Star Wars: Han Solo – Alden Ehrenreich Reportedly Cast in Title Role.
While Lucasfilm hasn’t made a huge official announcement just yet about who’s playing Han Solo, The New York Post‘s Page Six publication is reporting with confidence that Alden Ehrenreich has landed the role. Considering that co-director Christopher Miller just teased the character’s iconic blaster, it seems as though production on the movie should be starting up fairly soon…
From Page Six:
After thousands of actors were considered to portray a younger Han Solo for a Star Wars spinoff, Alden Ehrenreich has landed the coveted role.
Hollywood sources tell us Ehrenreich has signed on to play the iconic role, made famous by Harrison Ford, in the new movie, slated for 2018, which will focus on Solo before he joined the Rebel Alliance.
One insider told us of Ehrenreich, 26, who most recently appeared in Hail, Caesar!: “Alden really impressed Disney and Lucasfilm execs with his screen tests. The deal is basically done.”
As some of you know, we were the first to report that Ehrenreich was being considered for the role. Right now, The Hollywood Reporter, Variety, and Deadline are all backing up Page Six‘s most recent article, so it seems extremely likely that they’re on the right track.
Just for frame of reference, here’s a picture of what Harrison Ford looked like near the end of high school, which will presumably be about the age that Han Solo will be in the film:
Based on the above image, it seems like they could make Ehrenreich look like a much younger version of Ford – but the real challenge will be filling in Solo’s big soles, as playing the character after Ford defined the character in four blockbusters are some pretty big shoes to fill.
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I have a bad feeling about this…
I’m as cautious as anyone about this flick, but this guy really was fantastic in Hail Caesar! … so…
They could actually make it work, especially if they do some post CGI work like they did in Ant-Man.
The technology is definitely there, they just need to use it right.
AH! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!
I actually prefer the Trumpier version now.
I can see it! I trust the professionals that actually cast actors, especially the casting directors at Lucas Film since Lucas left. Although, Alden has HUGE shoes to fill! No pressure or anything, Alden…..
I have a relatively good feeling about this still. Loved Ehrenreich’s performance in Hail Caesar!, he’s certainly talented to stay the least. All Kasdan’s SW scripts have been very good (ESB, ROTJ, TFA). And having finally seen the Jump Steet films, I can say that Phil Lord and Chris Miller are perfect for this film. They can nail action comedy, which I do feel would be a proper fit for a young Han Solo character.
In other words, I’m confident it has all the potentital to be a great movie, my issue is simply whether Han Solo will truly feel like the Han Solo we know and love. Kasdan knows how to write for the character, that’s a given. But can Ehrenreich and the Miller/Lord duo can pull off a convincing Han Solo. The dialogue can be there, but there are many nuances in the performance and direction that will be necessary to satisfy the audience.
Why? Just why?
He looks a lot closer to Han than most of the other potentials..
Well, isn’t this just great… There were many good actors who looks more like Ford (Jack Reynor), so why did they pick the one guy who looks NOTHING like Ford at all? This guy Ehrenreich was probably picked because he’s friends with Steven Spielberg. *Cough* nepotism *cough*
I tend to agree. I also think people complaining that “We don’t need a Harrison Ford impression” will get exactly that. So not only will this new guy look nothing like Ford, but he will be doing impressions ( without which he’ll likely be entirely devoid of any semblance to Han Solo ).
Would be much better to go with someone who looks like Ford in the same way they got the young Mon Mothma actress to look like the ROTJ Mon Mothma actress. One could argue that it’s much, much more important to get Han Solo closer to Harrison than to get Mon Mothma ( a minor character ) right.
In the long run, fans are gonna be more pissed that he doesn’t look like Ford. I hate it when people say “I want the actor to capture the character and not do an impression.” When the character and actor are inseparable, it’s IMPOSSIBLE to not do an impression of some kind and make it feel legitimate. There’s really no other way to pull this off. Unless they can CGI his face up and have him do a vocal impression of Ford, it WILL. NOT. WORK.
Precisely. And let’s also remember that this movie Young Han is not a reboot, but is in-continuity, so how Han can go from a short, square-faced, button-nosed man to the 6 foot plus Harrison Ford in the space of a few months or years, is just not believable.
Exactly. The canon is so tightly knit, especially now, that it wouldn’t make sense for them to do something like this. I’m really hoping these rumors are false.
Yes, thanks for pointing out my thoughts exactly, guys. I feel this film already had enough problems behind it, but now they got one huge problem.
I will see this movie opening night. I am not familiar with the actor. I’ll have faith they think he has what it takes to make a worthy prequel to Han Solos known story. I am confident that Chewie will at least go just fine.
I wish they use a reasonable amount of prostetic to finish the look, just a little to say “yeah, that s Solo!”, but not too much (not as Cloud Atlas). Well I am saying this but maybe he’s so good that we don’t even need that.
they should have got ingruber, I give up on Disney’s star wars now, it is just not doing it for me. the rogue one trailer looked shit and we got now this.
This news actually didn’t even get me excited one bit. How telling is that for my own interest. That said, let’s see what the first pics and first trailer look like. I’ll be waiting to be convinced this film will be good.
Far be it from me to convince someone to like a movie. Its gotta be one of the most pointless things someone can do. But seriously, man, ARE YOU ON CRACK?
*TROLOLOLOLOLO!*
Agreed
This would have made a nice Happy May the 4th announcement, but who am I to judge….
It would have ruined the day for me. Thank God they didn’t..
I dunno, I love Lord-Miller and Ehrenreich was such a pleasure to watch in Hail! Cesar that this could be all it needs to be..
For those complaining he looks nothing like Ford, think about Indy3: River, again, didnt resemble physically Ford to any degree, yet, his charisma and power of performance made him the ultimate, and believable Young Indy. If you think about it, when they were casting for the TV show, they were looking more for River lookalike rather than Harrison’s. I dont understand people having problem with this movie while having no issues with The Last Crusade, or the Chronicles.. Indy is as iconic as Han Solo (possibly even more, say, for me) and while replacing mature Ford with another actor (say recast, like Indiana Jones rumors from 2015) would be a blesphemy, I have no problem with a talented actor to play a young version of the character especially if he has the chops and gravity required.
On the side note: I miss River so much, he was such an outstanding talent and a human being
I haven’t seen the tv show, but, to be honest, the guy doing young Indiana Jones looks more similar to harrison ford than this guy. Plus, the young Han in the spin off is supposed to be a 20-25 years old han, so, not that much younger than the han we saw in ANH. Young indy in Indy 3 was a teenager, while old indy was 30-ish, an age shift wich leaves room for big phisical changes.
naah Kennedy said that Han is gonna be “late teens” in the movie
Late teens to me is 18-19. I recall young Indy being younger. And – Look at the guy. Does he seem to you 18-19?
Sounds like Disney got their man. Great appointment.
Ummmm. Nope
I dreamt this night that I went on this site and found an article about this movie being canceled. I just woke up and found this…
While I’m not confident at all, they might succeed at making Han solo. With tons of prostetics or maybe motion capture, but they might have a slight chance. Still I’m not that hopeful.
sounds like a bad idea.
At least its not Idris Elba.
You’ve went and found an even better casting blunder didn’t you LOL
There was a wide search. They have top professionals doing the casting. And in the reports it says Ehrenheich gave an impressing screen test. For me this is convincing enough. I trust them. Besides, it’s about more than just looks. It’s about getting the the tone and feel of the thing right. When those things are in place, you will forget if the actor isn’t an exact replica of a younger Harrison Ford.
Brilliant, brilliant casting. He was so good in Hail Caesar – funny and charming. Hopefully this will shut up the Ingruber trolls (though I wouldn’t bet on it : )
Yep, you would lose money… Ingruber or nothing.
Ingruber has the acting chops of a High School senior drama student, who got the part for looking just like the book’s description of the character.
He can do impressions fine, and he’s a better actor than me sure, that’s not saying much, but why would you peg the success or failure of a film on a guy who has been in one movie as a glorified cameo, and one short film talking about suicide.
The movie, regardless of who they cast, will probably be a very well directed and well told story. In that way it’ll be a success. But look at Channing Tatum in the Jump Street movies also made by Lord and Miller. Before going in everyone thought he was a shit actor and he worked. The movie can work on all accounts but if the actor doesn’t resemble Ford in this universe that’s been tightly knit, it’s gonna fail and people aren’t gonna buy it in the long run. That’s really why people are pulling for Ingruber. Also the acting in the Star Wars movies has never been good so I don’t get this “WE NEED THE BEST ACTOR!” mentality.
Channing Tatum is mostly eye candy though, and he fits his roles fine in that they require athletic ability and usually dancing skill. As well as usually kind of a dumb personality.
People didn’t like 21 or 22 Jump Street for just Channing Tatum though, they liked it for the chemistry between Tatum and Hill, complete opposites in regard to their characters talents as well as personal skills. There is where the success lied, not just Tatum. Plus, it had a good script and some pretty clever humor.
You’re right in that they don’t need the BEST actor, but it’s better to have a good actor as your lead than just a guy who looks exactly like Harrison.
Alden looks plenty close enough to resemble a younger version of Han Solo, not Harrison but Han solo. Which is what he will be playing. River Phoenix doesn’t really look anything like Harrison Ford either but pulled off the young Indy look very well in The Last Crusade.I think people are severely underestimating this movie which, in it’s own right, is a good thing, and I think that’ll only help it once it’s released. People are still going to see this movie regardless and the ones who have been stating that they aren’t are either lying to themselves or they are in the very vocal minority.
In the long run, it’s whether the actor portrays the character faithfully to the source not how close he resembles the other guy who played the same character.
Another boring and lifeless Disney puppet – yawn…
You may not post here much but you always sum up exactly what I’m thinking before I post it when you do on here and JTA.
The saddest thing is that most of “die hard Star Wars fanboys” don`t care if Disney destroyes the mythology created by Lucas and Kasdan, and if Disney respects the “big three”. They only want a new Star Wars movie like zombies or puppets, and eat with devotion all the crumbs that Disney throws to their insatiable and sick stomaches.
A true Star Wars fan should deny the existence of this aberration that, not only ends with the enigmatic origin of Solo, but changes the face of an +30 years icon of Pop Culture like Harrison Ford/Solo.
I don´t care if Alden Ehrenreich is a good or bad actor. The only thing here is he is not Han Solo.
We need new characters and new stories at other times, and not to aprove Disney do whatever they want with the classic trilogy and corrupt it. Disney doesn´t respect Star Wars History, they doens´t respect you at all. They ONLY want your hard earned money. Don´t forget that.
This movie doesn´t need to be done, because Harrison Ford IS Han Solo.
Time to time.
Yet this movie was one of the last ideas pitched by Lucas himself. Besides, Kasdan was tasked to write this film before Disney bought Lucasfilm.
Lucas also approved Star Wars Detours. Just saying….
I think they are just trying to use the last of Lucas’s ideas before they have to start coming up with their own.
If that were so they wouldn’t have binned his sequel trilogy treatment.
They still used parts of it I’m sure, they just didn’t use the draft that he gave them, because Kasdan and Abrams wanted to take it in a different route. The biggest idea that George wanted to use was that it involved the grandchildren of Anakin and Padme, which we knew there were four total in the old EU. I think George’s drafts only involved two grandchildren aka. Jacen and Jaina.
We got Ben Solo with TFA which resembles Jacen the most. Rey, still could be a Skywalker but that’s uncertain. At the least we have one Skywalker grandchild confirmed, and Rey is sort of like the spiritual succesor to Jaina. So, it’s not too far off from what George originally had planned.
I meant more with making these spinoffs, Pablo said Rogue One was John Knoll’s idea, and a Han Solo movie was one of Lucas’s ideas as well as one of Kasdan’s passion projects so naturally he’d want to work on it before not wanting to do anymore Star Wars movies. Kasdan has stated that he doesn’t want to work on anymore Star Wars movies after the Han Solo spinoff.
Do not criticize the infallible decisions of his holiness, the sacred Lucas. Certain posters here get extremely upset when anyone does that.
This “if you’re a true fan” is baloney, you can be whatever fan you choose to be, this isn’t a fucking religion. I can’t wait to see the Han Solo character explored given the time period. Disney a Business and I think they want to hit the ground running and making movies that star Han Solo and Boba Fett who of which are some of the most popular characters in the Star Wars universe.
Yeah the OP is just straight up acting like a gatekeeper.
That’s a crock. Kasdan & Lucas pitched the movie idea, it wasn’t cooked up in a boardroom by some cackling cartoon villain Disney suit. Disney’s not even in creative control of Star Wars – Lucasfilm is. Disney has a solid rep for giving their subsidiaries control over their franchises. Look at Marvel and Pixar.
I share doubts about whether this movie is a good idea but you can keep your “no true fan…” and “Disney just wants your money” nonsense.
Everybody always wants your money, no matter which company owns it, and Lucas was accused of the same.
Exactly. It’s as if it’s impossible for someone to be passionate and believe in their idea AND want to make money off it. It’s the most natural thing in the world for it to be both those things.
Who decides who cares or not? Who says it’s for you to decide what is and what isn’t?
If they Lucasfilm didn’t respect SW history TFA would have been a much different film.
At least it’s not a female. Also plasma should have been a male, just because that’s what the role needed!! Come on just cast the right people, no politics!
I think you Ment “Phasma” not “Plasma”
If Phasma was male nothing would have change for the movie (especially because she didn’t have a lot of screen time), so she didn’t need to be male at all
Don’t worry, the icky cooties girls will be kept to a minimum in this one.
I get the jab you’re making at him, but come on, you KNOW they won’t. Disney aint leaving that sweet, sweet pre-teen girl money on the table, so Han is getting a young woman, slightly older and definitely better, more skilled, and wiser than he is, to turn him into the man we know in ANH.
Assuming you’re serious, I have to ask – given the whole lot of nothing that ‘Plasma’ had to do in the movie, what does the gender of the actor matter? She was a coat hanger for a shiny costume and that’s it.
With all due respect to Mr. Ehrenreich, who I’m sure is talented, the only way I’d be interested in this is with a de-aged Ford. So short of getting in a time machine and grabbing Ford from the 60s…..and even then I’m not sure I want an origin story.
Right now I’m actually feeling active dislike for this project and won’t be going to see it at the cinema. The only exception to that would be if Ford bookends it, but I think that’s unlikely given that Han has already met his demise.
this movie simply should not be made
I agree with this now. Ingruber or not. I am not going to watch this crapfest destroy Han Solo for me.
I would rather have a Han Solo video game because with the technology they have avalible now, Harrison could be perfectly recreated.
of course I can’t say strongly enough about how much of a bad idea it is…but, I will watch it like everything else that is related to SW. And then I will complain about how much I hate it.
At least with episode 7, I had high hopes and was then let down. With this I have no hope and only know that they will destroy the Han that we have all come to know and love.
Oh, so you know that for a fact huh?
Impressive, can you tell me how Episode 8 is too?
Hunches aren’t facts, and you have no proof of why this movie will be bad except for your own personal selfish reasons. Just because you and a bunch of internet cynics/pessimists want the movie to suck to prove that you knew all along it was a bad idea, does not mean it will suck.
never said it was a fact. I said it was a bad idea and will most likely ruin all of what we know and like about Han. Some things just don’t need to be touched and IMO, this is one
Yeah, it very well could ruin it, but it could also expand upon and make for an awesome story. Which, IMO is worth the risk.
I think it’s worth having the potential of excellent Star Wars films to be made rather than just scrap any idea that comes along because the internet had a bad hunch and said it was a bad idea.
A lot of the times good movies come from bad ideas, or people who were least expected to make a good movie. Heck, we got Star Wars from a bad idea. FOX didn’t think Lucas’s vision for Star Wars was a good idea but he managed to persuade them to give him a chance and the rest is history.
we really don’t need a movie about a young scamp Han Solo… but apparently it’s happening for real.
that said, all I care about now is who is playing Lando Calrissian in this trainwreck?
Lando might not be in it.
But they can’t possibly do a movie about all new characters – the movie going masses will never accept new and previously unexplored aspects of the Star Wars Galaxy. Everything needs to be familiar. No doubt Boba Fett will be in this thing too, because – why not? – Boba Fett is well-known, too, and Boba Fett has to be present at every event in SW galactic history, because he was popular in 10 minutes of The Empire Strikes Back.
do I sense sarcasm? /s
The problem with casting Lando now is, if they cast the perfect Young Lando ( like Young Mon Mothma ), it will highlight how wrong ( physically ) Ehrenreich is for the part of Han.
If the Young Lando is also too different from Billy Dee Williams, it will mean that much of the audience may have a hard time believing both young Lando & Han are meant to be the same characters we know and love.
After watching Civil War last night and seeing what they were able to do with Robert Downey Jr. digitally, they could probably even turn him into Harrison Ford. Now, I don’t actually think they’ll do that, but I wouldn’t discount the possibility that they could alter his looks to fit the role. I think this movie may surprise us a bit. But it could also be as bad as many fear. We’ll see.
It won’t be as bad as people fear, people fear waaaaay too much.
I get why they do it, it’s a self defense mechanism to protect them from being let down and disappointed, but seriously to ruin a chance to enjoy a possible wonderful film just because they are afraid to be disappointed is ludicrous to me.
Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to insufferable comments on fan websites.
It really does too. Lol
It’s crazy how many people are intent on disliking this movie before we have any information about it. Well they’re entitled to their opinions but it’s incredibly annoying when they accuse those who don’t share their pessimism of…oh I don’t even care about such nonsense. Looking forward to hearing more about this movie! Lord and Miller have built quite a reputation for knocking seemingly impossible projecrs out of the park. 21 Jump Street? The Lego Movie? Both sounded like shit and turned out to be wonderful…
They are making a Han Solo movie without Han Solo no other information needed.
LOL…thats actually perfect
Like I said, it’s fine if you won’t accept another actor in the role. I’m capable of doing so, and I’m guessing the general public is as well, as long as the movie is good. Once the hype for this movie gets going, and once it comes out, though, then if it’s good, the negative voices will simply fade into mildly irritating background noise…
Sole fact that they recast Ford is enough for me to hate this movie. Star wars is not Bond series. They can not recast characters soo close to the OT timeline.
For me, it’s more the point that this actor looks nothing like Ford. They’ve literally just cast a random guy.
They cast a guy who went through a rigorous audition process versus thousands of other actors. That’s not random. Being able to act convincingly is more important than physical resemblance.
But is that guy that won the audition process Harrison Ford?
Harrison Ford is almost 74 freaking years old. Do you want to explain how him playing a 25 year old works?
Do you want to explain why they are making the movie then? He is old Han Solo and he is young Han Solo.
They are making a young Han Solo movie because the general public knows who he is. Rather than explore exciting new aspects of the SW Galaxy, they need to cover familiar ground and characters. It’s a marketing decision. The dumb moviegoing masses respond better to the familiar than something completely new.
The answer is simpler than you think. The explanation is… money. How about waiting till we get a teaser trailer before bashing it. The general audience will accept it, it is just the closed minded people who believe it will never work unless we can go back in time and grab a young Harrison Ford. Then people would hate it because time travel was involved in a Star Wars movie. You just can’t win.
I mean random in terms of physical resemblance. He looks as much like Han as Miles Teller does ( i.e. not at all ).
Yeah, I have no problem with the idea of re-casting Han Solo in and of itself. The task is enormously difficult, but Ehrenreich is a promising choice.
Just watched some interviews with him….ahhhh….errrr…the guys tiny not just short but tiny…mannerisms…looks and sounds nothing like Harrison ….I just can’t see this ever being a good idea…For me he just doesn’t have that movie star presence that Ford has. Ford is hard enough to follow as it is…changing everything about the character presence of Solo just seems like a bad idea.
Wait, how are they changing the character presence of Han Solo?
I mean Hollywood cast Martin Freeman as a younger Bilbo Baggins and it worked out fine, regardless of the film’s quality themselves the problems with those films had nothing to do with Freeman.
To relate even more so to Harrison Ford, they cast River Phoenix as a young Indiana Jones in Indy 3…. was there an issue with that? Did seeing a young Indy being played by somebody other than Ford ruin the character?
Point taken and I agree with you, but with your GoT analogy a better comparison would be if they recast Tyrion. Nobody was emotionally invested in the brief appearances of The Mountain or Dhaario, so it’s not that disruptive to switch up the actors, while its hard to imagine anyone besides Peter Dinklage playing Tyrion.
I was emotionally invested in Daario, and I still prefer the first (Ed Skrein) over the new guy (Michiel Huisman), and with The Mountain I prefer (Thor Bjornsson) over any of the other two previous guys since he actually looks like a mountain of a guy and fits that character well. The point is, I moved on and accepted the change, which everybody else needs to do with Han Solo.
I think character presence isn’t really an issue. For me it’s the following:-
1) Star Wars is one of, if not the, most inconic movie series of all time.
2) Because of (1) actors are very much associated with their roles, especially the “big three”
3) Han is arguably one of the most popular characrters
4) Harrison Ford is a major movie star who is arguably the only person associated with the franchise whose personal success competes with the success of Star Wars, and so his acting tropes are extremely familiar to the audience.
I don’t think the Indy comparison is wise, and I think Spielberg and Frank Marshall are bang on the money when they say nobody else should be Indy. River played a teenage Indy, and as quality television, he Young Indy series was extremely accomplished, but it nonetheless failed. Why? No Ford. Hell, they even brought Ford in for an episode to legitimise it.
I also think the Obi-Wan comparison that everyone makes is equally false. Sir Alec is a supporting character in New Hope and is little more than a cameo player in the rest of the OT. Plus he was that much older than Han when he first appeared. The impact wasn’t the same.
On top of all this, do we really need to see early Han? I used to love the idea of the Jedi and the Clone Wars in my imagination. Wat the prequels gave me in this regard just let me down. I don’t need to see the Kessel Run, a betting game with Lando or the reason why Chewie and Han are best buds.
Okay, I’m going to rebute your points.
1) STAR WARS is the most iconic movie series of all time, definitely in America and probably most of Europe too as well as a lot of the rest of the world. That being said what did you mean by this? That because it’s so popular more people will scrutinize this Han Solo film? Popularity has nothing to do with the final quality of the product. Popularity just means a lot of people like it, that doesn’t mean it will be better or worse because of popularity. The more fans, the more people there are who will watch it, as well as the more people who will like and dislike it. But, there are three ways of looking at it. Lucasfilm can slack off with the quality because they know Star Wars is popular and they don’t have to try as hard with any of the Star Wars films because they know it’s going to make money regardless of the final product quality (Unlikely) or 2) they know it’s popular and therefore they don’t want to lose that popularity by making sure the quality remains high so that they please as much of the target audience as possible making sure fans continue to stay interested and spending money on Star Wars stuff. (More likely) Or some sort of mixture of both. (Most likely)
2) Association with a role is just that, a portrayal of a character that that was popularized by one actor. If a person can’t get past one actor portraying one of their favorite characters and they aren’t even willing to give another guy a chance, that’s their own personal problem. Sure, there will always be comparisons and you can always have your favorites, likes/ dislikes but an actor will not live forever so eventually a character will be recast or remixed into another character that’s very similar. Sean Connery is a lot of people’s favorite James Bond, but then many others prefer Daniel Craig, and some like Pierce Brosnan the most. So, I don’t see how just because one actor made a character popular or is associated with a character how that breaks any chance of letting another guy try out the role. You’ll always have your favorites no matter what.
3) Han is very popular yes.
4) What does Harrison Ford being successful have to do with giving another actor a shot at a character he played?
Indy 3 comparison is very wise, as it’s a very similar situation except for that young Indy was only seen for about 20 minutes versus being in the whole movie. Once again, you’re being selfish with only having one guy play your favorite character.
I’ve never seen the young Indy show so I can’t comment on that. However, I’m positive it didn’t fail because of the sole reason Ford wasn’t in it. I think people are smart enough to know when they are watching a show titled The Young Chronicles of Indiana Jones, you’re most likely not going to see the guy who plays the grizzled older version of the character. It most likely failed because it wasn’t as good as it could have been, or it didn’t reach it’s full potential. The writing was lacking blahdeblahblahh who knows, heck maybe just as simple as people weren’t interested in it to begin with. A whole television show about a young archaeologist is pretty different from one two hour movie establishing an origin.
See, I’d love to see the Kessel Run, or a betting game between a younger Lando and Han on screen. Just goes to show you that there are fans who do want to see this stuff, and the vocal ones who swear that this movie is wrong are not the only ones out there.
Just because you don’t want to see something doesn’t mean everybody doesn’t want to. Remember too, this is just one spinoff film, it’s not the end of the world if it “does” end up being bad. In the end you should appreciate that we are getting new movies at all.
Actually River nailed an adolescent Indy pretty well…But huge difference between a mid teen and 30 something Indy…Now the gap between 20’s and 30’s isn’t nearly as forgiving being now you for the most part are an established adult..And I’d Argue River even at a young age had screen presence…if he acted in a scene you were drawn to his presence…Ford in his prime ,when he comes on screen and your drawn to his presence. Ford has a way of embodying a character it’s easy to forget he’s Ford and believe he’s Solo, Indy, Ryan, Deckard ,Kimble ect…I ramble sorry. I’m sure they’re going try to build a great story ,They have talented people but if this guy doesn’t make people believe he’s Han Solo not believe he’s Harrison Ford but Han Solo as in the presence and essence of Han Solo all the talent behind the movie is for naught. I actually hope I’m wrong but the guy already is much smaller in size ,looks nothing like him and lacks that coolness Harrison Ford had in his presence…If I don’t believe its Han Solo (or the essence of Solo) it’s hard to buy into a Han Solo movie.
I’ve read a lot of star wars good bad or indifferent a bulk of them being Han Solo books and I’ll try and equate it like this . An early set of Solo books were from Tim Daley in the 80’s . For me and other I’ve had this discussion with who’ve read them would say he got the true essence of the character down in his writing ,simply he got who Solo was in the books. They are not literary master pieces but he captured the feel of Han Solo. The other Solo Books I’ve read on his character were always just a little off and its not just story of the books actually none of them are really great but Daley’s books just translate the essence of Han Solo . I’ll still pull out the Daley books and read them every couple years ..any of the other Solo Trilogy books eh there just not Solo enough for me to want to revisit them.
How do you know this guy doesn’t make you believe he’s Han Solo? You already have it ingrained in your head that he’s not going to be able to do it, and you haven’t even seen his portrayal yet? At least give the guy a chance and then once you see the trailers and the movie if he didn’t pull it off then you can go online and comment on how right you were.
Since when does the size of an actor play that big of a part? You might as well pick apart how long his hair is, or how big his feet are. Have you seen any movie with Tom Cruise??? That guy is super short and yet in most of his movies he’s seen as being much taller than he actually is. These are professional filmmakers we are talking about here, height doesn’t make a difference when they want to get the right shot.
But, you are right in that if you don’t buy it, you don’t buy it.
Well Daley has got nothing on Kasdan who basically helped write and shape the character of Han Solo so if anyone knows what the character of Han Solo is like it’s him. A novel is much different than a screenplay. Whoever you think wrote the best Han Solo books has nothing to do with this movie.
I agree Kasdan Knows Solo better than anybody, The book thing was an attempt to relate the buying into someone else version of an established character because they got it right . The physical appearance for me, in my opinion, is just another obstacle to believing he’s Han Solo, it’s just not he’s short he’s small . Small Boned if you will seeing him next to other actors,or Interviewers…he just looks small Not Tom Cruise small Prince Small (ok that’s an exaggeration but small none the less) I Hope I’m Wrong and I’ll eat my words, I swear I’ll admit it if I am . I would just rather not have a Solo Movie if they get it wrong…and for me their casting choice has me not buying into it yet…Who knows it could be Heath Ledger as the Joker thing…As in Wow who’da thunk
There ya go, I think everyone just needs to be cautiously optimistic about this and not jump in expecting the best movie ever, or the worst movie ever.
In a way, it’s a good thing if you have low expectations and think the movie will suck because then the movie usually ends up being better than what you expect.
Ironic, given the widely-known story of Ford’s early encounter with a producer on the subject of “movie stars”.
Wait what? What story is this? You’ve peaked my interest. I don’t believe I’ve heard this widely known story before.
Oh, just the one where Ford, as a day-player, was hauled into the office of a producer (at Paramount, I think…) who told him he was never going to make it, because he lacked the charisma of a movie star, citing Carry Grant’s and saying that even playing a grocery clerk, ‘you could tell THAT was a movie star!’. Ford apparently got himself thrown out of the office for retorting that instead of a movie star, he thought you were supposed to look at him and think “THAT is a grocery clerk”. The irony of saying this kid can’t step into Ford’s shoes because he doesn’t have the air of a movie star was just amusing.
Actually it was Tony Curtis…And It wasn’t about Ford being a movie star it was about embodying a character so well that you forget its Ford , That takes screen presence that I’m not sure this kid has …I want to believe it’s Han Solo not just he isn’t Harrison Ford..Its more he doesn’t project he presence of Han Solo
I actually originally heard Gary Cooper, second guessed myself and did a quick google which returned Grant, which didn’t sound right, but there it is on the internet, so it must be true, but I’ve read a think three different names associated with this story. The real point being simply that “For me he just doesn’t have that movie star presence that Ford has.” made me think of this story. I absolutely agree with you about needing to convey the same attitude and presence, and I continue to think this film is a massive mistake.
http://teamcoco.com/video/harrison-ford-was-told-he-d-never-be-a-star Found him saying it.. I’m with you bout this maybe not being a real good idea.
Well, we know it will be better than Episode 1 and 2 but that’s not saying much is it.
I don’t understand why so many people don’t want this movie but wouldn’t mind an Obi-Wan trilogy, you’re getting more of the character Han Solo with this movie. Just because it’s popular to dislike it doesn’t mean you should. Does anybody have any reason to hate this movie besides because it’s a bad idea? Or, because we don’t need an origin film?
Those aren’t legitimate reasons to dislike something before you know anything about it.
Awful, just awful. I hate this movie already. This is far worst than anything ever created for star wars.
You hated it when it was first announced, and it’s a prequel so you should be excited. 🙂
No idiot CGi sidekicks in this one, and the script is being written by a man who can actually write scripts.
Correction, a man who could write thirty years ago when paired with two of the best movie storytellers of the last century in their prime.
I will take TFA’s script over any one of George’s prequel “screenplays.”
I was not aware that my only options were George Lucas’s scripting or Larry “Dreamcatcher” Kasdan. Thanks for clearing that up. Is that the false dichotomy of choices you’re going to justify Kasdan’s shit contribution to Crystal Skull with too?
I never said they were your only options. See, the original comment was a reference to the prequels, which were written by George Lucas. Han Solo is being written by Kasdan, who has a much better reputation as a screenwriter, so that’s the comparison being made here. And Larry Kasdan didn’t write Crystal Skull, David Koepp did.
And his script for TFA was fine. It worked. People thought it finally made the characters seem like actual humans again. It was funny and it felt like genuine Star Wars. I have no idea why you think the film “collapsed” in the second half.
Koepp has said he went to Kasdan for help writing Marion and Indy. All that good stuff? That awkward introduction in the camp? Kasdan. Literally the WORST of the dialogue in the whole film. And you still haven’t demonstrated what was Arndt, what was Abrams, and what was Kasdan in TFA.
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There is simply no denying that there is a dramatic shift in the film after the attack on Maz’s – it’s like two films grafted together at that point, with the far superior first half desperately trying to reject the donor second half. All of the problems with the storytelling occur from that point on.
Getting “help” could mean any number of things. It in no way means Kasdan wrote the actual dialogue. It was Koepp’s script. He was responsible for what became the final draft.
Arndt’s script never fully materialized because he was taking so long to get anything done. So Kasdan and Abrams took it over and wrote it together – meaning they took some of the earlier Arndt ideas and made a completely new script. There is no half and half. It was something they collaborated on together, not a division of some people writing individual sections.
Most movies and stories have more fun and lighthearted first halves, and more serious stuff happens late in the movie as the conflict intensifies. That’s basic storytelling 101. There was nothing wrong about the second half and it and it had a completely satisfying and dramatic ending, leaving everyone wanting to see the next one.
If the past has taught us anything it’s that Star Wars prequels fail. I will never deliberately watch a Star Wars prequel movie again. They sucked.. and if you want to say, “Then you are not a true fan!” or “They were great!”, then you truly are living in a fantasy world.
Are you seriously a dumb dumb??? The prequels didn’t fail, they were huge financial successes, they only failed in living up to the hype and there are still plenty of Star Wars fans who enjoy them.
It really comes down to people agreeing that the original movies are better overall than the prequels, that’s it, that doesn’t mean people can’t enjoy them.
But I’ll bet you’ll be first in line to see Rogue One…. oh, wait that’s a prequel. Don’t kid yourself Pooch, you’re going to go see these movies.
Resorting to name calling now? Wow. I’m seriously done with you now…
Oh so dumb dumb is where you draw the line…
I’m not done with you, I love you.
Oh I will see Rogue One. No doubt. It has original characters and doesn’t touch the main 3. If it sucks, at least I won’t feel so bad that they haven’t destroyed a big 3.
You’re okay with Vader being in it though, and possibly Tarkin?
And the image of Vader and Tarkin getting tarnished is okay???
They already raped Vader with “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!” at the end of Sith. They can do no more harm to him…
I guess when you’re at your lowest, you can only go up from there.
Thanks for admitting this… It makes my day.
I always did admit that, you just never saw it.
My comment was sort of inside joke because Lora always bags on any news related to the new movies, but she/he really loves the prequels and posted like 15 images defending them.
I’ve been an avid fan of this site since before they even used DISQUS, which really made a huge difference. I check it almost once every day so I’m aware of the many commenters who post crap on these posts.
Very proud of you.
LOL at people who dismiss movies before knowing or seeing anything of it.
Agreed. They should at least give it a chance.
Masters of Teras Kasi
Yoda Stories
Bombad Racing
Detours
Jar Jar tongue candy
.
It could be worse.
Am I literally the only person who liked Masters of Teras Kasi? Was it the greatest fighting game ever made? No… But it didn’t need to be. I found it enjoyable enough.
So YOU’RE the one!
Didn’t even get into the Holiday Special.
Hmph.
Excellent choice, Alden will knock it out of the park.
I’m kind of feeling the same way and I don’t even know this actor.
It’s also because so many people want to dislike this movie and it didn’t matter who they chose to be young Solo. People were going to be upset with it anyway.
So, when this movie comes out and it ends up being good and better than anyone else expected I will laugh in everyone’s faces for being such bigots. Hey, that’s the internet for you though.
No, he won’t. He is a horrible choice and this movie will fail horribly. Why? Because only the hardcore fans will support this movie, not the general public… and the general public could give a rats ass about Han Solo.
You’re just a pessimist. Get out of that gutter before it consumes you. You have no proof it will be doom and gloom.
The general public will still enjoy this movie, if not more so than the hardcore fans, because the hardcore fans are too busy trying to boycott it. Even though we all know they are going to go see it anyway.
When the general public can’t relate to the actor playing Han Solo, it will fail. They will say something like, “I think that is a new Star Wars movie…” I hope they release it around the same time as a new Avatar film and it gets it’s butt kicked horribly in reviews.
Is the internet the general public now? Oh wow, I had no idea.
Again, do you have proof this general public won’t be able to relate to Alden playing Han Solo any more than River Phoenix playing young Indy in Indy 3, or Ewan Mcgregor playing young Obi-Wan?
I’m just saying the general won’t care about a Han Solo movie. By the time the film comes out, Star Wars will have been over saturated and people will be like… Oh, just another Star Wars movie. Or even worse, it will suffer the same fate as Star Trek Darkness did.
And I’m just saying How do you know they won’t care about a Han Solo movie? Do you have access to a research team that polls the world whether they’d like to see a Han Solo movie or not?
By the time this movie comes out we’ll have had three new Star Wars films since 2015. Whereas Marvel is still going strong with basically a Marvel movie a year since 2008.
I bet you are waiting for them to reboot the Godfather trilogy as well…
Hey, I’d at least give it a chance.
Proof nothing is sacred for you… Wow.
Well, I’m not a bigot so there’s that.
They are just movies, if a studio wants to try and reboot them to try and make money then let them try, but it’s up to the market to decide if they are successful or not.
I didn’t know the Godfather was sacred. I thought it was just a trilogy about a fictional mafia family.
They’re still doing this, huh.
http://images-cdn.moviepilot.com/images/c_scale,h_960,w_648/t_mp_quality/zaveu82rllwviehusy3z/could-an-obi-wan-kenobi-spin-off-movie-look-like-this-521947.jpg
I have an idea for a prequel movie people actually want to see.
I prefer the Han Solo movie. Star Wars needs more stories with smugglers and bounty hunters, and less with Jedi. Although I do love Obi-Wan, the whole Jedi thing from the prequel trilogy has turned me of to having too much more of them.
Well said. Can’t wait to see the trinity of Han, Chewie, and the Falcon in one more adventure.
Definitely like the idea of non-Jedi focused stories, but I’m not convinced we need to see young Han Solo. Kyle Katarn (pre- “I found a lightsaber in my garage, that makes me a Jedi!”) in a Bourne-esque or Die Hard-like SW stand alone? Yes please.
Yeah, I have to agree. Han Solo, or a young one, does not excite me the most. We don’t really need it.
Both would be awesome.
I’m curious though, why you think a movie about hermit Kenobi stuck out in his hermit hut being a guardian angel to Luke while he grows up to the ripe age of 19 would be any better than seeing a younger Han Solo perform the Kessel Run with the Falcon, or gamble against Lando, or meet and save Chewier’s life, or smuggle crap that goes wrong, or get into fights with space pirates?
Well, for one thing, there would appear to be less fan-service pitfalls to run into with Kenobi. You KNOW they’re going to try and jam everything into this Han Solo movie – Kessel Run, winning the Falcon, meeting Lando, life-debt…
I don’t believe that to be so. That would have to be more of a biopic, but I do think the Kessel Run will be in there somewhere.
I will be (pleasantly) surprised if they don’t, but I have a feeling they won’t be able to resist. I mean, if you’re making a movie about young Han Solo, the point is to answer questions people supposedly have about him. Also, wiser, better, totally unobtainable woman who makes Han into the cool character we know and love with her death. Because Disney loves them some Princess money.
I agree with you, we’ll have to wait and see. Is this you starting to come a little around to this movie?
Oh god no, no…no, no no no. I am dead set against this thing. I will be surprised is all, and not in a “sudden, surprise sodomy in a dark alley” kind of way – pleasantly.
I believe you will be “pleasantly” surprised at how “good” this movie will end up being.
They have the movie in some very good hands. Lord and Miller are very capable directors and they do action comedy extremely well. Basically, they’ve turned shit into gold.
A bunch of the best Marvel movies have been from directors and ideas that they originally thought to be a bad idea.
I have a link to an article that helps support this train of thought, I can’t seem to find it right now, but basically it goes through each of the most popular and highest rated Marvel movies and shows you what the directors who were responsible for the movies did before. Most of them had little to no success before doing the movies and those were the ones that were a gamble and paid off the most.
The Marvel films have been largely forgettable to awful though, so there is that.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH.
No.
Name me a great Marvel movie, go on, I’ll wait. Avengers was pointless “Hulk could totally beat up Iron Man! Nuh-uh! Uh-HUH!” sandbox bullshit in search of a plot, Thor was attrocious. Captain America (the first one) was pretty good. AntMan rocked, as did GoG. Thor 2 sucked festering assholes. Avengers 2 was so, so boring. IM 1 was fun, 2 was terrible, and 3 was unwatchable.
Iron Man
Avengers
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy
Captain America: Civil War
You may not agree, but nearly everyone else does. So the general consensus is that the above films are “great”, as in 90% or above on Rotten Tomatoes, save for TWS.
The only issue I see with the Marvel films is that they come across as a little too formulaic.
I just think that those films attract the same audience as the Star Wars films, so in that way they are similar.
Making a prequel movie or sequel for that matter is the definition of fan service. You’re making a movie for the fans to watch because the first one was popular, whether you think it’s a good idea or not is basically irrelevant to the success or failure of the movie. The entire world could say they don’t want to watch a Han Solo spinoff film, and if they made one anyway and it sold well and they made profit what good did saying nobody wanted the movie do?
On the contrary, the entire world could say they’d wwant to watch a Han Solo spinoff movie, but if the movie ended up not selling well, then what good did it do?
Saying what fans want has no correlation with how well a movie succeeds or fails.
Also, we don’t know if they are going to try and jam everything down our throats because we have absolutely no idea what this movie is about besides it having Han Solo, Chewbacca, and probably the Falcon.
Yeah, Im sure Disney is banking millions of dollars on just “fan service”… LMAO
Well TFA was a “fan service” movie… LMAO and it made 2 billion LMAO
TPM was a fan service movie and it made 1.02 billion LMAO
That was making movie off the name, not the film.
Yeah. You like movies and feel as though 51% is a good review? Ok, go home now… We are done here.
I do not think TPM is a good movie, I think that you are just hellbent on destroying anyone who happens to like them, and that’s not okay. I am not defending the prequels themselves, I am defending the people/kids/ teens/ adults who happen to like them but can’t because of people like you who won’t let them. Who are you to decide what people can like or not like?
Did Star Wars fans worldwide make you the ultimate decider on who is a true/hardcore Star Wars fan? No, then quit acting like it.
You can’t seem to understand my logic, so I guess we are really done here. I don’t know how to spell it out for you more clearly, that this movie is a prequel yes. But being a prequel does not mean it will be a failure, Rogue One is a prequel too and it looks like it will be awesome.
You and half this website have already made it up in your heads to hate this movie, and that’s your own personal problem. It’s not healthy to hate something before you’ve even seen a glimpse of it though.
The prequels go down as Lucas’ greatest failure… We still have yet to see if Disney will trump that.
They won’t, Disney has nearly infinite resources to make sure of that.
Wow, is that statement ever delusional… “Infinite resources” to account to failures. Look at Trump. He will fail also.
Failures that still brought in over a billion unadjusted dollars in business. Lord let me have a ‘greatest failure’ like that some day.
“Titanic, Avatar.. those were great movies that deserved the money and place amongst the greatest movies of all time.”
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Jesus, I just threw up a little in my mouth. Here, let me help you – YOUR OPINION IS WRONG.
Sorry. Majority rules when it comes to ratings. I do not care for Titanic at all, but it was a great film according to the masses.
So when Young Han Solo comes out and gets a positive response, will you immediately shut up and accept that it’s a good movie? Of course not, because that goes against your need to complain.
The majority does NOT rule when it comes to whether something was “great”. Majority rule matters when determining if something was POPULAR. Who revisits Titanic today? Betcha it’s less people than revisit Casablanca. It’s CERTAINLY less people than revisit Wizard of Oz – those movies are ‘great’. Titanic was popular when it came out, but two decades later and it’s basically a box office number footnote. Avatar is fading equally fast.
What do you mean “fading”? Avatar’s been irrelevant for years!
Thank you. Pocahontas in Space deserves nothing other than a VFX Oscar.
Yeah, I don’t think you understand the term ‘fan service’. Making TFA? Fiscal move by Disney. “Make the Kessel run in 14 parsecs! TWELVE!” Fan service.
It was a joke, and if a sequel calls back to an older movie, is that automatically considered bad/fan service? Especially a movie done 30 years later.
A “joke”? Really?
“…It was a pun.
C: (pause) A PUN?!?
O: No, no…not a pun…What’s that thing that spells the same backwards as forwards?
C: (Long pause) A palindrome…?
O: Yeah, that’s it!
C: It’s not a palindrome! The palindrome of “Bolton” would be “Notlob”!! It don’t work!!”.
Setting the movie in the same galaxy, with events that continue to involve some of the same characters still isn’t fan service. Fan service is specifically those things which have no other purpose but to make make fans go “I REMEMBER THAT THING!” without any other story purpose. Again, the Falcon being present, it has a story purpose (it gets Han and Chewie involved, which puts our heroes on the path to finding Luke, which, presumably, will kick off the real struggle against the agents of evil). The remote still being in the Falcon? Fan service.
So you’re telling me if something that is a nod back to the previous movie for literally less than two seconds of screen time, if you blink you’ll miss that remote scene, then the movie is ruined for you? I’m sorry.
I think it’s perfectly acceptable to have a few scenes in a movie as popular as Star Wars that call back to the previous films. There was no moment while I was watching the movie where I thought, oh… that was stupid.
There were only like five nods back to the previous films that could have been considered fan servicey by your definition, if I wanted to by cynical. Heck the entire film is fan service if you consider the story elements are a mix mash of the three originals.
1) The remote
2) The Dejarik board
3) 12 Parsecs moment
4) Trash Compactor joke
5) C-3P0
You have a very limited imagination
How so? I could argue that I have more of an imagination than you, and half the people on this website.
Delusional is one thing… Imagination is another…
Being delusional requires imagination.
Again, thanks for proving my point…
Joking.
alrighy guys, as much as many of us here aren’t interested in this idea, it’s still going to happen.. let’s just try and be positive and see what happens. (trust me i’m so back and forth about this idea but at this point i’m going to remain optimistic) but seriously where’s that kenobi movie at????
Shoe-based idiom overload!
It’s Star Wars, it’s Disney. It’s in good hands. I’m sure everyone who is able to look past the fact that it’s a film about a young Han Solo and not a young Harrison Ford will be pleasantly surprised and entertained. Sit back and enjoy it! Personally I can’t wait to see this old pirate in his heyday of smuggling.
So agree. Seeing that recent DL-44 photo, and now having the lead all but officially confirmed by Disney has totally whet my appetite for this one.
That DL-44 scope mount looks wonky – like the TFA prop rather than either of the ANH props. Bah.
Too bad that “everyone who is able to look past the fact that it’s a film about a young Han Solo and not a young Harrison Ford” apparently only equals about 10 or so people. =c
Or an entire generation of young fans that will likely want to see it anyway.
Agree!
Awsome! Let’s get on to principle photography!!!!
There’s another little movie filming at Pinewood now…
Or, just on principle, could we not photograph anything? That’s kinda the same, right?
Maybe he’ll go southern with Han too.
Third times a charm 😉
http://youtu.be/ltfI3B45_Qw
Wow.. Worse than I originally thought. Some of you are ok with this guy playing Han Solo? Bwahahaha! His voice sounds like he hasn’t even hit puberty yet!
We should boycot answering you. Your comments are blatantly wrapped all around this page stating the same. Despite what you say, you will be Day One in thearter for this movie
Bwahahahaha! Um, no. Nice try. Never going to happen. I have had my fair share of bad Star Wars movies. Enjoy it though!
Not sure what people are talking about with the “no resemblance” thing. He does kinda look like Han Solo. Let’s see what makeup/CGI touchup can do…
So our main character will need digital makeup throughout the film? Well that shouldn’t be distracting at all.
They did it in Looper. They did it with Benjamin Button.
I prefer it when they don’t but CGI has been used for worse things in the past.
There is no need for makeup/CGI, his ability to act supported by a good script should carry the movie.
Agreed. Just saying that even the resemblance thing can be overcome if it’s a hangup for people.
If the movie is any good, which I hope it is, I think people will accept him playing Han Solo once they start watching it.
Plus Lucasfilm is apparently afraid of CGI now.
Don’t buy the CGI/practical effects argument. The OT used matte paintings in place of CGI technology that did as yet not exist. Then Lucas went overboard with CGI in the prequels. Disney are striving to strike the right balance between the two.
Yes! Thank you for being one of few sane individuals to say something intelligent. And I agree with you Robb, it’s
more, quite a few others on this blog I disagree with. I’m with you that a little hair work and maybe some makeup will do an actor just fine, as for the CGI, I don’t think they’ll go their but… Kenny Ritchie hit the nail on the head. THEY WON’T NEED TO!!! Actors act. They embody the character they are portraying. And if they are good, they transform into that character, or for that matter, historical figure, and become them, so well, that the audience forgets they are watching an actor.
Everyone, relax and step away from the fricken edge, already.
Perhaps a more productive exercise would be to think about historical figures who were transformed by actors so well that the audience felt as if they had time traveled and were watching that historical figure.
Here’s a link for ya all to check out:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/candacelowry/incredible-photos of-actors-vs-the-historical-figures the?utm_term=.rb5QP5B5j6#.ql858kykeN
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
So, it’s official on the casting then? They picked this ridiculous choice?
Ok, then it’s official that I am not watching this movie. I don’t even care about the reviews or anything. I refuse to let this choice ruin my image of Han Solo. Screw Disney and this acting choice… Nice job idiots. *golf claps*
You must be fun at parties.
When they order pepperoni pizza from Mountain Mike’s but it’s not from Roundtable so you’re not eating any. Those darn idiots 🙂
Actually, that crap is pure carbs and will make you fat and slow, so I naturally avoid it.
As far as being fun at parties is concerned, I’m a total laugh riot…
“…my mom says.”
Brah, I bet you don’t even lift.
Yeah, you’re real fun if you can’t even enjoy one slice of pizza, point proven.
The only ones laughing are the ones laughing at you, for being pompous.
Ummmm, yeah…
You must be fun at parties too. When they tell you “we’re watching Star Wars” and then you find out it’s “Attack of the Clones.”
I’ll watch it but it’s not my favorite.
Nobody would expect nothing less from you…
Why? Because I like Star Wars movies, and movies in general…..???
Don’t quit your day job when it comes to joking, making comebacks, or even trying to be sly.
I’ve had a lot of practice, and certain people have expectations of me now. 😉
The prequels sucked. Plain and simple. Need proof? Phantom Menace on Rotten Tomatoes gets a 56%, Metacrtic gives it 51%. So if you truly like movies, you will agree that was a huge FAIL of a film. Otherwise you are not with the masses on this review and are proof positive that this film will fail as well because your fandom has blinded you. Public majority makes or breaks a film… not fan boys.
You are jumping to the wrong conclusions there turbo.
Did I ever say I thought the prequels were masterpieces? No.
When you say fail do you mean quality, boxoffice, what you thought of it? There are many ways to say something failed.
It doesn’t matter what you think of something if someone else loves it, that person doesn’t care that half the world hates it they still find enjoyment out of it. Making fun of them isn’t going to make you feel better either unless you’re a complete and utter jerk.
Do you make fun of people for liking Scooby Doo, Pokemon, anime shows, Marvel, Transformers, or even Pixar movies?
No… you don’t because it doesn’t matter how much you might dislike those movies or shows, other people are still going to watch them and enjoy them.
You can order your Roundtable pizza and watch those bad boys till your hearts content. I could care less what you think about the prequels, because its obvious you are wrong. Enjoy your Jar Jar Binks bed sheet set and coffee mug. Knock your self out with that…
I know this movie will fail horribly and put Star Wars back into a decline. Once that happens, Disney will back off the franchise and let it go for a few years I’m sure. Pirates of the Caribbean is a great example of a franchise milked to death.
You need to check your eyes, and read some more. Your reading comprehension skills are lacking, maybe if I type in capital letters you can read it better.
IT DOESN”T MATTER WHAT YOU OR I THINK OF THE PREQUELS IF PEOPLE STILL ENJOY THEM. YOU ARE MAKING IT SEEM LIKE YOU ARE A BETTER STAR WARS FAN BECAUSE YOU DON”T LIKE THE PREQUELS, YOU ARE ALSO CLAIMING THINGS THAT ARE NOT TRUE…..THIS MOVIE WILL NOT FAIL, EXCEPT FOR IN YOUR OWN LITTLE MIND.
Sorry to aggravate you to the point of using the caps lock like that… I seriously didn’t mean to jar jar you that badly…
Oh I’m not angry, I just did that so you can read it more easily. Like I said your reading comprehension needs work.
Oh I see, then let me do the same…
YOUR OPINION IS WRONG.
Well it’s my opinion and it’s just as wrong or right as yours.
Pizza is on its way right now, and I’m going to watch TFA.
Oh yeah, making wise cracks is your ONLY comeback. Shows your true nature here. Well done.
I think it’s time for you to go to bed.
You’re a true fans fan then. Good for you. Self proclaiming comedian. I bet that gets you far in life.
lmao, now that is a tragic moment in party history.
Man, I loved that comment. Can I steal it for other comment boards?
Permission granted.
Oy…
oogie oogie oogie!
It’s too bad that this movie is gonna bomb at the box office, I was really looking forward to it and this casting choice isn’t terrible. Oh well.
It’ll be fine at the BO – no worse than any of the Marvel ‘phase’ movies.
It might be good, it might be bad, either way I very much doubt it will bomb.
If the Prequels didn’t bomb, then a movie about arguable the most famous character in all of Star Wars certainly won’t. You may not like the film, but saying that it ill bomb just makes you sound like an idiot.
I just finished “Hail Caesar!”
And between Cohen brothers, Brolin, Clooney, Fiennes, Johansson, Swinton,… He really stole the entire show. The film its not the best of Cohen (although its good in some aspects) but Alden scenes are pure gold.
First of all i was like “bah, a Young Han Solo movie”.
But i have to admit, as being a Star Wars movie, i’m expecting something good about it.
And Alden really can act. C’mon! He is a good actor. Judging his performance in this movie. Yes, i have seen it only in one movie, but only a few actors can show something special in one movie. And Alden does.
Let’s see what happens.
Will he get to shoot first should be our main concern.
Everyone praising his acting, c’mon, we KNOW Star Wars is not about great drama acting, those that defend this choice based on the acting chops of this guy are the ones that do not wanna face their fears. Admit it, we are ALL fearing what they’ll do with this. Choosing someone that at least resembled Ford was a must, now that is gone, so let’s hope we at least get decent story and and good directing…
I agree that Episodes I-VI are not models of excellent acting, but I thought the acting in VII was very good. It has been one of my big hopes that under Disney, Lucasfilm will put a bigger emphasis on good acting and the directing to make the most of it. From the one film we have seen thus far, it looks like they are. I hope this continues in future Star Wars films. That said, I have no idea who Alden is and have never seen him in a movie, so I cannot comment on his acting skills.
The acting level in Star Wars films is typically as good as the director of that film. Irvin Kershner was the best Star Wars director to date, and he drew the best performances out of his actors.
Only because so far all we’ve really got is Kersh, JJ, and a whoooooole lotta Lucas. Kersh, a director who understands actors, JJ, a director who knows how to get entertaining performances from an ensemble, and Lucas who…well, he’s a phenomenal editor, right? Who apparently hates directing and can’t seem to get that part of the process over with fast enough, and doens’t really get the need for actors to work with the material and find the best way through.
Yes and we know Irvin had amazing critically acclaimed films before and after ESB, ohh wait.
After bad acting in PT and naturality in OT, i think we can be thankful to have good acting skills in the new SW movies.
And Alden i think is good in acting and at the same time has hilarious and charismatic expressions and movements.
When he is running to his white horse down the hill in Hail Caesar i definetly saw Harrison’s running. Hilarious.
Yeah, what was with all those shit actors like Liam Neeson, Ewan McGreggor, Ian McDiarmid, and Terrence Stamp? Finally, we’ll have “good acting skills in the new SW movies” and that will make this whole thing a good idea.
I didn’t give names. But if you like.
McGregor, Neeson, Stamp (very shortly), Smits, Morrison,… Yeah, good actors, no doubt, and they were really good, best parts of course. Love it all of them in SW.
But the other important ones, Hayden, Ian, Samuel, August,… (Not mentioning minor roles, or cgi ones), they were really really bad, with embarrassing moments.
For me Ian and Samuel, were a joke, and yes, it’s my opinion. A big name doesn’t mean good actor or good performance (for ex. I love Samuel in the last Tarantino, where he has to be, but in SW he gave us the worst character in the Saga).
God, even seing PT now, i think Portman is bad in some scenes.
So yes, judging TFA, Rogue One cast and Alden acting in his last movie, i,m thankful to see people who can act, just a little.
I understand for lots of people this project is a bad idea, but i will try to enjoy it the best i could. And Alden i think it’s a good choice. If he is not, i will judge after the film, not now.
Saying Ian is a joke is f’ing heresy.
Ian went way, way too far in Sith. Truth to power dude. Hambone to the max.
I don’t think any of us is qualified to tell him how he should act.
Why not? He took Sidious to a very, very hammy place in Sith. I’m saying it was not a great acting choice – that’s what critics do.
He was subdued and mellow for the first two films and half the 3rd it was time for him to unleashed the madness and power. I trust him being a Shakespearean actor to know more about it than we do.
So Ian is above criticism then? we should just trust everything he does and think it’s great? I thought the latter part of Sith was laughable pantomime.
He just destroyed the whole Jedi organization on his own. Well deserved the right to exulting and making fun of Yoda, no ? In all seriousness, i admit Yoda/Sidious final scene was a top kek moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv666PtpD_M
actually better than the movie 😀
Well, you destroyed my movie…
i lol’d so hard. Nice video
A really important scene and it looked so ridiculous. The acting, the cinematography, the make up (with the Guy Pierce one in Prometheus, the worst i have seen in years) Omg. A really big shame
Just explain to me how you are more qualified than Ian in acting.
It would be nice if you answered my question rather than just posing another of your own. So I will do the same.
I see that you took Pauline Kael’s opinion on the acting in the OT as gospel. Just explain to me how a critic was more qualified in acting than the actors in Star Wars that we should take her opinion as fact… but I am NOT entitled to my opinion.
Have you never had an opinion of your own on anything? Or do you just blindly and unquestioningly take the word of anyone more “qualified” than yourself? Have you never criticised anything? I find that difficult to believe.
So…… Do you think it is impossible for a great actor to give a bad performance? because history is littered with them. People of far greater standing than Ian McDiarmid too. but that is just my unqualified opinion of course 😉 oh and my blind acceptance of the wisdom of critics saying that those performances were bad 🙂
Because I’m not a negative person. I more of I like most everything, just like some things less.
Because I am not a negative person. I like most things, just like others less. When I don’t care as much for something I typically keep my mouth shut because I feel I am not qualified enough to give an informed opinion. This is subjective, NOT objective. It’s not science here.
If it’s subjective and not science you have no need to ask me to qualify my opinion 😉
If you genuinely find enjoyment in most things then i truly envy you! 🙂
So, you are incapable of judging any performance because you’re not an actor? Wait wait, I’ve got one for you – “Who are you to judge the prequels – George Lucas is a professional film maker, therefore you are unqualified to judge his work.”
They were how he wanted them to be. Like he said, some people think a house should be painted green, but he wanted it white. He continued. Nothing wrong with it being white, & maybe it should be green, but I wanted it white.
What in hell does that even mean? Are you…are you talking about Leprechaun porn? Your position seems to be “How can anyone judge unless they hold superior skills in (fill in the blank)!?”. That’s horseshit – I don’t need to be a master thespian to recognize poor acting choices when I see them (Ian, I know you got paid a SHIT ton to let loose, but come on, you know that was some hammy stuff right there). I don’t need to be a master carpenter to recognize something built out of square. I don’t need to be a film maker to recognize when something does not succeed as a motion picture.
What does hammy mean to you?
ham·my
ˈhamē/Submit
adjective
informal
(of acting or an actor) exaggerated or overly theatrical.
“there is some hammy acting”
“Ian, that was too hammy when you played the The Emperor in ROTS.” Ian:”It’s what George wanted.”
One of the most revered critics Pauline Kael said the the acting was bad in the first Star Wars.
You completely missed your own point in that case. There WERE some very talented actors in the PT, it didn’t mean SHIT for the final product though because the scripts were horrible, and direction was lacking to non-existent. Even the actors you cite as coming off badly – all at least solid actors, yes, including Hayden. Made little to no impact on the final films.
I know what you mean. English is not my language and i always try to explain my opinions the best i can.
Despite bad dialogs and horrible scripts i think those actors were really bad, specially samuel and ian.
Samuel is good in talks and great dialogs but his acting expressions i think are limited. He was in SW because he praid for it and it was a bad decision. Through the movies we can see he is not comfortable in that role, at least is what i see.
At least in e3 Hayden tries hard to change something but in Alden i see more than that.
But yes, i agree. The scripts and direction didn’t help at all
Nope. I’m out… *drops the mic and walks off the stage*
The comment section of this site (in many of the articles) is one of the worst I’ve seen, a cesspool of negativity. Almost everytime I come on here, this is the level that the ranting goes up to:
I agree.
Lol, you have to visit IMDB…
Nah, that’s not a dedicated SW fan site. Couldn’t care less what pseudo-fans and casuals think about this movie.
There are a lot of knowledgeable folks there too, don’t be so quick to dismiss it, the point is, you have to grow a thick skin in the Internet, that’s for sure
It’s not a matter of thick skin, it’s a matter if my time will be well-spent on a site that has people chiming in that quite frankly, don’t really matter to me if most are casuals.
What’s a casual fan – one that probably isn’t well-versed in SW lore like hardcore are – going to tell me that I already don’t know? And quite frankly, it doesn’t matter to me if a casual likes or dislikes something that I like (they’re causal, they just hop on one trend to another depending if something is “in fashion” or not); so no, doesn’t matter to me what they think. The true fans (the ones whose opinions have more weight (well, maybe not all but you get my point)) come and discuss SW topics on a dedicated SW fan site, that’s all I’m going to say. Lastly, casuals don’t make or break the franchise, fans are the ones that have given it a solid foundation.
That said, IMDB is alright if one wants to see how people are rating a movie based on their level of “like”, as well as to find out other tidbits like awards and whatnot, but usually not great when it comes to forums.
Casual fans are hardcore fans in-waiting.
But hardcore fans like yourself that seem to dole out standards and definitions of what a hardcore ‘fan’ should or shouldn’t be, don’t exactly make this fandom appealing to others. This isn’t a prick-fraternity. This is a group of passionate fans that advocate the many reasons to like SW, whether or not we all agree those reasons or which reasons are more valid than others is what this is really about. Its not about being exclusive.
You can’t trust the imdb forum boards but the rating itself is pretty accurate. The best is Metacritic though which takes an average of multiple sites and ratings. The problem with that though, is that it’s just an average and we know there are outliers.
Leslie, should care what casual fans think about this movie, because some of the hardcore ones already hate it, and the casual fans/audiences are the ones which drive the most profit.
Fans are fans. Hardcore or not. Alienate either side and fandom fails.
Why don’t you just report them like you always do to whatever comment you find unpleasant or disagree with?
What makes you think I didn’t? 😉
That’s the point, MARSHA; we know. We just don’t CARE.
Well then, carry on 😉
Leslie, you are negative about TFA or any of it’s sequels. So you contribute to it. I try to keep positive about about everything.
In most cases I disagree, but the attack on the Han Solo film has made me think that exact thing recently…
And you’re contributing.
I said a long time ago that they should not may a Han Solo movie. That was Harrison’s character and he just can’t be replaced.
I would have accepted it if solo was far younger. Being a different actor so close to Ford’s age in episode 4 doesn’t make sense.
He’s like 8 years younger than when Ford shot ANH, but he’ll be 7 years younger by the time they shoot. Not that actors age must exactly match character’s age. He could be like 22 in the movie.
The character of Han Solo was around 29/30 in A New Hope, and Harrison was 33. Alden is 26 I believe, but they’ll probably say Han is in his mid to early 20s in this movie.
Heck, Felicity Jones is like 30 but just from the Rogue One teaser she looks like she’s a teenager.
Actually in the new CANON, Han Solo no longer has his age established. Ford was 34 when he shot ANH. So they may make him that age or like 32, as long as Alden can pass to most people as 22 or 23 it will still be nearly 10 years before ANH Han.
Yeah I agree, I just assumed that Han’s age hadn’t really changed that much. I can see him being early 30s in A New Hope more than his EU 29 age. Either way, it doesn’t make that much of a difference.
NO
CHANCE
This movie should not be made. They should make a Obi Wan movie instead.
You realize that there’s the chance of more Star Wars movies?
I’m sure he’ll be fine.
I mean, all he has to do is step into the shoes of the world’s last true matinee hero, in a role that has since defined an entire category of characters. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!
Could be worse. They could create a cgi character with long ears and a silly accent..
See, when your best defense of this nightmare in waiting is the worst of the prequel nonsense, I have to think you’re mostly trying to convince yourself.
I don’t think that’s it. I think that no matter who is selected, people will have a bad opinion on them.
That’s #truth
I think that should tell you something right there.
I’m sure he will fail.
Christ, I just realized – he looks less like a human being and more like someone played some…horrible…Photoshop filter games on a picture of Seth McFarland. And then beat the result like a redheaded stepchild. He had better turn in a PHENOMENALLY good performance is what I’m saying here.
He almost looks older than Han looked in a New Hope lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdrT60CR0Lw
I can definitely see him being a young Han Solo, the only thing he really needs to work on is deepening his voice a bit. Compared to this, although he will be playing a younger version so he doesn’t have to have as deep of a voice considering your voice usually deepens over time.
(Depends on your sex, and other factors. Women’s voices generally do not change in pitch, although they do change in tone as they mature. Men’s voices start to change at puberty and continue to do so as they get older. The reason for this is as men get older their vocal chords increase in mass, causing a drop in pitch (which is caused by the physical qualities of singing which I won’t get into). This increase in mass is greatest during middle school and high school, but continues to a certain degree throughout life. This is also why very old men tend to have more “gravely” voices as they get older.
Other factors that could cause drop in pitch includes vocal chord damage, smoking, and individual genes.
Source(s):
Singer, male, some experience with the physics of musical acoustics/properties.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ij1vGWs73k
He seems like a nice guy who is a very talented actor who will probably be A list someday and I am sure will give it 100 percent but without CG, makeup, and other trickery he looks like Ford as much as Denzel Washington does. At least MacGregor had *some* physical resemblance with Guinness even if he was a few feet shorter than him.
Just hope he still has a career left after this film.
He won’t unfortunately. It’s sad to see another actor fall into the sarlacc pit and die a long and painful death… He looks and acts nothing like Ford. I had confidence in Disney, but I have now officially boarded the “FAIL” train for this film. Ask Jake Lloyd or Ahmed Best how their acting careers are going at this time… Yeah. It’s going to be like that… Prequels are a career death sentence for Star Wars actors.
So two people not having successful acting careers equals prequels becoming career death sentences?
We can count how many actors/actresses have had successful careers since they’ve been in since the prequels.
1) Liam Neeson
2) Ewan Mcgregor
3) Natalie Portman
4) Samuel L. Jackson
5) Hayden Christensen
6) Temuera Morrison
7) Christopher Lee
8) Ray Park
9) Rose Byrne
10) Jimmy Smits
11) etc.
Bwahahaha! Is this a joke??? They are all failing at the moment except Samuel L. Jackson. 1 exception… Thanks for presenting this list and helping to prove my point!
I think you need to educate yourself more on the difference between failure and success. If an actor has been in more than one film afterwards especially a hit, then that’s success. If they haven’t then they are failed.
i’ll just leave this here…
“The Empire can strike back in unexpected ways, with Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher and Natalie Portman all complaining of a downturn in fortunes after their appearances.”
http://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2015/mar/27/star-wars-adam-driver-domhnall-gleeson-force-awakens-rogue-one-lupita-nyong-o
Empire wasn’t a prequel movie, we were talking about prequels equaling failure remember, like you said this would be and Rogue One.
What you left with me is normal for any actor that has made it big in a movie. It really just depends on the time, luck, and skill.
If you worked as a gardner and then never got a job afterwards that’s failed. If you worked as a gardner and then had even one job afterwards then you succeeded.
Liam is still acting, Ewan is still acting, Natalie is still acting, Samuel is still acting, Hayden is still acting, Temuera I think is still acting, Christopher is dead (RIP), Ray has a family now and has been seen in movies recently, Rose is still acting, Jimmy is still acting…… failures I think not.
Indie films truly don’t count. They were on top of their games and now… Nobody in Hollywood cares about them. They had great acting careers, now… they are tossed aside for other actors.
That happens to every actor though, unless you have friends in Hollywood or have agents who are constantly seeking out specific roles for you. Where’d Sam Worthington go, he wasn’t in Star Wars?
Refresh your memory and look up a lot of those actors on imdb, they’ve been in a lot of movies within even the past couple of years.
Worthington is an unfair example – it’s a complete mystery how that guy got any work to begin with. It’s an even BIGGER mystery who was trying to make him leading man material – I’m sure he’s nice enough, but the guy is like a charisma sucking black hole that makes everyone else around him somehow more boring.
Well he is STILL an actor, and was STILL a leading one at that who was popular for a time just like any other popular “eye candy” lead like Jai Courtney, Channing Tatum, Dave Franco, or Zac Efron.
It’s not unfair, when it is a perfectly reasonable comparison regardless of how you feel about the man’s acting ability.
Sam Worthington has 3 new blockbuster movies already lined up… Maybe you heard of it? It’s called Avatar.
You are so hypocritical Pooch, to say that Sam Worthington is still getting work when all of those other actors I mentioned previously aren’t when they actually still are.
He is lined up to be in 3 major blockbuster movies filmed by James Cameron. That’s not being hypocritical… Like I said earlier, Samuel L. Jackson is still doing rather well. Even Natalie Portman admits Star Wars nearly ruined her acting career. Is she wrong for saying so? Do you think you truly know her career better than she does? Yeah, I thought not…
Except Natalie Portman’s career was not ruined, almost is not the same as definitely. That’s proof that your argument is invalid. X does not always equal Y: therefore X cannot always be true.
It would be the exact same thing if I said all ex Star Wars actors have succeeded, simply not true.
The Professional, V for Vendetta… all great movies. Her earlier acting ventures I remember were well received… Anything she has done lately is forgettable at best. Natalie in Thor? It was a role that was way beneath her acting abilities. It’s just the honest truth. We don’t see her in the “A” list roles anymore…
Now, look at someone like Oscar Isaac, he is one his “A” game at the moment. TFA was a hit movie. The majority of people that watched that film approved of the film. It was done correctly by JJ and his crew. I do not see him going away anytime soon. ..but, one bad movie or bad role and he could very well end up on the “C” list of actors.
Careers in acting are fickle and fleeting. One day your on top, the next day… nobody cares about you. One bad film and it could very well mean trip up an actors ladder climb to stardom.
My point is that most of those actors you listed were on top of their game or heading in a towards a promising acting career… Now? It’s an uphill battle for them to get a “B” list part. That is not success, that is just decline..
You are right about actors having downfalls, but that can happen to anyone in any movie, therefore I don’t understand why you are singling out Star Wars movies (Prequels or Originals) for being responsible for the rise and fall of a few actors and actresses. Also, what is recent? Last year? Two years? Five years? Ten years?
Your whole argument is that you don’t want this Han Solo movie to be made because it will lead to anyone who is cast in it to see a poor career in the future, right? Specifically Alden Ehrenreich. All of these actors and actresses know the risks when they seek movies like these, they know perfectly well that their lives and careers can change forever, that should be no surprise to anyone.
I have been arguing with you the whole time to tell you that actors playing in popular movies does not guarantee failed or successful careers, it’s not true, and even if it was a guarntee, it does not just apply to Star Wars movies.
My overall point is that I am emotionally invested in Star Wars and to touch something as sacred as the character of Han Solo, you better damn well get an actor that looks like, sounds like, and IS Han Solo for me to agree on taking a chance on destroying those solidified, foundational memories that have been created over the years. If you feel like taking a chance on this film? Go right ahead… I will not judge you. However, do not attempt to force feed me on the idea of watching this BS on the basis that there is a “chance” it will be good. I’d rather remember the character of Han Solo the way I do now. Not some sparkly, vampire wanna be actor groping Chewbacca in the seat of the Millennium Falcon…
I am emotionally invested in Star Wars as well, but it’s not rational to treat something as sacred that can never be touched. That’s called being close minded. However, don’t you think it’s worth the risk/chance of getting an awesome movie over not getting one at all? I’m not forcing you to watch the movie I’m just asking you to be more accepting of new ideas and other people who might like them. I stated way earlier that your “sacred” way of thinking is purely a selfish one, and if that’s how you want to be seen then keep on being that way. I just don’t think being selfish over something as trivial as Harrison Ford IS Han Solo is a positive outlook. It would be like me saying that Alec Guinees IS Obi-Wan and Ewan Mcgregor doesn’t matter or count, when there are plenty of people out there who loved Ewan Mcgregor’s version of Obi-Wan Kenoibi just as much if not more so than Alec Guiness’s portrayal of the same character.
You will always have the character of Han Solo portrayed by Harrison Ford. If you let a memory of your favorite character be tarnished by one movie then that’s your own personal problem. You can just as easily choose to ignore the new movies, or any of the new canon, and by the sound of things it seems like you already have.
By you saying “you can’t force feed me to like the idea of watching this BS” can just as easily be turned around by me saying “you can’t force feed me to dislike this masterpiece.”
I am being rational. For you to tell me how to think and process thought is being judgmental and a very “nazi” way of thinking. Unless you are from a communist country, which you very well might be from… I do not know.
Understand, I will never see your optimistic way of thought for this film. Never. Going. To. Happen. For that, I am truly sorry. It seems as though you determined to downplay my shared posts on the subject. Even though you state that it is ok to have an opinion. Again, you are truly hypocritical. I will be happy with my own thought process and not yours. Trust me on this. Maybe one day when you come down from your high horse you will respect others opinions. Enjoy the film.
Did I ever say you had to like the movie? Did I ever say you had to watch the movie? No, I said be more accepting like a rational good person.
If you are incapable of doing this, then we have nothing more to talk about. I won’t change who you are, and maybe it was my fault to think that I could try and share my POV on this, but it seems you have stated your final conclusion of this film and that’s that.
You clearly want to remain pessimistic about this film, you clearly want to share with other people on why they should not see this film, and you clearly want to remain hating the thought of this film for the years to come for simply selfish reasons. That’s not a positive thing but so be it. Why can’t you have a more positive outlook on life?
Don’t come crying back to these boards when the first trailer arrives and it ends up looking amazing, or when the film comes out and heaven forbid people actually end up enjoying the movie.
On the other hand, if it does end up being terrible, you can come back to these boards shouting how right you were and how awful the film was and how stupid we all were for having any hope or faith in this movie.
I will not gloat when the film bombs… That is like saying your favorite pet died and being happy about it. There will be no winners that day….
Your mistake is in assuming the film will bomb.
But wouldn’t you go out of your way to comfort your favorite pet? Or lose all hope and love for it?
Oh man, I’m getting depressed. #SaveChewie #StoptheMoon
You seem to forget Portman won an Academy Award for “Black Swan” and a nomination for “Closer”, but I bet you probably don’t watch those kinds of movies. Having said that, Portman herself admitted that, although the prequels didn’t ruin her career, it took her a long time to recover from the damage they inflicted on her.
Everyone cares for them because every one of them has career. Ali of them are still working in A movies. Natalie has two Oscar awards.
Don’t even bother to answer, they only listen to their biaised arguments.
I know I shouldn’t but it’s just so fun poking holes in people’s “logical” reasoning when they can’t even comprehend a paragraph.
Are you joking. Evan is working ali the time. Natalie movie was in cinema few months ago. Liam is working ali the time. Who is working from OT other than Ford?
Last I checked, they just hit TFA out of the park. So the OT actors are doing just fine at the moment. It sure was shaky for them though for the longest time. Ewan is looking for another Obi Wan movie. It’s obvious… and guess what? I would take an Obi Wan movie over a crappy Han Solo wanna-be movie any day of the week. At least Ewan even looks like Obi Wan should… Not some pretty boy, Disney-fied, high pitched tool that looks absolutely NOTHING like Harrison Ford(aka the TRUE Han Solo) I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if Han Solo sparkled and was turned into a wimpy vampire for this…
Add some context and people will listen to you.
Hamill got on a motorcycle and destroyed his boyish farmboy charm – dude had pretty good acting chops reflected in his still-revered Joker voice acting career (The Killing Joke is bringing him back).
Fisher has her own story and would have also succeeded, and kind of did in establishing the “comic-relief BFF of the main female lead” archetype from When Harry Met Sally that every RomCom has replicated since then.
Billy Dee got screwed over by Tim Burton and WB after Batman – he was signed to play Two Face originally. (have to pause now, I’m getting flashbacks of Tommy Lee Jones and then Batman & Robin).
Most PT actors were already well-established and burgeoning superstars – Portman’s career arc probably was delayed for a few years because of the PT. Hayden…well, yeah.
Mostly, the comparisons are pretty useless. Neither series ‘launched’ careers other than Ford.
OT was career death sentence for actors. Ford is only actor from OT that has career outside of star wars.
So Carrie and Mark were A-listers BEFORE SW is what you’re saying, do I have that right? SW KILLED their careers?
I’ve been battling this guy for hours, I don’t think he even understands what he is saying. He’s just spewing nonsense left and right, on the very cusp of trolling.
I would believe he is trolling completely if I didn’t get the feeling that he truly believes every word that he has typed.
Correct. I am sharing my opinion and you do not like it. It seems that you are the one who is looking for acceptance here… I am just here venting my anger towards this poor casting decision. Why don’t you just let me post what I want without your condescending judgmental responses? Can’t handle the fact that someone else here does not follow your idea on taking a “chance” on this film? You need to seriously practice what you preach… Now who is the hypocrite?
I already know many people agree with you, and I’m posting my opinion as well in defending this movie just like you are attacking it.
I can’t handle the “fact” that there are so many Star Wars fans who are not accepting of change, is what I find disturbing. Which is why I even bother to speak up. I probably won’t change anyone’s minds, I understand that, but I can still try, just like i’m going to try to give Rogue One and the Han Solo movie a chance. That’s not hypocrisy.
Star Wars is something that all fans should appreciate and not pick a part for this reason and that. I understand people are passionate, but to be so passionate that you can’t accept new ideas is not passion, it’s despotism and possible coersion.
I am going to share this with you in confidence. I am truly hoping that you are not so far beneath that you will attack this post…
I just did an experiment to see what a 9 year old would think of this casting choice without saying anything to sway the vote… This is what happened…
I showed my daughter the casting choice and said, “Check this out. Here is the new Han Solo. What do you think?”
Her exact response… “Ewww! He doesn’t look anything like Han Solo!”
Is her opinion wrong? No. It is her opinion just like my opinion which is, “Ewww! He doesn’t look anything like Han Solo!” I rest my case…
That’s fine, now show her a picture of River Phoenix and say “Here is the young Indiana Jones. What do you think?”
Her opinion is not wrong, just like your opinion is not wrong.
I actually think it’s great that you got your kids involved with Star Wars, because it should be shared with everyone to enjoy.
River Phoenix was totally believable as a young Indy. No comparison…
That’s because unlike this Han Solo movie, you actually were open to the idea of there being a young Indiana Jones in a Indiana Jones movie rather than writing it off before you even seeing a glimpse of the film.
I saw Rogue One’s trailer. Was I excited about it? Not really. Will I give it a chance? Absolutely. Because it is based off of new characters. Sure they are tossing in some OT characters. I can live with that. What I can’t watch is the main characters such as Luke, Han or Leia being changed into something completely different than what they have been for years.
Ok. I asked her if she thought this guy was a good young Indiana Jones and her response was, “Sort of.” Is it proof positive? No. …but it’s not an “Ewww!!”
True, it’s not an Ewww but we also don’t have the advantage of the Han Solo movie being released yet or the movie being out for years for audiences to forgive the likeness.
Another point to make is that River Phoenix played Harrison Fords son in the film The Mosquito Coast, pretty much putting him on Hollywood’s map. Then again, Anthony Ingruber played a young Harrison Ford in Age of Adeline. My wife dragged to that movie when it was in the theater. It was a good movie. Did Anthony Ingruber’s performance blow me away? Nope. However, the look he has is way more believable than someone that looks absolutely nothing like him. I do not want to see Han Solo reimagined. I want to see the character as I have known him for years.
Looks aren’t everything when it comes to acting.
No, it’s not. However, its the general basis for the character. The look needs to be there or the viewer is taken out of the film.
I think once you see him all made up and with the costume on you’ll forgive looks more, especially considering they have some of the best people in the business working on these films.
Nope. I refuse to touch it.
I agree. They should have left Han Solo alone.
Even Natalie’s career is dead now and she won an Oscar. Neeson looks bout ready to reture too. SLJ is reduced to credit card commercials and has pretty much been locked out of the MCU.
Only one they could reinvent was Obi-Wan but only because he was never that big a character in the OT. They pretty much failed with Anakin and Boba.
anyone else finding the “space” background to be of increasingly poor quality, or is it just me?
It’s not that bad, there’s only a couple obvious Photo-shopped parts.
1) Right above Jakku
2) A little to the left of “The Finalizer”
Those are just the parts I noticed on quick glance.
no, i’m talking about massive aliasing and over-compression compared to the quality a couple weeks ago.
I think you have a detaching retina. Get that checked out.
I found a better part for Alden.. He matches this character waaaaaaaay better than Han Solo. I knew he looked familiar…
How does this guy….
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/Young_Indiana_Jones_by_River_Phoenix.jpg
Look any more like this guy….
https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/YE_8PmhFoUFfKdJxg1-esG-rgms=/0x8:467×271/1280×720/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/47398728/indy.0.0.jpg
Than this guy…?
http://cdn.movieweb.com/img.news.tops/NEoD5qUHbjtArv_1_b.jpg
How does this guy…
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/Young_Indiana_Jones_by_River_Phoenix.jpg
Look any more like this guy….?
https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/YE_8PmhFoUFfKdJxg1-esG-rgms=/0x8:467×271/1280×720/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/47398728/indy.0.0.jpg
Than this guy…
http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE2LzAyLzA3L2U2L2FsZGVuLndhbnRlLmY5MTA1LmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTk1MHg1MzQjCmUJanBn/6349e5d9/461/alden.wanted.jpg
Looking like this guy…?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/–wEX_4bjhL4/UJmheBlL8oI/AAAAAAAAAPg/J6KGdxnXvIk/s1600/han+solo.jpg
To be fair River played him as a teen at 12-13. Alden will play him as a 19-20 man when he’s already fully grown. Han doesn’t strike me as a late bloomer. Most guys don’t look all that different from their early 20’s to late 20’s outside dramatic weight gain/loss, medical conditions, or disfigurements which I don’t see Solo having outside the scar on his chin.
Hey guys, just got a hot tip on a possible title!
SW Episode VIII- Starmageddon: Poochzilla vs. SonOfConstantDiligence
Coming to theaters in 2017… whose side will you choose?
TEAM EDWARD!
Not that I think this isn’t happening, but has there been an official confirmation of the casting from Disney yet?
When the trade publicizes something of this nature, they are usually pretty accurate… unless something were to happen to derail the project. Unfortunate this is…
Unfortunate that we know the truth?
No. Unfortunate that you will rush to see this crappy film once it’s released… Not ready for this burden are you.
I’m sorry.
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Oh, wait, no, no I’m not – I will be waiting for the reviews before plunking down cash for this thing.
Thank you. At least you’re open to seeing it.
If somehow Lord and Miller pull off a miracle and this thing is good, I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong – we’ll compare notes in a couple years, and who knows, maybe I’ll owe you a Coke, Smithers. I think I mentioned a long time ago, unlike some weirdos around the intertubez, I don’t actually ENJOY being disappointed by or hating shitty movies – I’d much rather be happy with a fun, well-executed romp.
Welp, just look at the Lego Movie for a comparison. Just like Han Solo Anthology, it could have been a terrible-quality cash grab, but it actually ended up as a critically-aimed movie. Hopefully Han’s movie will be similar.
That’s why I specifically said “Lord and Miller” – if there’s ANY hope for this film, it’s not the (cough) powerhouse of Kasdan and Kasdan, it’s not this kid, and it’s not my unbounded faith in Disney to want to tell a great, fun story ahead of making a release date – it’s what they’ve demonstrated they can pull entertaining films out of what should be complete shit ideas – Meatballs, Lego, and 21/22 are all far, far better than they deserved to be.
“…unless something were to happen to derail the project. ”
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Say, dats a nice film youse got dere, Disney – be a shame if something were to HAPPEN to it. A REAL shame like….
Anthony Ingruber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bba_wPdLxp4
Not an actor.
Yes, he’s an actor
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3452021/
A bad one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1HiTacdT1k
Nothings going to all of the sudden make him a good actor. Impressions aren’t the same thing.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001736/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000219/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001705/
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Look! They’re ACTORS! That must mean they should all play Han Solo….possibly taking turns.
“Is a hack who will soon be forgotten”?
“Was terrible in that Youtube short”?
“Must have compromising pictures of several hundred SW fans”?
” ‘s mom is very active on SW fan boards.”?
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What? What’s the end of that thought?