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Star Wars Rebels Review: Imperial Super Commandos + Rebels Recon. What Did You Think?

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After a week break, Rebels comes back featuring a focus on the ever popular Mandalorians. Sabine gets a lot of screen time and what does that mean? We know she is “Clan Vizla” and she attended the Imperial Academy on Mandalore. Do we find out any other secrets regarding her past? Read below and find out!!!!!!!!

 

 

SPOILERS BELOW!!!!

 

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What worked for me:

 

  • Fenn Rau

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We know Fenn from the previous season, in which he made a deal with the Empire to stay out of their way, but was captured by Kanan and the Ghost crew. He had every reason to betray the Rebels when they took him back to Concord Dawn, but in the end he didn’t. Ultimately, it was Sabine’s willingness to die for Fenn and her honor that convinced him to join up with the Rebels. This story aspect could come off forced very easily, but I think the episode does a great job of showing us Fenn’s transformation.

 

 

  • MANDALORIANS EVERYWHERE!!!!

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I never read deeply into the Legends stories of the Mandalorians. I only know the canon interpretation. I just wanted to get that out there…I LOVED the use of them in this episode. I always wondered what would happen if the Empire and Mandalore “teamed up,” and this episode answers that question. The Empire controls the planet, using a Mandalorian as their puppet. You can see that in the episode title well. Judging by Fenn’s reference to Imperial Super Commandos, I think it’s safe to say that their people don’t do conformity too often…I LOVED the design of all the Super Commandos. I usually tend to love simpler designs, and I really liked the sleekness of the look.

 

 

  • Gar Saxon and the Imperial Super Commandos

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Gar Saxon is a new character introduced in this episode and I really dig him. He apparently is “ruler” of Mandalore (well…the Empire put him in charge, anyway). He knows who Sabine’s mother is, and tells Sabine that she’s joined the Empire. He’s even willing to spare Sabine on account of her family connection (and submitting to the Empire, can’t forget that). I love how he comes off so ruthlessly, and he’s a great villain that should be a reoccurring character.

 

 

What didn’t work for me:

 

NOTHING!!!! I truly loved this episode!

 

 

Quick Hitters:

 

  • Sabine gets her jet pack finally!…then it gets busted later on. I assume she’ll fix it?

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  • This will be pointed out by everyone, but the Super Commandos are loosely based on McQuarrie’s design below. At least they share that sweet red upside down triangle on the forehead!

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I have to give it to Rebels this season…It’s far superior to last season. This might be in my top 5 episodes of the series. It’s pushing the Rebels overall story forward with Fenn joining in willingly, which will no doubt come into play this season, while at the same time giving us great Star Wars action that we all love.

 

I’ll leave you all with my favorite line from the episode, spoken by Ezra:

“Mandalorians are crazy.”

 

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Also the latest episode of Rebels Recon has been released. Tell us what you thought about the episode in the comments section and check out StarWars.com’s new video Rebels Recon #3.06: Inside “Imperial Super Commandos”.

 

 

 

313 Responses

  1. Carberry says:

    This episode…holy jeez. Wasn’t sure what to expect, but wow did it deliver. The dialogue, characters, everything felt really spot on. My most favorite scene being the jet pack chase, I honestly felt it was on par with that of watching the films.

    10/10, no question about it!

  2. Grand_Admiral_Dux says:

    mandaloians, how i’ve missed you. that jetpack chase was seriously dope and love the references to their history and politics. hope we get more like this in the future!

  3. Canine Turd Burglar says:

    Meh.

    Tired of so many episodes whoring off rejected old McQuarrie designs, and has anyone noticed how many episodes increasingly resolve with a small battle involving members of the Ghost crew making a slim getaway? This episode just felt repetitious.

    I dunno, this one just didn’t do it for me. Didn’t really advance Sabine all that much and I can’t say I care too much about the other Mandolorians in it.

    On the plus side, I continue to be impressed with the quality of the episode scores.

    • Grand_Admiral_Dux says:

      “and has anyone noticed how many episodes increasingly resolve with a
      small battle involving members of the Ghost crew making a slim getaway?”

      tends to happen when you’re constantly battling a superior force.

      • Canine Turd Burglar says:

        Yes, but it’s not the only kind of story that can be told. Repetition isn’t good for storytelling.

        Of course, there are those who will make excuses for anything…

        • obijuanmartinez says:

          AND those who show up here weekly, with any scarcely-discernible worldly talent of their own (except complaining) to slag the ‘poor’ quality of the (kids) show

          Dude….on the real: WHY. FUCKING. BOTHER? Isn’t as old for you as the rest of us? (And if you’re so great, why not create something of your own? Is b/c you lack the talent to do so? If not, prove me wrong. If so – STFU and MOVE ON)

          • Canine Turd Burglar says:

            Butthurt much?

          • obijuanmartinez says:

            Oh wow, troll – talk about a cornucopia!

            Projection: A form of defense in which unwanted feelings are displaced onto another person, where they then appear as a threat from the external world. A common form of projection occurs when an individual, threatened by his own angry feelings, accuses another of harboring hostile thoughts…

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Another stupid comment… if you havent created and published something than rebels is the greatest show ever!

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Perhaps you shouldn’t resort to calling people names who are sharing their opinion, as you have stated repeatedly that we all have the right to share here.

            His opinion is different than yours. No reason to call him stupid, especially with how you present yourself here on the forums.

            Also, this is another example of your “YEAH, WHAT HE SAID” trollesque posts.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            He’s not sharing an opinion, doofus, he’s rage attacking someone. You and him must be butt buddies on the self-appointed Rebels forum police force.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Rage attacking, much like you have been doing to me now all week. Amusing.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Im not the one whose favorite person ever got her ass handed to her in tuesday night. Im not the one butt hurt that is favorite tv show is flawed.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            This isn’t a place for political discussion.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Hillary lost.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            This isn’t a place for political discussion.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Fact. Hillary lost just like you lost.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Again, this isn’t a place for political discussion.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Guess you had better change your avatar and handle then.

            Ps…. Hillary lost.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            This isn’t a place for political discussion.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Guess you had better change your avatar and name then.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I don’t discuss it.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            That’s a technicality. I guess I’ll just change my Avatar to a picture of Hillary in an orange jumpsuit and call myself Hillary lost! Because that won’t be political at all.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            This isn’t a forum for political discussion.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            No discussion, just a fact.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            This isn’t a forum for political discussion.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            All to easy.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Typical, you just shove your opinions in someones face and then try and weasel out of it. You don’t need to “discuss” it when it’s brought up with every post you’ve made.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            You engaged me first. Remember? “YEAH WHAT HE SAID”. Also, again, discussion forum for sharing and discussing opinions. You’re the one who can choose to ignore my post instead of acting like..this.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            By yeah what he said… you mean when I pointed out that you were wrong. Yeah, you didn’t like that, did you? You were trying to bully TUD and someone showed you he was right and you were wrong. Ohhh… that must have mad you so mad.

            I do also remember you jumping into a conversation I was having below with Obijuan Martinez. Funny how selective your memory is.

            And it’s funny how you change the subject so often. I point out something that goes against what you say, and you quickly change the subject. Guess we found your MO. LOL.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I mean when you chose to dog pile on me in what wasn’t even a dog pile to join. It was two people who disagreed with me. Who stop posting days ago because they’re mature adults. I wasn’t trying to bully TUD. We were having a discussion. I didn’t call him names, or tell him to leave, or try to engage his political beliefs in order to upset or offend him. Unlike you.

            Yes, I did jump into that conversation, but not as YEAH WHAT HE SAID MOMENT but to pick apart your post and show you that you knew not what you were talking about. You know, those three writers you still won’t name.

            I don’t change the subject. You do. Projection. Also you’re losing this so bad you’re just trying to make things up so I cannot engage you at all.

            Sadly for you, I’m still not going anywhere.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            I agreed with him… you just don’t like being proven wrong. They probably stopped posting because they could’t stand talking to you. Bullies don’t get to decide if they are bullies, sorry. You annoy people and pester them and push and shove until they finally stop talking to you so you then you “get” to have the last post and feel like a winner. I finally got around to checking it out, it;s your MO. You do this every where you go.

            If that was your attempt when you jumped into “my” conversation, then you failed because you didn’t pick apart anything. In fact, I showed you that you were wrong.

            And I’ve already shown how you change the subject many times, and here you are now accusing me of it? Lol.

            That;s not sad for me. I enjoy beating you down.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            One more because I love this one.

            “Again My point was that the inquisitors and sith are “basically” the same thing. I never changed that argument and the fact that you can’t read or comprehend isn’t my fault.”

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            And once again because i love this.. see the word “basically?” Does it say they are “definitely” the same?

            Thanks for playing. Next.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            If it isn’t discussed, then it isn’t a discussion.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Sounds like some typical Hillary BS spin.

            I’m not discussing anything, btw, I’m just stating a fact: Hillary lost the election.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            This is not a forum for political discussion.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Is it not a fact that Hillary lost?

          • American_Ignorant says:

            This is not the place to have a political discussion. I have admitted that I both like Rebels and the show is flawed. Because it’s a children’s cartoon.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Nor is it the place for you to come in and harass everyone who criticizes your beloved show (as I’ve had to repeat several times now for your dense ass). I’ll make it real simple for you – just because it is a children’s cartoon does not mean it can not be good. That is a fact. Yet I can almost guarantee you will dispute that.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Who is “everyone”? Also, you’re the one harassing me, as you were the one who engaged me first when I was in a debate with someone else. Never said it can’t be “good” for being a children’s cartoon. I said that the flaws that you and TUD have pointed out frustrate you with the show won’t change because of the medium it is presented in. A 23 minute episodic childrens cartoons.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Clone wars changed.

            Everyone is everyone who has to read your crap in here.

            I also dont think tou understand the meaning of the word debate. Its more a smack down people keep giving you. But i guess i respect that you wont give up. Reminds me of hillary.. eventually she did though when america rejected her.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            You are a broken record. People, everyone. You were able to cite two people, of whom I already addressed. Who else? Hardly a smack down. You’re just a guy who isn’t going to stop posting.

            I’m not either.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Its a bonafide smack down. But if you want more ill keep dishing it out.

            Prove that the show wont change. Where is your evidence?

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Season 3 and it hasn’t changed.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            That’s not evidence… that’s speculation (that because we are 1 short first season, 1 full second season, and not even a full third season into this show, and it hasn’t significantly improved yet, it can’t and won’t)..

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Yes, it’s evidence. They haven’t changed anything they’ve done in how they tell their stories and produce the series.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            And here is the problem: someone doesn’t understand what the word evidence means. And that someone is called American_Ignorant. oh, the irony.

            You have yet to prove that the show won’t/can’t change. And unless you have a time machine that goes into the future I would give up before you look like an even bigger fool, Hillary.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I have provided more evidence then you have to explain my rationale. You still think Dave Filoni is reading this conversation and writing down your.. lol .. input.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Doesnt matter what i think. And i never specifically said he was. Prove that he doesnt… thats the point. You cant. You never can.

            Btw opinions are not evidence.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            One more time with feeling – childrens cartoon or not it can be better!

          • American_Ignorant says:

            See? It only takes a week and you start to make sense. That isn’t the point you started on, but it’s a rational one that is allowable in a discussion. Yes, it can be better. I agree.

            But it won’t be. It draws a big enough crowd and people are happy with it, or we wouldn’t be on Season 3. So, you can continue to complain, but there won’t be any changes.

            Were you hoping Mr. Filoni was reading this whole conversation like before? lol

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            He may or may not you cant prove otherwise. Doesnt mean i dont share my opinion. Besides filloni does listen to the fans, its how clone wara got better (although rebels seems beyond reproach).

            The difference between you and i is that i post opinions. You just post ill thought out rebuttals in response to other peoples opinions. That what makes you such a great troll.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Clone Wars did get better from the first season, but much of what still made it a cartoon was present through out the series. So many of its episodes were obviously catering to children. Then we adults would get that bone thrown to us in a different arc.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            The majority of episodes were stronger and appealed to both adults and kids alike more strongly. It had more depth that made it feel more akin to the movies.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I wouldn’t say a majority, there were plenty of Jar Jar Binks like episodes and other strange lunacy smattered through out the show. But a lot of the other narratives did get better.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            I would say a majority, yes, easily, and that’s my opinion. I’m willing to bet most rational people think so too.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Yes, you see. You did something right. “That’s my opinion,” but then you brought in a generalization at the end you can’t back up.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Oh so i actually have to type the words “thats my opinion” for you to understand that. No wonder you havent mastered thia internet commenting thing yet.

        • Carberry says:

          Repetition will always exist in storytelling, we live in age where everything is remixed and appropriated. It is the storytellers (director/however you see it) job to find ways to still provide a unique experience.

          Even if it doesn’t feel unique, if it feels well written and the characters are compelling enough, it still reaches out as a rewarding experience. I feel this episode did that for me, but I get it if you don’t share same feel.

      • Uncle Deadly says:

        It’s a formulaic TV show. it’s like asking “Hey, did you ever notice House always solves the medical mystery at the end?”

        • Jeff says:

          exactly this

        • Kill Kanan now says:

          Doesnt need to be. And its not really formulaic to be honest. House was always about house.

          • Grand_Admiral_Dux says:

            it was about house solving the case of the week, everything else revolved around that.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Exactly house was formulaic, rebels doesnt need to be in that aspect you mentioned. Its already about more than one star.

          • Grand_Admiral_Dux says:

            i do wish this show had a wider scope like clone wars did which allowed it to explore pretty much every angle of the galaxy. this show is much more locked into the galactic civil war and this specific cast of heroes.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            I wish the show had the same caliber writers as clone wars. One thing ive noticed is that clone wars had credible adult writers whereas this show has cartoon writers.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Oh. Did you..Did you just contradict yourself in the entire argument you had with me over an entire week? Brilliant.

            The cartoon writers writing a cartoon show.

            Funny you bring that up though. You should visit imdb.com and compare the list of writers for both series.

            Rebels is written by most of the same writers that contributed to the Clone Wars, minus two or three so far.

            Timothy Zahn is even uncredited as having written an episode.

            Man, those facts. Ouch.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            The best most adult writers are those three. Im talking about writers you find on primetime vs writers who cut heir chops on nickelodeon and disney.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            LOL which three are those?

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            ??? We agree House was formulaic. My point is this show does not have to be. You make the implication that it does and my point is unlike house we have a whole team, which revolves around different team aka Ghost crew members each week, so all ready it lends itself to being unformulaic. Clone Wars also shows us we can have different arcs both shorter and longer which House rarely did.
            I can’t believe I have to spell this out.

          • Grand_Admiral_Dux says:

            i think we already talked about this…?

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Maybe lol.

    • American_Ignorant says:

      Again, you’re critiquing a cartoon made for children and holding it to the standards of adult fare.

      • TUD says:

        No one is going to listen for the “it’s for kids” argument. That never excuses poor quality.

        • American_Ignorant says:

          Oh no, people will listen to it. You won’t. Others here won’t, because you expect the show to cater to grown ups when it’s created for children.

          Feel free to feel butthurt about everything in the show you consider to be “Poor quality” when there’s a perfectly logical explanation as to why the deficits in its story telling exist.

          I don’t really care. I love the show, and forgive when it offends my adult sensibilities because it’s a cartoon, for kids. So it just makes me laugh to see people come here irate and have angry words over production and story quality of a kids cartoon.

          It’s on a children’s network. Not ABC. Not Netflix. Not HBO. A channel that I’m going to guess none of you watch any other programming on. Because that programming is for children. Just like this one is.

          • TUD says:

            Therefore, it’s okay if the story-telling is shit great to know. Batman TAS was for kids. The Clone Wars was for kids. Rebels has no excuses, even you want to make ones up.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Batman TAS was for kids, yes. And the nature of the cartoon was dark and the individuals in charge of it pushed the boundaries of what they could put on a KIDS CARTOON. There’s all sorts of interviews with them discussing how hard it was to try to put adult content into a KIDS CARTOON. Because that’s what it was. And it still had its own limitations because it was also a 23 minute children’s after school cartoon. It was ham strung as well, you’re just looking at it through nostalgia goggles.

            Clone Wars had epic Cartoon Kid trash through out the entire series. The advantage Clone Wars has over Rebels is the story arcs they used frequently. So 23 minutes turn into 46 minutes or an hour. For whatever reason, they’ve decided to space out the arcs from season to season instead of placing them back to back. It’s a weakness, but you know who’s not complaining? The kids whom the show was made for.

            Rebels is a children’s cartoon on a children’s cartoon network. It’s not made up. It’s fact. Thanks for playing, bro.

          • TUD says:

            Steven Universe, Regular Show, and Adventure Time are ALSO kids’ cartoons. As are Phineas and Ferb and Gravity Falls. There are plenty of kids’ cartoons, old and new, that manage to entertain children while also maintaining a certain standard of quality. So thank YOU for playing, but you’re quite bad at this game.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            What standard of quality do you speak of that those shows maintain that Rebels does not? They’re all going to suffer from the exact same thing. The difference is it’s much more obvious with Rebels, which expands the narrative of an IP as enormous as Star Wars. Thus you don’t take notice because you see those for what they are. Cartoons.

            You’re still judging Rebels by a different set of standards.

            C’mon TUD. You’re better than this. And really, stop up voting yourself.

          • TUD says:

            No, I’m not judging rebels by a different set of standards. I would appreciate if you wouldn’t tell me what standards I am setting, when only I truly have that knowledge. The other shows, when attempting to carry on overarching plot threads, give focus and care to their narratives, where as rebels seems to be determined to be as meandering as possible. Scooby Doo: Mystery INC. is another example of a cartoon that managed to entertain adults and kids alike, while simultaneously weaving a very intricate story. And no, I’m not “better than that”. you should have the maturity to realize that other people hold opinions that differ from yours. your opinions aren’t facts, and you’re not being betrayed by other people simply because we do not share them. I mean this in the nicest of ways: get over yourself.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I’m fine. Not even mad. Just smiling through your anger about how this children’s cartoon isn’t living up to your adult expectations. Maybe you should write a letter to Disney XD. Express your frustration directly with the networks executives.

            I can’t debate you on most of the cartoons you’ve listed as compared to Rebels as I haven’t seen them. I have caught some episodes of Adventure Time however and I’m amused at your suggestion of structured story and intricate weaving.

            Be angry. Doesn’t do anything but create posts like this.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Its really sad you have such low expectations.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            For a cartoon intended for an audience of 10-14 year olds? My expectations are set at the appropriate level.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            yes. very low.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            There you go. You can learn.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            You cant apparently. People should have higher expectations for star wars.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Which is why you’re but Thurs. See?

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Nice editing. I liked it better when you said “but Thurs.”

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Auto correct has a lot in common with you.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Hillary lost.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            This isn’t the place for political discussion.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Not a discussion, just a fact: hillary lost.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            This isn’t the place for political discussion.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            You always did have trouble with facts.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            So, who were those three “most adult writers” who haven’t written for Rebels yet?

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Look it up yourself. I’d give you the names, but you’d just reply with some nonsense. No thanks!

            How about that proof that Rebels can’t get better?

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I already looked it up myself. So why don’t you tell me which of the three names you were referring to?

            Rebels could get better. It’s not going to change if they haven’t made any adjustments by season 3. Clones was adjusted by Season 2. With Rebels, they’ve more or less doubled down on every aspect of the show for it to continue.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            “Rebels could get better. It’s not going to change if they haven’t made any adjustments by season 3”

            Again, an OPINION, not proof.

            Clone Wars season 2 (with the exception of a couple of episodes) was pretty bad… it didn’t get better until season 3 as a whole.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            It is an opinion, but you haven’t any evidence to back up that it will change now that it’s gone three seasons in the exact same way it has since its launch.

            It will be cancelled before its format is changed. It’s gone three seasons, been successful enough to add additional episodes each season, and they tell their story and develop characters and bring in canon cameos as they always have.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            No one can provide for certain that Rebels will or won’t change because no one has seen the rest of season 3… or season 4. However, my “evidence” is that Clone Wars improved, and many shows with a devoted fan base do based on feedback from viewers.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Season 3 is on course to be exactly the same as 2 & 1. Yes, I know, Dave Filoni reads your posts. Clone Wars improved but earlier than Rebels has attempted…and it hasn’t.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Again we go in circles, its debatable that clone wars improved before season three.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            I never said it was going to change, ive already said i doubt it would many many times, i said it COULD change. Do you seriously not underatand the difference.

          • TUD says:

            Be smarmy and condescending. It doesn’t make anyone take you any more seriously. Not that we did before.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Here I thought we were friends.

            You have an opinion. You posted it on a discussion site. I countered your point with simple facts. You’re now frothing at the mouth over it?

            Don’t like me? Block me. Join the ranks of CrankyMcCrankPants. Doesn’t bother me in the least.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Lol pretty soon youll be talking to yourself. Your facts may be facts to you but to everyone else they are opinions..

          • American_Ignorant says:

            So the show isn’t on a Disney channel intended for youths age 10-14? Are you disputing that? Also that it’s an animated series? On a network designed for ages 10-14? Are you disputing that?

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Im disputing your opinion that its “just a kids show” and should be taken as is, without criticism.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Again. Cartoon on a kids cartoon network. Please dispute the color of the sky next.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Ok. Ever hear of a sunrise or sunset?

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Yes, I have. I hear they happen every morning and evening. What is your point?

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Sorry if you cant figure it out.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            The sky is still blue, the color changes due to a scattering of particles.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            The sky changes color. Its a fact, which you have trouble with.

            I guess you havent realized the fact that hillary lost either? Maybe thats why youre so much more sassy up in here than usual.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            The particles that give the sky its color change based on how they scatter at sunset and sunrise.

            Your failed baiting attempts are adorable.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Lol the sky changes color thats a fact.

            Just like its a fact hillary and by extension you lost

          • American_Ignorant says:

            This isn’t the place for political discussion.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Then I guess you should change your avatar and name.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I don’t discuss it.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            We’ve already proven that’s not exactly true is it? 😉

          • American_Ignorant says:

            You haven’t proven anything.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Can’t deny the truth, Hilly.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I never said it’s just a kids show. I said the reason it doesn’t meet your adult expectations is that it is a cartoon made for children. They do throw us grown ups a bone or two but the majority of the show is setup to entertain children ages 10 to 14. Once you can accept that you can stop being angry about it.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            There is no way you are a grown up. No way.

            And once again, that doesn’t mean it can’t be better. When you grown up maybe you’ll understand what that means.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I’m the one who isn’t acting like a grown up?

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Yes.

          • TUD says:

            K. Your description is a lie by the way.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            You’ve started to act like one.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Well, you already are one since you can’t grasp the point of this forum.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Yes, it’s to discuss things without allowing the conversation to degenerate to the point you’ve tried to make it.

            You have an opinion.

            I have an opinion.

            You don’t seem to be able to handle it that someone has an opinion counter to yours.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            I dont care about your opinion all i am sayibg is the show can ve vetter and your keep saying its a kids ahow as if that is an excuse. As if “kids” shows cant be better. TUD gave you examples, not that he should have to, of great animated shows and your response was i didnt see those so im just going to keep posting my flawed opinion that this show is just a show from kids so dont expect it to be better as if its fact.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Yes, TUD gave examples. And as I have already pointed out to you, all that you’ve done in this conversation is attempt to troll me by saying “YEAH, WHAT HE SAID” which you just did again.

            You’ve contributed nothing to this.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            What’s your point… you never contribute anything. I’m guessing in life, either, by the way you hang out on here all day replying to me.

            Btw, you can’t troll a troll.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Actually, that’s what I do.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Hang out here all day? You do know youre a troll right?

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I troll trolls. That’s what I do. I don’t hang out here all day. I stop in to see if I have messages and respond to them. Will continue to do so, too.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Knock yourself out. Ill just keep calling you out for being a troll.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I wish you were one; since you’re not, it just makes this entire affair quite sad.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Im glad we agree on that. Nice to see you own up finally.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            To not being able to let go a grudge from the last time we spoke? Yes. I think it’s funny you attempted to pass yourself off as someone else.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Hey, you’re the one that keeps bringing up past discussion you can’t let go of. I guess if I got bitch slapped as hard as you did I probably would to. Ouch, now THAT’S funny!

          • American_Ignorant says:

            The only thing you’ve proven is that you’re incapable of participating in an adult argument or upsetting me with your childish antics.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Clearly, you’re upset. Clearly, I’ve beaten you to the point you have to dismiss the whole conversation as childish.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Not upset. You haven’t beaten me at anything but being more immature. It would be stupid of me to say that this whole pursuit hasn’t been childish, even on my part.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Lol his other favorite defense is “youre better than this” when the its just a kids show doesnt work out. What a loser.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            “YEAH! WHAT YOU SAID! GETT’M SPIKE!”

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Lol. Look at you literally seeking out old posts of mine and replying. You can’t not respond to everything I write, can you? That’s awesome.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I think so too. But, again, this is you ganging up on someone with nothing to add except YEAH YOU WHAT YOU SAID

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            At least i have something to add.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Nothing meaningful or substantive.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Wow two replies to one of my posts. Why give you the names when you wil just dispute the facts anyway.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Sorry, there are just so many replies sometimes I might double up. Don’t worry, I’m not going anywhere.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Actually you haven’t added anything, except a straight up denial that the children’s cartoon is a children’s cartoon. At least with me. However, with someone else you did admit exactly what it was. What about those three writers, have names for me yet?

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            He doesnt know what hes talking about. He is so blinded by his love for the show it makes me “giggle.”

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I love the show, yes. But it has substantial flaws. I just don’t whine about them in a comment section online because I know why those flaws exist. It’s a children’s cartoon.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            No you only whine at the people who post their thoughts in a forum entitled “what do you think” about the episode. Its not what do you think about the comments. You bitch about people criticizing the show aftrr 3 years, what about you moaning about the comments after three years? At least the former is in the right thread.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            It’s a discussion forum. You post here, you expect responses. No one makes you reply to what I said. You don’t even have to read it. You continue to engage me and now you’ve resorted to using juvenile insults in an attempt to incite my ire and have me sink to your level.

            Isn’t going to happen. I never whined once; someone else was whining, I posted a reason as to why the show is the way it is, and then was attacked by people who disagree who decided I was condescending, whining, and trolling because I provided facts to back up my statement and opinion?

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Do you even read half the stuff you write? Youve already been told to be nice because your an insulting a hole. So big of one you think its normal to talk like this, clearly.

            Btw if you engage me then thats YOU continuing to engage me. Cant have your cake and eat it to.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            You just can’t let it go. Also you’re the only one hurling childish insults. Who isn’t being nice?

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Dude youve already been called out by other people for both of those things. Nice try though.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Other people. Which other people? Who was I hurling childish insults at? Please verify your accusation with copy pastes from this thread.

            I’ll be waiting.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Why because youre too stupid to scroll up? Why dont you go ask TUD and Grand admiral. Its not good when someone so young develops early alzheimers.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Duxx likes me just fine. We disagree, we move on. TUD and I get along too, but he has a burr up his butt about this topic. Maybe he blocked me, that’s his decision.

            So you have one other person who was angry at me, and may or may not have done something about it.

            And again, no insults were hurled. A discussion was had. Something you’re incapable of sustaining.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            youre making yourself look a lot worse than i could at this point so thank you. It reminds me of the way hillary destoryed her own reputation before she too lost.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            No one is actually reading this anymore. It’s just you and me at this point. And I disagree entirely, you look a lot worse.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Says the guy who keeps repeating things i already said days ago.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Yes. There isn’t anything more to say other than present the same facts over and over again until you start to change your argument, like you always do, and still consider yourself a winner of a debate that has no point.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            And yet you keep engaging despite that I have constantly proved you wrong over and over and over and given hard facts while you whine and cry all day. Love it!

          • American_Ignorant says:

            You haven’t proven anything wrong. You just state you have.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            And you just keep stating I haven’t. But we both know that’s not true. Just like we both know now matter how many times you claim to have facts and evidence you come up short… and then quickly try and change the subject. LOL.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            No, you haven’t proven anything. The one chance you have had to prove something you refuse to find out which three writers are the ones who were most adult that left? Funny thing is, your claim indicates you knew who they were. Yet you you obviously don’t.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Hey, keep saying it and denying it all you want, but I already proved it several times over. Why should I keep posting the proof when you just keep denying it.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Other person. And he called me out for acting like something, not using words to insult people. And the writing is literally on the digital wall. You’re the only one using name calling as a means to try to one up me. Sad. Bigly.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I won’t deny continuing to engage you. I find it entertaining to see you repeatedly try to have the last word.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            And yet you keep you cried when i didnt reply to one of your posts. Ik fact theres several ive ignored but you have yet to ignore one of mine. Hmmm

          • American_Ignorant says:

            You’ve ignored the post you asked for. Which is to have me, a fan of the show, be able to point out its flaws instead of outright defending it.

            Troll on, I’ll be here to reply.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Unlike you not all of us are so willing to accept a flawed product.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Then remain angry at something that will not change and state your frustrations in a forum where those who can effect the change you want cannot hear you.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Not even going to get into it with you on that subject since you can’t prove it, but the point of the forum, once again, is to tell what you think about it. Clearly you don’t like that… so GTFO if it bothers you so much. Not that hard.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Yes, and I’ve told you what I think about it. And I addressed your complaints. And now you’re insisting I need to leave because I don’t agree with you. Mature.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            I said you should leave because youre in the wrong forum. And you didnt “address” my complaints nor did i or anyone actually come here to have you “address” our complaints. What are you the star wars rebels police?

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I’ve addressed everything you’ve said, repeatedly. You just won’t give as you’ve been bested. Over and over again. And some one doesn’t like that.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            You’ve addressed nothing. You’ve proven, however, that you’re a tool.

            Speaking of not liking something. How about that election? 🙂

          • American_Ignorant says:

            My goodness, you’re going to deny days and days and days of posts where I address everything you’ve said. Yes, I am not shocked you voted for Trump, either. You’re exactly the kind of intellect that would.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            In what alternate reality do you live in where you have addressed anything. Ive had to constantly correct you. But yeah Im enjoying the fact that you are stewing in rage and defeat that clinton lost. No wonder you are on here trying to argue with everyone. I guess it makes you feel like you have some worth and can make a difference after such a huge defeat. Im not surprised you backed the losing candidate.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            You have not corrected me at all. You haven’t provided evidence for any of your claims, nor facts to try and support your opinions. Instead, you tell me I’m wrong, I’m stupid, and I should leave. That’s basically the broken record you’ve been.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            I schooled you like the american people schooled hillary.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            You’ve done no such thing. But it’s cute that you think you have; actually I know you’re aware of how badly you’re being beaten down in our non-discussion. Which is why you keep replying. Having the last word is the only way you believe you can “win” now.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            I beat you down like the american people beat down your convict in chief.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Broken. Record. And this isn’t the place for political discussion.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            I trumped you like the donald bested your hero.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            This isn’t the place for political discussion.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            It’s so easy with you. You can’t not reply to me. i love it!

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I could, I choose not to.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Sure, kid, keep telling yourself that. You’re obsessed with me. I love it!

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Oh, no. Not obsessed. Proving you to be ineffective.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Obsessed. Love it!

          • American_Ignorant says:

            You’ve stated your opinions as if they were fact and told me I was wrong after I addressed your complaints. I have addressed everything you’ve thrown at me. You know this. You haven’t responded to those posts in a way that would have created a discussion. Instead, again, you simply call me names, tell me to leave, that I am wrong and you are right, and now are trying again to upset me by drawing me into a political discourse which I will not enter on these forums. It’s inappropriate.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Your accusations mean mean nothing because anyone who reads the post know the truth and know that youre wrong. But of course no one is reading or caring what you have to say anymore. And no matter how many times you keep saying youve addressed this or that it doesnt make it true. Sad that you probably think so, though.

            And awwww someone butthurt the american people didnt like their precious hero?

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Again, you’re making these broad generalizations about what the truth is and how I am wrong. You’ve never engaged in a conversation and provided evidence or facts to back up your arguments. You just declare you are right, I am wrong, and that you’ve won something from your endless posts filled with short, poorly thought out repetitive rebuttals.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            hey dont take it out on us because hillary lost.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Such a one note tune. This isn’t the place for political discussion.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Yeah but you lost too. Any denying the existince of things doesnt help.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            No one is denying anything. This is a place to discuss Star Wars, not politics. For all the election crap that has been going on for well over a year now you’re one of the few people who’ve decided to bring it up in any discussions on these forums.

            It shows the sort of man you will one day grow up to be.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Ohhh, now you’re dropping the insult I used on you, what, like a week ago? LOL. You just can’t come up with anything original or creative, can you? No wonder you think Rebels is the greatest TV show ever.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            No insult here? Just a very astute observation.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            That you copied from me. Good one!

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I believe you stated there was no way I could be an adult in order to upset me. Which, obviously didn’t work.

            I made the same insinuation with my comment, yes, but it is warranted. Given, you know, what you’re doing here.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            A copycat is still a copy cat. Try and come up with something original. Granted, you haven’t so far… i guess by your logic you never will!

            Clearly, even though I really wasn’t trying, I’ve upset you. I have honestly never seen someone cry so hard that someone would “attack” their favorite cartoon. it’s really pathetic if in fact you are a grown man.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Yes, yes. Name calling, check. Delusions of grandeur. Check. Trying to change the narrative of the ah, discussion, he’s having. Check.

            Yeap. Just another Whedon post. Let me move on to the next.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Even if any of that were true (for which you have already been called out on those) at least i can keep my points straight.

          • Grand_Admiral_Dux says:

            if its a part of canon, its fair game no matter who its aimed at. that’s the deal that came with that decision.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            It is apart of canon. Unfortunately you’re going to get substandard plots due to the nature of the medium they’re telling these canon stories in.

            I know in hind sight everyone is like “OMG BUT CLONE WARS WAS AMAZING!”

            It was. But it also was a cartoon, that had a lot of cartoony episodes (Please see ANYTHING with Jar Jar Binks or the arc involving C-3P0 and R2-D2 having various adventures that reflect classic children’s stories like Gulliver’s Travels) that were absolute trash. And yes, those are canon too.

            Like I said. You can complain about it, it just appears really silly when grown men are pouting over a cartoon made for children not being adult enough for them.

          • Grand_Admiral_Dux says:

            If you truly believe that, why are you even in these threads? Besides trolling people that do like this show…

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I like the show. Read harder. It helps with comprehension. Squint if you have to.

            My point is that when people criticize the flaws that are a direct result of it being a children’s cartoon, and do so incessantly, I’m going to point it out and giggle.

          • Grand_Admiral_Dux says:

            Play nice pls.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I am being nice. Don’t be obtuse. Also, I know you love Rebels. Confuses me as to why you’re here backing up TUD. He despises it.

          • Grand_Admiral_Dux says:

            i’m backing him to be able to express his opinion. i remember how it was before when people used the “its just for kids” argument with prequels and the clone wars film. it was only through a strong negative reaction from the fans that the films and tv shows got better.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            He can express his opinion. I can express mine to counter it. I didn’t tell him to SHUT UP or NEVER SAY THAT AGAIN or to GO AWAY YOU DON’T COUNT I explained why the show is the way it is. And it’s pretty darn obvious. Kind of like the sky being blue when you look up at it.

            Blue.

            Not Green.

            A children’s cartoon on a children’s cartoon network.

            Not an adult animated series on a children’s cartoon network with a time slot that purposely caters and markets to adults who enjoy watching that sort of fare.

            I’ll keep repeating it if you like.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Yeah saturday night at 930… all the kids are up watching this show. Oh youre so wise tell us more.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            10 to 14 son.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            your IQ?

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Age range the show is intended for.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Your iq.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Not maybe. Fact. Look it up. 🙂

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            I don’t need to look it up, I know you have a low IQ.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            It’s cute you resort to “I know what you are but what am I?” But it isn’t expected with your maturity level displayed here.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            It’s cute that you can’t address my post.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I’ve addressed all of your posts. Repeatedly. You know this. It’s still going not going to frustrate me to type again, that I’ve done what you’ve asked.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Ok, what I meant to say is that, yes, you replied to all of my posts. But as far as actually making a point or offering any concrete support to justify making anything you say more than an odd opinion at best, no… that you haven’t done. And not admitting it isn’t going to help.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I never said Rebels would get better..You’re changing it, again. Like always I said it might. But probably not, since they continue to stay the course now halfway into the third season and the rest of it is already mapped out and in production. It is what it’s going to be.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Dude you cant even keep your “arguments” straight anymore. I think youve had enough for today.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Star Wars Rebels. 8+.

            Clone Wars season six was released on Netflix unfinished. The show itself was released on Cartoon Network..Which, you may be surprised to learn, is a children’s network. It did have a later time slot but it was not apart of Adult Swim.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            I’m not taking about the show itself. I’m talking about season six. Did it or did it not air on Netflix?

          • American_Ignorant says:

            It did. But the show started on Cartoon Network and was cancelled before season six was released. It released on Netflix because Netflix was able to obtain the rights to stream it. It wasn’t made for Netflix, what was finished was published on Netflix.

            Next.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            So it did air on netflix then? Thank you. I love being right.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Its sad (and funny) that you get so upset about people critizing something. The points are all valid… no one is saying the show needs to go super dark, but we already know from clone wars it can be better and thats all anyone wants. Again, if you have a problem with people discussing the episode, dont come into a comments section dedicated to doing so. Thats just stupid.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I offered you a lengthy post of discussion you’ve failed to rely too. Also, you’re the one who is insisting my opinion is invalid and I should leave.

            Pot. Kettle. Get to know one another.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Everything about you is invalid. As far as leaving, yeah, because this isnt the harass everyone who criticizes your favorite show forum .

            and nobody here seems to like you.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Who elected you supreme decider of all things valid?

            I don’t come here to make friends.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Love the defeated response “oh no people will listed to it!” And then the butthurt “i dont care i love the show.”

          • American_Ignorant says:

            You should probably take the time to READ what I’m posting. Because your comment makes no sense.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            You need to take your own advice and stop crying like a little girl every time someone critisizes the show. And dont blame me because you dont understand my comment… thats a flaw in your intellectual capacity.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I don’t cry. Nor do I speak with everyone who criticizes the show. In fact, I didn’t even engage you to begin with. You just jumped in to be the guy who says “YEAH, WHAT HE SAID” after every time someone else who has something of substance to offer to this conversation posts.

            Sad, really.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            I guess when i see someone commenting like an idiot i feel the need to point it out to them. You seem like a smug prick who probably doesnt realize it.

            Good to know youve been checking my posts, btw. I really havent given yours a second thought.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            You have replied to every one of mine without fail. Still calling names. Facts can and do hurt.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Yeah everyone here is wrong but you.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Never said that, either.

        • Kill Kanan now says:

          Exactly. Its such a week argument to just excuse anything the show does and try and minimize very valid concerns. It isnt simply a kids show – its part of continuity. Legos is a kids show… not part of continuity… so no one cares. But since this show is part of canon it should be held to higher standard. Personally i wish it wasnt part of canon, but i guess LFL knows no one would watch it.

          Also, regarding a “kids show” what does that even mean anyway. Sometimes this show feels like its for 5 year olds… is that a kids show? Or should it be for 12 year olds? Why cant it be a good show that appeals to kids and the kids in all of us.

          “Its just a kids show” is what i hear from defenders who cant explain the shows problems.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            It’s a part of continuity, yet it’s a children’s cartoon. Disney, obviously, does not care.

            There are new books that are young adult novels that are now all a part of canon. Some of them were good, most of them were not. Yet there they are. Canon. And shocker, they were made for children, not adults.

            And obviously the show does appeal to the kid in a lot of adults, since a lot of adults still watch it. The problem here on SWNN is we have adults complaining the kids show isn’t adult enough for them. Thus, I point out why the flaws in the show exist. They simply don’t have to correct them, because children don’t care and are still watching it. For the same reason the people who come here and hate on it watch it after 3 years of complaining.

            STAR WARS.

            What’s wrong with the show?

            It doesn’t always fit well with existing Star Wars continuity.

            Initially I was alright with an adult Padawan finding a new Force sensitive running about, but now that Kanan and Ezra are sort of beating ass at a full on Jedi level WHILE fighting for the Rebellion begs the question why everyone was so amazed with Luke who never did anything as cool as Kanan and Ezra now do on a regular basis.

            The Inquisitors were pretty damn cool, and now I feel like they’ve backed off them entirely without ever giving us more story on them. They had hinted through out season 1 & 2 that the Empire was finding Force sensitive children and kidnapping them. Most likely to break and train into Inquisitors, and to kill if they didn’t turn to the Dark Side and kneel to the Emperor.

            This seemed interesting and plausible; I know many complain that THERE ARE ONLY TWO SITH OMGZLKJDFLDK. That’s true. But Inquisitor’s are not Sith, they’re Dark Side adepts. What more it explains what Palpatine was trying to do keep new Force users from popping up all over. Jedi Order dead and gone or not, he can’t keep Force sensitive from being born across the entire galaxy. It makes sense that he was hunting them down, turning them into tools, or murdering them out of existence. This story line now seems dead as all four Inquisitor’s introduced. And swept under the rug quickly by giving us Thrawn which the fanboys creamed their shorts over and forgot about a potential lost narrative.

            They gave us Thrawn YAY! They gave Thrawn a stupid emotional tic will be the narrative tool used to best him at the end of the season. He has a temper. Stupid.

            The B-Wing with a super laser.

            Giving us a fake out ending for Vader and Ahsoka.

            Anakin had an eyebrow an flawless skin exposed from the broken mask. Wha?

            All of the Ghost’s crew is pretty likable but they’re pretty two dimensional except for Kanan and sometimes Ezra.

            I miss serial episodes. I miss getting an hour of a singular story with three episodes in a row forming an arc. The arcs are still there, but they’re broken up over seasons or broken up within the season itself.

            Note that Rebels tends to introduce something in one episode, then use it again later to further the narrative.

            The asteroid base in season 1 with the..Fearnocks, whatever they called them. Introduced with Hera and Sabine, later used with Kanan and Ezra.

            The Super Commando episode we just had was a direct follow up to the Protectors of Concorde Dawn. You could have literally ran those two episodes back to back and had an arc. Now, it’s just broken up.

            I don’t like that. It does work, but it feels less cohesive.

            I have tons more, yet I love the show. To me it’s this sort of alternate Star Wars fantasy that doesn’t really take place in canon. Obviously, it does, but since Disney hasn’t REALLY connected things like Rebels to the movies yet I don’t have a problem with keeping the mindset I currently have.

            All of my adult friends watch Rebels and love it too, we talk about its flaws but we accept them and enjoy the show.

            There you go Kanan. I am a defender of the show that can explain problems I have with it. Not that I believe for a moment you read this entire post.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Is this the post you wanted me to reply to? Yeah, I’m not reading all this. Besides, no one is holding the show to adult fare. They are holding it to good tv, “kids” or otherwise. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Actually there are people who are holding it to the exact standards I’ve described. They’re even adults. They’re even adults who discuss it in video on the internet who agree with my sentiment exactly.

            It makes sense you won’t actually engage me on a topic that you asked for; what I think is wrong with the show. I explained it. You’re refusing to read it. Because you’re a troll. Funny how that works. But you were an easy to pick out.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Ssys the guy who lives under the bridge. Ill read it later maybe.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            No, you won’t. But that just strengthens my argument and point.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            It must make you so mad when i wont engage with you.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            No, doesn’t make me mad at all. Just proves me correct.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            But you are.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Not on every comment like you. And then when i ignore you you cry about it. Can i ask are you a girl or a boy?

          • American_Ignorant says:

            What about those three writers that were the most adult that haven’t participated in Rebels? Did you find those names for me yet?

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Check the credits yourself.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            I did. Then you made something up, and I called you on it, and this is the very first time you’ve even addressed it. So, going to prove me wrong with actual facts or just continue to make things up?

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            You didn’t check hard enough then. I’d give you the names, but you’d just make up some BS opinion about them not being good writers or not creating great episodes and then try and pass it off as fact. No thanks.

            Speaking of facts, you said something about Rebels not being able to get better simply because we are 2 seasons into it?

          • American_Ignorant says:

            So you actually have no idea who those three writers are, do you? And you won’t even take the time to look up IMDB to support your non-argument. Which is, by the way, not only a sure sign that you’re making things up and lying through your teeth, but that you’re wrong.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            I know. It’s sad you don’t and you claim this is your favorite show ever. LMAO.

            What was that about Rebels never being able to get better, oh great physic.

          • American_Ignorant says:

            Yes, physic. The unstoppable Force. You do know you’re spelling that word wrong, right? I never said it wasn’t able to get better. I said it’s not going to change from the path its currently on.

          • Kill Kanan now says:

            Wow youre now just babbling on incoherently.

    • Carberry says:

      Isn’t Star Wars full of moments with good guys making slim getaways? ESB is a great example.

      • NYJD21 says:

        And the Falcon’s escape in ANH. And Luke & Leia swinging off Jabba’s barge, and Qui-Gon jumping away from Maul on Tatooine, and the Rescue by the Clones, and escaping the elevator on Grevious’s ship……

        People forget that SW is based on serialized action adventure films and radio dramas, which were full of cliffhangers and rescues and escapes. It’s the whole point lol

        • Carberry says:

          Exactly, and in a way it’s what we’ve come to expect. While I enjoy other aspects of the films and other media, it’s almost a let down if there isn’t some kind of scene that gets intense and has our heroes narrowly escaping.

    • NYJD21 says:

      Did you know who Sabine’s mother was and what situation Sabine’s mother is in? Nope.

      Did you know the relationship the Empire had with the Mandalorians? Nope.

      Did the Rebels gain a credible ally that wasn’t credible before?? Yes.

      ???

  4. SkulShurtugalTCG says:

    Is A New Hope gonna show up with a link for us non-XD-owners?

  5. Matthew Williamson says:

    was that the outrider?

  6. Dion says:

    I feel like I’ve missed something big, can someone please explain it. How did the Mandolorians get from the pacifist world it was in the Clone Wars where the only warriors were the Death Watch, to this supposedly war torn society thats dissolved into fighting factions.

    • American_Ignorant says:

      There was supposed to be resolution of the ongoing story line in the Clone Wars that incorporated Mandalore sliding down to where it is in this episode. It was a threat to Sidious so he had the world torn apart politically to nullify its revisits tan even to his rule while still being able to recruit and train its finest soldiers for Imperial use.

      • Dion says:

        Thanks for that. Would have been nice if they had actually filled in that info before showing us a complete new society. The new canon is supposed to have fixed those old continuity problems.

        • TUD says:

          It’s not a continuity problem per se, it’s a problem with the fact that the creators of The Clone Wars didn’t get a chance to tell a pretty important story.

        • American_Ignorant says:

          Well, it’s a “Clone Wars was cancelled” problem. The Clone Wars is what gave us the canonical background of the Mandalorians that now exists. The show ended before their lengthy arc involving Mandalore was finished.

        • NYJD21 says:

          The Ashoka novel imparts some of the story via Ahsoka’s remembrance.

      • American_Ignorant says:

        I don’t usually do this, reply to my own messages, but I happened to reread after someone had responded to me and realized what a giant nerd I am.

  7. Robert says:

    I thought this was a pretty awesome episode. I think this show is starting to really hit it’s stride like it took the Clone Wars a few seasons to get it’s bearings straight. I also always enjoy when they make references to old star wars things like the original concept fett armour because it’s not like they’re bad designs, and now they can actually serve a purpose in canon rather than being forgotten as a “what could have been”.

    • Kill Kanan now says:

      For me a lot of the concept art was passed over for a reason.

      • Robert says:

        Well it totally makes sense that it was passed over in the movies, the movie can’t be 24 hours long because you want to use up every design, just choosing ones that fit with that specific story. Now that we have other stories, other concepts have their chance to shine, just like unused concepts for the Knights of Ren became an inquisitor. May not fit in there, but totally fits in here

        • Kill Kanan now says:

          I agree, some works, especially with PT trilogy, but some of the OT stuff, like the early droid and Chewie concepts that became Chopper and Zeb, they were early designs that Lucas rejected in favor of the finished and superior final design.

          • Robert says:

            That’s totally fair, I remember when I first saw those original chewbacca sketches and thought they were ugly as #$@&, but I didn’t actually realize Zed was based off of them until an episode or two in because somebody mentioned it, the way they pulled it off in the animated space looked different and pleasing to me for some reason. Maybe i just let it off because I like the character now XD

  8. Tinve Rill says:

    I wish they stopped with these stand-alone episodes and started moving the main story line (Ezra-Maul-Dark Side) already!

  9. TUD says:

    While appreciate character development, I think this show needs to get back on track and stop with the repetitive and seemingly inconsequential episodes. They only have 22 minutes (now every OTHER week instead of every week) to tell a story, so they should stop wasting their time and give the important stuff some room to breathe.

  10. Spartacus111 says:

    Lucious Vorenus and Titus Pullo in the same episode! WOW !!!! Best ever!!!! I will rejoice my entire life for this!!

    ROME was the masterpiece HBO F-ed up.

  11. Ludovic Vinsonneau says:

    i loved how Ezra force-pushed the blaster rifle to make miss Saxon. A clever little detail.

  12. Kill Kanan now says:

    Fenn was okay. I felt like we have already seen this episode before though… it had very familiar themes. How many times can they do the “bad guy ends up joining the rebellion episode?”
    I also cant take sabine seriously with her grrrrl power look. And i had more trouble than usual believing the rebels would send sabine and ezra – two kids – out alone on this mission.
    Does anyone doubt katee sackhoffs character is sabines mom?
    I dont know… the locations all seem the same each week but with a different colored sky.
    This show just doesnt work for me. I didnt even watch it live this week. Its frustrating because it could have been so good.

    I did like the chase scene with ezra surfing on chopper through the air, though.

  13. Viral Hide says:

    @ByWhedonsLisp:disqus

    @american_ignorant:disqus
    If you two don’t stop with this endless quarrel I will start deleting every post between the two of you. This is beyond ridiculous now. Hundreds of comments trying to prove nothing. You better take this discussion somewhere else.