UPDATE 2! Rumor: New Wave Of Black Series Star Wars Toys Tease The Last Jedi Characters.
An image showing an inventory for future Star Wars products set to arrive at a GameStop store around September 1, 2017 (Force Friday) has recently made its way online. While the product names that are related to The Last Jedi are naturally coded, they do give us an idea of what to expect for the movie’s marketing campaign.
The orginal image leaked out on Reddit, and while the info provided with the screencap would typically be enough to lead into a story, there’s more info to consider here. Our pal at La Fosa del Rancor also added the following details to the mix:
The names of “Cool Beta” and “Foxtrot” are all the more difficult to predict which characters they refer to, but the first figures it is hoped they will be important as Rey, Kylo Ren, Luke, Finn or Poe, but you never know. The so-called “Victor” is very likely to be Snoke. What gives us reason to think that it is Snoke is because in one of the two figures that this character will have that it will include a “throne”, and we’ve seen no one but Snoke we sit on a throne in the Sequel Trilogy. Finally, there is a pack of 4 figures of characters called “Guards of Evil”, which sound like the rumored personal guards of Snoke.
A Sequel Trilogy-era Black Series figure of Luke is rumored to arrive closer to the release of the movie, so perhaps “Cool Beta” and “Foxtrot” are more representative of the new cast than the legacy characters. Given that “Victor” is almost certainly Snoke, it’s incredibly likely that we’ll see him both in his robes (as seen in The Force Awakens) and his regal attire that has been rumored to debut in The Last Jedi. It’s likely that now that Lucasfilm have decided what Snoke looks like, they’ll be using him more in the marketing for future movies. On a last, unrelated note, the figure listed in the middle of the other Episode VIII toys – “Blue Leader” – refers to General Merrick from Rogue One Grand Admiral Thrawn as he appears in Rebels, as it was confirmed by Hasbro at Star Wars Celebration Orlando that Thrawn would be a Force Friday character (hat tip @RogueKnight).
UPDATE 1!
The “Foxtrot” codename sounded oddly familiar to me, and thanks to The Cantina contributor MagnarTheGreat, I remember exactly why. Magnar previously took note of list of forthcoming Wal-Mart products described on a collecting site known as Bantha Skull in December 2016. Among the products listed were two specific items explicitly tied to The Last Jedi:
- 55187081 SW E8 FX FOXTROT 1 BLUE LIGHTSABER
- 55187088 SW E8 DC VICTOR GUARD AND TANGO RED
Let’s use what we’ve recently learned about these Gamestop with the Wal-Mart product list to draw a few conclusions. Firstly, it appears as though “Foxtrot” directly refers to either Luke Skywalker or Rey. While I am inclined to believe it is most likely the latter, distinctly pointing out that the lightsaber is blue (presuming that part isn’t a code – more on that in just a second) also suggests that we might be talking about a Luke-related product here. Secondly, we can presume that “Victor” does indeed refer to Snoke, but it may also suggest that the “Guards of Evil” are not necessarily related to Snoke in particular, since there’s a clear distinction between them and the “Victor Guard”. If that’s the case, then the “Guards of Evil” character multi-pack could be a few of the Knights of Ren. Thirdly, “Blue” and “Red” seem to be indicative of individual factions. If Thrawn’s “Blue Leader” status is indicative of anything, then we can presume that “Blue” refers to the Empire/First Order and “Red” refers to the Rebel Alliance/Resistance – or it could be the other way around in the event that it really is a figure of General Merrick from Rogue One. (The “R” label makes me think it’s Rebels-related and not Rogue One-related, in any case.)
UPDATE 2!
The hits just keep coming as more information on Star Wars products arrive. CM4Sci, another Redditor, has revealed even more product names:
SW E8 Deluxe Figure 2-Pack – 5010993364367
SW E8 RP Electronic Lightsaber – 5010993370344
SW E8 Electronic Mask – 5010993370207
SW E8 RP Extendable Lightsaber – 5010993364220
SW E8 3.75″ SWU Figure Collection 1 – 5010993364442
SW E8 3.75″ SWU Figure Collection 2 – 5010993364510
SW E8 Hero Series Figure W1 – 5010993370863
SW E8 Hero Series Figure W2 – 5010993447046
RP Mask – 5010993370429
Lightsaber – 5010993370504
Lightsaber – 5010993372874
Starter Set F – 5010993372966
Starter Set I – 5010993426515
Starter Set D – 5010993372942
Vehicle Class A – 5010993370757
Vehicle Class B – 5010993370818
Vehicle Class C – 5010993364282
Vehicle Class D – 5010993364305
Victor Deluxe Lightsaber – 5010993370443
SW E8 Figures 30cm – 5010993435203
SW E8 IP Beak (Electronic Plush) – 5010993380640
IP Smart Delta 2 – 5010993370269
Jedi Knight Lightsaber – 5010993371655
Hot Wheels Millennium Falcon Playset – 0887961385328
Extendable Lightsaber RP Victor 1 – 5010993370528
There’s lots of information to look at here, but I’ll keep my observations brief this time:
- “RP” most likely refers to Kylo Ren, given the presence of mask and lightsaber products.
- If “Victor” is indeed Snoke, then the villain possesses a lightsaber of his own.
- The electronic plush beak thing most likely have to do with the Porgs, the birds of Ahch-To.
- If “Delta”, “Victor”, and “Foxtrot” are of any indication, the phonetic alphabet is being used to give code names to these products.
- One of the lightsaber products may be based on Obi-Wan’s weapon, as mentioned by Hasbro (hat tip 70DBounce2).
More news on The Last Jedi‘s merchandise as it breaks.
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How many Ep IV stormtroopers do they need to release? There are already at least four in circulation now. Also, any idea what SD is an initial for, for the one’s with the date? Start Date?
Poopy butthole?
Rick & Morty.
– Pomojema
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Mr. Poopy Butthole?
He could even stop his butthole from being poopy.
Mr Hanky killed him in his sleep.
Is it possible to learn these poopy’s ?
Not from a butthole.
His smell and form were thought to be…..unnatural.
Not from a butthole…
A 5 inch poopy butthole!!!
throne wll maybe it’s just poor old jabba
Jabba’s long dead by TLJ, though.
– Pomojema
Like quigon
But Qui-Gon is listed as an E1 figure here, not an E8 figure.
– Pomojema
Rottas will get his revenge on Leia for the death of his father.
Snoke looks so generic, i hope they give the character the look of a good villain
Wasn’t there a rumor a while ago that BDT’s character was named (or codenamed) Victor?
Could that be the Vaughn name we keep hearing?
Guards of Evil 4 pack? Knights of Ren? Maybe?
Could be knights of ren
or possibly just a 4 pack of the 4 main villians (Snoke, Kylo, Phasma and Hux).
I thought the Knights of Ren too, but I wouldn’t put it past Hasbro to put repacks of Kylo Ren and Phasma in with unique figures of the other two you mentioned. Or something like that. Knights of Ren would be nice though.
I think no matter what we wil be getting knights of ren figures for episode 8, even if they arent major parts of the film.
Im really interested in getting a clear image as to what they look like. Im suprised there werent clear images of them from the TFA. The concepct art in the Art Book does seem to be what the finsihed product is, but then again that not a garuntee.
I think that Victor could be Benicio Del Toro’s character name.
The throne part makes me feel it is Snoke.
Although Del Toro’s character could have a throne for all we know.
He could be vying for the throne.
Dig it, but I think we’ve got enough major players in the story that Del Toro will either be some new sleazy politician who enters the scene now that the New Republic is a mess or more than likely a bigger sleazeball on the casino planet, maybe someone who owns whatever place Finn and the others go to and ends up turning them in to the the First Order
While I think it is likely he will be a politician/ganagster character.
I feel if they are to introduce the knights of ren in this film, we would need one of them to be a character (since obviosuly there not enough screen time to explore all of them), and that could be Del Toros character.
Kind of like the Death Eaters in harry potter, they were a group but Bellatrix functioned as character for them.
The Bellatrix analogy actually makes a surprising amount of sense. I wouldn’t be surprised if perhaps they have a character who functions in that way who just doesn’t happen to be one of the big names. As long as the character is written well and they can convey that on screen I’m ok with anyone bringing it to life.
It’s not going to be a character name. It’s a placeholder. If Foxtrot relates to either Luke or Rey, and seemingly bears no obvious relevance to either, then Victor is likely to appear equally unlikely to whoever it represents.
Let the hype begin !! I’m loving it !
Wonder who ‘Poopy Butthole’ is?
a longtime family friend
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x_rVshpbywI
Well that looks like the most pointless thing since Beavis and Butthead.
in reality Rick & Morty is probably the most brilliant thing that has happened to Sci-Fi in the last couple of years. out of context, it does look like a bunch of mediocre animated nonsense, but man, it is so amazing. the sci-fi-fi element is surprisingly deep, with main heroes traveling constantly between a bunch of parallel realities, the humor is top notch and most of the main and supporting characters have real emotional depth (with Mr. Poopy Butthole being one of the most tragic characters on the show). highly recommended
lol
Victor and Foxtrot are almost certainly code names given that they are both part of the NATO phonetic alphabet. With that in mind Cool Beta is very likely to be as well.
Code name. Obviously. If Snoke’s real name is Victor, that’s fine, but I doubt it will be.
Snoke…Victor Snoke… (Start “Bond” theme)
If Snoke’s real name is Victor, this movie is in trouble.
Yes, because if the villain has a name you don’t like, the movie must be terrible.
I’ll bet the farm that Snoke is POOPY BUTTHOLE!
Nah…he’s the Meeseeks who couldn’t fix Jerry’s golf handicap – still alive!
Out for revenge for what that horrible Beth did to him.
Snoke is Jar-Jar! Oh….woops….SPOILER!
😉
Victor.. Might also be a code name, right? Victor=Winner
As victor, foxtrot and tango are all in the phonetic alphabet it wouldn’t seem worthwhile reading anything further into what they mean as only the primary character would seem to have any relevance.
Who is “V”, then?
Victor=V=villain?
Kylo Ren’s TIE Interceptor:
This is Kylo Ren’s TIE Interceptor:
https://i0.wp.com/makingstarwars.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/IMG_8383.jpg?w=636
Nice find. I don’t know why the Empire (or I guess First Order in this instance) always build fighters with wings which affect the pilots field of vision.
Becuz it looks Kewl
As stated, it is simply because it looks cool.
But in-universe. I would assume the computer systems of Tie fighters ect are sufficently advanced to detect if anything it coming for the sides (eg another ship or missle).
Pratically, the milleniuam falcon would be hard to fly because the cock pit is on the side.
yeah that’s a good point. It’d be like the Derek Zoolander of starships, can’t turn left.
“As stated, it is simply because it looks cool.”
And that’s as simple as it needs to get. Star Wars was never about feasible, workable technology. It was about stuff that was visually striking.
If you’re watching Star Wars and you’re losing sleep over the practicality of some of this technology, then you’re watching it wrong.
It’s all fly-by-sensor. It’s like flying in a submarine with a window in the front. You rely on your sensors for everything, including lining up your shots. For anyone that’s played TIE Fighter, you can see that it’s actually a pretty nice system, once you get used to it. You don’t have to constantly look around. You can just keep your eyes locked on your instruments and take in as much data as possible.
Whoa…this deserves an article of its own at some point soon. Look forward to more shots of the craft. 🙂
Sexy
Kylo’s ship is on the RESISTANCE logo, the other TIE has the First Ordre logo:
http://i.imgur.com/pdLRcGh.png http://i.imgur.com/S453ON1.png
Kylo’s ship is on the RESISTANCE logo:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/19/1494235808-s453on1.png https://i.imgur.com/pdLRcGh.png
Beta, Victor, Foxtrot, Guards of Evil, Poopy Butthole lol. Those are just codenames. They arent real names of the action figures. Relax lol
Victor….I like that, go with it, instead of Snoke…lol
kylo ren interceptor looks good, i hope we see snoke fighting with a lightsaber
i kill myself if this is true
Act III
Ducain, Finn and Rose infiltrate Snoke’s Star Destroyer. Finn is nearly recognized. BB8 begins searching the ship’s database for where Leia is being held. Stormtroopers arrest the trio.
Rey has a nightmare. Luke is awake looking at the sky. Rey confesses she can not kill Kylo Ren. Luke is surprised but does not try to convince her either way. Rey tells Luke she can feel his thoughts. She has for a while. She tells Luke she thinks he’s coming.
On Mustafar Kylo Ren meets with his Knights. They are all selecting weapons and sparring. Kylo addresses them, telling them that Luke is a more formidable opponent than any they have ever faced. He warns them. “They know we’re coming”
Rose and Ducain wait in a cell. Finn is held captive and his mind “downloaded”, revealing the secret of the hidden base. Phasma reports this to Hux who mobilizes the First Order Navy.
In the cell, Rose realizes how the door works and causes it to short circuit. She and Ducain break out and meet up with BB8.
Luke sits on a rock overlooking the sea. The sky grows darker. A storm brews in the distance. Rey and Luke have a conversation about the Force. Luke is the most peaceful he’s been since Rey arrived. Rey asks Luke why he went away.
On Crait Holdo is alerted the First Order has arrived. Deflector shields hold against an areal assault but a ground invasion begins. Walkers are spotted on the horizon. Holdo panics and orders an evacuation. Poe convinces her they’d all be killed in the event of an evacuation. Holdo finally surrenders control to Poe and asks what they should do. Poe has an idea.
A bomb goes off in a corridor drawing Stormtrooper attention. Ducain and Rose bust Finn out. They meet back up with BB8 and are told where Leia is being held.
Luke warns Rey that whatever connection she has with Kylo Ren is not a good one. He tells her when he arrives he will try to kill her, and she would do well to preserve her life by killing him. Rey confesses to Luke her parents traded her for a ship to escape Jakku. She asks how she can possibly kill the person she’s dreamt about since she was a child. The only human she’d ever had a connection with.
Luke has no answer.
Poe addresses the pilots of the Resistance telling them they are going to use the old mineral hauling vehicles as a weapon.
The vehicles fly out and drop the dense mineral on top of the walkers, causing them to plummet. The evacuation transports go to light speed inside the atmosphere. Poe escapes on the last one. Holdo dies when a transport is shot down by a Star Destroyer.
Finn, Rose, and Ducain all make their way to Leia’s cell. Snoke orders Leia’s cell gassed.
A fleet of TIE fighters approach on the horizon. Luke asks Rey if she is ready.
Rose breaks into the database and sees Leia’s cell is being poisoned. She frantically tries to stop it.
It rains again. Kylo Ren and his Knights stand before Luke. Kylo Ren declares this is the day the Jedi end.
Luke closes his eyes. Lightning strikes at the feet of the closest Knight. He flies into the darkness off the cliff.
Kylo is not phased. The Knights are clearly shaken.
Rey appears. Kylo declares she is his and they fight. Luke sends lightning from the sky to another Knight, and then draws his lightsaber.
Kylo Ren and Rey duel but neither is trying to kill the other. They both feel the connection flowing back and forth. Kylo Ren disarms Rey and after asking who she is angrily as she clings to a cliff for dear life, is swarmed by the birds. Rey pulls herself up and Kylo Ren stands ready to fight both Luke and Rey. Reybegins hearing the voices of the birds. Before Kylo Ren and Luke can fight, she screams out for them not to.
Finn, Rose, and Ducain arrive at Leia’s cell but can not open it in time. As gas begins to leak out of the bottom, Ducain convinces the group to leave. They steal a shuttle.
Kylo Ren falls to his knees. Luke does too. Leia is gone.
The trio escape on a stolen shuttle.
Kylo flees on his TIE fighter. Luke and Rey decide to board the Falcon.
Snoke summons General Hux. He tells him it’s time he lived up to his family name, crafts a lightsaber, and gives it to Hux. Hux lights it up. It’s BLACK.
There is a funeral on an earth like planet. Luke stands by Rey but Rey leaves the procession. Luke tells Finn and Poe not to go after her. He asks Maz Kanata if she is sure about this.
Rey retreats down an alley. Kylo Ren stands there.
She demands he get out of her head.
He demands the same.
Rey says she doesn’t know what’s going on. She embraces Kylo. Kylo says he does not either, but he promises he will kill Snoke
WOAH
Where did you find that?
on youtube
Plot leaks? Really? And Duncain is supposed to be Del Toro’s character, right? Where can I find it?
for me its ultra fake but some things are true, well at least it gives your mind something to play with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1pJZNzFSvk&t=34s
I see.
Some parts fit with some of the footage from the teaser actually.
Reddit /starwarsspeculation
OK.
Do you believe some of it tho?
I want to believe it, as I’ve mentioned before, if this is fanfic, it is very well done, it takes into account all the rumors heard, some obscure stuff like Laura Dern’s character being a totally useless commander, the rumor about Luke not having any action in this movie, (Hamill has said he didn’t like his character in this one again) and Finn and Rose spending the movie together. So, maybe it is just a very well put together fanfic, maybe he knows something we don’t.
Yes, it is very well done, even if it is completely fictional. It is a pretty boring plot though.
That’s what I’m afraid of, that some of it turns out to be true, like Luke and Rey spending the whole movie arguing in the rain, like a 2 hour Dagobah scene
Huh? If that’s boring I’d love to see what you think is exciting… middle films are about character development. Sounds amazing to me, and it fits a lot of early shoot testimony from Ireland. Doesn’t seem like they would kill Leia tho…
Fake! 🙂
You need a spoiler alert on this article!
RP means role play.