UPDATE! Rian Johnson Gives a Brief Hint On the Meaning of The Last Jedi Title!
There were lots of theories and speculations posted online when it was revealed that the word “Jedi” is plural in the Episode VIII title. Now, director Rian Johnson himself gives another hint about the meaning of “The Last Jedi”.
Twitter member Nate Richter got a surprising gift for his birthday. Richter asked Johnson directly what the Episode VIII title means, and the director gave a brief clarification:
@ndrichter It means the final Jedi. Happy birthday!
— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) March 6, 2017
At first glance, it may seem that Johnson is just having a little bit of fun by altering the phrasing with what appears to be just a synonym for the word “Last”. However, when you think about it, it does actually provide some clarification on what “Last” could actually mean. In the context of the story, we know that Luke is most likely the last of the Jedi, meaning that he is the only one who remains of the ancient order. It has also been noted that this title could very well include Rey and possible unknown others in this group as we also know that the word “Jedi” in the title implies plurality.
Interestingly though, the word “Final” seems to imply something more. Not only is Luke the last Jedi in this moment, but he very well may be the last Jedi to ever be. If this is the case, what lies ahead in terms of Force users in the future of the GFFA? Will we move on to other sects and groups, leaving the ancient order as a mere memory of a bygone era? Recent entries into the Star Wars Canon have proven that there are myriad approaches to the Force besides the dogmatic views of the Sith and the Jedi (for example Kylo Ren and Snoke, who are not Sith). Where do we go from here? Are the Jedi gone for good? Will something new rise up from the ashes of the ancient order? Oh, the possibilities.
UPDATE!
After the big discussion that Rian Johnson’s tweet triggered yesterday, the director commented on the subject, clarifying that he used that word only as a synonym with no hidden or deeper meaning in it. At least that’s how we interpret his last (but not final) tweets. 🙂
.@Jid2021 Everyone knows that “last” and “final” are synonyms right? That they mean the exact same thing?
— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) March 8, 2017
@ResDolph nope, both words can have either meaning.
— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) March 8, 2017
So Johnson was definitely having fun with this guy. Synonyms don’t necessarily have the exact same meaning in all instances. Sometimes they give a completely different impression, but this is not the case here. Of course the question “what happens with the Jedi” after the sequel trilogy still stands, but we will just have to be more patient to find out.
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Knights of Ren vs Luthers of Luke, Squires of Skywalker, legions of Leia, Hounds of Han….
Warriors of the Whills?
Rey’s Raiders
Finn’s Fighters
Poe’s Pummelers
Luke’s Warmers?
Forgotten id posted this 19 days ago…Luke is/was the last Jedi and also the Skywalker to instigate final balance in the force….Luke has realised Grey is the way. All of the force should be embraced, he is making way for the new balanced none Jedi or Sith/Ren/night sister etc etc order….maybe needing a light force user allied with a dark side user(no need for a daddy killer redemption) to start to blend the new path….This order would then mean Luke was the last Jedi.
Just an old geezers ramblings
Grey doesn’t exist.
Close, there is no spoon
There is a spoon, but it ain’t grey
Ah, so we’re saying more of a Silver Jedi. I like it, very fitting for a more mature Skywalker
They’ll never do anything that ballsy. Far to many people love Jedi. Heck I’m not even that big of a fan of the Jedi… but I can’t imagine a Star Wars universe without them.
Agreed, I love the Jedi, but If LFL removes the Jedi for good, we’d be left with regular Sci Fi (blaster-using scoundrels) and the force would be like plain magic.
How? Are people not allowed to carry lightsabers just because they’re not Jedi? Ahsoka is a thing that exists…..
Oh I’m totally fine with new factions or grey Jedi whatever they want to call them. I just don’t see the Jedi being gone because of them. More like the Force user category is going to get more crowded.
Yeah, I agree.
Well, to me, at least, part of the mystique and perk of being a lightsaber user was being a Jedi, if anyone can do it, then where’s the magic in that? I hated Grievous and the fact that he can sort of use them. Turning it on to open up a Taun taun is one thing, dueling like a pro is something else. Then again, the new administration has already shown us that almost anyone without prior knowledge of the Force or Jedi martial arts skills can use them and defeat a trained dark lord, so there you go.
Kylo is not a trained dark lord. He is some dude who’s training is incomplete and is never referred to as a dark lord.
Like ever.
That was not the main point of my post, but whatever
I know it wasn’t the main point of your post. I just addressed the part that I wanted to address.
Oh Gerry. Darth Vader would like to speak to you.
“Your lack of imagination is disturbing.”
If we don’t get something new besides the Jedi, we have something worse than what you outlined.
The same damn thing for 9 movies.
People also love the sith and they are out. Change is hard but necessary for the future.
I still would argue they aren’t the same. Was Sith ever even mentioned in the OT? It took the PT for them to finally get a name to the broader public didn’t it? I mean basically what I’m saying is Jedi versus everything seems fine. Sith being gone… which still isn’t confirmed. JJ said they weren’t Sith. He also said Batch wasn’t Khan.
While I am more inclined to believe him this time I’m just saying he’s outright lied to us in the past.
They may not have been named but we were in love with Vader and palps from the start. But their order also died with them because of the prophecy. Now snoke is starting something new.
Right. Like I said… by and large I agree the Sith are out. The Jedi? Yeah I don’t see that ending.
We’ll see but remember this is coming from rian’s mouth not JJ.
for the record, Darth Vader Lord of the Sith was in the original script, so yeah…the sith were there though never mentioned on screen. Are they gone? Maybe, maybe not. What stops Kylo Ren from saying, screw this, gramps was the lord of the sith soooo now im calling myself a sith.
We’re literally sooooo early in the beginning of this ST still. Tons of books, comics, and still 8&9 coming. We have NO idea that there wont be sith again. That being said, we have no idea if the Jedi will be gone either. Anything is still fair game in my mind and i won’t be surprised if the Jedi are gone at the end of this ST. I’d rather they not be, but hey…i’m just one fan out of millions.
There had been no indication that the Sith are out
the sith are no where to be seen in the new canon so i’d disagree. now to be fair someone could come along and pick up their teachings again in the future, but thats unlikely to occur in the ST.
They have the momentum to create something new under Rey.
She’s already a very popular and loved character.
With all the last directors for the recent films (Edwards, JJ, and now Johnson) being Star Wars fans growing up, they know how important the Jedi are to the fan base. I think story is going to be centered around Luke, with flashback visions from TFA he was the FINAL Jedi from his academy.
I do want some Guardian of the Whills more on screen. #TheWait4Vlll
While I know that the Jedi have always been a real money-machine of a franchise asset, from a story perspective I can definitely see where moving beyond the Jedi concept could up the ante in some interesting ways.
The most obvious possibility, IMHO, is that in his solitude, Luke has identified what he feels to be a fatal flaw of some kind in the Jedi philosophy. I’m REALLY looking forward to his first scene in TLJ, because we really don’t know who he’s become at this point – is he just an old, grizzled version of the Luke we knew in the OT, or has his path through life changed him? His attitude toward the Jedi philosophy could end up being rather different than we expect.
Or, there’s also the possibility that the Force itself could have changed somehow between the OT and now. It seems to me like it’s more actively involved in influencing specific events than it was in the OT and the PT. The way it not only lured Rey down into the cellar of Maz’s castle using echoes of Rey’s own childhood cries, but then literally opened the door to the room where Luke’s old lightsaber was stored… that’s something new. And we don’t know whether that was an anomaly, or whether it foreshadows a major evolution in how the Force operates now. But IMHO, that could be tied to the Jedi coming to an end.
Tons of possibilities here – including the very real one that we are all just over-reading what Rian said. Like we do. ;^)
“Tons of possibilities here – including the very real one that we are all just over-reading what Rian said”
I think you hit the nail on the head! 🙂 And you know he’s sitting back laughing knowing the chaos he’s bringing to our world! 😛
Chaos, schmaos… to me it’s just good old Star Wars geek fun.
I still recall deadly serious conversations around the lunch table in junior high, circa 1982, as to whether Boba Fett might turn out to be Luke’s actual father.
T’was ever thus. ;^)
For sure he’s not going to be giving out any kind of spoilers before the movie is out. I imagine he wants to work again in the future.
Maybe the Jedi will adopt a Rule of Two. Wouldn’t that be a kick in the ass.
It would bring balance to the force. Which is exactly what Vader did when he killed all the Jedi except for Obi Wan & Yoda, which I guess on that basis is why Obi wan had to die when Luke became an apprentice.
I like it. New direction for the saga and a smart break with an idiology that has failed spectacularly two times in a row. I’d like to see Rey and Kylo form a new grey order in its place.
I wonder if this will lead to more use of the ‘ashla’ and ‘bogan’ terminology, like if Luke dropped the jedi term for that instead or any new factions pop up like the church of the force. So many interesting possibilities
Ep 8 = Luke is Last Jedi
Ep 9 = Rey becomes a NEW Jedi
Not rocket science here folks LOL
The fifty shadows … order
Even the Kylo torture chamber regards the red room.
Sad in one way…hopeful in others…Perhaps this leads to a couple of prospects:
1) No Jedi/Sith, and see repercussions where someone comes out after years of peace (This sounds WAY too much like Last Airbender for me)
2), More going backwards (Old Republic stories, history, heck Doctor Aphra even)
There are some possibilities here 🙂
While evolving the beliefs of the Jedi Order would be fine, getting rid of the Jedi from the Star Wars franchise would in the longterm kill IMO. Having different beliefs, for good or evil, is great and expands such a diverse setting. However, for a lot of people Star Wars is about the Jedi.
It simply wouldn’t be Star Wars without some crazy old wizard calling himself a Jedi.
I’m pretty sure it’s not that way, for multiple reasons:
1) Jedi are too important in the Star Wars universe to simply disappear. Except for Spin-offs, you can’t really have star wars without the most iconic order of warrior-monks that everyone know. Jedi is one of the first names that pop-up in a person’s mind when Star Wars is mentioned;
2) Noone from Lucasfilm will give away so easily such a big spoiler for a film not yet even advertised eith a trailer or anything. Probably it was just a word pun, or better, a misdirection.
3) I remember some rumors around the director of Episode IX and a kid actor and some sort of thing that involved the kid actor as a youngling of a new jedi order at the end of the film.
Opens the door for an episode 9 title of something referring to a “new order.”
I wouldn’t read too much into it. The Knights of Ren killed all the Jedi except for Luke, which means he is the final Jedi… until he isn’t. We know that people in the SW universe are born with Force powers; even if they had killed off Luke and eliminated all the Jedi, there isn’t anything to say that someone couldn’t restart the Jedi Order. I really think it was just Johnson having fun with them. 🙂
WOW, finally someone ACTUALLY SMART here on the thread !
“The Knights of Ren killed all the Jedi except for Luke, ”
Speculation.
I hope that Star Wars doesn’t move away from the Jedi and Sith conflict. I think it’s fun to have other groups of force users and ideas but the Jedi-Sith conflict is one of the defining/fundamental parts of the saga. I would hate to see the end of it.
I do – it’s stale & uninteresting. The Jedi are like a repressed religious order: “Um…yeah, we follow the Force, but don’t study the bad bits…” Limiting your vision makes your ignorance dangerous, especially if you fancy yourselves the guardians of peace & justice in a republic; in the end, the Jedi got what they deserved – and ‘paid the price for their lack of vision’…
Hopefully Luke (having been trained by the survivors of Order 66 & himself having lost Jedi Order 2.0 to an unruly nephew) sees the limits of the Jedi doctrine & sets his sights on a larger picture
Lots of folks act like they KNOW that Snoke is not a Sith…Where does this certainty come from? Snoke seems pretty Sith-like to me.
Also, I would be very surprised if Disney ended the Jedi. Too much Jedi money out there. And there have been Jedi in every SW movie. Jedi are integral to Star Wars.
Not every, although I guess Rougue one mentioned one and there a statue.
Also, Vader is always carrying a little chunk of Anakin within him…from a certain point of view.
I operate on the assumption that Anakin Skywalker was the chosen one and according to Lucas that means he is responsible for eradication of all Sith including the Emperor and himself. It would cheapen his sacrifice if there was another crinkly Sith Lord mastermind sitting on a throne somewhere else.
I think it could be done in a way as to not cheapen Vader’s sacrifice. In the end, I think that what Vader did, he did to save his son, not necessarily to end the Sith forever.
I know that but the extra level of coolness is that he fulfilled the prophecy by his selfless act of love. It makes that scene so much cooler with him being the Chosen One.
I don’t think it does: I always felt that the added layer of him being the Chosen One chepen that scene (and the whole character’s arc), a lot.
It’s like that idea that Palpatine is able the pull the most obvious and blatant coup scheme ever, without any form of subtlety, because he is mind controlling everyone in the senate and clouding everyone’s mind.
When you have this kind of elements, when you deny the characters their own free will, the story ceases to be about the character’s choices and become about some generic “greater destiny” that is really removed from the human condition. Most character’s action stop being meaningful, because they were controlled by someone/something else, so the characters don’t really have a choice. Vader’s choice is, now, less about a father who sacrifices everything to save his son and more about fulfilling a predetermined fate or destiny in which he didn’t really have any say (as a comparison: the same crap happens in TPM, when a 9 yo kid saves the day, resolving half of the main ending points [the space battle and the one on the ground] without really knowing what he’s doing, just by accident).
This, for example, is what I like the most about Han’s sacrifice in TFA: it’s even counterintuitive, from the perspective of the heroes’ goals – Han could just place the last bomb, turn his back and they all would be home free; actually, you could say that he even endangers his friends and the plan to destroy SK base, just to make what he knows to be a (most likely) ill-fated attempt at redeeming Ben. Just a father trying to save his son, out of his own free will – and that scene is so much more powerful for it, without any prophecy or greater destiny crap in the way.
It’s all about balance..the Jedi during Anakin’s time were thriving and were thousands in numbers..he basically brought balance by killing everyone and leaving two “real” Jedi in obi wan and Yoda..and two Sith himself and the emperor. Now him sacrificing his son was something totally different..and in doing so I believe the force is out of balance once again. So maybe this ST will be about regaining that balance. After all you can’t have a light side without a dark.
Perhaps his role was also to eradicate the Jedi as well as Sith. If Johnson means “final Jedi” literally, then maybe that’s the case. I’d be cool with both merging into Grey Jedi or something like that.
Vader’s sacrifice was to SAVE HIS SON — not to fulfill some “chosen one” BS Lucas reconned years later LOL
I know and if you could read my comment said that.
If you think there will be no more Jedi after Ep 8, hit me up as soon as possible — I have 10 major Bridges for sale ! Taking bids !
From the fact that they have said he is not. He doesn’t have a Darth title.
What about him seems Sith-like?
Old damaged wrinkly guy in a dark robe sitting in on a throne in a giant hologram taking advantage of a confused Skywalker. He’s seems a lot like the Emperor, who is the only Sith master in the series. So, to me, he seems Sith-like.
And few people knew Palpatine was a “Darth”.
Flimsy, but ok.
(We know he is)
If they go the route of killing off the Jedi, I’m just going to go back to believing the expanded universe is what happened at this new trilogy is legend. Dumbest idea from these guy yet.
same. It almost feels like they’re just coping what happened already with the Jedi purge and order 66. Its kind of uncreative tbh but hopefully they make it unique in this movie.
The old EU didn’t always make sense but at least it had heart, Something the new trilogy is utterly lacking in. No one will remember VII a few years from now, It’s made the PT age good in comparison.
“No one will remember VII a few years from now, It’s made the PT age good in comparison.”
Speak for yourself. Don’t assume that any fans share your delusions.
Took a while for you to get back into form Snarkums. You were actually pretty civil and constructive for a while.
But it’s back to telling all of us Star Wars fans what we like and don’t like.
Predictable.
Heart? it was pretty cynical at times, same as anything else.
No one will remember your comments in a day.
I’m sure Lucasfilm will miss your five bucks.
Did you know that in the Empire Strikes Back, there are NO Jedi? Luke is currently the “Last”…but I have a feeling Ep 9 will be a “RETURN” of some sort hmmmmmmmm
um, yoda? and ben albeit as a ghost…
Ghosts don’t count but you are RIGHT about Yoda! thank you !
But for part of ROTJ there were no Jedi.
I sincerely hope the Jedi order doesn’t simply disappear after the sequel trilogy. Otherwise, many fans will be upset.
There are going to be upset fans no matter what. At this point, it’s just noise.
I have no real investment at the ST at this point, The spinoffs are the literal future of SW. Doesn’t matter if TLC sucks worse than TFA long as we get R1 quality or higher with the other films.
I don’t think you know what literal means.
People say force awakens was too much of a clone, upset fans
possibility of the story group changing up things in the next movie, upset fans.
Honestly, I don’t think there’s anything they can do that will please everyone XD
Since it’s the Skywalker saga, the jedis can’t dissapear if the story move forward, unless they call the users of the force in a different way (or all existing Skywalkers being Siths).
It means its going to be a Luke Skywalker movie. This will be Mark Hamill’s big return to SW.
YES I HOPE YOU ARE 100% RIGHT
Yeah, especially with JJ Abrams saying Mark Hamill should win an Oscar.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6b59e00e04ddad6cad5150f83ed924e3a38e14d01ab36d2497679d0c8aca318b.jpg
“Without the Jedi, there can be no balance in the Force.”
-Lor San Tekka
Read: We’ll always be needing some Jedi around.
One person’s belief.
if they kill luke i swear i burn all my star wars comics, models,t shirts, movies, games and never watch sw again
Re: “i swear i burn all my star wars comics, models,t shirts, movies, games ”
I’ll make it easier on you – give ’em to me & I’ll burn them for you…out of sight so you won’t be traumatized by it.
maybe not in this next movie, but I would imagine his chance of living out the trilogy is about the same as Steve Irwin in a tank full of stingrays.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/325/428/264.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zAxu6Ub0dg
COOL
Jedi in a title is plural. It is already confirmed. In all international titles jedi is a plural.
You can call any OT Star Wars film, “The Last Jedi”, and it would make sense.
You can rename any PT film, “Only Five Jedi Characters Have Lines of Dialogue in This Movie”, and that would be pretty accurate too.
Luke could be the very last Jedi, and Rey could be the first of the Knights of Rey. :p
I just saw Logan over the weekend and I think part of the reason why it was so unsatisfying to me was due to having so many characters killed offscreen in between films only referenced in a throwaway line or in SW case a forceback. I hope they go into greater detail in the next two films about what really happened but I don’t see it happening on account of how much they have to cover, Star Wars has never really been about long monologues/forcebacks, and the fact it’s probably pretty expensive/time consuming to make Hamill look young again.
Everyone keeps saying “But in the International Markets” —- ummmmmm —- a lot can get lost in Translation guys. You can’t judge anything by a Translation of a Translation of a Translation in an International market — the most accurate info will be in the Market of Origin for any property. “The Last Jedi” refers to Luke Skywalker. Period and end of debate. You dont say “The Last” of anything there is a plurality. Use some common sense and MARK MY WORDS come December.
“You dont say “The Last” of anything if there is a plurality.”
My family and I are THE LAST of our people.
You can stop now.
“The Last Jedi” is Luke, as stated in the Crawl so I am right. 100%. and will return here in December to GLOAT about my accuracy.
That’s incredibly obnoxious.
My theory. The title is both singular and plural. The movie starts and there is one Jedi. The last of the Jedi – Luke. By the end of the movie the last of the Jedi numbers two.
Or even more that we don’t know!
(Not a dig on you) but if this is the case, I would hate to see a story that has Rey discover her force ability and then become a Jedi within, what, less than a month? That was some force vision in TFA.
What makes you think the movie only covers a month? She may stay with Luke for several years.
Ep 8 = Luke is LAST Jedi
Ep 9 = Rey becomes a NEW Jedi
Not rocket science here folks LOL
Every “LAST” leads to a “RETURN”….it’s Star Wars people. It is SIMPLE and GENIOUS at the same time.
That looks pretty similar to Luke´s way into the Force.
Episode 9: Rey of hope ??
Rey of Hope, love it.
Pre-TFA, some of us were expecting the Jedi order to have be reconstructed and poof, we’re back in Episode 1-2 fighting sith. But now I think (and hope) we get to see the development of a new force-using order or philosophy, perhaps tuned to counter whatever the Snoke/Kylo/KoR dark-side gang is. This could also include Luke’s death, hmmm?
Also could explain the plural use of “The Last Jedi” as meaning “the last of those Jedi-type people”, referring again to Luke.
Translation in plural is not solving the plot for us, thankfully:
The Return of the Jedi, was about Luke and also about the Jedi order… Luke was not a Jedi before, so he could not exactly Return, he returns as a jedi and it was also the return of the jedis represented by Luke to defeat the sith.
It was translated singular in other languages… but if it would have been translated in plural the meaning would have been pretty similar.
It doesn´t matter if the action is about one single person or a single person representing a group of them.
Poe Dameron did ANH Luke´s work in TFA, even more spectacular, is that meaning he will be the next Jedi?
Like Finn-Han talk “-use the force… -the force doesnt work like that!!”
Well, may be we don´t know everything about the force, right?
And Rey did all OT´s Luke way into the force in just one movie…
This time we have some clues, characters, main part of the story, compared to conjectures before The Force Awakens.
If we look to Old Trilogy, very important characters appeared in TESB, Yoda, Lando, and in TROTJ, Palpatine, Jabba…
So we can expect important characters will appear in The Last Jedi.
Who are they?
It is not likely but the opening crawl could be wrong, or may be there are other light side force users as Maz Kanata, or as Yoda and Obi Wan were in the OT, retired Jedis…
return of the Jedi means Darth Vader’s return to the light side as Anakin Skywalker.
yup
That is a good one.
You are right.
George Lucas, “Yeah Yeah Yeah! That’s right! That’s what I meant by that! Note to self…Return of the Jedi ALWAYS meant Vader returning as Jedi Anakin. Now to erase Revenge of the Jedi title from history….”
Hmm…. Luke never was part of the order.
Riiiiiiiiiiight…..so somebody’d best tell that to Episode VI: Return of the JEDI
http://i.imgur.com/sM6teCg.mp4
I always thought that that was referring to Darth Vader returning back to the light and becoming a Jedi again.
‘When gone am I…the last Jedi…will you be…” – Yoda to Luke
Yeah, but the title doesn’t necessarily have to correlate to that exact line, does it?
Not necessarily, no – ‘from a certain point of view’ 🙂
(But on the real, had Anakin survived the events of Ep. VI, his @$$ would’ve been anything but ‘redeemed’ in the eyes of the public / government – I think ‘war criminal’ + lengthy incarceration would’ve been his reward for chucking Palpy down the hole…hard to come back from giving a temple full of Jedi + Younglings the slice-n-dice)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzW727RY-ig
Agreed.
This does strongly imply that the Jedi in this movie will be the last in time ever and consequently the Jedi order will die with him/them.
Crazy Star Wars theory: TLJ won’t get a trailer because Disney will announce its new realease date of May the 4th, on May the 1st. Imagine the news and mass interest, even hysteria that would generate. The movie’s been complete for months now.
That’s just dumb commercial strategy. Won’t happen.
Ya think.
I think it could cause confusion and panic. So no… they aren’t going to do that. I don’t see a lot of upside in blindsiding everyone 3 days before.
Hehe it would be funny…
Didn’t Kathleen say they were planning to end the main series with ep 9?
I don’t recall that.
Kathleen NEVER said that.
Luke is the last jedi. Rey, if properly trained, may take the mantle and continue the jedi. It’s that simple. No more needs to be read into it. If they do away with sith and jedi, then they’ve done away with star wars.
Agreed. Though I slightly disagree with your ending part. Jedi and Sith are just names for people who use the light and dark side of the force. I think a better way to phrase what you said would be if they do away with the Dark Side and Light Side Force users (and lightsabers to an extent) then they’ve done away with the Main Series films because the characters don’t necessarily have to be Jedi or Sith. As long as they are from the light or dark there’s still a story to tell that falls in line with what we know.
I dont agree with the whole “grey jedi” thing. If you use the darkside of the force, then you aren’t a Jedi. It’s a black and white issue.
I agree. Although everybody is “grey” in a way, I hate it when people say it would be better to be kinda dark and kinda light. No, good means good and bad means bad and we should strive for the good. It can be nuanced, but we shouldn’t let nuance mean there is no truth.
I always thought grey jedi meant a jedi who didn’t necessarily follow or adhere slavishly to the teachings of the Jedi Order as it was in the last days of the Republic.
This doesn’t mean that they used the dark side or gave in to anger but more along the lines that they may not agree with the practice of only indoctrinating people of a certain age into the ways of the force, that they may form some attachments that the council wouldn’t agree with, and that they may seek out other forms of force knowledge that were separate from the Jedi teachings, like the Bendu or the Whills.
Granted this was all based on the idea that Qui Gon was a grey jedi and so that informed my definition of what a grey jedi would be.
It should also be noted that Pablo Hidalgo said there were no grey jedi.
No such thing as grey Jedi and Qui Gon was not one. He was a Jedi.
Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.
No, that’s a fact.
It’s a type of fact.
” Jedi and Sith are just names for people who use the light and dark side of the force.”
No. Jedi and Sith are distinct philosophies. A person can use the Force and be neither.
Rogue One had no Jedi (and just one Sith). Star Wars can live on without Jedi.
As I said before, No, it cannot.
A sea of endless war movies is not Star Wars. An occasional one works.
Or could be Ben Solo redeemed, who knows, but until December or the trailers we will not know for sure.
PRECISELY
“If they do away with sith and jedi, then they’ve done away with star wars.”
Rogue One proves you wrong.
No, it does not.
A sea of endless war movies is not Star Wars. An occasional one works.
You say that now, but after we’ve had a few Anthology films, I think you’ll be singing a different tune.
Search your feelings, you know it to be true!!
Anyone can be Batman… I mean, a Force wielder.
Off Topic: But looks like we could be seeing something REALLY soon! The Shareholders have seen footage! There are MINOR SPOILERS!!!! See below if you want to read more
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-last-jedi-footage-shown-disney-shareholders-984424
Trying to devine the plot of this film from a three word title is getting us exactly nowhere.
Suckers!!!
You know what’s really upsets me? Why is too cold in restaurants? I’ve noticed this trend for some time. You have to keep your jacket on! Why are they doing this?
this is the greatest comment I have ever seen
The colder you are the more you eat and drink.
I knew it.
I can’t believe this is even a thing. WTF do you think “last” means?
“Last” (adj): [1] coming after all others in time; final
OR
[2] The most recent in time.
“Final” (adj): [1] coming at the end of a series.
These two words are not entirely synonymous.