Rey Needs Help in Star Wars: The Last Jedi TV Spot 6!
Another TV spot for The Last Jedi has been revealed featuring several new shots from the movie. We also hear new dialogue from Rey, Snoke and Finn.
Check it out.
Rey: Something inside me has always been there. But now it’s awake. And I need help.
Snoke: Darkness rises. And light to meet it.
Finn: I was raised to fight. For the first time I have something to fight for
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For some reason, I just don’t like Rian Johnson’s dialogue compared to Kasdan’s. “Darkenss rises, and Light to meet it”?
“Some reason” is that you decided (oh, SO long ago) that you don’t like Johnson AND that you absolutely want to be sure to let *EVERYONE* know – to the point where, now, you are embarassing yourself trying to judge small bits of out-of-context dialogue.
I will judge after the movie (and i only have seen the teaser and the BTS, can’t believe it). But one thing is sure: Kasdan is one of best dialogue (and setpieces, and character development, and environment…) writers ever. He is not a simply guy.
Yep the best way to judge a writer’s work is a TV spot with spliced together dialogue. That’s some serious intuition.
In all fairness, there are people considering him a god now, from 15 seconds of a commercial. For me, I’ll wait 3 weeks.
The people who love Johnson are doing it on the strength of his previous movies and the fact that Lucasfilm has already given him his own trilogy to do whatever he wants with because they’re so pleased with TLJ. We’re not calling him a god based on 15 seconds of commercial.
Well George Lucas had a great movie in 1977 and people love to hate his later work. I as I said, I’d rather wait beofre I pass any judgement, especially since I’m not a big fan of Looper.
And that is a reasonable stance. But if I mind you asking, what didn’t you like about Looper? I’m genuinely curious. For me, much as I love that movie, it is a bit of a slow burn during its first act, but manages to pick up steam. Plus, the movie does fiddle with its rules of time travel going forward.
I love time travel movies, but I’m not particulary fond of gritty movies, even thought the premise is quite good, and Emily Blunt is one of my girlfriends, I didn’t feel a strong connection to the story, and the cinematography, it looks like a lot was shot with a handheld camera, which I’m not a big fan of, either. I think I gotta see it again, though. I liked Trevorrow’s Safety not Guaranteed a lot more, (Aubrey is another girlfriend too. A shame he was sacked.
People love to make excuses for it too.
Yeah, I can see where you are coming from. I hate to be that hipster guy, but I was really excited to see Rian Johnson be a part of SWs due to me really loving his work. A small pedigree, but a quality one in my book.
And I’d be lying if I said I didn’t like the line delivery. But I keep in mind, that these are taken out of context and to formulate a more informed view, I obviously need to see the movie in its entirety.
But what about that other great line from the trailer.
“This is not going to go the way you think it is.”
I mean, amazing. Mind blowing dialogue, right there.
Is Kent Kaliber actually George Lucas?
“There has been an awakening…the dark side, and the light”
This is practically the exact same line
I think there’s what we might call scansion flaws. Not that we’d expect rhyming couplets of course, but just as the best ‘free verse’ still honours the idea of ‘the best words in the best order’ the metre of some of the lines heard so far doesn’t sound finessed. I won’t set much store by this as felt in the trailers when the clips might in this regard be unrepresentative, but I feel slightly concerned that there might be a lot of jagged dialogue in the film like this – a lot of words a bit crammed in. In TFA there are some not ideally delivered lines and some bits of fluff but for instance Lor San Tekka’s dialogue is very nicely shaped, as are Han’s lines about the Jedi. I’m going to try and put this out of my mind now though…
I think the editors made that line by cutting and mixing together two Snoke’s diferent dialogues. The word
New music in this?
Sounds like some substituted stuff from another composer as I think was done for TFA teaser?
* ”But now it’s awake”
I guess Finn keeps telling people the same story again and again. Does he also say that he was taken from parents that he never knew?
Better that then “You have a boyfriend cute boyfriend.” LOL
Agreed. Man, I hated that line. But that’s JJ for you; his witty dialogue being like a square peg trying to fit in a round hole. And before anyone asks, yes I know that the original SWs movies, the OT, had some really corny lines. But really, listen to ANH and you will notice there is a sense of regality and formality to the line delivery.
TFA just felt like a big old joke/ reference after another with its line. Though, Kylo’s line of “I feel the call to the light” is a great line.
TLJ seems to have rectified this. I will need to see the movie, but I trust Rian a lot more than Abrams given he is a screenwriter and in my view has written some excellent dialogue with works, like Looper and Brick.
But again, I will wait and see with TLJ.
Yea I hated that about force awakens with all the comedy feeling forced and trying to squeeze it in every scene instead of the OT felt more natural like yoda and Luke’s first meeting was just funny because of the way yoda acted. A puppet is funnier than Finn.
Yup. A part of me suspected that since the screenplay was behind schedule and that Michael Ardnt wasn’t working fast enough, he left and Abrams was allowed to put use of his footprint. And really, Abrams dialogue and style to me just sees super mismatched.
Compare TFA to MI3. MI3 this kind of dialogue works due to the nature of the Spy genre. Here, if Abrams was super insistent on copying ANH, why not take inspiration from the dialogue. Yeah, that movie had some really hooky lines with some awful line delivery.
But a good chunk of the dialogue was superb. But I cannot gripe too much. TLJ, looks like has rectified this. Yeah, the lines are out of context, but Rian Johnson in my view has always excelled at dialogue.
So yeah, I’m super pumped for TLJ.
Yes. I agree. I was just watching the breaking bad episode ozymandias he directed again and it’s so good. I can’t wait to see how TLJ and this new trilogy he’s making comes out
But in SW, it’s hokey with a purpose. It’s SUPPOSED to sound like something out of a 40s serial, and it’s used as a way of placing the audience in the right frame of mind for stuff which might be absurd, but in the context of being a throwback to an earlier piece of American cinema, lets it all work.
I’m well aware of that and I actually acknowledge that as ANH and even ROTJ do have some really hooky lines. But I found that the line was better balanced in those movies with the more serious moments. TFA, in my view, just didn’t do that as well as it could.
Really, the screenplay to me I just couldn’t get behind with all the references and just a comedy. Though, I will admit it did give birth to a great line: “That’s not how the Force works.”. Love that line and Ford’s delivery.
As much as I like TFA (4 times in theater, blu-ray home, etc..) I hate to read the bad stuff, it remains me that there were really stupid things and I don´t like it, I want to like this movie! 🙂 with a smile, but seriously…
JJ wasn’t the only screen writer. You can lock down that was his dialogue? Impressive.
“But really, listen to ANH and you will notice there is a sense of regality and formality to the line delivery.”
Like when Han Solo constantly refers to Leia as “sister”?
Sister, worship, or highness I always felt those were in context of the Han character in the OT. I mean he called Luke boy and kid throughout Hope & Empire…
Yes. Meanwhile, Rey and Finn are complete nobodies, and therefore shouldn’t have to be regal or formal in any way. So it makes sense.
“Sister”? “SISTER”???!!!! LUCAS HAD IT ALL PLANNED OUT AHEAD OF TIME CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!
yeah, some dialogs were funny….at the end when Rey said to Finn -We will meet again (or something like that), when she said “my friend” I almost expected she will turn tu the viewers to say that, with a blink eye (that was an iformation FOR YOU) 🙂
agreed. That was the worst line in TFA.
“No. It was Shnoke. He sheedushed our shun to the dark shide. But we can shtill shave him.”
At the risk of offending CF’s memory, I beg to differ.
I´m not native english speaker yet it was strange how she talked….
A better line would have been Finn: Soooo you have…uh someone special…in your life?? That works a bit better in my opinion. Boyfriend seems a bit too earthy? Then again, so does farmboy. LOL.
Boyega´s overacting and Maz Kanata, finger crossed both will dissappear in the next one 🙂
the fights used to seem important now they just happen to fill a 2 hour film
Solid observation, dude…just spot on. : /
Rey: “I need help.”
Luke: “Yeah, don’t we all.”
LOL. That just made my day. Thank you. 🙂
So she is training with the staff and gets tempted by anakin lightsaber meanwhile Luke stands and watch
I’m predicting that Luke is not going to train her, she tries to do it herself and upon seeing the Force or something like that; he will train her. A part of me dreads this as depending on how it is executed, it can come off as really bad.
But I am willing to put some faith into Rian Johnson. But hey; I can believe Rey when she says she needs help. She’s like the audience in that regard. 🙂
wax on wax of, Rey-San…
I feel almost no need to worry about the quality of the film. It’s one thing for Kathleen to say she’s proud of Rian’s work at SW Celebration. It’s a whole nother thing to be so proud of the man’s work he’s given a new trilogy and announce it over a month in advance of screening his first film in the SW Universe. I never understood how people could physically be ill worrying about a film. You didn’t put any money into it. It’s just a new foray into a world we already like, one movie that doesn’t live up to your expectations doesn’t mean the entire thing is trash. If someone accidentally puts pickles in my sandwich I don’t throw out the entire thing and demand they make it again… I just remove the pickles. If I’m at a buffet and realize one of the things I’ve put on my plate actually isn’t to my liking, I don’t throw away the entire plate. I just scoot the stuff I don’t like to the side and continue with my meal. Disney’s put so much confidence in Rian and his work that at this point, logically you’d have to be a contrarian to think there is anything wrong with The Last Jedi. I’m going to enjoy the film regardless and won’t waste the precious few weeks I have left to sit in the dark sweating bullets. I’d rather enjoy them as much as I can before I get to see the next chapter. It’s only been 2 years and I already miss the months leading up to the release of TFA. Half the fun of the film is the anticipation. Don’t worry over something you can’t control, because if that’s the case we all may as well just sit around cowering in the fetal position crying over the fact that we’ll all die one day. Don’t be a worry wort, just look forward to what we’re getting. Either it will be a smash hit and an amazing story as Disney believes or it will be the greatest f-up of all time leading to the downfall of Rian’s career and everyone losing credibility in Disney and Lucasfilm… and for some reason I don’t see the 2nd really being a possibility.
I wonder if they ever say anything different that “we are so proud, the movie is superb”, no matter what the quality is…. 🙂
That’s a good point. But after the Lord and Miller as well as Trevorrow incidents it seems clear that Disney isn’t afraid to get rid of people who they know aren’t living up to their defined standards. Aside from that I just think you’ve gotta admit it’s one thing to give verbal accolades, and it’s a whole ‘nother thing to do that and also give someone the keys to not just a standalone… but your next big trilogy that veers from any established storylines. While my expectations are still tempered, I think giving Rian a trilogy of his own that will probably dictate the next decades of Star Wars films is one of the best “early reviews” for the Last Jedi or really any film. How often do we really hear news like this? And from a company that is on such a win streak, it’s not like they’d turn around and do this for anyone. I think the only precedent we have so far is the Russo Brothers in the MCU but even then the MCU’s had almost a decade of planning going into its storyline whereas it seems Rian has more of a hand in building this new foundation. My only speculation into what the new trilogy could be about is that he must have tapped into some great lore when putting together the story of the Last Jedi that Lucasfilm and Disney must have not only loved so much but realized the potential for a world of new story.
No, that was just a fact – the creator or producer will always say that the product is awesome. But in this case of course I totally agree that they have to be happy with Rian and I´m looking forward to this new trilogy. This Disney Star Wars time is extremely funny (and a little bit dangerous at the same time). We are lucky to live in these exciting times..
Is it just me that hears Alan partridge in the ‘Darkness rises’ line? 😀
No it’s not just you 🙂
I sure hope we have feelings behind these conflicts. Sure it’s pretty but there’s got to be heart too. Here’s hoping I’m on the edge of my seat during these clashes.