J.J. Abrams Would Like to See a Spin-Off Movie About the Knights of Ren!


While promoting the latest chapter in the new Star Trek movies, director J.J. Abrams briefly spoke with Collider about which Star Wars story he would like to see as a spin-off movie…



J.J. Abrams directed the first two Star Trek movies which rebooted the franchise 7 years ago. Abrams couldn’t direct the third movie because of his decision to helm Star Wars: The Force Awakens, but he does serve as a producer of the franchise’s third film since the reboot.


Star Trek Beyond hits theaters this week and Abrams has been doing the rounds promoting the movie. Speaking to Collider’s Steve Weintraub, Abrams revealed what he would like to see in a future Star Wars spin-off movie:

“I gotta say Kathy Kennedy, who’s running it all, she seems to be pushing all the right buttons. There isn’t something that I’d love to see—I guess the one thing I would say is there’s a Knights of Ren story that I think would be pretty cool to tell.”


Knights of Ren


This sounds like a really good idea. We caught a quick glimpse of the Knights of Ren during Rey’s Force vision in The Force Awakens. Very little is known about this dark side organization. We know that they operated under the command of Supreme Leader Snoke and that Kylo Ren was a member of the mysterious group.


There is also a group called “The Acolytes of the Beyond” in Chuck Wendig’s Aftermath trilogy that many have speculated are a sort of precurser to the group.  But beyond Snoke, Kylo, and some speculation, we don’t have much else to go on concerning the Knights of Ren.


Here’s Wookieepedia’s entry on them:

The Knights of Ren included Kylo Ren, whom Supreme Leader Snoke, the leader of these forces of darkness, referred to as a master of the Knights of Ren. As a member of the Knights of Ren, Kylo was not part of the formal hierarchy of the First Order but nonetheless operated with freedom among the military command, who tolerated his presence with some hesitation as his agenda trumped their own. Kylo wore a black and silver combat helmet based on the battle gear worn by the Knights of Ren.

The Knights of Ren operated in the decades following the Galactic Civil War. They were under the command of Supreme Leader Snoke, who used them as a tool of the dark side of the Force alongside the First Order. The Knights of Ren slew Luke Skywalker’s generation of Jedi. Rey, a Force-sensitive scavenger who hailed from Jakku, saw the Knights of Ren in a vision.


We probably will get more answers on this mysterious organization in Rian Johnson’s Episode VIII. Do you like J.J’s idea on this? Tell us what you think in the comments below.


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83 thoughts on “J.J. Abrams Would Like to See a Spin-Off Movie About the Knights of Ren!

  • July 19, 2016 at 7:07 pm

    That wouldn’t be a bad show. But I really want to see the Fall of Ben Solo in Animated form.

    • July 19, 2016 at 8:49 pm

      Yeah I would like to see a Clone Wars stye animation for the period between RotJ and TFA. Rebels is filling in the gaps for between RotS and ANH, so I guess we have to hope!

      • July 19, 2016 at 9:27 pm

        Me too. I like Rebels but I miss seeing all my favorite classic star wars characters regularly like Yoda, Mace, Anakin, Obi-wan, and so on… Rebels characters are great but it would be nice to get another look at classic characters we grew up with.

        I mean just imagine a show where Luke Skywalker, Ben Solo and other new Jedi go on peace keeping missions while slowly watching the seeds of evil in Ben and conversing with long dead Jedi’s force ghosts. The shows last episode could be the fall of Luke’s Jedi. It would just be amazing!!

  • July 19, 2016 at 7:08 pm

    I think it would be really cool to see if executed properly of course. 🙂

  • July 19, 2016 at 7:11 pm

    Hell yes! Though I still think an Obi-Wan movie with Ewan should be next up.

    • July 19, 2016 at 8:02 pm

      Agree 100%

    • July 19, 2016 at 8:12 pm

      Hell yeah on both counts. I think Ewan as Obi-Wan is a must and should come first. Then later on a Knights of Ren-centric film.

    • July 20, 2016 at 12:37 am

      Although casting wise I’d love to see Ewan reprise the role, I’m not convinced it’s a good idea for a movie in general. There’s a lot more room for a good story with Solo.

  • July 19, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    While after watching alden elrienich or whathever in Hail, Cesar! I got more convinced of him as Han Solo than I was, I would t.rade whathever is in works as third spin off with that concept!

  • July 19, 2016 at 7:29 pm

    It is quite clear that the backstory of the Knights of Ren is perfect for an anthology movie. I’m afraid they would have to recast though the younger versions e.g. of Ben Solo, Leia Organa and Luke Skywalker.

    • July 19, 2016 at 8:01 pm

      Plus their various weapons are perfectly designed for action figures which kids can keep buying.

      • July 19, 2016 at 10:13 pm

        I’m seeing a line of customizable Nerf weapons for this. 🙂

    • July 19, 2016 at 10:50 pm

      I’d be down for a clone wars type of show with Luke’s Jedi order and their adventures..it would eventually lead to Ben’s turn to the dark side..and if you give a season later down the line a time jump we can get some back story on the knights of Ren as well.

    • July 20, 2016 at 1:46 am

      Agreed. The story sounds fun but I’m not interested in seeing Luke and Leia recast. Animated series sounds great!

    • July 20, 2016 at 3:41 pm

      You don’t need to recast Kylo Ren in order to make him 10 years younger. It’s all make-up! If Robert Downey Jr. can play a teenage Tony Stark in Civil War, Adam Driver can as well. And btw. Robert Downey Jr. is in his 50s

  • July 19, 2016 at 8:00 pm

    I would like to see ANYTHING about Knights of Ren.

  • July 19, 2016 at 8:05 pm

    Whoa wait… I kind of thought their existence and part of the story was important. Like we’d learn more about them in the following episodes. Guess not 🙁

    That said… then hell yes I’d love a spin-off. Here’s an idea. Replace that third spin-off (possibly Boba Fett movie) that got shelved with this idea!

  • July 19, 2016 at 8:19 pm

    Here is how I would pitch story
    It is 15 years before TFA, Sebastian Stan plays younger Luke,a bit of mysterious Luke, and Jacob Tremblay plays younger Ben Solo (I am thinking to if they make that movie for 5 years from now,Jacob would be 15,and Stan would be a bit older also) It would be amazing story,how Snoke actually corrupted Ben Solo to The Dark Side,how he killed all of Luke’s apprentices, and we would see rising of first Knights of Ren. End of the movie would be Luke went missing,because he feels he let down his sister and all he loves.It would e amazing story,with amazing actors,and I would really love to see that

  • July 19, 2016 at 8:29 pm

    These guys are just too weak if their leader is Ben Ren…no thanks. How about a Bane trilogy!!! A real sith!

    • July 19, 2016 at 8:47 pm

      Kylo is biggest badass in the galaxy. He stopped blast with the force, he is merciless, he survived Chewie’s bowcaster, but people call him whiny bitch only because when he removed helmet,he didn’t look like people expected,but that as point of a character

      • July 19, 2016 at 9:58 pm


      • July 20, 2016 at 9:17 am

        He’s a whiny bitch because of his personality, just like Anakin

        • July 22, 2016 at 2:45 pm

          Except with better performance and dialogue.

    • July 19, 2016 at 10:43 pm

      Sad. You do realize that she is not physically present in that scene during Rey’s vision, correct?

      • July 20, 2016 at 6:24 am

        Huh…just saying he’s still a puss.

        • July 20, 2016 at 12:16 pm

          Technically, he didn’t run away. He just had his backside handed to him. There is a difference 🙂

      • July 19, 2016 at 11:12 pm

        this ^^^^^

        • July 19, 2016 at 11:36 pm

          Clearly obi-wan is a pansy!

      • July 20, 2016 at 6:23 am


      • July 20, 2016 at 5:44 pm

        Brilliant. Well played.

      • July 22, 2016 at 2:49 pm

        This is gold.

    • July 20, 2016 at 12:10 pm

      Theories suggest that the knights of Ren (possibly the dark covenante in the Aftermath book series) worship Vader and his heritage. It would make sense for them to worship the grandchild of Vader too, even if every single one of them as stronger than Kylo.

  • July 19, 2016 at 9:07 pm

    Maybe he should have just fleshed them out more in his own movie.
    Seeing as he’s the one who introduced them.

    • July 19, 2016 at 10:43 pm

  • July 19, 2016 at 11:36 pm

    I would really like to see this.

    The backstory should focus on the 6 other KOR. Ben Solo/Kylo Ren should appear in the final act. No need for the likes of Leia or Han to even be mentioned.

  • July 19, 2016 at 11:36 pm

    I think it’d be perfect as a book.

  • July 19, 2016 at 11:42 pm

    So, Kylo Ren is their leader and he is the strongest of them. But this guy got his ass kicked and his face scarred by a little girl that didn’t have a single day of lightsaber training, thought that Luke and Force were a myth! My guess is that these guys would be terrible fighters, that would explain why they’re all dead, probably killed by random people! Great idea for a film JJ Abrams! What about quitting Hollywood for good? That’s an even greater idea.

    • July 20, 2016 at 12:12 am

      And yet Rey had to survive on Jakku for 20 years using a STAFF the same as General Grevious did in his legends origins

      • July 20, 2016 at 12:29 am

        Guess who else had to leave for 20 years or more on Jakku? Every fucking creature you see in the movie, yet she is introduced by stealing the droid from another scavenger who didn’t even put a fight. And then she shows up at the market kicking some thieves asses. How did these guys survive on Jakku without developping Jedi mastery??!!!

        • July 20, 2016 at 12:06 pm

          That Teedo was how tall like 1,5m? Also you don’t know how many encounters they have had before. There was plenty of time to kick his butt before TFA happened. Just because something isn’t shown on screen doesn’t mean you are not allowed to use your imagination. As far as the thugs are concerned. Have you never seen a skinny dude or girl who owned much larger opponents?…

        • July 22, 2016 at 2:44 pm

          How many humans on Jakku?

          • July 23, 2016 at 12:02 pm

            Ohhh, she’s human now. I thought it’s just a fantasy movie where characaters are not human that would explain her super strengh. Why would humans be strong thatn aliens though? First thing we think would be the opposite, humans are not specially strong, they are more of brain creatures than gorillas. As for Rey, she’s a very skinny petite woman, why would she be the stronger creature on Jakku? She should be the weakest thing walking on that planet actually

          • July 23, 2016 at 8:48 pm

            You actually got my point without getting my point lol. (I love language – we are truly brain creatures!)

            “She should be the weakest thing walking on that planet actually”

            Exactly. And she’s had to survive, and she’s done it successfully, against odds. So she is a tough cookie, likely just as prepared to enter the ensuing conflict more than most might be.

          • July 23, 2016 at 11:48 pm

            If she was hardened by a rough life on that hostile planet, she wouldn’t look like how she did, a very thin petite woman with pristine skin and posh english accent from the high society. DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE

          • July 24, 2016 at 8:48 pm

            So now we are applying Earth accent logic to the galaxy far, far away? No.

            She’s strong in the Force, she can be whatever she wants to be – which is the point of the hero’s journey.

          • July 25, 2016 at 1:54 pm

            No, that’s not the hero’s journey, the hero struggles before overcoming his dfiiculties. “she can be whatever she wants to be” is the Disney heroine journey, and they have nothing to do with each other, they are opposite. One learns his skills and earns his victory, the other is born with them, doesn’t deserve anything he’s got because he didn’t work for them.

          • July 25, 2016 at 4:43 pm

            Yes, Rey did learn to survive.

            Like Luke learned to fly a starfighter with the best pilots in the galaxy.

            Like Anakin learned to build the fastest podracer ever.

            The hero’s journey isn’t about learning specific abilities – its confronting fears and family/parental legacy and becoming something new and different.

          • July 25, 2016 at 9:43 pm

            Rey didn’t learn anything, it was granted automatically the moment she needed it. She pilots the Falcon better than Hans Solo on her first try. No explanation as to how an abandoned orphan living alone on a stranded planet, barely finding food somehow got her ace pilot licence. She knows the Jedi mind trick when she needs it, although she never heard about it. She becomes a Jedi Master in lighstaber duel the moment she touched it for the first time!
            Rey is just like Kathleen Kennedy, she filled a female quota, no skills needed. Btw Star Wars under this woman and Spielberg reeks nepotism and inbreeding. And everybody knows that it only produces ugly, deformed, reatrded and importent offsprings. That’s exactly what TFA is.

          • July 25, 2016 at 10:23 pm

            Right, and girls are dressing up as Rey because Kennedy bribed them too.

            The lack of your imagination is striking.

            Here in the real world, TFA is loved. You’re welcome to come back to it. You’re mere mention of Spielberg is insidious.

          • July 26, 2016 at 12:35 am

            Cosplaying and toy figurines are two different things. In fact, girls do cosplay more than boy, they craft their own costumes and love posing for photos. That’s perfectly normal to see a lot of Rey cosplayers, I don’t think you saw a lot Finn’s though. As for the toys, it’s a boys thing, period, and Hasbro knows this very well, that’s why they focus on male toys.

            No, star wars conventions aren’t the real world, it’s a gathering of fanboys who would swallow anything that is slapped with a Star Wars logo. The real world sees TFA as a very generic sci fi movie that copied the plot of an older movie that is infinitely superior.

            As for Spielberg, he is responsible for Kathleen Kennedy, JJ Abrams, Shia Laboeuf, Alden Ehrenreich and God knows what other hacks he helped get into Hollywood. This guy is a plague, he’s bringing his buddies into Star Wars, hijacking the natural selection process based on skills. Now , if you want to play or direct Star Wars, you only need to be friend with SPielberg and his entourage

          • July 26, 2016 at 4:35 am

            Oh, so you just hate successful filmmakers…..got it.

            Also, Lincoln.

          • July 26, 2016 at 1:17 pm

            The latest Spielberg movie I’ve watched is Crystal Skull, I’m done with this guy, he’s become a joke. A.I. , Minority Report and War of the Worlds were already pretty bad. The guy didn’t make a good movie since Jurassic Park. He should stick to producing Transformers sequels. I wish he’d stayed away from George Lucas. Now we have to suffer under Spielberg’s Star Wars. And btw, Michael Bay is a successful filmmaker too.

          • July 26, 2016 at 4:48 pm

            Minority Report is a great science fiction film.

          • July 26, 2016 at 9:18 pm

            Minority report is 20 years from Blade Runner and is laughable. It aged very badly .The cinematography was just ugly, some weird blue tint that gives you the puke, awful cgi and studio stunts . But the worse part is the script itself, it shows a society were cops arrest criminals before they commit their crimes. The premise is so wrong, any decent person would think it’s wrong and that this totalitarian police is going to be brought down by the end of the movie. Not at all, the main character is just that, an agent of that evil police.
            That’s why I despise Spielberg, he’s always been a propaganda filmmaker, his films are the exact opposite of George Lucas movies. If Spielberg rebooted THX1138, it would be about a cop dealing with some prisoners who refuse to comply.

          • July 26, 2016 at 9:45 pm

            FYI: Minority Report is fiction, like Anakin deciding to turn to the Dark Side, or Padme marrying a self-admitted genocidal maniac.

          • July 26, 2016 at 10:28 pm

            Blade Runner is a fiction too, but it’s a masterpiece and is still highly regarded today. Minority Report is completely forgotten along with most Spielberg’s films

          • July 27, 2016 at 10:12 pm

            Most Spielberg’s films are forgotten? I mean, you’ve always demonstrated a certain amount of delusion, but this might take the cake. The list of dumb things you way gets ever longer.

          • July 27, 2016 at 10:17 pm

            “No, star wars conventions aren’t the real world, it’s a gathering of fanboys who would swallow anything that is slapped with a Star Wars logo.”

            And yet, you see nothing wrong with spending an inordinate amount of time spewing your laughable conspiracies on a Star Wars website. You probably spend more time doing that, than most folks actually spend at these conventions.

    • July 20, 2016 at 6:07 am

      We don’t know her background. It’s still possible she was a padawan before Jakku but has lost her memory.

    • July 20, 2016 at 6:22 pm

      How are people still complaining about this?
      1. HE was messed up… he just killed his dad.

      2. He took a direct hit from Chewie’s bowcaster, which had been decimating people the whole movie. (the fact that he survived is either a testiment to his strength, or because Chewie didn’t want to actually kill him. Regardless…. he was injured big time).

      3. Rey is powerful. the title was ‘The Force Awakens’… it refers to her. She isn’t just some girl. Did you see that extreme reaction from the force that she experienced when she touched Luke’s lightsaber?

  • July 20, 2016 at 12:48 am

    You know what would have been even better than a spin-off about the Knights of Ren? An explanation of who they are in TFA.

    • July 22, 2016 at 2:43 pm

      They’re not in TFA. They’re bad guys.

      That’s all that’s necessary.

  • July 20, 2016 at 4:45 am

    we need a reason to give a shit about the Knights of Ren before I can even fathom a novel about them let alone a movie.

  • July 20, 2016 at 5:16 am

    Yes!! Show more in episode 8

  • July 20, 2016 at 5:27 am

    hey JJ get out of my star wars please thank you bye bye don’t come back please take with you all your dumb mystery boxes please …

    • July 20, 2016 at 11:37 am

      “your” Star Wars

      • July 20, 2016 at 5:42 pm

        “Your” LMAO!

    • July 20, 2016 at 6:16 pm

      TFA was awesome 🙂 Saw it 7 times in Theaters, and pre-ordered the Bluray. You must be in the small small small percentage of people who can’t be pleased. Your opinion is insignificant, next to the power of the force.

  • July 20, 2016 at 6:05 am

    I imagine the knights to be like the Hitler youth and like the death eaters from Harry Potter. JK Rowling should write the script and it should be in parallel with Lukes Jedi academy. A young adult story about choosing between light and dark side.

  • July 20, 2016 at 10:41 am

    Jesus. Too much hate even in news like this. J.J. this, Kylo Ren that… Fgs!
    Past weeks without so much news has led to the emergence of lots of boring people.

  • July 20, 2016 at 10:49 am

    There has been an awakening. Have you felt it? Episode 7 gets worse with each viewing, doesn’t it? Amazing how JJ blew it.

    • July 20, 2016 at 2:34 pm

      In your awakening anyways.

    • July 20, 2016 at 3:29 pm

      lol. speak for yourself

    • July 20, 2016 at 4:53 pm


    • July 21, 2016 at 3:02 am

      It was bad the first time I viewed it. Love how a desert scavenger is a expert mechanic, pilot,light saber user and Jedi. Also love how they where able to see the super laser destroy 5 planets on the opposite side of the galaxy real time.

      • July 22, 2016 at 2:42 pm

        You just described TPM and ANH.

  • July 20, 2016 at 11:24 am

    I have a bad feeling about this. If JJ want to give us more background in a spinoff movie that probably means that relatively little background for the knights of Ren is planed for ep8 and ep9.

  • July 20, 2016 at 3:32 pm

    so much hate here… funny thing is. When Obi Wan talked about the Clone Wars in Ep 4 nobody blinked an eye for over 20 years.
    Snoke says one word about the Knights of Ren and everybody keeps loosing it. Calm down guys. We will learn enough about the Knights of Ren when the time is right…

    • July 20, 2016 at 7:11 pm

      for most of my childhood I figured the clone wars involved people fighting clones of themselves. it was cool because during the OT era it was a mysterious backstory that we could all imagine in our own way. not so anymore

  • July 20, 2016 at 7:34 pm

    I wonder how the hell KOR took out all of Luke’s Jedi? Kylo the leader isn’t powerful enough to defeat Rey who just learned how to use the force but killed dozens if not hundreds of Jedi in training and somehow bested Luke? Episode 8 and the new canon has a lot of explaining to do.

  • July 20, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    Would like to know more but no thanks for the spin-off film. I know it probably won’t happen, but it would be really cool if they just made a movie in the star wars setting that didn’t have a connection to the saga films or a very small connection. Something new with new characters that doesn’t have the boundaries that prequels or certain kinds spin-offs have.

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