UPDATE 2! Rumor: Star Wars: Episode VII Trailer Music to be Recorded Next Month by John Williams? First Teaser This Christmas?
During his concert in Milwaukee a few weeks ago, John Williams revealed that “in about two weeks” he would start working on the Episode VII score. Now a new report suggests that Williams will actually be working on the first Episode VII teaser trailer in LA next month…
A reliable source just said JW received a trailer from JJ Abrams on Monday, Oct 20. JW has already written new Star Wars music to accompany this trailer. This new trailer music will feature new music and will be recorded on November 15 in LA with full orchestra. Still determining if the score will be recorded in London due to advanced age of composer/conductor. 14 hour flight to LA not too kind on 82 year old.
This is just an unconfirmed rumor for now. Nevertheless this sounds just too exciting to pass. Especially with the following update from the same source:
UPDATE: According to an UNCONFIRMED RUMOR (posted by record producer Ford A. Thaxton on FSM), the reason Williams will start working on Star Wars: Episode VII this month might be because Disney wants to release the first teaser for the film on Christmas Day. The teaser would feature original music written by Williams and recorded in Los Angeles.
If true, this will be the best Christmas present all SW fans could have wished for. Fingers crossed. 🙂
UPDATE:
A little research suggests that Disney has a big movie set to open on December 25th, 2014 — Into the Woods. The movie musical based on the Brothers Grimm fairy tales stars Johnny Depp, Meryl Streep, and Anna Kendrick. It’s a big holiday release for Disney as they will surely want a good turnout for the big budget film on Christmas Day.
In fact Entertainment Weekly for this week has four different cover variations featuring the cast of the movie. A rumor we heard a little while ago suggested that there could be an IMAX preview trailer released on the Paramount film Interstellar (only 70mm IMAX screenings). Of course JJ Abrams has ties to Paramount via the Trek series as well as Mission Impossible. However, it seems extremely unlikely that Disney/LFL would wish to supply a rival studio with a boost to their box office by featuring their gem of a teaser before one of their movies. Instead it seems plausible that Disney would choose to unveil the teaser before one of their own features. At any rate, check out a trailer for Into the Woods and stay tuned for further developments of this exciting rumor.
UPDATE 2:
Germain Lussier of Slash Film wrote a pro v con article today speculating about the possibility that we could be seeing the much-anticipated Star Wars: Episode VII trailer this year. Basically he corroborates our reasoning:
Film placement:
Disney paid $4 billion for Lucasfilm so, you’d have to think they’d want to attach the first trailer to one of their own films. There are two Disney films hitting before the end of the year. First is Big Hero 6, which would be perfect for the Star Wars trailer. It’s a four-quadrant, family friendly action movie. But the movie also comes out in less than two weeks. Might be cutting it close if Williams is just now writing music for it.
Peter Sciretta, also of Slash Film, posted these Tweets today:
Could The First ‘Star Wars Episode VII’ Trailer Be Coming This Year? http://t.co/zomYtI4LOf pic.twitter.com/wg6j1OaWm8
— Peter Sciretta (@slashfilm) October 27, 2014
Re: Star Wars trailer — I have heard we will see it sooner than you might think
— Peter Sciretta (@slashfilm) October 27, 2014
As always, friends, take all these rumors with a grain of salt should they turn out to be false. However, we here at StarWars7News can’t help but think “where there’s smoke, there’s fire.”
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I just posted something on this in the Cantina, literally 2-3 seconds before this popped up. Impeccable timing. Lol.
Why would John Williams compose music for a trailer?
The article says it will use newly composed music for episode VII, and recording will be in November. It’s not music written specifically for the trailer.
It may very well be music recorded for the trailer. Williams has done it before: for the teaser trailer for Spielberg’s Hook.
;this would be amazing – I think the whole world will be waiting for the teaser:}
Internet will EXPLODE >!!!!!!
I already am exploding!
This is going to be awesome. Not gonna lie… I might break the internet alone with rewatches.
That would be insane. Really hope the gave John Williams enough footage to really get a feel for the film so he can capture the tone.
It’s the Christmas gift that keeps on giving… o<|8^P
Here’s a video of John Williams speaking about composing the Episode VII score. He discusses his process of writing the scores.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ4jZr1w0AI
Listening Williams speaking is like listening his music.
What a beautiful/pleasent/charming music to my ears!
PLEASE
If Avengers 2 teaser already has 40 million YouTube views, just imagine how many Star Wars will have…
It will be a day long remembered!
The teaser trailer might brake the billion views mark 🙂
If it is true Santa is a Jedi. Best christmas present ever!!!!
I don’t want new music with the teaser. I want what we all know and love. The new music will probably be great but for a first teaser to welcome the first possible look on Star Wars Episode 7, only one piece of music should be used.
I imagine he’ll give it his all though all things considered 🙂
You could always turn down the volume and substitute. 😉
Don’t watch it
Sometimes i wonder if age affects the ability to perceive speed in music. I can’t tell because im not that old yet.
But i wonder if youre able to imagine really fast musical passages with reduced capacity.
As long as there are primordial melodies that work on a minimalistic level and a lot of fast triplets for the pacing and lots of fast decorative phrases.
We could have another memorable John Williams score.
Episode VII will be the highest grossing movie ever.
I’m calling it now.
I called that shit before they went for Avatar’s time slot. I was just hoping they weren’t stupid enough to squeeze VII into May ’15. Good for them. This baby needs room to BREATHE!
DEC – FEB or MARCH! xD
Sorry, but there’s just something not appealing about going to see Star Wars in the middle of January/winter.
Don’t go then… lol
It had to be done. Summer ’15 was busy, and Disney had a rare opportunity with Dec. ’15’s window to make room for VII. It was a smart move because now they get to make even more money on their investment.
Look at it this way: Star Wars was originally supposed to be released Dec. ’76. We’re coming full circle. We’re coming home. o<|:)
Avatar II’s slot was moved… probably because of VII… Avatar II is now coming out a year later. Great time for sci-fi fans 🙂
It was announced like 1 year ago that Star Wars Episode VII would be the first to break the 3 billion $ barrier leaving James Caremon second and third postion with Avatar and Titanic.
‘it was announced’ haha oh right yeah people are always looking into the future to confirm box office results..
Actually it really is possible to make a good calculation for boxoffice results…can never be 100%… but 3 billion is right according to people who know how to make a pretty accurate guess… and it just so happens that most of their guesses have been right!
More likely it will disappoint at the BO because you guys will dispise the way it is made; instead of having too much CGI like TPM, you will think it won’t have enough episode IV tie-ins.
How much tie-in did V have with IV?
It’s funny how you pt fanboys try come up all these odd hang-ups to explain why the world at large just didn’t like those poorly written, poorly directed and poorly acted crappy movies
I have a feeling VII will be HUGE. Pairing SW with Disney I think will have a huge effect + marketing for female audience as well I’d imagine. If it’s the same cultural phenomenon that the OT was then I think it could easily beat Avatar 2.
I mean think about it this way… people went to see Avatar for the 3D & all the other technical goodies/ Cameron-a-thon, but it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. I’ve talked to enough people about unobtanium to know that it didn’t go over well. I wouldn’t count on those same people filling the theater seats.
With Star Wars we have 2x generations of SW fans anticipating it + a lot of new potential viewers who might have never been all that interested in SW before or simply didn’t have the chance to get into it.
That might include fans of Lost, the children of OT & PT fans, just all children in general (again… Disney label carries weight… my stepdaughter will watch anything with the Disney label because it = princesses)(hoping to indocrinate her with SW) + a lot of the actors involved. I could see fans of “girls” going to see the film due to Adam Driver. I could see fans of the cohen bros going to see it because of Oscar Isaac. There’s a lot of potential.
I don’t think so.
I think it could outgross Titanic, at least.
With some crazy super mass marketing geared to average movie going audiences, but in the process, driving some Star Wars fans near to the point of madness or burnout.
the trailer will be viewed a record breaking many times
Will beat james cameron down to 2nd and 3rd
Will be a good film
i go nuts for the trailer
But how can jw make a score for a trailer without all the post production stuff… cgi stuff etc
CGI work probably started prior to filming, I’d imagine they knew some of the scenes where it might be needed (background space battles for example)? (Like those seen in the background in the scene where count Dooku dies or like the scenes going on behind the windows @ the emperor’s throne in ROTJ.
I thought some of the clips seen by disney execs & others said that effects had already been done for some shots. Either way the Teaser could literally just be Darth Vader breating with stars in the background or something. Would be kind of mean of JJ but I wouldn’t put it past him.
How can you even make a score for a trailer without doing it for the entire film… it has to be the same and work the same way with the scenes right…
Some of JJ’s antics,
No antics, it seems to me. I’m guessing JW already has the major themes already composed. As I understand it, this is pretty standard operating procedure: build the major musical motifs early, and then craft the actual soundtrack as the final cut comes into focus. Presumably, then, he’ll work with the production team to arrange these in a way that’s appropriate for the trailer.
You have to at least see the imagery first. You don’t just sit around and compose without any inspiration.
First score the film finish the cgi stuff finish the film then make a trailer… no?
Anyone?
The film won’t be finished by Christmas. I think if there is a Christmas teaser, then it will have footage and music from what has already been completed.
The Dark knight rises had a teaser out before they were done filming. Also e7 is going to be heavily practical effects so there’s already alot to show. I know ep7 will have CGI too but I’m just saying.
Funny… I was just talking about the movie yesterday and I was saying: “Maybe the film edition already begun.” And today we see this.
I hope this is true. It would make the Christmas good.
I literally cannot wait. The recent leaked (on purpose?) concept art gave me the same feeling as when I first saw Ralph McQuarrie’s Return of the Jedi art in a science magazine that my mother bought me as a 7 year old boy in 1983 just prior to the release of the film. This film will become a major cultural event of our time that will allow generations of fans to come together in their love of George Lucas’s universe from a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. BRING IT ON.
This would be a perfect Christmas Present. I do want the first trailer to come soon, because that will get my friends who are on the fence talking about Episode 7!
Guys, don’t get ahead of yourselves. To the mass audience, there is not high expectations for this film. The general audience are way more hyped by the avengers sequel than ep vii. Crazy, but true. People claiming that this film will be the highest grossing movie of all time and the teaser trailer will break the internet and be the most watched trailer of all time, you really are in your own star wars bubble I’m afraid and have lost touch with reality. The attention that ep vii is getting among the general public, is people bashing it and saying how the original cast are supposedly too old and the film is going to be a terrible cash-grabbing CG fueled mess. Us star wars fans know that they are actually taking this insanely seriously and it’s going to blow us all away, but as far as the general audience is concerned, there are much more marvel fanboys than star wars fanboys. The avengers age of ultron’s teasers and trailers will get a lot more total views than ep vii’s teasers and trailers will. But I’m looking forward till epvii comes out and completely blows everyone away 😉
I agree as even some of my SW friends are not hyped yet (because of the letdown of the PT) so that means its not even on the radar of the average moviegoer.
But I say this is a good thing for everyone because JJ & Disney have to deliver with Episode 7 or older fans will bail for good. The PT had the luxury of the buildup to Episode 3 so fans kept coming back, Episode 7 won’t have that same luxury.
I would say it’s a 50/50 chance
Sadly….. this is very true…… MOST fans casual or major no matter hyped or not… and most are when this is mentioned. BUT VERY skeptical and cynical (thanks to 1,2,3) and they ALL say that “OMG i hope its better than those other ones”
I think they’ll go see it. I work with a few Star Wars fans (one guy has an R2-D2 ring tone on his phone that uses different bleeps depending on who’s calling… when the boss calls it does the R2 “scream”).
Neither of them has been keeping up with the SW news but they are definitely interested. One of them falls into “BUT VERY skeptical and cynical (thanks to 1,2,3) and they ALL say that “OMG i hope its better than those other ones””
boat. Trust me when they see the trailer they’ll be like “holy shit!”
I saw the age of Ultron trailer… I honestly thought it looked kind of shitty… not as if the movie will be bad… but like I wasn’t thinking “wow this is badass!”.
Although I reserve judgement because GOTG was far superior to it’s trailer… I honestly just went to see it to hear it with the ATMOS sound track… but I was impressed.
I think it will go ballistic…JJ & Disney won’t mess this up. They can’t afford to.
He’s already proved he can deliver an entertaining and popular mass audience Sci-Fi movie from a franchise past it’s glory days… and I think he will be going all out with EP VII as this is a labour of love for him, this matters so much more than Trek to JJ.
I truly think the team they have assembled can knock this out of the park, they’ve done everything possible from building sets, spaceships and animatronics to getting the script honed, casting..The visual FX will be state of the art and the legendary JW to score it. They can do NO MORE !!!
Expect it to at least match the 90%+ critical ratings of ST:2009.
This won’t be your Dad’s Star Wars..although it will very much look and feel like it is..but expect it to be amped up with all the very best that modern movie magic has to offer , injected with the kinetic energy that we know JJ can deliver but with a great script featuring a cast we love and care about.
This is a once in a generation chance. George couldn’t bottle lightening again when he made the PT, but that’s far enough in the past to shrug it off and let another filmmaker step up to the plate.
The nostalgia factor alone will see OT Dad’s taking their kids hoping to get some of that feeling they had when they saw the originals.
I think kids raised on the PT will finally see them for flawed workmanlike films that they are and the OT crowd will see this as the 2nd coming, a chance to be a kid again. I truly believe green men will be weeping by the time the movie is through. Not because they hated it but because JJ & Disney understand what made the OT great back when they were kids…and use that knowledge to make the the defining Star Wars movie for this generation.
I hope I am right.
I agree….I don´t care about “highest box office” or “this many downloads of a trailer” – that´s all irrelevant bullshit. I only want the story to be good and the movie to be succesfull. No need to compete or to compare to other movies. And who knows….maybe the best way is to go quietly to the highest prize…
correct who cares about records, All I know it will make a shitload of Money and I would be happy to get 2% from it.
Someone needs to clone John Williams and fast because there’s no bugger following in his footsteps!
Actually John Ottman would be a great replacement. He took Williams notes for Superman Returns. No matter what people say about that film the score is absolutely breath taking.
actually, Michael Giacchino has apprenticed under JW on more than one occasion, has ties to Disney, has ties to Abrams, and is just flat out brilliant
This all seems highly unlikely to me. A short teaser trailer by Christmas makes sense, but having Williams record for it does not. Except for the original Ep IV trailer (which was not done by Williams) and the final Ep III trailer (which very briefly had the “war drums” from the film’s opening), none of the Star Wars trailers have had original music. Each only used music from the previous films. It also makes no sense to score the film this early, with so much editing ahead, unless (and I **PRAY** this isn’t true) Williams’ health is failing.
I don’t think his health is failing, and certainly hope it is not. Considering he’s still actively doing concerts, I find this unlikely to be the reason.
this is very possible because the first hobbit teaser was released dec 2011 and set the movie for dec 2012 a year later and wat other trilogy is bigger than lord of the rings STARWARS!!!
Interstellar will have a trailer, but not the full teaser.
And it’s only on the tues night showing of the film in 70mm film. It’s about IMAX, not studio relations.
So, if the rumors are true, John Williams is recording Star Wars music on my birthday. It’s like a birthday gift that I’ll have to wait forty days to open!
It was cooler how the stormtroopers talked in ANH. There was that “click” sound before and after they said something. But in Empire and Jedi, they took that sound out. They should put that back for E7.
Anyway, I’d rather wait to hear the new music when I see E7. I don’t want to hear the new music in some fuckin trailer. It’s exciting of course but, as it was pointed out, none of the previous trailers had new music, why fuck up the tradition now?
I don’t think there will be a trailer for the observation that most films these days don’t use origial music from the film in the teaser. They tend to re-hash older music from previous films.
i know, i always wondered why they did that. New Hope troopers were the best ones
(Click) You think he’s right? (Click)
(Click)Yeah…I think so.(Click)
Several million 40’s plus OT fans are getting ready to magically revert to being eight.
I hope the ST is as good as the PT.
as goo das the PT I’ll be happy. Better, I’ll be happier.
I hope the ST’s score is as good as the OT’s.
As wonderful as the PT’s was, it lacked a powerful villainous score, like Vader’s Imperial March.
It can’t possibly be worse
Don’t jinx ’em (lolz)
I’ll totally buy tickets to Into the Woods just to see the SW trailer then I’ll walk out and do something better because Into the woods looks like the most conventional, soul killing, dutifully “progressive” (but actually just for the approval) Disney self parody that you could hope for.(though I do like that one son “So in love, so in love…”
I’m pretty much obligated to since my step daughter will want to see it… but I think the movie actually looks kind of interesting. I just hope it’s not like the Tim Burton Alice in Wonderland cuz the Depp character does look very similar. Ugh.
i think we won’t see the first trailer till the super bowl. it is more high profile and three months gives them time to get it right
The superbowl would b perfect with millions watching simultaneously around the whole world! Fuck yeaahhh!!!!
I honestly don’t know anyone who watches the superbowl (I’m outside the US).
Me neither, it’s not a big thing outside North America.
I don’t know anyone who watches soccer but that doesn’t mean people outside the US don’t watch. Also, have you ever heard of this thing called the US military? Yeah, well Im in that. I’m outside the fuckin US and me as well as many others (millions) watch the game every year. Duhhh. More accurately, I think you must referring to the nerd community who don’t watch.
Have you ever heard of ratings? Check out Superbowl ratings AND the viewership from outside the US and then explain “no one watches outside the US because I don’t know anyone who does.”
No one said that nobody watches outside the US, just that it’s not the big deal it is world wide compared to the US audience.
http://qz.com/171174/putting-the-global-perspective-into-the-superbowls-massive-tv-audience/
Sorry, but these are the articles that I find when I googled your suggestion. Ratings are at a few million outside of North America. http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/02/05/super.bowl.viewers.profit/
This is one classy ignorant american. No wonder you ended up in the military.
Just read the title of the article you linked:
“Super Bowl is king at home but struggles on world stage”.
This is classic non-Americans who can’t comprehend. No wonder you have no friends
Exactly! A few million outside the US.
Your comment was “no one”
No one versus a few million is a big difference.
Thanks for confirming the facts.
I don’t think you understand the original comments.
The Super Bowl + Internet (mostly non-Americans).
Superbowl? I need one of those for my spaghetti.
Because it’s StarWars, and whether liking or not the direction is taking, it’s actually getting bigger than ever.
Ironic, since Marshall (director of Chicago, Memoirs of a Geisha, Nine, PiratesOFTC4, and….Into The Woods) has been meeting about directing Ep9.
He definitely has the coordination and visual chops to pull it off.
Not to mention being the closest thing to a female director well probably get 😉
Give it time. 🙂
PLEASE SAY IT AIN’T SO! That list conjured up a relentlessly generic and forgettable succession of film stills in my mind. Sounds like this trilogy might be over before it’s begun. );
“Theyre both so young”
Ha! Kathy is like 60 and JJ’s almost 50.
I guess to an 82 year old everybody’s considered young.
Teaser, huh.. Super Bowl commercial??
3 key points here….
1. This will be a teaser. I doubt there will be much that can be gleaned from the teaser. The 2nd and primary trailer will likely come out in May (May the 4th be with you). As we get closer to the release date more trailers will come out.
2. This is what I predicted. After the wrap party things will go quiet and then they will have to get something out fast as the extras and crew who have nothing to loose will start to talk.
3. Keep in mind Disney owns ABC. The Disney morning Christmas special is nothing more than a 2 hour long advertisement for the various Disney projects to attract customers for the coming year. This would be the perfect time to put out the teaser.
I really hope it’s true… goosebump central for me this X mas if it is.
If you go with JJ’s previous track record & that of SW in general… it might still be a long time before we even get a teaser or a title. SW trailers & titles usually come out 5 months prior to release, not a full year. Same with JJ… Into Darkness teaser came out just a few months prior to release. I’d love to be proved wrong though!
I’m dying for something official from JJ… I don’t like seeing the leaks because I have zero willpower + getting the leaks officially from JJ gives me the bumps, but I feel like the last few JJ “reveals” were just too obscure or “duh we knew that” to get me that excited. When He did the first force for change video with the alien walking behind him… man that was badass. Like… could you imagine how cool it would be to have JJ post a video of himself infront of a desert full of downed Star Destoryers as opposed to seeing the concept art?
I agree ..the Superbowl is pretty meaningless to the non-US audience.
Here in England they just had a game at Wembley and I didn’t even hear about it until it was over.
Premiership football has a much wider audience..you see folks in Man Utd & Barcelona shirts everywhere around the world.
Football (soccer ) is the only truly popluar global sport
Man Utd? Barce what? Wtf is that?
See? wats popular for u, is completely ignored in America. It works both ways. Soccer isn’t even broadcast on a MAJOR network in the states. U kno why? no one watches. U can only watch that boring crap on secondary cable channels
Okay, boys. Put your penises away… ^_-
I can already see it. After dishing out cash for a ticket to Into The Woods, an entire row of guys simply get up and quietly exit the theater following the trailer.
What’s Super Bowl ? Baseball or football?
American Football. Baseball’s American equivalent is the World Series, just in case you wanted to know.
I imagine it will be like the first JJ Star Trek teaser and not have actual footage from the movie but touch on something iconic.
I wonder if John Carter would have fared any better had it opened in Dec. Who knows. I just know from an actor’s point of view, to be a relative unknown and be cast in a movie of that size and then it tanks…..talk about a mood swinging blow to the ego.
John Carter was a terrifically fun movie. Very much under-appreciated and underrated.
What movie were you in?
I think it’d be really cool to start the trailer off with 15 seconds of showing the most important parts of the past 6 movies to the sound of “Dual of Fates”
Then screen cut to black and music stops.
Then we see Luke in the distance, looking outward drawing on the force and as the camera slowly focuses in on Luke we hear “Binary Sunset”
Nice little teaser till an official one comes out a few months later.
Excellent!
I will still never understand why people hated the prequels so much…
Then you must not have seen the prequels…
Because if you have seen them then how in the world could you not understand the prequel hate?… that would just be so weird.
Meow Mix:
Even if you enjoy the PT, how can you be so clueless as to why some people don’t?
What sw7 needs is the biggest movie poster in history… that way people will really notice and think this has to be big i must go see this movie
Just cover the wall of the cinema with a sw7 poster from cealing to floor…from wall to wall…
Yeap. Even the worst movies in the 80’s have better posters than today.
Modern posters are simply stupid, without any kind of art or even a minumum of work on it.
I hope they’ll call some artist and not just a photoshop user(with all due respect to all of the photoshop artists). But the posters of nowadays is just generic and strange. Even the prequel trilogy(that I love) posters were elegant and beautiful.
One example is the Hobbit posters, that’s awful.
Absolutely agree.
I hope the trailer is dark ..just Luke in his cloak , we dont even have to see his face – just a little bit of his beard. Then he extends his lightsaber…the end. Cool 🙂
Look people Disney isnt going to put a teaser trailer on regular tv. The sound and visuals are what “wet the pallet” and can only be done right in a theater. I have little doubt that there will be a teaser trailer in December, but it will be during a movie premiere.
It wont happen on a TV special or the Super Bowl.
Episode I teaser was on TV… I remember it clearly because the news put it on prior to the end of the news hour & I recorded it on my VHS. lolz.