Rogue One Editors Reveal Which Scenes Were Added to the Movie After the Reshoots

Rogue One finished principal photography in February 2016. Then in June the movie started doing a scheduled reshoots which caused quite a stir in the fan community mainly because of several rumors and the fact that a new writer (Tony Gilroy) was added to the crew very late in the game. Now Yahoo Movies posted an extensive interview with the editors John Gilroy, Jabez Olssenand, and Colin Goudie, revealing what exactly was added by the reshoots and what else changed during the production.

 
Editor Colin Goudie revealed that very early in the production (September 2014) Gareth Edwards asked him to do a story reel for Rogue One.

There was no screenplay, there was just a story breakdown at that point, scene by scene. He got me to rip hundreds of movies and basically make ‘Rogue One’ using other films so that they could work out how much dialogue they actually needed in the film.

For example the sequence of them breaking into the vault I was ripping the big door closing in ‘Wargames’ to work out how long does a vault door take to close.

So that’s what I did and that was three months work to do that and that had captions at the bottom which explained the action that was going to be taking place, and two thirds of the screen was filled with the concept art that had already been done and one quarter, the bottom corner, was the little movie clip to give you how long that scene would actually take.

Then I used dialogue from other movies to give you a sense of how long it would take in other films for someone to be interrogated. So for instance, when Jyn gets interrogated at the beginning of the film by the Rebel council, I used the scene where Ripley gets interrogated in ‘Aliens’.

 

 

Also Goudie once again confirmed that the pickups were scheduled from day one and everyone knew which parts required reshoots.

Colin Goudie: It was just something that was on the schedule. We were always going to be there and it was a case of working out, as the story went on, which pieces need a bit more clarification, which places needed a bit more character.

 

Many fans are hoping to see many deleted scenes on the Rogue One Blu-ray release of the movie, mainly because there were lots of shots from the trailers that didn’t end up on the final cut. Unfortunately it seems that the first cut of the movie was not much longer that the finished film:

Colin Goudie: It was not much longer than the finished film. I think the first assembly was not far off actual release length. Maybe 10 minutes longer? I genuinely can’t remember because that was nearly a year ago now. There’s no mythical four hour cut, it doesn’t exist.

 

Well, I would say – 10 minutes is all we need then. 🙂

 

 

The Rogue One editors were directly asked if there are any deleted scenes that they’re proud of and if we might end up seeing them in the future.

John Gilroy: I don’t know. For me, no. I can’t think of anything.

Colin Goudie: There’s a handful that if people see them they’ll be like ‘oh that’s interesting’, but I don’t think there’s anything whereby you’d be like ‘why did they cut that out?’

John Gilroy: We were in a different position. It wasn’t like ‘the movie’s great, but we have to lose 10 minutes’ or whatever. It was a different situation.

 

When asked how the reshoots changed the film, John Gilroy directly revealed which were the main scenes that were added to the movie:

John Gilroy: They (the reshoots) gave you the film that you see today. I think they were incredibly helpful. The story was reconceptualised to some degree, there were scenes that were added at the beginning and fleshed out. We wanted to make more of the other characters, like Cassian’s character, and Bodhi’s character.
The scene with Cassian’s introduction with the spy, Bodhi traipsing through Jedha on his way to see Saw, these are things that were added. Also Jyn [Jyn Erso, the reluctant leader of the film, played by Felicity Jones], how we set her up and her escape from the transporter, that was all done to set up the story better. So having her in prison and then a prison break out, with Cassian on a mission… everybody was a bit more ballsy, or a bit more exciting, and a bit more interesting.

 

 

John Gilroy confirmed Ben Mendelsohn’s words from a few days ago that the final third of the film was heavily changed:

John Gilroy: It changed quite a bit. The third act has a lot going on. You have like seven different action venues, the mechanics of the act changed quite a bit in terms of the characters, and I don’t want to go into too much detail about what had been there before, but it was different.

We moved some of the things that our heroes did, they were different in the original then they were as it was conceived.

 

 

For the full interview go to  Yahoo Movies

 

 

 

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60 thoughts on “Rogue One Editors Reveal Which Scenes Were Added to the Movie After the Reshoots

  • January 3, 2017 at 9:51 pm
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    As a life long fan, I will be honest here. This movie has no Star Wars soul, and it will be the first one I will no buy the bluray. I hope among fans it is allowed not to like a SW product here in this site.

    • January 3, 2017 at 10:00 pm
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      I disagree. I feel it was very much a star wars film. It had the look and feel of a new hope. The acting was good the story was good and the vis effects were really good. Regarding the blu-ray however, I learned a lesson with force awakens. If we don’t get an audio commentary with this release I’m going to wait until one comes out with commentary.

    • January 3, 2017 at 10:17 pm
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      No, you can definitively not like it. That’s not an issue here. I personally found it to be amazing, but to each their own.

      • January 4, 2017 at 12:26 am
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        Same here.

    • January 3, 2017 at 10:17 pm
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      I completely agree, i just didn’t care about any of the characters which wernt developed enough in my opinion, and the music didn’t connect to me emotionally. Big things i expect from a star wars film, if they had fleshed out the characters, made them more likable and inserted alot of the old trilogy music then i would have been really happy. The cinematography, direction, acting, CGI, battles were all on point but without emotional investment it fell a little short of my expectations.

    • January 3, 2017 at 10:24 pm
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      No it’s perfectly fine. We generally have discussions here that don’t go to far into the realm of insults. Example. I loved the OT, TFA and R1… but hate the PT. It all works out in the end.

      I loved R1… to me it’s strangely the most Star Wars film we’ve had since the OT while also being the most NOT Star Wars film we’ve had. I get the criticisms and largely agree with them. Same with TFA. They just didn’t ruin the films for me. Not like how I felt with the PT.

    • January 3, 2017 at 10:24 pm
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      understandable, but I felt it much more in the spirit of Star Wars than TFA at least. It fit right into the timeline and connected a lot of stuff, it had a lot of interesting references without being over the top copycat nostalgia, it was smart and respectful of the mythology, humor was delegated to the side characters, and brought a lot of refreshing things. Taking risks is what made Star Wars Star Wars, and this film did that. And even as a film it was better than TFA. It fully developed the characters and had way less plot holes.

    • January 3, 2017 at 11:40 pm
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      Interesting. I view Rogue One as a wonderful addition to the franchise in ways that both deepen and broaden all of Star Wars, while telling a story of of a group of individuals fighting for a common cause. I see the saga films as being archetype-driven, instead; where the action of the story is motivated by events happening to a few key, larger-than-life characters who embody certain universal qualities (Leia = hope, strength, Rey = wild talent, perseverance, Vader = hate, coldness, Luke = innocence, optimism, etc). The pleasure of the saga films for me is derived more from how well one can relate to those archetypes.

      I enjoyed Rogue One because I saw the same attributes of sacrifice, hope and courage being displayed in a real-world type of setting by many “regular” individuals, and it was not about the archetypes this time. For me, both ways work, but produce different types of films. I love Ep. 7, the OT, and Rogue One both, for this reason.

    • January 3, 2017 at 11:40 pm
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      As a life-long Star Wars fan, I think I liked Rogue One better than A New Hope, though that’s been in 3rd place for me for a long time.

    • January 4, 2017 at 12:25 am
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      You’re allowed to not like the movie, lol. It’s just that a lot of us disagree with you.

  • January 3, 2017 at 9:57 pm
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    I thought Bodhi going through all the nonsense to get to Saw and that monster thing didn’t play well or pay off at all in the rest of the movie. Bodhi seemed to remember he was the pilot after 5 minutes and then was fine afterwards. I think the whole point was to show how far off Saw had fallen and that he was extreme but didn’t really work for me since we weren’t really introduced to Saw and what he was like before the events of Rogue One anyhow.

    • January 3, 2017 at 9:59 pm
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      It wasn’t about Saw, it was about showing how divided the Rebels were.

      • January 3, 2017 at 10:06 pm
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        How so? It wasn’t that the Rebels were going to Saw for help after a bitter split, it was that they needed Jyn as a way to get to Saw to get to Bodhi. I was speaking more of the added scene of Bodhi and the tentacle monster and the 3 separate scenes of him trying to convince Saw that he was telling the truth. They were pointless storywise.

        • January 3, 2017 at 10:08 pm
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          It was the extreme measures of Saw that require them to use Jyn. So they actually show you the extreme measures and it makes you question how different Saw is from the Empire if he resorts to such tactics.
          Those added scenes show Saw not willing to listen, to show how isolated he had become and why it was only Jyn who could reach out to him and make him listen.

          • January 3, 2017 at 10:33 pm
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            I would agree with you if Saw was in anymore of the film aside from when we briefly saw (no pun intended) him. Jyn being the key to get to Saw from I read was always a key storypoint. It should have been Jyn being the key to bring these two forces back together to fight a common enemy. But Saw being paranoid and doing something to Bodhi with no consequences throughout the rest of the film and to only give up and die was what made the scene not work for me.

          • January 4, 2017 at 12:13 am
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            Saw was broken. He realized it and let himself perish, in contrast to Vader, until his final sacrifice.

            We would have been questioning why Jyn was necessary at all if Saw was just another rebel that could be reasoned with at all. They would have just reached out without Jyn first.

          • January 4, 2017 at 1:56 am
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            For me, Saw just didn’t cut it in this movie.

          • January 4, 2017 at 3:52 am
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            badum-crash.

          • January 4, 2017 at 3:22 am
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            If he realized that he was broken then why not help finish what you started? I thought it was a weird choice. Have him try to leave with them and with his robotic leg he slows down the group and Cassian and Saw have a moment where it’s decided that the best choice is to leave him behind so when he he decides not to kill Galen Erso either the character moment is actually earned. Just him giving up after fighting all this time and sacrificing his body, doesn’t make much sense to me.

          • January 4, 2017 at 3:55 am
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            There was for sure some larger idea they had at play in the shooting script for Saw. As best I can figure, story-wise he was there to break our idea of the Rebellion based on the OT, and present instead a fragile, fragmented, disparate collection of groups, needing some cataclysmic event to propel them into BEING an alliance. It’s pretty mangled though in the final edit.

          • January 4, 2017 at 12:27 pm
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            He was broken. This ain’t his redemption story, nor is it a happy one.

          • January 4, 2017 at 3:34 pm
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            Nor did I think that it was, but it seems that the dialogue included in the trailer fleshed out his motivations more. “What would you do if they catch you what would you do if they break you? If you continue to fight what will you become” You just met this character, know little about him except his connection to Jyn in the movie, and you have his soldiers under his orders still fighting but then when he sees that the Empire is more powerful than he even could image he gives up? I thought it was a little weak character wise and motivation wise. I still enjoyed the movie but like most films it had it’s flaws.

          • January 4, 2017 at 3:54 pm
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            He gives up because he realizes he alienated a person that was trusted to him.

            The trailer dialogue is irrelevant or can be interpreted that he himself became a person that would truly abandon somebody, and didn’t want to live with that guilt after confronting it. Passing the ‘dream’ off to Jyn and Cassian and the like.

          • January 4, 2017 at 4:26 pm
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            Redemption is always a choice. He choose to be a coward about it, and give up fighting which is a complete 180 from his character.

          • January 4, 2017 at 11:51 pm
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            He wasn’t physically making it out of there alive. lol

    • January 3, 2017 at 10:22 pm
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      I think it would have added to his character to still have moments of confusion. Didn’t bother me to much though.

      • January 3, 2017 at 10:35 pm
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        It wasn’t a killer for me, but in my first viewing I was waiting for Bodhi to have that moment where the effects from the Monster come back but never came. It seemed like a wasted scene to me.

  • January 3, 2017 at 10:23 pm
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    So a lot of the messy editing is to blame on the reshoots?
    I really wish we could get the original product some time.

    • January 4, 2017 at 12:21 am
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      It was probably inferior, if a bit more smooth.

      • January 4, 2017 at 6:37 am
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        I have a bad feeling that for the rest of all time we will be hearing about some mythically better “original” Rogue One that Disney refuses to release.

        • January 4, 2017 at 7:14 am
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          And then when we get it in 20 years it’s 10 minutes longer and not better at all. But fanboys will always speculate.

      • January 5, 2017 at 12:03 am
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        Or drag on and on like Return of the King’s ending.

  • January 3, 2017 at 10:42 pm
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    I’d love to see the original ending even with enjoying the one in the film. I’m sure Disney will never release that or even go so far as to say what happened though.

  • January 3, 2017 at 10:45 pm
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    Those added scenes at the beginning of the film are painfully obvious. They must’ve feared a lack of early action, so they added scenes that were wholly unnecessary. Everything we need to know at the beginning of this film is conveyed to Jyn by Mon Mothma and others at the early briefing.

    I wonder if they’ll ever reveal just how much this film was actually overhauled. It certainly appears that Jyn was originally conceived as a sergeant (according to the toys) for the Rebel Alliance who was facing discipline, but was ultimately recruited for a mission by Mon Mothma to investigate an imminent weapons test. That would explain why, in the early trailers, Jyn authoritatively leads pilots out of the Rebel base with a blaster strapped to her hip, why she was the one piloting the U-wing, and why she was enthusiastically recruiting Saw (“Now is our chance to make a real difference!”)

    • January 4, 2017 at 12:38 am
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      I wondered that myself about the Sgt. Jyn. In the novel before the raid on Scarif she is breveted the rank of Sgt. my Lt. Sefla.

    • January 4, 2017 at 12:55 am
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      I would have believed you if you would have said this a couple weeks ago, right now it is revealed I don’t think you know any more than anybody else what was it and what was not. I know they shot those iceland shots way before the reshoots in June

  • January 3, 2017 at 11:07 pm
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    Not directly related to this news, but I read this on another message board — I like this theory.

    If you want to believe that Jyn and Cassian survived, there could be a logical explanation for this. The Kyber crystal she wore around her neck. As the blast approached them, this caused the Kyber to react and surround them with an energy field that protected them. Maybe this is how the energy field of a light saber works — by reacting to another energy field when it comes within range. Remember that Jyn’s mother told her to trust the Force when she gave her the necklace.

    So if they do a comic book continuation of Jyn’s life, it could open with her waking up in the midst of the charred landscape of Scarif, and her Kyber on the ground near her glowing brightly.

    I accept their characters dying in the movie. But, like Boba Fett’s death in ROTJ, you can pretend otherwise if you want, and there is a logical out — the Kyber that her mother gave her.

    • January 4, 2017 at 12:05 am
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      No chance. Book adaptation (canon) says that they both die.

    • January 4, 2017 at 3:21 am
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      There is no logic there

    • January 4, 2017 at 3:56 am
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      Sure, neuter the whole point of the film. Why not, right?

    • January 5, 2017 at 12:01 am
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      Boba Fett is logical, he had armor with ropes and a jetpack.

      This is……creating an entirely new science fiction element way more significant than how a crystal gets its color.

  • January 4, 2017 at 12:08 am
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    RO lacked character development and a lot the narrative was sloppy, so a first cut of this film was obviously worse. Suits are creatively dead, but they have the same taste as general public so I think they were right to know that the film needed help.

    The fact that they’re using other films edited to together to understand pacing etc., is a result or poor/eroding writing skills in film industry. Or at least for Lucasfilm. RO has a lot of bad, redundant, superfluous dialogue (as did FA). They need a real writer with basic skills to go in and gut their scripts for dialogue and scene editing, before they ever start filming

    • January 4, 2017 at 12:10 am
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      Man, I haven’t seen satire like this since the last Mel Brooks movie, or a
      Verhoven film….maybe even since Starship Troopers, or RoboCop.

      • January 4, 2017 at 12:53 am
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        Because only he knows what a real writer is. 😉 it’s pretty subjective.

    • January 4, 2017 at 1:35 am
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      Totally with you there, GrizzlyAdams.

    • January 4, 2017 at 3:21 am
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      “The fact that they’re using other films edited together to understand pacing etc., is a result or poor/eroding writing skills in film industry.”

      Actually a common thing. Lucas did the same when cutting together the space combat in ANH.

    • January 4, 2017 at 4:00 am
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      Wrong.

    • January 4, 2017 at 11:16 am
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      That film technique was used with the original Star Wars too…

  • January 4, 2017 at 12:24 am
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    It’s crazy to think of the movie without those little moments introducing the characters in it. That would have been a grave mistake and I’m glad they added those, even if it meant that 10 or so other minutes had to scoot out.

  • January 4, 2017 at 1:26 am
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    So all those rumors seem to have been correct and they actually did rework a significant portion of the film. Added scenes in, completely changing the 3rd act as well. It doesn’t matter now, the film ended up as a good movie, but it is interesting to note that those re-shoots were very significant and not your typical re-shoots.

    • January 4, 2017 at 3:09 am
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      Hmmm…it’s almost…as if…people who at the time said these were major re-shoots were….let me get this straight, right? And people loudly proclaiming that 6 weeks of re-shoots were just usual pickups were…wrong? Weird.

      • January 4, 2017 at 3:24 am
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        Lol, I wasn’t trying to toot that horn, but yeah we were right.

  • January 4, 2017 at 2:26 am
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    The 3rd act drastically changed.
    1) In trailer footage, Jyn (with the DS plans) & Cassian were shown running on the beach, zig-zagging to avoid AT-ACT fire.
    2) Krennic was shown from the back walking through shin deep water in trailer footage.
    3) Is there any truth to the rumors that the rebels initially made it off Scariff and were one by one stalked & killed by Vader, and the story was changed to the rebels dying on Scariff and the Vader scene changed to what we see in the final film?

    • January 4, 2017 at 2:29 am
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      3. Probably not.

    • January 4, 2017 at 3:07 am
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      Pure speculation, but I think those are probably easiest explained by the transmitter and the archives possibly being in separate buildings during principle photography. First edit might have revealed they were hopping between too many locations, and so just made them one building instead.

        • January 4, 2017 at 4:54 am
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          In the original cut, I speculate that Jyn, Cassian, K-2SO and Rebel commandos made a run to this tower in order to transmit the Death Star plans.

          So the three started from the archives room, ran through the transport station, and back out onto the beach.

          Krennic was on the beach, telling his Death Troopers to stop them. K-2SO and Cassian held them off as long as they could while Jyn uploaded the plans. They all died at the base of that transmission tower.

          • January 4, 2017 at 5:33 am
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            Yep. That sounds about right And footage of all of that has been seen in the trailers. K-2SO originally survived the Citadel tower only to die with the rest of them. I’m guessing that he held of Krennic as Jyn and Cassian climbed the Antenna to transmit the plans.

  • January 4, 2017 at 2:30 am
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    SW: 10, TESB: 9.9, ROTJ: 7.6, TPM: 4, AOTC: 1, ROTS: 3, TFA: 8.2, RO: 6.6

    • January 4, 2017 at 5:18 am
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      SW,ESB,ROTJ – 10. TPM 7, AOTC 5, ROTS 5, TFA 8, RO 3. But generally I don’t give points to these movies. I take it as one story, especially 1-6. And I never had a favourite one. If I do, it would probably be Jedi, the firs Star Wars movie I have seen, in 83. Although Clones and Sith are not great movies, they still have this Star Wars essence, they are pure SW. Some would say The true SW. And it will always be so, new movies will be compared to the old trilogy or hexalogy, depending if you are/are not a PT hater. TFA was good, it was Star Wars, but it was different and the story was not superbly developed.. we need to see the whole trilogy to judge. So far not bad. But RO, I didn’t feel it to be Star Wars. I liked old footage. I didn’t like bad cgi Leia..music, fan service everywhere, wierd (and unconsistently fast and flexible Vader), the story, the lack of SW naivity and since I have kids and see SW from a different point of view, I don’t need a SW movie pretending to be “dark” or “more mature”. I want it to be for kids, as it was always ment to be. Here are the good guys, here the bad guys. The Empire was cold, evil, but never like Krennick. I could go on an on but you have the picture of why I felt nothing. And the usual gate to that far away universe wasn’t there. Turned to be for the best, at the end…

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