The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer #2: A Shot-By-Shot Analysis

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There was plenty to feast your eyes on yesterday with the debut of The Force Awakens second teaser.  We have a little bit better idea of the look and feel for the new film, but let’s take a closer look to see what we might have missed.  Here’s our shot by shot analysis of the trailer.

 

LFL Logo

 

0:10–  A new, sleek look for the Lucasfilm Ltd. logo

 

0:15-0:20–  John William’s sweeping intro as we fade into the desert planet of Jakku,

 

Jakku

 

0:22-0:31– A wrecked Star Destroyer, it’s front half buried underground in what looks like a crash landing.  The remains of an old X-Wing in the foreground.  It would imply a pretty serious battle took place above or on this planet, and judging from the wear on both these spacecrafts remains, it was some time ago.

 

0:34– Luke Skywalker says “The Force is strong in my family…” after we fade to black from the wreckage.  It is dialogue taken from Return of the Jedi, specifically the scene where Luke tells Leia she is his sister.

 

Vader

 

0:40-0:43– Darth Vader’s warped mask.  It appears to be the same one we saw burning on Endor, 35-years-ago from where we see it now.  It looks to be resting on an Imperial examining table, judging from the black chrome surface under it.  Luke says in the narration:  “My father has it…”  This appears to be a reveal, as someone (presumably Kylo Ren or the other baddie), is standing in the foreground as the camera pans around their side.

 

Luke

 

0:45-0:50– R2-D2, positioned next to a campfire or some source of fire, embers floating from a source off camera.  A hooded figure, knelt down next to him, we can assume is Luke, as his narration says “I have it…”.  His cyborg right hand extends from the robe and is placed gently on R2.  This is could be part of the much speculated “flashback” or something else, but the fabric surrounding Luke’s arm is an outfit we have not seen.  If it’s Jedi robes, it’s very close to the tone of A New Hope’s Obi-Wan Kenobi garb.

 

Alien

 

0:52-0:56– A small, orangish hand lifts Anakin Skywalker’s lightsaber up to a human hand we can assume to be Leia’s or someone related to Leia, as Luke’s narration states “My sister has it…”.  For a quick second, 0:53, you can make out the profile of the orangish alien.

 

0:59-1:00– Black screen, Luke’s narration “…you have that power, too…”

 

1:01-1:05– Titles “This Christmas”

 

X-Wings

 

1:06-1:07– X-Wing squadron, swooping down over a lake, dipping the tip of their wings and splashing the surface.  We have seen this squadron in a much tighter formation in the first trailer, so it’s cool to see more free style flying.

 

Poe

 

1:07-1:08– Poe Dameron cheering himself on.  Note the orange and black flight helmet. Who is now confirmed to be piloting the black X-Wing.

 

1:09– Kylo Ren bringing his lightsaber down upon an unfortunate victim.

 

Rey and Finn

 

1:09-1:10– Rey and Finn running from the desert city we have seen in leaked photos.  Explosions and a descending TIE Fighter in the upper left corner of the frame.  Rey is holding some sort of staff weapon.  Finn is dressed in civilian clothing.  BB-8 rolls behind them both.

 

Kylo Ren

 

1:11– Kylo Ren brings up his hand in either a Force push or choke.  Note, the Stormtroopers in the background appear to be surrounding a scared looking civilian population, flames lighting up the night.  And is that a moisture vaporator in the background?

 

Stormtroopers

 

1:13– A legion of Stormtroopers, a black and white TIE Fighter, appear to be gathered below a platform under their leader (too far away to tell if it is Kylo Ren) with an Imperial insignia banner behind him.  This appears to be some sort of base or fortress, as it is flanked by laser cannons on both sides of the Imperial banner.  As the camera pans down, the Stormtroopers appear to be turning to look at something.

 

Rey

 

1:14– Rey looking up at someone, skeptical and nervous

 

Tie Fighter

 

1:15– Two chrome and black TIE Fighters swooping down through black smoke of whatever they just destroyed.

 

Boom

 

1:16-1:17– A TIE Fighter blasting Stormtroopers as they fire on it.  One could speculate this is Finn’s escape and defection from the Empire.

 

Finn

 

1:17-1:19– Finn, hastily removing his Stormtrooper helmet (not the bloody fingermarks on the helmet), and looking very upset.  Note the reflections of in his armor are flames and the background of the shot appears to be the transport from the first teaser trailer that carried the Stormtrooper platoon.

 

Star Destroyer

 

1:19-1:20– Kylo Ren’s ship, flanked by three ships of a design we have not yet seen, approaching a Star Destroyer.  Note, the Star Destroyer is also a new design, it’s pointed end of the hull much flatter and extended than Original Trilogy ones.

 

Chrome

 

1:20-1:21– Hello Chrome Trooper (possibly Captain Phasma), wearing a scarlet-trim, black-cape, carrying a large chrome rifle, and passing through a portion of an Imperial corridor that appears to have been attacked (the left side looks like the after effects of an explosion or large laser blast).

 

BB-8

 

1:21– BB-8 nervously poking his head around the corner of the Millennium Falcon’s corridor

 

1:22– Rey, looking concerned and distressed.

 

Finn

 

1:23-1:25– A scared Finn, sweating from heat and nerves, taking a hand that is offered to help him up off the ground.

 

Falcon

 

1:26-1:28– The Millennium Falcon on it’s getaway, swooping around the wreckage of a Super Star Destroyer (not the shape and size of the wrecked thrusters), and eventually into the remains, followed by two TIE Fighters.  It could be speculated that the Millennium Falcon is making a getaway and speed is the only thing they have on their side, since we have yet to see them fire back.  Something might be wrong with the Falcon, ala The Empire Strikes Back.  We will see :).

 

Pilot

 

1:28-1:29– The TIE Fighter cockpit.  Flight suit of Imperial pilot appears to be a chrome variety.

 

1:29-1:30– More shots fired at the Millennium Falcon, this time the shots hit the innards of the wreckage they are flying through causing an explosion.

 

1:33– Black screen, silence, and a familiar voice.  Han Solo says, “Chewie…”

 

Han & Chewie

 

1:35-1:37– Fade-in to Han Solo, dressed in the usual white shirt but with a beat-up brown leather jacket, his blaster raised but his face warm with nostalgia.  Chewbacca, standing beside him, crossbow raised as well.  Han Solo says with disbelief, “We’re home”.  Chewie roars in confirmation.

 

1:38-1:45– Title card for “Star Wars The Force Awakens”.

 

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Kyle Larson lives in Portland, Oregon. When he's not running trails, he's reading and writing.

Kyle Larson

Kyle Larson lives in Portland, Oregon. When he's not running trails, he's reading and writing.

213 thoughts on “The Force Awakens Teaser Trailer #2: A Shot-By-Shot Analysis

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:25 pm
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    Awesome!!!!!

    • April 18, 2015 at 1:30 am
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      The shot of R2D2….Oh my gosh, I know what that is…I can just feel it…that scene is going to be a killer to watch…OH MY!…very sad scene that will be…the entire theater will be in tears. I really cannot believe their doing it…must have been a special request that is being respected and honored. WOW…going to bring the audience down…that will be one of, if not, the low point of the film. I really wish they had not put that in the trailer. Too obvious. Oh ,man, PAIN! I do not have the heart to tell you if you can’t feel it just by watching it. Sorry, just can’t spoil it. I wish I was wrong but I am not.

      • April 18, 2015 at 2:09 am
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        Solos death is going to be hard to get through… 🙁

        • April 18, 2015 at 2:54 am
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          Not what the comment is speaking of my friend.

          • April 18, 2015 at 3:41 am
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            You shut up as well. Moron. You know nothing.

          • April 20, 2015 at 2:39 am
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            god damn it jon snow we know thats you there

      • April 18, 2015 at 3:39 am
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        Oh shut up you moron. You know nothing like everyone else. “Oh my god it’s unreal. Please no not that. Not my initial thoughts made true. I knew it I knew it I k,,,, shut up boy

        • April 18, 2015 at 4:13 am
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          Hey man, it is real…I know I’m right…just take a close look at the shot and it will come to you….notice the fire…notice R2D2 staring at the fire…notice Luke consoling R2D2 and dropping his head as well…get it now????

          • April 19, 2015 at 4:33 am
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            3P0!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

      • April 19, 2015 at 7:33 am
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        It’s the most revealing shot of the trailer, isnt it? I think given the somber atmosphere, we’re definitely looking at a funeral pyre. Which begs the question, who’s funeral is it? Well, we know Jedi are always cremated. Now that doesn’t exclude anyone, but since that is a staple of the entire saga, i think it’s safe to assume that maybe it could be a Jedi’s funeral. Now, we have no idea how many legit Jedi there may be in the galaxy at this point, but all indications point to Luke still being the only person with any real Jedi experience. Then we have Luke’s faithful companion Artoo being consoled. The more I think about it, the more I get the feeling this could be Luke’s funeral. I have no idea who the hooded figure could be, but it really just doesn’t look like Mark Hamill in that shot. Could be a trick of perspective, but I’m just not getting the impression that it’s Luke Skywalker in that cloak.

        Just my 2 pennies.

        • April 19, 2015 at 6:51 pm
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          It could be a scene of the rumored flashback sequence where the younglings were killed and its their bodies that are being burned.
          And in the closeup of Rey above it looks like she may be holdin a crystal of some type. Kaiber crystal?

      • April 23, 2015 at 9:43 pm
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        It does look like they are mourning something. I have also heard of Han wanting a limited role. Could be Solo, but you know nothing, you are speculating just like the rest of us. You sound like you’re just trying to over-inflate your own ego pretending you know something other people don’t. There is lots of speculation that makes sense, some of it will be right, some will be wrong.

    • April 18, 2015 at 10:13 am
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      could kylo ren and rey be the solo twins?
      maybe luke trained kylo and he chose the dark path… rey in hiding as a scavenger… avoiding the order, but eventually will try to save her brother and family. Cant wait to see this!!

    • April 19, 2015 at 1:55 am
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      Um, am I the only one who thinks the mask worn by the sith looks just like Revan?

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:25 pm
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    This is really gonna give me insomnia. I was practically up all last night anyway with the stuff playing on my mind, and trying to make sense of things. Now I`m gonna need horse tranquilizer after studying this.

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:30 pm
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    You forgot to mention the metallic voice that echos Luke’s first two lines…

    • April 18, 2015 at 12:59 am
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      Thats the first thing I noticed, its almost like who ever the baddie is he’s very obsessed with skywalker family. he knows what they said or are saying via the force?

    • April 18, 2015 at 1:30 am
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      Lukes main voice is very soft, his light side, and The evil echo could be the dark side of him, representing his stuggle to stay on the light side of the force.

      • April 18, 2015 at 4:41 am
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        There are different voices that echo Luke. First Vader echoes “the force is strong in my family,” then Luke’s voice from ROTJ echoes, “my father had it,” then a higher pitched voice echoes the next 2 lines of “I have it” and “my sister has it.” Close your eyes and listen. Clearly 3 different voices. Unique timbres and tones.

        • April 19, 2015 at 6:57 pm
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          As we now know the other voice is Mark Hamill’s. He went in the studio recently and recorded the same lines as a reverb.

      • April 18, 2015 at 1:08 pm
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        Sounds like James Earl Jones

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:31 pm
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    note that the hand taking the sabre has long fingernails, whereas Rey does not.

    • April 17, 2015 at 10:34 pm
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      I was going to mention that the hand taking the saber has long fingernails, too. Probably not Rey, but, rather, Leia.

      • April 18, 2015 at 1:23 am
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        It absolutely Is Leia

        • April 18, 2015 at 3:43 am
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          An old woman with young hands. Yeah right. Cgi hands. Must be.

          • April 18, 2015 at 11:34 am
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            Yeah after watching Carrie at celebration.. I noticed her hands looked larger than the hands in the teaser

          • April 18, 2015 at 2:47 pm
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            didn’t they cast Carrie’s daughter to play a younger Leia? This could be her – in a flashback.

          • April 18, 2015 at 10:25 pm
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            the reason Carrie Fisher’s hands don’t look like her hands could well be that they belong to Billie Lourd. no flashbacks required. i am equally sure that the Young Original Hero will ensure that Luke jumps around like a Jedi when he needs to as well. stunt doubles they are.

    • April 17, 2015 at 10:40 pm
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      I’ve thought this to be Leia, too. Especially with the “sister” reference. But I think the bigger question remains or presents itself – If this is NOT a flashback or something, how does the “Old” skywalker lightsaber return? An interesting question that I’m sure will be addressed once the film is released.

      • April 17, 2015 at 11:14 pm
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        I think it’s Rey getting the Lightsaber. The hand looks young.

      • April 18, 2015 at 10:30 pm
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        two options
        1) “we found this in an exhaust vent on Bespin”

        2) “i took my apprentice’s sabre from him and hurled it into space once i discovered he was communing with the darkside”

      • April 22, 2015 at 4:33 am
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        Uh, don’t any of you remember the floating saber through space rumor?

        Sadly, it’ll probably be the first shot of the film. I have so much more hope for this film now that I’ve seen the second trailer but the saber in space is too childish of an idea to start a SW film with.

        After seeing the concept art and that it is the original saber, not to mention Kylo Ren’s burned Vader helmet, all the pieces form together and I can almost guarantee we’ll see the saber in space instead of a ship, after the crawl.

        I hope, hope, hope, hope I’m wrong BUT sadly, I don’t think so. I’m not letting that one shot ruin this movie either.

    • April 17, 2015 at 11:29 pm
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      I would say that this is not Leia. What immediately brought my attention in this shot the first time watching the trailer was the hands of the recipient. And after watching it a couple of times it became absolutely clear that that is the hand of someone much younger than Carrie Fisher. Even went as far as checking photos on google xD IF that is Leia then it has to be a flashback of some kind and someone else doing the role. My guess would be Billie Lourd.

      • April 18, 2015 at 4:33 am
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        Christ.

    • April 17, 2015 at 11:43 pm
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      Good observation on the nails. I haven’t looked specifically at Reys hands.. but the nails and ring does not strike me as a shipyard operators.

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:33 pm
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    I think the Vader helmet is on a plinth, with other similar ‘trophies’ nearby. also a red light on the left. (lightsabre?)

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:33 pm
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    More to add:

    0:34 Listen carefully…right after luke says, “my father has it”.. there’s a Vader voice over “I have it”.

    1:20-1:21 – The left side of the Chrome StormTrooper looks more like a rock formation (crashed ship or a palace/castle?)

    1:35-1:37: Weapons drawn inside the Falcon suggests Han and Chewie found it abandoned.

    • April 17, 2015 at 11:00 pm
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      I’m glad you brought this up. I noticed this voice on my 1st viewing and put on headphones to really hear it. He repeats Luke’s words each time. When he says “My father has it” the voice repeats “My father has it” as well.
      I think this voice is one of our biggest clues in this trailer and it’s going largely unnoticed. If this person is repeating these lines truthfully, then Han is ruled out as the father. That would leave Luke, right? Not Anakin, not Palpatine, or anyone else.

      • April 18, 2015 at 12:57 am
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        My head would explode that Luke is Kylo Ren……epic twist

      • April 18, 2015 at 4:35 am
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        It is obviously Lando.

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:36 pm
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    I said before they shouldn’t show all the big 3 yet. Smart marketing move. More to look forward to.

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:37 pm
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    I think the one who gets the lighstsaber is Rey, cause in one of the leaked concept arts you could see this alien, Rey, Finn and BB8 with the blue lightsaber.
    Then in one of the pictures of the concept art costume of Finn in Anaheim you can see that he has the lightsaber.
    And the BB8 of the first teaser was CGI, after seeing the real yesterday I notice that he can’t go really fast as we saw in the first teaser.

    • April 17, 2015 at 10:45 pm
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      No..it is carrie fisher…you can tell by her wrist…plus look at the outfit. it is just like the leaked art of her costume. also if you look closely, you can see that she has VERY long hair. look at her left arm as she raises it, you can see the pony tail, it suggests she is wearing a braided ponytail down her left side. look at the nails, long and pedicured. rey is a scavenger on a sand planet…she does not dress like this, nor does she have her “nails did”.

      • April 17, 2015 at 10:55 pm
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        That hand look of someone younger than carrie fisher, maybe is a flashback. And is like a younger Leia after ROTJ.
        But the Alien is actually the one with the concept art of Rey, BB8 and Finn with the lightsaber ignited.

      • April 17, 2015 at 11:33 pm
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        well spotted with Leia’s long hair. also, was Carrie Fisher drunk or just nervous during the panel appearance?

          • April 18, 2015 at 12:55 am
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            I think she was sick. She sounded like someone badly in need of Sudafed.

      • April 18, 2015 at 4:33 pm
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        Agreed my friend. People who say the hands look to young are just being dumb. For one a shot can be “cleaned up” the same as a picture can be. So her hands may look younger. Though to me they look like Carries hands straight away. The ring is also something Leia would definitely wear.

        What gives it away for me though is the body. If you freeze the frame of the hand off, you see a wide body inside those robes. Carrie was still a little chunky during shooting, and Rey is very skinny. No way its Rey.

        Its Leia.

        • April 18, 2015 at 11:50 pm
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          It’s your mom. Ok, it’s not Rey, but it’s not carrie fisher either. Maybe is a younger Leia, but that fucking alien is in a concept art with Rey, Finn and BB8.

    • April 17, 2015 at 10:58 pm
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      funny that they had to give him a pushstart to get him on stage.

      • April 18, 2015 at 11:36 am
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        Carrie Fisher also required a pushstart to get going.

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:37 pm
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    My guess is the snow planet that the Stormtroopers are on is Sullset. Makes sense considering the Star Wars: Battlefront game will have a Sullest map and the location in the game looks very similar to what’s shown in The Force Awakens teaser.

    • April 17, 2015 at 10:42 pm
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      I was under the impression Sullust was more close in environment to that of Mustafar? But that’s only from my exposure to the planet via Rogue Squadron for N64… So I could be wrong.

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:39 pm
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    120-121 Chrometrooper shot doesn’t look like blast damage to me. My guess is an Imperial installation built into rock. The ‘Evil Castle‘ location perhaps?

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:39 pm
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    My father has it – shows vaders helmet

    I have it – shows luke

    My sister has it – shows Leia

    You have that power too – whose the next four people we see? Poe, Kylo, Rey and Finn. Is this showing us that they have the Force or am I looking into it to much?

    • April 18, 2015 at 3:29 pm
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      Has anyone considered that the voice echoing Luke is Kylo Ren and all of those things are also true for him bc Luke is his father?

      • April 18, 2015 at 9:45 pm
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        “I am your son!”.

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:41 pm
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    very curious to find out why Han and Chewie have been estranged from the falcon.when he says “we are home” it has obviously been awhile since he has been onboard. Awhile back there were leaked shots of Luke in a cave. in one of the shots you can see that under his robe, the shirt he is wearing is white. i still have a feeling that the shot with him and Artoo is C3PO’s death scene…i dont see any other reason why Luke would need to comfort him..not that i can think of anyway.

    • April 17, 2015 at 11:01 pm
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      Leia is no longer surprised when Han has to leave; she is now surprised when he comes back.

    • April 17, 2015 at 11:27 pm
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      right after luke puts his hand to artoo he bows his head at the very end of the shot. with sparks going and such a forlorn feel, man, yeah its a strong possibility of funeral pyre scene.. threepio. man that would be something. it would put a twist into what we all expect. its almost toooo obvious with harrison ford, the whole world knows he wanted to die, and we all assume hes just doing the first movie. that may be or probably is the case, but hmmmmmmmmm… 😛

      • April 18, 2015 at 6:49 am
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        It’s obviously Lando.

      • April 19, 2015 at 2:05 am
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        Could be Leia’s funeral pyre. If R2 would need consoling at anyone’s funeral, it would be hers or
        Luke’s.

    • April 18, 2015 at 4:32 am
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      C3PO is an android. He can’t die. They can just fix him. Anyway it looks like another cremation

    • April 18, 2015 at 10:27 am
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      I don’t think that’s possible, it has always been said that the entire saga will be told through the eye’s of C3PO and R2D2.

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:43 pm
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    Looking great 😀

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:44 pm
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    Just my opinion but I think Luke is using the force to wipe R2’s memory by the camp fire. Note R2’s forlorn noises then he goes still as Luke touches him and then Luke lowers his head. Perhaps this is the first time R2 has had his memory wiped. Just a thought.

    • April 17, 2015 at 10:51 pm
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      Strong in the force is luke…..but not that strong, you cant wipe a droids mind with the force haha.

    • April 18, 2015 at 12:51 pm
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      Vulcan mind meld?

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:50 pm
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    JAKKU = TATOOINE

    PROOF:

    STAR WARS 7:
    http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Screenshot_31.jpg

    BATTLEFRONT:
    http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/16/1429299313-sans-titre26.png

    “Pre-order Star Wars™ Battlefront™ and on December 1st, 2015, be among the first players to experience the Battle of Jakku*, the pivotal moment when the New Republic confronted key Imperial holdouts on a remote desert planet in the Outer Rim. Taking place in the aftermath of the Rebel victory in the Battle of Endor, players will experience the events that created the massive, battle-scarred landscape of Jakku shown in Star Wars™: The Force Awakens™.”

    http://starwars.ea.com/starwars/battlefront/news/jakku-pre-order-offer

    LOOK AT THE CRASHED STAR DESTROYER, IT’S THE SAME PLANET FROM THE TEASER, AND THERE’S A SANDCRAWLER ON THE LEFT, SO JAWAS ARE ALSO ON JAKKU? NO IT’S JUST TATOOINE, J.J. ABRAMS LIES TO US.

    • April 17, 2015 at 11:03 pm
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      Jakku=dust and dirt
      Tattooine= sand planet

    • April 17, 2015 at 11:19 pm
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      They probably changed the world in the movie from Tatooine because it’s getting a little old. It was supposed to be the out of the way place. Story wise it didn’t make any sense all these major events kept happening there.

      So JJ and the writers probably changed it to Jakku. The guys at DICE are likely the last to know any of those changes. Nice find though.

      • April 18, 2015 at 7:14 pm
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        Yeah, and I’m sure things aren’t exactly welcome for our heroes, what with, you know, Leia strangling their “king” and all that…

    • April 18, 2015 at 12:04 am
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      Saying that Tatooine is Jakku is something really dumb. It has been 30 years… why can’t the Jawas migrate to another planet?

      Also, the moisture farms can be found anywhere dry, they are not exclusive from Tatooine.

      And last but not least, look at the Battlefront footage, the place is kind of rocky while Tatooine is just sand everywhere.

      Bottomline: Tatooine is not Jakku.

      • April 18, 2015 at 12:42 am
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        Hey in Star Wars A New Hope when Luke first meets Old Ben isn’t that in rocks? Saying Tattoine doesn’t have rocks is not accurate my friend. It seems very rocky in my opinion.

      • April 18, 2015 at 10:04 pm
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        Tatooine is definitely rocky. Has everyone forgotten the pod race from Episode I? They raced through quite a few rocky formations.

        With that said, I don’t think Jakku is Tatooine.

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:50 pm
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    Note the present tense-
    “My Father has it”- NOT, “My Father had it” ?

    • April 18, 2015 at 6:52 am
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      Nobody dies in Starwars. They become one with the force.

      • April 18, 2015 at 8:31 am
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        Yep, lots of Force ghost Stormtroopers about.

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:56 pm
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    Its The Resistance and The First Order. NOT Rebels and Empire…

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:56 pm
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    Chewie needs some grey…

    He looks younger than he did in RotJ.

    • April 17, 2015 at 11:10 pm
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      dude, chewie was over 200 years old in ROTJ….so why would he need to start showing grey now only 30 years later? LOLOL….all these people saying this are cracking me up…do you know anything about the OT? Chewie was in episode 3…did you see him get greyer in episode 4-5-6?

    • April 18, 2015 at 7:16 pm
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      It’s the money. All those extra servings of steak, and the top-end shampoos and pedicures…

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:59 pm
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    We are living interesting times.

  • April 17, 2015 at 11:00 pm
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    MY theory on Jakku… it looks like tatooine, everyone dresses in tatooine garb..you can see moisture vaporators, and on the battlefront page where they advertise the battle of Jakku, you can see Sandcrawlers in the picture. I am going to go out on another limb here and say that this IS probably Tatooine..but the FIRST ORDER has renamed it as they invaded it and claimed it their own. and i am wondering if they have done the same thing with Hoth as well. food for thought at least..i mean why have TWO desert planets..and TWO Ice planets in the same galaxy..we surely would have heard of those planets by now. So what J.J has told you…is true…..from a certain point of view :p

    • April 17, 2015 at 11:19 pm
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      I’m not buying it.

    • April 17, 2015 at 11:23 pm
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      While I disagree with you on not having 2 very similar planets in the same galaxy (Milky Way has 200 billion stars) – I was just coming here to make the exact argument you were. I believe the new “Empire” has renamed Tatooine to Jakku, not just because they conquered it, but to erase history and to attempt to rid the galaxy of the knowledge of the Skywalker name and the birth place of the “Chosen One” and his family. This may be a stretch, but it’s possible that the Myth of the Skywalkers (and in turn the Force) has spread since the death of Vader, the Emperor, and the destruction of Death Star I & II. Even if these reasons are inaccurate, I believe there is a state-control reason for renaming Tatooine.

      Then again…maybe it is just the Planet Jakku.

      • April 17, 2015 at 11:42 pm
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        It was stated yesterday that it’s not Tatoine.. however, it could have been renamed. I doubt it. But Tatoine seems to hold some affinity from the Force and if I was the Empire or First Order, I’d lay waste to it and rename it. Again, I doubt it, but who knows?

      • April 18, 2015 at 9:56 pm
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        Tatooine is an iconic name in the Star Wars mythology. No way would JJ change it – that would be similar to renaming Vader.

    • April 17, 2015 at 11:27 pm
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      Seriously?

      What more proof do you want, JJ said it wasn’t Tatooine and announced it as Jakku at Star Wars celebration which was watched by people all over the globe.

      It has also been linked into the new Battlfront game and promoted as DLC with its own backstory. Why would they do all this then say “surprise! actually guys it is Tatooine”.

      Speculate on something that hasn’t been confirmed by multiple sources, one of which is the company making the film.

      It IS Jakku.

      • April 18, 2015 at 12:15 am
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        Don’t believe everything you hear from JJ, he blatantly lied when he said Khan was not in the new Trek, just saying.

      • April 18, 2015 at 12:31 am
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        It could easily have been renamed, I’m not saying it was , but there is precident for it here in our own history. Istanbul vs Constantinople. Alexander the Great renamed every major city he conquered Alexandria. And I believe even the Nazis were doing that to an extent. And um Busch stadium and PNC park in the outer rim territories

    • April 18, 2015 at 7:19 pm
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      Maybe they’re pulling a Shyamalan on us.

      “Why would they want THIS planet? It’s only Jakku…”
      And then, 3rd Act, someone wipes away an old sign that says….. “Tatooine” O_o wait, THAT Tatooine, I was living on that historic place THE WHOLE TIME? How could we have been so blind? boom SCREENWRITING STYLE

  • April 17, 2015 at 11:07 pm
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    i would like to see a combination of the two teasers. some of the shots could almost go back to back (xwing sequence etc). has anyone done it?

      • April 18, 2015 at 1:22 am
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        It’s crazy just how illogical some people are… the only thing we’ve seen on celluloid is SSDs over Endor so for me (if it isn’t Jaku) it IS Endor. Either by the decimation of all that debris SSDs etc falling to the planet or an example made by this new reported super weapon!! Which obviously is subtext for how we’re destroying or own planet and moisture Vaporators are a cheap technology not uncommon through out the galaxy. and sandcrawler is a vehicle that so far we have only connected with Jawas which doesn’t have to be

  • April 17, 2015 at 11:15 pm
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    I”m really curious if Luke is talking to Rey or Kylo in the trailer….

    • April 17, 2015 at 11:21 pm
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      Ren Kylo and Rey Solo are pretty similar names.

      • April 18, 2015 at 1:37 am
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        Kylo Ren and Kira Rey. Based on the Jacen and Jaina twins. I reckon.

      • April 18, 2015 at 6:23 am
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        Really easy….sKYwalker/soLO…KYLO…..

        • April 18, 2015 at 10:03 pm
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          haha genius

        • April 18, 2015 at 11:40 pm
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          Duh. Why had I never noticed that!

    • April 17, 2015 at 11:21 pm
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      It’s a holocron that Kylo Ren is viewing and repeating in the background.

      • April 18, 2015 at 1:41 am
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        How are holocrons recorded. Does anyone know? I’ve not delved that far into the dork side to find out, but my guess is that they are basically CCTV? If so, I doubt there would be a recording of Luke’s conversation with Leia on the bridge. Make sense?

        • April 18, 2015 at 2:39 pm
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          Holocrons recorded using the force. Unless they have changed things, the ability to make Holocrons ages ago. I think one of the last people to make one was either darth bane or Revan (not sure if that’s Canon anymore)

          • April 18, 2015 at 7:14 pm
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            There is a holocron with obi wan regarding order 66 in Star Wars rebels.

          • April 18, 2015 at 11:38 pm
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            Thanks guys. Yeah, I was kinda thinking about when obi wan and yoda see anakin becoming vader. Was that a holocron, or something else? Anyways, maybe I need to do a bit more research.

  • April 17, 2015 at 11:20 pm
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    why has no one noticed the embers from the flames are consistent across the two Kylo shots and the Luke one?

    • April 17, 2015 at 11:38 pm
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      Maybe jj has replaced his love of lense flares with fireplace embers? =P

  • April 17, 2015 at 11:34 pm
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    SHE HAS A RING ON! IT’S LEIA!!!!!!!!

    • April 18, 2015 at 12:49 am
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      She has a ring on because she has the Schwartz

  • April 17, 2015 at 11:37 pm
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    Cutting lose from any digging and meaning-seeking.. this is a 2 minute example of why Star Wars makes me feel the exact same way it did when I was a kid.. I don’t even know why it does this to me, or how.. but with each morsel of the new film we are given, I am reminded what Star Wars means to me/us.. and the fear of being let down is quickly going away. I love this.

  • April 17, 2015 at 11:37 pm
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    You guys REALLY need to get a hobby…

    But I salute your enthusiasm

    • April 17, 2015 at 11:39 pm
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      This IS a hobby.

    • April 18, 2015 at 12:06 am
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      And you don’t? You’re sitting here like all of us, doing the same thing. Lmao!

  • April 17, 2015 at 11:40 pm
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    The scene of Han and Chewie at the end just made my week! The boys are back in the Falcon! The sad thing is I really think that Han Solo is going to die in this film. Lawrence Kasdan and Harrison Ford both wanted to stick with the original plan to kill off Han Solo in the original trilogy and Kasdan co-wrote Episode 7. I really do think they will both finally get their wish and here is why.

    Most good stories involving a group of people working together to defeat the bad guys involves someone dying in the group of heroes. Boromir in Lord of The Rings, Agent Coulson in The Avengers. (I know they brought him back but I’m talking just he film here) These deaths brought the remaining heroes together be in literally working together or just together in working toward the same goals.

    I believe that a new generation of Star Wars characters will need a death to bring them firmly together and the old characters will need an extra boost of motivation to get off their butts and finally save this galaxy from the Empire or First Order as it seems to be called now. Luke will especially need this motivation because I think it will become obvious that not training more Jedi was a terrible mistake.

    • April 18, 2015 at 12:00 am
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      Yeah, you’re probably right.

      And since it’s been rumored that this film is structurally like A New Hope, and therefore structurally like The Phantom Menace, the “mentor” character (Ben Kenobi, Qui-Gon Jinn), dies.

      It looks like Han is fulfilling that role in this film.

    • April 18, 2015 at 6:55 am
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      Somebody has been watching the “Special Features” section of his DVD…

  • April 17, 2015 at 11:42 pm
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    If thats the Andy Serkis character in the stormtrooper shot, he looks like has some sort of headress like Mas Amedda. Its more likely Kylo Ren with Serkis still hanging in the shadows.

    • April 18, 2015 at 2:09 am
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      Yep. Rey is definitely based on Ania Solo. But also I think on Jaina (along with her brother, Kylo Ren, based on Jacen).

  • April 17, 2015 at 11:47 pm
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    Hobby? my 80 year old mother held my hand when we saw this new Teaser she saw Darth Vaders helmet and cried…
    and for a moment it was 1983…

    it was like being reunited with family! these characters and the actors who play them are very very special.

    • April 18, 2015 at 10:44 am
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      Your 80year old grandma was 40 years about in 1977. I am almost 50 this year, and am looking forward to more Star Wars until am 80! MAY THE FORCE BE WITH US, ALWAYS.

  • April 17, 2015 at 11:51 pm
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    HOBBY? MY HOME THIS IS!!!!!!!!!!

  • April 17, 2015 at 11:55 pm
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    Rey’s Speeder in the opening shot approaching the Star Destroyer.

  • April 18, 2015 at 12:08 am
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    I’ve watched it well over 50 times now. Does anyone find it odd that the camera suddenly zooms in when the falcon and tie fighters enter the Super star destroyer?

    • April 18, 2015 at 12:30 am
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      Yes, as someone else pointed out, that stupid “documentary” or “reality television” zoom is very problematic. It goes against the feel of the entire franchise.

      Star Wars has a very “neutral” cinematography that doesn’t draw attention to itself. This one instance that tries to mimic “action news” shatters it. Very troubling.

      I really hope this film isn’t edited for crackheads, like most modern action films. Slow stuff down and give us a chance to look at something!

      • April 18, 2015 at 12:38 am
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        It’s suppose to be a mythic story, told by a invisible narrator. We shouldn’t be reminded that there’s a camera operator at all.

      • April 18, 2015 at 12:40 am
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        Lame rip-off of the new Battlestar Galactaca that doesn’t fit Star Wars.

      • April 18, 2015 at 1:14 am
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        There were quick-zooms in AotC as well, during the Geonosis battle. I don’t think many people liked them then, either, but they’re not unprecedented in SW films.

      • April 18, 2015 at 6:56 am
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        They’ve been used before in several SW films actually. Never looked right before, still don’t like it.

      • April 18, 2015 at 10:12 pm
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        One reason why I can’t stand JJ, and I REALLY hope he doesn’t direct Episode 9. I find his directorial style just doesn’t fully fit the Star Wars universe. He just has no self-control or self-awareness in terms of those goofy camera cuts.

        I think Rian Johnson will be a better fit for the Star Wars universe.

  • April 18, 2015 at 12:26 am
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    “1:14- Rey looking up at someone, skeptical and nervous”

    No, I think she’s looking skeptical and unsure because for the first time in her life, she seeing snow and holding a piece of ice.

    • April 18, 2015 at 2:41 am
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      I guess her expression can be read in different ways, but I didn’t perceive her as “skeptical and nervous” in this scene. Rather “alert and interested”, I should say. Like she is checking some vital read-out on an instrument, or seeing something both fascinating and puzzling.

    • April 19, 2015 at 8:18 am
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      To me her expression looks determined and questioning, sort of like, “Well, are you coming with me now?” It looks to me like this scene connects immediately to the hand extending to Finn.

    • April 28, 2015 at 7:41 pm
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      Agree. I think this is Rey holding ice for the first time in her life and is a bit in awe. And the shot before it shows the snow landscape.

  • April 18, 2015 at 12:30 am
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    This trailer is amazing, obviously from a visual standpoint JJ wants to give us an old but in a new kind of way feel to this film; But for me the overall attraction to this trailer other than it blew my brain were the colours (stick with me)
    The colour range and saturations and then lack of made me think of the OT, Think of ESB as a range of colours white, grey, black that gorgeous dark steel blue found in echo base (that’s just me perhaps?), then going into muted blues and greens and black of Dagoba. And predominantly white, beige, orange and various blues toward the end. The trailers colours don’t go in that order of course but they have certainly paid attention to the images we are most familiar with from the OT and layered that remembrance into this film. The PT films were gaudy for the sake of melodrama and just being designed that way, I think George alluded to this at one point in the past. The colours and grading feel grounded and natural from what I’m seeing in TFA coupled with good design and cinematography they are on a winner in my opinion.

  • April 18, 2015 at 12:38 am
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    I don’t think Han dies here because Kathy Kennedy said that Harrison will hopefully be at Celebration next year. It would be hard to celebrate Han if he is dead at the end of EP 7. You don’t kill off the hero. Just ask Shatner how that worked out for him.

    • April 18, 2015 at 1:54 am
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      However, Ian mcDiarmid and others have appeared at celebrations. Their characters are dead.

    • April 18, 2015 at 2:16 am
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      Luke is the main hero. Han is second male lead. I like Han, but it’s a simple fact. And as for deaths, Luke, Han, and Leia can all die and it won’t stop the franchise. The sequels are all about setting up the next gen heroes.

    • April 18, 2015 at 1:59 am
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      While we’re looking at Han, has anyone been able to see whether he’s wearing Harrison’s ear stud or not?!

  • April 18, 2015 at 1:44 am
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    I believe KK said that Harrison would be well in Devember when the real hype/press junkets are happening when the movie comes out.

  • April 18, 2015 at 1:59 am
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    I was convinced it was Luke’s narration but after reading other comments claiming it to be Gleeson’s character, I think they may be right.

    • April 18, 2015 at 2:06 am
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      Then he is doing a darn good Hamill impression, right down to the emphasis on words. Listen to this comparison I found. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmhwnW5tFiM
      I’m convinced it is the same audio rather than a new recording. So we haven’t even heard what Hamill sounds like as old Luke yet.

  • April 18, 2015 at 2:02 am
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    I think we get a blurry glimpse of MVS in the shot where Kylo is doing the Force hand thing. Before he turns around there is what looks to be an elderly bearded fellow in the background on his left and between him and the trooper.

  • April 18, 2015 at 2:27 am
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    The Voice over is definitely taken from ROTJ but the ‘echo’ voice that you can hear, I think, is Mark Hamill’s voice now. Totally different inflection and tone. Going by his voice in recent interviews it sounds the same. Listen through headphones and close your eyes.

    • April 18, 2015 at 2:41 am
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      I never thought of that. Brilliant!!

    • April 18, 2015 at 3:42 am
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      I think your right about the echo. Good catch. It’s hard to tell, but he seems to put emphasis more on “strong” in the echo and “my” in the original. The other lines seem too soft to tell for me.

      • April 19, 2015 at 11:33 am
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        CONFIRMED AT CELEBRATION BY MH.

  • April 18, 2015 at 2:39 am
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    That’s completely untrue you racist pig!

    • April 18, 2015 at 2:52 am
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      63rd time

  • April 18, 2015 at 3:16 am
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    Did anyone else notice that the TIE fighter blowing up the hanger is different than the other TIEs? Look at the cockpit.

    • April 18, 2015 at 4:50 am
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      It’s the same kind of TIE, just facing backwards so we see the back- rear mounted guns firing I’d guess.

  • April 18, 2015 at 4:57 am
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    In the picture where the stormtrooper was theres a guy stnding in the middle

  • April 18, 2015 at 5:05 am
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    Did anyone see the picture with the TIE fighter following the Falcon into the SSD and they circled a small object at the bottom and it was maybe two people unidentifiable? Or did they just add it in themselves?

  • April 18, 2015 at 6:17 am
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    What about the 3D IMAX at the end – is this 3D?

  • April 18, 2015 at 6:57 am
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    Anyone else notice at 1:09 that there is someone else running from the explosion on the left side of the screen?

  • April 18, 2015 at 7:24 am
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    Sooo…the orange hand is Ashoka, right?

    • April 18, 2015 at 5:15 pm
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      My thoughts too. I had to look things up to confirm, but the skin pigmentation, the frailness, nail color look right. I wish I had a better image of the face…. And she would be someone who would ‘rescue’ Anikins lightaber…

  • April 18, 2015 at 8:13 am
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    More hyped for this movie than I thought I would be. BRING IT

  • April 18, 2015 at 9:50 am
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    Dorks just a movie…looks great!!

  • April 18, 2015 at 9:53 am
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    I heard Luke slays Han and pisses in the Vader helmet causing Luke to turn to the dark side!

  • April 18, 2015 at 9:57 am
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    A previous poster stated they watched the trailer 63 times, that’s weak. True nerds watch it 100x

  • April 18, 2015 at 10:10 am
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    I remember a post from a few months ago that discussed Luke’s costume and the whole ‘dark Luke’ theory. It said that he symbolically had a black outer robe and a white inner robe (he’s a little crazy and unsettled but inside he’s still good). Now that is exactly what we see in the “I have it” figure, black robe, with a white sleeved arm sticking out. Sounds like one more rumour settled

  • April 18, 2015 at 10:22 am
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    Could Kylo Ren and Rey be the Solo twins? Pretty obvious with the names I think.
    Maybe Uncle Luke trained Kylo… but he has daddy issues and chose the dark path… his sister Rey is rebellious and runs away, goes into hiding as a scavenger to avoid the order and her twisted family, but eventually she teams up with order defector Finn, and she will try to save her brother and family. At the same time Poe Dameron is sent on a special mission from Leia to find Luke, wants him to be sure to come to the family reunion. Seriously… Cant wait to see this!!

    • April 18, 2015 at 10:54 am
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      I also thought that Kylo Ren maybe was an apprentice to Luke, fell for the Dark Side and destroyed the Academy.
      But if this is the case, why did Luke go into exile? “Hey, there is now a new Dark Jedi in the galaxy, working for the Empire. He is a massive threat to the galaxy but I go into hiding now. He is your problem now. Bye!”

  • April 18, 2015 at 10:34 am
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    looking at the on-set photo with Abrams and BB8 surrounded by all spherical barrels got me thinking that a lot of these publicitu photos could be taken in daylight before filming began at nighttime. i’m starting to think that it’s a village in Rey’s home town that gets razed by the storm troopers. she gets home from scavenger errands (perhaps meeting a crashed pilot) only to discover her “Grandfather” (MVS) has been killed and the entire town burned to ashes. she believes her parents to have died when she was quite young, but in fact she has been hidden away when weird shit started to go down across the galaxy, beginning with Luke’s abduction believed to be by a mysterious sect led by Kylo. he has discovered a way to commune with the essence of the Sith. sensing this before it happened, Luke had scoured the galaxy collecting and destroying sith artifacts….

  • April 18, 2015 at 10:48 am
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    Could it be that Luke and R2 have arrived at the scene where the flame throwing troopers have set fire to something with Kylo Ren? Not sure it is a funeral.

    • April 18, 2015 at 11:14 am
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      Very possible. But then this would mean that many things we heard are not true. Luke hiding somewhere for example.
      But maybe he is travelling around with R2. Either in order to keep his pursuers off his track or to search for someone or something.

      • April 18, 2015 at 12:29 pm
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        Maybe the planet him R2 are on is Mustafar and he is using R2 to trace his father’s footsteps since R2 never had its memory wiped.

  • April 18, 2015 at 10:50 am
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    If the person kneeling besides R2-D2 is Luke, why does he have a robotic hand?
    In Empire and ROTJ it was shown that there was skin tissue above the metal. It looked like a real hand except for the hole in it caused by the blaster shot.
    So if this takes place right after ROTJ, why did Luke “remove” the skin of his hand?
    If it does take place during a flashback, why does Luke now have a hand that does look robotic and not “real”?

    It could be that Luke lost his hand again some time before The Force Awakens and when the new heroes meet him in his exile he made a new, crude robotic hand… But then this would not be a flashback…

    • April 18, 2015 at 12:30 pm
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      He could have lost the skin somehow but then the hand would be smaller. Hmm. Maybe lost it and where ever he has it replaced doesn’t have the same technology available.

  • April 18, 2015 at 11:47 am
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    maybe Kylo Ren is actually a clone of Anikan.

    • April 19, 2015 at 3:04 pm
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      “ANIKAN”? you must really love war stars.

  • April 18, 2015 at 2:32 pm
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    Expect a longer cut of the trailer to appear at some point. Bob Iger said that he has seen “multiple iterations of it” and it is doubtful that Gloria Cheng was brought in to the recording sessions just to hit one note. can’t wait for the longer version.

  • April 18, 2015 at 3:06 pm
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    It doesn’t necessarily have to be Luke in the scene with R2. If so, I don’t think he tries to console the droid. I think he is looking for consolation. It’s obvious both witness a tragical moment. Whether it’s Han’s funeral or the destruction of a village or a temple and the slaughter of its inhabitants doesn’t matter. I think in this moment Luke realizes a many things: the time that has passed, his mistakes, the loss of family and friends and his failure. He failed in many ways, letting the dark side rise again, not helping friends etc..When he Looks at his little oldtime companion he is reminded of the past. After all it was R2 who initiated his adventures decades ago by projecting Leia’s call for help. In this moment the droid seems to be the only constant element in his life. It’s a moment of realisation and of disillusion. His mind had been clouded by fits of madness and a nightmare of beeing caught between the dark and the light side, something he seems to be destined for. He touches R2 for his own consolation. He sags. He breaks. Maybe he realizes that he’s been broken a long time ago.

    • April 18, 2015 at 3:43 pm
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      in the Celebration panel with the R2 builders, they show a photo of the Luke/R2 scene being set up in daylight. Luke is seen between R2 and JJ.

      • April 19, 2015 at 2:09 pm
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        which would mean the Campfire is indeed on Jakku.

  • April 18, 2015 at 3:13 pm
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    check out the force for change winner video. 1:34 shows Harrison Ford, or his stand-in in the background. 1:59 shows Chewbacca on the monitor. Also present in this muddy ‘castle’ environment are a bunch of Stormtroopers.

    “run, Chewie!”

  • April 18, 2015 at 3:45 pm
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    Gonk droid present in Oscar Isaac promo shot.

  • April 18, 2015 at 5:13 pm
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    I think Kylo Ren might be wicket.

  • April 18, 2015 at 5:22 pm
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    Jakku= The J and A from ‘JJ’ Abrams’ and the KK from Kathleen Kennedy, ???

    • April 18, 2015 at 6:30 pm
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      JJAKU. the U is for Universe.

  • April 18, 2015 at 6:48 pm
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    I know I’ll probably receive a lot of criticism for this, but has anyone ever considered the thought of Luke being Kylo Ren? I mean, think about it, they seem to be rather secretive about both Luke and Kylo Ren’s characters, Luke sounds a bit dark in this trailer, the only time we have supposedly gotten a glimpse of him is in the trailer as he is covered in a black hood, much like Kylo Ren, and he then reveals his machincal hand. Does anyone remember the leaked concept art that was released awhile back showing a dark cloaked figure with a machincal hand, that was supposedly the villain, holding a damaged Darth Vader mask? And there have also been many other rumors around the web that have stated Luke is darker and maybe a little menace in TFA. And with all the other possible evidence we have seen, those may not be too far from the truth. It is obvious in my opinion from what we have seen in ROTJ and the first footage of TFA, that Luke is obviously grieving his fathers death. He is obviously not himself. He could very well be turning towards the dark side because he could be filled with anger and hate, wondering why his father ever turned to the dark side, and he is angry that his father was killed. Now, I know what you’re thinking, “Luke is not Kylo Ren because there have been more rumors that have said Adam Driver’s character, presumably Han and Leia’s son, is him.” But that doesn’t mean anything. Do you think they would make a possible plot twist that obvious if it really was true? No. LucasFilm is going to do everything in their power to keep the big secrets from us, so just about everything that hasn’t been confirmed is speculation at this point. And whenever we see someone get announced to be in the film, we look at the characters already announced in the film and try to connect the dots. And sometimes we even make up new characters that they could be playing. But I think there is a possibility that Luke is Kylo Ren. What about that speech at the beginning of the trailer from ROTJ? Who is he talking to? Well, obviously someone new in the Skywalker family. Maybe Han and Leia’s possible son, or maybe Luke has a son of his own? But either way, that doesn’t mean that just because they have the force, means they are the new villain. Maybe if Luke has a son, it will be reminiscent of Darth Vader (aka Anakin Skywalker) and Luke. Remember when Vader tells Luke “I am your father.”? Maybe something like this will play out in TFA. Something similar could also play out even if he doesn’t have a son and is talking to Han and Leia’s son. But who knows at this point? It’s all speculation and my theory is just one of many.

    • April 18, 2015 at 8:31 pm
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      yeah it could be a split personality type thing. Joseph Campbell talks about Trickster Gods that change form and bring out certain characteristics in the people they meet.

      • April 19, 2015 at 2:52 am
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        I also see a lot of Arthrian legend here. The light saber that come back aka Excalibur. Shakespeare’ Hamlet with Vader’s mask. Looks like they’re (and I hope) keeping with tradition and keeping the mythology alive. If they do that, it’ll be a winner. If it’s just explosions and no depth, then it’ll be just a popcorn flick with no lasting value.

    • April 19, 2015 at 1:46 am
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      Sorry, but Luke will NOT turn to the Dark Side, only because “he’s angry that his father was killed”.

      That makes absolutely NO sense at all. Especially not when Luke did what he set out to do, which was to redeem his father, precisely. That would kill the whole purpose of the OT right there.

  • April 18, 2015 at 7:19 pm
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    Does anyone feel as though finn is the new luke I know rey lives on a desert planet and blah blah blah but we do see finn is the one with the lightsaber in the props gallery at Star Wars celebration and rey is holding a modified blaster that looks like Hans…ahhh my head is going to explode I wish it was December already 🙂

  • April 18, 2015 at 7:22 pm
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    Does anyone feel as though finn is the new luke I know rey lives on a desert planet and blah blah blah but we do see finn is the one with the light saber in the props gallery at Star Wars celebration and rey is holding a modified blaster that looks like Hans…ahhh my head is going to explode I wish it was December already 🙂

    • April 18, 2015 at 7:41 pm
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      That sounds logical. I just looked at the art from the gallery and it’s starting to make sense. When luke is talking about his family and says,”you have that power too” it could be him just talking about the force in general.

      • April 19, 2015 at 8:40 am
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        Naaaa I still think it’s rey

  • April 18, 2015 at 7:22 pm
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    The scene with Luke and R2, I think he at the place of the mayhem caused by Kylo Ren and the troops, seeing the aftermath. And I think Luke is looking for the kids, not the other way around.
    And if you look on the right side of the “leader ” at the “nazi-rally” of the first order, you can see the chrometrooper.

  • April 18, 2015 at 8:27 pm
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    or it could be a reference to JAK productions, named after Lucas’ kids.

  • April 18, 2015 at 9:06 pm
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    Looks like most of the rumors are true. I’m sure some people still are 100% unconvinced. But the scenes described in the rumors compared to the trailers appear to be spot on.

    • April 18, 2015 at 10:45 pm
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      Not really. Not even that close, actually. MakingStarWars.net gave a very detailed account of what they were claiming would be in the trailer and less than half of it turned out to be true. Which pretty much proves that they don’t have the whole truth over there. Just part of it. And a bunch of it is wrong.

  • April 18, 2015 at 10:54 pm
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    Also, let’s not forget that as of about 4 months ago Jason Ward over at MakingStarwWars.net was claiming inside sources that Luke was an evil cyborg/”monster”. Now he’s claiming that Luke isn’t even in the movie. He’s claimed a lot of stuff. He claimed he knew everything that was going to be in this trailer. He was wrong. He just throws poo at the wall and sees what will stick.

  • April 18, 2015 at 11:26 pm
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    OMG, I just realized when was the last time we did see Luke at a “campfire”??

  • April 19, 2015 at 5:34 am
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    OMG I just realized that it’s Lukes voice in the trailer, new dialog as well.
    I think that Sith person is Bobfett and he went to Tatooine to get revenge for Jabba putting him in the Sarlick pit.

    I also read Han is a clone.

  • April 19, 2015 at 8:59 am
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    Looks like the floating hand after the crawl and Han and Chewie piloting a star destroyer rumors are true.

    • April 19, 2015 at 9:56 am
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      I hope the one about the hand is wrong

    • April 19, 2015 at 10:28 am
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      How?
      That Destroyer is in a salvage yard, could have been for decades.
      The light saber falls to ground and is picked up by a farmer and ignites grass…no hand.

  • April 19, 2015 at 2:53 pm
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    But, who is the one who ‘has it’.
    It would be obvious if Rey is someones daughter but what if it is actually Kylo Ren who has the skywalker roots. (Family weakness just like grandpa Anakin)

    Or they’ll end up being twins, just like luke and leia.

  • April 19, 2015 at 5:13 pm
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    I will repeat that I think Luke is performing a memory wipe on R2 using the force. R2’s light goes from blue to red as Luke touches him. I think Luke is protecting himself & R2 by erasing R2’s memory so Kylo can’t find out where either Luke is or has been and where other Sith memorabilia is. The fact R2’s light colour changes as Luke drops his head suggests a power from somewhere and that can only be the Force. If Luke is now the most powerful Force being then a memory wipe of a simple droid won’t be difficult at all.

  • April 21, 2015 at 6:27 am
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    I think Rey is Luke’s daughter. She’s the only person that can pull him from his isolated stupor. An ROTJ twist. But she’s bringing him back, not from the dark side, but back into the civilized world, where, of course, he’ll actually have to face his fears and struggles head on. I think the little orange alien with Anakin’s saber could certainly be Ahsoka. I think she’s handing it to Leia for a practical reason… l’d love to see Leia open a can on somebody with a proper sword fight. I think Kylo/Driver’s character could be a ringer or something of a diversion in order to take focus away from the true baddie, much like Maul is. It feels like the true baddie is still in JJs mystery box. All of this is insanely fun speculation.

    • April 29, 2015 at 12:28 pm
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      I have been thinking that regarding the true villain all along. I think Ren is some kind of enforcer for the real bad guy like Vader was in the OT and he hasn’t been revealed yet. When I heard Von Sydow was cast, I hoped that he’d go all Ming The Merciless again and be the primary bad guy with Kylo Ren as his muscle. But as you say, it is fun speculating and I’m probably totally wrong!

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