New ILM Visual Effects Reel From ‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi’ – Bombing Run
Director Rian Johnson was very adamant in the use of “simplicity of design” with visual effects in the hit film, Star Wars: The Last Jedi. What really sold fans this time around was the layers and details that went into many of the film’s photo-realistic designs. Check out this sample of the visual effects work that went into The Last Jedi in this all-new ILM video.
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Take a look behind the magic at the Oscar nominated Visual Effects of Star Wars: The Last Jedi. In this clip we see what kind of damage a single rebel can inflict on the empire.
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A Few Shots.
Always a fun watch. Those bombers are suicidal in design! Still, fits in with the whole WW2 styled combat. Bombers were quite… expendable. This to me was a great example of the First Order. There were capable Officers but they were hamstrung by the higher ranked incompetent ones. *cough* Hux *cough*
suicidal in design. Still better than jumping into a TIE fighter withno shields XD. Brainwashing must be the most important part of any imperial pilot’s training. Otherwise I cannot imagine how any of those guys even thinks of setting in a foot into one of these TIEs 😉
Thrawn was right! TIE Defenders would have been the game changer! Stupid Krennic and his one shot moon! Just imagine all the Defenders they could have built for that money!
Sigh… will oppressive regimes ever learn.
They better not…
I love this scene and the the visual effects reel. The music in the scene when Poe hits the booster reminds me why I love Star Wars.
The sequence was “ok.” Why the bombers moved SO SLOW I think was done just for artistic reasons. But it bordered on ridiculous. No reason those ships should move so snail like – other than to create tension for the audience. And I think that was exactly the motivation. It was a bit heavy handed, and to be honest – somewhat annoying. I’ve heard some people claim it’s the best space battle in the entire saga. For the life of me I can’t understand where they’re coming from. The ROTJ space battle had more than ten-times the dynamics and excitement of this so-called “space battle” from TLJ – despite the fact that it came out almost 35 years before and the effects are much more dated.
They aren’t starfighters. They’re much larger. Heavy bombers aren’t made to zip around. Basically like flying fortresses.
They’re not that much larger though. I don’t buy that explanation. The Falcon is larger than those bombers, and it’s much faster. Ok, if that’s not a fair comparison because of Han’s “modifications,” just look at the Tantive IV from the beginning of the very first Star Wars movie in 1977. That for sure was a much larger ship than the bombers and that ship was bookin’. Even the old “bombers” from the OT – the Y-Wings – could move much faster. I’m convinced it was for dramatic effect only. And, in my opinion, it was a bad choice. Rian made more than a few of those in this new movie.
Who the F-U-C-K cares?! If you want to come at Star Wars with science, good luck!
“Who cares?” Obviously I do. If you don’t, no need for you to comment. Just “move along……move along……”
ok, sorry. But seriously, since when do we judge a Star Wars movie by its “science”?!
I don’t know if I would call it “science,” I would rather refer to it as “consistency.” Yes, Star Wars has always been more of a fairy tale and not overly concerned with the laws of physics, and I accept that. I just don’t like things that have been well established in prior movies to be manipulated or thrown out because the new movie maker has an agenda for his own story. Really, the slow bombers aren’t THAT big a deal to me, but they did seem like a contrivance to try and get the audience more worried about survival of the Resistance. It just wasn’t subtle or organic. It felt a bit forced (no pun intended).
But it’s space—larger and heavier mean nothing.
Star Wars’ spacecraft mimic real-world aircraft. Starfighters fly as fighter planes fly through air, banking and rolling. This wouldn’t happen in the airless environment of space. Larger craft fly more slowly in sub-lightspeed. This has been the case throughout the saga.
Agreed – the only reason those bombers moved so slow was for tension. Could of easily been a bit faster. Still a good entry in the Saga, but this is one example of what could of been trimmed to speed up the pace of the film.
Also just how incredibly easy they were to destroy. I mean who in the resistance thought having the slowest ship that can be destroy with one hit from a tie fighter would give them a leg up in battle. I for one would have liked to seen black squadron (you know the group that literally just blew star killer base right before this movie started) come out and take on the dreadnought.
This was one of the few scenes I did enjoy in TLJ. I think it worked well. Not the best space battle in the movies. For me that’s a toss up between ROTJ & R1 but still enjoyable nevertheless.
Dropping bombs in a space battle. The idea is so stupid it takes away all the drama. Not even Lucas went that way in his will to re-create airplane warfare in space. We know there are rockets and missiles in this universe. Use them.
And no, it’s not a question about science. But it is a question about suspension of disbelief. If the internal logic of the fictional world doesn’t make sense, the scene will not make sense. If the writers can make up any shit they like for both problems and solutions, how can there be any excitement?
I saw TIE Bombers dropping bombs in TESB…
Yup, we saw bombers bomb the passive surface of an asteroid. That’s how bombs are used. And I can even buy that the bombs started falling because they were in the internal gravity field.
But dropping slowly, passively, falling bombs at other spaceships from a few meters in a space battle instead of firing missiles from afar is just a plot device.
It’s like if the main method of sinking an airplane carrier was to send out rib boats with guys who threw grenades at the ship instead of equipping the same boats with anti-ship missiles that could strike from from 20 km.
Or why not just drop the bombs in front of the star destroyer and let it fly into it?
(I know, this is a futile discussion. It’s Star Wars. But for me that scene was disrupted by the “What the heck are they doing?” feeling. 🙂 )
Dropping bombs in space….like in ESB?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phGlo_TNDp0
This can be explained easily though: Every ship in the SW universe has artificial gravity inside, so does the resistance bombers. That is why people can stand still in the deck and that’s why Paige fell down inside the ship. Every bomb is inside the ship, they are affected by the gravitational field, so when they are released, they fell down to the bottom, just like Paige did. When they reach the bottom of the ship, the gravitational field stopps pulling them down, but they are in space now, where nothing stopps them from moving with the same speed as they left the ship.
my godness, thanks, there is some brain in the comments section
Seconded.
A great deal of what we see in Star Wars is done for artistic and visual, not logical, effect. Lucas was insistent on this when making the OT. With the existence of repulsorlift technology, AT-AT’s make little practical sense as ground assault vehicles. But they look great. There is no reason for the Imperial Shuttle to deploy its wings for space travel. But it looks cool. Starfighters shouldn’t bank. Control panels on the Death Star are located on pillars whose access requires one to skirt a treacherous abyss. Star Wars is replete with similar examples. None of this stuff makes practical sense, but done rather for artistic purpose. Star Wars is fantasy more than hard science fiction.
Absolutely, Star Wars is definitely fantasy.
I felt that the whole idea of attacking space ships by flying a lot of super slow space ships to it and dropping bombs at it was a strange idea _within_ the Star Wars universe.
My point is that all stories need internal consistency. Rules – however illogical they might be – are set up, and as long as those rules are followed, the suspension of disbelief is upheld. Otherwise there can be no tension in the story and we end up in the “Hitchhiker’s Guide” universe were no situation is ever exciting because anything can happen at any time. 🙂
” Otherwise there can be no tension in the story and we end up in the “Hitchhiker’s Guide” universe were no situation is ever exciting because anything can happen at any time. :)”
Well, I can agree with that. I’ve tried Hitchhider’s Guide…really tried it…
First of all, as Brian pointed out below, there’s a bombing run in Empire. In space. Also, if you want an in-canon answer that explains the mechanics, the bombs in TLJ are magnetic. Please, fellow fans, stop complaining about stupid things and making our community feel so toxic. You’re honestly what’s wrong with Star Wars now, not any small misstep Johnson made. If you’re this frustrated with life, go volunteer, petition your congresspeople, write something inspiring, do something that actually matters instead of ripping into something beloved by millions, just because you have an Internet connection and feel bored and confused. OK? Thanks.
I didn’t feel any magic in the space battles of this movie. They were poorly put together and filled to many WTF moments. For example, the line about surface canons being to large to hit an X Wing. They had not trouble hitting them with the death star canons. What about the large laser canon. There all just staring at the resistance evacuating and never once fire it at the ships in space. They only fire it at the base after everyone has cleared out. Why not just take out the darn ship that there trying to evacuate from? On that topic where the heck did the bombers even come from. They do this wide pan out view of the Raddus and its the only ship? Then all the sudden you have this fleet of bombers?
I won’t even get to deep into the slow space chase, it would take me hours. I’ll just say what was the plan? They come out of hyperspace in the middle of no where and conveniently Crait is near by. If the bridge was so easily destroyed by 2 tie fighters, why not keep sending them. The FO has like 5 star destroyers and snoke’s huge ship. Surely they could have a large fleet of ties and since when the bad guys ever care about their soldiers dying. Heck even the Jedi didn’t and I quote Kenobi “no let them be, they are doing there jobs, we need to do ours”.
I just don’t get how this is viewed as epic or the best space battle in Star Wars.
Poe’s mission was to take the surface guns down, because they could have shot the approaching bombers easily. Once his X-wing was too close, the surface guns couldn’t catch him. That made total sense and even was told visually as he maneuvered around those guns. The whole chatter with Hux was about getting closer very fast by using the fully loaded thruster.
The entire action and the logic behind their strategy was well thought out by Johnson.
“They had no trouble hitting them with the death star canons.”
Yes, they had. That’s why they launched the TIE fighters.
Well you got me on that, I am now recalling Vader saying we’ll have to destroy them ship to ship. Doesn’t change my feelings on the space scenes though.
Nitpicking fairy tales is getting kinda old…don’t you think? SW will always be “fairy tales set in space”. Take that critical part of your brain and throw in the trash for 2 hours when watching….and you might enjoy these movies more.
Here’s the thing, there hasn’t been a Star Wars movie, cartoon series, novel, or comic that I haven’t enjoyed. Some I like more than other, but generally I enjoy a good Star Wars story. Also I am generally with you and have been critical of those who criticize the prequels.
So I guess I just wasn’t prepared for the disappointment that was TLJ because I have never been disappointed in a SW movie before and having an outlet to vent that disappointment has been a good thing for a lot of us that were really upset with this movie.
If you like it, great, I’m happy for you, wish I could feel the same. If you don’t like people criticizing the movie, please feel free to skip over their comments.