John Boyega: Finn is a Character with a Unique, Never Before Seen Narrative in the Star Wars Universe!

FinnJohn Boyega spoke with V Magazine, and while he shared some things we’ve already heard, he also revealed some interesting new bits about his character Finn and what we could expect from him in Star Wars: The Force Awakens…

 

 

 

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On how he got the part:

 

“There was already contact between me and J.J. [Abrams, the film’s director],” he explains. “He was a big fan of Attack the Block and we were waiting for a project where we could collaborate.” The casting took seven months. “Disney is a four-billion-pound company,” Boyega says. “They wanted to make sure they got the right person for the job. I learned that I got the part over a nice breakfast in Mayfair. J.J. said, ‘John, you’re the new star of Star Wars,’ and everything froze for a moment.”

 

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On Harrison Ford:

 

“He has that knowledge and it’s beautiful to watch,” Boyega says. “He has a great balance between the artistic and technical elements of acting, which is what it’s all about.” Peers on set, Boyega marveled at their differences away from the glare of the camera. “He told me about his career and his house. I realized that I probably couldn’t relate to him about finances because he’s on another level.”

 

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On Finn:

 

Boyega plays the character of Finn, who he describes as being “in conflict, mostly with himself and also with the powers” but is tight-lipped about why this conflict exists, or which powers he means for that matter—the Force?

 

What he will disclose, however, is that Finn is a character with a “unique” narrative “never before seen” in the Star Wars universe. “We’ve seen him in the Stormtrooper outfit and his own clothes. Why is that?” The answer, he says, is “very surprising.” And if you think you’ve worked it out, the chances are you’re wrong. “J.J. will send me YouTube clips of fans reacting to things online and it’s funny. The fans have no idea. It’s great they are talking, but nobody has a clue.”

 

Make sure to check out the full interview at vman.com

 

 

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These are some very curious comments by Boyega. From his words, it appears that we could expect a big twist with his character. We’ve already heard rumors that there will be at least a few of those in the movie.

 

Also it’s interesting that Boyeag says, Finn is in conflict “with the powers”. We’ve already seen Finn wielding a lightsaber on the Drew Struzan D23 poster, and in the Instagram clip revealed few weeks ago. Is he force sensitive, and probably struggling with his powers that were unlocked somehow? What do you think? Tell us in the poll below.

 

 

 

 

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324 thoughts on “John Boyega: Finn is a Character with a Unique, Never Before Seen Narrative in the Star Wars Universe!

  • October 9, 2015 at 6:10 pm
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    I think he basically means “the powers that be.”

  • October 9, 2015 at 6:14 pm
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    Wow, this is interesting: And if you think you’ve worked it out, the chances are you’re wrong.
    “J.J. will send me YouTube clips of fans reacting to things online and
    it’s funny. The fans have no idea. It’s great they are talking, but
    nobody has a clue.”

    • October 9, 2015 at 6:29 pm
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      Mind you they couldn’t have read every post from every forum on the subject. Someone must have nailed it somewhere.

      • October 11, 2015 at 6:42 am
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        I think Disney have a pretty good idea of the main rumours out there. (They may have actually started some of them deliberately of course). At certain times, like when the video footage of “Luke’s refuge” or the image of Luke in uniform were posted, they were deleted pretty quickly “at the request of Disney”. I’m sure they’re watching their 4 billion dollar investment closely.

  • October 9, 2015 at 6:19 pm
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    I could see him being some sort of Kanan who instead of becoming an outlaw joined the Empire hiding his past, like in the movie Europa Europe about a Jewish boy who joined the Hitler youth to survive. Probably not, but it’s a new approach.

    • October 9, 2015 at 7:38 pm
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      Now that you are saying it. Yes. I remember that crazy movie.

  • October 9, 2015 at 6:29 pm
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    In all honesty, I’m taking the things John says about Finn with a grain of salt. He seems way too attached to the character to be speaking in a general, logical manner about him.

    What I’m more interested in, is JJ’s specific words, “You’re the new star of Star Wars.”

    Does this mean that Finn is the main character? We’ve been speculating that Daisy Ridley is the daughter of the Skywalker name, and since the main series follows that lineage that would have to make HER the main character, right? Or is Finn the son of the Skywalkers? Could that explain why he’s holding that lightsaber? Could the “powers” he struggles between be a reference to the Skywalker family vs. the First Order, and choosing between his blood or his duty? This is all starting to make perfect sense…

    • October 9, 2015 at 6:39 pm
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      Taken what we know about the ending into account. No, he is not a Skywalker nor is he the main character.

      • October 9, 2015 at 7:07 pm
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        And what do we know about the ending? Why would we know such a critical part about such a secrecy-clouded film? Furthermore, how do you know that “what we know about the ending” is entirely accurate, given my points above?

      • October 9, 2015 at 7:17 pm
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        You haven’t seen the film, stop making out like you have

      • October 9, 2015 at 7:23 pm
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        Finn the MAAAAN!

    • October 9, 2015 at 7:40 pm
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      My gut feeling since Finn is not involved on Skellig Michael is that he’s neither a Skywalker or Jedi. Just my belief. Happy to be proved wrong.

      • October 9, 2015 at 10:06 pm
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        Rey gets trained by Luke. It’s obvious…

    • October 9, 2015 at 9:36 pm
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      I believe it is obvious that the main characters of TFA are Rey, Finn and Kylo Ren. Poe Damerin is probably a notch below.

    • October 9, 2015 at 10:33 pm
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      Did you not get the “girl power” memo on here? Daisy is the star.

  • October 9, 2015 at 6:34 pm
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    John Boyega is way too attached to his character.

  • October 9, 2015 at 6:58 pm
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    i used to think hes an order sympathizer…but on second thought, he could be infiltrated, or he could be hiding from something.

  • October 9, 2015 at 7:37 pm
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    Man, what if Lando and Leia had an affair!!!!

    • October 10, 2015 at 2:10 pm
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      What if Lando raped her.

  • October 9, 2015 at 7:41 pm
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    I don’t mind Fin being main character at all. But if he is a Skywalker I cry foul. I’d like the movie to still follow the laws of genetics. It’s unlikely Luke’s son has such dark skin.

    • October 9, 2015 at 9:44 pm
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      Finn as a Skywalker. That to me would seem forced. If all 3 are Solo/Skywalkers. I think that would be weird.

    • October 9, 2015 at 9:45 pm
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      You racist mofo, you need diversity training! Naw, I’m just kidding. I totally agree with you.

    • October 10, 2015 at 12:50 am
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      Obviously, he is Luke’s butler

    • October 10, 2015 at 2:53 am
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      So you’ve never seen an African and a white women produce a dark child…. well your argument is ridiculous. They can produce many diff shades and dark black is absolutely one of them.

    • October 12, 2015 at 6:02 pm
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      I think you should probably spend some time looking up the laws of genetics. Specifically, the law that melanin production is a polygenic trait and a dominant allele.

      Genetically speaking, the chance of Luke’s son being born white is as likely as he is to be born black, so long as at least one of the parents is carrying (not necessarily expressing) the dominant allele (in other words, all it takes is Padme having a dark-skinned ancestor).

  • October 9, 2015 at 7:58 pm
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    Finn’s toys aren’t selling….couple this with all the negative fan sentiment and you’ve got yourselves a BIG red flag.

    Boyega supporters will claim it’s all due to discrimination, but this is bunk.

    Plenty of people loved Lando and his toy sold like hot cakes; and this was thirty years ago!

    • October 9, 2015 at 8:14 pm
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      The movie hasn’t come out yet, so there is very little to know about Finn’s character – yet.
      The Imperial toys for TFA have been outselling all the other charcters ( like Rey ), because they look cool, so it’s not a Finn issue.

      When the movie comes out the Finn toys will sell just fine. Some people on these boards really have a problem with John Boyega – I wonder why that is?

      • October 9, 2015 at 8:56 pm
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        Isn’t it obvious why people don’t like him?
        The answer isn’t because he’s black.
        It’s because he doesn’t have star power qualities like someone like say Billy Dee Williams had.
        A Star Wars lead should be exceptional. John’s not exceptional.
        But hey, I don’t blame him for taking the role.
        If someone like JJ Abrams was foolish enough to pay me millions of dollars, I would take take the money and not think twice about it!

        • October 9, 2015 at 9:01 pm
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          yeah well Daisy ridley aint even been in a fucking movie and no one is hating on her, yet boyega has Robert Downey JR as a mentor and has actor alongside Chiwetel Ejiofor and people say he aint got the star power, who cares! as long as he can act and he has proved that

          • October 9, 2015 at 9:20 pm
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            To be honest with Daisy, not seeing her in action before it is kind of titillating. We don’t how she is going to perform this is why some people are looking forward to seeing the film. She might be dreadful but I find it refreshing that KK and JJ went for an unknown.

          • October 9, 2015 at 9:20 pm
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            yeah but you cant use the Star power argument for boyega when daisy is in the same position

          • October 9, 2015 at 9:22 pm
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            Daisy and Boyega aren’t apples and oranges.
            One looks pleasant and pops off the screen well.
            The other….um, no.

          • October 9, 2015 at 9:36 pm
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            bruh boyega aint ugly, you just have an acceptance problem

          • October 9, 2015 at 9:43 pm
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            What do Mel Gibson, Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, Peter O’toole, Harrison Ford and pretty much every other leading man in history have in common?

            They’re all handsome…like it not, this is a big part of what people pay to see when they go to the movies.

          • October 9, 2015 at 9:51 pm
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            no homo but Boyega is handsome mothafucka, the only thing those guy have in common is that they are white and lets face it you can’t stomach that boyega is black

          • October 10, 2015 at 3:06 am
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            Sidney Poitier was handsome. Billy Dee was handsome. Denzel Washington was handsome. Will Smith is handsome. Chiwatal as well. Samuel Jackson is not handsome, but his coolnes is beyond measure….

          • October 9, 2015 at 9:51 pm
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            I can smell your thinly veiled racism it reeks

          • October 10, 2015 at 12:53 am
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            Blacks appeal to blacks, Blacks do not go to Star wars movies, blacks make up a small percentage of the movie going audience. Unless of course you’re talking about Juwanna man 7 or Big mamma’s house 23

          • October 9, 2015 at 9:50 pm
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            He’s just being racist, as most of the Boyega haters here. It’s really disgusting.

          • October 10, 2015 at 3:00 am
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            But of course, it has to be like this, right? Well guess what, I’m still thinking Boyega is not good looking and has big ass, I’ m a huge fan of many black actors and actresses, yet I’ m a racist? What about accept other people’ s oppinion as they accept your’s and let’ s be here all educated and tolerated, ok? We are judging here just the look of the actors, not theyr skills or their characters story, we will have plenty time afterwards….

          • October 10, 2015 at 4:01 am
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            So….having a big ass makes you ugly? Please…explain

          • October 9, 2015 at 9:36 pm
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            one is clearly talented the other isn’t, that is all that matters, the last time they cast looks based we got Hayden

          • October 10, 2015 at 12:38 am
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            Lucas thought Hayden could act. Its a shame he didn’t cast Chris Hemsworth!

          • October 12, 2015 at 5:59 pm
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            Was this actually a thing? :O

          • October 12, 2015 at 10:40 pm
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            I don’t know if Lucas auditioned him but Lucas was in Australia while filming the Prequels. Hemsworth was in the right age group at that time & on Aussie TV.

          • October 9, 2015 at 9:56 pm
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            I can’t agree with that. No homo but John is fairly handsome guy. At certain angles he looks like a young Denzel.

          • October 10, 2015 at 2:52 am
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            No homo as well but sorry, don’ t compare Denzel and John. Denzel IS handsome and doesn’ t have big ass. And to those who like Daisy more – for christ sake she is a gorgeous WOMAN! And John is a not so good looking MAN. I’ m sure it all changes when we all see the movie and know Finn but right now we are judging only with basic instincts 🙂

          • October 9, 2015 at 10:01 pm
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            That doesn’t make sense. If John hasn’t acted in anything at all, do you think the response to him would be any different?

          • October 9, 2015 at 10:10 pm
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            Yes, I honestly do, I like seeing young emerging talent, don’t we all?
            Think as it as a sport, you have a group of young exciting rookies which
            you have never seen before and we are told they are good, you want to
            see just how good they are. You watch the career from beginning to end.
            Brand new shining lights, zestful, interesting and entertaing YOU the
            audience.

          • October 9, 2015 at 10:28 pm
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            Apparently marketers don’t share that belief.

            If they thought someone being in their first feature was a draw, they’d save money and never hire well known actors for anything.

          • October 9, 2015 at 10:48 pm
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            Well it is just my personal preference. I can’t vouch for the cinema markets and promoters but I am happy enough for Lucas Film to give unknowns a chance, I applaud them. Its just a shame we can’t have more.

          • October 10, 2015 at 2:12 pm
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            That’s what I liked about the LotR trilogy. The actors were less famous, which made the characters more believable.

          • October 12, 2015 at 5:58 pm
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            Elijah Wood, Sean Bean, Viggo Mortensen, Christopher Lee) hell, Sean Astin (he may have been most famous aside from Lee Bean) were all pretty famous prior to the release of Fellowship…

            Now maybe they weren’t the hottest Hollywood fads like Will Smith or Brad Pitt. But they were definitely quite recognizable. They sold their roles so well because they could all act, IMO 🙂

          • October 12, 2015 at 7:39 pm
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            Recognizable yes. But not too recognizable.

          • October 10, 2015 at 12:13 am
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            I can’t find the D. Ridley fans other than girls.

          • October 10, 2015 at 12:15 am
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            Yep…and here’s big problem #2 with TFA.

          • October 10, 2015 at 4:19 pm
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            I am pretty sure Daisy hasn’t made any adult films, neither has John for that matter…

        • October 9, 2015 at 9:24 pm
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          The guy went through 7 months of auditions. Casting must have a high level of confidence in him. Having not seen the movie, your judgement is way too premature.

        • October 9, 2015 at 10:00 pm
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          I didn’t buy him, Rey, or Poe. I’m not invested in their characters yet, so why spend the money. It has nothing to do with color.

        • October 9, 2015 at 10:02 pm
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          If Lando toys were sold a little over three months before Empire, I’m sure the results would be the same.

          • October 10, 2015 at 12:55 am
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            Nobody’s buying a Lando doll now

        • October 9, 2015 at 10:20 pm
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          Exceptional? Nobody knew who Mark Hamill was until 1976. He had a few soap opera parts, but nothing ‘exceptional.’

        • October 10, 2015 at 12:55 am
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          Well, and because he’s black

        • October 10, 2015 at 2:46 am
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          Daisy RIdley hasn’t been in one movie. NOT ONE. Where is the vitriol? Atleast Boyegas been in a cult classic.

        • October 10, 2015 at 3:38 pm
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          I disagree. People like Poe Dameron. They don’t know anything about him either.

          • October 12, 2015 at 5:55 pm
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            tbf, oscar isaacs is a very accomplished actor.

    • October 9, 2015 at 8:23 pm
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      bullshit, I cant find a single finn toy, and in london this guy is a big hit, it just sounds like you want him to be unpopular

        • October 9, 2015 at 9:03 pm
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          Like that in my locals too. All Finn, they are peg warmers and I’m in the UK too.

          • October 9, 2015 at 10:31 pm
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            Mine too and I’m in the US. It’s a cool jacket but they should have released him in his stormtrooper gear which was much cooler looking or better yet make it removable which we’ve never seen before. Lando sold better since Billy Dee is iconic and John is a literal nobody right now.

          • October 10, 2015 at 3:32 pm
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            I believe Jar Jar was the peg warmer of all peg warmers. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re still trying to sell him, 16 years later.

        • October 10, 2015 at 2:00 am
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          that is strange cos I’m in central london and I see no star wars toys besides a chewie

          • October 10, 2015 at 3:24 pm
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            Yes, but London is no longer an english city, as John Cleese would put it.

      • October 10, 2015 at 2:31 am
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        In Prague and in Valencia and Madrid they buy Stormtroopers, Kylo and Rey. And there is always plenty of Finn left. If you don’ t believe me I can make pictures. Look Finn is not an attractive young girl and his costume is boring, no one knows his character, thisis – I think – why in some countries his toy doesn’ t sell that good.

    • October 9, 2015 at 9:11 pm
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      Finn will be huge once the movie comes out. Rey and BB8 are just so lovable of course they will sell more at first.

      • October 10, 2015 at 1:16 am
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        How is Rey lovable at this point?

      • October 10, 2015 at 2:00 am
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        people only bought rey for BB8,

    • October 9, 2015 at 9:25 pm
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      I know as an old school fan I want more Luke. Finn & Rey are just too new. And until I see the movie they are in Limbo.

      • October 10, 2015 at 2:27 am
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        I bought Rey because she’ s hot and has this cool costume. I didn’ t buy Finn because he is not hot to me as a guy, and doesn’ t have cool costume. If the main girl is black and hot with a cool costume, I would buy her for sure as well.

        • October 10, 2015 at 3:49 am
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          I agree hotness does sell.

    • October 9, 2015 at 9:59 pm
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      Do you really think that people not buying his figure as much is an indictment on a character they haven’t seen?

    • October 10, 2015 at 2:24 am
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      I bought Lando in his Skiff guard disguise back then…

  • October 9, 2015 at 8:01 pm
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    He loves grape soda & strawberry quick.

  • October 9, 2015 at 8:16 pm
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    I wonder if finn is a plant to infiltrate the resistance? Kinda a covert agent we all think hes a hero and bad guy turned good. But what if its all a secret mission so the 1st order can eliminate leia and the resistance.

    • October 9, 2015 at 9:15 pm
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      I wonder if finn is a plant to infiltrate the resistance?

      This is the only, ONLY possible angle that salvage his character…because Finn as the new Luke Skywalker…fan’s won’t go for it.

      • October 9, 2015 at 11:44 pm
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        Fans won’t tolerate it? Thanks for speaking on behalf of all of us.

        • October 10, 2015 at 12:16 am
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          You’re in the minority pal.

          • October 10, 2015 at 12:35 am
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            Your face is in the minority, pal.

          • October 10, 2015 at 12:56 am
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            What do you mean by that?

          • October 10, 2015 at 1:08 am
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            Just answering his nonsense with more nonsense. How great to live in a world where one can just make a baseless statement “you’re in the minority pal” and just pretend like its fact without offering any empirical evidence. “If I think it, everyone must too!”

          • October 10, 2015 at 1:59 am
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            this guy is just a cocksucker ignore him, all he has done on this thread is attack boyega

          • October 10, 2015 at 1:16 am
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            What’s the matter, aren’t we pals anymore?

        • October 10, 2015 at 5:18 am
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          Hey Lucas, apparently I’m in the minority too 🙂 Welcome to the club!

  • October 9, 2015 at 8:54 pm
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    The reason why the Imperial Toys have sold better is because: 1) People’s infinite obsession with Stormtroopers, and 2) Because Kylo Ren has a light-saber with his toy. Just wait until they put out toys with Finn holding a light-saber and we’ll talk then. I personally think he’s cool, reserved, and overall respectful, which is not something u can say for most younger actors. Let’s wait until his role is truly revealed before we become judgemental. I know some people can’t help it, but to be blunt: just f….chill 😉

    • October 9, 2015 at 9:00 pm
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      “Just wait until they put out toys with Finn holding a light-saber and we’ll talk then.”

      This won’t change anything. You’re in denial, just like a lotof fans were in denial about jar jar in 99.

      • October 9, 2015 at 11:58 pm
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        Did u actually just compare Finn to Jar Jar? No, really!? There’s really not much of a point for a discussion here after this.

        • October 10, 2015 at 1:58 am
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          his is an obvious hater, typical, this is exactly what boyega is talking about

      • October 10, 2015 at 1:15 am
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        I’d say past statistics have indicated that the lightsaber-wielding action figures sell the best, so it’s not far-fetched that they’ll increase if he turns out to be one with the Force.

  • October 9, 2015 at 9:02 pm
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    Lets face it, Finn has been sent back in time by John Conner to prevent First Order Day. Only First Order sent back a Kylo Ren model too. Chances are Finn and Rey make a baby who will turn out to be John Conner. Harrison Ford cameos as the gunstore guy who sells Kylo Ren his lightsaber.

    • October 9, 2015 at 10:29 pm
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      He should also save Axel Rose……from himself.

  • October 9, 2015 at 9:03 pm
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    I really do hope we have some cool unexpected and unpredicted twists beyond just who did who twenty years prior, lol. I hope these twists remain secret and aren’t spoiled by overzealous websites or bloody idiots on Twitter 2 days before I see the film. Will need to have a true internet blackout that week…

    • October 9, 2015 at 9:10 pm
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      they will be. if you dont want to be spoiled i recommend going dark around the 14th.

      • October 9, 2015 at 9:15 pm
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        Words of wisdom my friend.

    • October 9, 2015 at 10:28 pm
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      I think it will have to do with the title and why “bringing balance to the force” thought something entirely different than what Lucas said it was.

    • October 10, 2015 at 12:58 am
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      I’m sure of it. I don’t think we’re getting the mind blowing twists in Episode 7 though (One of the earliest rumors that remained consistent) but I think the twists will come in the form of misdirection, everything we think we know now from “leaked spoilers” might not actually be true. The big twist of the trilogy is likely to be in Episode 8 (Another rumor from the very beginning)

  • October 9, 2015 at 9:04 pm
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    Getting Leia pregnant is the most Lando thing Lando ever could do. Knocking up a princess who is also your best friend’s girl? That’s textbook Lando.

    • October 9, 2015 at 9:32 pm
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      Unlikely as Finn was not originally written as being of any particular race. Boyega’s getting the part had nothing to do with him being black.

      • October 10, 2015 at 12:11 am
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        Not officially anyway.

        • October 10, 2015 at 12:52 am
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          Considering he was up against two other white actors for the part, I think it’s safe to say it didn’t play a role. He was clearly the best choice. Diverse cast is the new thing in Hollywood, Star Wars is way too big of a universe to just have abunch of white people running around.

          • October 10, 2015 at 1:07 am
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            So he had a 33% chance. Star Wars is way too big of a universe to just have a bunch of humans running around.

          • October 10, 2015 at 1:13 am
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            Also, Boyega’s a talented and compelling actor, as proven by previous work.

      • October 10, 2015 at 4:41 pm
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        Yeah, no chance that little piece of information could possibly be “misdirection”…

        • October 11, 2015 at 6:32 am
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          It will be really interesting after we see the film to cross-reference everything JJ and co told us about the film beforehand. He has acknowledged that lying about Khan in Star Trek: Into Darkness was a bad idea. If he is telling the truth and the role of Finn was not written to be any particular race, then what does that mean for Finn?

          • October 12, 2015 at 1:49 pm
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            Yeah, in the Star Wars universe race = species, so if his character wasn’t written for any particular species it would be interesting to see him cast as a Wookie… but considering I think Finn will ultimately take over the role of Han (his toy states “I’m in charge here” sounding a lot like a Han from ANH and ESB) (and before anyone asks, I think Poe is the new age Wedge) I think it was more a choice of can anyone really understand a Wookie… John will be just fine as the new Han… P.S. I just took a moment to read my comment and based on his toy words he actually sounds like E4 E5 Leia…

    • October 9, 2015 at 10:27 pm
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      Not likely seeing as how this is both a PG film and Disney we are talking about here.

      • October 9, 2015 at 11:19 pm
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        It’s a Tracy Morgan bit waiting to happen.

        • October 10, 2015 at 6:25 am
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          “Hey baby, I hear those white bois got lightsabers but have you ever seen a darksaber?”

          • October 10, 2015 at 7:01 pm
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            Ima get you pregrant.

          • October 11, 2015 at 5:12 am
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            Well why don’t you drop out of that green jumpsuit and show me dat fat ass?

    • October 10, 2015 at 12:18 am
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      That’s textbook porno drama.

  • October 9, 2015 at 9:07 pm
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    The truth is that only the first order figures are selling like crazy in my country and all the Finn figures are remaining.

    • October 9, 2015 at 9:10 pm
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      The good guy ensemble JJ’s put together are not interesting in the least.
      First Order though, particularly, Kylo Ren, the’re a compelling group.
      I’m guessing Rey-Finn-Poe were JJ’s handywork, while Kylo-Snoke-Phasma were Lawrence Kasdans.

      • October 9, 2015 at 9:11 pm
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        watch the movie first man, geez you sound like you WANT to hate the new heroes

        • October 9, 2015 at 9:12 pm
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          I would prefer to like them, but there’s just not a whole lot to like.
          so…long live the first order…for a safe and secure society.

          • October 9, 2015 at 9:19 pm
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            like what????

          • October 10, 2015 at 12:50 am
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            I’m not sure why people take him serious lol. He knows next to nothing about the characters but still judges them as if he knows all about them or seen the movie. If hes judging purely on whether or not he finds these characters attractive or is bothered by the color of their skin then sure I guess….

          • October 10, 2015 at 12:10 am
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            I’ll take a look at their new super weapon before I make up my mind. If it’s anything like the Death Star I’m out.

    • October 10, 2015 at 12:08 am
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      Racism. Even present in the toy stores.

      • October 10, 2015 at 1:10 am
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        No… it’s just that there isn’t a draw for the new protagonist action figures. They’re not terribly distinct looking, which is the draw of the First Order ones and we don’t have any emotional connection, which is the draw of the OT’s protagonists.

        • October 10, 2015 at 2:19 am
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          You are right. No one but die hard fans care about the unknown characters. I don’ t understand the strategy of selling the merchandise before the movie hits theathers…

        • October 10, 2015 at 2:34 am
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          Only Finn was left.

    • October 10, 2015 at 2:17 am
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      Same in my country.

    • October 10, 2015 at 4:00 am
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      Is your country in Eastern Europe? Just curious…

  • October 9, 2015 at 9:13 pm
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    It’s not surprising the First Order figures are way more popular. They simply look freaking cool, very iconic. Still too much disconnect with the new characters. We know next to nothing about them. I’m sure they’ll be more popular after people have seen the movie.

    • October 10, 2015 at 1:08 am
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      Unfortunately, there’s not really a draw for action figures depicting the new leads. Their appearances alone are not terribly interesting. After we see the movie, who knows, maybe there will be appeal along the same lines as the Han Solo and Luke Skywalker action figures.

      But at this time? No.

  • October 9, 2015 at 9:13 pm
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    I don’t get the ‘sabre’ argument with regards to the Finn model. Its just an ideology pulled of the message board. Sticking a piece of plastic in a dolls hand wont change the popularity of the figure. If they don’t like the character or actor they are not going to sell whatever is in there hands.

    Haters are going hate – nothing you can do about it.

  • October 9, 2015 at 9:29 pm
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    “Powers” in that sentence may refer to the two factions in the war, i.e the First Order and the Resistance, although I think he meant “powers” in a literal sense (like “force powers ” for example). Maybe Finn doesn’t want to embrace his powers (assuming he has any), although I actually expected that to be Rey’s problem, not Finn’s.

    In any case., I still think the interpretation of the fans that Finn is not his real name, but rather an alias for FN 2187 is probably correct. It looks like JJ is enjoying though making us “clueless” about the story as Boyega claims we are.

    • October 10, 2015 at 12:46 am
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      I agree with you. The way is worded is tricky but if you read into it as much as I have it really seems like he meant “force powers” because he could have used another word. Then again like you also stated.. They seem to enjoy messing with us so who knows lol

  • October 9, 2015 at 9:46 pm
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    I’m thinking along the lines that Finn is Lando’s son, he looks like Lando, and Lando owns the last place that lightsaber was seen. If Finn grew up on Cloud City, that could explain how he got it.

    • October 9, 2015 at 9:48 pm
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      he looks like Lando

      Dude, don’t insult Billy Dee Williams like that.

      • October 10, 2015 at 12:32 am
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        Have you seen “Attack the Block”? This guy is awesome. No insult intended..

    • October 10, 2015 at 2:15 am
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      what do you mean by “he looks like Lando”? that he is black too? THAT makes him look like Lando? Dude this is really strange way to look at people…..

  • October 9, 2015 at 9:57 pm
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    I bought the Ren figure simply because it looked cool. I am sure that Finn is an interesting character. I don’t think that it always translates into toys though. His figure didn’t have a lightsaber or anything interesting. It’s not a big deal. lol

    • October 9, 2015 at 10:00 pm
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      it will be interesting if he saves the wookie. Will Chewie be his new friend for the series? Does he get the ship? maybe

      • October 9, 2015 at 10:02 pm
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        Think that’s the way it’s looking. Rey and BB-8 head off with Luke. Finn and Chewie take charge of the Falcon.

      • October 10, 2015 at 12:07 am
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        I’d be okay with that.

    • October 9, 2015 at 10:26 pm
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      Seeing as how he uses Luke’s, Just give him one of his spares.

  • October 9, 2015 at 10:25 pm
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    “He told me about his house”, lol. I would never take Harrison Ford for the MTV Cribs type. I guess 2 billion dollars = 4 billion pounds too? I think he means that this will be the first time that we see an Imperial trooper cross sides which happened all the time in the EU but never onscreen. Han, Biggs, Hobie, Dodonna, Madine, and Janson were all former Imperial officers as well but it was never stated in any of the films.

    • October 10, 2015 at 3:16 am
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      4 billion pounds = 6.12 billion US Dollars (one pound is actually worth about US$1.53).

      • October 10, 2015 at 4:36 am
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        Right on. I know the pound is worth more right now but I figured it would have been a lot more than that.

  • October 9, 2015 at 10:55 pm
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    I’m telling you guys. The “twist” will be that Finn is undercover as a spy. I think they did a superb job with “leaked spoilers” Oscar Issacs said the same thing, they’re aware of the rumors we hear, and they’ve said we have no idea of what the movie is actually about.

    • October 9, 2015 at 11:35 pm
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      I think the double agent trope is not original enough

      • October 10, 2015 at 12:05 am
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        Besides, the movie already has too many vilania ( Kylo Ren, Snoke, Phasma, Hux). There is no tomo for Finn being a double agent or a First Order spy.

        • October 10, 2015 at 12:42 am
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          No I meant that hes a spy for someone else, be it Luke or Leia or the Resistance. I took his reaction in the trailers to be of someone who was in over their head and folding under pressure. It’s said that hes an elite stormtrooper, it couldnt have been his first time out on the field for him to be so nervous. I think his mission is to get promoted to Kylo Ren’s squad and steal something.

          I’m most likely wrong, BUT don’t count out Finn becoming a Skywalker by being accepted to their little family. I think thats a huge possibility and a heartwarming “family” moment that we havent seen before in Star Wars

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            The panic reminded me of some one who had seen something they shouldn’t have and was desperate to get out of the r

    • October 10, 2015 at 12:37 am
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      I think it’d be pretty cool if all of the things we think we know from the trailer is bullshit and that Finn and Rey are established Jedi on a mission for an established Jedi order..sort of like Qui-Gon and Obi in TPM. I mean look at Rey’s getup it SCREAMS Jedi robes lol

    • October 10, 2015 at 7:58 am
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      That would be racist and stupid!

  • October 9, 2015 at 11:30 pm
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    This Tom Sayer guy’s disqus thread is made up entirely of trolling comments against John Boyega. I suspect he has cropped up under different guises ( and under those awful ‘anonymous’ headings back from several months ago ).
    Just what is his problem? He hasn’t even seen the movie yet and is just judging Boyega by the way he looks.

    • October 9, 2015 at 11:50 pm
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      Isn’t he allowed to?

      • October 10, 2015 at 12:14 am
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        Exactly.
        Boyega’s a lead or the lead in one of the biggest films in recent memory.
        It’s only natural for there to be some criticism of him.

    • October 10, 2015 at 12:10 am
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      Is 99% of the Star Wars fanbase also trolling?
      Because they share the same views as me.

    • October 10, 2015 at 2:10 am
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      well, speaking of it, I wouldnt mind if he had a smaller butt..

      • October 10, 2015 at 2:11 am
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        sigh

  • October 9, 2015 at 11:33 pm
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    This might confirm that he is the ‘bigger’ protagonist out of him and Rey, note how he said J.J. told him he was going to be “THE star”

    • October 10, 2015 at 12:01 am
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      I think Finn and Rey will be equally important. Rey of course is the new Skywalker.

      • October 10, 2015 at 1:01 am
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        As long as the name Skywalker continues. Like if she gets married, she bet keep her last name.

        • October 10, 2015 at 12:23 pm
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          Ha. Yeah. That’s why she can’t be a skywalker and if she is she can’t get married during this trilogy. They need the skywalker name for the next trilogy when Luke is gone.

  • October 9, 2015 at 11:44 pm
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    So he’s the new star. The Star Wars movies will move focus from the Skywalker’s to Finn.

    • October 10, 2015 at 3:51 am
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      good or bad thing?

    • October 10, 2015 at 5:06 pm
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      Yeah, after 6 movies where Anakin Skywalker was the central character of the story the next six will revolve around Finn and his rise and fall to the dark side…

      • October 10, 2015 at 5:43 pm
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        And the six movies after that will revolve around his children.
        If so I’m through with Star Wars.

  • October 10, 2015 at 12:27 am
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    Finn’s is a smoke screen to turn the attention away from the obvious “Rey” Who is the next Skywalker. That is why JJ has no problem showing Finn with a lightsaber early on.

    • October 10, 2015 at 12:35 am
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      Yeah, Thats what we all thought, but he wouldn’t do that to himself, even for the sake of ”secrecy” it seems cruel. This is yet another interview where Boyega refers to himself as THE star of the movie. He mentioned it in the interview where he recalled a moment he had with Harrison Ford where Ford was probably thinking “Dude you’re the star of the movie” when Boyega was fanboying about Han Solo. He mentioned it in his GQ interview and now here.. He’s calling himself the main lead. I do believe Rey is just as important and probably a Skywalker, but people are really overlooking the whole “Finn is searching for an identity” and disregarding that he could very well take on the Skywalker name.

      • October 10, 2015 at 1:01 am
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        You could argue Han Solo was the star of the movies and not Luke Skywalker. Or Obi-wan instead of Anakin. Or Qui-Gon in Episode 1. All a matter of perspective.

        • October 10, 2015 at 1:14 am
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          Yeah but they were fan favorites who became iconic characters because of their performance (Ford atleast) much different than having a meeting with an actor and telling him “You’re the new Star of Star Wars” before fans have a chance to see his performance and deem him as the “star” of the movie

          I do agree you have to put it perspective, I’m just not buying the whole “Finn is being used as a smokescreen for Rey” because its not like Daisy Ridley is this huge hidden secret ready to be unleashed upon our screens, and why would Finn have to be used to misdirect fans? No one is expecting a black Skywalker, that would be the bigger twist. No one saw the teasers nd thought “Hes a Skywalker!” no we all saw the young lady who resembled Natalie Portman and made that assumption. So on both counts (Skywalker lineage/ Star of the movie) I just don’t believe Boyega would have to be used to trick fans.

        • October 10, 2015 at 1:21 am
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          Star of Ep1 – Liam Neeson
          Star of Ep2 – Ewan Mcgregor
          Star of Ep3 – Ewan Mcgregor
          Star of Ep4 – Mark Hamill
          Star of Ep5 – Mark Hamill
          Star of Ep6 – Mark Hamill
          Star of Ep7 – Harrison Ford

          • October 10, 2015 at 3:11 am
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            Stars of Ep1= Natalie Portman and Liam Neeson.
            Stars of Ep2 = Natalie Portman and Hayden Christensen
            Stars of Ep3= Ewan MacGregor and Hayden Christensen
            Stars of Ep 4-6= Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher
            Stars of Ep 7 = probably Daisy Ridley and John Boyega.

            Again, movies usually don’t have a single star.

          • October 10, 2015 at 3:51 am
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            So Han was never a star?

          • October 10, 2015 at 4:05 am
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            He was a supporting star to Luke and Lea, who were the protagonists..

          • October 10, 2015 at 7:55 am
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            Ewan MacGregor? I just have the feeling that Episode III might a deeper meaning of Anakin and Obi Wan’s bonds to each other.

      • October 10, 2015 at 1:11 am
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        “The Star” is already known which is Harrison Ford, JJ knows Ford would not take a step back to Mark or Carrie. Which is why the original script was completely redone to make Harrison the main lead. I’m drawing straws here but I have a good guess that’s how it turned out.

        • October 10, 2015 at 1:22 am
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          I’m not sure if Ford played hard but he really is the only cast member that can carry a movie at this time.

        • October 10, 2015 at 1:27 am
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          And I don’t think Finn is a Skywalker if anything a Solo.

          From a biological point of view, how in the world could he be either???

          • October 10, 2015 at 1:46 am
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            Then you obviously have not read any of the new Books or Comics which are Canon, Han had a dark skin wife.

          • October 10, 2015 at 1:57 am
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            She’s not his wife. Age is also off

          • October 10, 2015 at 2:04 am
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            Huh Yes she is, Until another issue is released saying otherwise.

          • October 16, 2015 at 6:37 am
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            Yeah she’s not haha or at least he didn’t know they were.

          • October 10, 2015 at 2:07 am
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            Obviously. As 99% of moviegoers. If you think that the whole world knows anything about books or comics or “the new canon”, then you are wrong. Even among fanboys this is but a small group.

          • October 10, 2015 at 2:10 am
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            Then I am Obviously right, lol

          • October 10, 2015 at 2:16 am
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            Maybe if Han dies he takes his name as tribute…perhaps the whole movie is them being buddy buddy.

          • October 10, 2015 at 2:47 am
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            Finn will probably be the son of Zare Leonis from the show Rebels.

          • October 10, 2015 at 3:06 am
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            I don’t think Finn is related to Zare Leonis, but it would be cool if he was. I still think though that Rebels will be tied with TFA in some way and I also feel that Ezra will end up being more important in the SW universe than it might seem right now.

          • October 10, 2015 at 3:11 am
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            Totally agree. I’m also still looking for the tie in to TFA. I do believe the tie in might be the “The Seven” we’ve been hearing about but I’m with you… I can’t shake the feeling that Ezra is going to be important to the Star Wars universe.

          • October 10, 2015 at 5:13 am
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            That is exactly what i think. I also believe that the force sensitive kids turn out to be the Knights of Ren.

          • October 12, 2015 at 5:47 pm
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            Biologically, there is no reason why he can’t be either. The gene for higher melanin production is dominant (while the one for less production and thus light skin is recessive), and you don’t even need to express the gene to pass it on. This means that two white parents are just as likely to produce a white child as a black child, if even one of them happens to be carrying one instance of the dominant allele (so, for example, Padme could have a ‘black’ ancestor, carrying the gene without expressing it, then pass it down multiple generations).

            I’m not saying that’s the case here. But there’s no reason biologically that it can’t happen, especially in a galaxy where the Force gave Shmi Skywalker a virgin birth.

        • October 12, 2015 at 5:49 pm
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          Actually, he didn’t even want to be in another Star Wars movie. I doubt he asked for a larger role than was originally intended. If anything, his role would have had to been decreased after he was injured (in both the plane crash and the door incident).

      • October 10, 2015 at 1:16 am
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        And they’re also overlooking the fact that Disney/Lucasfilm must have told John to share that “You are the new star of Star Wars” story. He told it for the first time a few weeks ago and has shared it in every interview since then. Why is that?

        They must have not only given him the go ahead but told him to share this information. There are still so many fans in denial, though…

        • October 10, 2015 at 1:21 am
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          Yeah now that the movie is getting closer the actors are finally able to talk about their roles so you make a great point.

    • October 10, 2015 at 1:05 am
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      It makes no sense for Disney to “smoke screen” a female lead by making it look like her male co-star is the actual lead until the very last minute. (A) That’s not the way to lure female movie-goers, with a female lead they don’t even know about, and (B) That opens Disney up to charges of sexism later on if they hide their real lead just because she’s a woman.

      They’re not playing games with Finn and Rey. They’re introducing the characters, and it’s ludicrous to discount everything LFL is telling us about them as a red herring.

      • October 10, 2015 at 1:55 am
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        You misunderstood It’s not about gender, Just Goolge John Harrison, Khan and Star Trek Into Darkness and you will see whre I am going with this.

        • October 10, 2015 at 2:06 am
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          Making an old villain look like a new villain is not the same thing as making a main hero look like a supporting hero.

          Especially when that main hero is a woman.

          Disney is not stupid, and they don’t want to be charged with sexism later on when audiences start asking why they were hiding Rey behind a man.

          Conclusion: They are not hiding Rey behind Finn. These character are who they are being sold as.

          • October 10, 2015 at 2:16 am
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            Again, it’s not about gender. It’s about misinformation through the content they have released thus far.

          • October 10, 2015 at 2:51 am
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            We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

            I don’t see any plausible scenario where LFL repeatedly shows one of the new characters holding Luke’s original lightsaber, AND has that actor quoting the director in multiple interviews as saying “You are the new star of Star Wars”, purely as some sort of elaborate ruse.

          • October 12, 2015 at 5:43 pm
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            Agreed. Did you see the toy cutouts from Force Friday on Finn holding the lightsaber? I don’t know if I trust the House of Mouse to potentially mislead legions of little kids into believing Finn is ‘the hero’ only to pull the rug out from under them.

            Remember, this Star Wars is as much for the new generation as it is for us old fans (likely even moreso for them), and I don’t think they’d risk cheesing off both kids and parents who bought a bunch of Finn merchandise only to have been misled for months.

      • October 10, 2015 at 3:02 am
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        I don’t see why people keep arguing that Finn being the main character means Rey is somehow less important. It looks straightforward to me that Finn is the lead male character and Rey is the lead female character. They are equally important in the story.

        • October 12, 2015 at 5:41 pm
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          Completely agree! Why can’t they BOTH be important to the story?

    • October 10, 2015 at 4:35 am
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      I don’t know. I mean Boyega is the one giving all the interviews. He got a GQ cover. Got awarded some upcoming star award at a film festival and just got cast in The Circle with Tom Hanks. and Emma Watson. I don’t know if he is a Jedi but he seems to be the star of the film. He is the actor the studio is pushing anyway. I mean they could push Daisy Ridley the same way, but they don’t. Boyega is out there and we still don’t know that much about Finn. You could do the same with Daisy and still leave Rey a mystery. I just think if Rey is the main character like everyone says and this whole trilogy hinges on her I would think you would get her out there just as much as Boyega. Anything Boyega says or does is approved by Disney and JJ so they chose for Boyega to be face of the franchise in the media right now.

      • October 10, 2015 at 4:44 am
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        I find it odd. I am convinced that Rey is the star, but would JJ be that immature as to promote Boyega so much and use him just as a smokescreen.

        • October 10, 2015 at 5:08 am
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          It could be a smokescreen, but it might also be Daisy’s lack of experience. I think she is gorgeous and she seems very nice, but her interviews seem to be a bit awkward (she hasn’t done much acting from the looks of it, so the promotion stuff is new to her). Boyega is smooth and cool, and seems to understand the game better.

          • October 11, 2015 at 5:02 am
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            so….just throwing Boyega out there as the star because he’s better at interviews? …….

          • October 11, 2015 at 7:18 am
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            Would just ultimately make him the star of the movie regardless. I know Poe is rumored to be the “New Han” as far as archetype goes, but i’m just getting vibes, and I think Finn is going to be like Han and become the “star” of this movie regardless. Hes such a terrific actor and using Star Wars as a platform to showcase his talents will only benefit in the long run in his career. He’s the Harrison Ford of this new trilogy.

          • October 11, 2015 at 5:00 pm
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            I can see Mathews point. Isn’t it obvious to you?

          • October 11, 2015 at 8:27 pm
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            no….explain

        • October 10, 2015 at 5:47 am
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          “I am convinced that Rey is the star, but would JJ be that immature as to promote Boyega so much and use him just as a smokescreen.”

          It would be odd if Disney marketing executives were so inept as to misrepresent one of their leads just two months before opening day. I’m trying to think of a single example of a movie studio doing such a thing in the past.

          Sounds far more likely that he’s being marketed honestly.

          • October 10, 2015 at 11:45 pm
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            Mhm. People are overthinking it and really trying to think up a scenario where JJ and Disney trick the fans with Boyega and then SIKE, meet Daisy Ridley!

            It doesn’t make sense. If Rey is indeed the star, they did a terrible job promoting her. Theres no reason to keep her in the shadows just because shes a “Skywalker”

            Boyega is reaping all the benefits of being in Star Wars

          • October 11, 2015 at 5:02 am
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            Yeah. I mean it does not take a genius to know that the person who has the power too that luke says in the trailer is Rey. So trying to think up some kind of trick would be very stupid.

      • October 10, 2015 at 5:29 am
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        “Anything Boyega says or does is approved by Disney and JJ so they chose
        for Boyega to be face of the franchise in the media right now.”

        Exactly. Disney and Lucasfilm are pushing this “the new star of Star Wars” anecdote. They are trying to give fans a hint. A rather enormous one.

    • October 10, 2015 at 10:48 am
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      Rey is the skywalker But Finn is also a jedi why is that such a stretch? Its not like force sensitives arent born everywhere…remember the kid is rebels that helps ezra is undercover lookinf for his sister who was taken away to be RETRAINED because she was force sensitive…Could be a connection

  • October 10, 2015 at 1:01 am
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    Finn is Luke’s butler who sweeps up with a broom that has a purple light saber as a handle and drinks grape soda and strawberry quick all day long.He also complains that the Empire was racist & Vader being a white guy in a black suit of armor is the same as black face.

  • October 10, 2015 at 1:16 am
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    I DON’T CARE THE PLOT, THE SECRECY, THE TOYS, THE TRAILER, THE DATES, THE DEATHS, THE CAST, THE DIRECTOR, THE DISNEY, or the lack of any such things.
    I am just so excited for this movie and I will do my best to patiently await seeing it (though I will be online at midnight the 19th to buy reserved tickets – just to make sure).

  • October 10, 2015 at 1:21 am
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    Anybody else think John looks really angry holding a blaster?

    • October 10, 2015 at 1:28 am
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      Sorry if I missed this earlier, but why do you hate Finn so much? Not that I expect an intelligent answer but you’re really obsessed with him. I almost wonder if you’re secretly in love with him.

      • October 10, 2015 at 1:30 am
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        I’m just wondering how Finn could be so hostile and still be a Jedi?
        It’s hard to swallow, just like bad mother****er Samuel L. Jackson as a Jedi was hard to swallow.

        • October 10, 2015 at 1:37 am
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          OK… But he’s NOT a Jedi at least as far we know. He’s a confused ex-stormtrooper that at some point is given a lightsaber. By the way, you’re seeing what you want to see. He looks determined. Perhaps this determination is intimidating to you?

          • October 10, 2015 at 4:38 am
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            he’s a rasict piece shit no life having virgin.

        • October 10, 2015 at 4:41 am
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          So you DO love Finn. Now i get the obsession.

      • October 10, 2015 at 2:53 am
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        “I almost wonder if you’re secretly in love with him.”

        I think you hit the nail on the head. Poor Daisy and John, having to deal with all these nutjob stalkers.

  • October 10, 2015 at 2:04 am
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    This thread is stinking due to all the thinly veiled racism and assholish behaviour from the likes of people like Tom sawyer

    • October 10, 2015 at 2:14 am
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      Prior to the release of TPM, I’m sure you were also defending Jar Jar Binks and ridiculing anyone who expressed the idea that he might not be such a great addition to the Star Wars universe.

      • October 10, 2015 at 2:28 am
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        oh fuck of you troll, how can you compare him to jar jar, from that alone I know you are a racist butthurt troll

        • October 10, 2015 at 2:29 am
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          If you think I’m trolling, just wait until December….the troll floodgates will burst open like never before.

          It’s gonna be EPIC, and will be the highlight of TFA and personally I can’t wait. lOL

          • October 10, 2015 at 2:31 am
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            no you CAN wait, I can sense your butthurt it gives you retardation, it makes you an asshat

          • October 10, 2015 at 4:37 am
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            you are the epitome of what is wrong with the star wars fandom. congrats.

          • October 10, 2015 at 4:39 am
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            But a lot are like him….which is the sad thing

          • October 10, 2015 at 11:51 am
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            I second that. This guy is a complete disgrace and he’s stinking up these boards. He’ll take several new guises I suspect when he’s exhausted his “Tom Sawyer” name.

        • October 10, 2015 at 5:04 am
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          Let’s not feed the trolls 🙂 The best way to deal with trolls is to ignore them. Eventually the moderators will remove them. People like that enjoy the response they get, whether it is here on a Star Wars board, or posting on the facebook page of a dead person, or any way they can incite outrage and disgust. They get a weird sort of kick out of it. It’s actually really sad, I feel sorry for them. Can you imagine living a life where that is how you chose to spend your time?

          • October 10, 2015 at 6:21 am
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            Exactly this. These “trolls” aren’t bad people. Mostly it’s people with issues that treat the internet as their release. I’ve seen a few of his other comments that would suggest that hes not a “racist” but instead fed into it because of his replies with a “I’am what you say I’am” mentality. He does seem to dislike John Boyega or Finn the character, and I won’t pull any cards because theres actors I just dislike, but I just feel like we have to see the movie first before judging as if we saw it. I do feel bad for people that feel like they have to take it to the internet to let out frustration but hey.. MEH.

  • October 10, 2015 at 2:12 am
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    Just gonna leave this here for anyone that says Rey is the JEDI and not Finn

    • October 10, 2015 at 2:45 am
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      You ain’t proved shit fool. lol

      • October 10, 2015 at 2:46 am
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        ass hole here is the conclusion

        • October 10, 2015 at 3:02 am
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          So Kylo’s says Sith, Rey’s says Jedi and Finn’s says rebel.

          Like i said you still ain’t proved shit fool. lol

          • October 10, 2015 at 10:43 am
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            not only that but Kylo is not a sith lol there are none left he is a Knight of Ren

    • October 10, 2015 at 10:42 am
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      why is it that there is only one jedi? i mean Why is he case not Rey is the jedi and Finn is the Jedi ?

    • October 10, 2015 at 2:29 pm
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      Why would you assume that either are Jedi if they haven’t been trained by a Jedi yet?

      • October 11, 2015 at 6:16 am
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        His point is that R2 is labeled as a Jedi here just as the Stormie is labeled as a Sith meaning that the symbols on the cards from Ep. 7 don’t necessarily have anything specific to do with a characters force ability or training but rather an overall affiliation.

  • October 10, 2015 at 2:22 am
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    With Finn being a Jedi, I wonder it’s now an inevitability that at some point in the ST the Force ghost of Rick James will also materialize?

    This is how far we’ve jumped the shark in the ridiculousness department.

    • October 10, 2015 at 2:44 am
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      woow you really hate this film, what a jackass, well I dont mind one less asshole in the theatre. make space for the real fans racist dumbass

      • October 10, 2015 at 2:51 am
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        Let him enjoy the internet. Hes the type that wouldn’t dare show this sort of attitude outside of his cave lol.

    • October 10, 2015 at 2:56 am
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      An “I’m Gonna Git You Sucka” reference…yikes…how old are you?…haha

      • October 10, 2015 at 4:15 am
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        My age….lol

    • October 10, 2015 at 3:08 am
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      no…he doesn’t

    • October 10, 2015 at 3:38 am
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      Real question Tom…do you have any friends? If you’re lonely AND bored, I can give you a number to call. Don’t worry about thanking me.

    • October 10, 2015 at 4:15 am
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      Yes….Whitey, you may watch television….

    • October 10, 2015 at 3:24 am
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      Can we ban this asshole yet? Pretty please?

      • October 10, 2015 at 3:41 am
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        With two sugars on top?

  • October 10, 2015 at 3:21 am
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    Let us be real here…Rey is the star and the Skywalker.

    But i will laugh so hard if finn is actually the star to see how the racists react.

    HA HA!

    • October 10, 2015 at 9:19 am
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      I have no problem with Finn being a jedi…..but Finn being a Skywalker makes no sense because neither Luke or Leia are black, and even if they did get with a very black partner, their kid would still be mixed looking: Leia is white with brown hair and Luke is white with blonde hair and blue eyes….there is no way either of them are producing a child that looks like Finn. It has nothing to do with whether or not I’m “racist”, but everything to do with common sense. Finn being a jedi is fine, but Finn being a Skywalker is moronic, and will just further illustrate how out of touch the filmmakers are if true.

      • October 10, 2015 at 10:40 am
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        they wiould look like Drake or Chris Brown or Halle Berry or Lenny Kravits or the Bunches of mixed americans 🙂

      • October 10, 2015 at 9:15 pm
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        Again.. You, like many others, are overlooking that Finn can take on the Skywalker name just like Leia took on the Organa name. Finn is said to be searching for an identity and maybe hes accepted into the Solo-Skywalker family by the end of the movie. He has nobody, no family and no friends, and however unlikely it might be, its possible and would fit the “Family” theme they are going for. He doesn’t have to carry their blood to be accepted into their family. It sounds refreshing to me, I seriously just think its all depending on if people can handle it. I’ve seen alot of people having trouble dealing with a Black person in Star Wars, for various reasons.

        • October 12, 2015 at 5:36 pm
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          He’s actually overlooking more than that– he’s overlooking actual genetics. The myth that two white parents have to produce a white child– or that mixed parents will automatically produce a lighter-skinned black child– is completely false. Genetically speaking, you’re as likely to produce a black child as a white child if you happen to be carrying the dominant allele for higher melanin production, and said gene doesn’t even need to be physically expressed by you in order for your offspring to express it.

          The myth only began as a way of trying to encourage “pure” breeding and anti-miscegenation.

        • October 13, 2015 at 4:13 am
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          If he adapts the Skywalker name by the end of the movie, then he doesn’t have Skywalker ancestory as “rumored”. Luke & Leia, regardless of partner, cannot produce a black biological child that looks like Finn.

        • October 13, 2015 at 4:15 am
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          If he adapts the Skywalker name by the end of the movie, then he doesn’t have Skywalker ancestory as “rumored”. Luke & Leia, regardless of partner, cannot produce a black biological child that looks like Finn. Stop trying to turn this into a “racial” thing when it’s a logic and common sense thing. Myself and the bulk of Star Wars fans have no problem with black protagonist in Star Wars, it’s a white couple giving birth to a black child that doesn’t make any sense. Even the people that complained about Finn being a stormtrooper weren’t racist, they were just under the assumption that all clones looked like Jango Fett thanks to Attack Of The Clones.

          • October 20, 2015 at 1:27 am
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            “Common sense” is often wrong. 😀

    • October 10, 2015 at 3:03 pm
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      They’d react about the same as when chinese people are forced to endure western main characters in their movies.

      • October 12, 2015 at 5:32 pm
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        Movies like the Forbidden Kingdom and the Last Samurai hardly qualify as Asian cinema, even if they *pretend* to be Asian-themed xD

        • October 12, 2015 at 5:49 pm
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          A lot of americans are asian.

          • October 12, 2015 at 8:09 pm
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            Yes, but “Asian cinema” usually refers to film industries and films produced in the continent of Asia. Those films are mimicking the setting but no critic would qualify them as Asian cinema. A proper example would be films like the Joy Luck Club, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, the original version of Oldboy, etc (note that the JLC is an American film)

      • October 20, 2015 at 1:24 am
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        You analogy is so far off that it makes zero sense. Are you comparing Asian culture to what exactly? Star Wars culture? What would that be and what do people from that culture look like?

        • October 20, 2015 at 1:03 pm
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          Star Wars is a western made production. I’m helping you look at diversity from a different perspective so you might understand it’s faulty logic.

    • October 10, 2015 at 5:30 pm
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      I don’ t agree, Rey, Finn and Poe are the stars.

  • October 10, 2015 at 4:04 am
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    What about that rumor of some Stormtroopers (SPOILER just in case)

    wielding Sabers? That could sure explain alot about Finn.

    • October 10, 2015 at 4:38 am
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      If Abrams does that….which he might, he is a moron. The saber is a special weapon meant only for jedi…not just anyone.

      • October 10, 2015 at 4:55 am
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        The original drafts of Star Wars had Stormtroopers wielding sabers and I believe the only reason it didnt make the final draft was because it was too expensive. So no, he wouldn’t be a moron imo, and the rumor is that Stormtroopers train in combat with melee weapons such as shields, swords and possibly lightsabers. I wouldn’t want to see that though.

        • October 10, 2015 at 4:59 am
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          Neither would I….and i think it’s better if it stays as sabers only for jedi

          • October 10, 2015 at 5:57 am
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            Agreed. I respect original ideas and its cool to give a nod but in this case.. Just use it for a few characters if you have to. I can deal with Phasma and Finn possibly being stormtroopers able to wield sabers, and if you HAD to have this capability, have the troopers suck at it atleast, heck they suck with blasters. Either way.. its become standard and sabers should be restricted to force users, not just jedi*

        • October 10, 2015 at 2:59 pm
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          Yeah but they still didn’t make it to the final drafts.

          • October 11, 2015 at 7:41 am
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            Again, My point was that it wasn’t JJ’s idea. I thought that was clear lol

        • October 10, 2015 at 5:26 pm
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          the original draft is the original draft..it didn’ t make it to the movie. So it doesn’ t exist in the Star Wars universe. Not only that. The whole six movies showed us that lightsaber is exclusively a jedi weapon. And please don’ t bring here Grievous.

          • October 10, 2015 at 5:33 pm
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            The whole six movies never said or showed such a thing: they actually show non-force users handling lightsabers.

            It’s said, however, that lightsabers are “jedi weapons” much as one can say that katanas are “samurai weapons” – meaning they are weapons of choice, not that Jedi/Samurai are the only ones who can use them.

          • October 20, 2015 at 1:16 am
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            I think it is more than just about being able to turn it on or wave it around. I think it is about being able to use it with any level of skill. A non-force user is not going to being using it to block blaster fire for instance. That would be like someone trying to use a katana to cut a bullet in half.

          • October 10, 2015 at 9:09 pm
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            I said it was in the original draft just to clarify that its not an idea of JJ, and that was my point.

          • October 11, 2015 at 4:56 am
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            Yes sir

    • October 10, 2015 at 7:02 am
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      I would like to see a cool modified version of the lightsaber reserved for a special squadron of Stormtroopers that Finn happens to be a part of.

  • October 10, 2015 at 5:09 am
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    I will bet my house that at least ONE of those predictions is inaccurate 🙂

  • October 10, 2015 at 5:57 am
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    He’s an android tell ya now

    • October 10, 2015 at 7:00 am
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      Lol I hope not.

  • October 10, 2015 at 8:32 am
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    I’m guessing Finn is a double agent. He’s Force-sensitive, yes, and maybe even trained with the lightsaber. But his allegiance is to the Resistance all the time, so he doesn’t really switch sides. In the beginning of the film his cover is blown and that’s why he’s on the run and needs help from Rey. It’ll be interesting to see what the future of his character is.

  • October 10, 2015 at 9:21 am
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    Interesting news, I’m thinking Finn’s struggle is that he was a part of the First Order and has a crisis of conscience and switches over to the good guys upon the discovery of his force powers? That said, I have no problem with Finn being a jedi…..but Finn being a Skywalker makes no sense because neither Luke or Leia are black, and even if they did get with a very black partner, their kid would still be mixed looking: Leia is white with brown hair and Luke is white with blonde hair and blue eyes….there is no way either of them are producing a child that looks like Finn. It has nothing to do with whether or not I’m “racist”, but everything to do with common sense. Finn being a jedi is fine, but Finn being a Skywalker is moronic, and will just further illustrate how out of touch the filmmakers are if true.

    • October 10, 2015 at 10:03 am
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      What you’re thinking, is what everyone can and has assumed but that seems ridiculously obvious and kinda boring. I hope it’s much more complex or unique than that. And boyega seems to hint that it is much more complex than that. But even if he’s lying and that’s exactly what happens, it’s still not to shabby of a conflict story.

      • October 13, 2015 at 8:13 am
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        So….even if what you said seems ridiculously obvious and kinda boring happens, it’s still not too shabby a conflict story? Lol, okay….

    • October 12, 2015 at 5:29 pm
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      Look up Sandra Laing. She was born “colored” in Apartheid-era South Africa to AT LEAST three generations of white ancestors. If you looked at her on the street you would swear she was born to black parents (or at least mixed parents).

      The allele that controls melanin production (and thus dark skin tones) is dominant, while the allele that causes less melanin production (and thus ‘white’ skin tone) is recessive. Because these alleles– like height, etc– are polygenic traits, if either parent is carrying the dominant gene, their offspring are as likely to express the dominant skin tone as they are the recessive (in other words, a white parent who passes it on is as likely to produce a black child as a white child). Only one of their ancestors needs to possess the gene (not express it) because it originates from different loci during conception.

      That said, as a med student I am not surprised in the least that more people don’t realize this. The only real genetics most people ever learn is simple Mendelian traits, and that’s only taught in grade school in most of the Western world. The idea that light-skinned parents ONLY produce children with their physical traits while colored people can only come from interracial breeding has way more to do with racial biases, anti-miscegenation laws, etc than actual scientific fact.

      • October 13, 2015 at 4:10 am
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        Oh, gimme a break. An albino couple isn’t going to give birth to a black black Jamaican child. The only way that would happen is through a few generations of interracial mating, and gradually with each couple as they get progressively darker than the last.

        • October 14, 2015 at 11:32 am
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          This is completely untrue, biologically-speaking. You should really spend some time researching genetics (specifically, polygenic traits like skin color and height, and how they are expressed/passed down to offspring) before you express beliefs like these as if they are fact.

          Also, point of fact, Luke is not an albino. Han is not an albino. Leia is not an albino. Albinism is a congenital disorder. Being born blonde-haired and blue-eyed (like say, Mark Hamill) is NOT the same as being albino and has no effect on whether you’re able to produce a “black black” child. The only thing that matters is if you are carrying the dominant allele for melanin production in your DNA. That’s literally the only thing required for it to be possible, you don’t even need to be expressing said gene.

    • October 20, 2015 at 1:09 am
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      I have to disagree with you on the “mix” thing sometimes people with a child,and the parents are of different “races”, that child can look like the “race” of just one of their parents. This is not typical, but It does happen. Besides that, this movie is set in a fantasy universe. There was a t.v. show “The Neighbors” on ABC about an alien human family were they all looked like a member of a different race from each other. Just something to think about.

  • October 10, 2015 at 9:54 am
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    “Tom Sawyer”, “Ted NewGent” or whatever moniker you’re going under today, Please Jog On.

  • October 10, 2015 at 10:51 am
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    You guys read too much into things, the way he phrased you the new Star of Star Wars can mean so many things, first of all all 3 main lead are the new Stars of Star Wars, second, every poster every magazine cover, everything so far is Rey on front and center, i have no doubt she is THE star of the new trilogy, that doesn’t mean Poe and Finn won’t be important

    • October 10, 2015 at 5:20 pm
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      Eduardo, as I thing there is no ONE star of Game of thrones, there is no just one main star in Star Wars. Here the lead is the trio, not just Rey. In OT it was Luke, Leia and Han.

      • October 11, 2015 at 1:24 am
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        I agree with your point to some extent, but you can’t compare GOT with Star Wars the TV Show have 10 hours per season to develop characters, the books hundreds of page, you can’t have that big of scope in Star Wars Saga movies, one of that bad things about the prequels is that was so much going on to people focus on, i think you need a clear lead to move on the Plot

  • October 10, 2015 at 1:23 pm
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    Did some cleaning here. Someone has been banned. Please guys be respectful to each other.

    • October 10, 2015 at 5:15 pm
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      Thank You Viral Hide. It was really, REALLY souring the comments section here. While it’s good to be able to like or dislike and be passionate about certain topics, the one particular commentor was causing a real stink. Thank you for the clean-up.

    • October 11, 2015 at 4:51 am
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      Good seeing mods doing the right mod thing.

    • October 11, 2015 at 5:06 am
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      Thanks so much. There’s no room for racism in Star Wars, or here.

    • October 11, 2015 at 7:08 am
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      Thanks Hide. Sucks that this is an issue in 2015 but I’m glad you were quick to react. Lets keep this comment section clean, and fun ofcourse!

    • October 12, 2015 at 2:28 pm
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      Thank you….I hate people who spread Bantha fodder.

  • October 10, 2015 at 8:13 pm
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    Finn might be the son of Leia and Lando…. A double agent for the resistsance, a full cousin to Rey ( Luke’s daughter) and an aspiring Jedi…

    • October 10, 2015 at 9:08 pm
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      I think none of the above will turn out to be the case.

  • October 10, 2015 at 10:50 pm
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    *POTENTIAL SPOILER – Just saw on Zulily.com. Finn’s costume titled: “Finn Galfridian” Dress-Up Set for kids. Do they know something we don’t?

    • October 11, 2015 at 12:33 am
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      Look up “Galfridian family”, it mentions a force sensitive son of a king named “Finn” in a Dark Horse comic from 2010. You’re on to something

      • October 12, 2015 at 12:01 pm
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        Finn Galfridian has a sister also. If Gugu is not cast as a a love interest maybe she’ll play his sister in episode 8??

      • October 12, 2015 at 8:51 pm
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        woaa! wtf?! thats crazy if that all connects to this.

    • October 11, 2015 at 2:04 am
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      Great find! Intriguing…

  • October 11, 2015 at 4:55 am
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    Luke always came across to me as the LEAD in Star Wars and Han with Leia were the co-leads.

    I still think Rey is the lead and heroine, but Finn may be another kind of hero going on another path.

    Or…shock horror…two heroes? Two jedi? Is it a crime for there to be two Jedi?

    • October 11, 2015 at 7:06 am
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      Finn and Rey are the leads. Finn is looking like the star though. As I said hes reaping the benefits of being in the movie thus far. Although I’m sure Ridley will get more roles AFTER this movie is out. Having just one Jedi in the new trilogy would make the universe seem super small. Finn and Rey could both be the next generation of Jedi but with completely different stories, and Finns story could very well not include Luke at all.

  • October 11, 2015 at 6:21 am
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    With a name like Sifo Dyas, I’m not going to bet on a chance cube with you. You’ll pull a Qui-Gon and manipulate it with the force 🙂

  • October 11, 2015 at 11:07 am
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    I think Finn is actually a stowaway on a star destroyer and steals armour and a tie fighter. Not a soldier at all, just a guy who found himself in a tight spot

    • October 20, 2015 at 12:52 am
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      Why do you think that? What possibly could lead to that conclusion?

      • October 20, 2015 at 4:04 am
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        Partially just a guess, but it is my speculation that since Boyega said that it is a unique narrative and also that noone has come close to guessing why he is wearing the armour and in the circumstance he is in, it seems possible that he’s not actually a soldier at all. Most people are just taking that fact for granted. I thought I’d throw out a completely different perspective. Any other off base off beat guesses?

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