
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    I’m glad to see Hayden Christensen’s getting a spot at SWC. Like the job he did or not, he’s forever a huge part of Star Wars.

  • April 1, 2017 at 6:14 am
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    Has there been any news about a possible release of the unaltered OT films?

    • April 1, 2017 at 7:02 am
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      I heard a 1000 times it will never happen.

      • April 1, 2017 at 7:12 am
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        I hoped they would do it for the 40 year anniversary. And if they were going to do it, it would be at SWC in 2 weeks.

  • April 1, 2017 at 6:52 am
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    I Just heard A Star Wars Adventure in a R1 commercial which sounds a little cheesy but is much better than the YA sounding A Star Wars Story.

    • April 1, 2017 at 7:53 am
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      ROS is the best of all Trilogies.

      • April 1, 2017 at 8:16 am
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        It’s the best of the prequels, and that ain’t saying much.

        • April 1, 2017 at 11:02 am
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          Of all the shit (Prequels), ROTS stinks the least. It’s still shit.

        • April 1, 2017 at 8:47 pm
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          Anyone who can shit on the Ray Harryhausen-esque arena sequence in AotC has no soul though.

          • April 3, 2017 at 2:53 am
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            No, so many more things in that movie to shit on. I prefer to shit on the embarrassingly bad love story with its bargain bin romance novel dialogue. Or the fact that Anakin and Padme have about as much chemistry as two planks of wood facing each other. Or the total lack of reasoning in Padme’s marrying Anakin. Or ruining Yoda by turning him into a ridiculous Sonic the Hedgehog CGI monstrosity.

      • April 1, 2017 at 8:28 am
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        That was my first time seeing a Star Wars movie in the theater. 🙂

      • April 1, 2017 at 7:00 pm
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        As some who doesn’t hate the prequels, I’d easily rate ROS as the best of them. Not my personal favourite overall, but it’s always good to see someone who appreciates it more than I do.

        • April 2, 2017 at 5:59 am
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          There’s just so much greatness in that Film, the opening battle, the execution of order 66, the fight on Mustafar.
          Shoot I remember being in a Barnes n’ Nobles in 1996 and reading in some Star Wars encyclopedia that Vader used to be a man and was injured fighting Obiwan on a Volcano. it blew my 8 year old mind.

          I could not believe it and to see that pulled off on the screens my god. Its epic, especially if you’ve seen the Clone Wars.

  • April 1, 2017 at 8:04 am
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    The actors were never the problem with the PT. I don’t blame them for wooden performances. Remember when a couple of people said Daisy was a little stiff when she got to the set? JJ worked with her and did a couple of takes and finally talked to her. Got her to chill out. Paid off.

    That’s all these guys needed. I’ve seen Hayden in other movies do just fine. I don’t hate anyone relating to the PT. Especially Ahmed Best. The guy seems incredibly nice.

    • April 1, 2017 at 8:16 am
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      Sir Lawrence Olivier and Daniel Day Lewis couldn’t make those garbage scripts sound good. And Lucas has no concept of what good acting is to begin with or how to help actors craft convincing performances.

      • April 1, 2017 at 8:18 am
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        Well I was trying to be nice… but yes. I do blame George for most of it. I’ve even forgiven him a bit for the PT as a whole. Ok so he made 3 bad movies. Big deal.

        What I can’t forgive is the damaging of the OT.

      • April 1, 2017 at 8:20 pm
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        Just looking at his earlier work, that is patently not true. I mean, it’s a cool story, brah, but it’s not what happened on the prequels.

        • April 3, 2017 at 2:56 am
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          Then what the hell did happen on the prequels, cause somebody sure didn’t know what the hell they were doing. If the producer/director who controls every aspect of the movie is not to blame, then who is?

          • April 3, 2017 at 8:13 am
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            Exactly. Lucas controlled almost every aspect of the prequels. It’s his fault through and through.

    • April 1, 2017 at 1:54 pm
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      What you say is I believe the general consensus, however I still believe he was a miscast. Regardless of his performance and script, he never for a second did ever convince me he’ll eventually become Darth Vader…

      • April 1, 2017 at 3:12 pm
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        But isn’t Darth Vader really good at fixing things?

        • April 1, 2017 at 3:44 pm
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          Yeah…
          And he also happens to be the one that built C3PO (?)
          That was the moment I knew Lucas went into fanfiction land with the PT.

          • April 1, 2017 at 4:06 pm
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            I actually didn’t mind that so much. It adds some dark irony when 3PO says, “Thank the maker”.

          • April 2, 2017 at 12:55 am
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            It would have been okay, except that Anakin supposedly built him to help his mother around the house, and yet, 3PO CAN’T BEND HIS ARMS.

          • April 2, 2017 at 3:35 am
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            True, lol!

          • April 2, 2017 at 6:13 am
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            The same way Max Rebo can play the keyboard and can’t move his fingers or whatever he had…

          • April 2, 2017 at 8:42 pm
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            Except Max Rebo isn’t a major character who’s supposed to connect the trilogies to each other. The only reason he can’t move his finger sis because he’s a puppet. 3PO can’t bend his arms because he was literally built with bars that stop them from doing so. There’s not retconning that away. Lucas was dumb to overlook that.

          • April 3, 2017 at 3:33 am
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            I don’t like you, but that was funny.

          • April 2, 2017 at 6:12 am
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            Agree

      • April 1, 2017 at 8:15 pm
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        That’s not casting, that’s writing.

        • April 1, 2017 at 10:16 pm
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          It’s cast, because the actor lacks the necessary attributes. Regardless of writing, Hayden C. could never play a young Vader authentically.
          He lacks the look, confidence and all the other above mentioned.

          • April 2, 2017 at 1:36 am
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            Hayden = NOT. MY. VADER.

      • April 1, 2017 at 8:50 pm
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        Well I agree with everything you just said but that still largely points to the terrible script/plotting of the character. None of the things that happen seem to shape the super villain we all know and… um love? This has been endless debated though. I doubt we’ll shine any new light on it.

        • April 2, 2017 at 2:55 am
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          Counterpoint: anakin is essentially a reflection of Luke if Luke hadn’t had such a sheltered life. Hell in terms of bratiness, anakin II – Luke IV.

          Think about it: luke > sheltered, family environment til he was 18. Family killed but had a solid new family base to latch on to. Protected from Vader secret and his importance for many years, and was sheltered from Vader and Emperor as long as possible.

          Anakin > a slave, minimal family, thrust into the Jedi order at an abnormal age, with the chosen one prophesy, essentially burdening him and making him an outcast in the order. Then was groomed by an evil dictator in disguise.

          Anakin as an idea is bold and interesting (way better than Luke-as-a-girl “Rey”.) I’m glad George actually tried to do something different rather than turn in the same old “character types (aka the force awakens a new hope again)”.

          The issues are more direction/performance based. Not character.

          • April 2, 2017 at 1:14 pm
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            Anakin is in no way a reflection of Luke (except for maybe the backstory if you really overanalyse it high school literature class style).

            Anakin was selfish traitor who betrayed the Jedi order, immidately violated the Jedi code on the first hot chick, had serious personality and anger issues etc.

            Luke was an altruistic, loyal hero who never hesitated if his friends were in danger.

            The issues are casting, writing, performance and a very fundamental misunderstanding of the OT.

          • April 2, 2017 at 5:11 pm
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            Cool, that’s an opinion, not a fact. At the end of the day, you’ve got an opinion based on your experience and interpretation of the OT. At the end of the day, Mr Lucas was the creator, and therefore, his design of the character IS THE DEFINITIVE VERSION. There’s no misinterpretation, just fanboys like us thrusting out our opinions.

            Yes, I was clearly talking about anakin and Luke’s backstories.

            At the end of the day, a bunch of you guys think that the character is supposed to be a certain way based of of your interpretation of like 2 or 3 paragraphs of dialogue in the OT. If Anakin had been portrayed as Luke except he picked evil”, like most OT fans hoped/expected, it would have been lazy and predictable.

            He might of botched it due to his execution in scripting and directing, but I appreciated the fact that Anakin was a fucked and flawed guy.

            Strongly but respectfully disagree with your counter argument too. Yes Anakin betrayed the order and his ideals, but despite everyone’s attempts to completely write off the films, Anakin DID have motivations and reasons.

            Luke and Anakin literally start off in almost the same position (on Tattooine) but with very important differences: sheltered vs slave. One went through the trilogy with friends, a family unit and being protected from the galaxy’s evils for a long time. The other was thrust into the middle of the Jedi order, a mistrusted outcast with the burdens of the galaxy on his shoulders, along with the most evil dude in the galaxy whispering into his ear.

            Yes, Luke becomes a brace hero always looking out for his friends, whilst Anakin is a selfish brat. But that’s the point. To not see these similarities and differences is to misunderstand the 6 films. TBT most OT fans don’t like it because they had a version of what Vader should be like before they saw the prequels.

            THIS IS A DEFENCE OF THE CHARACTER. NOT THE WRITING, ACTING OR DIRECTION.

          • April 2, 2017 at 11:19 pm
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            I’m not sure which part of my comment wasn’t a fact, I usually avoid any subjectivity on this forum. There is the Cantina for that part. In fact, even you just confirmed what I’ve said…

            Geroge Lucas being the sole creator with a unique and single vision is the most common misconception in the fandom. Star Wars (ANH) was created by various artist who all put their own vision into the production. As you can see yourself by reading the original “The Adventures of Luke Starkiller” that it has little to nothing to do with the final movie. GL just happens to be the one that got the most credit for. But even then, GL’s vision had constantly changed. He has been contradicting himself since the 80s.
            Here you go, an article from the 80s stating that everyone can become a jedi via training (thus no midichlorians) and that Yoda isn’t a warrior that fights with a lightsaber.
            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/star-wars-prequels-return-of-the-jedi_n_3313793.html
            Thus, the allegation that the PT derives from a fundamental misunderstanding of the OT (a work of multiple people) is not necessarily incorrect.

            “At the end of the day, a bunch of you guys think that the character is supposed to be a certain way”
            Absolutely not. First of all, my introduction to Star Wars was actually TPM, in 1999.
            And I couldn’t care less of how Anakin was presented, as long as the portrayal is at least a tiny bit coherent with the OT, which the PT Anakin was not. There is nothing in common between OT Vader and PT Anakin and that is the problem. To pick your example, even if Anakin was portrayed like an evil Luke,- but just like Hayden’s character-, if nothing would’ve resembled Vader, it still would’ve been bad imo.

            “it would have been lazy and predictable.”
            Predictability when talking about prequels is different than “regular” predictability. All prequel stories are predictable on a certain level. Finding the balance between coherence and originality with prequel writing is very hard. And the PT failed. The PT is a backstory. What Anakin’s tale needed to be is to tell a story of a tragical fall of a hero (which the PT isn’t) who resembles Vader at least a tiny bit to feel the connection between the trilogies (which the PT absolutely failed to do as well). Aside from these two criterias he could’ve anything. Flawed, fucked up, loyal, liar, honest, transgender or anything else. The problem with Anakin isn’t that he’s “fucked up”.

            “Anakin DID have motivations and reasons”
            Noone said he didn’t and that is not the problem. You completely misunderstood what I was talking about.

            The rest of your points are all about Luke being the same as Anakin, which isn’t even relevant. As I said the problem with Anakin’s characterisation is not the presence or lack of similarity. However, your counterpoints are still off imo.
            All the similarities you list are just very forced HS literature class-style interpretations of the BACKSTORIES.
            The characters themselves (their deeds and attributes) share nothing in common.
            What you’re basically trying to say is that they have a similar initial point (which was obviously the intention of TPM), but later they are still similar because they are exactly the opposite (?)

            Though I’d still say what you say is off.
            Anakin also had a sheltered upbringing. Even though he was theoretically a “slave”, as presented by TPM he actually had a pretty good life. He had a loving mother (who’s job was apparently washing dishes at home ???), a flat with his own room, enough money and free time to build robots and podracers. He had friends (remember Kitster for instance). He was well fed and well combed and based on the movie I’d say he was pretty much a balanced and happy kid. Or at least he actually had a better life than half of Earth’s population. Later on he even had a father figure (Obi-wan) and the opportunity to become a jedi (which is I believe a well respected position in the Republic). Sadly we didn’t get to see the training and how the whole jedi/chosen one stuff affected his life, but imo he had a better and more exciting early life than Luke and should’ve been grateful for the opportunities an not become a fckin traitor.

          • April 3, 2017 at 6:46 am
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            Cool, i don’t want to get into all of this too much, we’re obviously not gonna agree, and there is nothing wrong with respectfully disagreeing.

            A few small things though…

            Every major film done for more than $20K ever is a group of artists working on a project under the vision of an artist-in-charge. Anyone who gives George sole credit has no idea how films are made. However, George was the shepherd that directed the film into the finished result. In the end, anything that you liked about the OT existed because either George came up with it OR George green-lit it into the film. Yes, George’s mind changed a thousand times (most films ever made are fluid from creation to execution) but that is part of the process.

            Backstories are characters prior history. Yes what i have spoken about includes backstory, but it also includes the parallels shown in the STORY, not backstory, in I and II vs IV and V. Thus your “very forced HS literature class-style interpretations of the BACKSTORIES” argument isn’t as irrelevant as you suggest. It is a fundamental part of the story and parellels in 3-to-4 star wars film STORIES. Not backstories.

            At the end of the day, you’re making assumptions on how Vader should have been portrayed. People change massively between their early twenties and early forties. Consider what Anakin goes through in the third act of ROTS, it makes sense that his character would change massively in the next 19 years. Especially with the idea that Sith Lords are completely different people to who their former selves are. Anakin was who Vader was, like a different entity, swallowing Anakin up for two decades until the power of Luke’s love and near death gave Anakin the strength to burst through the Vader-Sith evil and take control.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MKuWb9KeRI

            Lets just agree to disagree. There’s no real point trying to change each others minds, im sure we’ve both gone back and forth hundreds of times with others before.

          • April 5, 2017 at 12:00 am
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            I agree to disagree, I’ve gone through this (and more) a hundred times already.
            I find it hard to understand why the PT fanboys like you defend Hayden C.’s portrayal of Vader though. As even you agree, there is absolutely no similarity between Vader and Anakin… Why is this alright?
            A prequel to a character is entirely different from its latter form, but it’s alright because people change (even though an unstable emo like Anakin would never become anything like the alpha Vader)?
            Imo a prequel character should at least resemble its latter form…
            If there is no connection, what is the point?

            Anakin would be alright I guess if it wouldn’t be a prequel-story. But it is and that is why it isn’t alright.
            Anakin and Luke do not need parallel each other, and even if they do, it absolutely does not matter at all, aside from a brief mention. Sure, it might be interesting, but from the story’s perspective, it’s absolutely irrelevant, aside from maybe the “It’s destiny” chlisé. It does not make the story better or more. It just makes it forced.
            What Anakin needs to parallel at least to a certain degree is Vader.

            “Anyone who gives George sole credit has no idea how films are made.”
            Yes it is. However, this contradicts with this:
            “Mr Lucas was the creator, and therefore, his design of the character IS THE DEFINITIVE VERSION.”

            If there were many artists who put their vision into SW, than Lucas’s version is not the definitive one. ESPECIALLY considering how his vision constantly changed.
            And that is why I refuse to accept most of the PT.

          • April 5, 2017 at 1:44 am
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            2 small things:

            I’m defending the idea of Anakins character, not its execution… I honestly believe that had the prequels been better made films that didn’t fall short in terms of directing and writing, then no one would really care about this. Hayden Christensen doesn’t do it for me either. That’s not what I’m defending.
            2. I’m not giving George sole credit or taking away from your point about multiple directors, what I’m saying is that whilst the films were a combination of the work and skills of many artists , the director is the funnel that all the good and bad stuff must pass. He is the one that plays amazing or shit work, he is the one who stops great or shit work from passing. In Star Wars case, he was the consistent “dictator” of sorts, so yes, if it is on screen at the end of post production, it is a George Lucas sanctioned definitive version, not a misinterpretation.

          • April 5, 2017 at 2:31 pm
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            Imo anyone that puts any PT movie above TFA is a PT faboy on a certain level. I might understand ep III, which for some reason many people like (the most overrated big budget bad movie of all time if you ask me), but epsiode I?! The one which literally changed and destroyed SW forever and put the saga from the highest quality to a low-mediocre action franchise?
            Just imagine if JJ would’ve put midichlorians or Jar- jar level crap into ep VII… Fans and you would be scuffing keyboards after keyboards on how he destroyed SW and how it’s the worst thing ever made.
            Lucas got aways way too much because he’s the original creator.
            No offense btw.

            I still don’t understand why Anakin has to parallel Luke in any ways and why is it a good idea. Even if Stanley Kubrick himself directed the PT, this idea still wouldn’t make the story any better or more imo… Yeah, it might be interesting to mention, but nothing really else… It would feel incredibly forced and way too fanfiction-ish imo. Like that Ring-Theory. “Things parallel each other”, “everything is destiny”…
            Why not just make a good movie with interesting characters, which feel fresh and realistic (at least in idea)? Not this parallel-destiny, everything must come to a circle type of storytelling.
            Lucas’s idea of how “SW is poetry where everything rhymes” is nothing really else than just a callsign of how he ran out of original ideas imo… Sure, some people like this kind of stuff, but I prefer storytelling which feels more natural.

            I don’t think greenlightning ideas would make you a “consistent dictator” (especially considering how Lucas wasn’t consistent at all).
            During the OT Lucas was just a guy who was lucky enough to be working with very talented people. ANH for instance was saved by the editing table.
            Some even say he wasn’t even the one that greenlit most of the (good) ideas, but the producer Gary Kurtz.
            The only time he was indeed a “consistent dictator” was with the PT.
            In that case he indeed greenlit all of the ideas.
            But not necessarily with the OT (especially not with ANH). He didn’t have the power and ego yet back then.

      • April 2, 2017 at 1:35 am
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        PREACH DAVIS — You NAILED IT RIGHT THERE. NAILED IT!

        • April 2, 2017 at 9:27 am
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          If you look down to the left side of your keyboard you will see the letter “A”. If you look even further to the left there is a button called capslock. Push it once, that should fix your problem.

      • April 2, 2017 at 6:11 am
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        Vader wasn’t the leader type in the OT. He was bossed around by both Palpatine and Grand Moff Tarkin.

        • April 2, 2017 at 1:04 pm
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          I know this might be suprising, but subordinates can still be very definite leader types.

          Are you seriously arguing that Vader wasn’t a leader type?
          Time to rewatch the OT, then.

        • April 3, 2017 at 3:32 am
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          Ignore the fact that he commanded the Imperial Fleet from the bridge of the Executor and was tasked with hunting down and destroying the Rebel Alliance as the task force commander.

          Oh wait, you already did.

      • April 2, 2017 at 9:22 am
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        Anakin and VAder are devinitely different characters with different personalities but then again look at how people change in real life. I don’t think that my dad in his mid fifties is the same he was when he was 25. In addition to that Anakin and Vader look completely differetn. If you had seen a burnt Anakin for the full length of the movie you would probably associate Anakin a lot more with Vader than you do now.

        • April 2, 2017 at 1:01 pm
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          I know, I know people can fundamentally change and blah blah. I heard the same illogical mantra for years now.

          RIP BobRoss though.

  • April 1, 2017 at 11:02 am
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    I’m OVERJOYED that Hayden is appearing at Celebration because this CONFIRMS he is ****NOT**** in Episode 8 ! 🙂 There is no way they would SPOIL that if he was indeed in the film. GO HAYDEN — Keep doing Conventions buddy — and stay AWAY from the Films because you are a BAD BAD BAD memory.

    • April 1, 2017 at 5:23 pm
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      How does this even make sense? Going by your logic Mark Hamill isn’t in VIII either…….

      • April 2, 2017 at 1:26 am
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        Mark Hamill isn’t in Ep VIII? How did that happen? 😉

      • April 2, 2017 at 1:39 am
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        Um wrong. Mark Hamill is listed on the official CAST of Episode 8. Hayden is NOT listed on the cast. If he were going to be a “shock surprise moment” — he would not be appearing at Celebration — there is no way they would spoil that. I’m HAPPY he’s appearing at the Convention b/c I would vomit in the Theater if he came on the screen. Fortunately NOT going to happen — mark my words and I’ll be back to GLOAT in December.

        • April 2, 2017 at 9:19 am
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          Frank Oz isn’t listed on the cast but I think we’d all be surprised if he weren’t in the film. He was interviewed and he neither confirmed nor denied his presence. Going to a convention doesn’t correlate to being in a film (although I would say it leans the odds more in favor of Hayden appearing). Your argument against him doesn’t really make any sense and isn’t really an argument which I can respect because you just don’t like him. But there aren’t really any facts to it. Some of the greatest actors have been in bad films and some of the worst actors have been in the best. He’s a bad memory to you not because the PT was a sound series and he lowered their quality. There were many factors contributing to the way the PT came out, even you can deny it. I’m not picking a side on this argument, but I’m fairly certain you’d puke if you saw him come on screen not because he was trash, but because he is a direct link to the prequels which were films you disliked. And if you’ve seen them, you know its not a question of acting. If you haven’t, look at the special behind the scenes features. The evidence of what made them not so beloved by fans such as yourself is there. So your real qualm is with anything that reminds you of the PT which should imply that you’d puke seeing anything that reminds you of it such as Ewan McGregor. But it’s all about what you feel and that’s great. Except adding the gluting part at the end takes you from being a person voicing an honest opinion to a nerf herder so don’t be surprised to get hostile responses from others.

        • April 2, 2017 at 10:28 am
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          If you had explained the cast listing before and not gone on ranting you would of made more sense. Your original post is a rant, pure and simple, let go of your anger and get a life. Gloat all you like in December, no one will be listening..

        • April 2, 2017 at 6:15 pm
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          “Fortunately NOT going to happen — mark my words and I’ll be back to GLOAT in December.”

          So…you’re going away until December?

          Seriously, Hayden appearing in any future Star Wars projects is just speculation at this point. Star Wars fan speculate, talk about what-if scenarios, and make predictions that sometimes come true, sometimes don’t. I don’t Hayden will appear in E8, but it’s not as though Lucasfilm hasn’t already flirted with the idea.

          So…you really have nothing to gloat about either way.

    • April 2, 2017 at 9:15 am
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      He hasn’t attended any conventions for almost 15 years. So his usual pattern is not going to Star Wars conventions. The fact that you are interpreting his change of mind as a confirmation that he is now LESS involved in Star Wars is highly illogical.

  • April 1, 2017 at 1:08 pm
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    He did good , i think- better than those silly mavel movies and batman movies-

    Remember -your child will be as good as you taught him/her

    🙂 i will be as you taught me to be (Gladiator)

  • April 1, 2017 at 1:48 pm
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    Great news. I hope Ewan will be there too…

  • April 1, 2017 at 2:20 pm
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    All I want is a live-action Clone Wars movie with HC, EMcG, and whomever to play Ahsoka.

    • April 2, 2017 at 12:51 am
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      Siege of Mandalore.

  • April 1, 2017 at 4:14 pm
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    Nooooooo!

    • April 1, 2017 at 6:39 pm
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      What?

  • April 1, 2017 at 8:50 pm
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    I just really hope that despite Haden’s performance there aren’t a bunch of jerks that boo him when he’s on stage. I think it’s so awesome he’s showing up and would love to see what he’s been thinking about star wars all this time

    • April 1, 2017 at 10:32 pm
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      I doubt that will happen. I mean, I know a lot of folks don’t care for Hayden’s Anakin portrayal (I’m not particularly fond of it), but that sort of brazen behavior is more likely to be found in anonymous Internet trolling rather than someone attending a Celebration in person.

      • April 2, 2017 at 6:09 pm
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        Nah. That guy’s not going to Celebration so the talk of what he would do is just hot air.

  • April 2, 2017 at 2:52 am
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    If I were at Celebration, I would personally start the “YOU SUCK” chant when he comes out.

    • April 2, 2017 at 7:38 am
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      So you’d be disrepectful to the event, the fans, and everyone that came there to, umm, celebrate Starwars.

      Good thing you’re not going then!

      • April 2, 2017 at 6:08 pm
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        Eh. He wouldn’t do it, even if he were at Celebration. People tend to be a lot more brazen online.

    • April 2, 2017 at 9:08 am
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      He played in two films of arguably the most iconic movie franchise today. Most people know, that he did not write his own dialogue and did pretty well considered the script GL wrote for him. Btw why are you not invited to any celebrations?

    • April 2, 2017 at 6:07 pm
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      That would be a wonderful way to show your class and maturity.

  • April 2, 2017 at 5:59 am
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    I’am glad. Hayden was great as Anakin, It would be a nice to see him again.

  • April 3, 2017 at 2:58 am
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    He’s a capable actor, as is Portman. I find when they are at their worst in the films, the script all the sudden stops using contractions. IE, “This is something I can not do” as opposed to “I can’t do that”. Data talks like that in Star Trek to make him sound more robotic. It isn’t even consistent which makes It worse for me.

  • April 3, 2017 at 7:59 pm
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    Is anyone else baffled by the utter lack of trailer news ?

    • April 3, 2017 at 9:55 pm
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      Nah, I assume everyone has been under the same assumption that we’ll be hearing more about it by this weekend since it’s expected to drop next Friday morning at celebration. If we get to the start of celebration and still hear nothing then I may start to worry lol

  • April 5, 2017 at 5:02 pm
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    I’m not sure why are looking at this as an internet hate brawl. This conversation (along with pretty much every one one this forum) is a civilized debate. Or why are you constantly trying to “leave it”. I see you have only a couple comments with disqus. If you don’t like/can’ t debate why did you even register? Or comment about a pretty controversial topic which obviously will lead into replies… And why did you reply to replies then?

    To be clear, I don’t consider TFA a good movie at all. In fact, it’s on the bottom of my SW ranking. But that is because I don’t even consider the PT as Star Wars movies. I consider them carefully crafted products to sell merchandise and experiments on digital technology. There is little to no connection between the trilogies, but there are countless of glaring contradictions. Imo even if we entirely dismiss the PT, we don’t lose anything important, aside from a couple of bad memories. There are countless of much higher quality fanfiction on the internet for the SW prequels. One day we might finally get a quality reboot.

    The reason why I’m more forgiving towards the ST is because it isn’t an important backstory to a beloved saga, just a usual forced and unnecessary sequel to a (ruined) series.
    The PT had this amazing setup and great opportunity to deliver a fantastic story, but it failed on every single level and ruined the upcoming. It turned one of the best trilogies ever made into a mediocre CGI action crap.
    I don’t have too much expectation towards the ST, because just as Lucas himself said (until he contradicted himself ofc): “There is no story to tell”.
    There you go, that is the truth. Even the old EU was just a bunch of forced fanfiction. SW was about Luke and the overthrowing of a dictatorship by a bunch of rebels. Every conflict which comes directly after this will feel incredibly forced, even if the writing is very high quality. Just like the Yuuzhan Vong, Snoke is just a villain pulled out from nowhere. The Saw franchise comes into my mind for comparsion. The badguy died in the third one, but they kept writing “new” nonsensical Jigsaws to make money.
    This is why I’m looking forward to the anthology stories, or a story set far from the main episodes (like a KOTOR movie) much more.

    But even considering the above mentioned, TFA has a lots virtues. It turned back to the traditional way of filmmaking with real sets and locations, turned back from the New Age BS midichlorian crap to mistery again. And it is a film with sets and characters and acting in it, not an artificial CGI abomination with carboard cutout blankly staring “characters” with elementary school level acting and nonsensical writing.
    Anyone who can’t see this and rates ep I above TFA is not only not qualified to discuss SW, but not qualified to discuss movies in general imo.
    Again, no offense.

    • April 6, 2017 at 5:12 am
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      what i said is that “so instead of dissolving into an a traditional internet hate brawl, lets respectfully leave it.” please don’t twist my words. it currently isn’t, but in my experience, discussions like this usually go nowhere. You’re gonna bitch about how you hate the prequels, im gonna tell you how you’re wrong, rinse and repeat. Nothing is gonna change on other side lol. And this is my second disqus account, so settle down lad.

      But sure, here we go…

      At the end of the day, The PT is no where near as bad as you insinuate. And this is coming from someone who, lets remember, doesn’t adore them. I have issues with them. Lots of issues. But unfortunately an entire generation of fans came into the franchise with 20-ish years of history in TPM. They weren’t kids anymore, and the PT films were mostly geared towards kids.

      for example, you don’t consider the PT films as star wars films. i think you’re wrong. They are in universe, created by the filmmaker behind the OT (despite what you seem to be insinuating – it is hilarious how PT haters continue to try to credit the positives of star wars onto other filmmakers, like how Kasdan gets credit for screenwriting Empire, when he essentially script-doctored Leigh Brackett’s miserable script, which was based of GL’s story…) whilst crediting every single negative aspect of the franchise to GL.

      More than that, guess what? A lot of star wars fans like the prequels. If you delve onto the internet right now, yes there is a lot of hate for Hayden Christensen from the usual suspects, but guess what? There is a hella lot of people that are CELEBRATING him being at celebration.

      Cool, you see the prequels as a failure on every level. MOST star wars fans, even the ones who dislike the prequels, can find a fair few redeeming features. More than that, III is a good film. Not great, but good. You know that prequel hater John Campea that prequel haters love to champion? He initially gave it a 7/10 and called it, apart from Natalie Portman/Padme, quite a good film, with a breathless first 10 minutes.

      Do i think the prequels are well executed films? Not particulary. But there are a lot of symmetries, connections and links from the prequels to the OT. LOTS.

      oh and f your episode I hate mate. it has a lot of great things. the podrace, the duel of the fates, the music (in the top three soundtracks in star wars history), Palpatine, Ewan McGregor, Darth Maul. It had great ideas, great world-building, and most importantly originality mixed in with its symmetry.

      I’ll take any of that over the soulless checklist TFA. Cool, you seem to care that TFA got back to old school filmmaking. as a filmmaker, i like that. BUT IT MEANS NOTHING WITHOUT HAVING A STRONG STORY, A REASON FOR EXISTING. TFA is a love letter to butt-hurt fans of the OT, with only strong performances saving it’s shitty characters. Almost every character is well regarded purely because they remind you of characters you loved. “Oh Rey is like Luke. Man i love me some Luke. And strong women. Yay Rey!”

      “Maz Kanata? Man, reminds me of Yoda. I love me some Yoda. Yodas the best! Yay Maz!”

      Come on mate, its hard to knock George for making a ‘merchandising’ film in an era where Captain Phasma, BB8, and Maz “space pirate yoda’ kanata live.

      Anyone who defends a soulless remake that did more damage to star wars in 120 minutes then anything in the holiday special, or the prequels combined, and can’t see how one might defend a film that, whilst poorly executed, had some really fleshed out world-building and tons of great ideas, over it, absolutely should not be discussing films. One again no offence.

      • April 6, 2017 at 5:23 am
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        alright, im not gonna get into the midichlorian thing all that much, all ill say is this:

        1) a lot of people mis-interpret midi-chlorians as being the force, or explaining the force. The way i interpret it is that midi-chlorians exist in humans, and are how the force communicates with living matter.

        2) Midichlorians interestingly parallel human history/religion/science. Humans were religious, then science got advanced. They figured out a scientific basis for creation, and humanity. Of course, religious people either lost faith, or freaked out and declared war on scientists as blasphemous morons.

        3) in real life, the existence of science and creation doesn’t take away from religion, or the possibility of a God. it just shows a scientific explainable reason of how we came to be. Creation could be of a God’s making. Science doesn’t prove against a God existing, so why hate it?

        LEADING ON TO THIS…

        4) George Lucas always took things from film or historical influences, and adapted them into his story. MOST filmmakers do this to some degree.

        Midi-chlorians directly parallel this. They are a scientific explanation of how the force can communicate to people or things. Does it explain religion, or the force, or anything like that? No.

        Now i can understand the argument that you like the force being a mystical force of nature without explaination, but the reaction of butt-hurt fanboys like yourself to the introduction of science to explain something in universe (The Jedi were hanging out for many generations without Sith, you think they were sitting on their floaty chairs not trying to figure the force out?) that doesn’t actually explain the force, but explains how the force might have a relationship with people, is mind-boggling, and to be frank, parallels Christians/Muslims/Jews who refused to except that science and religion could co-exist.

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