Star Wars: The Last Jedi – First Spoiler Free Reactions About the Movie!
(Beware, this article does not contain spoilers for The Last Jedi, but there might be spoilers in the comments section below)
The time has finally come! You can read our initial spoiler free reaction about the movie after the jump as well as the opinion of other fellow sites. Keep in mind that these are just broad impressions about the movie, but so far the feedback is overwhelmingly positive. The full (again spoiler free) reviews for The Last Jedi will start to hit on Tuesday.
First here’s what our own John Hoey thought about the movie:
Star Wars #TheLastJedi was different, unfamiliar at times, but in the best way possible…one of the most story rich, complicated, exciting adventures we have ever seen!
— SWNN (@StarWarsNewsNet) December 10, 2017
And some more reactions from other people:
#StarWars #TheLastJedi is AWESOME! I’m overwhelmed with all sorts of emotion on how incredible @rianjohnson‘s movie is! I can’t wait to see it again. Also, PORGS!!!
— Umberto Gonzalez (@elmayimbe) December 10, 2017
Full Last Jedi thoughts to come next week, but short version: That’s a damn good Star Wars movie
— Scott Meslow (@scottmeslow) December 10, 2017
I just saw #StarWars #TheLastJedi and holy hell is it a masterpiece in a lot of insane ways. I think the standout factor is @rianjohnson’s A+ direction. There has never been a Star Wars Movie like this.
— Conner Schwerdtfeger (@ConnerWS) December 10, 2017
STAR WARS: I LOVED IT THE END
— 🎙🤖.ashley.🕹🍿 (@AshleyEsqueda) December 10, 2017
So #StarWars #TheLastJedi is absolutely beautifully shot, hilarious, and full of standout hero moments for everyone. Still processing but it’s (at an absolute minimum) Top 3 Of The Saga
— Conner Schwerdtfeger (@ConnerWS) December 10, 2017
Holy wow. I’m stunned at @starwars #TheLastJedi. An adventure as epic & sweeping as all the other films combined, with laughs, tears, and moments that will make your head pop off. I CARED about this movie. What a great feeling.
— Grae Drake (@graedrake) December 10, 2017
I just saw THE LAST JEDI pic.twitter.com/WV94lzsbhF
— Mark Ellis (@markellislive) December 10, 2017
#TheLastJedi is incredibly satisfying and hands down Mark Hamill’s best performance as Luke Skywalker
— Aaron Couch (@AaronCouch) December 10, 2017
Cannot overestimate just how gorgeous this film is. I salute you @rianjohnson – some of these shots are all-timers and then some
— ErikDavis (@ErikDavis) December 10, 2017
I’ll have a #TheLastJedi reaction for you in about 6 or 7 years after I can finally process and unpack everything I just saw
— Ash Crossan (@AshCrossan) December 10, 2017
The Forc is strong here. #thelastjedi pic.twitter.com/qEjNlUmJ5M
— Ken Napzok (@KenNapzok) December 10, 2017
You all have no idea what you’re about to see. The saga has truly changed forever #TheLastJedi
— The ForceCast (@ForcecastNet) December 10, 2017
There has never been a movie in the Saga like that. Holy wow. @rianjohnson went big. #TheLastJedi
— The ForceCast (@ForcecastNet) December 10, 2017
I CHOSE:
HOLY BALLS!!! Rian crushes it. Dear God, I hope I pick this tweet. It means #TheLastJedi made me feel like a kid again. HELLS YEAH!!!— Adam F. Goldberg (@adamfgoldberg) December 10, 2017
There aren’t enough words to express how much I LOVED #StarWars #TheLastJedi! It is mind-blowing! I’m in geek heaven! pic.twitter.com/unXfYMkIle
— Jenna Busch (@JennaBusch) December 10, 2017
IT DOES NOT GET BETTER THAN STAR WARS THE LAST JEDI!!!!!!
— robertliefeld (@robertliefeld) December 10, 2017
Star Wars: The Last Jedi is everything. Intense, funny, emotional, exciting. It’s jam-packed with absolutely jaw dropping moments and I loved it so, so much. I’m still shaking. pic.twitter.com/fHddWjo201
— Germain Lussier (@GermainLussier) December 10, 2017
#StarWarsTheLastJedi floored me. @rianjohnson and the team nail so much – thrills, laughs, heart and most of all, pushing the characters/overall franchise a major step forward. Some really rich material to explore in the future. Can’t wait for more.
— Perri Nemiroff (@PNemiroff) December 10, 2017
Guys. @rianjohnson has made the most epic, emotionally powerful @starwars film ever. Hands down. My strong advice is to be very wary of spoilers. The less you know about #TheLastJedi, the better. Bravo, bravo, bravo.
— Clayton Sandell (@Clayton_Sandell) December 10, 2017
Star Wars: The Last Jedi is so very different, exciting, surprising. So many emotions, so many amazing moments. Stay away from spoilers.
— Peter Sciretta (@slashfilm) December 10, 2017
No hyperbole – #TheLastJedi is the best #starwars movie. @rianjohnson and co nailed it
— James Viscardi (@JimViscardi) December 10, 2017
Star Wars: The Last Jedi is a triumph. So many big moments, so much emotion, so much to digest. Had the whole crowd cheering and woah’ing.
— Kevin Polowy (@djkevlar) December 10, 2017
There’s a scene in #StarWars #TheLastJedi that I keep playing over and over in my head, that is so stunning and unexpected that I don’t want to forget how I felt seeing it for the first time. This movie feels unlike any other Star Wars movie in all the ways I hoped. pic.twitter.com/zlDW4yOjp2
— Terri Schwartz (@Terri_Schwartz) December 10, 2017
#TheLastJedi = mind blown.
— Chillin in my Bacta (@AminESPN) December 10, 2017
I am STUNNED by #StarWars #TheLastJedi. I gasped, I laughed, I screamed, I cried and I had the time of my life. Rian Johnson pulled it off, making what might be the best Star Wars movie ever. pic.twitter.com/0VE5M90dsH
— Joshua Yehl (@JoshuaYehl) December 10, 2017
No hyperbole – #TheLastJedi is the best #starwars movie. @rianjohnson and co nailed it
— James Viscardi (@JimViscardi) December 10, 2017
Every single shot serves a purpose and #thelastjedi is easily the funniest #starwars film. And that is a fantastic thing.
— James Viscardi (@JimViscardi) December 10, 2017
THE LAST JEDI: A little too long & dragged in the middle, but great fun overall! As good as The Force Awakens; Rogue One is better! More humor than expected, great #StarWars moments, #MarkHamill is awesome! A worthy Episode VIII pic.twitter.com/HHihSa788D
— Scott Mantz (@MovieMantz) December 10, 2017
Massive congrats to my friend @rianjohnson for the dazzling writing and directing work he shared tonight! Yes, a great chapter of a blockbuster franchise, spectacular and unpredictable, but also his own voice shining through… kudos!
— Mangold (@mang0ld) December 10, 2017
Impressed with #StarWars: #TheLastJedi. It makes some big, impressive and surprising moves that I definitely didn’t expect. Not all of the plot stuff is exactly perfect, but the character work is once again fantastic, and it’s just amazing to see Luke Skywalker back in action.
— Eric Eisenberg (@eeisenberg) December 10, 2017
It was everything you expected and nothing you expected.
— Bryan Young (@swankmotron) December 10, 2017
The Last Jedi is incredible. Character at the forefront, amazing action and so so so much emotional payoff decades in the making. I will be watching this one a lot. pic.twitter.com/KVOjLhwk27
— Eric Vespe (@EricVespe) December 10, 2017
There will be nitpicks, but #TheLastJedi is an excellent #StarWars movie.
— Scott Mendelson (@ScottMendelson) December 10, 2017
Wowww #TheLastJedi So much to process/ think about. But I am FULLY in love w/ a character arc I didn’t expect.
— Kara Warner (@karawarner) December 10, 2017
#TheLastJedi is going to spark much more debate amongst fandom than TFA. It’s good! But there’s a bit more fat than we’re used to in non-prequel Star Wars films.
— Da7e Galactic Historian Gonzales (@Da7e) December 10, 2017
#StarWars: The Last Jedi is so beautifully human, populist, funny, and surprising. I cried when one POC heroine got her moment because films like these leave their mark on entire generations — and representation matters
— jen yamato (@jenyamato) December 10, 2017
THE LAST JEDI has more goosebump moments than any Star Wars movie I can remember. I was grinning for most of the 2 and a half hours. A worthy and great Star Wars film. The franchise is in great hands. Kudos to @rianjohnson
— Josh Horowitz (@joshuahorowitz) December 10, 2017
It’s AMAZING. Just amazing. Have a lot to process, but WOW. #lastjedi
— Ryan Parker (@TheRyanParker) December 10, 2017
Luke was right: “This is not going to go the way you think.” #TheLastJedi will shatter you – and then make you whole again. pic.twitter.com/PJyYpH5loP
— Anthony Breznican (@Breznican) December 10, 2017
We have yet to find any negative comments. This is going to be truly amazing and obviously not going the way we all think.
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CAN”T WAIT!!!! STARWARS4LIFE BABY!!
Looks like all the people who snidely predetermined this movie to be an Empire remake are going to be disappointed.
Oh don’t expect them to stop. Even when they do see it, all they’ll see are AT-ATs and it’ll forever be “The Empire Reboots,” or some dumb shit.
Kent Kaliber messaged me to say that he attended the premiere and gave it a 10/10, with Rose being the best part. 🙂
I thought he already saw the whole movie back in 2016.
That´s a good one! :)))))))
Naw, he’s too busy posing in the mirror wearing his latest goth outfit…
I’m seeing great reactions from people who loved TFA and from people who hated it. This is insane!
Great news… I’m even more jazzed about TLJ if I wasn’t enough already! Looks like American Ignorant will have some egg on his face.
So, better than Attack of the Clones then.
That aint too hard.
LOL
Im pretty sure thats the lowest bar put…
Now, if we are talkiing memes competition….It is a VERY BIG BAR..
Its a course, and is everywhere in the prequels.
Jar Jar is not Snoke?
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Good greif…As if i didnt already have huge expectations! Man! I cannot WAIT!
Brilliant news! Just a couple of days to go and the hype has gone through the roof!
I’m going to have to see if I can get Thursday off work.
Can’t wait.
Thankfully my boss knows how much I love Star Wars and suggested a midday screening/long lunch. What a legend!
You didn’t already do that months ago?!!!
My only hope now is that the snow goes away.
Ran out of holidays but we have a ‘annualized’ overtime system at work, where we get paid each month for doing OT but we have to have a week or so off unpaid and then work that back as overtime. The new year just started in Dec so I’m going to ‘bank’ a day if poss.
I got teary eyed reading the freaking tweets! I’m doomed.
“Must…temper…expectations.”
I know right? I immediately shut my brain down as to how it could be so awesome. If I start creating dream scenarios the movie can’t possibly live up to it.
I dont remember, What were the TFA Tweet reactions like? COmpared to these.
Same as these tweets: best ever! Best of all times! Etc, etc.
I think TFA reactions while positive, were also a lot of relief that this wasn’t going to turn out the prequels. “Star Wars is back!” and that sort of thing.
That said, I liked TFA and will be satisfied if TLJ is of similar caliber.
TFA works for me too. Sure it’s far from perfect but my bar was set firmly at prequel levels. So even a spiritual remake of ANH was fine by me.
To me these reactions seem to indicate that this movie is not only special but different. Something a lot of us wanted. So worried about another spiritual remake of Empire Strikes back.
My dad and I had the same conclusion for TFA.
– Its gorgeously filmed But is a remake of New hope.
– It was the safe entry point for general audience to come back to starwars
– IF 8 is not a remake of emire, then TFA goes up in our eyes. If it is a remake..down.
Looks like its the former!
Agreed. I thought going back to basics and familiar territory with TFA was the smartest move if this series was eventually going to take us in new and surprising directions.
At the end of the movie I felt we were already in a new place. Instead of one protagonist on a hero’s journey alone like Luke or Anakin, we have two, Rey and Kylo Ren.
The problem I had was never really that it’s a remake of SW, it’s that it’s a remake of large chunks of SW….and Empire…and Jedi, crammed into a single movie. None of the second half is earned because JJ and Kasdan didn’t do the foundational work necessary, didn’t have three films to let us get to know the characters, and glossed over all of the background that would have informed Han and Ben’s relationship and given that scene any weight apart from “Oh no! I like Han Solo from those OTHER movies, and now he’s dead!!!”.
spot on!
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The thing is people now have TFA to compare it to and they have the expierence of how the reactions to that movie changed with time
I was just thinking that.
HUman action is notbon is not that reflective about history, hense why we Americans elected modern day Facist pig.
Well thankfully we have Trump now to fix everything that pig fucked up.
All amazing, JJ nailed it, Star Wars was back, best Maybe the best Star Wars ever, etc, etc. Guess what the twitter reactions at the Rogue One red carpet event were – go on, guess. You’ll never guess.
Not saying this movie is NOT good (I won’t know until after Christmas…oh well), just that red carpet twitter reactions are worth exactly the weight of the electrons used to convey them.
The hard work now is how to get away from spoilers more than 4 days in this era… :O
I’m going dark. Like probably right now. Goodbye for a few days! 😛
I don´t think this site will give spoilers before Thursday without advise.
Good luck! I’m going to try and do the same. It’ll be really, really hard, but it’s only 89 hours for me now, so I think I can make it!
Best idea is to go completely off. For Rogue One some git posted the ending in a non-spoiler forum. Many thanks to SWNN for making a spoiler free article.
found a single negative tweet on collider’s article… the guy says it was disappointing, and he could not believe he prefered TFA. Nothing more though, could be just a troll, or an ethernally unsatisfied purist.
What a negative comment… oh dear… This means this movie Most suck… I’m now off to burn my star wars collection. ( Just kidding ) I’ve never given a hoot about reviews. i don’t think I’ve ever read read one from start to finish.
I like what i like and i like, sorry I stand corrected i love star wars 1 – 8
STARWARS4LIFE! may the Force be with you all = )
I just saw TFA yesterday to get ready and had a good time with it. What makes TFA powerful is the characters it introduces. ìt’s far from being perfect in terms of script (which was a problem for years until they begun production), and I like what I hear from Ryan Johnson that “what he wrote was what it went to production”. I like the idea this is his vision and the fact they didn’t go through endless revisions makes me think it will be pretty honest. If, besides, he expands the mythology and makes us go to new frontiers, what else can we ask for?
I won’t get so easily tuned or fooled, the reactions of the vip guests for the TFA were similar and in the end it ended in the disaster. I don’t want to look like hater or something like that, but I will first go to see the movie by myself and then I will say wheter it is good or not, I won’t accept the fact that it is awesome based only on reviews made by directors friends, who even if it was bad would say so.
YOURE RIGHT. The Force Awaken ticks me off and if her elites like this then im worried about what they did
Doesn’t want to sound like a hater, sounds like a hater anyway. lol
I didn’t know it is forbidden to have my own opinion about something
TFA was judged positively by more than just the director’s friends. Like 93% of critics and 89% of audiences. If you considered it a disaster, then it looks like your opinion goes contrary to the vast consensus.
A critical opinion and waiting to actually see films is great, but I have very serious doubts about TFA objectively ending “in the disaster (sic)”. The film was the darling of critics (not just the director’s darlings) and fans all round, and mellowing opinions of these same persons only mostly turned to “a good film but too evocative of A New Hope and whose backdrop is not really explained”. Hardly a disaster.
“ended in disaster” HAHHAHAHAHAHAA
see, I’m not the only one!
Yes, there are many people who are wrong about a great many things.
lol, oh yeah…only your opinion of Star Wars counts or is important. Pushing that Disney narrative like deathsticks aren’t you!
There are many people that don’t like TFA, but there are many more than do.
you are correct.
There are also a whooooole lotta people who chose MacDonalds over edible food. Even “Billions and Billions” as I understand it. Does that make them more right?
To myself? Yes, my opinion is the one that matters most to me, yes. Just like yours matters to you.
But the only one pushing a narrative here are the people, like you, saying The Force Awakens was “a disaster.”
You don’t have to like the movie and it certainly has some flaws, but to call a movie that was critically and commercially successful to the degree that it was a “disaster” is a false narrative, supplanting the reality with your own opinion.
So spare me the “Disney narrative” bullcrap when you are claiming your opinion over reality.
No, in my opinion…it was a disaster and as time passes it sure seems that many more people are aware of it’s “short comings”. I can call the good out and the bad? I’ve yet to see that in you. Yes, I am a EU fan over anything that I have seen as to date from the new canon. Except Rogue One. Which was a home run in my opinion.
So, I’m not pushing a narrative. I’ve stated my opinion from the beginning and have seen that many others have agreed, as the shiny new SW wore off and the movie had time to breathe. Watch, as more time passes …TFA will be viewed as a lesser in the line of movies, no matter how much money it made initially. But, I still have hope that Rian will give us a great movie…even if I personally feel that he will need to fix the flaws from the previous.
So, try being a little more open instead of your point of view always being the correct one. I’m glad you liked TFA, but I didn’t and that doesn’t make either of us wrong.
Then you haven’t read the comments where I have criticized TFA so feel free to go through them all the way to 2 years ago. I don’t have to prove myself to the likes of you.
Calling one of the most successful, popular movies of all time a disaster is a narrative.
I never said it makes you wrong for disliking it. I said calling it a disaster is wrong because that is taking your own opinion and pushing a narrative based on it. I said you are free to dislike it.
So…try to be a little open in reading comprehension.
it’s not a narrative….it’s an opinion. Admittedly, once pressed in the past you did admit to a few flaws of TFA.
I don’t expect you to prove anything, but you trying to point out that everyone’s opinion but yours is wrong just doesn’t cut it. I’m perfectly fine to disagree with you. And I’m glad you like what you like. But, I don’t go out of my way to try and say you’re wrong in your opinion.
I give….i try to cut up with you through sarcasm and our different views. Your too uptight, or on pay roll.
I wish you a Merry Christmas and hope you enjoy TLJ!
Same to you!
I think these tweets are enough for me, must resist reviews till I see it on Wednesday
Bye for now.
Harloff wrote The Last Jedi is “ballsy”… If the spoilers (on reddit) are true, for me it’s not ballsy at all. Seems like a pretty predictable story, if you didn’t let the advertising fool you. But: let’s see…
I’m hoping much of what was posted was false….scares me…
3 More days….stay on target (and away from spoilers), i haven’t seen any of the TV spots and even skipping past movie news on Jedi Council so i’m going in fresh (unlike TFA asi basically knew the entire plot and Han’s death before i went it) so i can’t wait to see this movie…and when it comes to Episode 9 i’ll be doing the same.
12:01 on 14th December cannot come quick enough now.
I wish they would give it thumbs up or thumbs down and stop with the hyperbole like they do everytime. A movie can be great and enjoyable and not be the greatest SW movie ever. I still take these with a grain of salt because they said the same things about ROTS.
They legally can’t give a “review” since the film is under embargo, so any kind of ranking or scale beyond an initial thought of excitement would get people in trouble
These little bites of Twitter goodness do make me hopeful for the film. But they are tempered by the fact that I read the same reactions to TFA and that to me was a big disappointment aside from making me like and care about the new characters.
IF they take those characters and put them in situatuations where you’re rooting for them and provide an unexpected story on top of that I suspect that I’ll be writing some hyperbole of my own.
A good TLJ will elevate TFA in my opinion.
I completely agree. Almost every review I read suggested TFA was brilliant but it was an awful film.
That’s not true at all
Flimsy plot, wooden acting, poor editing, terrible script….
I would call it “good,” but not great… With another set of eyes on the script TFA could have been without the plotholes and cheesy script (i.e. was it necessary for Han to take Chewie’s bowcaster twice?”)
Par for the course with Abrams and oh goody, he’s back for episode 9, can’t wait.
There’s a definite sense of ‘karma’s a bitch, isn’t it?’ there though. You wanted to hint around at all kinds of awesome stuff, you wanted to skip over the boring ‘story’ stuff and get to the ‘splosions, and leave all that annoying ‘filmmaking’ for someone else to figure out JJ? Guess what, fucker, now it’s YOUR problem to sort the story out and come up with some kind of satisfying resolution to all the nonsense you left dangling. Good luck with that – I’d start praying Rian has done the bulk of the heavy lifting with this movie for you, dude.
Oh, you are talking about the prequels? My bad, I misunderstood.
Thank god you were here to shoot down his subjective opinion on the film by correcting it with your own totally objective one ◔_◔ Once again, you’ve saved the day, Self-Unaware Man!
Which part isn’t true? That he completely agrees with the OP or that almost every review he’s read put the film as brilliant but also an awful film?
Only he can’t be wrong with agreeing with someone, as its simply showing his own POV. Then the whole issue of the reviews he’s read…….like have you inside knowledge on what he’s actually read? Is he being false and he’s read others that say different and you know those reviews?
So many questions……but I guess the biggest is why are you being a troll?
You are entitled to your opinion, but the vast majority of critics and audiences clearly don’t agree with that assessment.
It’s not a popularity contest.
How we collectively feel about a movie is based on majority consensus.
The majority can be completely wrong.
There is no “right” or “wrong” when evaluating movies or art in general, but there is a collective consensus based on how a majority felt about a movie. Why do you think we consider certain movies from years ago to be classics while forgetting about others?
I didn’t realize ‘we’ collectively felt things at all. You’re…you’re not going to try and assimilate me now, are you?
Of course we do. It’s the reason we still talk about the Wizard of Oz 80 years later. Because the majority of people who saw it loved it and it became a classic. The culture collectively decided it was a good movie.
Will troll the whiners and the haters next week.
Until then, TTFN.
Looks like you were dead wrong. The fantastic Rian Johnson pulled through with yet another hit, not the Empire knockoff you said it was going to be. But that’s just good news for us star wars fans.
Yes, yes, it did look that way for a time Arse, but apparently the news has just reported that the movie was very, very terrible and that there has been a great loss of life in a stampede, which was occasioned by the movie’s terrible terribleness. Sorry.
What? Where are you hearing this from?
I like the cut of your jib, sir.
I don’t understand why you guys want this movie to suck? Do you guys seriously think Lucas is going to come back to making star wars movies?
MAYBE YOU SHOULD PAY BETTER ATTENTION TO WHEN I’M USING MY TROLL VOICE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS.
#EMPIREREBOOT
#JJSUCKS
#BRINGBACKLUCAS
#PREQUELSWERETHEBESTMOVIES
Now that it’s verifiable that the movie is amazing do you finally admit that you were wrong? LOL
YOU SEEM TO BE MISSING THE POINT, BRAH. I DON’T KNOW IF THE LANGUAGE BARRIER BUT YOU’VE BEEN TROLLED REPEATEDLY.
ALSO NOTHING HAS BEEN VERIFIED UNTIL I SEE IT.
“Best SW since Empire” is something I heard about R1, TFA, Sith and even,—good God—Clones, but I never heard anyone say the new SW film was the best SW ever. I’ve read that from multiple people now about TLJ.
13.12. 2017. 22:00 a little bit more
Also
-Character choices that make sense from scene to scene?
-Having characters earn their moments with real development, rather than “well, the script needs someone to defeat the bad buy now, so…uhhh…hmmmm…YOU, I guess you’re all-powerful now. Congratulations; take a lightsaber from the table on the left and a Force power from the pile on your right and head through the door.”?
-Taking a moment or two to let the film “breath…just…breath”?
-A climactic battle where I care about the stakes?
-Photography that doesn’t make everything look like it was shot on a set built for TV?
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You know, nit-picky things 🙂
“Character choices that make sense from scene to scene?” <<<< like Finn can't just kill anybody in the village, he finds that horrible: 10min later he's massacring an hangar full of old friends and he seems to be enjoying it 😀
Sing it. In any given scene, taken in isolation, he’s fine. You try to track his character over the film though and you just can’t.
For someone from this site (SW hardcore fans) to say that is was “unfamiliar and different”, that worries me, but what’s the point, only four days
So was Empire – drew TONS of critical ‘meh’s because of it back in my day, dagnabbit. “Unfamiliar and different” is why it’s worth making sequels. Hell, it may be the ONLY reason it’s worth making sequels.
What I mean, at the end, is, that if the guys from this site did not report “it is the best SW film so far”, then it certainly isn’t. And wondering why so, is like sand: coarse and irritating. One less day to go, though.
But can you really trust every fan to now what is good?
Everyone has different opinions on what they think are good Star Wars movies. Some people like the PT more than the OT, some put The Force Awakens at the very bottom some put it at number 3 or 4.
So, even if big Star Wars fans on here were saying that it truly was one of the best Star Wars films they’ve ever seen, and you trust their opinion. Then just remember there is always a chance the film might not match your expectations and therefore be considered not as good of a film as you thought it would be. It’s one of the negative aspects of hyping things up.
Hell, some stupid people…cough…are only happy if a SW film features Vader. And butter. And bacon.
Really? After 2 years of people bitching about not enough new things and original stuff?
So true! I’ll decide for myself…
There are different kinds of different, if that makes sense, and that’s waht fans of almost anything want, we want the same, but different.
Sounds oxymoronic to me. Either you want something familiar, or you want something new. But you can’t want something familiarly new.
You gotta admit that we SW fans, are some of the most complicated bunch of fans out there :p
I mean, don’t look now, but that’s the tightrope literally all sequels have to tread – people pay their two bits to see them because they liked the first one, so they want some of that experience again. But at the same time JUST doing that same thing again isn’t satisfying, and sequels have to challenge the audience with something unexpected to be successful. Unexpected and new, but within the boundaries of what’s been established already. Yes, it’s contradictory, and it’s a big part of why so many sequels are terrible or at any rate poor shadows of what came before.
People want something new within the context of familiar so it feels like a natural extrapolation of known data. If someone tells you they are looking for something different in a relationship, and you boil them in oil, that is certainly different, but they will likely not be pleased.
That comment is hardly surprising. Lawrence Kasdan said RJ’s script was weird and the actors pointed out it was unexpected. That doesn’t mean it is not good, but that’s why I think it has the potential to be divisive or controversial.
My advice to everyone here for the next 4 days…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28LfW-OtHR0
Bye everyone I’ll see you guys Friday.
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From the reactions, it seems to me it’s going to be divisive and not necessarily a crowd pleaser. Of course, early reviews from fanboys should always be taken with a grain of salt.
These reactions are certainly promising, though I tend to prefer movies that are critically divided , such as Mother!. Still, I am looking forward to seeing Luke again!
There are some leaks on the web already, but it’s hard to tell if they are true or false. IF they are true, I believe the reaction will be more mixed than those early reviews as, at least to me, it doesn’t sound so good on paper. Again, I haven’t seen the movie yet and won’t judge it by unverified spoilers.
Get ready for another new round of star wars rankings.
For me, I’m predicting mine will turn out to be this:
A new Hope
Empire strikes back
The last jedi
Revenge of the sith
The force awakens
Return of the jedi
Rogue one
The phantom menace
Attack of the clones
And then 6 months later Solo is supposed to come out. Could be higher than R1 or lower. I’m guessing lower
Here’s my list with an obvious guess on TLJ;
A New Hope
Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
Revenge of the Sith
The Last Jedi
Rogue One
The Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
The Force Awakens
Had a chance to chat briefly with someone who was there, and who’s opinion I generally trust. Overall verdict was ‘some really, really good stuff, some kind of ‘meh’ stuff, some really, reaaaaaaaly bad stuff, the second act goes on long enough to be ‘too long’, but that it’s both surprising enough and good enough that it’s going to take a couple of viewings to really come to grips with the movie’. Conspicuously absent – anything approaching my concerns about TFA – breathless pacing, inconsistent writing, and poor character choices. Good enough for me to be a recommendation!
breathless pacing is a bad thing?
When the entire film is played at the same breakneck speed without respite? Yes. Yes it absolutely is. It’s exhausting and numbing. Films need to ebb and flow in terms of pace, something Abrams doesn’t seem to understand.
There was plenty of slower moments: intro of Rey, finns trek through the desert, meeting Han, going to see maz, kylo talking to Vader mask, etc etc etc. But even without those moments I prefer fast to a crawling pace like TPM or the first half of rogue one.
There you go again: “The ONLY conceivable alternative to what we got in TFA is the prequels.” Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
Way to ignore my entire rebuttal. Nice Reagan reference though.
I didn´t feel TFA breathless pathing, it was not slow obviously, but not breathless for me.
I missed some explanations, Poe survival hidden for example to surprise us later didn´t work as they expected I think, but we could say the same about plot inconsistencies in Empire or ROTJ…
I believe SW 5 and 6 is linked to our childhood and we have them mystified, it is beyond logic.
Also now we watch many TV series with literally hours to explain the plot… that makes it more difficult to movies appear perfect built.
Well, SW is like a huge serie too…
I’m coming from a place of having grown up in the 70s and 80s, so my default, while there are some I’ve really enjoyed, is not long-format TV. I also didn’t find it was an issue of missing anything, it’s just without any quiet moments, where people aren’t running around screaming, there’s absolutely no contrast in the film. With nothing to contrast with, the high energy, ‘constant delight’ the film is going for is just the default level, and I found it completely desensitising, and ultimately wearing and wearying.
Yes I understand you, it is the 2 hours long video-clip / advertising feeling. No time to think.
This is SW, not Tarkovsky or Bergman.
YES! Exactly! Like a 2 hour trailer!! Except even the TFA teaser knew enough to start very quiet, build anticipation, then explode on the audience, then take a second to let Han have his “It’s true. ALL of it.” moment, then finish with a bang. I mean it’s almost like this is basic film-making or something.
Gonna play Debbie Downer here and remind everyone that the reaction after Rogue One’s premiere was largely “best Star Wars ever” and for many of us, Rogue One turned out to be a sloppy, muddled, fan service film.
I am sure Last Jedi will be great, but premiere are stocked full of known fans and allies to ensure positive reaction is transmitted broadly after the premiere event.
I am very skeptical over hyperbolic twitter statements after a premiere, my goodness even Justice League was considered a triumph after its premiere, but the box office and movie goers clearly thought differently.
Again, hopeful the film is amazing, but tweets like this mean nothing, except those that were invited to the premiere largely did what Disney expected them to do, which is why there were invited in the first place.
To be fair, the negative reaction to JL was mostly in the US, where there is a clear anti-DCEU bias. In other countries, the movie had great reviews. And let’s not forget that Chris Terrio, who wrote BvS and JL, will write Star Wars Episode IX, so if you didn’t like the former, brace for the latter !
To be REALLY fair….JL is not a good film. It’s better than most of the prior DC film offerings, but it’s not “good” by any stretch of the imagination.
A bit of a hot take on my part: ‘Wonder Woman’ isn’t a great film. It’s just ok, but the bar has been set so low it is still the best DCEU film I’ve watched.
The fact that Zack Snyder’s portion of ‘Justice League’ effectively pisses on what Patty Jenkins did for feminism with that film really speaks volumes about the former’s quality. And that is the least of its problems.
Probably just my two cents, though.
I’d ABSOLUTELY agree with that take. WW wasn’t…completely awful? I guess? Aside from the ending, which was just all kinds of terrible on every conceivable level, but it’s still not good (whatever it supposedly did for ‘feminism’ and why I should care aside). Not like BvS kinds of ‘bad’, and still better than JL, but in terms of superhero movies, I honestly wouldn’t rate it like, leaps and bounds ahead of JL.
“To be fair, the negative reaction to JL was mostly in the US, where there is a clear anti-DCEU bias.”
American taste in movies is developing then…
For me Rogue One is the second best star wars movie, because it is completely different than before and it’s characters have a story and aren’t heroes built from nothing, but thats only my opinion.
Agreed
No! Not for many “of us” at all. Only for Debbie Downer’s such as yourself. Go watch the OT and stfu.
as much fun as it can be to get swept up in fanboy reactions, this all sugar with very little substance. and just like with sports, i really wish people would stop immediately saying something is the best ever right after it happens. let it marinate for a bit, see it a few times, then make that distinction. anyways, i’m sure it will be pretty good.
Wow, gushing Californian type reactions all round, who’d have thought it.
“Califorian type reactions?” What constitutes a Californian reaction, exactly? Effusive praise for something in a valley girl/surfer dude accent?
You constitute a Californian type reaction.
Oh, Ok, thanks for clearing that up. Makes perfect sense now.
There you go again.
Always will be haters, if its like OT, prequels or and if its takes too risk, what it seems TLJ is. If its nothing we have never seen in the saga, the bad opinions will be there for sure. I’ll sit and enjoy the ride as much as i can, and then give constructive opinions. Personally i can’t wait, and i don’t care if its a remake of something previous or if its completly new. Its SW, it has ships and characters I love. So, go for it! Really excited!
scott mantz elaborates his thoughts:
https://twitter.com/MovieMantz/status/939919032404152320
One guy’s opinion. Just like the rest. I’m not getting carried away with these initial reactions. The only opinion that matters on the day, is our own.
Never said otherwise, just wanted to share a contrary opinion.
What’s a “Scott Mantz”?
An Italian calendar?
No, that’s a “Ubaldo Calendari”. I think the Scott Mantz thing is a kind of Italian double-baked, dry and inedible cookie, primarily made and given as a practical joke.
He’s more well known than 90% of the other people listed.
I saw the film, lets just say its not Empire good, but entertaining. Gets a little slow at times, and big reveal is kinda forced. Still leaves you with lotta questions…guess we gotta still wain til Ep. 9 to be satisfied
All I need to know, is it better than Attack of the Clones?
Most movies are better than Attack of the Clones. I happen to be of the opinion that even The Phantom Menace is better than Attack of the Clones. At least it has Liam Neeson and Clones doesn’t. Any more questions?
Have you seen it yet? It’s not hit Norge already has it?
Does Luke die?
If Empire came out today I think plenty of people would complain about it… dragging in the middle for example.
bold statement…
no you didnt….
Sounding good so far. I was deflated after TFA initial hype, but looking forward to seeing what Rian’s created.
Can’t wait!!!
5 more months and still nothing about Solo…on the other hand I’m gonna see a test screening of TLJ Wednesday morning at 1am..Can’t wait!!!
Why would they risk pulling hype off of TLJ? Wait for late January and February – betting we’ll see the ramp up on Solo after TLJ has mostly left theaters.
You don’t get people to spend money today by reminding them how much they will spend tomorrow.
Well, I seen it so I did, and c’mere till I tell ya, there’s dis fella, who looks like he’s been through the wars, an awful lookin craytur, and he wears a dress, a grand golden ting, very snazzy altogether, and he doesn’t like dis other fella, who also wears a frock, a far shabbier lookin yoke… ah anyway I won’t tell yis anymore, yis ill see it for yoursells when ye schlap the oul súile on te de big screen – ya know whah I mean like.
Obviously those that know me on here, know that in my opinion TFA was terrible from a story perspective.
I’m just hoping that Rian gives us a great story and can fix the flaws (in my opinion) from TFA. And can deliver a movie at least as good as Rogue One.
I’m praying that we get some bad ass Luke Skywalker…praying some more…
Not even going to pray for Luke – not going in with any preconceptions about what I want to see happen. I’m just hoping this thing is smarter than TFA and gives me some kind of stakes I can care about.
I can get behind that statement!
Sounds like your wish will come true. Reading Patton Oswalts brief review, he compares Luke to John Wick so, sounds like lots of action for our Jedi master.
Luke….John Wick style! That would be amazing!
I think my opinion of the film will heavily depend on how Luke’s treated. If they dump on his legacy, then I’ll probably dislike the film. On the other hand, if he’s portrayed as doubtful, scared, but still emerges in the end as the noble warrior (as he was when he threw away his lightsaber and refused to serve the emperor), then I’ll be happy because I think Johnson will be able to cover the other bases.
just read the entire story line….and I thought TFA was divisive….good Lord, I’m not happy about sooo many things.
Yep, I’m reading some of them as well. I’m worried, but praying some of these plot/character issues are untrue or look better on screen.
I am sure he put together a good movie, probably just not one I agree with…if that makes any sense.
Makes complete sense. Star Wars Rebels has a few moments like that where it goes in a direction that I wouldn’t. However, if it has to go in that direction, then at least Filoni did a great job in doing it.
Is it just me, or r u guys all terrified when u see the bad or just eh reviews?
I’ve seen 1 mixed review so far. ONE! I’m not too scared. 🙂
Still haven’t seen any, “Was just like The Empire Strikes Back” yet, there must be hope… I mean if it was, there would be at least one person saying it, right? Or did the people who said TFA was just like ANH just not get a ticket?
The people who attended the red carpet premier of TFA didn’t say it was a beat-for-beat copy of SW either.
Because it wasn’t.
I got to attend the premiere as well – its a bold step forward for the Star Wars Universe.
TLJ ranks up there with ESB and R1 – its unlike any other Star Wars movie, in a good way – unexpected and so many twists and turns you don’t see coming – but they all all feel right and they set up all kinds of possibilities for not only Episode 9 but beyond.
TLJ ir more character driven and less about the “big effects” and gratuitous references to previous movies. Its really good.
This movie did what I feared the most — DISRESPECTED Luke Skywalker the character and legacy. Hated it from start to finish.