Rogue One Will Have A Different Opening Without the Traditional Star Wars Crawl!


A few days ago, we happened to have a conversation with someone in the know about certain aspects of Rogue One. While we were talking about the typical Star Wars opening crawls, the source (whom we consider to be extremely credible) revealed to us that Rogue One actually opens in a way “different than the classic Star Wars films”…



The evidence has been clear for some time now that Rogue One will not be a “regular” Star Wars movie. People involved with the project have discussed many times already that they are taking a different approach with it, so it may not even be that much of a surprise to Star Wars fans that Rogue One will lack the traditional opening that we associate with the saga films (Episodes I-IX).




You may recall that back in mid July, ET got an exclusive scoop straight from Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy and director Gareth Edwards wherein Kennedy mentioned that they wanted the film to have a different feel compared to the saga films:


“You know, we’re in the midst of talking about it, but I don’t think these films will have an opening crawl,” Kennedy said of the possibility that Rogue One would include the familiar Star Wars trope. “I think that’s what we kind of telegraphed at the beginning of the event today.”


Edwards spoke about the differences between Rogue One and the other films but added his thoughts on the crawl as well. Edwards said:


“I think basically there’s a lot of things that I probably can’t talk about, is probably the safest way to answer that,” he joked. “The idea is this film is supposed to be different than the saga films…the whole crawl of it all — it’s funny people are fascinated on that.”




So,as you can see, Kennedy and Edwards have dropped some heavy hints about the possibility that Rogue One might not use the traditional Star Wars crawl (although by that time they still hadn’t made the final decision on whether or not to use it). However, after our conversation yesterday, we are fully confident that we won’t see the crawl in Rogue One. Our source was crystal clear that the film “does not” use the traditional Star Wars crawl and that the film’s introduction of the story to the audience differs from the classic films in the series.



Tell us your thoughts in the comments below. Do you approve the decision to drop the crawl from Rogue One?



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277 thoughts on “Rogue One Will Have A Different Opening Without the Traditional Star Wars Crawl!

  • November 3, 2016 at 7:03 pm

    This sounds sacrilegious, but is probably the best way to get it through people’s brains that this isn’t Episode VIII.

    • November 3, 2016 at 7:10 pm

      Yeah I’ll miss the crawl, but can understand the choice.

    • November 4, 2016 at 7:50 pm

      I can live without the crawl, but I suppose it’s not going to have the ‘Star Wars’ theme music which is going to seem a tad weird.

      • November 6, 2016 at 5:24 pm

        I’m honestly excited/interested to see what a new composer can bring to the saga. I love Williams, but something more modern may be super awesome. Or terrible.

  • November 3, 2016 at 7:06 pm

    I think the crawl would be a good way to lay out the story and setting, but I’m sure they have something else in mind that would do the job equally well. I’m not worried.

  • November 3, 2016 at 7:17 pm

    The crawl should start out saying “THIS IS NOT EPISODE VIII.”

    • November 3, 2016 at 7:23 pm

      My only regret is that I only have 1 upvote to give.

      • November 3, 2016 at 7:29 pm

        Thanks to your comment, I can at least give 2 upvotes and make them both mean the same thing.

        • November 3, 2016 at 9:11 pm

          Second that!

      • November 3, 2016 at 11:46 pm

        I think Donald Trump has been suggesting people upvote twice.

        • November 4, 2016 at 1:07 am

          No, it’s leftists who are registering the dead and convicted felons to vote.

          • November 4, 2016 at 1:28 am

            Ummm…I don’t know who these *leftists* are (source?), but Trump did make those comments.

            With a name like onetruth, you’d think one wouldn’t have a problem with the truth.

          • November 4, 2016 at 2:30 am

            Pretty smug in your lack-of-sense-of-humor.
            I replied with something *topical* that’s in the news….you drag it down into some bizarre left-field (pun not intended) rambling about “lefties”.

            I’d not expect anything better from a Trump’ette.

          • November 4, 2016 at 2:32 am

            Oh yeah, something topical in the news that you failed to cite. You’re getting more brilliant by the post, lol.

          • November 4, 2016 at 2:41 am

            Re: “topical in the news that you failed to cite”
            Ummm… google is your friend.
            Or are you (lying) & saying you hadn’t heard about that?

            Re: “more brilliant by the post, lol”
            Yeah & you’re *brilliant* masterpiece of post literature:
            — No, it’s leftists who are registering the dead and convicted felons to upvote. —
            Don’t quit your day job.
            And – quit “lol’ing” yourself, you’ll go blind doing that.

          • November 4, 2016 at 2:45 am

            LOL! So, because I haven’t heard of something that someone allegedly said and that you (still) haven’t cited, I’m lying? You really are a genius, aren’t you?

            Feel free to back it up your generic statement with a source like I did above. The burden is on you to disprove your bs, it’s not on me to google it. Otherwise I’ll just keep laughing at your ineptitude, lol.

          • November 4, 2016 at 2:50 am

            Does mommy chew your food for you too?

            Seriously un-truth, learn to use the google.
            the enter “trump tells voters vote twice”.
            Do that & tell me you don’t get dozens of results.

            I’m not gonna chew & spit it in your mouth for you or you’ll never learn how to do this.
            “Teach a man to fish”…and all that.

            lol. LOL, LoL, lOL…LOL! (?!)

          • November 4, 2016 at 2:50 am

            Yep, like I said. You still don’t have a source, lol.

          • November 4, 2016 at 2:54 am

            Ok un-truth,
            So you’re lazy or just not so good with the google.

            You wrote:
            — No, it’s leftists who are registering the dead and convicted felons to upvote. —
            I realize that you’re “thinking with your gut” here – truthiness (ftw).
            Please cite your source.

            As for Trump suggesting to vote again:

            Now I’m not gonna keep helping you. Learn the google like an adult. Lol!

          • November 4, 2016 at 2:56 am

            “I realize that you’re “thinking with your gut” here – truthiness (ftw).
            Please cite your source.”

            Ah, so you completely ignored the source I listed several posts ago. Gotcha! While you’re googling, google logical fallacy.

          • November 4, 2016 at 2:52 am

            Could we talk about Star Wars instead, maybe?

          • November 4, 2016 at 2:53 am

            Cool with me. I’m kind of enjoying Doug going mental trying to insult me, though.

          • November 4, 2016 at 2:55 am

            Re: “Could we talk about Star Wars instead”
            I’d much rather, but onetruth’s first going to provide sources to the claim:
            — No, it’s leftists who are registering the dead and convicted felons to upvote. —

          • November 4, 2016 at 2:57 am

            Dude I posted the source half an hour ago, above. Are you blind as well as stupid? lol

            Let this be a lesson to you. Don’t bring politics into a SW discussion unless you’re prepared for other people to correct your mistakes.

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:06 am

            Dude, you’re lying!

            You did NOT provide a source to your claim.
            From what you cited:
            Whether these deceased individuals were truly registered with the intent
            of using their names to “vote for Hillary Clinton” is as yet

            There’s also no mention of Leftist or any such.

            Let this be a lesson – YOU drag politics into this & you get educated.

            I made a topical joke & you dragged it down like some sad little misinformed troll waiting to pounce. You post a link that doesn’t say what you claim it says.

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:10 am

            “whether these deceased individuals were truly registered with the intent of using their names”

            You just blew up your own argument, lol. The individuals were in fact deceased. They were in fact registered to vote while being deceased. They were in fact registered by a Virginia democrat.

            Now, whatever the intentions were, I cannot say. But as I said in my original post, leftists (a Virginia democrat) did in fact register dead people to vote. Period. And as I said in the my original post, Snopes is just one source. There are others.

            I can tell you’re not a lawyer with such epic fails of reading comprehension, lol.

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:16 am

            Quit lol’ing yourself …it’s disturbing.
            Then again, with your lack of sense of humor I suppose I should be shocked you’re lol’ing at all. Much less, all by your lonesome.

            Re: “You just blew up your own argument”
            WTF?! Are you for real. You seriously have reading comprehension issues.

            You wrote (ugh…hate repeating your words):
            “it’s leftists who are registering the dead and convicted felons to upvote”
            There’s no mention of “leftists”.
            There’s no mention of intention to vote (as you implied with upvote).
            Seriously, you can’t just starting making stuff up that you WANT to be there.
            More Truthiness, eh?

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:18 am

            “there’s no mention of leftists” LOL!!!!

            Do you know what a Democrat is? Let me help you out. It’s an American political party famous for its left of center politics. Democrats are commonly referred to as leftists.

            Are you not from America? If so, I can understand your ignorance about the word leftist. If you are American, our educational system is even worse than I suspected.

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:25 am

            Re: “Are you not from America? If so, I can understand your ignorance about the word leftist”
            I’m Canadian.

            Now, know you ARE it’s much more understandable that you’d think you OWN some monopoly on an English word that’s used around the world.
            Oh….and that it DOESN’T mean, what you *think* it means.
            [ no matter how hard you wish it does – Truthiness! ]

            Sorry but that’s another un-truth you’re spouting there onetruth.

            So now that we’ve cleared up you’re statement & claim was wrong.
            Have you had time yet to read all those (big foreboding) words & learn that Trump encouraged voters to vote a 2nd time? [ or watch video of him in case the reading is too hard? ]

            Oh yeah… & besides your *imaginary* intent voting cited, Trump supporters have ACTUALLY voted twice at his urging (example source):

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:27 am

            Lolololol. Dude thank you, you are the funniest poster I’ve seen in a while.

            Just to sum up: leftists did in fact register dead people to vote. You’ll never be a lawyer.

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:31 am

            lol’ing yourself again – tsk tsk.

            Just to sum it up:
            You make “Trumped up” claims – I quote you from the site that shows you were wrong
            Your (false) claims were in response to my factual claim – you fail to respond to

            Lesson here – my OP was accurate. You didn’t like it, as the truth hurts onetruth. So you responded with falsehoods.
            Oh yeah… and your reading comprehension needs much improvement.

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:34 am

            LOL! Should probably rename yourself DelusionalP. And again, leftists did in fact register people to vote. Please, deny it again, lololol.

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:44 am

            lolololololololololol – what, are you like 12?

            Quit making things up. You said “registered”…”to vote”, I cited the article which says there’s not proof of intent…then you go back on that & say you don’t know intent (wiggle little worm).
            Then you dodge more, asking for citations about Trump telling people to vote twice & I provided source… & fail to respond to that.
            Then you try to re-define Leftists (from your Trumperica-centric interpretation) to re-explain yourself.


            Oh yeah… & demonstrated from the get-go you have no sense of humor….aside from LoL,LOL,lolololol, lOL,lol’ing yourself.
            Q: so are you gonna vote twice like Trump advised?
            Be careful…people are already being charged with following his “vote rigging” rants.
            Again – another source:

            You don’t want to have your mugshot like this Trump supporter plastered on the internet – be careful out there!


          • November 4, 2016 at 3:51 am

            There you go again, lol! I haven’t redefined leftists. By your own admission, you had no idea what the term meant in the context of American politics or culture.

            Omg, you are adorable. I just want to pinch your ignorant little cheeks! lol

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:59 am

            Re: “Omg, you are adorable. I just want to pinch your ignorant little cheeks! ”
            Yeah…& am sure as a Trump’et you’d want to do the pinching w/o consent – no thanks!

            Re: “you had no idea what the term meant in the context of American politics or culture”
            Ummm… by your lack of reading comprehension you came to that conclusion.

            You didn’t say “a leftist, as only referred to in America meaning a Democrat, registered”…now did you?
            Without some explanation or qualifiers on your ‘Murica-centric language, what your wrote would NOT be understood by most English speaking readers.

            So you’re claiming that if you asked a MAJORITY of Americans – “What is a Leftist?” their answer would be “A Democrat”?
            I call BS! Cite your source that a majority of Americans understand Leftist to be synonymous with Democrat.
            Even if is IS the case – you were clear in your statement.

            So….back to the topic at hand. What upset you so much it seems. Trump telling voters to vote twice. And now with his “election rigging” talk having people arrested for doing so. THAT was the topical point I was making a joke about…but, we understand you’re lacking in sense of humour (besides lol’ing yourself) & apparently don’t read/watch/listen to news to have seen this reported.

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:01 am

            “So you’re claiming that if you asked a MAJORITY of Americans – “What is a Leftist?” their answer would be “A Democrat”?
            I call BS!”

            I’m sure you also call BS when people say that 2+2=4. Doesn’t make it any less true, lol.

            But dude don’t misunderstand, I’m not upset at all. Trump’s got the election in the bag. And this entire convo has made me laugh pretty hard, lol.

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:11 am

            Re: “I’m sure you also call BS when people say that 2+2=4”
            Yeah.. but that’s not what I did, now is it?
            lolol….LOL! LoL!
            No, I asked you to cite a source which backs up your claim.
            [ Note: I’ll not be holding my breath on that ]

            Re: “Trump’s got the election in the bag”
            Come on….nobody reading your rambling rants & defensive posts about Trump would believe that.
            Again, this back&forth started with a topical, humorous post about “voting twice” because it was in the news about Trump…and you start rambling & making wild claims & re-defining the English language.
            Nah….I think you’re just a wee bit scared.

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:14 am

            I am scared that your level of stupid might infect the gene pool one day. Beyond that, though, nah. I’m just wildly entertained, so thank you again!

            And hey, if you label your post “topical” and “humorous” enough times, maybe it will actually be true, lol.

            Oh and just for the record, you are claiming that American democrats are not leftists! And that leftists did not in fact register dead people to vote.

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:24 am

            Re: “And hey, if you label your post “topical” and “humorous””
            Nah, brah – it’s only YOU who wouldn’t/didn’t get it was topical & humorous.
            Then again, I’d not expect a Trump’ette to be informed of actual (topical) news going on. All that reading & educating oneself & stuff.

            Also, it’s so cute, you remind me of Trump from the debates:
            “I know your are but what am I”
            Kind of responses you’ve posted.
            Did you learn that from Trump? Or your 5yo buddies from school-days?

            Re: “I’m just wildly entertained”
            Yeah, we saw you wildly entertaining yourself –
            LOL,lolololol. lOL. Lol. LOL! ‘ing the thread away…

            At least while you’re doing this, we know you’re not out doing something dangerous – like voting.

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:26 am

            No that was you dude, lol. My lols were all you! Btw, tell me more about reading and educating oneself when all your *cough* sources are from the same side of the fence. Vice, MSNBC, etc, all hardcore leftists.

            And I know, you don’t understand what leftist means, hahahaha. Regardless, wow, my stomach hurts from laughing lol.

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:39 am

            Re: “No that was you dude, lol. My lols were all you! ”
            Look, I get your reading comprehension issues when it comes to other people’s writings. Big/complex words or sentences might be tough for you.
            What I DON’T get is not understanding your OWN writing.

            You’ve been LOL’ing to YOURSELF this entire exchange. LOL’ing to your OWN incoherent/rambling comments.
            See? That’s the problem I’ve had with that.
            “LOL” is (by a healthy, normal person) a *response* to something they heard/read from someone else. NOT what they do to something they’ve said/written themselves. I mean….that’s just pathetic/sad.

            Re: “when all your *cough* sources ”
            Again, I realize that reading & educating yourself is probably not a top priority for you.
            But, before you embarrass yourself further to anyone who might read this exchange…you need to know that most people can use “the google”.
            As I tried to teach you to do with step-by-step instructions already, searching “trump tells voters to vote twice” will yield dozens of respectful news sources (or what you’ll undoubtedly call “leftist”).
            What about the Trump supporter just arrested for “voting twice” because of Trump’s warnings/advice?
            More conspiracy? Those Leftist cops arresting her?!
            Seriously…. you are delusion if you think EVERYONE in the news/media/law enforcement is a “leftist” out to get Trump.
            Quit drinking the koolaid, it’ll kill you!

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:42 am

            “you are delusion if you think EVERYONE in the news/media/law enforcement is a “leftist” out to get Trump.”

            Where did I say that? Oh right, I didn’t, you just put those words in my mouth like I said earlier, lol. What I said was that the sources you quoted, Vice and MSNBC, are hardcore leftists. Do you understand the difference between “Vice and MSNBC are leftists” and “EVERYONE in the news/media/law enforcement is a leftist?”

            Come on. At least try to make sense.

            Also, bro, please. If you’re going to instruct me in English, at least proofread your own posts. You’ve made so many grammatical errors that I can’t even count them all. Just above, it should be “you are delusion[al],” not delusion. I’ve been letting your sixth grade grasp of English slide, but if you really want to go there with me, we can.

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:50 am

            Re: “If you’re going to instruct me in English”
            We’ve already established English isn’t your 1st language, it’s ‘Murican …apparently sprinkled with modern Trumpian speak.

            Typos –
            Please – I save proof reading for:
            1) written business correspondence
            2) online correspondence with someone I have respect for
            You fall into exactly *neither* of those categories.
            So are you saying some typo I made rendered a sentence incomprehensible?

            Re: “Where did I say that?”
            Ummm… in your post I was replying to?
            You dismissed those *cough* (remember that part?!) sources as “leftist” in defence of your guy.
            I provided source showing Trump supporter arrested ( = law enforcement! ) for “voting twice” – you also managed to continue avoiding commenting on, as you did with each & every source I provided.
            Again, dismissing these, implying leftist.
            I get it – you believe Trump, “everything’s rigged”.

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:53 am

            “I get it – you believe Trump, “everything’s rigged”.”


            No, you don’t get it at all. I never said that. I simply commented on the inarguable left-leaning bias of Vice and MSNBC. You made an illogical leap from what I said to “everything’s rigged.”

            And I’m glad you save your real English skills for when it matters. That said, telling someone else that they’re reading comprehension is bad whilst writing on a sixth grade level is the height of hypocrisy.

          • November 4, 2016 at 5:09 am

            Re: “I simply commented on the inarguable left-leaning bias of Vice and MSNBC. ”
            Are you THAT thick, suffer from reading comprehension…or are just doing mental gymnastics ?

            No, we had discussed *sources* & your lack of commenting on them. So your response was “*cough*” & then dismissing them as “leftist”, obviously implying they were false/unreliable (apparently why you never responded/commented on). We weren’t discussing whether news source X was biased/left or right leaning – you’d asked for sources after I’d asked for sources.
            I commented on yours, you cowered & refused to respond to mind….hiding behind *cough* & then pretending you weren’t implying they were WRONG (false) but instead just injecting commentary on their left-leaning’ness.
            It’s not an “illogical leap”:
            1) Trump & his followers “go to” answer for his losing in the polls = “it’s rigged”
            2) Trump supporter (you) are faced with facts you don’t want to comment on…so you dismiss them as *cough* “left leaning”
            If it quacks like a duck….it’s a “it’s rigged” Trump’eter.

            Ducking & dodging like Trump again.

            Re: “telling someone else that they’re reading comprehension is bad whilst writing on a sixth grade level is the height of hypocrisy.”
            Hypocrisy – I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
            Reading comprehension is very different than a typographical error (unless such err had lead to comprehension mistake, which isn’t the case here).
            The irony of you writing this – that you’ve demonstrated your inability to comprehend the English language & your retort seems to be: “yeah, but it’s at sixth grade level”.

            I’ll endeavour to write at a 1st grade level in the future in this thread, in hopes that we can reach your level of reading comprehension.


          • November 4, 2016 at 5:13 am

            Don’t endeavor too hard, you’ll strain yourself and you’ve been steadily dropping from sixth grade to first grade with each successive wall of ignobabble text anyway, lol.

            And again, you come in with the “it’s rigged” stuff and you even make another wild leap to polls. I never said anything was rigged. You completely pulled that out of the dark recesses of your own mind/buttcrack, which seem to be one and the same.

            As far as “facts I don’t want to comment on,” bro you’ll have to give me some facts first. Thus far you’ve spent a couple of hours vomiting emotions and logic-free (sixth-grade) prose in my general direction, lol.

          • November 4, 2016 at 5:30 am

            Re: “and you even make another wild leap to polls.”
            Dude, you are SO all over the place.
            You were the one who brought-up your confidence Trump would win.
            That’s why I countered with the polls.
            I mean, POLLS are what will predict who will win.
            Sorry, I realize that science & math is probably also something you fear…being a Trump supporter who confident claims he’ll win.

            Re: “bro you’ll have to give me some facts first”
            I did. I provided multiple sources backing up my original topical joke about Trump telling people to vote twice. I also provided source to a supporter who took Trump up on his “it’s rigged” mantra & voted twice ….& was arrested because of it.
            So – I asked you for a source, you provided, I commented.
            You asked me for source, I provided, you went silent. Well…after being pressed on the topic you said “*cough* leftist media” to dismiss it. [ hehe… kind’a like the Trump supporters regurgitating the “it’s rigged by leftist media” BS he bloviates ]

            Thus far you’ve spent a couple of hours dodging/weaving/distracting/ranting ( “Oh, a Canadian gonna edumacate dis Trumpeter?! Dant think sa, bro!” )… Instead of responding to the original topic at hand.
            I wrote a joke about the topical (yes – see definition, this is major in the news) subject of “voting twice”, in response to a post about “(up)voting again”.
            You asked for my sources, cast doubt on them *cough*, & have had PLENTY of time to find your own (there are dozens, use google).
            Your silence on this topic speaks volumes.

          • November 4, 2016 at 5:35 am

            Silence on what? Lol. You keep saying that like it makes sense, and I keep directing you to my original post which simply states that leftists did in fact register dead people to vote.

            You haven’t refuted that, because it’s not refutable! The rest of this thread is just a series of me following you as you jump through one illogical rabbit hole after another.

            There have been some great ones, I particularly enjoyed the bit where you swore up and down that American democrats are not leftists (LOL!) and then stamped your precious little feet demanding that I provide an academic citation of what is, frankly, common sense to anyone who has actually stepped over the Canadian border.

            At this point, it’s a drinking game. Every time you say “topical” or “your silence speaks volumes” or “my humorous post” I laugh my arse off, lol.

          • November 4, 2016 at 5:52 am

            Re: “I particularly enjoyed the bit where you swore up and down that American democrats are not leftists (LOL!)”
            Ok…Now I’m genuinely worried about you.
            Are you off your meds or something?
            You can’t just write something here, repeating what YOU WROTE earlier & now try to attribute it to ME. And then LOL to yourself about quoting yourself.
            Seriously, I’m concerned about your mental health with that one.

            Re: “leftists did in fact register dead people to vote”

            1) No leftists mentioned – we’re going round in circles here. Educating you on the “Queen’s English” & what leftist means. [ or – again, cite your sources ]

            2) “register” …”to vote” – again, more circles. You’re circling the drain, I’m afraid. “to vote” implies intent. I quoted you the article which states that it’s not known if there’s intent. Also, it’s still under investigation.

            Re: “I keep directing you to my original post”
            I keep directing you to MY original post (which you were replying to), as well my response with sources you requested.

            Your crickets’ chirps are deafening!
            “Vote once, vote often!”, eh?

          • November 4, 2016 at 6:00 am

            Uh oh, the concern troll! That point in any internet fight where one party realizes the game is up and he’s got nothing, lol. Thank you, though, truly. It means so much to me that you’re concerned for my welfare!

            So you’re denying that you said on multiple occasions that American democrats are not leftists? Just to be clear before I go and copy/paste (assuming you’re not frantically editing right now, lol).

          • November 4, 2016 at 6:14 am

            Re: “So you’re denying that you said on multiple occasions that American democrats are not leftists? ”
            Correct, I never said “American democrats are not leftists”.
            I said Leftists does not equate to “Democrat”.
            I questioned you on this & suggested that I’d venture ~”If you asked a majority of Americans what is a Leftist, if their answer would be Democrat”.
            I asked you to cite some source which demonstrates a majority of Americans equate Leftist as Democrat.
            You rambled something about “water is wet” & worm-wiggled away on the topic.

            Re: “Uh oh, the concern troll”
            Well, I pointed out that when someone starts quoting themselves, statements they made, and then attributing them to the person they’re arguing with …something is not going well. Mental issues or logic/memory issues? I don’t know which. But your missing your meds, due to being involved in ~hours long discussion, is not out of the question.

            Re: “assuming you’re not frantically editing right now”
            Sounds like some true-Trump-level paranoia.
            Adjust your tinfoil to because Hillary might be upping the power level of her social-justice-warrior-femm-nazi rays too!
            But… yeah, I never edit posts after writing them. Unless it’s immediately & no one has responded.
            Unlike you, I don’t call out some typo, as in a conversational flow (fast typing) this should be expected. Typos rarely render a sentence incomprehensible.

          • November 4, 2016 at 6:18 am

            No, they just make it hilarious when the typotard calls out someone else for alleged reading comprehension and/or English skills, lol.

            “I said Leftists does not equate to “Democrat”.” And that is one of many errors that you have made in this fair thread!

            As for SJW femnazi rays, I hate to break it to you, seeing as you’re Canadian and all, but feminism and its short bus cousin SJWism are dead on the vine here in “Murica.” You guys will soon follow suit, and then maybe I’ll even be able to set foot in Toronto again without throwing up in my mouth a little!

          • November 4, 2016 at 6:33 am

            Re: “I said Leftists does not equate to “Democrat” that is one of many errors”

            Ummm… again, WTF?! How is that an “error”, it’s TRUE?
            Up is Down in Trump-land?

            Re: “typotard calls out someone else for alleged reading comprehension and/or English skills, lol.”
            We’ve already covered that “reading comprehension” & “writing a typo” are vastly different things.
            And…again, I ask you to point out what sentence of mine was completely misunderstood / incomprehensible due to some *typo*?
            [more crickets….]
            “typotard” “skills, lol”
            Yeah….there’s us some dang-gummit guud ‘Murican English skills. Writing a nonsensical word & ending your sentences with “, lol”.
            Don’t quit your day job to become an English teacher.

            Re: “maybe I’ll even be able to set foot in Toronto again”
            Please don’t. Really, sincerely, please don’t.
            We’d rather our southern yokel cousins stayed in the south.
            I’ve been pitching to build a souther border wall for years now, to keep the economic refugees from invading our fair country.
            See – **building a southern wall is something we can agree upon!
            [ **Note: Let that be a happy end to this ‘debate’, as I find you so very boring & tiresome that I’m sleepy now. ]

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:17 am

            Don’t try to dodge this now & change what you said.
            “register”…”to” – that IS intent.
            Ugh – learn English.

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:19 am

            I’m not dodging anything, lol. You have destroyed your own argument so completely that I don’t have to say anything else and can just laugh repeatedly! And then you topped that off by saying that there was no mention of leftists, hahaha.

            I think you must be trolling me because no one can really be this dumb.

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:28 am

            You’re completely dodging.
            You imply intent, then claim you don’t know if there’s intent, you claim “leftists” when this isn’t in article.
            And…more importantly, you further dodge the OP topic – Trump telling his voters to vote 2nd time & more-so important that they actually HAVE voted twice.

            Must hurt to fail so bad at this.

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:39 am


            Dude just because you don’t know what the term leftist means in America (even after I explained it to you) doesn’t mean that I’m “dodging.” It means you’re ignorant. And as all of your posts have so aptly demonstrated, you’re willfully ignorant because you persist in your delusions even when people point out something that you obviously got wrong, lol.

            And again, leftists registered dead people to vote. Did Trump?


          • November 4, 2016 at 3:51 am

            Re: “Dude just because you don’t know what the term leftist means in America ”
            When your up over your head, stop digging – you won’t get out!
            You don’t get to define what leftist means.
            You most definitely don’t OWN the English language (spoken like a truly arrogant ‘Murica Trump’etter).

            Your going to sprain your brain with these mental gymnastics.

            Again, Trump told people to vote twice.
            Q: Did Hillary?
            A: Nope
            Oops…. that’s embarrassing for you, now isn’t it?!

            Maybe you can use this Trump-supporter-who-voted-twice mugshot as your Avatar?
            Tagline: “I voted! (twice)”

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:54 am

            Who said anything about Hillary? Certainly not me. That’s one of the things I’ve enjoyed so much about this convo, you just jump from one inane thing to the next, putting words in my mouth and utterly failing to see where you funked up, lol.

            You’re right about one thing: I haven’t defined the term leftist. It was clearly and inarguably defined long before I came along. But please, keep denying it, because I can’t stop laughing!

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:06 am

            Seriously, are you THAT dense & that lacking in your ability to read & comprehend English?
            Is that ‘Murican too?

            You wrote:
            “And again, leftists registered dead people to vote. Did Trump?”
            So I wrote back a “Did Hillary” question. Exactly what YOU did.
            I turned the table & question back at your, using the same language.

            Is English really your 1st language? Because your reading & comprehension level is quite laughable. lol

            It’s funny you saying I put words in your mouth. Is that what you call it when someone QUOTES you? Or someone corrects you?
            Is that ‘Murican ? Or just Trumpian kind’a talk?
            I’ll admit that I’m not 100% up on either. And don’t care to be.

            So you keep dodging the original topic.
            You asked me for sources (apparently can’t use google) & I provided multiple.
            What are your thoughts on Trump telling people to vote twice & now supporter being arrested for that activity?

            I’d not be surprised if you posting on this site stops after the officials catch you – following Trump’s advise/other supporters.

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:09 am

            “I’ll admit that I’m not 100% up on either.”

            Oh trust me, bro, we know, lol.

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:18 am

            You missed the important part:
            “And don’t care to be.”

            I’ll leave it to you yokels to speak Murican & Trumpian to one another.

            Fortunately they don’t speak it where I live & won’t be introducing it into my country’s English curriculum, bro!

            Oh yeah – so still waiting on:
            1) cite credible source which shows “majority of Americans equate Leftist with Democrat”
            2) your response to the Trump suggests voting twice (& arrest because of this)
            Imagine it’ll be a long wait….

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:25 am

            “Oh yeah – so still waiting on:
            1) cite credible source which shows “majority of Americans equate Leftist with Democrat”
            2) your response to the Trump suggests voting twice (& arrest because of this)
            Imagine it’ll be a long wait….”

            1) Would you also like me to cite a credible source stating that water is wet? I get it, it’s beyond your comprehension. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t true, lol.
            2) What response are you waiting on here? All I said in my original post was that leftists have registered dead people to vote. And you’ve failed to prove otherwise through many thousands of words now, lol.

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:31 am

            Re: “But that doesn’t mean it isn’t true”
            Imagining something or believe it because Trump told you in a dream doesn’t mean it’s true either.
            So – source please? Of stfu – coz you made that up to cover your mistake.
            Re: “All I said in my original post was that leftists”
            What does your original post have to do with this?
            I asked you for sources, you asked me.
            Well….you showed me yours & I showed you mine.
            I commented on your source, disputing it.
            Then you rambled on & on & dodged & swerved & side-tracked… & still haven’t responded to my (multiple!) sources.
            Your silence is very telling here.

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:33 am

            “Imagining something or believe it because Trump told you in a dream doesn’t mean it’s true either.
            So – source please? Of stfu – coz you made that up to cover your mistake.”

            Wait wait, my mistake in saying that American democrats are leftists?

            That is what you’re claiming? Just so we’re clear. In the world according to DougP, American democrats aren’t leftists! Lol.

            And yes, you commented on my source. And you did dispute it. But you didn’t disprove it. In fact you made a statement that blew up your entire argument, as I’ve already outlined, lol. You can’t win, Darth.

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:44 am

            You spin/avoid/pivot & flip-flop faster than Trump.
            Is it dizzying living in your world?!

            “Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to Trump”

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:46 am

            Ah yes, educate me on Trump, Mr. Canada, lol.

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:53 am

            Re: “educate me”
            Excellent – now we’re getting somewhere!

            Education is the 1st step to unburdening yourself of this ignorance.

            Just let me know where you’d like to start / what you’d like to know.
            Don’t be afraid to keep asking questions & seeking the *actual* truth, onetruth – knowledge is your friend!

          • November 4, 2016 at 4:55 am

            Aww, but I thought you were my friend?

            But please, educate me on Trump. Start off however you’d like. It’s a blank slate. I eagerly await the many pearls of wisdom surely forthcoming as a result of your vast and worldly experience!

          • November 4, 2016 at 5:16 am

            Re: “does all your Trumpian knowledge come from Vice and MSNBC?”
            That’s funny because I don’t get my news from either of those sources.

          • November 4, 2016 at 5:17 am

            Umm, but you linked them as your sources earlier in this thread? Lol. DougP’s logic, folks, you can’t make this stuff up.

            But quit stalling, bro. I thought you were going to educate me?

          • November 4, 2016 at 5:42 am

            Re: “Umm, but you linked them as your sources earlier in this thread? Lol”
            I’d told you earlier:
            1) I’d read about this & seen on many sources
            2) That you could use google to find sources
            3) I did a new search (“live” to our discussion) & referenced that you’d find dozens
            4) You appeared to inept at using “the google”, so I searched & picked the top couple
            How in your twisted little (under-developed?) mind does providing you with a quick search, 1st found, reference (i.e. doing your search for you) … ever equate to “I get my news from”.

            Re: “logic, folks, you can’t make this stuff up”
            Logic – W.T.F. ?!
            Logic – I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
            Seriously, the two things just discussed:
            1) = asked for sources, I said I’d search for you & provided some (of dozens I’d mentioned)
            2) = you implied that Vice & MSNBC is where I get my knowledge from, so I told you that I don’t get my news from those sites
            What in that erratic Trump-poisoned little brain of yours translates EITHER of those 2 items into “DougP’s logic”.
            What was the logical exercise?

            Also, please, PLEASE stop ending / punctuating your sentences with “Lol”. It drags the entire internet down intelligence down with you.

            Quit stalling, bro – we want to hear your thoughts on the sources:
            1) Trump urging voters to vote twice
            2) Trump supporter being arrested after Trump’s claims of “it’s rigged” & his fear mongering
            Enlighten us! That was my OP, after all. You’ve still not chimed in on it.

          • November 4, 2016 at 5:50 am

            “I don’t think that word means what you think it means.” Dude, I know. We’ve already established that you don’t know the definition of basic words like leftism.

            I love how you’re just repeating me, though. I say quit stalling, you say quit stalling, lol. Amid all the ad-homs, of course. Brilliant!

            What thoughts would you like to hear about 1) Trump urging voters to vote twice? That he said it in jest? Surely you, as the king of comedy (“humorous,” remember?) can appreciate the inflection and the delivery in those vids where he says it. Or are you just being deliberately obtuse? And does Trump saying people should vote twice in any way invalidate the indisputable fact that leftists registered dead people to vote? Which was my OP. Rhetorical question, btw, don’t hurt yourself.

            And 2) some woman apparently got arrested and something’s “rigged” and whatever the funk else you managed to segue into? Lol. I’m not sure what I’m supposed to comment on there, you’re into another DougP rabbit hole where the laws of physics and logic need not apply.

            Finally, I will certainly stop punctuating my sentences with LOL when you stop making me laugh my arse off with your ignorance.


          • November 4, 2016 at 6:04 am

            Re: “We’ve already established that ”
            What we’ve established is your lack of reading comprehension makes a conversation challenging, you’re inclined to dodge & change the subject when confronted with something you don’t want to know, & you refuse to read sources cited (which you requested).

            It appears that you didn’t read the sources I provided, or else you’re being intentionally disingenuous in talking about Trump saying that “in jest”.
            His most recent urging was in no way “in jest”. Again, I suspect you probably know this & are instead referring back to a time when he was joking.


            Yeah…the woman voted twice because of what Trump told her to do.

            What we’ve established about Trump:
            1) He’s urged people to vote more than once – not just “in jest” (as you wrote) but in earnest, repeatedly
            2) Trump voter(s?) – cast multiple votes
            So…. you can at least admit here, that of the 2x cases discussed:
            1) Some student registered dead people to vote – with no demonstrated intent to try to *cast* votes
            2) A presidential candidate, Trump – urged voters to vote more than once [previously, possibly, in jest. recently in earnest] – rhetoric has resulting in at least one arrest for actually casting votes more than once
            That #2 is far, far worse.

          • November 4, 2016 at 6:08 am

            Oh, right, a leftist went to the trouble to register multiple (dead) people to vote, but he certainly had no intent of actually following through with it.

            Wow, dude. That’s dumb even for you, lol.

            As for number 2, given the fact that his opponent has been under one FBI investigation earlier this year, lied to the FBI under oath (i.e., perjury), and as of this week is currently under a second FBI investigation, no. I certainly can’t agree that Trump saying some words is “far, far worse.”

          • November 4, 2016 at 6:21 am

            Re: “went to the trouble to register multiple (dead) people to vote”
            Registering is a far cry from committing voter fraud at the booth – that comes with something like a 5yr sentence (as you’ll see your Trump supporter is facing). Hence, why actual voter fraud in a national election is so rare – so rare, actually, that you’re more likely to be struck by lightning.

            Re: “I certainly can’t agree that Trump saying some words is “far, far worse.””
            Ummm… again, think we’ve got some reading comprehension issues going on.
            The topic is corruption of the vote, yet you go rambling/ranting on about Hillary & the FBI.
            I compared the actions of a student, which did NOT result in illegal votes cast… to the actions of an actual presidential candidate whipping his voters into a frothing frenzy, suggesting they vote more than once, & his voter actually DOING it (leading to arrest).
            And….instead of your being to admit – yes, the latter is far worse….you rant & ramble about Hillary & the FBI & perjury &…&…. omg, are the drones coming for you? lol
            You sound both paranoid & delusional.

            The reality is – your candidate has been using language/making suggesting which can lead to federal criminal charges & people are being charged.
            Your response- “but, but Hillary! FBI!”.

          • November 4, 2016 at 6:27 am

            “And….instead of your being to admit ”

            What? What does that even mean?

            Your continual communication fails aside, yes, I get it. Nothing Trump says or does and nothing Hillary says or does can convince you of the absurdity of your position. It’s easier to simply label thinking people as delusional/paranoid/insert-ad-hom-here, lol.

            The reality is that the other candidate is literally under criminal investigation! Trump has been saying words. Hillary has been committing crimes, lol! But that’s ok with you!

          • November 4, 2016 at 6:41 am

            Re: “What? What does that even mean?”
            It means you intentionally left out what I wrote.
            You wrote a fragment.

            I wrote:
            “And….instead of your being to admit – yes, the latter is far worse….you rant & ramble about Hillary

            OMG – YES, I left the word “able”, as in “able to admit”, out.
            Your little brain couldn’t figure out what I meant?

            I’d venture very high 90-percentile native English speakers, with say a high-school level of education, would have understood what I meant.
            Or is this you being disingenuous again?

          • November 4, 2016 at 7:02 am

            Re: “simply label thinking people as delusional/paranoid/insert-ad-hom-here, lol”
            OMG – by your rationale, you can’t be a “thinking” person, because….har har…lol…. you wrote “ad-hom-here” & that’s not a word!
            I mean….gawd….what?! What did you mean?! I can’t understand it?! Ending your sentence in “, lol” just makes it incomprehensible!!

            Seriously, you’re like passive-aggressive. YOU start with the ad hominem attacks on me. Then turn to this “gasp & swoon…us gentle-soul ‘thinking people’ are under attack”. Give me a break.
            Passive-aggressive or bi-polar? Something along those lines.

            You have to realize that it DOES sound delusional/paranoid, so many of the comments you’ve made.
            Going from the topic of “what’s most dangerous voter fraud/behaviour” to “o.m.g….FBI, perjury!” What did those 2 things have to do with one another?
            Or … “o.m.g. dismiss your sources because *cough* leftist media”?

            Re: “Trump has been saying words. Hillary has been committing crimes”
            Now I’M the one LOL’ing. Recalling earlier your “who said anything about Hillary?!”
            Is that the sad little position you find yourself in? Confronted with what your guy says/does, the “answer” is to bring up Hillary?
            To return this to the topic at hand (voting), let’s just use your sentence & tweak it:
            “Trump has been saying words, which have led to people committing crimes”.
            Unless you can provide a source which demonstrates:
            1) Hillary encouraging her voters to potentially commit a felony
            2) Hillary supporters actually casting multiple votes
            Your candidate WINS, but not in the way you want, in the “supports & promotes voter fraud” department.

            Re: “Nothing Trump says or does and nothing Hillary says or does can convince you of the absurdity of your position”
            “absurdity of your position” – What position is that exactly, citing sources demonstrating your candidate’s potential calls to commit voter fraud & voters doing it?

            The funny thing here is – I have no skin in the game.
            I despise your Hillary & Trump, near equally.
            I say *despise* because I consider them BOTH incredibly dangerous, on the world stage.
            I said “near equally” because I believe they are BOTH dangerous in very different ways, so it would depend upon the topic/context.

            I pity American making the *choice* for your election.
            I fear you’d be better off if there was a “neither / do over” option, but understand that’s not how the system works.
            Very thankful for our leader & leadership, as well as a better form of government.

            So in closing – we both crave a southern border wall & feel our countries will be better off if we keep our dangerous neighbours to the south out of it.

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:09 am

            And sense reading doesn’t appear to be a strong point for you, I’ll chew & spit in your mouth one last time:
            [from example source I provided]
            “At a rally in Greely on Sunday, the Republican presidential nominee told voters to vote twice — once by mail and once in person”

            You could make it even easier just by listening to Trump’s own words in the countless videos put up showing him say this.

    • November 4, 2016 at 7:51 pm

      Right, but then it will include ‘Episode VIII’ in the crawl. That might make people think the title of episode 8 is ‘This is not’.

  • November 3, 2016 at 7:25 pm

    I think the crawl is quintessential Star Wars but I do understand the creative thinking that these films need to differentiate themselves from the Saga films. I am sure they are going to come up with a cool way to open it.

  • November 3, 2016 at 7:25 pm

    I’m sure during the first viewing it will be really weird not to have the opening crawl (and pan down from space I assume), but I’m sure I’ll be able to get over that really quick.

  • November 3, 2016 at 7:27 pm

    !..And thanks to this move it will make few hundred millions less….but thankgod for itotherwise I would be really confused that I don’t see Rey or Kylo Ren….

    • November 3, 2016 at 7:28 pm

      That’s fine, shallow idiots whining about something so small isn’t something I want to listen to in the theater.

  • November 3, 2016 at 7:35 pm

    I must be the only one that’s genuinely happy about this choice. An upbeat opening crawl panning to a gritty war film would be a jarring tonal shift.

    Besides, it’s not like it’s the first Star Wars project to lack the crawl. Why does every movie NEED it, anyways?

    • November 3, 2016 at 8:00 pm

      tradition? its been in a lot comics, books and games over the years in addition to the films.

      • November 3, 2016 at 8:38 pm

        Yeah, but those aren’t canon anymore. Sorry to burst people’s “headcanon” bubbles, but hoping that’s not true doesn’t make it not true. As far as canon media is concerned, it’s not in the Clone Wars series, nor the Rebels series. Not sure about the Marvel comics run or the new books.

        • November 3, 2016 at 8:42 pm

          its in the new books and comics. not saying it has to be here, just pointing it out.

          • November 3, 2016 at 9:38 pm

            And thank you for that, like I said, I didn’t know. =P

    • November 4, 2016 at 1:30 am

      Not the only one, lady. And you are right, the tv shows doesn’t have it (for the nature of being too short), but if I remember correctly every single videogame since Super Star Wars for Super Nintendo has it. It is something that defines Star Wars, separates it from the rest of the movies. It prepares you all these years to immerse into a large world…..I am no happy about this, but then I realized that there will be a movie about Han Solo and now I don’t think this to be an entirely bad idea. Eventually spin offs will be – at least to some – second category movies, and the inexistence of the opening crowl will only emphasize that.

  • November 3, 2016 at 7:39 pm

    Another question, do you think it opens with “A long time ago in a galaxy far far away?”

    • November 3, 2016 at 7:58 pm

      or since the crawl is gone if they’ll still have the opening fanfare and star wars logo or if they’ll redo the entire opening production.

  • November 3, 2016 at 7:42 pm


  • November 3, 2016 at 7:56 pm

    interesting, i wonder if they’ll substitute a voice over like clone wars had.

    • November 3, 2016 at 8:37 pm

      War. War never changes.

      • November 3, 2016 at 8:42 pm

        and there heroes on both sides. 😉

    • November 4, 2016 at 12:28 am

      I don’t know why I thought this at first, and it might not work, but if the movie intros into an imperial/rebel fight and has saw gerrera voicing over the carnage.

  • November 3, 2016 at 7:58 pm

    I think the crawl only fits with the main episodes. I just hope the music is good

  • November 3, 2016 at 8:19 pm

    Fine. Not really fussed either way. I think this may actually work better.

  • November 3, 2016 at 8:24 pm

    Good to hear. Always believed the spin-off’s should have their own identity. No crawl, different music, look and feel.

    • November 3, 2016 at 10:23 pm

      Why not remove stormtroopers, the Death Star, and Darth Vader while were at it. That would really give the movie it’s own identity.

      • November 3, 2016 at 11:44 pm

        Re: “Why not remove stormtroopers, the Death Star, and Darth Vader”
        I’m personally fine with watching a SW movie without:
        Death Star, Stormtroopers & Darth Vader

        It’s a BIG galaxy that could benefit from being bigger.

        • November 4, 2016 at 6:56 pm

          I didn’t know removing the crawl made the universe bigger. I’ll have to look into this…

          • November 5, 2016 at 12:54 am

            Who said anything about the crawl?
            I was responding to your suggestion of the impact of having a movie w/o Death Star, Stormtroopers & Darth Vader.
            That I’m fine with a SW movie without those things.
            That there’s plenty to mine from the existing films/lore, or better still – come up with entirely new.

      • November 4, 2016 at 12:45 am

        What? You mean like Episode I or II.

  • November 3, 2016 at 8:35 pm

    The text will move from up to down…lol

    • November 3, 2016 at 8:43 pm

      or is in a different color. 😉

    • November 3, 2016 at 8:55 pm

      Maybe with WingDings font??

      • November 3, 2016 at 8:56 pm

        Pfft. Amateur. Comic Sans.

  • November 3, 2016 at 8:47 pm

    “…someone in the know about certain aspects of Rogue One” Ask them how is the movie? Some spoilers?

  • November 3, 2016 at 8:53 pm


  • November 3, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    So… what kind of intro will RO use?

    • November 3, 2016 at 9:06 pm

      Hopefully not the instrumental equivalent of Bill Murray’s lounge singer version of the SW theme that they used in TCW.

  • November 3, 2016 at 9:03 pm

    Hope they’re watching The Office for best cold opens.

  • November 3, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    The purpose of these stand-alone films as I understand, is to let a new generation of directors put their stamp on the universe. To me, this means that everything from the opening ID’s, to the opening crawl, to the end credits are fair game to the filmmakers…as they should be. In addition, as fans, we should embrace this direction. Let creatives be creative. Let the films…stand-alone.

    • November 3, 2016 at 9:07 pm

      Ya lets just give Star Wars the opening of any other film franchise because its not important enough to remain a unique experience.

      • November 3, 2016 at 9:19 pm

        Re: “give Star Wars the opening of any other film franchise”
        So what are you saying – there’s no chance for originality or creativity?
        That if we give the directors of these separate films license to do what fits their creative vision – we’ll wind-up with a Marvel comic blast/scroll?

        • November 3, 2016 at 9:22 pm

          Between the credits is where a director’s vision and the originality of these films can be shown. And where it needs to be. These are still Star Wars films, and removing the crawl, regardless of the originality in between the credits makes it close to just another film franchise.

          That crawl is absolutely part of what makes Star Wars a unique film experience.

          • November 3, 2016 at 9:30 pm

            So unique that it took the crawl from Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers and Union Pacific.

          • November 3, 2016 at 9:42 pm

            THANK you. xD

          • November 3, 2016 at 9:54 pm

            We are all away of the inspiration for said crawl. I was referring to modern day franchises and how its unique to every other modern day summer blockbuster. The crawl is part of what makes it unique.

          • November 3, 2016 at 11:33 pm

            And now this will be unique among SW movies!!!

            Yayyyy for originality and uniqueness!

          • November 4, 2016 at 12:02 am

            Now the crawl will make the saga films unique.

          • November 5, 2016 at 10:41 pm

            That’s what the episode moniker already does. But yeah, lets keep the saga films unique while the rest of Star Wars becomes a normal everyday movie franchise. Makes sense.

          • November 5, 2016 at 11:03 pm


          • November 3, 2016 at 9:46 pm

            Re: “Between the credits is where a director’s vision and the originality of these films can be shown”

            To a degree, we can agree on this point – which is exactly why I think these SW “story” films, distinctly outside of the primary Skywalker-saga storyline, should be allowed to exercise their originality & show their vision.

            Re: “That crawl is absolutely part of what makes Star Wars a unique film experience.”

            Here’s where we disagree…

            I agree the crawl/opening fanfare is unique to SW, but feel that it can remain unique to the main Skywalker (episodes 1-9).

            After a point it becomes arbitrary WHAT is required to keep the stylistic opening.

            There was a time when the 20th Century Fox was part of it & every time we saw that we thought of SW.

            So what if you take away the SHIP flying over/into the frame next to a planet, is it still SW opening?

            Personally, I’m fine with them not using the same crawl as the main series. Actually prefer it as it’s a differentiator. Heck, same goes for music/opening fanfare.

            SW is big enough now, with the “Story” movies to embrace something new/different.

            And… my primary point was in response to your “opening of any other film franchise” – I mean this isn’t a binary world: 1) SW opening 2) ALL other film franchises
            I have faith in the directors/creators to come up with something interesting.

  • November 3, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    Meh. In other words, it will probably just open like any other blockbuster movie, in the same nondescript way. Are they ditching the SW Main Title theme as well?

    God forbid we take half a minute at the beginning of the picture to transport the audience to that familiar GFFA space that we’ve loved since we were kids. Sometimes, particularly where something like Star Wars is concerned, a Pavlovian response can be an incredibly positive thing. It’s a shame that LFL is in such a rush to “improve the brand” that they’re blithely shitcanning the fundamentals.

    • November 3, 2016 at 9:17 pm

      Re: “that we’ve loved since we were kids.”
      What about the audience that didn’t see these movies as kids?
      1st time Rogue One as SW movie in theatre?
      Of TFA was 1st?
      I mean the original SW came out almost 40 years ago – how long do they have to wait? ( until we’ve all died off? )

      Re: “blithely shitcanning the fundamentals”
      That sounds overly dramatic to me.
      I mean if an opening crawl/sequence is “fundamental” in whether it’s an amazing / great film or not…. we’ve got much bigger problems going with Rogue One.
      Much more important *fundamentals* to focus on getting right.

    • November 3, 2016 at 9:49 pm


      They way they’ve been going, I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if there are opening credits interspersed with battle footage while a Johnny Cash song is playing.


    • November 3, 2016 at 9:56 pm

      Ban me.

      • November 3, 2016 at 10:03 pm

        If you post another direct insult, you will be banned.

        • November 3, 2016 at 10:11 pm

          You might as well, I’m a crazy fucker. This isn’t my first tantrum and I can’t guarantee it’ll be my last.

        • November 3, 2016 at 11:41 pm

          Please do track this. Whilst I’d actually up-voted a single comment (sensible, not rude) from this person which I’d agreed with … we don’t need the “f*ck you” replies to someone they disagree with & trolling here.

          People like this really ruin internet dialogue.

    • November 3, 2016 at 10:12 pm

      This is the very sentiment that Lucas complained about and will keep us stuck in the past. Change, for lack of a better word, is good.

      • November 4, 2016 at 2:30 am

        No it isn’t. Change can be good or bad.

    • November 4, 2016 at 2:41 am

      Why are you whining like a 4 year-old about literally “half a minute at the beginning of the picture”?

      Maybe you should

      1. Wait, watch the movie, and judge it as a whole then,
      2. Realize that this is only happening for the Anthology films, not for the Saga films, and
      3. Calm the fuck down. Seriously, it’s not the end of the world.

  • November 3, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    I don’t like it. The crawl is part of the unique experience that makes it a Star Wars film. No other franchise does it. To abandon the uniqueness that a Star Wars film brings only makes it closer to where Star Wars is just another film franchise.

    • November 3, 2016 at 9:39 pm

      “no other franchise does it”? You realize that Lucas got the idea from the sci-fi serials of the 30s, right?

      • November 3, 2016 at 9:45 pm

        I figured people would realize I meant modern day film franchises. But of course not.

        Yes I I realize Lucas got the idea from the sci-fi serials. We are on a Star Wars fan site. Of course I and everyone here knows that.

        • November 3, 2016 at 9:46 pm

          Whatever. Shut up with your “pissed off fanboy” bullshit and wait for the fucking movie to come out before declaring your childhood dead.

          • November 3, 2016 at 9:50 pm

            Lol. Wow. Somebody got offended. Nowhere am I bitching about my childhood. Fuck my childhood. For a modern day film franchise Star Wars offers something no other modern day franchise has, an opening crawl. A uniqueness I wish they would preserve. That’s it. No need to be an asshole about what I like. I’m not being an asshole about what you want.

          • November 3, 2016 at 9:50 pm

            Fuck you.

          • November 3, 2016 at 9:51 pm

            Nice bait, I bit. No more.

          • November 3, 2016 at 9:51 pm

            Fuck you again.

          • November 4, 2016 at 1:20 am

            They cutting out the crows where they would introduce us to the story, while in episode 8 it will be something like “few seconnds ago we left Rey on AhTo and after few hours in the bacta tank Feen seems to fully recover….

    • November 3, 2016 at 9:39 pm

      Or perhaps they’ll do something that is unique and different specifically for the spin off films. Something that will carry over to all the other SW spin off films. There by making them distinctive from the main saga films.

      • November 3, 2016 at 9:59 pm

        Hopefully that is what they do. I worry we will eventually see it open credits and all like every other movie.

  • November 3, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    I am fine with them not using a crawl, saving that for the saga films and making the spin offs visually distinct. I just hope they do something to make the opening interesting and different than any other movie out there. Pull the audience in immediately and make it feel special.

    • November 3, 2016 at 10:24 pm

      So what’s the distinction when it’s used in other media such as video games?

      • November 4, 2016 at 12:21 am

        I think that’s always just been on the hands of the creator/director of those projects. The movies are all from the same brain trust. I’m sure if a game designer didn’t want a crawl or did, Lucas film would be cool with both.

  • November 3, 2016 at 9:17 pm

    Don’t care much about the crawl as long as the rest of the movie is awesome.

    • November 3, 2016 at 10:11 pm

      Pretty much. In the end, it’s ‘all’ about the story, not about the crawl (Even though it’s traditional for the main saga films).

      • November 5, 2016 at 5:57 am

        But the Star Wars Crawl has been present outside of the main saga films in video games.

  • November 3, 2016 at 9:21 pm

    If they still have the letters “STAR WARS” moving away from the camera and swiftly disappearing into space, it will feel a bit strange that there is not a Crawl following. But honestly it may not be a bad thing that they give the spin-off movies a somewhat distinct look and feel, emphasizing that they are not, indeed, parts of the central episodic “saga”. Perhaps they will also refrain from using wipes, a deliberate throw-back to the old serials that inspired Lucas.

    Heck, maybe we will even get through the entire movie without any character ever remarking, “I have bad feeling about this!”

  • November 3, 2016 at 9:30 pm

    For all you who think this movie will be a gritty war movie, WAKE UP. We are talking Disney. Yes it may be a little more adult and darker, but money talks and the Force Awakens made bank based on the Pg-13 factor. And if no crawl is to let common audience members understand this isnt episode 8, what better way to inform the audience by having a crawl and explaining to them the background and set up for this movie. I think its a terrible move. There is no better feeling than seeing A long time ago in a galaxy far far away pop up and then hearing the great music that is star wars, doesnt have to be an episode movie. Why do the books and comics get a crawl but rogue one doesnt. This is GAHBAGE!

    • November 3, 2016 at 9:38 pm

      You actually named yourself “really disappointed”? How pathetic is your life to devote so much of it to hating Star Wars?

      • November 3, 2016 at 9:50 pm

        He doesn’t “hate star wars” — he obviously cares about the INTEGRITY of the film. Lame to insult.

      • November 3, 2016 at 9:51 pm

        Hating star wars? You are talking to someone who saw the Force Awakens 5 times in theaters. I love star wars, I am just upset that they are trying to make Rogue One feel less like star wars.

        • November 3, 2016 at 9:52 pm

          Agree with you WHOLEHEARTEDLY

        • November 3, 2016 at 9:52 pm

          Fuck you twice.

          • November 3, 2016 at 9:53 pm

            Good one

        • November 3, 2016 at 10:35 pm

          if the trailers felt like star wars to you then film likely will as well, crawl or not.

        • November 4, 2016 at 12:41 am

          They aren’t. They are trying to make it feel different from the episodes. Not hard to grasp.

    • November 3, 2016 at 9:43 pm

      Agreed, it’s a bad move. But it will still make a ton of money so they don’t care. Same with TFA, we finally get an Episode VII and Luke isn’t in the damn thing, but it made a ton of money.

    • November 3, 2016 at 10:10 pm

      Maybe you should hand out pamphlets on opening night, or walk around wearing a sandwich board that reads,”rogue one is prequel”. 😉

    • November 3, 2016 at 10:37 pm

      Guess you haven’t see all the films Disney has distributed for decades

      • November 4, 2016 at 12:41 am

        In Pirates 3, they hanged an 8 year old at the beginning.

      • November 4, 2016 at 1:32 am

        I remember the Lone Ranger movie just a couple of years ago being absolutely atrocious.

      • November 4, 2016 at 1:37 am

        Seriously?!?! Wow! I would not have guessed that from the trailers I saw of the movie.

        However, I don’t think they were relying on selling billions of dollars in Lone Ranger toys to kids. I doubt we’ll see Darth Vader ripping someone’s heart out and eating it here 🙂

        • November 4, 2016 at 7:23 pm

          That wasn’t even the point.

      • November 4, 2016 at 1:39 am

        Was that movie economically succesful ?

    • November 4, 2016 at 12:41 am

      You must be new to movies as Disney has made (under their subsidiaries, like LFL) plenty of dark and adult movies.

    • November 4, 2016 at 1:33 am

      You made an account just for this lol?

  • November 3, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    “It’s funny people are fascinated on that” No it’s not funny, it’s Star Wars, of course people will have issue with that. That comment worries me a bit. I’m not surprised they aren’t doing an opening crawl because this is their one chance to set a new standard but not knowing fans might take issue with that seems completely out of touch.

    • November 3, 2016 at 9:41 pm

      I mean, I’m on the camp of “I’m really happy there’s no crawl”, but you have a great point. To see Kathy K genuinely surprised that fans would be upset is pretty jarring.

  • November 3, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    BAD BAD MOVE. Your average “movie goer” doesn’t read these boards and spoilers — and will be THOROUGHLY confused where this film fits into the Timeline without a CRAWL to explain where we are and what we are doing. NO CRAWL = BAD MOVE.

    • November 3, 2016 at 9:51 pm

      Fuck you.

      • November 3, 2016 at 9:53 pm

        LOL keep it coming honeybear.

        • November 3, 2016 at 9:54 pm

          Go fuck yourself.

          • November 3, 2016 at 9:54 pm

            Loving it. Keep it going.

          • November 3, 2016 at 9:55 pm

            The world will be improved on the day you die.

    • November 3, 2016 at 10:06 pm

      If people can’t figure it out by watching the movie then they likely have bigger problems.

      • November 3, 2016 at 11:32 pm

        Your average casual fan does not obsessively follow all of this like us. It WILL be confusing for a casual movie goer as to where this fits in the timeline.

        • November 3, 2016 at 11:34 pm

          Re: ” It WILL be confusing for a casual movie goer”
          I generally agree here.
          Except I can imagine them clarifying the timeline somehow via the opening scene/dialogue/even voice-over?

        • November 3, 2016 at 11:53 pm

          Most people don’t care, tbh. They just want to be entertained.

        • November 4, 2016 at 12:18 am

          It may be a little confusing, but only as any solo movie is I think. How hard could it be to throw in some lines of dialogue explaining where our characters are in time?
          And honestly if people don’t know where this movie fits in when we’ve had two trailers now with Darth Vader, the Death Star, and classic armour types, a 3 paragraph crawl isn’t going to save them.

      • November 3, 2016 at 11:33 pm

        Understand the sentiment, and generally agree, but I mean the same should theoretically be able to be said about Ep1-7.

        This movie, perhaps more-so than most of the rest of the main saga, is more likely to confuse some viewers.

        “A prequel, that’s made after the launch of the third trilogy but takes place before, and after the prequel trilogy but takes place after, that’s timed just before the original trilogy”… not confusing even a litte bit

        TFA – doubt anyone expected a movie “just after” RoTS.
        For Rogue One – I can imagine people expecting to see Rey & crew.

        • November 3, 2016 at 11:56 pm

          I mean if they saw a trailer and still don’t know, they’ll figure it out in the first five minutes, like with every other non SW film out there. Besides, the objective is to get them into the theater, everything after that is gravy.

          • November 4, 2016 at 12:15 am

            I agree. Also think that they should be able to convey the necessary background without opening crawl.

            Tho’ it’s odd that probably the SW film that could use some background the most might be the 1st without the crawl.
            I mean AFTER ep1 & ep4 the other 4x movies didn’t need any backstory – just continuations.

            I’ve had to explain & remind to friends/family who aren’t SW fans/nerds when exactly this *next* movie takes place. I have faith, however, that the talented crew behind this film will know how to communicate what’s necessary.

    • November 3, 2016 at 10:51 pm

      Most movies don’t require three paragraphs of on screen text to tell the audience what’s going on. They usually use that thing called the script.

    • November 4, 2016 at 12:39 am

      They can still explain it without the crawl. Have some imagination.

    • November 4, 2016 at 1:32 am

      I think that’s the job of marketing (and trailers), though, to inform the average movie goer of what the film actually is. It’s like walking into a Marvel movie (and there’s 14 of them!) – there’s no crawl for that.

      It’ll be fine 🙂

    • November 4, 2016 at 1:35 am

      Death Star and Darth Vader should tip them off just fine. If that does not ring a bell with them then we should not worry with them anyway imo.

    • November 4, 2016 at 2:25 am

      All Caps = Bad move. Hint hint.

      • November 4, 2016 at 6:36 am

        all caps is like butter, more is better. 😉

    • November 4, 2016 at 11:28 pm

      I get the feeling that no amount of crawl would help you with your particualr brand of thorough confusion.

  • November 3, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    We know the rebels Will Steel the plans.

    And now no crawl.

    🙁 !!!!!!!!

    • November 3, 2016 at 11:24 pm

      Re: “We know the rebels Will Steel ”
      No, don’t think Will Steel is a rebel – believe he’s a bounty hunter! 😉

    • November 4, 2016 at 1:43 am

      Don’t worry. It will get worse, just wait two more years…

      • November 4, 2016 at 7:38 am

        I didn’t realize we had an undercover guy for LFL in our midst.

    • November 4, 2016 at 1:19 pm

      We knew the Rebels won win at the end of Return of the Jedi. Did anyone genuinely think that would have ended any other way? the point is how you get to that point.

      What we DON’T know is what sacrifices will be made in that aim.

  • November 3, 2016 at 10:08 pm

    People keep referencing the EU stuff as a reason why this should have a crawl, but I always felt seeing the crawl on (what was often) sub-standard crap really diluted its impact and uniqueness. I ADORE the crawl, which is precisely why I think it should remain only on the Saga films.

    Besides, it’s entirely possible they have invented a new opening sequence that is fantastic. To immediately assume they’re going to go straight to doing generic blockbuster credits is to have zero faith in these guys. So far the movie looks amazing, so let’s assume that also applies to the opening.

    • November 4, 2016 at 12:39 am

      Anytime someone references the EU as a reason to do something now, just ignore them.

      • November 4, 2016 at 4:08 am

        Seems like kind of a fascist move, just ignoring 20 years and hundreds of thousands of pages that some people enjoyed, just because Uncle Deadly says so.

        • November 4, 2016 at 11:26 pm

          “fascist”? Really? FASCIST? Stop it. Get some help.

  • November 3, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    I think it’s a cool decision. I mean you can’t make it more clear that this isn’t the same sort of Star Wars we are use to. It’s not the Saga. It’s a side story.

    Don’t get me wrong. I love the crawl. I’m just ok with them wanting to work outside the mold.

  • November 3, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    I think this is the dumbest thing Disney has done since acquiring the franchise.

    • November 3, 2016 at 10:22 pm

      this was kennedy’s call, not iger.

  • November 3, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    I’m cool with it, although I do hope it still says “A long time ago in a galaxy far far away….” That’s enough to set the Star Wars mood.

    • November 3, 2016 at 10:23 pm

      Maybe it’ll be a voiceover over a black screen, “A long time ago.” then there’ll be a jumpcut from blackness into a battle scene.

  • November 3, 2016 at 10:25 pm

    In the words of Darth Vader:

  • November 3, 2016 at 10:30 pm

    I understand why R1 doesn’t need the crawl, but I still gonna miss it, with John Williams’s awsome music it has a very special feeling. It brings my childhood back, set up a certain mood only star wars can, I hope they can find a different way to do that

  • November 3, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    Smart move. These spin off films need to stand out from the others. People may argue that not including the crawl takes away from the uniqueness of the Star Wars movies… that’s a bit paradoxical considering using it again and again makes it anything but unique.

    I much prefer to see it less frequently (i.e. for the numbered episodes), it makes it all the more special.

  • November 3, 2016 at 10:44 pm

    Not so bothered about the crawl. But I’d rather they keep the stylistic decision to jump straight into the story without having to sit through a half dozen studio logos and credits.

  • November 3, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    I don’t care about the crawl too. It has to be different, it’s another story.
    But would be nice if they surprise us with something new to keep in other spinoff. Another SW registered mark. :p like a some kind of cool introduction.

    • November 4, 2016 at 5:35 pm

      I know they should make the text crawling down instead crawling up.

    • November 4, 2016 at 7:52 pm

      It’s possible. With the Clone Wars they kind of did that, I feel they will have something in mind to still give it something that reminiscent of the saga itself.

  • November 3, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    Fanboy Whiners last year: “The Force Awakens didn’t do enough different things, it copied the originals too much.”

    This year: “I don’t like the fact that Rouge One is doing something different and not copying the originals.”

  • November 3, 2016 at 11:06 pm

    I’m going to miss the opening crawl but this is clearly a Star Wars film and it just might add more significance to the standalone films and simultaneously make the Saga films more unique as well. Bring it on!

  • November 3, 2016 at 11:08 pm

    Not a fan of change for change’s sake. It speaks to a lack of artistic confidence in what they’ve created so far if they have to do gimmicky stuff to make it seem different.

    Ah well. Fans will add a crawl at some point, just like they fixed the awful Hobbit movies and The Phantom Edit, lol.

    • November 4, 2016 at 12:38 am

      Someone would say HAVING to use the crawl is a gimmick as well.

      And “for change’s sake” is not the reason. The reason is they want to make it feel different. That’s valid.

      • November 4, 2016 at 1:10 am

        Sure, why not replace an orchestral score with dance music while we’re at it. That’s different, lol.

        Unless they’re remaking an earlier film, it’s by definition already different. But I’m glad some like the gimmick. Hopefully it’s a good film.

      • November 4, 2016 at 11:20 pm

        Goddamn it, we agree again. Now I don’t know who I am or where I live anymore. Yes, that was EXACTLY what my reaction was – the crawl is a GINORMOUS gimmick and conceit, so NOT having one is one gimmick less.

    • November 4, 2016 at 6:21 am

      It’s not like we haven’t seen a lack of crawl from another film in the franchise.

      And no, I wouldn’t deem it a “lack” of artistic confidence. Actually, If anything it would take a great deal of artistic confidence to try and do things differently.
      Success or fail.

      • November 4, 2016 at 6:25 am

        Which film is that, the Clone Wars thing? It’s been a while so I don’t remember. I guess we’ll see. Even though I’m against this particular change, I still expect it to be a good flick.

        • November 4, 2016 at 7:32 am

          It was Clone Wars. I know it’s not regarded as a great film, but it’s a good example of how it got the message across; a standalone by breaking tradition.
          I think it will be good too, even if it doesn’t follow the rules of the standard film, if it gets the tone right that we’re kind of expecting.

  • November 3, 2016 at 11:12 pm

    Crawl –
    Actually think it’s a good idea to further differentiate the SW “Story” movies.

    However, I do wonder if they’ll need to include some textual information for background. At a minimum with dialogue/scene establishing for the audiences the timeframe. As it seem that a decent % of the audience won’t understand that this is BEFORE Ep4. Otherwise, I can imagine some confused at the beginning of the movie & have expectations of seeing the likes of Rey & crew.

    Music –
    Perhaps let them also go with a variation on the opening *theme* (/fanfare) as I can imagine that if they’re going for a different genre mix ( example: war firm, gritty western/wild-est or perhaps mystery ) … that it would be more appropriate to allow the director to come up with an appropriate theme. Maybe a variation on the main SW opening?

    Ep 1-9
    I have no issue with saving the crawl (& orig version of theme) for the primary saga. That way, ea time those films open we have that reminder (/celebration) as well…if some of the SW “Story” movies turn out to be turds, they won’t be as associated with the main saga/(Skywalker)story.

  • November 3, 2016 at 11:31 pm

    Who cares about the crawl, really? Besides, I agree with their decision. Keep the crawl for the episodic films.

    • November 4, 2016 at 1:13 am

      I do. On the other hand, I really appreciate that the Han Solo will be out of the privileged ones as well, so…

  • November 3, 2016 at 11:42 pm

    I’m glad they aren’t using the crawl for stand alone one offs. I just hope whatever they do is as clever as what Lucas did for the opening of the Clone Wars episodes and no as lame as the soft cold openings of Rebels.

  • November 3, 2016 at 11:46 pm


    • November 3, 2016 at 11:49 pm

      That’s all settled then – now LFL can continue w/post-production! 😉

  • November 4, 2016 at 12:11 am

    I’ll throw my two cents in here. First off, I love the star wars crawl, it’s a bombastic opening that leads people into a new episode featuring our heroes. But I’m glad if Rogue one doesn’t use it. Why? This gives our film makers way more creativity and new places to go. For those of you who saw DeadPool this year, it had a wonderful intro I thought that set the tone for the movie.
    Star Wars movies shouldn’t be a paint by numbers where “You must have blank, blank, and blank, otherwise it sucks” because then nothing new can flourish. I’m giving this new movie a chance that it makes a stand as being different, and I love it for that.

  • November 4, 2016 at 12:33 am

    To be honest, I was hoping for this to happen. I feel like my viewing of Rogue One will be the same feeling I get when reading the books or watching CW/Rebels. They are stories within the same universe, just telling us tales about characters who have nothing to do with the Skywalkers.

    If I recall, didn’t the Clone Wars movie also not use a crawl? So really, it’s not like this is the first “film” to not use the classic intro.

    • November 4, 2016 at 1:46 am

      Guess you will be dissappointed then. there is a Skywalker in Rogue One. Don’t trust everything KK said….

      • November 4, 2016 at 4:06 am

        He won’t be ACKNOWLEDGED as one, though.

      • November 4, 2016 at 6:10 am

        Nope, not disappointed at all, excited actually. If you’re referring to Vader then yes, I should have corrected myself. It’s not that these movies/stories/tv series have “nothing to do with Skywalkers”, as we’ve witnessed in the past.

        I don’t take in everything she says word for word, but it’s not surprising this is the direction they’re going in after what we’ve heard.

      • November 4, 2016 at 7:55 am

        There is a Skywalker, but it is not his story. People need to stop behaving like it is.

  • November 4, 2016 at 12:48 am

    Maybe they’ll start the Han Solo movies like Bond Movies! Down the barrel of a blaster and turn! Its HAN SOLO! That would be amazing! Do you think they could licence the theme?

    • November 4, 2016 at 4:29 pm

      You know, something similar isn’t such a bad idea. I could warm to this.

  • November 4, 2016 at 1:35 am

    Great to see the passion of Star Wars fans!

    I think we should wait until we see what they have planned before we judge.

    Maybe they’ll do something like the Hobbit, which brought in old Bilbo “telling the story to young Frodo”, so audiences knew where things sat. Maybe we’ll see C3PO telling the story to Finn or Poe?

    • November 4, 2016 at 1:39 am

      Agreed, however one thing is for sure: Disney/LucasFilm has an uphill battle right now getting the general audience in-line with the story being told. I still hear a LOT of confusion amongst general movie fans about Rogue One (Where is Rey? Isn’t Darth Vader dead? etc). An opening crawl would have been the easiest way to address this.

  • November 4, 2016 at 2:21 am

    That’s disappointing if true.

  • November 4, 2016 at 2:32 am

    You know, I don’t complain much, but I am disappointed this won’t have an opening crawl. I just think of all my favorite EU games from the 90s (dark forces especially) and how they all had crawls. And how much I want this movie to mimic that awesome time in the 90s.

  • November 4, 2016 at 4:09 am

    I say DO IT. Leave out the crawl for this one. They’ll have their own ideas for how to open the film. If Rogue One and the other spin-offs are going to look, feel and be different from the Saga films, they have to make sacrifices. Leaving out the crawl should be one of them. And, come on. It’s still STAR WARS. Is it not?

    • November 4, 2016 at 9:37 pm

      Some people have limiting beliefs on what SW is or isn’t.

  • November 4, 2016 at 4:50 am

    I”m so happy we have GALEN ERSO building the Death Star in this — not CGI-Insect-Geonosians. The human element is far more engaging.

    • November 4, 2016 at 7:53 am

      I would nonetheless like to know how they are going to resolve the fact that the Geonosians had the plans with Erso having built it. I’d rather they didn’t ignore it or retcon as, like it or not, Episode II is part of the saga.

      • November 4, 2016 at 8:19 am

        i think galen is specifically working on the super laser.

        • November 4, 2016 at 1:23 pm

          This. Different aspects, different employees. I think it was in one of the comics where it was explained what happened to the Geonosians.

      • November 4, 2016 at 2:35 pm

        This has already been touched on in Rebels and the book Tarkin. The Geonosians started the work on the death star project but had several delays and accidents. Eventually Palpatine had them all wiped out and moved the project to another secret location

        • November 5, 2016 at 1:18 am

          And following this few easy steps you can change anything within the existing SW universe :-). You don’t like the story? Okay, write it out, start again, with the story you like, with the characters you prefer, the only thing you have to do is invent a credible story – they failed, he wiped them out, and voilá, here’s a clean paper to fulfill your wildest dreams. And guess what – it’s all canon! 🙂

  • November 4, 2016 at 7:52 am

    I prefer the idea of no crawl because it indirectly helps to reinforce the prominence of the Saga films as the connective tissue for the universe.

  • November 4, 2016 at 8:09 am

    Sounds good to me. Keep the crawl for saga films

  • November 4, 2016 at 1:11 pm

    Instead of an opening crawl, maybe they could do an opening walk or run instead?

    • November 4, 2016 at 2:46 pm

      Arf ! i smirked

  • November 4, 2016 at 1:21 pm

    As the wise Nick Miller once said: “The crawl is for all !”

  • November 4, 2016 at 2:05 pm

    So, we’ve got this new Star Wars movie coming out but it’s not called Star Wars, it’s a “Star Wars Story” dontcha know and there’ll be no opening crawl either – ohh, that’s….. original.

    Also, it’s a “standalone” story about rebels with Rogue for a call sign, who steal the plans for the Death Star at the behest of Mon Motha, Jimmy Smits and others. And in the course of this mission they’ll encounter stormtroopers, At- Ats, Star Destroyers and a big bad guy called Darth Vader – standalone you say – right you are.

    Darth Vader though, won’t be facing any force wielding adversaries in silly over the top light saber duels, there’s going to be no Jedi in this one – really… ehhm… that’s great, do you like fudge? I prefer popcorn myself.

  • November 4, 2016 at 2:12 pm

    More and more, I think this is a good idea.

  • November 4, 2016 at 2:56 pm

    Oh, okay, it won’t be a Star wars movie, then.

  • November 4, 2016 at 5:04 pm

    Picture this:
    A long time ago,
    in a galaxy far, far away. (the usual blue titles in space)

    BAM, spaceship comes flying in, movie begins.

    Still feels a bit Star Warsy, no?

    • November 5, 2016 at 12:16 am

      As long as we get ALTA, I think it’ll be absolutely fine for everybody.

  • November 4, 2016 at 6:58 pm

    I guess this makes all existing media whether it is books or video games with the crawl part of the saga. Nothing to lose by leaving it in. Plenty to lose by removing it.

  • November 4, 2016 at 7:27 pm

    Yeah… well… never bothered me. A star wars film can’t be judged whether it’s good or bad only because of the crawl…

  • November 4, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    It makes sense to not have an opening crawl, but we’ve never had a Star Wars film without one. So it’ll feel pretty unusual right off the bat and might take you out of the film for a moment, but hopefully what they do instead will feel equally as Star Warsey. (I know that’s not a word but what the hey)

  • November 4, 2016 at 9:08 pm

    It’s so iconic and sunomonus with starwars how can they think this is a good idea? As a life long starwars fan I’m concerned they don’t know what the hell they are doing! What with all the solo movie news! It’s starwars ffs it has an identity! A solid fan base that deserves thought not o we will do this to make it our own or ooo this looks artistic :/

    • November 5, 2016 at 12:15 am

      It’s not an episode, so it doesn’t need an artifact which ONLY exists because Lucas was trying to convey the sense of walking into a classic Republic serial halfway through its run.

  • November 4, 2016 at 11:30 pm

    If the film is written so that an opening crawl isn’t necessary, it would then be odd to have one.

  • November 5, 2016 at 5:31 am

    like comics , specials should have differences from the main range ,shows its out side of the ongoing story , you already know whats going to happen in it anyway – they have their first victory – and youre not going to lose anything by not watching it and not going to gain much by watching it ……..its a one shot , the outcome and reasons are already in other films . so it doesnt matter if it doesnt have a crawl or your fav spaceship or the music .

  • November 5, 2016 at 5:37 am

    oh……….. and i put empire on for my 8 year old and his mates and they all in one voice said ” you mean we have to read? , schools finished ” and went out on their bikes instead

  • November 5, 2016 at 6:40 pm

    Honestly, I’m a little worn out with the opening crawl. Every SW video game, fan film and review use it to some capacity, trying to be clever.
    A little change could be refreshing.

  • November 6, 2016 at 3:54 am

    Um no; there’s a crawl.

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