SPECULATION The Lost Jedi: What an Obi-Wan Anthology film might look like?

Obi-wan-Ben-KenobThere have been rumblings over the last few months.  Rumblings is a hyperbolic term often used by entertainment industry reporters and/or film site writers to describe movement on a project and it’s key players. Those key players could include actors, writers, producers, and directors. In the Star Wars fandom world, there has been a great deal of rumblings regarding a potential Obi-Wan Kenobi film or films. Adding to this, Ewan McGregor, the only other live-action actor to portray the Obi-Wan aside from the late Sir Alec Guinness, has gone on record since Disney purchased Lucasfilm in 2013 that he would be willing to return to the role of Obi-Wan Kenobi.

 

 

These rumblings, coupled with McGregor’s vocal support, make an Obi-Wan film set between the end of Revenge of the Sith and the beginning of A New Hope extremely likely, if not, inevitable. The fan chorus for this film is only going to get louder, and with recent release of Marvel’s Star Wars #7, an issue dedicated entirely to a day in the life of Obi-Wan’s Tatooine purgatory/exile, the stories are already on Lucasfilm’s Story Group radar.

 

One thing to be sure of before moving on. This piece is ENTIRELY SPECULATION. SW7News has received NO insider information from ANY source about a Kenobi film or any other Kenobi story on Lucasfilm’s schedule. We are merely brainstorming and having a little fun here.  Please, please, please keep that in mind while you read ahead.  Ewan McGregor’s expressed interest is the only thing that raised our collective eyebrows. This piece reflects an email chain between it’s authors, DEKKA129 and Kyle.  These are their ideas of what a film might look like.

 

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Let’s assume it’s a singular Anthology film.  As of yet, there is still one remaining Anthology film to be announced. We have Rogue One and Han Solo covered, and many fans speculate the last of the three films will be a Boba Fett story. Let’s pretend that Boba Fett will be a key player in either one or both Rogue One and Han Solo. Boba Fett fans will be sated considering he has been given a fair amount of screen time in the canon if you take the Prequel Trilogy, The Clone Wars, the Original Trilogy, and his numerous appearances in the new Marvel books (also a potential Rebels appearance). Let’s assume the Story Group decide to turn their focal point to answer questions that have been on many a-Star Wars fan’s mind: What was Obi-Wan Kenobi doing while waiting for Luke to grow-up? Did he ever leave to go on some “damned, fool idealistic crusade”? Did he ever help the Rebels before he got “too old for this sort of thing”?

 

Per Yoda’s instructions, Obi-Wan was to learn to become one with the Force at the end of Revenge of the Sith. We saw that was no short journey for Yoda and took him to some pretty far out places in the galaxy. Obi-Wan succeeds in this training, so we have to assume he at least left Tatooine for that. That journey could definitely play a huge part of an Anthology film’s plot. It’s new ground for a lot of casual fans that never followed The Clone Wars series and may not have interest in revisiting that period in the Star Wars canon. That would be interesting to see, no doubt, but it might not be enough to carry an entire, 2-hour film.

 

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There is another pressing issue here. One of the most confusing things about the connective tissue from the Prequel Trilogy to the Sequel Trilogy is the turbulent relationship between Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker. The two of them bickered, often spoke of their resentments of the other, and generally did not seem to be very good friends. The Clone Wars did a pretty good job of trying to clean up this murky issue, but the only point in the Prequel Trilogy that suggests Obi-Wan’s emotional attachment to his former apprentice is when he cries out to a limbless Anakin after he has already condemned him to death. Obi-Wan never tried to save Anakin when he discovered his turn to the Dark Side. His mind was made up, with a push from Yoda, that Anakin was gone. There was no redemption…Obi-Wan went to Mustafar to take Anakin out.

 

Here’s the problem. Down the road, in Return of the Jedi, Darth Vader says to Luke, who is in the midst of trying to convince his father there is still a piece of the good Anakin Skywalker, “Obi-Wan once thought as you do…” Vader trails off for a moment before resuming. Those few seconds suggest there is another story about to be told about Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader.

 

So…we have a film that could involve Obi-Wan leaving Tatooine to complete his training. Let’s speculate a bit and say Obi-Wan sets off from Tatooine and along his way there he runs into a bump. The bump could be variety of things; his ship malfunctions and he has to land on an Imperial planet; he receives a distress call he cannot ignore; or he finds out an old friend (Bail Organa, Ahsoka Tano, etc.) needs his help. A writer could roll all of those into one: Obi-Wan is forced to land on an Imperial planet due to a ship malfunctioning, he encounters a cell of the burgeoning Rebel Alliance lead by someone he knew from the Clone Wars, and they need his help. Whatever the bind the Rebel cell is in, it has to be big enough for Obi-Wan to risk himself and the protection of Luke Skywalker. Perhaps the Rebels are going after the Emperor directly or trying to rescue a host of Jedi Knights that may be in captivity.

 

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Remember these are hypotheticals, so insert whatever dilemma you like, but whatever it is, Obi-Wan lends his skills to the cause and off the film goes. Somewhere along this journey, Darth Vader gets involved. Obi-Wan is brought face-to-face with Vader by the end of the film and senses something he did not on Mustafar…Anakin Skywalker. Hear me out. In the new canon, a great deal of ink has been dedicated to the inner monologue of Darth Vader. If you have not read any of these yet, all you need to know is Vader is anything but settled in his turn to the Dark Side of the Force; whether it be his subservience to Darth Sidious or the death of Padme, Vader is a Sith Lord conflicted. The authors of these novels and comics, who are under the guidance of the Story Group, are no doubt planting the seeds leading to the climax in Return of the Jedi. Back to the Obi-Wan film, the Jedi Master feels these parts of Anakin growing inside of Vader and tries to convince the Sith Lord to embrace them and that it’s not too late. They duel, Vader dominates Obi-Wan, but does not kill him, and Obi-Wan escapes. Through some means, the filmmakers show Vader obviously let Obi-Wan escape, but it’s not obvious to Obi-Wan. Maybe it’s not obvious to Vader, either. The film ends with Obi-Wan completing his training and returning to his life on Tatooine. They could even throw a young Luke Skywalker cameo in there. Sound good?

 

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There is also another possibility for an Obi-Wan film. In the early days of The Force Awakens plot and casting leaks, a character was rumored to be of Kenobi lineage. So, there’s that, and a Kenobi character very well could still play a crucial role in the Sequel Trilogy. Let’s pretend it is. Obi-Wan Kenobi is no longer a Jedi Knight and is no longer bound by their codes. Say Obi-Wan sets off on this journey to complete his Yoda-assigned training, encounters a Rebel cell, decides to help them, but instead of the aforementioned Vader conflict, it turns into a love/adventure story. Scratch Vader out all together and replace him with some up and coming, Imperial sap who is trying to move up the ranks by catching Obi-Wan themselves. As we learn with each new story in the canon featuring Vader, plenty of people were trying to step over him to get in Palpatine’s good graces. Scratch out Vader and the Imperials all together and make it a world that is something of a criminal hub. Have Obi-Wan working against whatever crime syndicate controls the world with the Imperials never getting a whiff of the seemingly forgotten Jedi Master.

 

Obi-Wan, who lost a woman he cared for, Satine Kryze of Mandalore, in the Clone Wars, embraces his attraction to whoever this new lady is, and they “get busy”. By the end of the film, Obi-Wan and she agree they have their own causes to fight for. He needs to return to Tatooine to watch over Luke and she needs to keep fighting the Empire. They go their separate ways with the knowledge they will probably never one and other again. The film never outright says she is pregnant with Obi-Wan’s child and that is something only explained in the Sequel Trilogy (which will have concluded by the time this Anthology film is released).

 

If a Kenobi shows up in the Sequel Trilogy fans are going to be screaming for an explanation. It would be pretty convenient at a ComicCon or Celebration panel to announce an Obi-Wan Kenobi Anthology film promising to tell the story of how a descendant of the Jedi Master came to be. In the Sequel Trilogy, the child, who at this point is an adult, could say their father’s identity and their Force abilities were hidden from them most of their adult life to protect them. The story of how another Kenobi came to be would be a mighty-big plot hole to leave in the Sequel Trilogy, but if fans knew a film was in the pipeline to explain this they would probably be a little forgiving. The Sequel Trilogy would also serve as a perfect tool to pump this Obi-Wan Anthology film up, as it would tell the backstory of a well-established Star Wars character (the son/daughter of Kenobi) while adding more to Obi-Wan’s story.

 

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Theoretically, Darth Vader could show up in this scenario, as well. Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader often spent a great deal of time meditating. This is expanded upon in the new canon and we could find Vader reaching out through the Force. Perhaps Vader gets close to finding Luke or Leia, and Obi-Wan throws his presence in front of it. They communicate through the Force, ala some sort of dream state, and Obi-Wand senses good in Vader. Vader tells Obi-Wan he’s foolish for thinking that and warns him to stay away. For a few moments, Obi-Wan really picks up on the shreds of Anakin, but then Vader sends the chills Kanan, Ezra, and Asohka felt in the last episode of Rebels; Obi-Wan is left convinced his former apprentice is forever lost.

 

There are many possibilities of how a Kenobi Anthology film could be made. These are just hypotheticals posed by myself. It is entirely speculative and everyone probably has their own idea of what Kenobi did in those years between the established trilogies. Everyone’s ideas and speculations have merit, but fans should rest assured whomever Kathleen Kennedy and the Lucasfilm team decide to bring onboard to write the stories in whatever medium it ends being told in, will no doubt find someone capable of telling a great story, whatever that story ends up being.

 

However this Anthology film or Obi-Wan’s story is told, fans should assume there is more Obi-Wan on the way. Whether that is in print, pixels, or celluloid remains to be seen; but  it would make NO SENSE for the powers-that-be to ignore one of the great Star Wars characters. We could watch a man tormented and driven by his own guilt, trying to make a small difference in the galaxy that he believes his mistakes altered terribly.

 

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There is no reason to believe Disney is going to stop writing big checks and green-lighting Star Wars projects across all media. Let’s hope some of those checks have the words “Kenobi Film” scrolled in the lower left hand MEMO box.

 

What do you all think? What are your thoughts for further Obi-Wan Kenobi adventures? Join or start that conversation in The Cantina!

 

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Kyle Larson lives in Portland, Oregon. When he's not running trails, he's reading and writing.

Kyle Larson

Kyle Larson lives in Portland, Oregon. When he's not running trails, he's reading and writing.

142 thoughts on “SPECULATION The Lost Jedi: What an Obi-Wan Anthology film might look like?

  • September 1, 2015 at 8:41 pm
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    this can go two extremes…really great or really bad. really great because i can watch it in a star wars marathon. really bad because of fan-service things like him meeting Vader before new hope but after revenge of the Sith. the same can be said for a Darth Vader anthology(which can easily turn into plotless fan-service of darth vader acting “badass” and doing nothing but killing jedi)

  • September 1, 2015 at 8:41 pm
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    If done right, I’d love to see a trilogy of Obi-Wan films, one every six-film cycle (first in 2020).

    That way we can gradually see Ewan reach Alec Guinness’ age and likeness in ANH by around 2032.

    • September 2, 2015 at 1:18 am
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      That would be excellent. Based on all of the issues, in all honesty an Obi Wan Anthology itself is porbbaly needed. I’d rather see Obi Wan films than Boba Fett.

      • September 2, 2015 at 1:26 am
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        Keep dreaming. Disney hates the PT and everything to do with it, remember?

        • September 3, 2015 at 6:05 am
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          Doesn’t mean it won’t cherry-pick some bright spots from that era to include in their new projects, like Ahsoka and several clone trooper characters in Rebels.

          I greatly dislike the Prequels, but I would love to see how Ewan would perform under Disney instead of Lucas.

  • September 1, 2015 at 8:46 pm
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    Or they could just do a movie about Obi Wan becoming a heroin addict in his trap house in Mos Eisley. And do a scene where he almost injects baby Luke with dope but ultimately decides not to after Qui Gon appears to him naked in a vision.

    • September 2, 2015 at 1:03 am
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      choose life.

    • September 2, 2015 at 1:30 am
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      Like the idea for an obi wan movie. But I can’t see it happening.

    • September 2, 2015 at 7:40 am
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      Hahaha

  • September 1, 2015 at 8:46 pm
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    A lot of great ideas here. I would just feel like having Vader & Kenobi reunite in battle would cause an issue with their dialogue on the Death Star where it is apparent the last time they met was the fateful duel on Mustafar.

    • September 1, 2015 at 10:50 pm
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      I don’t think the ANH dialogue necessarily indicates that they hadn’t seen each other since Mustafar, only that it had been a long time.

      As this article states there are some loose ends, most notable being that Obi-wan never shows any hint of feeling that Vader could be turned back..something that Vader himself tells Luke.

      There is also the issue of Obi-Wan and Owen both having more information about Vader than seems possible if Obi-wan had been on Tatooine all that time and hadn’t seen Anakin since Mustafar..

      How does Owen even know what happened to Anakin? His demeanor suggests he knows that Anakin turned evil. It’s not like he and Ben appear to have a friendship or even are on speaking terms.

      Calling Vader “more machine now than man” seems like an odd statement by Obi-wan having never seen him as a cyborg.

      • September 2, 2015 at 12:17 am
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        when we met last time I was just an apprentice. This line doesn’ t scream to you Mustafar? What, do you possibly think that Vader met Ben after Mustafar and was still the apprentice? 🙂 Come on….if any Obi-Wan movie, no Vader AT ALL or we have just one more continuity problem, as if we hadn’ t enough of those….

        • September 2, 2015 at 12:31 am
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          You didn’t even get the line correct chief..

          “When I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master”

          He is talking about abandoning Obi Wans training to become a Sith. He isn’t talking about Mustafar. Keep trying though. 🙂

          • September 2, 2015 at 4:52 pm
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            Either way, it could imply Mustafar, and this does not neet Obi-Wan reencountering Anakin/Vader to check what he has become. Gee, can´t Obi-Wan go online at Tatooine and check some “Empire/Vader news” aroud the galaxy?

      • September 2, 2015 at 12:52 am
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        “More machine now, than man. Twisted and evil”.

        See, Obi-Wan would know Anakin is now “twisted and evil”, since Anakin turned to the dark side before their battle on Mustafar. But how does Obi-Wan know Vader is Anakin? How does he even know Anakin is still alive, somewhere within Vader?

        There IS a story to be told, during those 20 odd years that Obi-Wan was supposedly exiled to Tatooine. It would be a crying shame, not to make a movie (or two) about it. A Boba Fett movie is not necessary, if he’s a part of either one or both of the other anthology films.

        • September 2, 2015 at 2:01 am
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          Obi Wan and Yoda saw Anakin being ‘annointed’ Vader by Sidious in the hologram recording, so they know his new identity. But you’re right, I don’t think they’ve seen him in the suit.

          • September 2, 2015 at 3:48 am
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            …nevermind…

        • September 2, 2015 at 4:53 pm
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          Holonet already

      • September 2, 2015 at 2:02 am
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        This was discussed on Dash Star’s Youtube video about the same subject of the possibility of an Obi-Wan film.

        Star Wars Rebels would have to have, possibly in Series 3 or 4, a situation where Ahsoka visits Obi Wan to give him intel on what has happened to Anakin/Vader.

      • September 2, 2015 at 7:48 am
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        Obi-Wan probably told Owen when he showed up with a baby. Otherwise, it’s some random baby.

        Obi-Wan: Here’s a baby for you.
        Owen: Wtf? Who are you? Whose baby is this?
        Obi-Wan: Gotta go. I’ll be up on that hill. See ya.

        • September 2, 2015 at 9:53 am
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          This made me literally LOL. XD

      • September 4, 2015 at 7:50 am
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        Except he had already given up in Revenge of the Sith on Anakin. You could see how he unsuccessfully tried to change his mind.

  • September 1, 2015 at 9:00 pm
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    “Obi-Wand”

    lol

    • September 1, 2015 at 9:03 pm
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      Whoops! Typo. Captain Typo

    • September 1, 2015 at 9:23 pm
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      Obi Wanken Obi

      • September 2, 2015 at 4:49 pm
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        My apologies for the typos. Due to some technical circumstances I wrote this on Google Docs and some of the words came out jumbled.

  • September 1, 2015 at 9:02 pm
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    I want a Kenobi in hiding western type movie so bad. Doing things behind the scenes to protect young Luke.

  • September 1, 2015 at 9:06 pm
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    I would love an Obi-Wan movie. I’m not sure he should meet Vader though. In ANH I got the impression it was the first time they met since battling on Mustafar. Tarkin believed Kenobi to be long dead, this wouldn’t be the case if there was another battle. Whatever the story, this film has to be made! Ewan McGregor deserves another shot at the character.

    • September 1, 2015 at 10:46 pm
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      I was thinking the same thing..BUT it seemed as if Obi wan thought he killed Anakin on Mustafar and in ANH he knew who Vader was and was not surprised to see him again..so maybe they can toy with the fact that he discovers Anakin never died..and they perhaps met once more? Considering the fact that Ewan would come back could pose that this meeting had happened not too long after ROTS.

      • September 1, 2015 at 10:50 pm
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        Oh! And to the tarkin reference..maybe if what I had said happens..it could force Obi wan to fake his death during a fight with Vader causing Tarkin to believe he was long gone.

        • September 1, 2015 at 11:31 pm
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          In the case of Tarkin,I don’t see any reason for him to encounter Obi Wan. He probably only remembers Kenobi as one of the many Jedi operating during the Clone Wars…He figures he would be old by then and likely dead, killed by an Inquisitor, or Jedi hunter. I wouldn’t think a faked death is needed.

          Besides if his death was faked wouldn’t Tarkin say..”I thought he died when that ship exploded?”. He says “he must be dead BY NOW” (emphasis mine)

          • September 2, 2015 at 12:14 am
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            Ahh crap he did say that lol..well then perhaps an Obi wan movie with Vader in the background..maybe Obi wan is working in the shadows and is the reason one of Vader’s plans crumble..this can have Obi wan realizing Anakin is still alive without them actually meeting again, and this can also bring an opportunity to have Ahsoka make her live action appearance helping Obi wan since Kenobi realizes it’s too risky having Vader know he is alive because it can put Luke in danger (If she doesn’t die in rebels)

          • September 2, 2015 at 12:37 am
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            Honestly I think this is the most likely scenario. I have argued that Ben and Vader could meet, but I find it more likely that they operate against one another without meeting face to face.

            I would like an element of Obi Wan trying to plead with Vader to abandon the Dark side in some way. Even in a message.

          • September 2, 2015 at 12:43 am
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            YES!!! That would be perfect!!! And having Kenobi plead for Anakin to abandon that life can be a very touching and iconic scene for the franchise..especially if Vader rejects his offer harshly showing that the man he once knew is too far gone.

  • September 1, 2015 at 9:11 pm
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    Just a question for all the experts here, are Sith lords always “fallen” Jedi? or are some Sith lords trained from an early age to be a sith lord? Is there a choise? or are all sith lords “seduced” by the darkside?

    • September 1, 2015 at 9:52 pm
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      We don’t have much to go on in the new canon as of yet as the only canonical Sith lords are Bane, Plagueis, Sidious, Maul, Tyrannus, and Vader. Of those characters, the only back stories we have that are official are those of Maul, Tyrannus (Dooku), and Vader. Vader and Tyrranus fell away, whereas Sidious trained Maul (born an inferior male of the matriarchal society of the Nightsisters) from a young age. So in canon, Maul is the only Sith Lord who we know who was raised to honor its teachings. Note that I didn’t count Ventress as a Sith Lord for the simple reason that she was not directly trained by a master and was used primarily as an assassin. Tyrannus and Sidious betrayed her and left her for dead and eventually she was redeemed. It is interesting to note that she was partially trained as a young girl by a Jedi who was marooned on her world, and after his death she went down a darker path.

      All that being said, we also have the Legend (non-canon) back stories of Bane, Plagueis, and Sidious (whose characters are canon although the works that detail their origin are not at this point). Bane was born in an abusive family situation and had a hard upbringing eventually adopting the ways of the Sith. Plagueis was practically raised by Sith Lord Darth Tenebrous and Sidious was a young adult from a wealthy family with daddy issues before he killed his family and joined Plagueis. Neither of these were Jedi before they became Sith. The only ones in canon who were Jedi before were Tyrannus and Vader.

      There are multiple stories in Legends however, especially of the Old Republic era that detail the lives of Sith Lords like Revan and Malak who were both Jedi-turned-Sith. In Revan’s case it was Jedi-turned-Sith-turned Jedi again. But in the old days there were also Sith Academies where Sith acolytes trained from a young age in the ways of the Sith just like the Jedi. There was also a Sith Empire that waged war against the Republic. So to answer your question, in both canon and non-canon stories, Sith are not necessarily “Fallen-Jedi”. Although this is often the case, it is not always.

      The more rare bird is the “redeemed Sith” which rarely took place in the non canon stories – and only once in canon with Vader. When Yoda said of the dark side “forever will it dominate your destiny” he meant every word.

      • September 1, 2015 at 10:27 pm
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        Wow, thanks for this detailed awnser!

        My head is filled with questions about the legend of “the force in balance”, And Vader as the chosen one, to bring balance. I was wondering if in order to balance the force. there must be as much darkside-user as light-side users. Like Jing-jang. Or no users at all.

        • September 1, 2015 at 11:45 pm
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          I don’t think it works like an equation with the numbers of people necessarily…I maintain the view that it’s not in numbers, but in actions that people take that determine the balance. The PT showed us that a couple of Sith Lords are capable of shifting the balance to the dark side. The Jedi outnumbered them greatly, but the dark side was already taking hold and beginning to overshadow the light even while the Jedi still lived. Yoda commented on this in the film about the dark side clouding everything. According to Lords of the Sith (novel), it was the presence of a sith shrine beneath the jedi temple itself that began to eat away at the jedi order over time. The sith did not outnumber the jedi, but their actions were having greater significance and shifted the force in their favor. Balance was restored when Vader shifted the balance in the opposite direction by killing Palpatine. It wasn’t balanced because Palpatine died and was no more but that with Vader’s actions, the balance began to shift again towards the light and holds in a more neutral position. The influence of the dark side had subsided, but as we will see in Aftermath, good has not yet prevailed. For now, the force is in balance and thus lays dormant. Come Dec. 18th, actions are taken that shift the balance of the force, causing the dichotomy of the force to awaken once again. That’s my take with some speculation thrown in..

      • September 1, 2015 at 11:01 pm
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        It can be inferred that Sidious was not a fallen Jedi and was trained solely as a Sith due to his relationship with the Jedi in the PT.

    • September 1, 2015 at 10:32 pm
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      Probably a better way to look at is that all force users begin their journey at the base of a mountain. in front of them are two paths side by side. One that is a stair case, and another that is a smooth slope. These paths coil around this mountain. At any time, they can choose to slide down the slope to a lower point on the other path. Obviously the stair case is the easier path, it is the dark side. While the slope is a more difficult climb. But the staircase doesn’t quite reach the summit, where the Jedi become an eternal being by becoming one with the force. Where the Jedi ultimately seek to add to the force for the benefit of all other living things that draw upon it. The Sith seek to subjugate the free will of all life that creates the force for their own personal benefit.

      Both paths are crowded. On the slope, the light side force users attempt to help each other for mutual benefit. While on the staircase, all users of the dark side seek to be the first to reach the end of the staircase so that they can be the most powerful being in existence for as long as they can. And they’ll compete with one another to the degree that they are willing to kill one another.

      • September 1, 2015 at 10:50 pm
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        OMG, that is an interesting way of looking at the dark and light-side. Thanks for the insight. Although I still have no clue how the “balance” of the force can be realized.

        • September 1, 2015 at 11:31 pm
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          The “Balance” of the force, has nothing to do with light/dark side. The force is balanced against living things. Life both feeds upon the force, and creates it. As the quantity of one grows, so does the other.

          A Jedi serves to help force grow by finding peaceful resolutions to what would otherwise become violent conflicts.

          While a Sith will draw heavily upon the energy of the force to carry out acts of genocide against their enemies.

          Dark side force users draw much more heavily on the force, than they give back to it. And the living things around them suffer in the process. Even their own bodies suffer, because they are the closest living thing to the point of wasteful consumption they create. This is seen in the films, when Yoda demonstrates the ability to absorb, and put the force energy from Dooku’s lightening back “in the bottle. He clearly understands that power, to a greater degree than Dooku. But a movie later we see that he cannot absorb the power that Sideous is able to unleash by the same technique. Yoda clearly understands how what they are doing is done, but refuses to use that power himself.

          The Jedi gradually lost their power as Sideous grew in strength. That was only able to happen because the Jedi order didn’t consider the lives of clones to have value as living beings to the force. The force is damaged a great deal by the willful destruction of sentient life. And the genocidal oppression of the Empire, is why all of the force users in the OT were comparably so weak compared to what was seen in the PT.

          The force was returned to balance, when the gross consumption of the force by Sideous and Vader was ended.

          • September 1, 2015 at 11:44 pm
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            Thank you for stating that better than I could have.

  • September 1, 2015 at 9:17 pm
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    Like Alec Guinness once said: “Mambo Jambo”

    • September 2, 2015 at 5:14 pm
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      Coco Jambo

  • September 1, 2015 at 9:18 pm
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    I am all for an Kenobi film, I think they should do it. But keep Vader out of it, he can keep popping up in Rebels, maybe Rogue One and other stuff too. But this (possible) part of Obi-Wan’s story does not need Vader.

  • September 1, 2015 at 9:19 pm
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    I swear I recall Obi-Wan mentioning he had a close encounter with Jabba in the recent Marvel Star Wars issue #7, something along the lines of “I’ve smelled Jabba up close and I can assure you that Jabba does not bathe” That reminded me of elements of the Kenobi novel (no longer canon)by John Jackson Miller in which Obi-wan got close to Jabba’s organization but as far as I remember never interacting with Jabba. That would make for an interesting story.

    • September 1, 2015 at 10:19 pm
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      “I’ve smelled Jabba up close and I can assure you that Jabba does not bathe” LOL can you imagine Alec Guinness saying that line? 😛

  • September 1, 2015 at 9:22 pm
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    If there’s such a high demand for an Obiwan film, maybe the prequels weren’t so bad.
    I think it’s likely Disney makes a whole trilogy about Obiwan if they do it at all. Milking the franchise to the last drop.
    They also could do a Vader movie with Obiwan showing up…

    • September 1, 2015 at 11:28 pm
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      McGregor/Obi-wan was one of the best things about the prequels. He nailed the part

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        Totally agreed. And I also loved Christopher on Dooku, that irony tone on his voice was damn hilarious: “Oh no, my friend. This is a mistake, a terrible mistake. They have gone too far, this is madness!”, best line ever!

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    I know the comment above about heroin was just a joke but the idea of seeing Obiwan hitting it hard and falling from grace would be good. THe isolation getting to him and having him hook-up etc and drop his boyscout values only to have a significant event shake him and bring him back. It would be a worthy journey. Self-doubt, depression, redemption. Maybe face a few inquisitors along the way.

  • September 1, 2015 at 9:26 pm
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    I think a vader trilogy between revenge and new hope would be awesome. Lets see the badass vader was promoted as being in the movies.

  • September 1, 2015 at 9:27 pm
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    No mention of Maul? He’s one of the biggest loose ends in the galaxy right now, and he has serious history with Obi Wan.

    Squaring off against Vader really doesn’t make much sense; the whole idea of the line “A presence I have not felt since…” was that Vader was feeling Obi Wan for the first time since their duel on Mustafar. Muddying these waters would only harm the OT, not enhance it.

    Bringing back Maul, possibly with a renewed Shadow Collective, would make far more sense than including Vader.

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      Right, forgot about that…

    • September 1, 2015 at 11:52 pm
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      A presence he had not felt in a long time…that doesn’t need to be Mustafar.

    • September 2, 2015 at 2:09 am
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      Much as I think Maul is great he should of been left dead in TPM, or resurrected as Grievous who was introduced terribly IMO. Movies shouldn’t need filler to help introduce a character

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        But we are talking about content, not movies.

  • September 1, 2015 at 9:29 pm
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    I did skim the latter part of the story (it got long) but a great concept for the kenobi anthology film could involve time spent on degobah with yoda. In Empire – he tells luke to go to degobah and train with the jedi master that trained him (obi-wan). Since Qui-gon trained Obi-wan, it would only make sense that yoda trained him between the two movies to complete his training…this would open up explanations for degobah and the “cave” as well as why vader couldn’t find (yoda) and/or chose not to find (obi-wan) even though he was living on vader’s home planet…lots of room to work with!

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      Good idea…except that seeing a couple of exiled Jedi discussing spirituality and philosophy on a damp, dark swamp planet for 2 hours or so would be kinda boring, IMO.

  • September 1, 2015 at 9:32 pm
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    This is all well and good, and would make for good cinema I’m sure, but it ignores the fact that the lines in ANH specifically imply that the two haven’t met since their dynamic was one of Obi-Wan being the master and Anakin being the learner, which at least it still was (as the dialogue in ROTS implied) if only in sentiment, in Episode III.

  • September 1, 2015 at 9:42 pm
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    Like the sound of Boba Fett appearing in both Rogue One and the Han Solo movie; don’t believe his character could pull off his own dedicated movie.

    An Obi-Wan standalone movie works for me, as long as Darth Vader and Yoda do not appear in it.

    Would be interesting to see Obi-Wan crash land on a new planet and get embroiled in some kind of struggle against the Empire or some Empire type sympathisers.

  • September 1, 2015 at 9:51 pm
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    It must be said, so I’ll do the dirty.

    ANY Star Wars film centered on Obi-Wan Kenobi must also feature the former Mandalore & Sith Lord in exhile, Darth Maul. Forget shagging lady Imps with an agenda, baby-Kenobi’s and/or talking to Vader via force-walkie-talkie….

    The Zabrak’s death belongs to Qui Gon’s former pupil and no other. Ignoring Maul’s survival would only serve to undercut all the work done in the Clone Wars cartoon and leaving that homicidal madman to wreak havoc upon the Outer Rim doesn’t make me feel like Luke is free to chase womprats whenever he feels like it.

    Old Wounds was never canon, but it sure hit the pit-droid on the nose, its only a matter a time before Maul finds young Skywalker…

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      I hear what you’re staying but they’ve already opted to negate all the work done by Timothy Zahn and all the follow-up books…who’s to say they wouldn’t ingnore the work done for clone wars (or are the producers of clone wars more closely tied to the current production?)

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        Negating the Clone Wars would not be in their best interest.

        First of all , Darth Maul might be the most liked and recognized PT character. Resurrecting him in TCW was a gift to Disney, I bet they can’t wait to get him on screen. Why would they want to nullify that?

        I bet Ahsoka will turn up as well. Kids like her.

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      Finally, someone mentioned Darth Maul. I think Darth Maul should somehow escape the clutches of Darth Sidious and immediately seek out Obi-Wan. From a different point of view, now that Sidious killed his brother, he could possibly want to ally with Kenobi to kill Sidious, only to stab him in the back at the end. Literally.

  • September 1, 2015 at 9:51 pm
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    Could we instead perhaps explore a different era in the star wars time line ? maybe go even further back in history.

    To be fair obi-wan has had lots of time on screen, the prequel trilogy then many appearances in the main trilogy. His character has had its fair share of story time already. To give more time to this character seems unfair when there`s other loose ends and mystery’s to explore in the star wars universe. It could create a whole new class of fans interested in the old republic era or even further back.

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      Kenobi is one of the central characters and has a huge void in his character arc. Also they have a great actor to portray him. Why not go for it?

      I’m sure we will see the kinds of stories you want eventually.

  • September 1, 2015 at 9:52 pm
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    I found the first two stories nice enough. The last movie to be released in 2020 must make the HIT of cinema. An untold story with no knowledge of its end would make sense for Disney-Lucasfilm. I would love to see a Kenobi movie but I dont believe they would make a movie were there would be no “action” about the main character’s fate.

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      OT aside, Kenobi’s fate isn’t secure as long as Darth Maul is still running around.

  • September 1, 2015 at 10:05 pm
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    The first paragraph’s link to “Marvel’s Star Wars #7” needs editing, change the ending “.” to an “l”. You’re welcome. 🙂

  • September 1, 2015 at 10:06 pm
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    I would absolutely love a Kenobi film. I’m more excited about that possibility than either of the two that are currently in the works. I see your point with Vader’s comment about Obi-Wan once thinking as Luke does. The Prequels didn’t really flesh out that thinking by Obi-Wan very well. However, as much as I would love to tidy up some inconsistencies between the PT and OT (like for instance show Obi-Wan receiving a head injury which would explain his inability to recognize R2 after 20 years), I think it’s most likely they will not have Obi-Wan encounter Vader in an anthology film. On the other hand, (in agreement with Luuke22 and Hego Damask etc.), a Maul/Kenobi grudge match makes more sense as we currently have no closure on Maul’s character (unless you have never seen Clone Wars and are oblivious to his return) and it would allow us a good villain that doesn’t jeopardize Kenobi’s exile as Maul no longer has any affiliation with the Sith and certainly no love for the empire. For the record, I hope the Kenobi offspring is a rumor that will fall away in time. As with Rebels, lets keep Kenobi’s involvement with the Rebels and the Empire at Large at zero and instead focus on his own personal struggles and further training. As for the film’s antagonist – bring on Maul and the Shadow Collective. 🙂

    • September 1, 2015 at 11:32 pm
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      Maul; with more than a few Mando’s that remain loyal to his twisted cause, would certainly present a difficult situation for dear “Old Ben” to overcome.

      I’d like to see Kenobi take them all out… Legendary-Style. Ray Park is all in on the idea…. but there is one thing I’m undecided about, should it be Sam’s voice, or Pete’s?

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      This was discussed on Dash Star’s Youtube video about the same subject of the possibility of an Obi-Wan film.

      Star Wars Rebels would have to have, possibly in Series 3 or 4, a situation where Ahsoka visits Obi Wan to give him intel on what has happened to Anakin/Vader.

  • September 1, 2015 at 10:07 pm
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    If it is films (notice the plural there?) lets say 3 just for the fun of speculation. The 1st film could have Obi-Wan vs Maul showdown and finally end that story line. 2nd could include a Darth Vader fight. The film could show Obi-Wan Kenobi completing his training and include a Darth Vader fight or some other villain maybe an Inquister of what not I haven’t really thought through the villain on the 3rd one. Heck maybe instead of 3 films it is just 2 films and mash 2 & 3 together.

  • September 1, 2015 at 10:10 pm
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    NO KENOBI OFFSPRING!

  • September 1, 2015 at 10:13 pm
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    Of all the Anthology ideas off there…this is the one I want to see the most – a Boba Fett movie sounds good on paper, but character like him is best when he’s surrounded with mystery. That not the type of character you can base feature on. Obi-Wan however is a no brainer. So many routes you can take. There’s obviously the Darth Maul angle from Clone Wars – you can get Vader and Palps in the film as well. Boba Fett and Jabba seem like a no brainer as well. I personally would love to see Ewan get another crack at the character. From all his dialog challenged writing…Lucas’s words never sounded that bad with an actor like Ewan speaking them.

  • September 1, 2015 at 10:14 pm
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    If this happens and an Obi wan film does appear, then the bad guy of the piece should be dath maul, it would give closure to his story ark that was never finished in the clone wars, plus im sure im not the only fan who would love to see a live action version of a rematch between him and kenobi ala the old wounds story that was part of the visionaries book back in 2005.

  • September 1, 2015 at 10:16 pm
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    Crosses fingers an Obi-Wan movie gets made!!

  • September 1, 2015 at 10:16 pm
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    Instead of a Han Solo movie, they should make a movie on the first Force users, the discoverers of the Force if you will.

    Show the division that caused the Sith and Jedi to exist. That would be fantastic.

    Would even be cool at the end, shortly after the Jedi fail to destroy the Sith, a wise Jedi writing out the prophecy that is given to him by the Force.

    • September 2, 2015 at 2:31 am
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      Good idea but 1 film will not be enough. there is room here for at least a new “old Republic era” trilogy IMO

  • September 1, 2015 at 10:23 pm
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    This film should be a full on head trip into the force “a mystical energy field” and that having bugs in your blood has little to with it. That would give more credence to his description of it to Luke. You could have that central conflict not be physical but metaphysical battling the shadows and glimpsing the netherworld of the force and he sees a hint to his own death, but not outright. Qui Gon could train him in understanding the deeper meaning of the force rather than what Yoda had up to this point in time and his conventional belief of it.
    Understandably you might want a physical foe but that would dampen the impact of ANH.

    • September 1, 2015 at 11:15 pm
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      Maybe we see a kenobi in the sequal trilogy? Mayby Rey is the child of obi-wan’s daughter?

    • September 2, 2015 at 2:38 am
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      Please stop with disregarding the theory of midichlorians. Hell, in our society we have science and religion coliving as well. You can explain and analyse NDE experiences with medical science or with your faith. Who even cares ? it’s all on you. Everything is “quantifiable”. Yesterday, humanity believed earth was a plane and the center of universe. Now, we are close to quantify the gravity energy from black holes and such. Open your minds…

  • September 1, 2015 at 10:32 pm
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    You talk about Boba Fett fans being sated? Kenobi has been in six movies looking cool and kicking butt. All Fett fans get is a little action in Empire Strikes back and ridiculous burp in ROTJ. Everything else is a little wannabe bounty hunter boy. Sated?! Nobody wanted to see Baby Fett. It’s really simple actually. All Fett fans really want to see is him escaping the sarlacc. That’s all really. Then have him appear as the man of mystery who pops into the occasional story does a job looks cool doing it and then exists the stage leaving you to wonder when he will pop up again.

    As for Obi-Wan, I don’t recall in all my growing up years and young adult years of being a SW fan, not one conversation ever revolved around, “I wonder what Obi-Wan did while Luke grew up.” That’s because it was clear he did nothing but wait for the right time to train Luke, meditate, roam around, and watch Luke grow up. And it’s better that way too. It makes the adventures he does have more special. If all these characters are busy with grand adventures between movies then the adventures they have on screen don’t mean as much. There should be a sense that there are great down times in these character’s lives. Like that is the norm, not the adventure. That’s why the adventure is worth the story.

    But hey, if you want to know what happened with Kenobi, read the Star Wars comic. They are covering it there in Obi-Wan’s journal entry breaks and that is where it should be because it’s not worth a movie. But then again neither is Han Solo’s back story and they are doing that. So congratulations, you mysterious group of fandom that appeared from nowhere unsatisfied with the miles of film footage Obi-Wan is already burned into, you will probably be getting everything that you want because it’s cheap and easy. All you need is McGregor and a desert.

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      Your post is just full of cynism and frustation, mate. We all will get what they serve to uq. Point.

  • September 1, 2015 at 10:32 pm
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    Another plus is that you can basically make it a Darth Maul movie as well…really expand the character – open the movie with a flash back of his resurrection and the Murder of Satine. Then cut to Obi-Wan crushed by guilt and basically the village drunk of Mos Eisley…until an encounter with Force Ghost Qui-Gon. There’s some kind of entanglement with Jabba…all the while cross cutting with Maul basically terrorizing the outer rim – possibly brings him back to Mandalore. Maybe…just maybe -there’s a daughter Satine never told him about (possibly a certain member of the Ghost Crew). It could make taking out Maul less of an act of pure revenge. Just letting my mind run wild with this.

    • September 1, 2015 at 11:35 pm
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      Maul vs Kenobi

      No corn flakes in that story.

  • September 1, 2015 at 10:35 pm
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    well it would be awesome a movie of obi wan but then we all know that he watched over luke in the gap between the 2 trilogies, they cant include vader on this or they screw up their final battle on the death star.
    in episode 4 looks like obi wan has done nothing between those years

  • September 1, 2015 at 10:44 pm
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    Never understood the fuzz about Boba Fett.
    He basically looked cool, from a standpoint of an eight year old that is, and then he got eaten by a giant asshole. A change in the special edition I found most unneeded was to make the sarlac look less like an asshole.
    Hopefully TFA won’t be all softened for kids and faithful grandmas.

    • September 1, 2015 at 11:38 pm
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      I see you are still an idiot.

  • September 1, 2015 at 10:55 pm
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    I would love to see Ewan given a quality Star Wars movie that he deserves. Wish they would scrap the “Young Han Solo” and do the Obi-Wan movie in place of it.

  • September 1, 2015 at 11:28 pm
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    I think Disney should make a bold choice and just make new episodes 1-3. Use Ewan sure, but make a new “How Anakin become Darth Vader” series. One that doesn’t suck.

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      With Kennedy at the helm that will never happen. She would never slap Lucas in the face like that. In fact I doubt any involved are looking to disrespect Lucas as so many fans do.

      Besides they have a whole universe to play in, they don’t need to do that. It would only muddy the waters and fuck with the canon.

    • September 1, 2015 at 11:40 pm
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      Kennedy doesn’t matter….

      IIRC, it was written into the sale agreement that the six films and TV show shall remain untouched, infinitum. Personally, I would love to see them tell a better version of that story. Would take BIG stones to do that, contract or no contract.

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        The head of Lucasfilm doesn’t matter?

        I thought it was in the sale agreement but I wasn’t sure.

        Anyway, I really doubt they want to go near the Prequels.

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          The six films & TCW are untouchable.

          So no, she doesn’t matter at all.

    • September 2, 2015 at 2:49 am
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      Sorry, but you seem to be the tipycally easy-butthurted guy. I am 33 years old and i am not ashamed to say i like the Prequels how they are. Yes it could be better… maybe in a parallel dimension LOL. People are really blind to The PT qualities because of the obvious fails.

  • September 1, 2015 at 11:31 pm
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    “This piece of chicken from Penny Markt in germany is a must-have for every Star Wars fan and a truly unique addition to any Star Wars collection!”

    http://www.ebay.de/itm/-/221870344405

  • September 1, 2015 at 11:42 pm
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    Kenobi should be the reason there are no Inquisitors left for A New Hope.
    As the Empire hunts down the last scattered Jedi,someone mysterious is hunting the hunters around the outer rim…old Kenobi

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      I like this idea very much.

    • September 2, 2015 at 10:54 am
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      Now that is a good plot concept!

  • September 1, 2015 at 11:50 pm
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    Bluestreaking is an excellent speculator. His theories on the Knights of Ren and the Third Order seem spot on. In fact he should have written this article.

  • September 1, 2015 at 11:54 pm
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    How about a Kenobi TV series? 3 episodes per season, Sherlock style, 60 minutes per episode. 2 or 3 seasons should do it.

  • September 1, 2015 at 11:58 pm
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    What about in “A New Hope” when Obi-Wan tells Luke that the cantina can be “a little rough.” Sounds like Obi-Wan has spent some time there before…

    • September 2, 2015 at 1:08 am
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      When you’re waiting twenty years for a whiny kid to grow up to proceed with the next phase of your plan, a guy just needs to get out of the house occasionally and get a drink.

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    That kind of story would be difficult to do. Too many contradictions. Like” when we last met I was but the learner now I am the master” or Tarkin telling Vader that kenobi must be dead..Obi wan might know or sense that vader is still alive but vader couldn’t know about obi wan…still I would love to see ewan reprise his role and make it a western type story on tattooine where he has to come out of retirement to save a village of stop bounty hunters

  • September 2, 2015 at 12:21 am
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    i always thought obi wan was never surprised to see Vader on the death star cause the name darth vader was heard all over the galaxy ( even tatooine) as thé guy not the screw with
    i like the vader plot but how can they justify the ” when i left u i was but the learner” dialogue ???

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      That line doesn’t even make sense now. Anakin wasnt Obi Wans apprentice anymore when he turned.

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        Even as a kid before the PT, I took that line to mean, “When we last met, I still had a lot to learn but now I know more then you do.” Not really taken to mean I was still your apprentice.

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        Good point, but Anakin remains the learner because his arrogance that made him loose the fight he could had won.

  • September 2, 2015 at 12:27 am
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    A Vader/Obi-Wan encounter between RotS and ANH would be too problematic, as noticed by many here.

    I think a cool idea would be having Bail Organa ask Obi-Wan to help lead a team of Rebels similar to the Rogue One crew on some daring mission (maybe even the Felicity Jones’ team itself), given Obi-Wan’s ample experience in sensitive espionage missions for the Jedi Order (Kamino, Utapau).

    This would also help to establish a closer relationship between the two characters, helping to explain better why Bail told Leia to send the Death Star plans straight to Obi-Wan in ANH. Heck, it could even be Obi-Wan himself who finds out about the Death Star during this top-secret mission. He could warn the Rebels, setting up the stage for Rogue One nicely.

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      a good point cause when u see a new hope , when Obi Wan says “thats no moon” its like he seen the thing before, not in real but maybe as plans or shematics his surprise in the falcon feels like : ” i cant believe they actually built the thing” as if he was aware of the construction but refused to believe it was true until he sees it with his own eyes.

  • September 2, 2015 at 12:59 am
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    I think one movie would be good enough.
    Obi wan leaves tatooine for a brief period to meet with Yoda. But then he is hunted down by bounty hunters or inquisitors or Darth Maul. He needs to take them out before they report him to the Emperor.
    He arrives at Degobah and trains to be one with the force. Which is crucial considering there are no more jedi and it gives them assurance to make sure luke learns the ways of the force even if they were to die and return as spirit.
    The film should end with him returning safely to Tatooine or having to kill off a final threat that followed him there.

    Who knows?

  • September 2, 2015 at 1:31 am
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    Let’s move the story forward, not backfill. The problem with these anthology films is that you already know the outcome in the grand scheme of the universe. Tell me a story that I don’t already know the ending to.

  • September 2, 2015 at 1:40 am
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    Hmmm… after reading some comments about Maul’ involvement…

    What about a film where Maul is the villain? But he is trying to kill Jabba, he wants to be the new Crime Lord and Jabba needs help, so he calls the crazy guy who walks in the desert… Ben!
    It may sound silly but this is a job for the Lucasfilm writers hehehehe

    And… a Kenobi’s movie like Mad Max would be frickin’ amazing!

  • September 2, 2015 at 1:45 am
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    I’m surprised nobody has mentioned how Owen Lars could have a part to play in any Obi Wan film. I’m ancient, I remember the time before the prequels when there was a lot of speculation about the Lars – Kenobi relationship and whether they teamed up for adventures. I could go for Joel Edgerton and Ewan McGregor starring in a movie with a plot relating to Jabba’s crew, maybe even featuring Fett (who would be a young adult if they went a decade past the end of the prequels). Hell, Chewie is even possible, he appears to be Kenobi’s contact prior to the meeting with Han.

  • September 2, 2015 at 2:18 am
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    Obi-wan tried to save Anakin when he first got to Mustafar, prior to their duel.

    The third film was confirmed as Boba Fett with Josh Trank helming. But losing Trank pushed that film back and they bumped up the Han Solo one. I’m sure there are more in the pipeline, but they probably want to see how TFA and RO do first. Especially RO.

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      I don’t think Boba Fett was ever confirmed. Just a very prominent rumor, with a lot of wishful thinking behind it.

  • September 2, 2015 at 2:21 am
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    When JJ took over on TFA I think the Obi-wan descendant thing went out the window. And SHE could have explained her past, they wouldn’t have need – nor should have relied on – another movie to clear that up. Not that another movie couldn’t have also told that story.
    Also, Tatooine clearly became Jakku when JJ got involved. Too bad because it’s really obvious.

  • September 2, 2015 at 3:43 am
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    I don’t know if anyone else has posted this for this thread yet but, I would personally be okay if Disney just pretended like 1, 2 and 3, never ever happened and had the first three episodes revolve around, wait for it . . . Obi Wan instead of Anakin. Anakin would of course be in it but the audience would see Anakin turn to the dark side threw the eyes of Obi Wan.

  • September 2, 2015 at 4:00 am
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    I’m not even sure if they can pull off the Solo spinoff let alone a Kenobi one. Even though it’s no longer canon anymore, It would be hard to top John Jackson Miller’s novel especially with the sketchy direction that TFA is heading in now.

  • September 2, 2015 at 5:24 am
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    All of the smaller roles from RotS could easily return. All the actors will be like 15 years older than they were in RotS, the perfect age for a film taking place 5 years before ANH. I would love to see Jimmy Smits return as Organa for a role in Rogue One

  • September 2, 2015 at 6:09 am
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    No to the Darth Vader vs Obi Wan duel, “the last time we met… now, I am the master”. The only way it can happen is if Obi-Wan PWNS Vader, and Vader makes up ground in the interim b/w anthology and ep IV. BAM

  • September 2, 2015 at 6:35 am
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    this article was great and that second last picture cracks me up. boys stop fighting for a second and look this way. hold it, and…great shot.

  • September 2, 2015 at 6:43 am
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    First time poster, here. I have a question for the group since we’re on the topic of continuity across the PT and OT: how come the Empire doesn’t continue using clones after Revenge of the Sith? They seemed to be effective (they killed a bunch of Jedi), loyal, and there’s a never-ending supply of them. Why shut down that program? Instead, by ANH they have an army of sub-intelligence storm troopers.

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      100% agreed! I saw that statue at SWCA and was blown away by it. If I had known about it when it was first released, I would’ve gladly dropped the $300-$400 or so for it. Now you can only find it on eBay and the like for over $1,000. I wish I could afford that! It’s probably my favorite collectible statue ever. And you’re right, the image and vibe it gives for a Dark Times Obi-wan is absolutely perfect. I would love if the screenwriter of this film (if it actually happens) had this statue on his desk for inspiration.

  • September 2, 2015 at 9:17 am
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    My Obi-Wan film would be mostly non-verbal. Ben never leaves Tatooine for 20 years, as Luke is too important for anything else to happen. Lots of meditation, becoming one with the Force, long panning shots of Tunisian landscape, quasi-Zen Bhuddist overtones, inner dialogue. Interlude with Vader’s inner thoughts in his meditation chamber. Ben drinking at Mos Eisley cantina, struggling with boredom, struggling with his sanity. Fending off Sand People. Interlude from Sand People’s perspective. Ben approvingly watches Luke nailing wamp rats in his T-16 from afar. Time slowly aging him to an old man. Some conflict with Owen Lars, some event to make Owen dislike Ben and falsely believe he is dead. Suns, dust, sand, stone, time, eternity, self sacrifice, guardianship.

  • September 2, 2015 at 10:09 am
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    An Obi-wan Anthology film is honestly the Anthology film I rather see before pretty much any other! Obi-wan is my favorite character, as well as MANY, MANY other Star Wars fans’ favorite, and the idea of a western-style Dark Times Obi-wan movie gets me almost as excited as the ST! We NEED to see a final showdown between him and Darth Maul. Vader should have nothing to do with the story at all. There should be a few scenes of Obi-wan watching over a young Luke from afar, and then something forces him to leave Tatooine to pursue Maul, leading to their final confrontation. They could even explain Obi-wan’s seemingly advanced aging and weakness in ANH (compared to his PT age and strength) by having it be the effects of an epic final battle with Maul. Then a somewhat broken, but victorious Obi-wan returns to Tatooine to live out his days meditating, protecting Luke, and waiting for the Force to have further use of him.

  • September 2, 2015 at 11:27 am
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    If they met again between ANH and a Obi Wan movie “When I left you I was but the learner. Now I am the master.” makes not much sense anymore. You’d be able to twist it and try to explain it but it would only take the gravity out of Darth Vaders words.

  • September 2, 2015 at 1:34 pm
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    A obi-wan film pre ANH would be awesome, no way would he be sitting with his thumb up his arse for twenty years doing nothing bar looking after luke. The clonewars he was a true jedi but after leaving Anakin for dead maybe he became more rebellious and had many missions involving Bail Organa and the rebels. Having obi wan finally killing Maul and some inquisitors and seeing some jedi like Kanan and Ezra die could explain why no-one else in the galaxy belives in the force anymore

  • September 2, 2015 at 4:17 pm
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    I really like your theory for a possible encounter between Vader and Kenobi after Mustafar and that kind of confrontation would be crucial on a Kenobi trilogy and I would really enjoy seeing it, but remember the famous lines they exchanged on Ep. IV:
    Darth Vader: “I’ve been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the learner; now I am the master.”
    Ben Obi-Wan Kenobi: “Only a master of evil, Darth.”
    It clearly suggests they never met after the duel on Mustafar.

  • September 2, 2015 at 8:14 pm
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    Still , Ewan OB movie will be far better idea than Solo reboot. At least , we have an authentic actor. As this article put it, he is one of the most complex and layered character, Ewan can portray brilliantly.

  • September 2, 2015 at 9:55 pm
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    Obi Yawn Kenobi. Sorry, I love Star Wars but I don’t think he’s a very interesting character compared to most others. I’d rather see a Yoda movie set hundred of years in the past.

  • September 3, 2015 at 2:19 am
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    An Obi Wan movie could play like this…

    The Skywalker twins were hidden before the fate of Anakin was known.
    Kenobi left him for dead.

    So what happened afterwards that meant Obi Wan had to move to Tattoine to keep an eye on Luke himself?
    Yet Leia is fine on a rather more high profile planet with senators that Anakin and the Emperor knew personally?

    Vader knows he has son in ESB but not a daughter.
    Even when he meets her face to face in ANH he doesn’t have a clue.
    How does he find out that Padme lived long enough to give him a son?

    Obi Wan knows about Vader in ANH.
    He knows he’s more machine than man.
    How does he know?
    He’s not surprised at his appearance one bit. Has he seen him?

    Obi Wan is wracked with guilt at how he failed Anakin and saw the Jedi almost extinct. He blames himself.
    What if there was a way he could redeem himself?

    And we know Obi Wan completed his teachings to become a ghost.

    I think there is a story where Obi Wan confronts Vader.
    Imagine his face when he sees him as Vadar for the first time!
    There can be a big reveal to Obi Wan that Vadar IS Anakin. Shocker.
    But where Obi Wan senses the good in Vadar and tries to convince him to complete his destiny and restore balance to the force.
    Where Obi Wan can redeem himself by bringing Vadar back.
    Vadar hasn’t sensed this presence in ANH for a long time – since THIS encounter.

    It could happen relatively soon after ROTS.

    Qui Gon comes to him as a ghost.
    Anakin lives!
    He may still bring balance to the force and Obi Wan can rectify his F up.
    Qui Gon has come back especially to tell Obi Wan.
    Obi Wan must infiltrate the newly formed Empire and find Anakin.
    He does this by finding a younger more energetic Jedi to help him. A new padawan.

    Obi Wan hates flying but has to come out of hiding.
    All very dangerous as the last Jedi are being hunted by inquisitors.
    An Inquisitor is the ‘Maul’ of this movie. Maybe it is Maul?
    Obi Wan must find Anakin as he believes him to still be before the Inquisitor finds him.

    The film explores the conflict and guilt Obi Wan feels.

    There is an epic battle at the end – this time Vadar in his armour.
    And Obi Wan could almost overpower Anakin again. Vadar is not suddenly invincible – in fact, his new suit has him at a disadvantage.

    Here Obi Wan reveals to Vadar that Padme lived long enough to give him a son.
    Imagine his face?!
    Well, we don’t need to as there could even be a helmet removal to reveal a younger burnt Vadar – even Christensen for continuity.
    But it’s too soon. Vadar is furious with Obi Wan. AND he knows where his son is…
    So Vadar does something that makes Obi Wan think he has gone to the dark side for good and kills his young Jedi companion.
    Setting him up as the big bad for ANH.

    Oopsie! Obi Wan does it again. He has a habit of messing up!
    Now Vadar knows the Emperor lied to him (more reason to throw him down the shaft) and Obi Wan had better get to Tattoine and keep an eye on Luke quick sharp!

    The tone is ESB.

    Now Obi Wan wants to finish the work he started before. Finish Vadar once and for all. But something happens before he can.
    So off he goes – knowing he has potentially put Luke’s life at risk.
    And the film ends with Vadar and the emperor having a son of Skywalker conversation. Putting the Emperor on the back foot a bit – he lies his way out of it.
    But Vadar doesn’t reveal that Obi Wan is alive.
    So there is a glimmer of good in him still.

    And Obi Wan goes to Dagobah to tell Yoda of his foul up. (It’s a puppet Yoda again now that Disney has The Muppets!)
    But Yoda has had a vision.
    Obi Wan will finally get to redeem himself – in ANH.

    Cameos from Mace Windu (he also lives – surprise)
    The Emperor (keep him to creepy hologram)
    Yoda (puppet please)
    Qui Gon (ghost)
    A new padawan
    Inquisitor (Maul?)

    It could be a new story that gives us more Obi Wan, his guilt and shame, a chance at redemption – inquisitors and Jedi’s in hiding – and also some fun ‘prequel’ infill to ANH.

  • September 3, 2015 at 8:13 am
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    I love me some Darth Maul, but I feel like too many casual fans would be confused if he showed up as a villain in a new movie. Yes, TCW is canon, but not everyone knows that arc.

    If we do get an Obi movie or series of movies, I think it would be important to flesh out Owen and Beru and their relationship with Kenobi.

    I also think a Vader confrontation could work but probably not a lightsaber duel. Obi should know he can’t beat Darth or refuse to fight him for one reason or another. Kenobi could try to turn Vader and maybe even reveal Luke’s existence (or hint at it) The more conflict we see in Vader before RotJ the better IMO

  • September 3, 2015 at 6:57 pm
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    Hey Kyle, mind humoring me with some off the wall fake rumors for Episode VIII. Adam Driver resurrects Harrison Ford comes back from the dead as a tool of evil. Okay go.

  • September 4, 2015 at 7:44 am
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    I think it would be cool to show Obi-Wan go on some sort of mission that takes up a small part of the movie after he successfully accomplished it. Then he goes back to Tatooine to watch over Luke but senses that his mission was unsuccessful. Whoever was involved in the mission finds Obi-Wan’s whereabouts and he has to do whatever he can to defeat this enemy was still protecting Luke at the same time. In the book: The Life and Legend of Obi-Wan Kenobi he actually has a duel with a Tusken Raider Sith which was pretty cool.

  • September 30, 2015 at 5:37 pm
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    Great idea! I like the idea of Obi Wan done as a Spaghetti western. In the desert, bounty hunters, assasins trying to kill him. I like the idea of some altercation with Vader…. so many ways to go.

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