A Few Minor Tidbits on the Resistance, Leia, Rose, and Speculation on a Long Awaited Reunion in The Last Jedi!
Yesterday we shared with you a few tidbits about fathiers, the Caretakers and porgs coming from DK’s new book titled “Star Wars Made Easy”. The book is part of the “Journey to Star Wars: The Last Jedi” series, and offers an easy way to introduce Star Wars to your kids and friends who are not familiar with the movies and beyond. The segment about The Last Jedi offered another interesting quote about the Resistance and General Leia that caught our attention and which we will discuss below. Also the book offered a new detail about Kelly Marie Tran’s character Rose Tico…
POTENTIAL SPOILERS AHEAD!!!
First we start with a small bit of info on the Resistance that indicates we will witness an evacuation in the beginning of the film.
The Resistance
The Resistance won the battle, but not the war, and now the First Order knows where they are hiding. Evacuation will likely be the order of the day, and the Resistance will have to find a new home to set up for the coming struggle. They will look to General Organa for guidance.
We know that General Hux has the location of the Resistance base on D’Qar at the end of The Force Awakens. So it’s easy to guess that the First Order will attempt to attack the base after their defeat at Starkiller Base.
Many speculated that we’ve glimpsed that evacuation during The Last Jedi teaser where we see a major space battle happening above a greenish planet that looks very similar to D’Qar (it’s possible that the asteroid belt is not visible from the point of view from the image above).
Also from the above quote it is clear that the Resistance’s new home will be decided upon by General Leia herself.
This new home is most likely going to be Crait as perhaps many of you’ve have guessed. Especially after the reveal of the new comic book about Crait, in which it was mentioned that Luke and Leia encountered this planet in previous adventures taking place between A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back. The planet was also home to an old outpost for the Rebellion.
Now I am going to take a slight detour. The following few lines are just speculations (or perhaps wishful thinking) on my part. Knowing that Luke and Leia both have history on Crait, is it possible we’ll see the twins reunite on the desolate mineral planet during the final act in the movie? This is a scene that all of us have been waiting for. We didn’t get to see the “Big Three” reunite in The Force Awakens. Luke will never meet Han again, but wouldn’t it be too much if for a second straight movie Luke won’t see his twin sister? After the tragic death of Carrie Fisher, one could guess that The Last Jedi is perhaps the last chance to see them together, especially after Lucasfilm revealed that they don’t have future plans to digitally recreate Leia.
As you may recall, we’ve seen both Luke and Leia together in the Vanity Fair photo shoot, but it’s not rare to unite two characters just for the sake of the promo material. Still, from the Vanity Fair photos it does seem like Luke and Leia are both on a set that looks like Crait, mainly because of the metal structures in the background that can’t be found on the rocky planet of Ahch-To.
We’ve seen Leia in that same outfit on Crait, and we’ve seen Luke wearing two robes (light and dark) on Ahch-To, so it’s possible we’ll see a re-inspired Jedi Master Luke wearing the white one on Crait.
Whatever happens, we really hope to see Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher together on the big screen one last time. It seems the best candidate for that is Crait, but anything is possible.
Now back to the info on the Resistance revealed by the book. Together with the info that the Resistance has to evacuate and Leia will be looking for a new home for them it was mentioned that:
Leia knows that the Resistance’s only hope is to hold out long enough for rescue.
We can only speculate that that the evacuation over D’Qar is not going very well for the Resistance. Perhaps Leia is waiting for some support from the Republic? That support could come in the form of the Resistance bombers that we’ve seen in the teaser? It makes sense since we haven’t seen these ships before, so it’s possible they are brought in to the battle. Again I will speculate that it is Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo, played by Laura Dern, who comes to the Resistance and Leia’s rescue.
If you’re not very familiar with Holdo’s character, Wookieepedia has a nice brief description on her.
From Wookieepedia:
Amilyn Holdo was a human female from Gatalenta. In her youth, Holdo served in the Apprentice Legislature of the Imperial Senate, where she became acquainted with Princess Leia Organa of Alderaan. During her time in the Apprentice Legislature, Holdo became friends with Organa, who confided with her about involvement with the rebellion against the Galactic Empire. Later, by the year 34 ABY, Holdo became a Vice Admiral in Organa’s Resistance during its war with the First Order.
That’s all about the quote on the Resistance. What do you think? Does some of the speculation make sense to you?
Speaking about the Resistance, the book has another interesting quote on Rose Tico, the Resistance’s technician played by Kelly Marie Tran.
Rose
Rose serves as a technician in the Resistance. She is tough, smart, and loyal, but she has a tragic past that she prefers to keep hidden. Thrown together by a twist of fate, Rose and Finn will be spending a lot of time in each other’s company.
We wonder if her “tragic past” will have a role in the movie or it’s just a random backstory for the character.
So, what do you think? Is it possible to see Luke and Leia finally reunited on Crait? Or perhaps somewhere else?
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I don’t like how familiar this sounds…Death Star destroyed, base found by baddies, good guys have to relocate, found again and a huge ground battle happens again….please, please don’t let them follow this or they’ll never live down the copy and paste of TFA.
It can have all the things you listed and still be very different.
Exactly! I mean are they going to just sit there and get annihilated? Of course not. They are weakened very much at this point. They have to evacuate and regroup. It only makes sense.
And if they evacuate and it’s a space battle, that’s different. Finding a new base IN THIS MOVIE is different. It’s superficial similarities.
Also Star Wars have repeated themselves….from time to time. It’s all about the familiar with the new, I don’t get what people are bitches about literally every single day.
no, no, no…..
Search your feelings, you know it to be true!
We’ve already discussed this topic to death. Any movie, and Star Wars movies in particular, can have similar thematic, story, or aesthetic material and still be different. Just because there’s new AT-AT walkers on a Salt planet attacking a Resistance base, with speeders defending the base doesn’t mean that it’s going to be an exact copy of ESB. Did the walkers in Rogue One defending the Death Star plans mean that it was an exact copy of ESB? I think not, I realize that a lot of Star Wars fans just want to see “something new” but the problem with just wanting to see the new stuff means you have to sacrifice the elements that make Star Wars, Star Wars, because all the new stuff means it hasn’t been done before.
If every single aspect of the new Star Wars films was different and new, then you’d have fans complaining about things like “Where are the lightsabers, the aliens, the droids, and the ships that we saw in other Star Wars movies.” All this new stuff is too dissimilar to the older Star Wars movies, the prequels even get that criticism sometimes to this day.
And because everything is subjective there’s no possible way to please every fan. Even if they got a perfect balance of new Star Wars stuff, with familiar Star Wars stuff, telling an entirely new story that wasn’t similar at all to the OT or PT. I’d be willing to bet there’d still be fans complaining that it wasn’t what they expected or wanted to see in the new Star Wars movies.
c’mon…yes, you can have the same ships and things like that. But you don’t have to parallel certain points or repeat common stories. They could be 100% original with no issues. I’m sure there would be complaining about whatever they did…that’s what SW fans have done for years. I’m just stating that they don’t need to have similar enough items to make us eye roll, as TFA did.
They could make an outstanding movie with all of the same weapons, characters and such and give us something that wasn’t done in the OT. Why even give us the chance to make these comments?
I never eyerolled at anything in TFA though, except for maybe the stormtrooper masks not filtering toxins part, which I thought was dumb because I thought that the helmets should by default. I didn’t even notice that many similarities until everyone vehemently pointed them all out. I did notice a few callbacks and whatnot but I expected that and it didn’t ruin the entire movie for me, same with Rogue One.
Maybe I was just super pumped to finally see a sequel to three of my favorite movies of all time, but I never criticized TFA to the level that some people did. Which is fine, but I think it’s been overdone.
I was as pumped as anyone one and paid for several people to go with me…for me, just a total let down, though I realize that I’m the minority in my opinion of this.
It’ll be interesting, if we ever see what the Lucas treatment would have been.
I agree, that it would be interesting to see what vision Lucas had in mind for the sequel trilogy as a whole, or even just to see what he had in mind for Episode 7 would be pretty cool to see.
I can’t imagine that Lucas’s version would have been drastically and even utterly different from the version we got with Abrams’ and Kasdan’s script. You never know though.
my guess…we’ll never know. I’d bet though, he would have stayed closer to the EU, at least with the twins and Ben. but, pure speculation.
Clearly they are setting up Rose’s sister to die in the beginning of the movie. It will likely be her motivation to go with Finn.
There is quite a bit to dissect here. For starters, the Resistance abandoning their base was obvious. I mean considering how we know Crait is going to be their base and what happened with ANH and the Rebels’ original base on Yavin, this is ONE callback I am fine with.
As it makes tactical sense. As for the movie showcasing the evacuation, that’s fine. Heck, it gets the whole Hoth sequence bit( minus the walkers) out of the way. Plus, it adds to the idea that this movie is continuing right off of TFA.
Leia I am most curious in seeing how she is in TLJ. Especially, given how Han is dead, her son killed him and really her wellbeing of Luke. Hopefully, this movie takes some time to flesh out Leia, as not only a tribute to Carrie Fisher, but also the character. And dam it; I do love Leia as a character. My favorite of the trinity after Luke. 🙂
Rose seems interesting. On one hand, the cynic in me says she was put into place to appease the asian market. But knowing Rian Johnson, I am sure he will have her do some cool stuff. Heck, maybe her interactions with Finn will make Finn a better character(Yeah, I went there).
As for Admiral Holdo, I am excited to see her. I love Laura Dern: I think she is a phenomenal actor and really giving her such an impactful role is right up her alley. And really, given her history with Leia; I am expecting some great political intrigue. And given CF tragic passing, I wouldn’t be surprised if she took command of the Resistance.
Overall, I am super looking forward to seeing Holdo introduced and getting to know more about her. 🙂
With some of the rumors we’ve been hearing, I wouldn’t be surprised to see if it ends up being Poe that takes the reigns of the Resistance over from Leia. We’ve heard rumors that Leia somehow becomes incapacitated during this movie, and that there’s friction between Holdo and Poe. My bet is that Holdo – acting in command while Leia is unable to lead – makes some bad military decisions, and that Poe strongly disagrees with her and essentially defies her orders. I wouldn’t be surprised if Holdo’s blunder(s) backfire and cost her her life, and Poe steps in to take control of the situation. Maybe this scenario won’t play out but I believe (more than that, I HOPE) that Poe’s character will become more than just a hot-shot pilot Han Solo-type, and that we see him develop into more of a strong leadership role. Time will tell…
I hope so too. Oscar Isaac, he was cast I was so excited as I knew he was a talented actor. But Poe was such a bland character. Really, I give credit to him for being so charming and making him memorable, because whenever I press people on Poe as a character, many cannot come up with that. Even, Rey and Finn, bland as I found them, have at least some distinguishable traits and were in the movie long enough.
And really, I have been reading this comic and it has been excellent. If anything, I was under the assumption that Poe and Leia had some friction, but I could see that being temporary/ a foil for Poe when encountering Holdo. Overall, I trust RJ a lot more than Abrams, because RJ excels at in-depth characterization. I recently rewatched Looper and was amazed at how personable and intimate a lot of the scenes were.
And that has always been SWs greatest strength.
The character wasn’t put in to appease the Asian market. Maybe the actress, but they certainly wouldn’t cast anyone who wasn’t good enough.
I just hope that we finally get to see Luke and Leia reunited at last. When I first saw the Vanity Fair spread, I was excited that a reunion was indeed in the film, then realized that it’s just as possible that it was strictly for the purposes of the photo shoot. Some of the greatest highlights of TFA for me were the scenes with Han and Leia. I’m not ashamed to admit that I shed tears of joy to see them together again, if only briefly. Rian Johnson professes to be a huge “Star Wars” fan, so I dearly hope he realizes that two of the things we most want from TLJ are a Luke/Leia reunion and seeing Luke in his full glory as a seasoned Jedi Master kicking ass and taking names. We’ll find out in just three months!
The evacuation takes place so fast that Admiral Ackbar forgets to pack his moisturizer — hence his quiet resentment towards Leia and her new base planet made of salt.
Keep your eyes on that guy — dry, itchy skin can drive one to madness.
We can only hope for an Ackbar monologue on the evils of salt and how it gets everywhere.
Little did we know… 30 years ago, Leia went full-on Dark Side, tracked down Jabba’s entire remaining slug family, and plopped them on the salt flats of Crait to bake (for a thousand years).
Well, we know that Admiral Ackbar’s ship was hot, and Admiral Raddus’ ship was much more moderately climate controlled. This is apparent from Raddus being blue and Ackbar being a perfectly cooked bright red.
See? The guy’s supposed to be blue. It’s all Leia’s fault.
Gee, haven’t we already seen the evacuation of a rebel base (Hoth) while under attack from the Empire? Haven’t we already seen something very similar in Rebels? They really are not reassuring me that TLJ is not a rehash of ESB. I get that the FO knows where the Resistance base is, but does the evacuation really need to feature in the movie? I just really hope it plays out differently than it did in ESB.
I really want to be positive, and I really do not want to believe that TLJ will be a rehash of ESB, but I keep seeing things that make me worry.
Yes, but if The First Order didn’t discover the Resistance base location, then The Resistance would have no justification in leaving the planet. So, Episode VIII and IX would continue to be set on D’qar.
Starkiller Base was targeting the Resistance in the final act of TFA, so pretty sure the FO knows its location.
Yes, giving the justification for moving the location.
I think the evacuation of D’Qar will be much worse for the Resistance than the evacuation of Hoth was for the Rebellion. And I think the decision was made that we need to see how bad it is,for us to understand the dire straits the Resistance finds itself in, in TLJ.
Also with this film starting up right after TFA I think it makes sense for us to see it as well.
Also Space Battle!!!
Actually, as far as I understand it, the rebels in the OT first evacuated from Yavin 4, before settling on Hoth and being attacked by the Empire. In that sense, D’Qar is more like Yavin (except that the Resistance doesn’t manage to evacuate before the FO arrives), whereas Crait is actually the new Hoth, except that, when the FO attacks Crait (third act ?), the Resistance might actually win this time (at least, that is my speculation at the moment).
I get what everyone is saying in their responses to my post, and I understand how it fits into the story. Still, it looks like we have the First Order knowing where the Resistance base is, the Resistance knows they need to evacuate and they are not able to before the FO attacks. This is exactly what happened in ESB. Whether it is the Resistance’s first base or second really does not matter.
We know they need to relocate. Why not have them do it off screen without being attacked so that we are not seeing a remake of ESB? Focus on other parts of the story instead so that we see something different. After all, we already know we are going to see a Jedi being trained and a bunch of small speeders fighting large AT-ATs on a white landscape. Do we really need another direct throwback to ESB?
I concur it’s sounding too similar to ESB. Still, it’s a bad idea not to focus at least some of this movie’s visuals on the evac. We tried ‘off-camera’ explanations in TFA. In particular, we tried politics in the opening crawl and three sentences from General Hux. “I DON’T UNDERSTAND IT!!” Nope, sorry, we gotta hold everyone’s hand like they’re six years old and VISUALLY explain what is going on.
Sounding more and more that the movie’s outline is:
Act 1: Ahch-to and D’qar
Act 2: Ahch-to, Crait and Canto Blight?
Act 3: Crait, and Canto Blight?
Snoke’s Star Destroyer will be the main point of interest for The First Order and may or may not feature in all 3 acts, but will become more prominent in the final act.
Ending TFA Snoke wants Kylo to complete his training… I wonder if the movie will alternate those 2 trainings, both supposed will happen in Act 1.
Also I believe the trainings will need some time gap to make more credible the skills adquired.
It could well be. Ahch-to’s first act could really focus on Luke’s inner turmoil and reluctance to train Rey, leaving her training to the second act. Or, we could see a training montage for the first time. The 2nd act will also have Kylo Ren and TKOR attack Rey and Luke on Ahch-to. I believe the end of the second act is the Falcon leaving Ahch-to, being attacked by the Tie Fighters that we see in the teaser trailer. If Luke’s X-Wing is no longer operational then he must also be onboard the Falcon.
The movie needs one or more Macguffins, those are the pieces missing for us. All characters will move towards the MAcguffins like crossing roads.
I am not totally sure about Luke´s reluctance although we have the famous quote “The Jedi must end”, and also fan made script leaks a bit inconsistents in my opinion…
If you think about it in terms of story telling economy, they have only 2 hours and a half and it could be a bit lose of time if finnally Luke trains Rey, as it seems will happen.
“we could see a training montage for the first time.”
If they’re going to do this they should go all in and do it right. I’m talking “Rocky” style people – Rey doing one-armed push-ups and running around trying to catch porgs with her bare hands, all while “Eye of the Tiger” plays in the background. Epic.
Question: “Rey, what’s you’re prediction for your inevitable showdown with Kylo Ren?
Rey’s response: “Pain!”
Lol.
A simultaneous training montage between dark side and light side training would be epic.
I wholeheartedly agree.
“We wonder if her “tragic past” will have a role in the movie or it’s just a random backstory for the character.”
Well, if it’s not in the film you can bet that there will be an entire novel (Trilogy of novels) or comic series that’s itching to tell it….
My guess: Paige Tico gets killed in the first act. She’s part of the Republic forces sent out to help the Resistance. RIP Paige Tico — you’re still the best sculpted 3.75″ action figure of the first wave release!
Ah, that’s a really good bit of deduction, and makes perfect sense, since we’ve already been told that Paige is a gunner.
…… but DJ’s hacking role ? Surely, for Finn & Rose to be on their time-constrained mission the D’Qar blockade must be over by then ???
Hmm possibly. Idk if that makes sense tho. Why would she want to keep that hidden? I’m sure everyone knows they’re related.
I wonder if Canto Blight is related to who has been founding First Order all these years, may be Snoke is a wealthy guy. Following the trace of the money?
Also what is the mission that brings the Resistance there.
Watching TFA sometimes you can think Kylo Ren is a mole infiltrated, but other times you realize that´s not possible… it would be a huge twist, and they would have to find a new villain… too much effort I guess…
Maybe. But it’s looking like at the moment Canto is where Finn and Rose must go to look up someone, and that someone I think is DJ. They need his slicing (hacking) skills for some reason. Perhaps something to do with disabling a weapon that is threatening the Republic forces from assisting the Resistance.
Yes, the spoilers indicate that Finn and Rose are looking for DJ. It remains to be seen how Finn will be reunited with the other protagonists, if they are reunited at all in TLJ.
Thank you for the details, I knew about DJ, but not that detailed.
But I wonder if there are multiple reasons to show us a world like Canto Blight, and not only rescuing him, I prefer not to think that the world choosen reason is random.
This is just my speculation:
Johnson said that he didn’t go much into Snoke’s origins. I believe him, because I find this disappointing. Johnson should have provided more development/revelations about Snoke. Now, Episode IX could feel really crammed.
I think DJ is just some sleaze who hangs at Canto Bight to sell his slicing skills to gamblers who want to game the odds in their favor. He doesn’t care for either side in this war (“Don’t Join”). He may have history with Leia and the Resistance, which would explain why Finn and Rose are assigned to go find him specifically. The FO may have an official presence on Canto Bight in some capacity which is why Finn is assigned or volunteers for this important gig.
That’s all. This is sounding like a plot contrivance for Johnson to show a Monte Carlo-like setting in the world of Star Wars, and a chase sequence with Finn and Rose riding an alien horse while being chased by the Canto Bight flying-chair police. lol
I enjoy the idea of showing a world of luxury, gamblers, while the galaxy is in chaos… because is a good reflection of ours.
Finn as the sacrified stormtrooper securing a world so this people can enjoy cocktails in the yatch deck.
It seems a kind of review/update of Jabba castle… I wonder if there is a bit Canto Blight in Los Angeles too.
Snoke’s origins aren’t needed for the story, any more than the Emperor’s were for the OT.
“plot contrivance”
Han going to Bespin was a plot contrivance, then.
Maz links Finn & Rose to DJ, by directing them to Canto Bight….
Perhaps a clarification: These bombers — maybe they are technically REPUBLIC, if they are under the command of Holdo. They are trying to come to the Resistance’s aid.
I am way more interested in Luke and Leia to reunite in this film more then finding out who Rey is or isn’t related to. I think it will be a disappointment not to have Luke ever get a chance to meet up with his sister. It’s sad that we will never see in a sequel film a scene with Luke, Leia and Han together in one room. (at least with the original actors). I wonder if George Lucas’ original outline for this sequel would’ve had such a scene with the BIG THREE together. Sigh….
Rumour has it that Luke/Leia/Han would have been downplayed in George Lucas’ version of the Sequel Trilogy, attention shifting to a new generation of teenage characters. That was apparently a chief reason why Disney put Lucas’ plot outline in the round file.
Leia’s silhouette is looking remarkably Vaderish.
I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade, but given that it seems like Luke changes into his black outfit soon after the beginning of the movie I think that Crait Vanity Fair photo must be from between the promo shoots, where Luke is wearing his TFA costume.
Agreed. It looks like he switches into the other outfit very soon into the movie
new pix
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/78584
All of these have been revealed in the past one way or another. 🙂
Lol, rekt m8:)
AICN? Eww. Hasn’t been a real source of exclusive movie info for 15 years or so. Just a sad collection of gross losers now. Just read some of the comment sections.
Rose betraying in 3, 2, 1 ….
“First we start with a small bit of info on the Resistance that indicates we will witness an evacuation in the beginning of the film.”
Sounds like it will be a remake of ESB.
I keep thinking the same thing, unfortunately. Canto Bight = Cloud City, the evacuation, the old Jedi master training the new one on the desolate, unknown planet… there have been a few too many things that run a little close to ESB so far.
Hopefully it all plays out differently – I’m REALLY looking forward to this movie! I can’t wait to see what they’ve done with Luke.
Let’s not forget a walker battle against speeders on a snow-ish planet.
Seriously. I understand that it takes place almost immediately after TFA, but cmon.. It sounds like a rehash big time.
The world is cooking, we have an authoritarian asshole leading the “free world”, we’re in the midst of the largest ecological die-off since the dinosaurs, caused by humans, and we’re complaining about new Star Wars. Cool. Cool cool.
We’re in the midst of the largest ecological die-off since the dinosaurs, with an authoritarian asshole at the helm of the largest military our planet has ever seen. Thank goodness we can complain about new Star Wars being theoretically based on the best of the franchise. Please, tell me more before I accidentally enjoy the film, point out the cyclical nature of Ring Theory, and the end of days happens. Thanks!
At the end of this movie, I fully expect Luke to end up in the hands of the First Order so that he may be rescued in IX.
Because any evacuations must be a derivative from another movie… best logic ever… oh so any implication of evacuation like the mission in star wars games like for example The Rebellion’s evacuation of Yavin 4… must have been a remake of ESB
Porgs taste like chicken.
I think the twist will be Luke turning to the dark side at the end of VIII and Rey trying to bring him back in 9. It’s all because of his mechanical hand, no one knew it was Anakins!
He’s gonna scalp R2 for the heck of it in front of C3PO, threepeeO will lose his programming and think HE’S Leia.
Why don’t they use plots like that, more people would watch.
like some kind of Dark Empire plot? minus the Palpatine clones
If anyone wants to really know, and I mean -really- know, if Luke and Leia share a scene in the film, continue reading. Otherwise, stop reading.
Sure?
Alright. And this isn’t some joke.. They do. I can guarantee it. 🙂 Never done this before and never will again, but I was so relieved when I knew so, look forward to December! 😀