Rumor: The Han Solo Movie Will Show the Sabacc Game That Won Him the Millennium Falcon.


In The Empire Strikes Back, Lando talks about how the Millennium Falcon used to be his ship, at which point Han replies that he won it fairly. In the Star Wars Legends continuity, it was explained that the modified YT-1300 light freighter was offered as a wager in a game of Sabacc – and rumor has it that we’re going to see that very game play  in the Han Solo movie.


From Slashfilm (via Borys Kit of The Hollywood Reporter):

Previously the only information we knew about Han Solo’s Star Wars Story, besides the two aforementioned cast members, is that it will be directed by 21 Jump Street and The LEGO Movie filmmaking duo Phil Lord & Chris Miller with a script from The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi writer Lawrence Kasdan and his son Jon Kasdan. There have been a few assumptions about where the story might venture in Han Solo’s past, and one of them seems to have been confirmed.

The Hollywood Reporter journalist Borys Kit revealed on Twitter that a couple sources have told him that the Han Solo spin-off will reveal how he won the Millennium Falcon from Lando Calrissian. That’s been something fans have presumed would be revealed, but this is the first we’ve heard that this detail will be included from sources behind the scenes.

This, of course, would justify the inclusion of Lando Calrissian among the movie’s cast of characters, as his presence would be absolutely necessary to tell this chunk of Han’s backstory. In general, it’s sounding more and more like the movie is going to feature a plethora of elements from the trilogy of Han Solo books by the late Ann C. Crispin, even though those stories are now Legends in and of themselves. The real question is now whether or not Han cheated to get his hands on the ship…


The currently-untitled Han Solo movie is slated for a May 26, 2018 release date. We at Star Wars News Net will cover information on this movie and more as it breaks.


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Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.

Grant Davis (Pomojema)

Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.

214 thoughts on “Rumor: The Han Solo Movie Will Show the Sabacc Game That Won Him the Millennium Falcon.

  • October 24, 2016 at 12:43 am

    Oh, Gawd, I hope not! If they do show this, at least show that Han cheated and Lando never knew about it. That way he will be a scoundrel, and in ESB when Hans says “I won it fair and square” we will know he was lying.

  • October 24, 2016 at 12:49 am

    Of course it will. Because they talked about it in Empire and of course we now have to see it happen. Gonna go out on a limb and predict that we also see Han dump his shipment for Jabba, rescue Chewbacca from slavers, and make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs.

    • October 24, 2016 at 1:19 am

      You beat me to it, was going to say the same. I hope Disney does not make a habit of making a whole movie showing every little minutiae that was ever mentioned in the OT. (it can happen, we are getting a whole movie about stolen plans)

      • October 24, 2016 at 4:00 am

        Third spinoff about Boba Fett will explain in 2 hours what is meant by “no disintegrations.”

        • October 24, 2016 at 7:07 am

          is a prequel fan really ripping the idea of going back to see a character’s backstory? that feels contradictory to me.

          • October 24, 2016 at 7:23 am

            Is a prequel-hater really defending the idea of seeing a character’s backstory? That feels even more contradictory to me.

          • October 24, 2016 at 7:29 am

            have prequel fans and haters switched sides? have we entered a parallel reality?

          • October 24, 2016 at 10:55 am

            Your argument makes no sense. People disliked the prequels not because of the backstory, but because they were a bad story.

            You seem to be already negative towards a movie you know next to nothing about. Instead you’d rather see another backstory movie about Obi-Wan.

          • October 25, 2016 at 7:44 am

            No, the prequel haters LOVE back story.

            They’re just upset that Darth Vader’s involved Little Ani, Jar Jar Binks, Count Dooku, Roger, Roger Battle Droids, a love story without chemistry and…I think you get the point.

        • October 24, 2016 at 4:14 pm


      • October 24, 2016 at 5:44 am

        LFL creates story, not Disney.

        • October 24, 2016 at 7:26 am

          Then rephrase, I hope *LFL* does not make a habit of making a whole movie showing every…. mention of the OT.

          Somewhere down the road, they will have to learn to push forwards. There were some parts of TFA that were surprising and well-make. I want to see more of that.

          • October 24, 2016 at 11:33 am

            Yes, it’s ironic that the best parts of THE FORCE AWAKENS were, without a doubt, the parts that weren’t so obviously callbacks, or which introduced new ideas/concepts/character traits etc.

          • October 24, 2016 at 2:59 pm

            They are following the path laid down by George right now. He wanted this Solo movie.

          • October 24, 2016 at 7:52 pm

            He wanted Episode 7 too apparently, and yet we’re confidently told over and over again that it bears little resemblance to where he would have taken the story. You can’t argue both sides of the fence.

          • October 24, 2016 at 8:35 pm

            Sure, I can because he wrote a treatment. A treatment is merely a starting place for a movie and rarely resembles the final product. His own first treatment of Star Wars looks radically different from the movie released in theaters.

            There is no promise that the Episode 7 he would have released would have bore any resemblance to the treatment he wrote, either. There is simply no way to know, except using history as an example and history tells us that treatments rarely look like the final movie.

            Plus, there is a large difference between saying, “Hey, I want a Han Solo movie to be made” and “That’s not the Episode 7 I would have made”. One is simply giving his go-ahead for it to exist and the other is saying he would have made a different movie. I fail to see the connection, but if there is one, see the first two paragraphs above.

        • October 24, 2016 at 12:53 pm

          We’ve been through this before. LFL creates the story, but Disney has an input in the direction of the franchise since it’s their money. To continue to promote the idea that it’s solely LFL is disingenuous.

          • October 24, 2016 at 2:59 pm

            And since we are talking about story, try to stick to your own internal logic.

          • October 24, 2016 at 10:02 pm

            disney has a vested interest in the films being good and will give some notes on each film as its being created, but iger isn’t sitting in with the story group yaying or naying their ideas for the future. that’s all on kennedy.

          • October 25, 2016 at 1:04 am

            Who said he was?

          • October 25, 2016 at 1:43 am

            Just clarifying the situation.

  • October 24, 2016 at 1:42 am

    It’s beginning to sound like this may be another “Everything you know about this character magically came together in one amazing day…” thing like we saw at the beginning of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

    I sure hope I’m wrong about that. Oy.

    • October 24, 2016 at 5:44 am

      Kasdan has specifically denied that.

      • October 24, 2016 at 6:51 pm

        And yet, what little we know about the film already seems to point specifically TO that.

        Again, I really hope I’m wrong. I’ve got no use for this entire concept in the first place, but I’d hope that it doesn’t end up being so badly done as to compress every known bit of his back story into one film.

        • October 24, 2016 at 8:36 pm

          It points to ONE event. And it’s rumor. I don’t get nervous over rumors and I think Kasdan has a good feel for Han Solo. I’m not worried.

          • October 25, 2016 at 4:33 am

            Well… bear in mind, Kasdan’s “exit line” for Han in ESB was “Just remember that, Princess… because I’ll be back.”

            Much of the reason that Han is who he is in that movie (and by extension in the OT overall), is because Harrison Ford and Irvin Kershner rewrote a lot of the dialogue on set. I seriously doubt that Alden What’shisnutz is going to bring the same script-doctoring chops to the table.

          • October 25, 2016 at 6:19 am

            That happens with all movies. It’s nothing to fret over.

    • October 24, 2016 at 6:09 am

      If it’s done as well as that opening scene of The Last Crusade, I’m in! I love that movie…

      • October 24, 2016 at 6:48 pm

        Cramming the development of every lifelong distinguishing trait about the character into the events of a day or so? IMHO, that was by far the weakest part of Last Crusade, and I sure as hell don’t want something that lazy and cheesy done to Han’s character.

        (Unfortunately, I think this is exactly what we’re gonna see…)

        • October 24, 2016 at 10:07 pm

          some serious assumptions there. you’re filling in all the gaps with your own preconceived ideas.

        • October 25, 2016 at 4:53 am

          I don’t agree. I think it’s contrived, but in just the way that everything in Indiana Jones is contrived: in a fun, pulp-fiction sorta way. But YMMV: “The Last Crusade” was the first Indiana Jones movie I saw in the theater (I was 10), and it’s one of the youthful movie-watching experiences that’s etched most powerfully into my memory…

    • October 24, 2016 at 9:59 am

      Yes, excuse my prejudice but this sounds like a movie that will not sit very well with, I guess, ANCIENT GUYS like ourselves ^^ We’ll probably see Han Solo get and later ditch a girlfriend, Han Solo having a run-in with Greedo and Boba Fett, winning the Falcon from Lando in a twenty minute scene of a battle of the wits in space chess, Han Solo coincidentally hearing about this “Princess Leia” and scoffin at her and the whole Rebellion, and every exchange between Han and Chewie in the OT re-examined to make us go WOW SEE WHAT THEY DID THERE THEYSOSMART. They’ll probably dig up an old fossile at an archeological dig so that Chewie’s line (“Where did you dig up that old fossile”) is more “believable”. We’ll probably have Han see “A lot of strange things”, and there will be a host of scenes where he could have seen the Force but he looks the other way (nod nod wink wink). Or not, who knows this early in the game? All I know is I’ve now commented on at least three different posts here with my inane ramblings and prophecies of doom, it’s weird how the Han Solo project aggravates me, and that it kind of “takes over” instead of just enjoying the Rogue One buzz. Oh well. Hope you are well, Dekka.~ Ree

      • October 24, 2016 at 12:48 pm

        “Han Solo coincidentally hearing about this “Princess Leia” and scoffin at her and the whole Rebellion”

        Han is meant to be about 25 in this I think, so Leia would just be a kid and it would probably be set before Rebels.

        • October 24, 2016 at 3:12 pm

          Look how he changes face in just five years…..

  • October 24, 2016 at 2:01 am

    Really hoping this isn’t true. I would love a completely new story from Han, not some kind of spin on an event we already know.

    • October 24, 2016 at 2:54 am

      An event you are assuming you know.

      • October 24, 2016 at 3:18 am

        Even if they create some new spin on the event, Han still gets the Falcon from Lando. Let’s have something completely original and not just fanfare

        • October 24, 2016 at 3:57 am

          Amen to that.

        • October 24, 2016 at 3:34 pm

          “The event” you say again, as if you know what that event is….

          All I am saying is: why can’t people wait to discredit the story after they actually know the story? You are operating on a TON of assumptions, and we all know what assumptions are….

          • October 24, 2016 at 11:47 pm

            I’m not criticising the movie, only this rumour. We all know there are things Star Wars has done right and things that are wrong. What you call discrediting is merely people wanting them to get this right. Especially since it involves a fan favourite.

          • October 26, 2016 at 8:21 am

            Because people are anxious about it and need to vent

    • October 24, 2016 at 5:37 am

      It wouldn’t be the entire movie.

  • October 24, 2016 at 3:00 am

    why are people so upset about this? did you expect the film to be about his time as an insurance claims adjuster? the falcon is an important part of his character and backstory so of course we are going to see him win it. it would be weird if we didn’t.

    • October 24, 2016 at 3:33 am

      yeah, I’m constantly surprised by how much this movie and its likely elements bother people. i’m thinking it’s mostly just prequel backlash — before those films came out people were clamoring for all the backstory to get filled in (clone wars, vader vs obi wan on a volcano planet, etc), but now people are vehemently against that sort of thing. yes, the prequels poisoned the well a bit by filling in stuff we didn’t need to see (anakin built 3PO? Really?), but these new movies are being made by people at the height of their powers (Lord and Miller) and not a dude who hadn’t directed anything in 22 years. Have some faith, people. This is gonna be good.

      • October 24, 2016 at 9:52 am

        I want to have faith, but at the moment I have zero (side-question: can you quantify faith like that?). Yes, the prequels ruined many legendary OT lines – we didn’t *really* need to see “The Clone Wars”, except Lucas called his originals IV-VI so he felt he had to add I-III. BUT, with the Han Solo, it’s a little bit different. Like, “the Clone Wars” was a concept introduced in ANH, but we didn’t have any actual information on it, so whatever Lucas made up would be easier to digest since we had no idea. With HAN SOLO and LANDO CALRISSIAN, however, they are going to mess with ESTABLISHED characters, and we already know and feel by insinuation the how’s and why’s of Solo winning the Falcon from Calrissian. By showing it, Lucasfilm limits it for us to one single scene, removing depth and immersion. And since when did a prequel get a sequel character right? (Arguably, Bilbo Baggins – the character – wasn’t too bad and the transition between the two Tolkien trilogies in terms of his character actually believable) What is the POINT of it all except drain more wallets? What’s next, a SEE-THREEPIO origin movie explaining how he knows about the Spice Mines of Kessel? A BIB FORTUNA movie showing how he learned Huttese, to make his interaction with Jabba in ROJ more believable? A LANDO CALRISSIAN AND THE BATTLE OF TANAAB movie? A THE REBELS WHO MASSED NEAR SULLUST trilogy? NIEN NUNB AND THE THIRTY YEARS BETWEEN VI AND VIII? YOUNG INDIANA JONES? Sigh.
        No offense to anyone here, the whole Han Solo movie thing is just extremely frustrating and aggravating to me, I don’t think the actors that have been cast look at all to be believable Han and Lando. Now a “Han & Lando buddy comedy” featuring the actual actors, taking place between VI and VII would be more interesting I think. But also extremely unnecessary. Alas, money rules and artistry is a distant second; otherwise we would see new, fresh and original STAR WARS epics featuring brand new characters and settings.

        • October 24, 2016 at 3:08 pm

          Sadly, I agree with every word. One year, one SW movie will be wasted….and I’ m not gona show this to my kids in any future….some day I will tell them watch it if you want, but don’ t také it seriously, it has nothing to do with the story you know and love…

          • October 24, 2016 at 7:14 pm

            Isn’t that for them to decide? Perhaps they do like it, because it has elements in it that appeals to them. Just like nowadays with kids growing up on clone wars or rebels, before seeing the movies and in doing so prefer the cartoons.

          • October 25, 2016 at 7:40 am

            Yet it will be canon. So you’d be absolutely wrong.

      • October 24, 2016 at 4:19 pm

        And why do you think the prequel failed miserably? (And I do like them) Maybe it was because they went out and explained the origins of the most beloved movie villain, and other events just mentioned in the OT…

        • October 25, 2016 at 7:41 am

          Are you actually stating the prequels failed miserably?

          I’m just checking on this Gerry. Is that what you’re insinuating?

  • October 24, 2016 at 3:14 am

    Sure, a rumour involving Lando gets reported not long after Donald Glover was confirmed to play the role. Not suspicious at all….


  • October 24, 2016 at 3:56 am

    Why do I suddenly have visions of Chris Pine cheating on the Kobayashi Maru?

    • October 25, 2016 at 5:54 am

      Because it was from a popular 2009 movie.

      • October 25, 2016 at 7:45 am

        Kenobi has been ALL kinds of butt hurt lately. I love watching him rage.

  • October 24, 2016 at 4:35 am

    Nope- I would prefer to see Han and Lando pick up Batman instead of the card game.

  • October 24, 2016 at 5:16 am

    I LOVE this ! These are iconic Star Wars moments that we have ALWAYS wanted to see !

    • October 24, 2016 at 9:43 am

      No, it’s the precise opposite. These moments (memories) are iconic precisely because we’re only told about them, and we fill it in with our own imaginations, be it “the spice mines of Kessel”, “the Battle of Tanaab”, “You lost her (Falcon) to me”, or “Rebels massing near Sullust”. We didn’t have to SEE these things, they are just small nods to the galaxy existing outside of the frame, gives it depth, and by showing it all, you remove that sense of depth.

      • October 25, 2016 at 7:57 am

        Speak for yourself.

    • October 24, 2016 at 3:03 pm

      Speak for yourself, buddy

  • October 24, 2016 at 8:16 am

    duh. that’s obvious. Also cool.

  • October 24, 2016 at 8:51 am

    Ok cool. Yes. The top three elements of this movie are gonna be: Han winning the ship and becoming friends with Lando
    Saving chewbacca and also being best friends
    His smuggling and escape from the imperial pilot school

    • October 24, 2016 at 10:58 am

      I guess, that Han was an Imperial once isn’t canon anymore?!

      We’ll see the Kessel Run instead! I am sure!

  • October 24, 2016 at 8:54 am

    My guess is that there are 4 things we’re going to see:
    * Han meet Chewbacca
    * Han win the Falcon
    * Han dumping his shipment for Jabba
    * the Kessel Run

    • October 24, 2016 at 9:31 am

      I agree with all of those except for Han dumping his shipment. I think that would be too close to A New Hope in the time line? I’d love to see it, but I don’t think we will?

    • October 24, 2016 at 12:18 pm

      And this list proves why this project is predictable, lazy and doesn’t need top be made in my opinion.

      • October 24, 2016 at 10:49 pm

        “This unimaginative internet comment proves why this movie shouldn’t be made, based on almost nothing substantial.”

        Peak internet.

        • October 25, 2016 at 1:03 am

          Yes, we all know you’ve got all the answers UD. Thank you for reminding us all again.

          • October 25, 2016 at 3:13 am

            No, that’s just it: I don’t have ANY of the answers. And neither do you nor anyone else on this website or any other website. None of us know a damned thing about it.

            So to make a statement such as yours, based entirely on speculation, is the height of ridiculousness. So if pointing out that ridiculousness means I’ve “got all the answers”, then you should maybe re-examine the conversation we are trying to have here.

            But I’m happy to remind you all that we ALL know nothing.

          • October 26, 2016 at 12:08 am

            I think then you might want to pay attention to your posting style, which is very much about telling others what’s what, such as knowing intimately the inner workings of Disney and Lucasfilm.

            If I am doing what you say, then you are the biggest hypocrite for criticising it as you pick holes in the posts of others more than anyone else here.

            People in glass houses…

          • October 26, 2016 at 3:07 am

            It’s clear you haven’t been paying attention.

            People ASSUME Disney is running the show at LFL, but they don’t ASSUME or even imply that at Pixar or Marvel. It’s a lack of consistency, one that is purely arbitrary that they can bring up whenever they want to whine about something they don’t like.

            Pointing that discrepency out to them and telling them that by ALL ACCOUNTS FROM PEOPLE WHO KNOW (and I have no intimate knowledge of anything: I just happen to pay attention to articles and interviews and not cherry pick what i like and don’t like), LFL is running the show, with input from Disney if they so choose.

            So yeah, I pick apart people’s posts because a lot of people post insane theories and silly little stuff that has no basis in reality. HEAVEN FORBID I challenge that or put up a decent argument instead of simply agreeing like a puppet.

            I will let you have the last word because I will not be engaging with you at all in the future. Simply saying “None of know for sure” is not a controversial hot take. I don’t see what you problem you could have with that.

          • October 26, 2016 at 10:30 am

            See , this is the problem. Not all people assume what you are saying at all. You assume what the other person is saying without paying attention (probably because you’re more interested in what you say that what others say) and then talk down to people as if they’re idiots.

            All I, for one, have ever said is that Disney will have influence. I’ve never claimed they are the creative team. But they are the money men and the buck ultimately stops with them. For business reasons they wiull have a l;evel of input in the basic direction of the franchise, just like they do Marvel, their animation studios and so on. After having this pointed out to you previously you were forced to agree…but now you’re parading around again with the disingenuous notion that LFL is the only party making decisions. So it seems that when you’re presented with “a decent argument” you just ignore it and carry on regardless.

            For the record, I don’t have a problem with “none of us know exactly what is happening” as that’s factually true. It’s your attitude that I find a little condescending. But, if you want to cry off in a sulk, fine by me. *shrug*

      • October 25, 2016 at 5:53 am

        What does the Kessel Run consist of?
        How do Lando and Chewie and Han know each other?
        Did they work together on a heist/deal?
        Does Han know Lobot?

        Real predictable.

        • October 25, 2016 at 11:59 pm

          All those questions I don’t really care about.

          I’d rather a brand new character with a blank slate, not a youth greatest hits.

    • October 24, 2016 at 5:32 pm

      I’m going to guess we won’t see the shipment dumping. That feels like it happend weeks or months at most before A New Hope. I get the sense that this series will take place years before ANH, maybe 5 or more, but thats just my guess.

      • October 24, 2016 at 5:37 pm

        I don’t think we’ll see him meet Chewbacca either. I think we’ll see the Kessel Run and winning the Falcon.

      • October 24, 2016 at 8:07 pm

        That’ll be his cameo in Rogue 1,

        • October 25, 2016 at 7:17 am

          is that still happening?

          • October 25, 2016 at 7:55 am

            That was never happening.

          • October 25, 2016 at 9:02 am

            great, that never would have worked.

  • October 24, 2016 at 8:55 am

    Things I know!!

  • October 24, 2016 at 9:39 am

    Dammit I don’t WANT to know exactly how Han Solo won the Millenium Falcon! I hate this kind of “ooooh look there’s a line of dialogue we must expand upon until there’s nothing left for the viewer to imagine!” dammit. (Of course, I am 100% *against* a Han Solo movie in the first place, what a dumb decision)
    Yeah, you can say “don’t watch it then”, and yeah I won’t, but that won’t stop the world from telling me most of the film’s content.
    I wish everybody downvoted the Han Solo movies with their wallets. I’d rather have a Rogue Two story, a Sy Snootles tour movie, or anything that doesn’t further undermine and exploit the original trilogy. Leave it alone!! But oh no, weesa needsa Han Solo movie because Han Solo wery wery populah! DAMMIIIIIIIIIT all to whatever hell the REAL Han Solo talks about on Hoth (you could argue Hoth *is* hell, though, of the frozen over variety). Anyway, I just needed to vent/rant, I’m like one tiny rebel against the might of the Disney Empire, but sometimes you’ve got to stand up for what you believe is right, and there is nothing right about a Young Han Solo spinoff movie feat Young Lando Calrissian (and most likely Young Chewbacca) feat Young Millenium Falcon (look it had a triangular radar dish before the round one before the square one!) feat probably cameos by everyone any fan ever liked from the original trilogy and probably tying up the film so that it ends exactly as Han Solo sits down in the Mos Eisley cantina for “seamless” continuation dammit….arrrghhhhh……the Force is so not with Lucasfilm. And yes, I’ll melt down all my vintage Star Wars toys if the Han Solo movie in any shape or form is satisfying and doesn’t warp my perception of that classic, lovable scene on the Cloud City landing platform 327.

    • October 24, 2016 at 10:56 am

      “Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”

      Just lean back… and enjoy Star Wars!
      There will be a smuggler-movie with some hints to the original trilogy.
      It could be worse.

      Without Disney Empire, Star Wars would stay like the awful Lucas-prequels or become even worse!

      • October 24, 2016 at 11:31 am

        Of course, of course. Without the Empire of Disney, nothing at all, I know. I just feel they are going for an option (with the Han Solo movie) that won’t enrich the Star Wars galaxy but rather narrow down a major character’s backstory and leave us with less to imagine. “Less is more” and all that. But yeah, I may have come across as an aggressive negotiator, no worries I’m just getting out some steam, quitting nicotine today ^^

        • October 24, 2016 at 12:12 pm

          In a way, you are right. But think of the EU. There, every little thing was explained and told – down to the tiniest little thing. Even the Kessel Run. 🙂
          Everybody was fine with it…

          So, come on. Let’s have some hope. Kasdan writes the story. That’s a plus, in my opinion…

          And Ehrenreich and Glover don’t look too bad as Solo and Calrissian:

          • October 24, 2016 at 12:42 pm

            No, they kinda don’t look bad…perhaps especially Ehrenreich looks able to pull it off. As for EU, I’ve always thought of it as fan fiction so I didn’t have to try and wrap my brain around all the inanity hehe.

          • October 24, 2016 at 1:43 pm

            I knew it was like fanfiction, but Lucasfilm licenced it – so it was for me (until Legends) the true history of the characters.

            The Zahn-trilogy was for me like a big budget movie. Always hoped, that they would put this on the big screen. 🙂

          • October 24, 2016 at 3:01 pm

            You didn’t ever know that Lucas stated many times he doesn’t read that stuff and that it’ s always been other universe then his?

          • October 24, 2016 at 5:17 pm

            For there weren’t no movies to come, it didn’t matter, what Lucas said (Heir to the Empire f.e. came out 8 years before The Phantom Menace). Those were the only stories we had…

          • October 24, 2016 at 8:20 pm

            And I enjoyed it as well, but it never crossed my mind that those stories are part of the movie universe..

          • October 24, 2016 at 12:43 pm

            “Everybody was fine with it…”

            Probably because they still imagined it as Ford’s incarnation.

            Besides, not everyone read the EU stuff. I only ever read the Zahn trilogy, some of the comics and the Old Republic era stuff. It’s not the same as a big budget movie.

          • October 24, 2016 at 2:59 pm

            There is a huge difference between books/comics and a movie . EU is for a small group of devoted fans who seek for any tiny thing. Movie is for worldwide audience, for people who mostly doesn’k know that EU exist. I sincerely wish this movie to be economical disaster for Disney so they learn from Lucas it is good to make an effort to invent new stories and new characters. For now what I have seen across different SW sites across the world 2/3 of fanboys are against this movie and prefer anything else, like the Obi-McGregor movie. From my part, it is not too late to rename the characters, kick out the Falcon and Chewbacca and tell a story of some noname smuggler…..

          • October 24, 2016 at 5:37 pm

            To learn what? How to take every bit of love, life and devotion out of the movies? For CGI sake?
            Lucas created lame characters, a lame story and a lame look of the movies itself. He filled them with stupid jokes, continuity errors and bouncing Jedi.

            No thanks, We left that kind of Star Wars-storytelling behind. Thank God!

            By the way…an Obi Wan-movie (or even trilogy) would be better? Why? He’s also an iconic character and doesn’t need any more background, right?

            I am with you, that Lucasfilm/Disney should rather concentrate on new characters. But please! Not in Lucas-style. 🙂

            Let’s end “Star Wars: Rebels” and make some great R+ movies about the people fighting against the evil Galactic Empire!

          • October 24, 2016 at 3:18 pm

            This is photoshop, not the actual face of the actor, he doesn’t look like this AT ALL

      • October 24, 2016 at 12:35 pm

        “Just lean back… and enjoy Star Wars!”

        Silly comment. Fans have a vested interesting in seeing SW done in a way that excites them, and not every fan likes exactly the same thing as the next one. Therefore folks are more than entitled to express frustration at the direction of the franchise if it’s not what they want or expect top see – and this project has proved very divisive. That can’t be denied.

        Saying “just enjoy it” is silly if there are fundamental aspects that will prevent enjoyment.

        • October 24, 2016 at 5:26 pm

          I am pretty sure, they’ll find a way to excite them.
          In my opinion, Disney already proved, that they treat the legacy with respect.
          Lucas nearly destroyed, what made Star Wars so exciting and lovable. Ep. VII was pretty good and I am sure, Rogue One will be awesome.
          Sure, you can’t satisfy every fan… but – again, it’s my opinion – you can’t make it worse then I-III.

        • October 25, 2016 at 1:17 am

          …like a large berk jammed up yer’ bum, my son. Lighten up!

    • October 24, 2016 at 12:22 pm

      I’m with you 100% of the way bud.

    • October 26, 2016 at 12:26 am

      To not want the movie is fine, but to wish nobody wanted it is a bit of a stretch, dude.

  • October 24, 2016 at 9:59 am

    Hopefully we’ll find out how Lobot was lobotomized

    • October 24, 2016 at 10:16 am

      Lol yeah in an extended scene

    • October 24, 2016 at 10:43 am

      i think that was in the lando comic if you’re legitimately curious.

    • October 24, 2016 at 12:00 pm

      100% shown in the Lando comic.

  • October 24, 2016 at 12:16 pm

    I’m faaaar from convinced we need a Han Solo movie for a lot of the same reasons people have cited, but wasn’t a lot of this stuff already detailed in Legends? I never read said Legends material so I don’t know, but honestly… what’s the big deal that it is now going to be in movie form, even if it will be different?

    • October 24, 2016 at 10:46 pm

      Bc people are babies.

  • October 24, 2016 at 12:21 pm

    No disrespect to the recently cast Donald Glover or Alden, but meh. You know where this is going. The now seeming
    inevitable losing of the Falcon, meeting Chewie, the Kessel run. All
    things, in my opinion, better left to the imagination….and not the same without Ford or BDW.

    First SW film I’ll pass on at the cinema I think. I just don’t want to see this.

    • October 24, 2016 at 2:47 pm

      Among my SW friends there is nobody who is happy about this movie. Idon’t want to see it either

      • October 25, 2016 at 4:01 am

        “I care…”

    • October 24, 2016 at 5:34 pm

      “I just don’t want to see this.”

      …2 years later on opening night…

      “That movie wasn’t as good as I’d hoped.”

      • October 25, 2016 at 1:08 am

        Yeah, nice try. But I never go to movies on opening night, nor do I go to multiple showings. Try someone else with that one.

    • October 24, 2016 at 6:57 pm

      I just don’t get why it’ll be bad to see this done in a movie? Like, we’ve seen Batman’s origin a billion times but people still like that, why can’t we see Han’s upbringing from a different storyteller? Is it just because he’s a “legendary, untouchable character”? If so, let’s grow up, please.

      • October 24, 2016 at 7:23 pm

        I think it will be hard for some (I am still not won over) to see someone else aside from Harrison Ford playing Han Solo. The movie has a lot of work to do to convince us that they are the same person. That is this films biggest challenge, they can’t do that then the whole film falls apart. I don’t poo-poo anyone that feels that way.

    • October 25, 2016 at 2:48 am

      Re: “First SW film I’ll pass on at the cinema I think. I just don’t want to see this.”

      While I understand your (valid) concerns & believe we share the same sentiment (young Han Solo movie didn’t need to be made)…. I suspect your “I think” left you just enough wiggle room to let yourself see this at the theatre. 😉

      • October 26, 2016 at 12:10 am

        Nope. It leaves me enough wiggle room to see it on home media.

        • October 26, 2016 at 12:17 am

          I hear ya – sympathize with the concerns.
          fwiw – I was VERY against this when the rumors 1st surfaced & still wish they’d chosen another “SW story” to make.
          However, I know that I’ll wind up watching it in the theatre. I mean, if it’s of similar production quality as TFA – we’ll have amazing visuals in beloved SW universe. That alone puts it above the vast majority of stuff that hits theatres, much of which I’ve regretted wasting the money on.

          Here’s hoping it turns out great – color me “very cautiously optimistic”.

          • October 26, 2016 at 12:26 am

            I dunno. I mean, I will inevitably see it. By given the cost of cinema tickets I’m not sure I am interested enough to pay for it. For me this is like an Indiana Jones film without Ford. Case in point, the Star Trek reboot films, no matter how well they have done as the box office (at least the first two) you as the fans who they prefer between Shatner, Nimoy, etc and the new cast and the old cast will be chosen by the majority….even if they like the new cast.

            For me things like Star Wars and Trek are different from things like superheroes and book adaptions. The characters originated on screen with specific actors so those actors helped to create the characters, rather than adapt them from other sources. For me, SW is so iconic than Han Solo who isn’t Ford just doesn’t feel right – especially so soon after Ford last played him.

          • October 26, 2016 at 12:43 am

            Again – we agree, Ford IS Han Solo & Indiana Jones.

            And although this movie wasn’t my 1st, 2nd or 50th choice…. here’s an idea (I’d posted elsewhere) that I think could *help* & perhaps satisfy us sceptics, as we’d get a new dose of the real Han Solo.

            In the recent (canon) Smuggler’s Run book [spoilers for book] it’s book-ended with a scene that’s the “old Han Solo”, telling a tale of earlier days.
            I could imagine using intro/exit scene where it’s “old Han” & “old Lando” with Ford & Williams reprising their roles. Maybe they’re meeting up for drinks or on some adventure, most likely (as in the book) in a shady cantina – the story unfolds initially w/o knowing it’s the legendary Solo telling it. Ends with some add’l scene & adventure w/Lando & Han, even arguing over details from the past. After closure of ending mini-adventure, Han saying like – “gotta go pickup Leia. We’re taking Ben to stay w/Luke for a while” to let audience realize why he’s *alive*.

            I realize that this is just a *dream* at this point, as it’s unlikely we’d get that. But if they fit some real Han & Lando in, even for a short scene, it would be cool.
            Obviously these “SW Story” films take place outside of the primary saga’s timeline, so I can still dream of more Ford reprising the character.

          • October 26, 2016 at 10:43 am

            Yes, I did think of the Old Han idea previously since they did it on Young Indy, and I also liken it to Nimoy in the Trek reboot or Ford himself in Mystery of the Blues. So yes, perhaps that could make it a little easier to watch. But I’d be surprised if Ford was happy to just come back for a bar scene and when you think of Nimoy’s role you see a character who has a major plot interest. Not sure a bookend would be the same.

    • October 25, 2016 at 2:48 am

      Then we can both agree that the entire prequel trilogy should have been left to the imagination.




      • October 26, 2016 at 12:09 am

        Yes. At least the Clone Wars and the Jedi anyway…

        • October 26, 2016 at 2:49 am

          Which are two of the most important parts of the story? How can you have the prequel trilogy without the conflict that gave birth to the Empire and the Jedi Order for the Sith to topple?

          Look dude. You say a lot of awesome things. You have strong opinions backed by fact. But really? We can’t have new Star Wars movies based on vague ideas presented in the core trilogy which literally has given birth to ALL the Star Wars media we have now?

          Even the Old Republic stems from a random line in A New Hope. Those vague suggests are the foundation of the Star Wars universe. Why is it bad to explore those foundations so long as they work to give us a worthy story that makes a great movie?

          Han Solo is not out yet. How can you literally complain that a movie is bad, useless, or unnecessary until AFTER it comes out. If it comes out and it’s all those things, HOORAY! It’s accurate. Do you just want to say I told you so in the future? What if it’s not accurate? What if the film is good and *GASP* you like it. And you were happy to see a young Han and Lando making the Kessel Run.

          If they do it right, and it’s exciting, damn right I want to see the Kessel Run.

          And we were all stoked to see the Clone Wars (Yes, even me) in the prequel trilogy. And that’s one thing that Lucas did do right. And I thank him for presenting us with a visual representation of an army of Clones doing battle with Separatist Droids in epic sequences that may look a little too CGI, but represent the best of what Star Wars is about.

          • October 26, 2016 at 10:39 am

            “How can you literally complain that a movie is bad, useless, or unnecessary until AFTER it comes out.”

            I don’t say it is bad or useless. I say it is unnecessary because of the core premise, and I don’t need to wait for it to come out to express reservation at the core premise.

            To address your other question, how could you do the prequels without showing the elements I said? Well, you probably couldn’t. Whether or not the prequels should’ve been made is a debate I will leave for another time, but as a kid mention of the Jedi and Clone Wars were things of great mystery for me. I would imagine The Jedi as a grand and luminous order, not the dull and incompetent bunch the prequels gave us, and I certainly never expected the clones to be Kiwi stormtroopers (or, for t6hat matter, even be human clones). I felt that had been taken away fro me, just as I never cared for Boba Fett as a kid, as his mystery was one of his most endearing qualities.

            I disagree with you on the Old Republic or even a movie set in or around the saga films. This issue I have with this is that it’s going to be very specific in what it tackles, and for me that restricts them a lot more and is a major gamble for them.

    • October 25, 2016 at 7:50 am

      Bullshit. not to be rude, but we all know that everyone who is big enough of a Star Wars fan to be on this website is going to see that film within a week of its release. You might not want to admit it, but it’s 100% the truth.

      • October 25, 2016 at 11:58 pm

        I love how much internet people are experts on others. I didn’t see Force Awakens until three weeks after it was released as I was busy with work…and my work is such that it’s not simply 9 to 5 stuff that affords loads of time to go to the cinema. So I go sparingly and when I can find the time. Most movies I see on home media.

        I’m sorry that it may come a a shock to you uber nerds, but people can still be fans of something without being obsessive sad bastards that have to see the latest entry a second past midnight on the day of release.

  • October 24, 2016 at 2:39 pm

    It’s going to be weird having 3 Star Wars movies come out for 3 years in a row, and then have to wait 2 years for the next one when Episode 9 comes out. But that’s ok.. I can endure the drought.

    • October 24, 2016 at 2:42 pm

      Rogue One, Ep VIII, Han Solo, EP IX. 2 year wait???

      • October 24, 2016 at 2:44 pm

        Ep VII, Rogue One, Ep VIII,…………………EP IX. 2 year wait !

      • October 24, 2016 at 2:45 pm

        Skipping Han Solo

        • October 24, 2016 at 6:07 pm

          Yeah. I doubt that.

    • October 24, 2016 at 2:54 pm

      there once was the weirdest of times when we get 3 years, and even 16 years without star wars

      • October 24, 2016 at 3:00 pm

        in 1,000,000 B.C. the wait time for a new Star Wars movie was borderline ridiculous.

        • October 24, 2016 at 6:48 pm

          Fucking Kathleen Kennedy and Disney….

    • October 25, 2016 at 7:48 am

      They’ve already confirmed that a movie is coming in 2020, so….

  • October 24, 2016 at 4:05 pm

    A lot of it depends on getting the hair right. Han is in the hair.

  • October 24, 2016 at 5:42 pm

    And it seems that all the fears about this movie are coming true…

    • October 24, 2016 at 6:46 pm

      SHUT. THE FUCK. UP. I’m so SICK of seeing your PURE UTTER HATRED for this goddamned project. We GET it. You HATE it. NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP.

      • October 24, 2016 at 6:48 pm

        Wow. Step away from the computer and get some air dude. To be absolutely fair, I really, really want to give this thing a chance given Lord and Miller as the creative team, but this is exactly the kind of fan-wankery I also have been worried they’ll try to shoehorn in. It’s still possible this can work, but my real worry is that this is just the start of showing stuff that doesn’t need to be shown. Next up, Han actually won the Falcon from Lando so he could make the Kessel Run, where he had to dump his shipment of spice.

        • October 24, 2016 at 6:54 pm

          Stow it, Cranky. I’ve had e-goddamn-nough of his attitude and I’m not afraid of stating my opinions.

          • October 24, 2016 at 8:05 pm

            You’re not stating opinions; nowhere in there did you offer an opinion of any kind. What you’re doing is screaming at people over a pew-pew space movie. That’s crazy.

          • October 24, 2016 at 9:25 pm

            So, “I’m sick of seeing your utter hatred” isn’t an opinion? Huh, thought it was, my mistake I suppose.

          • October 25, 2016 at 2:47 am

            LOL Says the guy who does the exact same thing.

          • October 25, 2016 at 7:47 am

            The irony is palpable.

        • October 24, 2016 at 6:58 pm

          Okay, “stow it” went too far. I’m sorry.

        • October 25, 2016 at 2:45 am

          Re: “my real worry is that this is just the start of showing stuff that
          doesn’t need to be shown. Next up, Han actually won the Falcon from
          Lando so he could make the Kessel Run, where he had to dump his shipment
          of spice.”

          Exactly my concern.
          However, you left out that:
          Han met/rescued Chewie & justified the Life-Debt….so Chewie paid back favor by saving Han from a bad run-in w/Greedo & IG88 on way to the game w/Lando. 😉

          Some organically included, preferably minimal, back-story / fan-service….ok… but it’s a very valid concern they’ll go too far & the story/characters will suffer for the sake of shoe-horning things in.

      • October 24, 2016 at 7:45 pm

        no…what a child. My pure hatred…lol

        • October 24, 2016 at 9:26 pm

          Yes, I’m the only child in this exchange, and you’re the mature adult that hates something before it comes out.

          • October 24, 2016 at 11:41 pm

            Hate is a strong word I never used. I’ve stated over many times, it’s unnecessary and not wanted by many. And is a clear, pure cash grab.

            I haven’t cursed at anyone or told them off because I didn’t agree.

            Calm down…just a forum with differing opinions.

        • October 24, 2016 at 9:30 pm

          Welp, I’m gonna apologize for my bullshit. I’m just upset that people aren’t giving this film a chance before it even hits production, based on some delusional idea of “not touching perfection”. I was very, very wrong, and I’m sorry I was such a little shit.

          • October 25, 2016 at 2:46 am

            Cw is actually a pretty decent and reasonable guy. He just has some abrupt opinions. He’s completely engage-able in substantive debate and he is willing to reflect on what opinions you offer to counter his own.

            Thanks for apologizing. We all lose our minds here sometimes. Nature of the beast. Star Wars is life.

          • October 25, 2016 at 3:45 am


      • October 24, 2016 at 7:47 pm

        what are you about 12, you love to cuss and spew at people for having an opinion that differs from yours. Just move on, Kid!

      • October 24, 2016 at 9:14 pm

        Calm your tits yo

    • October 24, 2016 at 8:21 pm

      Yeah, I had the same feeling. I don’t doubt it will be a rock solid awesome product. But since the main character (SPOILER ALERT) got killed of in the most recent starwars film, is this even relevant? And more so relevant in 2-3 years? Last hope is that something happens in ep VIII that will make this backstory relevant.

  • October 24, 2016 at 7:22 pm

    For all the haters/ extremely-not-liking-this-ers, see below.

    So Kasdan said they’re not gonna make an origin story. Of course they are gonna show some elements alluded to in the OT, I just hope it won’t be a checking all the boxes kinda film, like some other posters said.

    I think, considering the talent involved, if this film does turn out better than most expect, a sequel might be a possibility. If they want to do that, perhaps some of those boxes will be left unchecked in this film.

    • October 24, 2016 at 7:59 pm

      Yes, the guy who literally just wrote a “Greatest Hits of the OT” for Episode 7 assures us it won’t be a “greatest hits of Han’s implied backstory”. You’ll understand perhaps why some of us remain skeptical.

      • October 24, 2016 at 8:10 pm

        I’m still skeptical too, I just tried to give it an optimistic aspect. Though that article came out a couple of weeks after VII, so it’s very possible the script already has had many alterations.

      • October 24, 2016 at 10:11 pm

        considering that han was the best part of that “greatest hits” film, i’d say we’re in good hands.

      • October 24, 2016 at 10:45 pm

        You missed the point. Again. As ever.

      • October 25, 2016 at 2:44 am

        That’s so weird. I feel the exact same way about every one of your posts.

  • October 24, 2016 at 7:40 pm

    Nothin like a good game of Sabacc to give me an erection!!

  • October 24, 2016 at 9:30 pm

    Back stories were more intesting when mentioned in passing, now everything is getting shot: clone wars, lando losing falcon to han, bobba fett as a kid. It takes all the coolness away.

    • October 25, 2016 at 2:43 am

      I hate to be the burden of bad news, but a back story that is only mentioned in “passing” isn’t a back story.

      • October 30, 2016 at 11:00 pm

        What is it called then? Inform me.

      • October 30, 2016 at 11:21 pm

        Nonsense, a backstory can be told in great detail or never at all. Doesn’t matter the length, if it happened in the past… M.F.’n B.A.C.K.S.T.O.R.Y.

        • October 31, 2016 at 5:01 am

          If it’s never told at all. It’s not a backstory. Way to +1 yourself.

          • November 1, 2016 at 9:50 pm

            Sorry nope you’re wrong. Thanks for playing

          • November 2, 2016 at 3:53 am

            Good argument.

          • November 3, 2016 at 12:06 am

            No point in arguing with a mule. On with more important things.

          • November 3, 2016 at 7:04 pm

            Yes, making up stories and facts in other disqus forums no doubt.

          • November 4, 2016 at 3:52 am

            All right foxstick, convincing someone like you that climate change is real or that the sky is blue when you insist it’s plaid is pretty impossible and a crushing waste of time but here I go anyway…

            —Oxford Dictionary—
            “A history or background created for a fictional character in a film or television programme. ex: ‘a brief prologue detailing our hero’s backstory’

            —Macmillan Dictionary—
            “a set of events invented for a book, film, or play that have taken place before it begins.”

            “a story that tells what led up to the main story or plot (as of a film)”

            —Dictionary . com—
            “1. a narrative providing a history or background context, especially for a character or situation in a literary work, film, or dramatic series. 2.prequel. “

            —Quentin Tarantino—
            Bauer: “When you’re developing a character, what do you do to get into their mind? Do you do a kind of backstory on them? What do you do to get a character down?”

            TARANTINO: “That’s a very interesting question. Maybe I should actually—I don’t. I do that as an actor though. That’s very interesting. Maybe I should start doing that in my original stuff or even on this stuff. No in the case of Jackie Brown by the time I started writing the script I was pretty damn familiar with the material so I felt I knew these people. I don’t know, because part of that process is discovering them as I’m writing them. It’s different from acting. I won’t even think now about acting in a role where I didn’t do a back story for a character. Sit down with pen and paper and bring them up to this point. All right. But there’s a birthing process when you’re writing.”

            —George Miller—
            He is said to have created backstories for all his characters in Mad Max: Fury Road, including Doof, the Guitar Flamethrower. Did we ever hear his backstory in the movie, no, but there is one despite your numbskullery, and George and the actor know it.

            —Aaron Sorkin—
            “I don’t like to commit myself to anything in a character’s backstory until I have to.”

            —Al Pacino—
            On Heat. “I don’t know if I’ve ever said it… but I’ll say it. The character I play, he’s been around and he’s done a lot of stuff, and he also chips cocaine… [but we didn’t show it] just so you know where some of the behavior’s coming from.” That is a backstory unrevealed in the film, it helped Mann and Pacino inform the character.

            —Nathan Lane—
            On acting in the Good Wife: “I had a brief conversation with [co-creators] Robert and Michelle King, and then we just started shooting. Along the way, they would sort of leave me little clues as to what was going on with him. And then, I just sort of started to form my own little backstory for myself about Clarke Hayden.”

            —David Mamet—
            “Backstory is bull****.”

            Just because you don’t see the backstory doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Writers and actors make them up all the time to help them to do the work of writing and acting.

            The common thread to all of these examples is that there is no hard and fast rule to backstory like you say. Anyone can do it any way they want. Everyone does it differently. Or not at all.

            Or they expand on backstory by making prequels like Star Wars does, which I don’t care for for the most part, to circle back to my original thought. If it’s telling a completely new story then okay. But otherwise, I like it when something is hinted at or subtly mentioned like in Eps 4-6 to provide context for a relationship or motivation. Han Solo had a bounty hunter after him on Ord Mantell. It’s just mentioned in “passing”, they don’t get into it, and I don’t want to know how or what actually happened because it’s cooler and more thrilling to guess than have it demystified.

            So there go. You don’t know what you’re talking about, and no doubt you’ll reply with massively throbbing hubris. I hope you don’t breed, I’d feel sorry for your kids.

          • November 4, 2016 at 1:38 pm

            Never argued what a back story is. But a passing mention of something that happens in a characters past or single reference to an event does not constitute a story.

            Nice work though on the research. Too bad it was an enormous waste of time.

          • November 4, 2016 at 6:05 pm

            You flipflopped your own claim within the same sentence. You’re a slippery mf. Oh well.

          • November 6, 2016 at 3:30 pm

            No I didnt. Still pointing out that a one word or vague reference to the past does not constitute a backstory. Even if a characters creator has stated it exists but refuses to share it. The character doesn’t have a past that is discernible in the story.

          • November 10, 2016 at 8:25 pm

            I disagree.

          • November 11, 2016 at 12:44 am

            Yes, I know.

          • November 11, 2016 at 4:28 pm


          • November 11, 2016 at 6:26 pm

            No last word for you.

          • November 15, 2016 at 6:51 am

            Round and round we go

          • November 15, 2016 at 1:56 pm


          • November 19, 2016 at 4:08 pm


          • November 20, 2016 at 3:26 am

            Keep trying.

          • November 20, 2016 at 11:36 pm

          • November 21, 2016 at 3:42 am


  • October 24, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    It’s amazing how much time some people spend belaboring a movie they claim they will never see. “I won’t see this movie, but I’ll sure as hell spend hours upon hours online talking about it.”

    • October 24, 2016 at 10:03 pm

      its not exactly what they wanted so they need to get out the pitchforks.

      • October 25, 2016 at 1:01 am

        They don’t even know what they want.

      • October 25, 2016 at 4:05 am

        It’s SW, so I’ll watch it…but will certainly complain about it being made.

        It just seems an unnecessary movie, and personally I’d like to see something away from that era. SWTOR or a Bane trilogy would be more exciting, let Han Solo be, just caught myself. Wrapped up in my opinion.

        • October 25, 2016 at 7:10 am

          those ideas you listed would be great for us, but if they made those films right now they’d do poorer business at the box office. lucasfilm is buying brand loyalty with their more well known properties today so they can do the deeper cut stuff later on, just like marvel is doing.

          • October 25, 2016 at 2:02 pm

            No doubt, but running a risk of diminishing a beloved character.

          • October 25, 2016 at 2:49 pm

            Crystal Skull didn’t diminish Indiana Jones. The prequels didn’t make Vader any less bad ass in the OT.

            It will be fine. If we don’t like it, we can put it aside. It may be canon but Han is dead now and whatever happens in this film won’t affect future stories in the ST.

          • October 25, 2016 at 4:31 pm

            Well, Crystal Skull…., kinda one that I think a lot of people may like to forget . I’d rather they let Indy alone as well.

            But you are right, it didn’t damage Indy, but it did remind many that maybe we didn’t really need another Indy film. And you know me, I thought the prequels added dimension to Vader. We could argue with execution of them for sure.

            I just hate that if it isn’t good that we would have to put anything in this universe aside. But, that is the reality of it in the end.

          • October 25, 2016 at 7:17 pm

            Give them a chance. I’m just not going to be negative until I see it. I for one am not uber excited about a Han Solo stand alone. There are a lot of things that I question about it. But so far, Lucas Film has been doing their best to give us good Star Wars movies and media.

            They gave themselves a really dumb schedule. They should have spaced films out a little bit more to gauge fan reaction better, but they do seem to be tailoring things to our expectations to a degree.

            My advice; wait for the movie to drop. State your concerns, but how can any of us say “Hey this SUCKS” when we haven’t seen it yet?

            No, we didn’t ask for it. But it’s coming. So why get bum hurt about a film we know almost nothing about? Why doom and gloom it? Don’t have to jump up and down and scream for joy either.

          • October 25, 2016 at 7:33 pm

            Absolutely, I’d like to have seen at least a two year gap for all films.

            Opinion on the making of this is largely based on the red flags that keep popping up….but it could surprise me especially since expectations are low.

            It’ll also be interesting to see the numbers from Rogue One. That’s what will influence the direction of these.

          • October 26, 2016 at 2:43 am

            I 100% agree on Rogue One. It is their great experiment. How to make the stand alone films, how to present them to make them feel different than the saga trilogies, how to market them.

            I think it’ll be a success. The movie does look good, but we’ve been tricked by trailers before.

            I have faith in a Director who can literally recite the entire script of A New Hope by heart. But it could suck, and it would change everything. Hopefully for the better.

          • October 26, 2016 at 4:50 am

            Yeah, I like him as well. And I do have high expectations for it. I’m grasping, but hope they’ll mention Kyle Katarn as a nod to the EU.

          • October 26, 2016 at 7:44 am

            Oh man you don’t know how long it took for me to mentally remove PT-Anakin from beneath OT-Vader’s mask

        • October 25, 2016 at 2:45 pm

          They made a plan to expand upon the OT in 2012, so that’s what they’re doing. At the time LFL viewed it as necessary to win back older fans who did not like the prequels.

          New prequel content was all that was generated from 99 until the purchase. I think we may see something different for the third anthology movie since LFL should realize that even we OT diehards will want to see something new by then. 5’yearsnin the same era will equate to a level of burnout in interest among all fans.

          But if you pay close attention to the reshaping of the dynamic within the Star Wars Universe of what a Force user looks like (i.e. Not everyone who uses the Force is Jedi and Sith) it would appear the LFL is slowly trying to introduce new elements that can take the story in new directions.

          I do think we will get Old Republic movies eventually but it will take a while. Most people have no idea what that era looks like or even understands what it is. LFL isn’t going to put out something that will confuse your average movie goer, TOR will.

          Look at Rogue One. People still don’t understand this is not Episode VIII.

          • October 25, 2016 at 4:24 pm

            you’re right about the confusion with Rogue One…I have had to explain so many times to people what the new one is about.

            I think by the time this new Solo movie arrives, we will be at the burnout point that you mention. Between Rebels and depending on how Rogue One goes. (crossing fingers that it will rock) of course.

            I also fear the actors will have double duty as they will be trying to play Harrison…playing solo and the same with Lando. We’ll see soon enough.

          • October 25, 2016 at 6:16 pm

            I hope it’s a good many years before Lucasfilm shifts their narrative focus back in time to tell stories from the Old Republic time period. I guess I liked some of that stuff enough, but I still feel like we JUST got away from that era. That was Lucasfilm’s focus for almost 15 years. I’m done with it for the time being.

          • October 25, 2016 at 7:14 pm

            The Old Republic is different than the Republic of the prequel trilogy.

          • October 25, 2016 at 9:41 pm

            I understand that. I’m not strictly referring to the movies, but rather to the larger narrative scope. The Old Republic was explored in video games, novels, and comic books. It’s time to walk away from it for a while.

  • October 25, 2016 at 1:01 am

    I totally expected this when they announced Lando was going to be in the movie at all. I mean the only super thing of note we know about was this mention of them being friends for a long time and he won the ship in a card game. I assume it’ll be quite a short scene though, how long can you drag out a card game that only like 10% of star wars fans understand how to play?

    • October 25, 2016 at 8:21 am

      Ha! Less than .01% of Star Wars fans have ever even heard of Sabacc.

      • October 25, 2016 at 3:18 pm

        I doubt that!

        • October 25, 2016 at 6:54 pm

          We probably just have very different ideas of what a “Star Wars fan” is.

  • October 25, 2016 at 2:50 am


    What if it’s good?

    • October 25, 2016 at 6:06 pm

      If it’s good, people will see is multiple times, then come here and act like they hated it.

      • October 25, 2016 at 7:14 pm

        Nitpick, to be precise.

  • October 25, 2016 at 3:19 am

    So with the (TFA spoilers?) ending of TFA….maybe Disney wants to lessen the shock of seeing Rey as the captain of the Falcon in Ep VIII?

    For me it was jarring to see her piloting the Falcon at the end, knowing Han wasn’t going to be in the pilots seat ever again.

    Han beating Lando at game –
    Why I think it’s a bad idea vs other “fan service” back-stories they could’ve included more organically:
    1) Other mystery/backstory – meeting/rescuing Chewie (Life Debt) or Kessel Run could easily make for interesting plot if done right, where w/the “winning game” that’s not much plot by itself & will therefore more likely be shoe-horned into the other primary plot elements
    2) Timeline/options – In ESB it definitely appears that Han & Lando hadn’t seen ea other in a while & the mention of the loss of the Falcon seems implied to be a very *raw* topic that happened around the time the last met (if not the “swindling” comment referring directly to loss of ship & last time they’d met) …. this eliminates the option of further spin-off Han & Lando adventures. So either no more “buddy team” match-ups or just this solo, Solo film. 😉

  • October 25, 2016 at 2:19 pm

    Title image is beautiful. Those matte paintings in the OT…whew … sure glad they used practical effects… Ha ha ha ha no need for the ensuing fight, mostly poking fun at the one matte in OT that was really bad!!!

  • October 25, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    BUT…..Borys Kit didn’t say Lando would lose the Falcon in a game of sabacc specifically. Though it’s canon in Wookieepedia, that could very well change once the movie’s out. So…title of this article should probs change

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