Did Harrison Ford Reveal a Big Spoiler About a Certain Scene in The Force Awakens?
As you know yesterday there was a live Q&A event on Twitter with the cast and crew of The Force Awakens. One particular comment by Harrison Ford himself revealed a potential spoiler about the lightsaber duel at the end of the movie.
SPOILERS AHEAD
Although this was revealed by Harrison Ford himself (through the official Star Wars Twitter account), we would advise you not to read the following if you want the full and ultimate experience on December 18th.
During the Q&A, a fan asked Ford “what is his favorite action scene in The Force Awakens”. Ford surprising replied the following:
The sword fight with Rey and Kilo Ren. Fantastic visual storytelling. – Harrison Ford #TwitterAwakens https://t.co/RqKef1a6rx
— Star Wars (@starwars) December 4, 2015
Rey facing Kylo Ren in a lightsaber combat, after Finn gets injured has been speculated for some time now.
Actually last week we had an article ready for posting on that topic. It was about the latest Disney Infinity 3.0 trailer, which was an actual recreation of the full The Force Awakens trailer. There was a brief scene in this trailer showing Rey fighting Kylo with a lightsaber. We didn’t post it since Disney commented that in the game any character can use any weapon and face anyone. Well I guess we could share it now:
Here’s the actual Disney Infinity trailer to refresh your memory:
The particularly interesting scene is at the end – the fight between Kylo Ren and Finn. Or is it really Finn? Here, take a closer look in this gif (via Cantina member MagnarTheGreat):
After watching this several times you will clearly see that in this scene Kylo Ren is actually fighting Rey and not Finn. You can see the white hands holding the lightsaber and the black belt that Rey’s costume has.
With the Infinity footage and Ford’s comment we could definitely expect such scene to happen in the movie. I don’t know if Harrison accidentally gave this scene away or not, but this is definitely something that would have been better to remain secret.
But we also have to remember this quote from J.J. Abrams from his interview with Rolling Stone:
Abrams is most concerned with a couple of segments that intercut between separate action sequences. One includes a “castle battle”; the other pairs a space skirmish led by Oscar Isaac’s heroic Poe Dameron with a lightsaber fight where Finn and Rey face off with Kylo Ren. “Better late than never, I’m looking at the polarity of the sequences,” Abrams says. “It’s about not asking the audience to simultaneously be in the most emotionally desperate place – Rey in the forest with Ren – and at the same time to be celebrating. Similarly, in this sequence we have to be careful – we have her in another forest with the same kind of life-and-death despair, while at the same time indicating that things are going well for our pilots.”
So maybe it’s not a secret after all…
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KABOOM!! (Mind blown )
I was expecting this. I saw the image of Rey and Finn together about to fight Kylo. It would make sense that Finn would fight Kylo first, lose and Rey would just pick up the lightsaber and continue the fight. It isn’t THAT huge a spoiler.
yeah, they literally have the picture of Rey and Finn next to eachother facing Kylo.. WHAT is there to spoil?
Milk.
Wish I hadn’t of read that.
Why? You saw it in the trailer after all…
“Wish I Had not of read that”
“Wish I had not read of that spoiler” .. or ” Wish I had not read that”
Thank you. I see that form “I had of [verb]” so often used by Americans.
I’m Italian and I know that it’s wrong, it’s so strange to see it used by americans…
Yes, it’s primarily native English speakers who make this mistake. And that is more out of simple carelessness than ignorance. Not unlike that comma splice in your last sentence.
I like comma splices, and it’s not an error in my language (Italian).
Veni, vidi, vici.
Fair enough.
It’s just the stupid ones of us that don’t know how to spell the word correctly. It stems from the fact that many of us do PRONOUNCE it like “hadn’t of” in that context instead of “hadn’t have”.
well it would confirm that leaked art then
As much as people have been using this as proof of Plagueis in TFA, I think it’s always been clear that this was just an early concept for Kylo Ren, and that the guy behind him is Finn (most of the actors in contention for the role were white, so not surprising he would be white in concept paintings), with Rey stepping in to save Finn after he gets badly beaten by Ren in that lightsaber duel.
Agreed!
Exactamundo, my friend. I wish I could vote this up more than once.
I still think this may be plagueis. If not him then def. Snoke. It looks as if that’s kylo unmasked being protected by snoke, and the way in which rrey is facing looks like she may be protecting Finn
It’s only concept art. Not everything is what you will see in the movie. Finn being white and the early Kylo rendition.
The lead of the film is going to fight the villain!? Sppolerz!!!
Did Luke fight Darth in ANH? It is a spoiler. Although someone was gonna rescue Finn.
Well, they didn’t duel in ANH, but they did sort of face each other in space. Granted, Luke didn’t was too busy on his mission to get into a dogfight, but the climax of the film still came down to Luke vs. Vader … with a little help from the other main protagonist, Han.
I’ve seen this on their twitter Q & A yesterday. Either Harrison types faster than light or Lucasfilm let him leak it. XD
Not unexpected at all, even for someone whose not too much into spoilers, but I wish I haven’t seen it – my mind would have been blown in theater. I wonder what else they are hiding…
So many new questions…
1. Is Finn just injured during this fight or is he killed? ( I hope not )
2. If he survives the fight does he loose a limb? ( Hand / Arm )
3. Does Rey kill / defeat Kylo Ren?
In 13 days all these questions will be answered… = )
Finn’s going to be fine, he will go onto become a great Jedi 🙂
I think John Boyega’s been confirmed for Ep. VIII. So Finn might get seriously wounded during his clash with Kylo and he might lose a limb, yep.
I think Rey may be able to defeat Kylo by using the Force instinctively or something along those lines, but I don’t think she’ll kill him. Kylo seems to be more Vader than Maul in this trilogy. But that’s just me, speculating.
The questions will be answered…in 12 days for me 😛
1. Injured.
2. Think he’ll lose an arm.
3. No chance. Kylo Ren will most likely be too strong for Rey. Rey and Finn escape, and are then rescued by Chewie. That scene of Rey crying over Finn, the lights shining on them are coming from Chewie piloting the Falcon.
He could become a cyborg like Vader.
Just more proof that all those leaked story details we’ve been reading about for months are mostly, if not all, true.
Didn’t read the Q&A. Was there anything else interesting mentioned by any of the cast or crew, or was it more of the usual stuff we’ve heard already in a million interviews?
Just the same stuff. “Who’s your favorite character/moment in the movie”, things like that.
So it is Finn Rey is crying over in that Trailer scene.
So does Rey defeat Kylo or forces him to withdraw?
Maybe she is the test that Snoke tells Kylo he has never faced before.
I agree that is probably true. Facing a person like Rey is the ultimate test. I suppose this is where Rey tries to convince him to turn from the Dark Side. I think this is where he utters” I am immune to the light.”
I think that line is the asnwer from the “The Dark Side and the Light” part of the conversation Kylo has with Snoke.
Still I get what you are saying. If Rey is immensely strong in the Force (which is my sincere hope- i like “dormant power” storylines) and releases it in a moment of pure desperation, then Kylo, having completely overpowered Finn, would be baffled by such a display of power. That, combined with the rumor that Rey is his twin sister and Kylo would refrain from killing her and try to lure her to the Dark Side, would make the battle between them quite the test for him. I mean, how do you kill a Force user that has Unleashed the Force against you, has nothing to lose it seems, and on top of that is your close relative and you don’t wish to kill her but you have to use all methods at your disposal, even fatal strikes in order to survive against her attacks? That’s quite the test…
I have to agree but does Snoke knows Rey’s true lineage before speaking to Kylo?
If Kylo’s doll says “Is it true? You are just a scarvenger?” that tells us that SPOILER when he has her imprisoned he is aware of their connection and is let down by what she has managed to do with herself all these years. That means that Snoke has a great deal of knowledge about Kylo and the events after ROJ.
Perhaps Rey does injure Kylo in the lightsaber battle.
She may display a Force momment after a desperate situation rises against Kylo and attack him in rage. Kylo would be completely baffled by such an attack and Rey may get to wound him. Would make sense then for Han to be afraid she couldn’t be controled and get her to Luke before it would be too late for her.
So you think the other that goes to Luke is Han?
I think that Han survives and that would be a true surprise. I don’t know how he does it but I’m sure of it. I hope I am right 😀
Well the scene of the fallen body is now confirmed as Finn So there is a shadow behind Rey once reaching where Luke is on the steep rocky path. So that means there are at least two who goes to Luke. That possibly is Han? I never thought Han dies in his confrontation with Kylo. I think Kylo is about to kill him when the ground opens up and swallows him.
Yeah, that’s 100% Rey. The Infinity trailer also shows an epic space battle.
Think the winner of the best tweet was bestowed on Mark Hamil:
Rey fighting Kylo with a lightsaber= The force awakens. Seems like it might literally mean Rey’s awakening?
Finn is also a force user we just have not seen it yet there have always been two force using hero’s
Considering that Finn wasn’t even able to beat that riot stormtrooper on his own, he’d obviously be hopeless against Kylo Ren.
Finn is right handed. Rey must be the left handed character
She holds her staff with her riight hand, doesn’t she ? In the animated trailer, she is holding the lightsaber with both hands apparently.
Dahhhh can’t wait anymore!!
You really have to be dumb to not see that Rey is crying over Finn in that scene in the trailer. You can see his jacket
dont worry Finn you will get your chance in episode 8
As a cyborg which will be awesome!!!
Clearly JJ is trying to avoid the exact same problem George discussed in behind the scene footage about the end of the Phantom menace.
Sadly, I viewed this tweet during the Q&A, so I wasn’t even able to avoid this spoiler.
So, Finn is critically injured and Rey cries over his unconscious body being held by Chewbacca. She finally gives in and takes her father’s light saber and with the power of her force sensitivity that’s she’s been reluctant to use, fights Kylo Ren. At the end of the battle, Han, who we thought died earlier, swoops in on the Falcon and picks them up. Theater erupts in cheers.
Is it the 18th yet!?!?
Kilo Ren?!
Well, Ford was probably never allowed to take the script home to study it, so for him to slighly misspell a name isn’t unexpected …
It does seem like a mistake he would make but it looks like Star Wars.com made it instead which is far worse considering they get paid to know everything about the universe,
How did they make it?
It doesn’t look like a retweet.
At least Abrams takes care not to pull the audience in too many contradictory directions at once, emotionally speaking. I have often said that the prequels are not quite as bad as some people claim, but one of the undeniable sins of Episode 1 is that the final battle is comedy in one moment (Jar-Jar’s antics AGAIN) and dark, serious business the next (Qui-Gon getting killed by Darth Maul).
Comic relief has its place, but when the final confrontation happens, the filmmaker must allow the audience to take it seriously.
He had major issues with tone in the prequels. Horror to cartoonish within the same scene and 18 seconds.
I know it didn’t make the movie but this deleted scene (1:35) epitomizes what was wrong with the movie. https://youtu.be/C-hFh35U3go?t=1m35s
In one scene a Jedi slaughtered and 24 seconds later Obiwan and Anakinare doing a Three Stooges skit.
reminds me of that scene in Splinter of the minds eye (my fav EU book)
And the first EU book. Noice.
penned by Alan Dean Foster who wrote Alien.. man to think getting this book book way back when (1979) and the star wars comic from Marvel.. some great stuff back then
I’d have been surprised if they DIDN’T fight. Especially given the seeming connection between the two (“Is it true? You’re just a scavenger?”) and the fact that poor Finn just looks outclassed in the trailer.
My theory (hope) all along is that Rey and Kylo were trained by Luke, for me, this confirms it. I don’t think an untrained Rey would provide “fantastic visual storytelling”. Just having the force does not allow you to fight (what seems to be) an established sword fighter and force user in Kylo Ren.
And if she is untrained and just grabs the sword and holds her own, #1 Kylo Rey is not as bad as as everyone thought or #2 it’s cheese on the level of Jar Jar stumbling his way into defeating the battle droids.
I’m guessing that Rey almost gets her head chopped off, but Luke drops in and scares Kylo away.
what if Finn throws Rey the lightsaber and she catches it(Finn throws use it using the force) then Luke catches it instead and fights the fuck out of Kylo Ren
I really doubt the characters know Luke already when the movie begins, the whole theme of episode 7 is discovery for a new generation
https://youtu.be/cRBJJ7OM_R4
The sound keeps dropping out at key moments during this interview, as if the audio has been censored, even if it wasn’t.
I just wanna clarify, when he says “sword fight” he may just be talking about when Kylo put his saber to Rey’s neck, meaning that only one of them fight with a saber while Rey fights with a blaster. A “sword fight” can be one-sided.
You’re funny on star wars news net when you say “this is definitely something that would have been better to remain secret” .. you read everything you can find on star wars and then you are crying “oh no, they spoiled the movie”