Star Wars Rebels Review: An Inside Man + Rebels Recon. What Did You Think?

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Rebels has had an interesting two weeks considering the episodes they have released have been heavily criticized one way or another. In a long season of 22 episodes, I think we can all agree that they all can’t be 10/10, but these lackluster episodes introduce the fear that the series could be in a slump, like a struggling power hitter in baseball. Does Thrawn actually do something in this episode? Does the episode, in an obvious way, move the overall season narrative forward? Let’s find out!

 

 

SPOILERS BELOW!!!!

 

 

What worked for me:

 

  • Grand Admiral Thrawn

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I think this episode will be a relief for a number of fans starting to get concerned that Thrawn might be going to waste on this series. Thrawn’s presence is immediately felt and he’s not playing around. We also get to see him analyzing art, which will make all his hardcore fans happy, but it also hints at what might be coming down the road for the rebels and an eventual confrontation with the Admiral. He’s close to figuring out who Fulcrum is…and it might not be a good thing for said character. Speaking of Fulcrum…

 

 

  • KALLUS IS FULCRUM!!!!!!! WOW!!! (sarcasm)

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It was obvious since we first heard the new Fulcrum’s voice who he was, but it in no way dilutes his impact on this episode. Kallus could be turning into Rebels’ most interesting character behind Kanan. My main question is when will he finally flee the Empire? He better get out quick because Thrawn is set to find out who he is sooner or later and that makes me REALLY nervous for Kallus. I could see the creative team killing him off to push the stakes of the show without killing one of the Ghost Crew and that would BUM ME THE HELL OUT!

 

 

  • The Tie/D Defender

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I’ll admit that I don’t have any feelings on the Tie Defender making its way on to the show, but I do continue to love the fact that the Rebels creative team is putting in a ton of EU creations in this season.

 

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The Tie Defender first showed up in the Tie Fighter video game that came out in the 90’s, so it’s a deep cut for the show to put it on here. You can also see it on the latest DLC for Star Wars: Battlefront.

 

 
What didn’t work for me:

 

  • The Rebels as Stormtroopers

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It’s not that this is an awful story idea and that it didn’t work for this episode, but it’s getting repetitive. I have zero ideas what they could have done instead, but I do think that this needs to stop at some point. And let’s stop the sneaking around and put the wars in Star Wars, right? This is admittedly a nit pick too, btw.

 

 

 

Quick Hitters:

 

  • I believe the painting (or whatever the hell it is) behind Thrawn is a Mandalorian from the old Tales of the Jedi comics!!!

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  • This Landspeeder is just a little off of Luke’s and it’s bugging me for some reason. Just looks…off.

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  • I love these helmets.

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I think for most fans that this episode will be a rebound episode. It’s driving the overall story forward, is finally showing how brutal Thrawn can be, and it’s setting up some interesting storylines that will be coming up in the second half of the season. As I said earlier, I am EXTREMELY nervous for Agent Kallus.

 

As always I look forward to reading your thoughts, reactions AND corrections.

 

Paul

 

You can follow me on Twitter @Hermann22

 

 

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Also the latest episode of Rebels Recon has been released. Tell us what you thought about the episode in the comments section and check out StarWars.com’s new video Rebels Recon #3.08: Inside “An Inside Man”.

 

 

 

 

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89 thoughts on “Star Wars Rebels Review: An Inside Man + Rebels Recon. What Did You Think?

  • December 4, 2016 at 4:10 am
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    Much better episode than the past few week by far (although I’m considering any episode without Mart a half decent episode now). This was the best representation of Thrawn from the novels too. It’s nice to have the TIE Defender canon now. Fun ship to play with back in TIE Fighter.

  • December 4, 2016 at 5:25 am
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    Saving Kallus = no problem for Iron Squadron

    • December 4, 2016 at 8:49 pm
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      XD Drop boxes on them in SPAAACCCEEE.

  • December 4, 2016 at 5:40 am
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    Thrawn let’s the go a bunch of times, now he tries to stop them and he can’t… I’m thinking they should have showed him once or twice, brought him in for a big victory and then sent him away again…he’s not coming across as a great tactician, though he is still cool. This small Rebel crew also gets away with too much, they should just stroll up to the Emperor and kill him, seems like they can’t be touched.

    Gotta say though, I LOVE the Tie Defender…now we need to see some Victory Class Star Destroyers.

    • December 4, 2016 at 1:34 pm
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      The reason they got away wasn’t because of Thrawns incompetence, it was because Kallus assisted them from within.

    • December 4, 2016 at 8:29 pm
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      Same thing happened in the Thrawn Trilogy. He was great against faceless people, but when he ran into Han Leia or Luke, he got his ass kicked each time. Even his victories were met with great losses.

      • December 4, 2016 at 8:48 pm
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        But he was still winning the entire series, right up until the end where the odds were still in his favor but not as great. I remember Pellaeon saying when he took control of the Chimaera that Thrawn would most likely have been able to win a victory against the New Republic fleet but he knew he wouldn’t be able to and issued the retreat.

        • December 4, 2016 at 10:19 pm
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          He might have, but that was Pellaeon’s thoughts, not fact. And Thrawn himself seemed rather grim at the time.

          He was winning, but had also lost several times, so it’s still consistent. He wasn’t unbeatable.

    • December 4, 2016 at 8:49 pm
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      I don’t think he really tried to stop them. I think he was feeling out Kallus.

  • December 4, 2016 at 5:47 am
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    Is anyone else a bit puzzled at the attempts to give Thrawn an “old Hollywood vampire” undertone? His voice sounds very much in the vein of an elegant, Bela Lugosi style bloodsucker, and that haunted-house organ music under all of his scenes is just too spot-on by half.

    It just seems a bit odd as a characterization choice, IMHO. Maybe it’s just me, though.

    • December 4, 2016 at 11:22 am
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      I’m finding I almost have to turn the volume up to understand what he’s saying. Maybe I’m getting old…

      • December 4, 2016 at 2:10 pm
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        Glad I’m not the only one. I actually watch about everything with subtitles now. So that helps. Lol.

        • December 4, 2016 at 3:27 pm
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          It’s testament to the franchise that those of us that were kids when the first film came out are now becoming an ageing generation – And the damn thing is still popular!

          • December 4, 2016 at 10:06 pm
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            Boy howdy! (Now, where are my confounded reading glasses…)

        • December 4, 2016 at 8:24 pm
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          Might try that, resorting to watching again with no kids around and tv volume up at the moment 🙂

      • December 4, 2016 at 8:55 pm
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        He’s doing it on purpose, he doesn’t you to hear how evil he actually is.

        • December 4, 2016 at 9:11 pm
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          They certainly have the tone and menace in his voice spot on. Its probably the distractions in the house that spoils overall effect. Tempted to read the Thrawn novel at some point.

          • December 4, 2016 at 9:30 pm
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            Is it out yet?

          • December 4, 2016 at 10:34 pm
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            Don’t know to be honest, but I’ve a massive back log to get through first. Is it for xmas release, or end of Rebels season maybe.

          • December 5, 2016 at 3:22 am
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            Thank you.

        • December 5, 2016 at 5:23 pm
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          Horrifyingly apropos these days…

      • December 4, 2016 at 9:13 pm
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        LOL!! Same here.

        “I think he said something about… blessed are the CHEESEMAKERS.”

        • December 4, 2016 at 10:14 pm
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          Life of Brian – YES!

    • December 4, 2016 at 12:44 pm
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      Having watched the classic animated Dr. Seuss’ “How the Grinch Stole Christmas!” in the last week, I actually find myself hearing Thrawn as Boris Karloff’s narrator / Grinch (!)

      • December 4, 2016 at 9:10 pm
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        Yep! Karloff and Lugosi are exactly who I think of when Thrawn speaks. (And man, that old Grinch cartoon is still one of my favorites around this time of year. It was so well done, and I’ve always really dug Dr. Seuss’ word play, ever since I was little.)

        I also agree about Clancy Brown. An old favorite actor of mine, and I always like to see them bring the Ryder character into the mix when they do a Lothal episode.

        • December 5, 2016 at 6:34 pm
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          It’s the little things…

          In Rebels, it’s the really great stable of rotating voice talent – from the main cast, to A-list cameos (Billy Dee, James Earl Jones), to recurring characters (Katee Sackhoff, Kevin McKidd, Mr, Brown, etc.), to our old faves like Dee Bradley Baker & Sam Witwer), they KILL IT consistently – such a nice job!

          And on subtle nuggets & The Grinch: Read & enjoy…

          http://magazine.uc.edu/famousalumni/tv/grinch.html

    • December 4, 2016 at 8:41 pm
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      I think they’re trying to impart the idea that his threat, like that of a Vampire, is cloaked in mystery and subtlety. There has to be an episode where he rips the Rebels up terribly. It makes no sense otherwise to just have him hovering about being menacing without a pay off.

      One should note; in every episode he’s in where the Rebels “win” he usually makes a comment about continuing to learn from his adversaries.

      His studying Sabine’s art does not bode well for the crew of the Ghost.

      Hopefully, anyways.

      • December 4, 2016 at 9:05 pm
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        “I think they’re trying to impart the idea that his threat, like that of a Vampire, is cloaked in mystery and subtlety. ”

        I think that’s exactly what they’re trying to impart, it’s just that between the 1930s Universal Pictures style vampire voice and the fact that an old pipe organ starts playing in the background whenever Thrawn is onscreen, the whole thing just seems a little on the hamfisted side to me.

        As for the fact that he ends up with egg on his face every time he appears to have the Rebels in his grasp, I agree – he’s playing the long game. He even said at one point that he’s not trying to stop one Rebel cell, but the entire Rebellion. I think it’s pretty obvious that at some point here he’s going to have his big “Everything that has transpired has done so according to MY design” moment. I just hope that the series writers have something slick and unexpected in mind for that.

        Because, of course, we all know that whatever Thrawn’s big long-term plan is, it’s destined to fail – so whatever the big final confrontation between Thrawn and the Rebels ends up being, it needs to come down to the Ghost crew hanging by a thread and avoiding defeat through some last desperate “hail Mary” play.

        And yes… Thrawn studying Sabine’s art is definitely going to be a big part of it.

        • December 4, 2016 at 9:33 pm
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          He knows who Sato is, and made a point of stating he now understood what would draw him out. He may very well end up decimating all of Phoenix Squadron as his coup de grace for the season.

          Originally when this show was released they said it was going to show how the Rebel Alliance formed. But now that honor is apparently going to Rogue One. So it would make sense to have Thrawn completely destroy their cell to show a colossal setback for the fledgling Rebellion.

          • December 4, 2016 at 10:06 pm
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            Actually, since the events of Rogue One take place almost immediately before the events of ANH, I suspect what we’ll see in the new movie will be an established (though young) Rebel Alliance and not the formation of the Rebellion.

            I’m pretty sure that Thrawn has said that the Ghost crew and Phoenix Squadron are only a means to an end for him to ultimately take out the entire Rebellion. I may be wrong about that. But obviously he’s got to fail at that, and do so in such a way that he’s either dead or at least a total non-issue by the time the events of the OT roll around.

          • December 5, 2016 at 3:23 am
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            I swore they’ve discussed somewhere in all this news provided to us on this site that Edwards..or someone close to the production stated that the Rebel Alliance proper forms in the film. I may be wrong though.

      • December 5, 2016 at 6:56 am
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        Makes sense to me, never did read the Thrawn trilogy but from what I’ve heard he pretty much did the same thing from time to time in the books.

    • December 5, 2016 at 7:00 am
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      I feel like that’s a bit of a tradition with Star Wars villains, as we know from the films, Lucas did like to hire actors known for their roles in classic horror films (Christopher Lee, Peter Crushing). In the films, you can even draw those parallels, like when Vader in Ep.III takes his first steps, cheesy or not, you can’t help but get that “Frankenstein” vibe.

  • December 4, 2016 at 7:29 am
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    i have to disagree with the author. thrawn is present but his presence is still lacking. he again is easily foiled by the heroes, he again is preaching patience without hint of an overall strategy and worst of all is casually killing people. thats great that he is studying art but the real thrawn would have unleashed an awesome strategy and had the rebels on their heals by now. this thrawn is a threat to no one but old men.

    other than that though the episode was enjoyable. 😉

    • December 4, 2016 at 11:26 am
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      Yeah he doesn’t come across as a real threat. Could of been used more in other episodes, maybe Hera could of been held into another episode instead of being rescued at the end of a single episode before.

      3rd series is going to require a sacrifice of a major character to make the Rebels feel vulnerable, though its a kids cartoon so it might not happen.

    • December 4, 2016 at 8:39 pm
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      At this point I have to assume there’s going to be an episode in the second half of the season that is his “The Empire Strikes Back” moment. He may actually be carried on to season four as well, so perhaps it will come at the end.

      • December 4, 2016 at 9:27 pm
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        maybe. i think part of the problem is that thrawn is a global character who’s at his best dealing with big picture military or political stuff, while rebels is specifically about one crew and one cell of the rebellion. which is why i think the inquisitors and vader worked so much better, they are action characters.

  • December 4, 2016 at 9:48 am
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    I really liked this episode. I thought they were mentioning the Death Star until I was surprised by the Tie Defender popping in! I continue to love the EU love they’re putting into this show, it’s probably my favorite part.

    • December 4, 2016 at 3:23 pm
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      I expected the new TIE from Rogue One.
      Never really was a fan of the “Tri-fighter”!

    • December 4, 2016 at 4:18 pm
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      Again though, we’re getting into the problems of why we never see these ships in the films, such as the final battle in ROTJ. On a side note, I loved the old Tie Fighter PC game, that the Defender came from. I still have a complete in box copy of the Deluxe CD version.

      • December 4, 2016 at 8:28 pm
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        That’s not a problem. We only see 3 battles in the OT. Would you expect to see every kind of military vehicle and equipment in 3 battles with America? Highly doubtful. It’s not an issue at all.

        • December 4, 2016 at 10:02 pm
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          Given that two of the three battles we see in the OT are against the Empire’s ultimate weapon, it does seem odd that they would have all of these elite starfighters and then defend their big secret project mainly with disposable little TIEs.

          If the Russians had tried to launch an air strike against a secret NACA research facility in the early 1950s, do you think we’d have tried to fight them off with F4F Wildcats?

          To me, this is always where SW prequel stories have always been problematic. Production design can never get away from the understandable need to always go bigger and better, even though the proper way to approach a prequel story is to do retrograde designs instead.

          I have to say, I think it’s been a mistake for SW: Rebels to be focusing on starfighters like the A-wing and the B-wing, which then vanish from the Rebel arsenal until ROTJ. Prior to ANH, the Rebellion should be flying the same patched-up old snubfighters we see in the Battle of Yavin, with the slicker, more advanced craft only arriving on the scene once the Rebellion has gained support and has the funding and connections to get upgraded starships.

          • December 4, 2016 at 10:18 pm
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            The Empire is known to be arrogant. And if some of these TIEs are specialized, it wouldn’t seem odd at all.

            The Rebel cells are spread out and they don’t unite for a giant battle UNTIl RoTJ. So, again, it makes sense to me.

          • December 4, 2016 at 10:51 pm
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            So, the main Rebel base on Yavin (the destruction of which is going to “crush the Rebellion with one swift stroke”, as we’re told) is stuck with beat-up old flea-market snubfighters like X-wings and Y-wings while little cells off in the middle of nowhere are sporting advanced starfighters and weapons systems?

            Sounds like some pretty sloppy retconning to me.

          • December 5, 2016 at 12:59 am
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            Perhaps they are, but it doesn’t seem sloppy to me. It was always there if you pay attention.

            The Rebels have a cell (where high command apparently is) on Yavin. They then flee and find a new base on Hoth where the Empire whips their ass. They learn a lesson that they shouldn’t have one single base, but should go back to their original strength of cells and split assets so the Empire can’t wipe them out in one shot like almost happened on Hoth.

            But when the chance for the Death Star and a shot at the Emperor (this was his plan, to draw them out in one massive force to wipe them out in one fell swoop like they almost did at Hoth, but haven’t been able to do since), they combine all assets for this attack and a chance to end the war.

            None of this has anything to do with retconning. This is how I’ve seen it since I was a kid, before the prequels ever came along.

          • December 5, 2016 at 2:36 am
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            TL;DR I don’t find it sloppy at all, just different from explanations put forth in the Legends canon.

            I also think you’re confusing A-Wings as being advanced, when they just serve a different purpose. The difference between an F-18 and an F-14, for instance. A-wings are fast, but they are not as hearty as X-Wings. They’re dogfighters and escorts. X-wings are multipurpose fighters, and Y-wings are specifically bombers.

            The post-Disney story group has shown more hints that the Rebels are opportunists and slowly coming together from a variety of isolated insurgencies, taking whatever equipment they can find. A and B wings coming about because the rebels are better funded by RotJ was an old West End Games invention that is no longer canon.

            It could simply be that “crushing the rebellion with one swift stroke” would have been possible because a) the DS1 was about to destroy an entire Rebel stronghold planet and b) Princess Leia and other high ranking figures would be part of the casualties.

          • December 5, 2016 at 2:29 am
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            I feel that the LFL Story Group has done a decent job of plugging the potential plotholes of why we only see X and Y wings in ANH. They’ve been fairly explicit that at this point in the war, Rebels are still primarily functioning via isolated cells; it isn’t until RotJ where they gather all the fleets for one desperate attack on the DSII.

            This season we saw the ghost crew steal the Y-wings that would be delivered to Yavin IV. There is only one B-wing at the moment, a prototype that has to be reverse engineered. Lothal Rebels use A-wings, Yavin IV Rebels use X-wings. Dave has said that the eventual introduction of the X-wing will be a big deal, and hopefully it also closes any remaining narrative holes.

          • December 5, 2016 at 7:23 am
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            LOL To which I mostly 90+% agree… but remember a DAMN GOOD pilot in a F4F was non other than a MOH recipient, Gen. Joe Foss!

            But yes the other technical aspects are nonsensical to expansion of linear timeline possible outcomes

          • December 5, 2016 at 5:19 pm
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            It’s definitely a bit sloppier logic but not too far out of the realm of possibility.

            The B-Wing is just a prototype, which is convenient for the timeline. In Rebels, we have only seen Alderaanian sourced cell at this point, using A-Wings and their own ships. I highly doubt a military build up of A-Wings by Alderaan would be overlooked by Palpatine. They only go into production in other parts of the galaxy after the planet goes boom and the Rebels become a Rebellion with full material support of Mon Cals, etc.

            The Yavin cell – considering Dodonnas flowing robe, appears to be Mon Mothma’s Chandrila (adjective version needed?) rebel cell that has the X-Wings that will recruit Jyn and strike the base in Rogue One. Maybe they’ll throw us a bone in a few weeks!!!! Ahhhh!

            Also, we don’t know if TIE Ds are even produced, right now its just in design phase that Imperials don’t seem keen on revealing to one another, let alone the galaxy.

      • December 5, 2016 at 8:08 pm
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        I never see that as an issue personally because the origtrig honestly only told us a like 6 hour chunk of that world. If you saw only 6 hours of WW2 footage, would you be surprised to learn they had more weapons in other places? and that’s just on our one planet!

  • December 4, 2016 at 3:03 pm
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    Not a bad episode. At least it felt a bit more relevant to the overall story.
    Although it is hard to hear Thrawn when you’re watching with your kids!
    Pretty sure the mandalorian painting was in clone wars too?

  • December 4, 2016 at 4:12 pm
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    The Defender is now canon. Let’s see it in a movie now.

    • December 4, 2016 at 6:23 pm
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      It was already canon.

      • December 4, 2016 at 8:36 pm
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        No, no it wasn’t.

        • December 5, 2016 at 5:10 pm
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          They were in the canon games Battlefront and Commander.

          • December 5, 2016 at 6:20 pm
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            You are correct! I forgot it popped up in the Death Star DLC and I didn’t play commander long enough to see it.

            Video Games are indeed canon.

      • December 4, 2016 at 9:31 pm
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        I thought the old LucasArts games are now a part of Legends?

        • December 4, 2016 at 9:34 pm
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          They are.

          • December 4, 2016 at 10:39 pm
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            And the Defender was introduced in the TIE Fighter PC game (1994)

          • December 5, 2016 at 3:22 am
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            Si. Expansion, actually. If memory serves, the TIE Advanced was the most bad ass thing you flew in the core game.

          • December 5, 2016 at 5:12 pm
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            Nope. You get to fly TIE/Ds with Darth Vader in the last couple of mission in the vanilla game.

            The expansions introduced beam weapons and the Missile Boat.

          • December 5, 2016 at 6:19 pm
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            You’re right. I remember now. Thank you for the correction.

    • December 4, 2016 at 8:37 pm
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      I’d rather safely see it in a cartoon then on the big screen. The Defender defies much of conventional wisdom (I dare not call it lore since it isn’t canon) about why the Empire employed the TIE Fighter to begin with.

      • December 4, 2016 at 9:34 pm
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        If they can have elite stormies with the Death Troopers, why not have some elite pilots fying something with more fire power, speed, and actual shields, so they can last longer than 10 seconds in battle?

        • December 4, 2016 at 9:42 pm
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          Star Wars ‘Wisdom’ has explained that the Empire likes to focus on capital ships and super weapons, like Star Destroyers and the Death Star.

          The gentlemen (and now ladies) who make the decisions in the Imperial Navy on where their budget is spent prefer to dump their credits on big guns rather than Starfighters.

          TIE’s are cheap and expendable because even the Empire has a finite amount of resources, and the Navy prefers to see those resources spent on big guns.

          A starfighter like the Defender is extremely expensive, even more so than an X-Wing or B-Wing (Per wisdom). To deploy them in any number would be expensive. Although in Recon, one of the fellows says that they wouldn’t need many to counter the Rebellion, which is an accurate statement as in Star Wars wisdom the TIE/D is a mean son of a bitch.

          The TIE Fighter Corp does have elite pilots, but they are few and far between. This is because a TIE that actually see’s combat is likely to explode into a ball of visual FX fire as it’s really designed to do. They rely on sheer numbers rather than effectiveness.

          The other problem with even a handful of TIE/D’s is where to employ them in the galaxy? The Rebellion is everywhere, whether it’s Alliance cells or paramilitary dissidents. The Empire is still better of sending the traditional siege platform of a single Star Destroyer with its complement of 10,000 Stormtroopers and wing of standard TIE Fighters, Interceptors, and Bombers.

          This ‘wisdom’ evolved as it explains why the only real advantage the Rebellion has exists in the first place. The Alliance’s starfighter corp has experienced pilots who are able to survive combat and gain status as veterans which makes them a deadly fighting force.

          • December 5, 2016 at 5:12 pm
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            Its also a throwback to Nazi Germany.

            Invented a ton of cool weapons, like the first assault rifle and tanks that were absolute Death Stars compared to what the Allies were using. However, their army still used the Mauser 1908 model rifle and couldn’t repair Tiger tanks effectively enough on the battlefield for them to turn the tide.

          • December 5, 2016 at 6:19 pm
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            Bravo! This is correct as well 😀 Star Wars Nerds UNITE.

  • December 4, 2016 at 4:22 pm
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    If I remember correctly, the Defender was the one with a visual cloaking device (think Romulan Warbird), and protecting it from the rebels cost Darth Vader an entire Super Star Destroyer. The rebels stole it anyway, only to have it self destruct before it could be analyzed.

    The favoritw part of that game for me was head-shooting stormtroopers while fighting to the hangard deck of the Star Destroyer.

    • December 4, 2016 at 5:43 pm
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      The ship with cloaking device was the TIE Phantom from Rebel Strike 2 videogame.

      • December 4, 2016 at 8:36 pm
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        Wasn’t it Rebel Assault II?

        • December 4, 2016 at 8:59 pm
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          Yeah it was Rebel Assault II, not sure why I wrote strike instead.

  • December 4, 2016 at 8:46 pm
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    I liked it. I know everyone complains about filler episodes, but they do usually connect across the seasons and within them, they’re just not back to back.

    If nearly every episode focused on the main story you’d still see little progress. It would be like Lost, with minute clues from week to week with the occasional pay off, that would leave more clues as to what would happen next. There wouldn’t be a great sense of moving forward in the story as it would trickle in slowly.

    It’s pretty obvious that their arc with Kanan and Ezra is either not fleshed out entirely (They still don’t exactly know where they’re going with them) or is fairly simple and short. Either way, they’ve decided to give us 3-4 episodes with that arc which are huge and exciting in scope every season.

    The show is supposed to be about a rebel cell fighting the Empire and this is the bulk of what we get. But Rebels was thrown together fairly quickly and I believe it’s lack of direction from the start is really beginning to hinder it based on fan complaints on this site. It’s a shame, but I still enjoy it for what it is.

    • December 4, 2016 at 9:34 pm
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      the season two finale and season three premiere raised the bar so much that i think going back to the “filler” eps is too big of a drop. they are almost a victim of their own success. i still like the show and cast, but it is definitely frustrating as well.

      • December 5, 2016 at 5:09 pm
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        I think there just needs to be more 90 minute ‘Saturday afternoon movie’ specials from Star Wars in general. It would keep more of us engaged because those are fun and they can cover a lot of characters. And its a testament to the type of genre that Star Wars is really rooted in – serialized sci-fi action adventure.

  • December 4, 2016 at 11:04 pm
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    After this episode, I think Dubrovnik could be Lothal in EVIII. Well, at least is what i see during the landspeeder chase in the beginning. 😉 The streets seems exactly the same.
    Old imperial factories controlled by who…?
    I think AT-AT should look like the Rogue One ones, with the yellow side. But probably is me.
    Good episode, better than last 3 ones

    • December 5, 2016 at 11:52 pm
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      The Rogue Ones are not actually At-Ats. They are At-ACTs… all terrain armored cargo transports. They are designed to move heavy cargo around while offering some kind of protection.

      • December 6, 2016 at 5:54 pm
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        You’re absolutely right. Thanks for the appreciation.

  • December 5, 2016 at 3:33 am
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    Much better than the previous couple of installments. I felt like I was watching the progression of the show’s arc again.

    • December 5, 2016 at 6:44 am
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      Agreed. The last two had me concerned. I guess we will also have two (one?) more episode that should be good as well, given the mid-season finale.

  • December 5, 2016 at 3:34 am
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    Way better.

  • December 5, 2016 at 6:52 am
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    After the last two disappointing episodes, It’s good to see the series get back on track with something more serious and engaging to the main plot. Some pretty intense scenes, good humor, good action, let’s keep the pace…please.
    While I would like to see more “war” in my Star Wars Rebels, I think for now it makes sense with all of this covert/spy missions going on. The Rebel cells are still not in their prime when compared in Ep.IV; it’s more about maintaining precious numbers and gathering information against their enemy at this point. I feel that as we draw closer to the end of the series, there will be a shift.

    I also feel that we will see much more of Thrawn’s menacing nature during the second half of the third season. I’m also beginning to suspect that Thrawn may very well appear in the next season as a full on force to the Rebels, should that expectation not come to light in the third season.

    8/10 for this episode, it’s a memorable one!

  • December 5, 2016 at 3:06 pm
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    Amazing how the heroes keep making it onto these small Empire work forces, and the Grand Admiral himself does not recognize them because they’re wearing… a piece of glass over their faces. It feels very Season 1.

    I don’t think the show can decide who its audience is. Sometimes (more rarely) it’s great for pretty much all fans, following an intriguing story line, good action, etc. More often it is a young children’s show, with goofy dialog, no real sense of danger, and bumbling villains.

    Yes, Thrawn is better in this episode. But he doesn’t really accomplish anything and for me he has lost something already. Season 3 was shaping up to be really awesome, and now I don’t think so.

    • December 5, 2016 at 5:07 pm
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      It’s a children’s show.

      • December 5, 2016 at 11:50 pm
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        Kids come in all different age ranges. Do you think this has the same target audience as Lego Star Wars?

        • December 6, 2016 at 5:24 am
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          Yes. Children.

          • December 6, 2016 at 4:12 pm
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            So young kids, then? I think it’s INTENDED for older kids, but comes off as for young kids.

          • December 6, 2016 at 6:37 pm
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            Aren’t we all old kids?

            We’re watching a franchise that has a Yeti co-piloting a spaceship next to a cowboy with a samurai and farmboy sitting in the back seats.

  • December 5, 2016 at 11:49 pm
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    Thrawn was more of a threat in this episode, but still.
    And really, after all that build up the big mystery weapon developing on Lothal is a new Tie Fighter? On one hand, as much as they are over doing the superweapons, it would have been cool to have it be something like a prototype laser emitter for the death star, which they take out at some point without knowing what it is for exactly… or a new kind of cloaking device… something larger in scope. The laser thing could have even been referenced in Rogue One. I guess TIEs with shields are a threat, but it’s kind of a let down for me. A new Star Destroyer, something massive, would have been cool.

    IMO, this show should just be erased from canon and they should start over with something that really lives up to the potential. Disney doesn’t wish to put the money into this show because it doesn’t get the returns Clone Wars did.

  • December 8, 2016 at 3:25 am
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    I was underwhelmed by the Tie Defender as well. One creative option I see as being an interesting way out, is for the Tie Defender to be basically vaporware. – The Empire can’t afford to mass produce them. They’ve gone way over budget, and are massively over engineered and complicated. The project itself, however, does make great bait for a trap. – It seems like a reasonable way to address this otherwise completely overpowered starfighter, and explain, in cannon, why it was never put into production.

    I liked seeing more of Thrawn. He seemed much more effective in this one, but something is still missing. We can’t just count on dramatic irony to create all the tension when he’s in the room. We need to *see* why he’s so dangerous, and so clever. His interaction with Hera at her family home were far more effective in that regard. Yes, in this episode, he did make a rebel agent kill themselves with their own sabotaged speederbike, and that was wonderfully in character, but with Hera we got to see how observant he is, how smart he is, and how effortlessly he figured out who Hera was.

    He also needs to win a big fight. It’s getting a bit repetitive that the Rebels win and he acts as if it’s all going according to plan. Let’s see him really really mess them up by the mid season finale.

    Still love this show, but they have a long way to go, to reach last season.

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