Alden Ehrenreich Talks Young Chewbacca.


Variety caught up with actor Alden Ehrenreich, who will play the most famous scruffy-looking nerf herder in Phil Lord’s and Chris Miller’s second stand alone movie. The actor was promoting his new movie Rules Don’t Apply and briefly talked about his next project, simply titled Han Solo for now, which should start filming in London early next year.



From Variety:



On how much he is allowed to say about the movie:

“I’m allowed to say that I’m really excited about Donald Glover’s casting” he shared, in reference to the news last week that the “Atlanta” star would be playing a young Lando Calrissian in the much-anticipated untitled origin story due in 2018.

“I think he’s going to be great in the role because he’s such a talented and interesting guy. And I can say that Chewbacca’s in the film, although I know that’s not a huge spoiler.”



On if we can expect a difference younger Chewbacca:

“He’s as much younger as I am in the film,” he joked. “So, I think he’s like 190 — or something — years old. I don’t think there’s a huge growth spurt for him from 190 to 210, so he’s probably about the same height.”



We’ve seen from The Force Awakens that Wookiees don’t change much over a 30-year period, so we shouldn’t expect big changes for the Han Solo movie as well.


Peter Mayhey and Joonas Suotamo


It will be interesting to see if Peter Mayhew will return to play Chewie for the close up scenes as he did for The Force Awakens, and if actor Joonas Suotamo will put the fury costume once again for the action sequences.


A few months ago Peter Mayhew teased that he will have a big announcement for the fans. Many speculated that he will announce his involvement with Han Solo, but he is yet to reveal what this was all about.



Han Solo is scheduled to hit theaters on May 25, 2018. Just 5 months after Star Wars: Episode VIII.



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117 thoughts on “Alden Ehrenreich Talks Young Chewbacca.

  • November 12, 2016 at 6:34 pm

    Well, at least Chewie won’t be in any way distracting….unlike Han & Lando.

    Would it be so hard to at least get Harrison and Billy Dee to bookend the thing to “young Indy” it?

    • November 12, 2016 at 7:34 pm

      Two actors palying Chewie, not distracting?
      I’ve been watching Star wars movies over and over for nearly 40yrs now and I can tell when it’s Mayhew or not.

      Diminishing his performance to ‘just a man in a suit’ is an insult.

      • November 12, 2016 at 7:45 pm

        I think Mayhew is training that guy in the ways of Chewie to be his replacement. So at least there is a passing of the baton happening

        • November 12, 2016 at 9:22 pm

          Yeah, clearly, and I feel Joonas respected what he was being asked to do, so all props and good luck to him. The fact is though, Chewie moves the way he does because of Mayhew’s particular build, particular biometrics, and particular natural physical inclinations. Anyone else in the suit is naturally going to move differently, and it will always be noticeable. Not wrong or bad, but noticeable.

          • November 13, 2016 at 4:57 am

            I bet if you didn’t know who was in the suit, you wouldn’t notice.

          • November 13, 2016 at 8:11 am

            Hmmmmm maybe, if you’ve watched the films a million times you might be able to notice whether the original actor is in the suit or not even if they didn’t tell you.

            That would be quite impressive though. The only reason I could tell which parts Peter were in was because I know Peter can’t walk very well. Also, you can kind of tell the scenes with Joonas in the suit because he seems to look down more often than Peter did, and he kind of slouches a bit more. I could be crazy, but that’s just my guess and observation. Obviously the scenes on Starkiller Base where he’s running around planting bombs is Joonas, he doesn’t seem to be slouching as much in those scenes either compared to the scenes with Kanjiklub.

          • November 13, 2016 at 10:26 am

            Peter’s Chewbacca has a very distinctive, knock-kneed walk/run. When you realise this, the difference is evident as Cole said.
            There’s a story from back in the days of the original trilogy where they tried to use someone else as he (PM) wasn’t on set and didn’t because of this.
            Think it was filming on Empire in cloud city.

          • November 14, 2016 at 9:21 am

            I mean, I hope you didn’t bet anything good. I had no idea there was such a thing as a “Joonas” before I saw the film – LFL didn’t say anything about it, just that Mayhew was back. However Chewie on Starkiller simply doesn’t move like Peter Mayhew. Even a little. I’m not going to fault you if you can’t see it, but I’ll thank you not to act like a pretentious douche about it if I did.

          • November 14, 2016 at 10:14 pm

            Nothing I said was of the pretentious douche variety and I will thank you not to call me names for simply suggesting you only saw it because you are looking for it.

            Engage in civil discourse or be ignored.

    • November 12, 2016 at 8:36 pm

      Should they have digitally dropped in Alec Guiness in RoTS to book end Ewan McGregor?

      Actors have portrayed characters that other actors have performed before. I don’t understand why there’s this weird obsession with Harrison Ford being replaced for this film by a young man who has been selected from what, a thousand actors?

      I truly hope this goes the way of

      • November 13, 2016 at 7:58 am

        a blonde Bond? perish the thought! 😉

        • November 13, 2016 at 8:45 am

          That site came down the day Casino Royale came out. Crazy.

          I don’t know why everyone needs to doom and gloom movies before they hit. If it sucks when it comes, say it. It sucks. I’ll agree. I walked out of Crystal Skull swearing. I tell people when they come to my home that if they mention the name of that movie out loud they will be taken out back and stoned.

          But I wasn’t upset until I saw it.

  • November 12, 2016 at 7:18 pm

    He’s in RotS……shouldn’t they use that and ANH for comparison for Chewie?

    • November 12, 2016 at 8:42 pm

      I’d rather they ignore the fake-fur handle-bar moustache Chewie from RoTS.

      • November 12, 2016 at 8:56 pm

        Well my point is more in that Chewie isn’t portrayed as some young buck in that, so he’s not going to be any different from the ANH portrayal.

      • November 12, 2016 at 9:19 pm

        How about the fake-fur mustache from RotJ? Where are we on that?

        • November 13, 2016 at 1:55 am

          OT fans only insult PT movies, remember.

          • November 13, 2016 at 3:56 am

            There’s no need to fracture Star Wars fans into different groups. I am a Star Wars fan, period.

            I think the Prequel Trilogy is terrible.

            You’re welcome to like it as much as you want to.

            But being bitter with other people for thinking it’s garbage isn’t helpful either.

        • November 13, 2016 at 11:36 am

          The original trilogy costumes were made of mohair.

      • November 13, 2016 at 3:28 am

        I always hated Chewie’s look in RotS….. I can’t put my finger on it… I think it may be the way his mouth never closed…. it was always half open… again.. i can’t really put my finger on it… just looked odd TT_TT

        • November 13, 2016 at 8:15 am

          The RoTS Chewie does have a shinier almost fake looking fur compared to the other 4. He must have had better shampoo and conditioner on Kashyyyk as well as showers designed for Wookiees. 😉

          • November 13, 2016 at 12:16 pm

            lol! well there is something off 😛

            I would imagine they probably shed.. or bath in natural waters.. idk 😛

  • November 12, 2016 at 7:33 pm

    Two actors palying Chewie, not distracting?
    I’ve been watching Star wars movies over and over for nearly 40yrs now and I can tell when it’s Mayhew or not.

    To diminish his performance to ‘just a man in a suit’ is an insult.

  • November 12, 2016 at 8:13 pm

    i really love Peter Mayhew enormous contribution in the saga and it’s a pity he has such those physical problems. And I wish he can do more shots in the upcoming movies. He really deserves it.

    But I have to say Joonas nailed the running movements and head expressions. What a great character was Chewie in TFA. He is one of my favourites in the film for sure.

    • November 12, 2016 at 9:18 pm

      Huh, see, I found an obvious difference in the physical performances – Peter was in the cockpit, Joonas was everything else. Think we all covered this months ago, but while there’s nothing wrong with a different performance, and to keep the character involved in the films it’s sadly a necessity, I did find a noticeable difference between them.

      • November 12, 2016 at 9:30 pm

        Especially not hugging Leia, maybe the new Chewie did’t recognize her 😉

        • November 13, 2016 at 8:05 am

          Hahahaaa that’s pretty good actually.

          I always figured Chewie just had something better to do and headed straight to the D’Qar bar after talking to some of his Resistance friends. He didn’t want to deal with Leia’s emotional crap at that moment. Too much stress for a 200 something year old wookiee. 😉

  • November 12, 2016 at 9:23 pm

    If there is good chemistry between the young Solo, Lando, and Chewie, then I’m all in.

  • November 12, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    I went from “ugh” and “unnecessary” to downright excited. I’m hoping for a Trilogy or a Lando soon off. I hate the summer release though. Let Star Wars be an annual December thing.

    • November 12, 2016 at 11:40 pm

      I won’t be surprised if that date changes to December. It’s highly likely.

    • November 13, 2016 at 12:18 am

      Battle of Tanaab!

  • November 12, 2016 at 11:44 pm

    I can’t wait to see the relationship between Han and Chewie. Best buddy cop duo out there. They were really good in The Force Awakens.

    Until I ended Han Solo that is

    • November 13, 2016 at 1:02 am

      they were fantastic in tfa and then JJ killed Han by his son’s hands

  • November 13, 2016 at 1:03 am

    Death of Han was such a negative shit in this amazing universe

  • November 13, 2016 at 1:37 am

    I gonna tell u a history: I’ve been teaching SW to my son since he was 1 years old in 2007, he had the toys, school gear, he was very into the great Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars and all Filoni’s seasons . Understanding step by step the discipline and balance of the Force . We watched the prequels to the originals in one of this many weekends. He really got the idea of Luke getting out of his father’s karma. He saw the decline of a hero to be a cybermonster but even then trying to have his son by his side. We cheered togheter when Luke took out his father’s mask and carry him out of Death Star . SO …YOU CAN IMAGINE MY EXPERIENCE OF WAITING YEARS TO FINALLY TOOK MY SON WITH ME TO WATCH EPISODE 7 LIKE MANY FATHERS AND SONS DID. AND WE WATCHED TOGHETER THE COOLEST CHARACTER AND A PRINCESS BEING BAD PARENTS(?!) AND THEIR PSEUDO EVIL SON KILLING HIM JUST TO IMPRESS AN AUDIENCE WITH A PLOT TWIST OR SOME NEW SCREENPLAY SCHOOL OF GAME OF THRONE VIOLENT SHIT. DAMM U J.J. TO SPREAD, ONCE AGAIN, MASSIVE DEATH AND PATRICIDE TO WORLDWIDE MINDS, WE DIDNT NEED THIS PLOT ON EP7 THE MOST ATENCIPATED MOVIE OF MY LIFETIME

    • November 13, 2016 at 1:43 am


      • November 13, 2016 at 1:55 am

        am I wrong? Ep7 has a good screenplay and ideas for all original and new characters?

    • November 13, 2016 at 2:00 am

      in my opinion only EP8 plot could save us all of this messy storyline. If not…f****k they had all the old books stories , comics, all the best writers and choose this sad plot and this loser end of Han and Leia

      • November 13, 2016 at 1:59 pm

        Rian Johnson ain’t a guy to do rehashes. I firmly believe that TFA was primarily aimed at bringing back the old audience whilst welcoming the new audience. Why would Disney risk a financial loss with one of their new properties, using untested story ideas and what have you. They would want to replicate something that has been proven to work, proven to make money. In saying that however, they absolutely had to ensure that the new cast moving forward would be likeable and if you ask me, they nailed that dynamic between Finn, Poe and Rey. It was infectious. That’s what was important, getting the characters right. Now it’s time to explore the depths of these characters in new and unexplored ways. Rian is more than capable of making that happen. And he wouldn’t want it any other way. Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.

        • November 13, 2016 at 6:15 pm

          TFA is like Stranger Things or JJ’s Super8 , in sense of being a homage and rehash, I got that . But Star Wars doesnt need that to get the younger generation that grew up on Clone Wars, The Force Unleashed and merchandisings …on film replication. They want to see lightsaber action like The Old Republic videogame cinematics, not that plain old school scene between Rey and Kylo. And for us, old fanbase we wanted a VERY COOL AND MAGIC AND CLEVER sequence for our OT character and we didnt get that on the first film of the new trilogy, we got some depressive shit , I ask you why?

        • November 13, 2016 at 6:23 pm

          But I love REY, I love REY ok 🙂

    • November 13, 2016 at 2:01 am

      Episode VII was enjoyed by a lot of people. To the tune of two billion dollars. Sorry you didn’t like it.

      • November 13, 2016 at 2:07 am

        Re: “Episode VII was enjoyed by a lot of people. To the tune of two billion dollars. Sorry you didn’t like it.”

        The same can & should be said to those who complain about the prequel trilogy.

        • November 13, 2016 at 3:28 am

          None of those movies made two billion dollars.

          • November 13, 2016 at 3:36 am

            Re: “None of those movies made two billion dollars”
            And I didn’t say that.

            Re-read what I was referring to – “about the prequel trilogy”.
            Large box office take (example: ~2B), enjoyed by a lot of people, sorry someone didn’t like it.

          • November 13, 2016 at 4:02 am

            That’s clearer than your first statement.

            But why does it matter? Why are you even bringing up the Prequels? You guys really need to get over the fact that people don’t like those films. Like them, love them, watch them every day and celebrate they were made. Share them with your friends, your family, your children. Create tiny tin foil men from gum wrappers and dress them up as the Jedi Council.

            I will still dislike those movies. As will other people. That will not change. Don’t take it personally. There are people who don’t like Episode VII. I really enjoy it. I don’t care if people don’t like it. But I’ll happily discuss why they feel it sucks if they throw out a comment here on the forums.

            But if you just tell me you don’t like it? I’m not going to tell you you’re wrong to not like it. If you tell me it’s a terrible movie, I’ll debate you, as I believe that moves beyond opinion when one can examine the reasons most people cite.

          • November 13, 2016 at 4:34 am

            I got what he was suggesting in his first comment.

            *Cue the awkward silence.*

            Everybody has their opinions and opinions vary from person to person. Debates are endless not to mention tiresome. Why bother?

          • November 13, 2016 at 5:28 am

            Episode VII brought in 2 billion alone.

            When you add all three prequel movie box offices together, you get 2.4. I guess I didn’t understand his comparison when you have to present a whole trilogy together to exceed the intake of one film.

            I won’t argue that all three of the prequels were very successful, made a lot of money, and people enjoy them. But this is where my confusion in his statement lay.

            I believe I addressed opinions and how everyone has them in our posts here.

            Debates are endless and tiresome, yet we all come to a discussion forum to have them.

            And I never understand why people fight for the right to be critical of something, but then not expect someone to debate them on their criticism. I don’t get it.

            So the fella whom I replied to claims that Episode VII is so awful it ruined something special for him and his son. Alright. That sucks. That’s his opinion.

            But you post that..on the a discussion forum and what? No one replies? Or we just say “okay”?

            Then the fellow who up voted you but didn’t bother to reply to my own post brings up the prequels when..they’re not even the topic of discussion. And again, I’m just supposed to say “okay”?

            I suppose you wanted me say “alright” to your post too, even though you asked me a question that predisposes me to debate you.

            If you don’t like what I say, ignore me. It’s fairly simple. I ignore all sorts of posts here I never respond to. You could have ignored mine. Instead, you chose to have a debate, or discussion, however you’d like to frame it.

          • November 13, 2016 at 6:18 am

            “to debate you” Ehhhh. Please don’t say that again.

            The Prequel films still made a fair amount of money given the reception they received. That’s the point he was making. If they were as bad as people made them out to be then you’d expect a much smaller number in B.O. earnings. I enjoyed them for what they were but that wasn’t the point either. The Ol’ adage comes to mind – Numbers don’t lie. The Force Awakens was 10 years later and it’s even more of a revelation that it made over $2Billion given the wave it was riding off of, I.e. The prequel trilogy. Which raises a number of questions as to why that happened.

            I posted a response purely out of observation, of your discussion which was only going to grow badly and eventually, two girls would be pulling each other’s hair. I merely indicated to you the climactic outcome, the end result of your discussion/debate with the other guy. It’s a waste of energy. I’m not debating with you and that’s how I’m framing this response. Debates can be good but a lot of the time they can be unnecessarily dragged out for long periods of time.

            Clearly you like to debate things. You turned what was basically a piece of advice into one of the longest responses I’ve seen in a while. Again, It’s a waste of energy, dude. So you’re welcome.

            P.s. You seem to have trouble picking up on things. It was a rhetorical question. Why would I want your response? Sure, it’s the Internet and things can’t be taken at face value, but seriously? (Don’t answer that)

            P.s.s. Ignore the irony.

          • November 13, 2016 at 7:43 am

            It was hardly rhetorical, especially if you answered to my reply.

            Episode VII did not ride on the wave of the prequels; it rode on a wave of nostalgia. The film advertised heavily on elements that were all OT. The Falcon; original cast members, TIE Fighters, Stormtroopers, villains that weren’t the Empire but damn well looked like it. And as it has been discussed to death on these forums over the past year, the film mirrors Episode IV heavily.

            There was distinct lack of anything prequel in the film, its advertising, and the trailers. The Prequel Posse here has complained about it ad nauseum.

            So despite your condescending direction on how I failed to interpret your response, you did not address my question to both the second poster, and yourself. Why even bring up the prequels when the ORIGINAL poster is complaining about VII? Because the butthurt endures that people don’t like the prequels. They weren’t even being DISCUSSED in this conversation, yet someone felt they needed to make a point that the prequels should be defended. Even though…it’s not what’s being discussed. And what more, the amount of money they made has no bearing on his complaint? That VII is such a terrible film?

            Answering you, or anyone else, isn’t a waste of energy to me, I find it to be entertaining. If someone chooses to engage me, I will respond. If you don’t want a response from me, don’t respond to my post.

            If you posted, you took an action, you intervened and brought yourself in the middle of the discussion. You’re no longer observing. If you had actually kept to observation, you wouldn’t have bothered making a post.

            Why would you want my response? To try and demean me as you just attempted to since you obviously think the comment that brought about your interjection was inappropriate.

          • November 13, 2016 at 11:45 am

            How much does a keyboard warrior make? Coz maybe Lab Med was a bad career choice. I posted because I saw where that conversation was going, where it inevitably goes most of the time. id stick to being an observer but I’ve seen you before and you don’t know when to shut up. So when I say I was “merely making my an observation”, that does not mean that I am now excluded from making comments. You are too literal in a situation that doesn’t require such a response in the first place. I had to make that post, for all our sakes. But hey, I’m not going to take away a child’s hobby.

            You have an axe to grind it seems, regarding the prequel films. Your stubbornness will keep you from seeing differently so I’m not even going to bother wasting my time trying to help you see the light (pun intended). I’ll leave you with this: What were the last Star Wars films to be released prior to The Force Awakens? This is a real brain masher of a question.

            I’m not trying to demean you, fella, but you decided to take it up a notch when all I simply said was that I understood what the guy was inferring and then I added a simple bit of “advice” on people’s opinions and how they differ. Because the prequel trilogy has caused a lot of divisiveness amongst the fans and it’s an ugly thing. I wish he never brought it up in the first place. Look at what it created.

            Clearly you’re happy to have lengthy discussions and debate topics, even when the person didn’t ask for your opinion. So a person like you and I aren’t going to see eye to eye. Let’s cool it and let it be.

            However Im sure you’ll respond to this with an even longer response, proving me wrong. Can’t wait.

          • November 13, 2016 at 12:10 pm

            *Standing ovation*
            My god you two can sure go at it! Yes I actually read all of that!

            Oh no… I’ve commented. I’m no longer an observer! Nooo I’ve been sucked into this endless vortex… of text!

          • November 13, 2016 at 2:04 pm

            My Carpal tunnel syndrome is flaring up big time tonight.

          • November 13, 2016 at 6:07 pm

            Your comment is benign.

          • November 13, 2016 at 5:56 pm

            Your posting on an open debate forum. You’re going to be engaged by people who have a different opinion than your own.

            The only person who has an ax to grind here is you. You admitted as much when you stated you had a problem with how I respond to certain people. So who exactly is the keyboard warrior white knighting for someone who tried to interject something as meaningless as how much money the prequels made at the box office when they weren’t even being discussed?

            I don’t like the prequels, but I don’t attack people for liking them. What I do is point out when a small group of people on these forums runs around waving the prequels around in every conversation because they feel threatened and defensive that there are fans who don’t like them. Even when they aren’t the topic of discussion. And quite frankly, I’m tired of talking about them.

            Had I attacked the prequels in my very first response, the post discussing their box office profits would have been merited. But we’re talking about Episode VII here and what a “terrible” movie it is.

            Now we’re talking about how you don’t like how I post and your attempt to dictate how people should respond to others opinions in a discussion forum that is, believe it or not, moderated.

            And trust me, I’ve been moderated in the past. If someone up there wants me to stop, I do. You’re not a mod, nor are you half as clever as you believe yourself to be.

            Posting up an opinion in these threads is going to get you a response; very few people ask for one but everyone knows if they state something it’s likely there is a person here with a contrary opinion that will engage them. It’s not magic. Or a mystery. It’s the internet. On a forum. About a major IP that people invest a substantial amount of time and money. Tempers flare, frustrations occur, yet the world keeps spinning.

            But hey, guy, you didn’t ask for my opinion. I didn’t ask for your advice. Or your observation. See how that works? Crazy enough, you gave it anyways. Twice.

            You’re welcome to stop responding to me. And I don’t need a pretentious gimmick in my post to alert you to the fact that you won’t be able to resist making another post.

            But hey, if you don’t, I’ll happily admit I’m wrong. And then ignore your posts like I do many others here from now on.

          • November 13, 2016 at 9:21 pm

            Why don’t you become a mod? Your temper fired up when a guy brought up the prequel trilogy, but, oh no, this thread was about TFA being a terrible movie. How dare he, right?

            I’ve been enjoying this little debate quite a bit, sir. Ironically. Looking back at where all of this started and it’s clear you don’t like not having an opinion on things which is fair enough. This isn’t a prison. I don’t think it matters how I said it, the fact is somebody didn’t agree with you. You were always going to respond even when I made a fairly simple and Harmless comment. Just look at what you responded with to my first comment. Seriously, dude, look at it right now. I’m not attacking you or name calling you. I would think somebody with as much internet experience as you would be desensitised by the back and forth banter. Rebuttle (because “It’s the Internet”)?

          • November 13, 2016 at 9:22 pm

            Thanks for proving my point.

          • November 13, 2016 at 1:03 pm

            Ep VII certainly did not ride on the PT wave. On contrary, they kept emphasizing that its nothing like the PT.

          • November 13, 2016 at 2:02 pm

            “they kept emphasising that its nothing like the PT.”

            The prequel films left a bad taste in the mouths of fans and to the “general audience” it just wasn’t what they remembered from the Original trilogy. Disney is in the business of making movies, among other things, and businesses want money, first and foremost. Of course they’re not going to want people thinking it’s just another prequel trilogy-esque film. Perhaps riding the wave was a poor choice in words (sorry, Joker), but my point is that those were the last films that people saw in theatres and casual moviegoers (the majority of the group) most likely aren’t going to watch the SW films again and again, unlike us. So when TFA made $2billion in B.O., it was a huge success. Whether or not that was due to nostalgia alone it was a success. The marketing/advertising for TFA was extremely clever and so the hate surrounding the prequel films probably didn’t really matter at that point. Because people were being promised that TFA was designed with the Orignal trilogy films in mind. Which have nothing but love from the people who watch them.

            Forget the “Ride the wave” bit. I fucked up there. I’m saying that the prequel films certainly could have had a huge affect on the financial success of TFA had they not have constantly reaffirmed fans that it was going to be visually similar to the Orignal trilogy films let alone having the original cast.

            But still, it’s not to say that the prequel films were a total failure. The prequel trilogy was originally brought up because a guy had basically said that strong B.O. Growth means people really enjoyed the movie. But 10 years earlier, the prequel trilogy brought in a good amount of coin and yet, their is plenty of disagreement about those films. Money doesn’t measure quality.

          • November 13, 2016 at 6:06 pm

            They had a strong box office growth. All three films together are needed to beat the box office gross of ONE film.

            Money can and does measure the quality of a film, or at least how much an audience enjoys it. The Transformers movies are awful, yet most of still go and watch them when they come out because explosion porn. People enjoy the films, even if they’re garbage.

            If Episode VII was terrible, it wouldn’t have made 2 billion dollars. The total was not from a collection of single view ticket sales. That number is the result of people going back to see it again and again. And not just a small number of hardcore fans, but a majority of those who went.

            Episode I was the same way. People saw it a lot. Attack of the Clones slipped dramatically in its gross, which indicates that people were unhappy that Lucas continued with the direction he had been going with Episode I.

            Then you have III, which bounced back up. The PG-13 rating had helped, and it is a better movie than at least II, some can and may argue I.

            The prequels were not a total failure in my opinion. But they weren’t good films, either. They did expand the Star Wars universe in a way that the OT would never be able to capture because of the time frame it was created and budget limitations.

          • November 13, 2016 at 9:30 pm

            I’d agree, in that say Episode II was collateral damage. But Episode III was the tying up of the Star Wars Saga, most importantly, Darth Vader. I mean it was a good flick anyway, but those kind of aspects brought asses into seats. Each of them didn’t make $2Billion in Box Office but maybe because they were just bad movies. You’d think If Titanic could pull in the numbers it did then why couldn’t the Star Wars film, after many years pull it off too? I’m starting to realise again just how much opportunity they had to make a lot MORE money. I don’t think it’s fair to say that money measures a quality film. Entertainment value and like you say, explosion porn, can make for a fine product that reels people into the movies. Civil War isn’t a great movie, story-wise, characters are so-so, but Marvel has been building up a product and they know how to sell it to an audience.

            P.s. I think I saw TFA 5 times. Loved it because it’s Star Wars.

          • November 13, 2016 at 10:22 pm

            Well remember. After the anger over Episode I Lucas entered his “I’m doing what I want to do f— anyone who has an opinion about my art” phase. He doubled down on what he started in One and we got Clones; a movie most of the Anti-Prequel folk deems to be the worst of the three (including me).

            In III he finally backed off some, but by that time it was too late for certain aspects of the film to connect with the audience. Anakin and Padme’s romance was void of emotion. It was actually a great idea to have Anakin fall in love and secretly marry a woman and cross to the Dark Side out of his love for her. Except almost no one believed Anakin and Padme were in love because of the performances from both actors. So in the end, it was like whot?

            Anakin and Obi-Wan never got their bromance on either to really feel a pang after the most epic Lightsaber fight in any of the films. It was awesome to watch, but I know I didn’t feel like wow, that must have been really hard for both of them.

            Order 66. Cuts both ways. On the one hand, the Deus Ex Machina aspect of it makes sense. Jedi are all over the galaxy, you’re not going to have one Sith chasing them all down and murdering’m. Makes sense to have the Clones execute them.

            Only at the time, the Clones were again, emotionless CGI renderings that none of us had formed a bond with. So we saw some Jedi that we may or may not have had some feelings for based on their performances through out the trilogy, be murdered by faceless drones.

            Today, that feeling is different. If you’ve watched the Clone Wars, you have more attachment to the Clones who were given wonderful personalities and unique behaviors. What more, there were all sorts of episodes featuring the Jedi looking after their soldiers with warmth and compassion, treating them like people instead of tools. It gives 66 more gravitas.

            But ever since Obi-Wan first told Luke that his pupil Darth Vader, betrayed and murdered the Jedi…I mean, the kid sequence in the Temple was pretty bad ass. But we didn’t know those kids. They were children, Anakin murdered them. That’s hardcore. But we didn’t know those children.

            I still feel we should have seen Anakin put down at least half the Jedi Council, in the Council Chambers. It would have had more impact I think, instead of red eyes and a few shots of him with Clone Troopers.

            I saw TFA 5 times too. I really like. It’s not a great film, but it’s solid. We’re off to a good start.

          • November 13, 2016 at 11:22 pm

            Damn, you’re almost likeable! I agree wholeheartedly. I was 5 when The Phantom Menace was released so my expectations weren’t hard to meet. Some laser beams here, cool sounds there and I enjoyed it. Jokes aside, I haven’t really sat down to mull over the Prequel films in detail but I’ve watched them plenty of times and I’m always seeing flaws or things that could’ve have been better but more so, as you pointed out, weakness in the plot and character development. Like, Anakin had so many bad lines in Revenge of the Sith, for example, “Don’t make me destroy you”. Although perhaps Hayden Christensen is to blame. I certainly think they could have been much better films but I saw them at a young age and it’ll always be an unexplainably special thing for me.

            I continue to believe that The Force Awakens had much more important responsibilities than just being a great story. it needed to hook people back into Star Wars and it did so rather successfully. I think Episode 8 is going to surprise us all.

            After all that mess I think we found common ground.

          • November 14, 2016 at 7:33 pm

            Christensen is to blame. I’m sure he’s a nice guy. He’s not a very good actor. George is very visual, he chose the actor he felt LOOKED like Anakin and seemed to throw out any notion that delivering the wonky lines that tend to come out of a Star Wars movie wasn’t a big deal.

            There are tons of crap lines from the OT that have become memes unto themselves for years, but really, are pretty stupid when you think about it.

            One of my favorite is “You look strong enough to pull the ears off a Gundarc.” Ford nailed the line, which is just dumb. Referencing a creature we’ve never seen before in a really odd act since here in reality there’s nothing that comes close to it. Who pulls the ears off anything as a test of strength? Yet Ford made it believable.

            Hayden was garbage. I don’t think George’s direction helped either.

            There’s plenty of common ground to be had here. We’re all Star Wars fans. I just don’t pull punches, and I’m blunt. I don’t hate anyone here, I do dislike a few but McCrankyface blocked me months ago so we don’t engage like we once did.

            You’re always welcome to critique or argue about anything I post. Just prepare for a discussion.

        • November 13, 2016 at 7:56 am

          the go to example here is avatar which is #1 of all time but gets ridiculed all the time. except by me, i still like it.

          • November 13, 2016 at 6:09 pm

            I like Avatar just fine.

          • November 13, 2016 at 10:23 pm

            Re: “avatar which is #1 of all time but gets ridiculed all the time”
            I also like Avatar & find it sad to see people bashing it, particularly in the wishes that EpVII would’ve beat it at box office.
            OP rationale I was commenting on, re-affirmed in another pose (“box office = good movie”), would indicate Avatar & Titanic is better than TFA. 😉

          • November 13, 2016 at 10:50 pm

            Taking into account inflation its “Gone with the Wind” at no.1 and ‘Avatar’ is surprisingly at no.15, if my source is correct.

          • November 14, 2016 at 12:24 am

            I’m not going down that rabbit hole again. 😉

      • November 13, 2016 at 12:36 pm

        What did the OT make, if you’re throwing numbers around as a measure of quality?

        • November 13, 2016 at 5:39 pm

          Again, Prequel Posse. What does the relevance that any of the other films make to this guy complaining about VII being a poorly written script and crappily filmed movie?

          • November 13, 2016 at 8:58 pm

            Well its his opinion, even if its way off the mark.

            In regard to ‘Prequel Posse’ that terms simply suggests you’re a hater, simple as that. I like the Prequels for what they are, not as good as they should of been, but moving on. OT is my favourite simply because I grew up with them. The new sequels, well to early to say after only one film which was great but still had its flaws, much like all Star Wars film, or any film made ever to be honest.

            However, you raised the subject of box office receipts as a measure of quality, so i presumed you would know the numbers on the OT.

          • November 13, 2016 at 9:20 pm

            I do know the numbers for the OT. But they’re as relevant as the numbers for the prequels.

            I do not like the prequels. I say that a lot. But I’m not a hater. The Prequel Posse is a crew of people who run around these forums whining about how much people don’t like the prequels and how that’s unfair no matter what the topic pertains to. Then they up vote each other like they’re in a special club together. Hence I’ve given them a moniker, the Prequel Posse.

          • November 13, 2016 at 10:29 pm

            So if its relevant as are you suggesting, then not taking into account inflation TFA exceeds all other films in the franchise and is thus the best in quality?

            ok – well I’m not aware if I am up voting in that manner, tend to scroll through briefly and ‘like’ those with a similar way of thinking (based on one comment). Which is kinda how the boards are suppose to work is it not?

          • November 13, 2016 at 10:41 pm

            It’s not as relevant as anyone is suggesting. This guy who posted this thread said VII was a terrible movie. That’s it. VII. Not the OT, not the PT. They have nothing to do with this conversation. I pointed out that movie he trashed made 2 billion dollars. Then, other people started bringing up the other movies..why? I don’t know. And you’re still talking about it.

            I never said VII was the best of all the films in quality. My post referenced its Box Office as proof that the film was well received by fans and people didn’t think it was terrible.

          • November 13, 2016 at 10:47 pm

            Fair enough – it just appeared as though the takings were really important to you as a measure for why he was wrong. As for why the PT and OT was raised, well until R1 or anything else is released they are the only other Star Wars films to compare with, so its going to happen. I did agree with you his remark was way off though.

            Out of interest, and not to argue, I did take a look at the box office takings adjusted for inflation. If anyone is interested I’ll post them up.

          • November 14, 2016 at 7:36 pm

            I didn’t think it would. You’re welcome to post them up too.

            But the movie still made 2 billion in one showing. For me, that says there aren’t any really glaringly obvious issues with the film if people kept going back to see it and are generally satisfied.

      • November 13, 2016 at 6:05 pm

        Money doesn’t measure real purpose, depth and spirituality

        • November 13, 2016 at 6:13 pm

          Nope, but it’s a strong indication that people enjoyed the film enough to view it repeatedly in the theater.

          It’s Star Wars bro. When you start digging into things like depth and spirituality, it’s there, but c’mon. The franchise is about Space Wizards with Laser Swords.

          • November 13, 2016 at 6:46 pm

            The franchise is also about Clone Wars seasons, Rebels, The Force Unleashed, Lords of Sith and the amazing (!) The Old Republic trailers…for me TFA doesnt top that in terms of ideas, depth and philosphical meaning to sit on two billion dollars and have the most of fanbase satisfied. People repeatedly went to theater, like me , to believe the film is getting better hahahah

          • November 13, 2016 at 6:51 pm

            That was true with Episode I, and it topped off at a billion. There are certainly people like yourself that dislike VII. And it isn’t a small number of fans. But everything seems to indicate a majority of the fan base like the new film.

            I disagree on your video game references. Video games usually hurt Star Wars more than help. They take grounded concepts (for space fantasy) and make them fairly silly. They’re awesome in their own right, but don’t fit well with established canon.

            The Clone Wars and Rebels are both canon, and you’re already seeing those characters be brought into the films. I think..I think it’s confirmed now that the Rebel trooper on Endor that looks like Rex is in fact Rex. So that’s a nice Retcon.

            And Rogue One features a major actor portraying a Clone Wars character.

          • November 13, 2016 at 6:56 pm

            Rogue One lets go!!! I think this is gonna be the one! About the videogames, If you didnt see yet , check this out:
            For me the most amazing sequences and film direction in SW universe

          • November 13, 2016 at 7:11 pm

            I’ve seen them. And played them. And the cinematics are cool. But I don’t necessarily agree that all of what occurs in TOR fits into Star Wars lore. It’s..weird. Granted, that time frame is quite allowed to be weird based on how far in the past it is and it’s kind of neat to give Star Wars this fantastical background before it became the World War II of Sci Fi. And yes, Rogue One, woot.

    • November 13, 2016 at 2:10 am

      Honestly, I understand what you are saying. There were many dads with their kid at the cinema when I was watching it with similar reactions, and I agree that TFA dosent really fit to a child. Watching Han die by his own twisted kid… This is some pretty fcked up stuff after the OT.

      • November 13, 2016 at 5:57 pm

        Yes it is, Its sad because this movie reunites a genius team of artitsts of ILM that could perfect bring back the unverse from 1977 to 2016 but they make scenes on top of that cynical J.J. decisions , They sell twisted Kylo’s masks in every kids store around the world

    • November 13, 2016 at 2:49 am

      They wanted to make you hate Kylo Ren… they wanted a villain who could hold his own against Vader and so I recognize they felt they needed to kill one of our original heroes in order to achieve this.

      • November 14, 2016 at 2:30 am

        Not a TFA hater here but….did they succed? 🙂

      • November 14, 2016 at 3:37 pm

        That’s correct. They wanted you to hate Kylo Ren, who in my opinion because of Han Solo’s death is not redeemable. On top of that, Harrison Ford probably wasn’t wanting to do another 3 movies, especially as he wanted to be killed off previously. As violent as it may have been, it wasn’t very different as far as other violence found in the Star Wars universe. I will say that Han Solo’s death was quite personal though. A brutal face to face murder of a beloved character. As much as I love the character, I have to respect Harrison Ford’s wishes as far as not wanting to continue in the franchise.

    • November 13, 2016 at 3:21 am

      What about….

      1. Vader killing Obi-wan? Basically patricide. Obi-Wan was like a father to him.

      2. Anakin (well, Vader at the time) slaughtering younglings?

      3. Padme giving up and dying because of anakin’s turn to the dark side?

      4. Vader torturing/drugging his daughter?

      5. Vader cutting off his son’s hand?

      6. Vader watching as Palpatine tortured his son?

      I don’t understand your logic at all…. Han and Leia weren’t shown as bad parents, they were shown as being good and decent parents, taking a proactive step to help their son by having his Uncle teach him the ways of the force. It only shows how seductive and powerful the dark side is, that it could pull Ben away and turn him against his family….

      The same thing that happened to Anakin….. like.. the exact same….

      Han got stabbed…..
      Luke got his hand cut off, so did the dude in the cantinia (and that showed blood). Maul was cut in half. Dooku was DECAPITATED….

      I think that Game of Thrones ‘Violent shit’ has been happening since ’77.

      There is death and suffering in the Star Wars Universe. I can understand if you didn’t want Han to die.. but come on. You should be complaining about many other things then… like… in EACH movie lol
      Get outta here with that nonsense 😛

    • November 13, 2016 at 4:56 am

      The mods really gotta get on people to stay on topic

      • November 13, 2016 at 5:33 am

        Woo has been here for a while. He crops up once in a while with something like this. I mean, it is kind of awesome. In it’s own way.

      • November 13, 2016 at 7:54 am

        complaining about his complaints isn’t on topic either… and now i’ve done it! gah, anarchy!

      • November 13, 2016 at 8:00 am

        He is allowed to express his opinion, just as long as he isn’t obviously trolling, baiting, or demeaning people.

        I’m not sure why or how he decided to write his thought on this article in particular which has nothing to do with what he’s talking about, but regardless he can express himself.

        • November 13, 2016 at 4:19 pm

          Needs to get a blog

          • November 13, 2016 at 5:51 pm

            No. I think here is very cool site to generate discussion to my beloved universe, about an issue that when I started to think about it, make me sad and opened my eyes about the subtext and deep meanings of TFA and industry

      • November 13, 2016 at 5:44 pm

        But when you say Han and Chewie was perfect in TFA , I have to express this felling about his sad and bad vibe death in EP7, because they are really ptch perfect on that characters !!
        They should make his death in EP8 by the hand of other character like Phasma , maybe in front of Kylo who makes the order…I dunno

    • November 13, 2016 at 3:06 pm

      whoa, man…..

      just whoa

  • November 13, 2016 at 7:55 am

    the new chewie looks so metal in the photo, i love it.

    • November 13, 2016 at 7:58 am

      Hahahaa this made me laugh.

  • November 13, 2016 at 8:03 am

    Do not funk Chewie up. The wookie Washington in epIII

    • November 13, 2016 at 5:19 pm

      Wookiee Washington. damn autocorrect :p

  • November 13, 2016 at 9:55 am

    Did everyone forget that Chewbacca was in RotS? He was younger in that than he’ll be in the Han movie.

    • November 13, 2016 at 12:55 pm

      I thiyght this as well

  • November 13, 2016 at 6:44 pm

    Just stop allready! This film is a bad idea! We all know it!
    Casting of Han is terrible! Sounds like they want to make it not feel like a Star Wars movie! now they ignoring the fact chewie was in prequels so are we just fucking up continuity for the sake of it ? Carnt wait to miss this one 🙁

    • November 13, 2016 at 7:43 pm

      Speak for yourself. I’ll be very excited to see any Star Wars film that’s released. I’m going to guess you bashed TFA, as well as R1 and VII, two films that you haven’t even seen. Are you a fan of only movies that they have sought your approval for? Please. You have every right to complain, but just know it makes you look bad.

    • November 13, 2016 at 8:30 pm

      I’m not super excited about this movie either. Its more for the causal fans it seems. I want Jedi and Sith, I want to learn the secrets of the force and I want KOTOR.

      But it doesn’t mess up continuity…. Young Han was almost in Episode 3 on Kashyyyk so we can assume Han met Chewie around that time or not long after.

    • November 14, 2016 at 7:29 am

      How are they ignoring the fact Chewie was in the prequels?

  • November 13, 2016 at 8:21 pm

    People are taking Alden far too literally. He’s said some off the cuff remarks. I expect Chewie to look close to the ANH look in a movie set just close to 10 years before ANH.

    • November 13, 2016 at 10:30 pm

      Yeah you’re probably right, though I think if I was in that position I would be careful on what I said, knowing how we as fans react. Though saying that maybe not, could be impossible to resist having a little fun.

  • November 14, 2016 at 2:28 am

    hmm, i wish i could get excited about this. It wasn’t TOO hard to sell me on Rogue One. Don’t get me wrong, i had my doubts about it at first being a stand alone and such but the plot and the war aspect made me excited. I actually get more excited everytime i see the trailer on TV.

    However, it’s SOO hard for me to come to terms with a NEW Han and Lando. I mean, if they were 13 yr old kids, that’s different in a way. They wouldn’t have to resemble Harrison and Billy Dee as much (and NO i am not in anyway suggesting a teenage Han movie lol). I feel like Obi-Wan was the next logical and 100% passable step if this was the direction they wanted to go.

    Ewan is still alive, aging well. You can pull that story off without having any “Wow, i can’t accept the vast differences of these characters between movies” crap. There is SOOOO much out there that can make awesome standalone movies even without using characters we know. Maybe i’m wrong, maybe i’ll enjoy it, maybe i can make my mind understand that it’s okay that they don’t look similar AT ALL and i can enjoy the movie regardless.

    It’s a long shot but “I mean, I don’t think I’m alone in the world in imagining this flick may be the worst idea since Greedo shooting first.” (gotta love that quote)
    Idk, just my feelings. They could do a lot better things with these standalones in my opinion.

    • November 14, 2016 at 8:56 am

      I felt the same way about McGregor playing Kenobi, replacing Alec Guiness, and to be fair (regardless what they said in the behind the scenes): He doesn’t look or act like old Ben at all (IMHO). But I came around and liked him anyway – though he really is like another character. Guess it’ll be the same with Han (though it’s a far mote popular character and therefor bigger shoes till fill)

      • November 14, 2016 at 10:59 pm

        Yeah but thats exactly my point. McGregor was playing Obi in SUCH a vast difference of time than what we’ve seen of Obi before that. This movie is going to be, what? a few years before a new hope? the difference between such a short period of time is too much for me. The Obi-Wan between ep1-3 and 4-6 have such an age difference that it makes a little more sense that a different person can play him.

        Think of it like this, if they did recast Luke for a flashback scene like it was rumored and you see someone completely different playing him at a time and age that Mark Hamill has already portrayed. That would be so hard since the age would be so close. If they did a flashback of say Luke as a 9yr old, thats different in my eyes. They don’t have to resemble each other as much since there is such a vast difference in time.

        My whole point was that a whole new person is playing Han and Lando in a time not far from when harrison and bill dee played them. Thats why its different to me than the Mcgregor/Guiness situation. That’s my opinion of course.

    • November 14, 2016 at 10:15 am

      To preface, I have been dead set against trying to recast a Harrison Ford role. Check out Hail Cesear. Particularly the scene where he is present when Manix is talking about the ransom money in the briefcase – I say this as an enormous HF fan here…..there is something that DEFINETLY feels like a young Harrison there. I think in terms of casting they may just have nailed this. Now if the direction (no worries – these guys have earned the benefit of the doubt) and script (very worried – not impressed with Kasdan sr lately) come together…..

    • November 14, 2016 at 5:43 pm

      A young Sana SOLO and maybe even some bounty hunters

  • November 14, 2016 at 9:23 am

    UUUUUGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! FINALLY getting around to Hail Cesear. Fuck me for saying this, but….this kid might pull this off.

    • November 17, 2016 at 4:21 am

      What that it were so simple.

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