UPDATE! The Ultimate Guide to the New Star Wars Canon

star warsDepending on how one looks at Disney hitting the RESTART button on the Star Wars Expanded Universe, or canon, it could be either a very refreshing thing or infuriating. If you have invested many dollars and hours pouring over previous Expanded Universe novels, games, and comics this could be discouraging that some of your favorite tales have been pushed aside and given the LEGENDS moniker; a title that means the stories are indefinitely “on-hold” in the new canon Disney is gearing up, or they are most likely to stay that way forever (Sorry, Jedi Academy fans). If you are like some Star Wars fans that did not go all-in on the Star Wars Expanded Universe, pre-Disney, you might find this new beginning of content to compliment the films you already know and love easier to embrace than its predecessor that has been churning since A New Hope…

 

 

Whatever side of this you land on I say to you: It’s done, just accept it.

 

Now that’s out of the way, let’s look at the chronology what we know so far.  This new canon makes it easier for the casual fans to do a bit of soul searching in the Star Wars Universe while crossing the days off of their calendar until this December. Instead of watching The Force Awakens teasers for the millionth time (not saying there is anything wrong with that), maybe we can take a second to step back and look at each story in what is now the chronology of Star Wars. There is so much to dig into before the Sequel Trilogy begins, not to mention Rogue One and the two TBA Anthology films. Let’s begin where the man himself, George Lucas, sees it beginning.

 

The Prequel Trilogy

 

the phantom menace

The Phantom Menace introduces us to a number of characters that not only span into the Clone Wars, but will show up in the Sequel Trilogy. Due to chance, or “the will of the Force”, a Jedi – master and his apprentice find themselves stranded on a remote planet and encounter a boy touched by the Force stronger than any other being they’ve encountered. That boy begins his journey toward learning more about his powers by the end of the film, and we have a brief insight into the childhood of the man who would eventually become Darth Vader. The Phantom Menace is the beginning of everything we know, so far. We learn from the film that the Republic and the Jedi have been around a very long time, the Sith have been extinct for a millennia, and there is a rule of the Sith that there can only be a master and an apprentice. The Sith “master and apprentice” rule is an ongoing plot point in the next two prequel films, as the apprentice we meet in this film is dispatched with by the end of it.

 

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Set 10 years after The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones shows us a very conflicted Anakin Skywalker, on the eve of becoming a Jedi Knight, embrace his passionate feelings of love and hatred. He learns to love from the friend he made years ago as a child and learns to hate by his mother dying in his arms. In both cases, he violates strict Jedi Codes he has lived under since he began his apprenticeship, and this film is indeed the beginning of the end for a very troubled young man. We witness that the friendship between Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi was much more turbulent than warm. We see the Sith’s continued assault against the Jedi as the new Sith apprentice has set-in motion the events that cause a deep division in the galaxy, and put the Jedi Order at the frontlines of the Clone War.

 

An Interlude

 

The Clone Wars

The Clone Wars (animated series and film)

 

If you are entering the Clone Wars series for the first time, start with the feature film, then move onto the series itself. Picking up right after the events of Attack of the Clones, this series took on the difficult job of covering one of the most important periods of the Star Wars Universe.

 

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In six-seasons, as well as a comic series based on Darth Maul: The Son of Dathomir, the Clone Wars told a fantastic tale, introducing new characters fans came to love and taking us to worlds we thought we might never see. This series only got better as it went on, and by the end of it, fans had an investment in the vivid depiction of the cost the Clone Wars had on the Star Wars Universe. It should not be overlooked by any fan.

 

dark-disciple

While six seasons, a comic-series, and the Dark Disciple novel coming out this summer may seem daunting; the length of the episodes make it “binge – watch” friendly. If you have been holding off on this piece of the Star Wars Universe you are missing out big time. Get started.

 

The End of the Prequels and The Clone Wars

 

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Revenge of the Sith ends not only the Clone Wars, but the prequel trilogy itself. It picks up three-years after the Clone Wars have begun. By the end of this film, the child introduced to us as a savior and embodiment of the Force, is rotted from the inside out by ultimately betraying his teachers and friends, and in turn, allying himself with the Sith out of a desire to change a tragic, presumed destiny shown to him in a vision. The Republic, as old as the Jedi Order itself, is down the dark road toward being revised as an Empire. The Sith have been behind almost every critical detriment to our heroes in this trilogy, and the dominos the dark lords have lined up are knocked down with precision. We see a Jedi Order almost completely destroyed, it’s two most powerful members set into self-imposed exile to await a better time to fight back, and the birth of two Skywalker twins that may one day answer the call to do the things their father could not.

 

Kanan The Last Padawan

It should be noted, as the Jedi are being murdered across the galaxy in Revenge of the Sith, the tale of another surviving Jedi is beginning, Kanan, who will eventually be a critical piece in the early days of the Rebel Alliance. The comic book series, Star Wars: Kanan–The Last Padawan, is only in it’s second issue, but is very promising so far. The second issue is especially good and one of the best new Marvel Star Wars issues that has been put out so far.

 

A Few Novels

 

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Approximately 5 years after the Prequel Trilogy, the novel Lords of the Sith picks up where our lost hero Anakin Skywalker ended and Darth Vader began. We meet a much more conflicted Vader and discover that the Emperor is nervous about the conflict we will later discover stirs in his new apprentice. It’s a great read and provides great insight into the relationship between Sidious and Vader.

 

Tarkin

Not long after Lords of the Sith, the events in the novel Tarkin take place. This novel serves primarily as a biography for Wilhuff Tarkin, but Darth Vader plays an important role, as well. An interesting revelation is no one actually knows who Darth Vader is. Some people suspect he may be a former Jedi, but no one is aware of Anakin Skywaylker’s betrayal against the Jedi, and it seems most Imperials just assume the Jedi have been eradicated. We also see the construction of the Death Star is one of the most carefully guarded Imperial secrets.

 

a new dawn

A New Dawn tells how Kanan came to meet his friend and co-pilot, Hera. Other than the two of them coming together, there are no huge implications for the rest of the Star Wars Universe. It takes place 8 years after the end of the Prequel Trilogy. Its sole purpose is to set the stage for what would come 6 years later…

 

Star Wars: Rebels

 

Rebels

We are just through the first season of Rebels, but each episode only saw the next improve. Set 5 years before A New Hope, the animated show is based around one of the first groups that ultimately formed the Rebel Alliance. We see the galaxy in the tight grip of Imperial control through the eyes of Ezra Bridger, an orphaned teen, living on the planet Lothal. Once Ezra joins up with the crew of the ship Ghost, one of the last surviving Jedi, Kanan, sees his skill in the Force and takes it upon himself to see Ezra trained in the ways of the Force. Familiar faces from Tarkin to Lando Calrissian to Darth Vader to Asohka Tano have shown up and are bound to be in the second season as well.

 

Star Wars Anthology Rogue One

 

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Under the moniker of “Anthology”, most speculate this film will show those who discovered and stole the plans of the first Death Star. Other than the brief teaser glimpsed at Star Wars Celebration, we can assume it takes place almost immediately before the Original Trilogy begins. Rogue has often been a call-sign of Rebellion pilots, so we can also assume it follows a Rebellion squadron of X-Wings.

 

The Original Trilogy

 

A New Hope

A New Hope meets the son of Anakin Skywalker, Luke, who has no idea of his lineage due to being raised on the remote planet Tatooine by his grumpy uncle in a fringe society. After stumbling upon a transmission of a distressed princess, Luke ventures off his planet to assist in a rescue mission under the guidance of Obi-Wan Kenobi (who tells him nothing of what his father has become). Along with Han Solo, a gun/pilot for hire, Luke and company rescue the princess from the Empire aboard their deadly weapon, the Death Star. Luke lends his skills as a pilot to flying an attack against the Death Star and saving one of the largest outposts of the Rebel Alliance. The rippling implications of this film are Obi-Wan’s death, leaving Luke to wonder about what the Force is and how he will become a Jedi without his old-friend’s guidance, as well as Darth Vader sensing something different about the young Rebel greatly touched by the Force.

 

Another Novel and A Few Comic Books

 

princess-leia

Immediately after the Death Star’s destruction, it is Princess Leia the Empire deems Public Enemy Number One and responsible for orchestrating the attack against the Death Star. No one really knows or cares about the unknown Skywalker…yet. The Marvel series Star Wars: Princess Leia covers Leia searching for the survivors of her recently destroyed home planet of Alderaan. This series takes place literally hours after the events of A New Hope.

 

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Although there is no specific timeline assigned to Heir to the Jedi, it does not seem to take place very long after the events of A New Hope and the Princess Leia-comic. This story concerns Luke Skywalker gathering intelligence for the Rebel Alliance and snatching up a defecting cryptographer. There is nothing of consequence in Heir to the Jedi, other than being inside young Luke Skywalker’s head for a few hundred pages, as the novel presents a first-person narrative. It may be the first place where the Excalibur-style lightsaber description appears, but the few sentences are vague, at best.

 

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From there, we have the overlapping Star Wars and Darth Vader comic series, which take place not long after Heir to the Jedi. The first tells of Luke’s first face-to-face encounter with the Sith Lord during a mission to destroy an Imperial factory.  This encounter sends Luke back to his home planet of Tatooine to search the home of the late Obi-Wan Kenobi. Darth Vader is beginning to sense who Luke might be, especially when Luke brandishes the lightsaber constructed by Anakin Skywalker. The seeds of Vader’s obsession with finding Luke are planted. Darth Vader picks up somewhere we can imagine Star Wars ending (NOTE: Neither of these arcs are complete, so where exactly they overlap in chronology is uncertain). The arc follows a disgraced Darth Vader, searching the galaxy for an army he can call his own, as he has a feeling his master is about to replace him.  Both of these series are excellent and are highly recommended.

 

Lando

It should be noted there is another Marvel series, Lando (scheduled for July 8 release), that will take place before he joined the rebellion, and before he ran Cloud City. The story will be about Lando trying to steal a very valuable ship with Lobot at his side.

 

Battlefront

Very recently a new novel called Star Wars Battlefront: Twilight Company was announced. The novel will be based on the video game and is set for a Nov. 3 release from Del Rey Books. It will be penned by Alexander Freed (writer for Dark Horse Comic’s Star Wars: The Old Republic and former writer for Mass Effect developer BioWare). The story is set between Heir to the Jedi and TESB, and will be about the fight between highly trained elite stormtroopers and the Rebel Forces in the trenches of worlds like Sullust, Coyerti, Haidoral Prime, and untold others.

 

Back to the Original Trilogy

 

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The Empire Strikes Back, set 3 years after A New Hope, could very well be called the “watershed” story in the Star Wars Universe. The most important thing to walk away from this story is that Luke Skywalker is on his way to becoming a Jedi Knight and he knows who his father is and what has become of him. Obi-Wan Kenobi lied to Luke and by the end of the film our hero is in pieces, physically and emotionally. The opening of this film also establishes that the destruction of the Death Star was not such a crippling blow to the Empire after all, as they swiftly crush the latest outpost of the Rebel Alliance.

 

ROTJ

Return of the Jedi, taking place one year later, shows us the end of the Empire and the Sith’s complete rule over the galaxy. Luke finally confronts his father, and in doing so, reawakens what is left of Anakin Skywalker. Anakin fulfills the prophecy of overthrowing the Sith, killing his master Darth Sidious, and restoring something resembling balance to the Force. Luke also discovers he is not the lone surviving Skywalker, Leia is his sister. The Original Trilogy comes to an end with Luke looking over a funeral pyre of Darth Vader’s armor. In the last seconds of the film, we see the Force-ghost of Anakin Skywalker, joining that of Yoda and Obi-Wan Kenobi, letting us know the late Jedi has become one with the Force.

 

Star Wars Uprising poster

Then we have Star Wars: Uprising – an upcoming mobile game, set shortly after the events of Star Wars: Episode VI Return of the Jedi, that deals with the aftermath of the Battle of Endor. This will be our first canonical look at how the galaxy comes to terms with death of the Emperor, and exactly how staggering a blow this really was. Gameplay takes place in the Anoat sector, home of Hoth and Bespin, and introduces new characters and locations.

 

Galaxy of Heroes

Also there is another mobile game called Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes, expected to be released sometime in 2015. The game will allow players to collect characters, vehicles, and more from the prequel trilogy, The Clone Wars, Star Wars Rebels, the original trilogy, and beyond and put those characters into the battle.

 

There are several other games like Battlefront, Commander, Galactic Defense, Beginnings, where characters and planets are canon but the gameplay is not.

 

Now what?

 

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This September, Del Rey and Marvel will begin releasing installments in what Lucasfilm is calling Journey To The Force Awakens. Del Rey will give us Aftermath, which takes place immediately after Return of the Jedi, and will show the scrambling Empire trying to dig its heels into the parts of the galaxy they control.

 

Shattered Empire

Marvel’s contribution will be a comic series called Shattered Empire that covers what is happening with our heroes post their victory at Endor. It’s not clear how far past the events of ROTJ these stories will take us, but from the moniker of the series, we should have some idea of where our characters may be when the Sequel Trilogy comes to us.

 

The Sequel Trilogy

 

TFA

The few solid things we know about The Force Awakens. It takes place 35 years after the events of Return of the Jedi. Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, Han Solo, Chewbacca, C-3P0, and R2-D2 will be somehow involved in the story. There are characters named Rey, a young female who resides on a desert planet called Jakku; Finn, a Stormtrooper who looses his garb at some point in the film; Poe Daemeron, an X-Wing pilot; Kylo Ren, an ominous figure who wields an Excalibur-style lightsaber which color indicates he is something of a villain (red lightsabers are traditionally used by Sith); Captain Phasma, a chrome Stormtrooper with a crimson trimmed cape; Maz Kanata, some sort of MOCAP character; and Supreme Leader Snoke, another MOCAP character that sounds a bit more foreboding. There is something called First Order that one could speculate is related to the Empire…but we are going to stick to the facts here. There are TIE Fighters, Star Destroyers, X-Wings, the Millennium Falcon, and some wrecked Star Destroyers to go along with them all.

 

The story and how it pushes the chronology forward while connecting back to the other stories featured in this chronology? Your guess is as good as mine ;).

 

Episode VIII

There will be an Episode VIII and IX, but both are yet to be titled and it’s doubtful more than a handful of people have any idea of what they will be about. There are also two more Anthology films, but no one is certain what they will cover and where in this chronology they will land.

 

There You Have It

 

Taking into consideration the Disney reboot, this is chronology of the events leading up to The Force Awakens, or more importantly the Sequel Trilogy and what else is to come. There is plenty of days left until December, so you should feel compelled to revisit as much of this chronology as you can. Or, maybe you want a fresh start, and would rather see The Force Awakens with a clear head. That’s fine too, and you can think of this as where we’ve been and (we can finally say) where we are going.

 

 

NOTE: There is a significant amount of junior novels, young readers books and color/sticker books, that are also considered canon, but we won’t cover them, since they have very little impact on the overall story.

 

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Kyle Larson lives in Portland, Oregon. When he's not running trails, he's reading and writing.

Kyle Larson

Kyle Larson lives in Portland, Oregon. When he's not running trails, he's reading and writing.

135 thoughts on “UPDATE! The Ultimate Guide to the New Star Wars Canon

  • June 16, 2015 at 8:20 pm
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    Having read all the new canon books out so far I was very dissapointed. nothing there at this point that’s the quality of the old EU

    • June 16, 2015 at 8:22 pm
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      It’s sad to hear, I like the comics so far, Kanan is my fav so far.

    • June 16, 2015 at 8:47 pm
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      Patience. Besides, maybe its better this way. A lot of old EU was too impressive and made the movies look minimal

    • June 16, 2015 at 8:54 pm
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      WTF was quality in the EU?

      • June 17, 2015 at 1:54 am
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        I Think Kotor was as good as the movies.

      • June 17, 2015 at 3:55 am
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        KOTOR 1 and 2, The Darth Bane Trilogy and the Darth Revan Book by Drew Karpyshyn, and the Darth Plagueis Book by James Luceno. All were excellent and its really unfortunate they aren’t canon. Some other decent stories that im not so sad about, but thought were ok are The Force Unleashed games’ storyline and the Jedi Academy storyline. There was some great content out there for sure and if youre unfamiliar with any of them, I highly recommend checking them out.

    • June 16, 2015 at 9:24 pm
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      I honestly think people are looking at the EU with rose-tinted glasses. I was about 7 years old when I was introduced to Star Wars and I considered Shadows of the Empire, Dark Forces, The Thrawn Trilogy, and the TIE Fighter video game just as valid as the OT movies. I still think they’re great and, with the possible exception of the Thrawn Trilogy, deserve to be included just because of their lack of interference with the films released afterward.

      That being said, with the release of Episode I, the EU started to become a mess. There was no consistency and the NJO series was devastatingly awful. It was as if someone decided to combine George R.R. Martin’s approach with a Star Trek storyline. The Clone Wars era was also constantly in flux and seemed to never know which way to go.

      I’m sure people will look at the new EU with just as much positivity as we gave to the old one with time. Just appreciate it for what it is (Hint: More STAR WARS) and move on!

      • June 16, 2015 at 10:16 pm
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        Seriously. It was fun nonsense catered specifically to fill a niche demand for more stories about Luke Skywalker and friends.

        None of it holds up as anything worthy of reverence. Even the Zahn novels are pretty terrible if you really take a fresh looks.

        • June 18, 2015 at 10:54 am
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          That’s EXACTLY how I felt about the NJO. Those books didn’t feel like star wars, hell they felt like they were unused scripts and designs rejected by the studio that made star trek and were just reworked by adding the force, lightsabers, and both the rebel alliance and empire. I mean fer crying out loud the yuuzhan vong design looks exactly like the aliens that attack the enterprise in the 10th Star Trek TNG film!!! ( the one that came out in 2002).

    • June 16, 2015 at 10:26 pm
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      Lords of the Sith was dope

    • June 17, 2015 at 4:26 am
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      “Having read all the new canon books out so far I was very dissapointed. nothing there at this point that’s the quality of the old EU”

      This is a very factual statement none of the new books are anywhere near the quality of the best of the old EU books (let alone other EU stories in other media). However there are a few clarifactions needed here.

      First off, Clone Wars is still canon and though Rebels isn’t as good as the best of Clone Wars overall it’s off to a much better start. The old Clone Wars (1st) series (anime) that isn’t canon lost its continuity status long ago so moot discussion there, though I liked it a lot. However most other old EU or non canon old cartoons/live action stuff where horrible such as Caravan of Courage, Battle for Endor, Ewoks, Droids, Holiday Special. Losing those was a good thing. This is one area Disney/Lucasfilm will likely dominant the old animation and live action stuff. Due to them following the Marvel model huge odds we will get more live action tv series and animated series at some point.

      A Heir to the Jedi was actually supposed to be an old EU story, this imho is the weakest of the new books. As to other old EU books there where many far worse then Heir to the Jedi but at the same time there where many far better then the best of the new books too. So far the new books are just so so (some arguably better, some arguably worse…), the old EU was more all over the place in quality but had far higher peaks and lower valleys. I’d say it’s most fair to say the old EU books started MUCH stronger due to Heir to the Empire and a few other great books, then went all over the place, the new continuity has started lackluster in comparison anyways. Better than the end of the old but they got an abrupt ending so moot point. In the Disney era my bet is we will mostly get lots of safe books that fill in gaps between movies and live action/animated stuff, so far less risky books usually means decent quality control vs the old but with a little risk small reward mentality. Big odds we’ll never get a Heir to the Empire book series again, but hopefully never a Crystal Star either.

      Comicwise for stories so far limited to all post A New Hope what Marvel is doing now is far better than almost any old EU comic set in the same time period. That said Princess Leia is the weakest of the new stuff and there was some old EU stuff set in this time period better. There was a few stories set in this time period in the old EU that where arguably better but it’d be a very subjective sale vs the new Star Wars or Darth Vader series. As to Clone Wars new comics all we got are 3 issues of Kanan, two of which where quite good and one a bit weak. Branching out to other time periods we have nothing to compare with. In an overall sense I’d say the old EU was better at its peaks (the new stuff has only had upwards of 6 issues a series in fairness though) but it had a far bigger junk series by percentage than the new. Overall the new Marvel stuff is arguably some of the best of the new continuity we’ve gotten thus far. This will likely be where we get the best none movie/tv stories for the near future as Marvel will put quality writers here to ensure massive sales as they are currently taking bold and risky chances with their marvel superhero comics as they create their “All-New All-Different Marvel universe” which seems to be trying draw in new MCU fans at the risk of alienating older readers such as X-Men and Fantastic Four fans (likely for the purpose of making sure they dont give Fox great free new movie ideas, so they get those franchises back). If it fails this way they still maintain their huge comic market share lead, if it succeeds then they’ll gain massive revenue lead in the comics.

      We have no new canon games, so currently the old wins hands down. Except this uprising app game most of the new upcoming stuff is rumored to be non canon so it will likely remain this way. I bet we’ll get continuity games eventually though.

      I haven’t read any new short stories that are new continuity, so I’m not able to judge here.

  • June 16, 2015 at 8:23 pm
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    I hope, I really hope that they retcon some of the Old Republic stuff from Legends.

    Honestly, what harm can come from Malgus era, Revan era stories? They are so far in the past they have zero connection to whats happening in TFA and beyond.

    Oh by the way, can you add something like hyperlinks to books and movies (via wikipedia or something) ?!

    • June 16, 2015 at 8:42 pm
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      I don’t play PC games, so I don’t know much about The Old Republic. What problem could SW:TOR cannon present that conflicts with the one presented here?

      • June 16, 2015 at 8:45 pm
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        *canon. seriously someone make an articoe about spelling of the word. Apparently having it written in the title of new canon related articles doesn’t make it understand to certain people

        • June 16, 2015 at 8:53 pm
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          lol You wrote “doesn’t make it understand to certain people”, and you’re going to critique my spelling.

          • June 16, 2015 at 10:22 pm
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            what’s wrong with the sentence?

          • June 17, 2015 at 12:41 am
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            Should have used understandable instead of understand.

          • June 17, 2015 at 12:55 am
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            that makes no sense… what kind of a correction is that… seriously, are you people american or have english motherlwnguage? cause I, the anon asking about correction and complaining about the misspelling of canon am not.

          • June 21, 2015 at 6:12 am
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            “what kind of a correction is that… ” a valid one.

          • June 17, 2015 at 12:56 am
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            what’s your primary language?

    • June 16, 2015 at 8:47 pm
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      Maybe they just want to rewrite old republic stuff. and spill out more money. wich from certain points of view to me is okay. Never really liked the “witch”-like powers of darth bane’s apprentice.
      either ways, I use this to look for canon media: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_canon_media

    • June 16, 2015 at 9:00 pm
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      Its a shame too because Revan at one point was going to appear in The Ghosts of Mortis story arc in TCW but Lucas didnt want him in there, so he was pulls from the episode. So close to canonization 🙁

      • June 16, 2015 at 10:05 pm
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        I’m still not completely convinced that it’s not supposed to be Revan’s mask that Kylo Ren wears in TFA. He might end up as part of the new canon yet.

        • June 17, 2015 at 4:00 am
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          Lets hope so. Although I do see some aesthetic differences (I think Revans mask is cooler, for the record) id be totally happy if he was canonized with a change being that slight

        • June 18, 2015 at 12:20 am
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          Kylo Ren’s mask looks basically nothing like Revan’s beyond the most superficial of descriptions.

          • June 18, 2015 at 12:55 am
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            I don’t think you know what the word superficial means.

            Maybe grab a dictionary. There definitely isn’t some kind of deeper way of physically looking at something.

            Yes Kylo’s mask looks extremely similar to Revan’s, in fact his entire outfit does.

            Except it’s not a dated computer graphic and has a lot more detail, and is as overall higher quality design.

            Of course that’s probably the extent of it.

          • June 18, 2015 at 4:39 am
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            The coloring, the design of the eyeguard, the design of the lower half… it really looks nothing like Revan’s. You might have had a point when they first showed an extremely low-rez and blurry version of the mask, but it’s pretty clear if you look at the mask shown at Celebration that it doesn’t look like Revan’s at all beyond “it’s a mask.”

          • June 18, 2015 at 9:42 am
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            Kylo Ren’s overall look is very obviously derivative of Revan.

            Of course it doesn’t look exactly the same and it shouldn’t. Revan is a character in a dated video game and the design isn’t high quality enough to transfer directly to film.

            But the difference is about on par with different versions of Batman on film.

            No one is arguing that it’s a direct translation. I do see one ignorant person indenial about there even being close similarities though.

    • June 16, 2015 at 9:17 pm
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      I really enjoyed playing KOTOR and SWTOR, however I’m happy some of the stuff that is presented there isn’t canon anymore, like the freaking Rakghoul plague for example. Remember, Revan probably still exists, it’s just a matter of time before something canonizes the main story of the Old Republic again.

    • June 16, 2015 at 9:26 pm
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      I guarantee there’s going to be a series of films about the beginnings of the Jedi and Sith conflict. Lucasfilm would be foolish not to explore the dynamics of that relationship that was so unclear in the PT. That’s why KotOR has to remain on its own in the old pre-ST era.

      • June 17, 2015 at 4:06 am
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        Well I believed it was stated at some point in canon (I believe in the clone wars) that Darth Banes rule of two was established over 1000 years ago, and even then there would have to be sith before him for it to make sense. So they at least have that much of a time frame to work with. Maybe making a movie strictly about the sith at some point in that milennia would be good, or even a darth bane movie/trilogy.

        • June 18, 2015 at 6:26 am
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          George’s ideas for the Sith were that they were roughly 2000 years old, starting with a fallen Jedi named Phanius, who took the name Darth Ruin. Naturally, the EU had them be much, much older so this was retconned to be just another schism. Phanius’ order lead to Bane, whose canon story can be seen in TCW S6 episode “Sacrifice.”

        • July 1, 2015 at 3:06 am
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          only if its rated R … Darth Bane was to BA to have a pg or pg13 movie

    • June 17, 2015 at 4:50 am
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      The stuff that goes on in the KoToR games DOES affect story of the movies when they involve concepts like hurting the force to kill it, and o that guy was really you and a few other less then enjoyable in my humble opinion ideas that don’t blend well with how everything works in the movies and shows. KoToR also has no unique designs that distinguishes itself from the movies even though there is supposed to be a 4000 year gap. (Sidenote: Tales of the Jedi looked vastly different from the movies and also took place only like 30 – 50 years before KotoR.) In summary KoToR isn’t a bad game it’s piece just dosen’t fit in the same puzzle that the movies do.

      • July 1, 2015 at 3:11 am
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        I also hated the fact that the pc was revan, the rakguals didn’t fit, and the whole wound in the force or devour a planet full of jedi yet killed in single combat or the whole revan lives for 300 years. it was just stupid. other than that I actually really enjoyed the first kotor

  • June 16, 2015 at 8:23 pm
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    Looks like you’re missing the short stories in Star Wars Insider. Those are canon as well.

    Besides that, good job. Someone should really make a nice up to date database.

    • June 16, 2015 at 9:39 pm
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      Are the Star Wars Insider short stories not the same as the short stories that will be included in the Rise of the Empire book (which is basically Tarkin, A New Dawn, and three new short stories)?

    • June 16, 2015 at 10:26 pm
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      I’m not quite sure..I can’t find any confirmation of that. I don’t really like that they are releasing canon stories in kind of obscure magazine and a collection of two books I already own separately.

      I like Star Wars Insider ok, but they only reason I’m subscribed is for the short stories. And that is a bit pricy.

  • June 16, 2015 at 8:32 pm
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    What about Shadows of the Empire? That was an awesome story, I hope they keep that canon

    • June 16, 2015 at 8:39 pm
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      You seriously havent read the enormous number of posts that reminds what is the new canon? anything published before april 2014 except the movies and the clone wars is legends.

    • June 16, 2015 at 9:17 pm
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      So many Star Wars fans are confused about this stuff, let me help you. Prior to the acquisition by Disney, all Star Wars content was categorized in canon levels. Only the films were the ultimate say in the matter and there was no real oversight and cohesiveness between the teams that worked on different projects.

      In other words, the EU was never actually canonized in the first place.

  • June 16, 2015 at 8:36 pm
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    The comics, novels and games are a great way to consume content between films and I’ve enjoyed a few side stories. But I have to admit, if it doesn’t happen on the big screen, it doesn’t really matter to me – canon or not, it’s pretty benign.

    • June 16, 2015 at 9:46 pm
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      That´s my point of view as well. To me, no matter how often Disney tries, canon are the movies and that´s it. The rest is just a good entertanment…well….not that good sometimes… 🙂

      • June 16, 2015 at 9:59 pm
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        Disney/Lucasfilm went out of their way to make an OFFICIAL DECLARATION as to what is and isn’t canon and I believe that us Star Wars (at least every one who calls themselves a true Star Wars fan) should comply with this mandate by recognizing this.

        That said, you don’t have to read everything that comes out that isn’t in movie form, but you at least recognize that there are stories out there that are officially a part of the Star Wars universe that are before, in between, and after the movies.

        • June 17, 2015 at 4:19 am
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          Well, prepare for the big surprise, I´m callin myself whole-life Star Wars fan and I still only care about the movies. Another big surprise – I don´t need to recognize anything. I´m my own master and I choose the movies to be the only canon – TO ME. I´ve seen EU always as a separate universe – mostly a milk cow and often with no very good quality story. Nothings changes now with the “new canon”, my point of view is the same. ANd even if by miracle the story of a cartoon, book or comics is superb, to me it will be always “the other Star Wars Universe (and I believe uncle George share´s my point of view in the matter). I will not argue with anybody convincing about “my truth”. I´ll let you with your preferences and please be so kind to let me freely decide what are mine. 🙂

          • June 20, 2015 at 1:36 pm
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            Bow down to the Canon you bitch!

      • June 17, 2015 at 4:23 am
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        But in all honesty, the movies have never been that exceptional really either. Dont get me wrong, I love them. The concept has always been great and the overall storyline is fantastic. But often the character development and dialogue is quite lackluster. The movies got me first interested in star wars, but the games and a lot of the EU made me love star wars. And I know dont speak alone in saying that some of the EU material was even better than the movies sometimes. Not all of it, but their are amazing gems within the EU

        • June 17, 2015 at 10:16 pm
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          It’s all relative, if you were alive when Star Wars was released, you’d realize the film was indeed very exceptional, the books however…
          Hahahajahaajaja ya no nothing exceptionally great about them as far as literature goes. Pfff

  • June 16, 2015 at 8:42 pm
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    That’s the point, It’s never “done.”

  • June 16, 2015 at 8:59 pm
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    That’s the point, It’s never “done.” Therefore “accepting” it is never an option.

  • June 16, 2015 at 9:11 pm
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    I think of it this way, because in terms of how the material was treated by the powers that be it’s accurate. The Expanded Universe was glorified fan fiction and it was never going to be endorsed by the films outside of special circumstances like a popular character making a cameo appearance.

    Since the transition, in order to bring new fans into the fold and really to better manage the company’s assets, Disney has decided to officially recognize that stance and wipe the slate clean.

    This allows them more creative freedom, effectively neutralizes debated about canon, and allows them to focus on a broader audience.

    Let’s face facts here, Star Wars is one of the most broadly appealing franchises ever, but the audience for the stories created in the books is very small and it would be a huge mistake for Disney to cater to those special interests.

    At least this way there’s a chance some of your favorite scenarios and characters from the Expanded Universe might pop up in another way and become canonized.

    On the flip side, I completely expect the franchise to become even more formulaic and homogenized, if anything truly great comes from this, it will be an anomaly.

  • June 16, 2015 at 9:11 pm
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    Well done, VH!
    Where does the new game “Galaxy Of Heroes” fit in?

  • June 16, 2015 at 9:12 pm
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    YOU LEFT OUT DARTH PLAGUEIS VERY FIRST 😀

    • June 16, 2015 at 9:23 pm
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      The Plagueis novel is not canon, and the events in that book are directly contradicted in Tarkin, where it is established that Plagueis died long before The Phantom Menace and before Sidious took Maul as his apprentice.

      • June 17, 2015 at 4:35 am
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        Huh? The Tarkin book did not say that. Go ahead and quote the book if you think so…

        • June 17, 2015 at 10:21 pm
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          Yes it did actually. Google it. The Tarkin novel established that Plagueis was killed before Sidious took Maul as his apprentice.

          Plagueis novel isn’t canon. It was released prior to the Disney acquisition.

          I didn’t have to read any of these stupid books to know this, what’s your excuse?

  • June 16, 2015 at 9:14 pm
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    Here’s my complete guide to Star Wars as I fallow it: If I don’t like, it didn’t happen. 🙂

    • June 16, 2015 at 9:41 pm
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      Here we go again: Someone that goes out of their way to troll about this matter, acting like they don’t care about it, yet they cared enough to comment.

      There’s Disney’s/Lucasfilm’s official declaration of what is and what isn’t canon, in other words, the official stories set in the SW universe, and then there your personal preference which you’re entitled to, but it doesn’t mean that you have to rain on every one else’s parade. If you don’t care for the extra material, that’s fine, but just don’t act like a lost puppy when you go in to view TFA and have no idea as to why things star off the way they are in the beginning of the movie.

      So go ahead and go about life with this “If I don’t like, it didn’t happen” attitude. Just don’t be surprise if people start questioning your Star Wars fandom and don’t take you seriously as the Star Wars fan you claim to be.

      • June 16, 2015 at 10:00 pm
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        So you are one of these guys who worship every fart comming from Disney/Lucasfilm? And if someone considers himself fanboy for over 30 years, yet feels free to choose his own canon (for example – only the movies) is not a Star Wars fan? 🙂 You are funny, my friend. It may shock you, but there are considerably more fanboys who never saw a cartoon, a comic book, then those who did. Like it or not, the movies ar by far more popular and known among people then the rest of so called Canon stuff. There´s no such thing as different level or category of fanboyism. You are a fan of Star Wars, or you aren´t. We don´t mess with you regarding your worshipping and your believe, we let you take the dictated canon so please, let us choose our own. We can easily live side by side and just enjoy Star Wars, I will enjoy the movies, you as well and comic books and cartoons and whatever else you like and everybody´s happy 🙂

        • June 16, 2015 at 10:52 pm
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          If you leave the movies concepts it is too much overload with expanded universe. When Lucas Arts came out with Dark Forces it complemented classic trilogy with easy to follow side mission leading up to ANH or ROJ’s stolen Death Star plans BUT if someone other than Lucas or Abrams project it could lessen stories qualities.

        • June 16, 2015 at 11:09 pm
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          Disney/Lucasfilm went out of their way to make an OFFICIAL DECLARATION as to what is and isn’t canon and I believe that us Star Wars (at least every one who calls themselves a true Star Wars fan) should comply with this mandate by recognizing this.

          That said, you don’t have to read everything that comes out that isn’t in movie form, but you at least have to recognize that there are stories out there that are officially a part of the Star Wars universe that are before, in between, and after the movies.

        • June 16, 2015 at 11:11 pm
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          Sorry that the truth hurts but yeah, it’s “fans” like you that aren’t allowing the Star Wars brand to evolve and are holding it back from blazing new trails.

          • June 17, 2015 at 4:34 am
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            You are free to think that I´m lesser fan than you because I don´t take EU as canon. Your thinking is diminished by your view tat only acceptance of whatever official statement of canon stuff leads to true devoted fan. You don´t understand that people can enjoy all the EU stuff (and by that I mean everyting non-movie), see it as different Galaxy and still be a fanboy. It is you who is making this a big deal.

      • June 16, 2015 at 10:01 pm
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        In that case, why don’t you stop whining when someone voices their discontent with the material?

        • June 16, 2015 at 10:10 pm
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          Sorry that it hurts that I’m calling out trolls that you try to, in a pathetic attempt, get on the defense about it and come up with some excuse as to you having a right to express displeasure.

          Actually, I’m not sorry at all.

          • June 16, 2015 at 11:03 pm
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            No you’re just a mindless consumer of bullshit and don’t have the slightest bit of sense to realize that Disney only cares about you so long as you’re giving them money.

          • June 16, 2015 at 11:14 pm
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            You know, for a troll, you’re really persistent.

            Disney/Lucasfilm went out of their way to make an OFFICIAL DECLARATION as to what is and isn’t canon and I believe that us Star Wars (at least every one who calls themselves a true Star Wars fan) should comply with this mandate by recognizing this.

            That said, you don’t have to read everything that comes out that isn’t in movie form, but you at least have to recognize that there are stories out there that are officially a part of the Star Wars universe that are before, in between, and after the movies.

          • June 17, 2015 at 3:15 pm
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            I can smell the BS when I skim a post and see the words “true fan”. Yup, BS.

          • June 18, 2015 at 9:33 am
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            I think you’re confusing the word “troll” with yourself. Also you’re a fucking retard that doesn’t even realize you’re talking to multiple people and we all disagree with you and your stupid as shit idea of “a true fan”.

            I true fan would tell you to shut the fuck up and don’t tell me what can or can’t like.

  • June 16, 2015 at 9:20 pm
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    The fact that so many new canon books are simply “re-canonizing” EU material is a testament to how grand and encompassing the EU is. The whole concept of a “new” canon is simply a cashgrab catered to casuals who were never invested in the holistic Star Wars universe before. Casuals still won’t read the new books, and the reboot will have been for nothing in the long run… just so they can have the Big Three in the new movies…

    • June 16, 2015 at 9:25 pm
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      They’re not though, they’re telling stories that are quite a lot different than before. I agree with your sentiment overall, but it’s just not accurate that they’re just retooling the EU into something slightly different.

      • June 16, 2015 at 10:25 pm
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        Storywise, no they’re not retelling the same thing, but they are making soooo many references to the EU that it shows that the EU was too good to completely throw away, even though Darth Disney will try in its efforts to make as much money off the lowest common denominator.

    • June 18, 2015 at 12:33 am
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      They said right fron the beginning that they were going to do that, that Legends material, while no longer canon, is free to use as a resource and for inspiration.

      Essentially, the setting that the EU developed is (mostly) there, but the stories aren’t.

  • June 16, 2015 at 9:31 pm
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    “If you are entering the Clone Wars series for the first time, start with the feature film, then move onto the series itself.”

    NO. The chronological order of the Clone Wars is different than the broadcast order, and I imagine the chronological order is more satisfying to most viewers. The chronological order may be found here:
    http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-the-clone-wars-chronological-episodeorder
    So start with Ep.216, then 116, *then* the movie.

    Also there are 8 unfinished episodes–2 story arcs–that have been released that are canon.

    Other than that, nice job.

  • June 16, 2015 at 9:57 pm
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    They said everything from now on is canon. Therefore,what about the new KOTOR?

    • June 18, 2015 at 12:35 am
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      No. They specifically stated that the TOR stuff isn’t canon at Celebration. It’s not the only material released post-wipe that’s not canon – the Imperial Handbook is Legends, as is FFG’s RPGs, and the Galactic Defense app is full of Legends material that’s completely contradictory to stuff established in the new canon.

    • June 18, 2015 at 10:22 pm
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      What new Kotor? There hasn’t been any new Kotor game announced. There was a new expansion for Swtor obviously because that game is still making money and that’s how you do it in an mmo, new content patches.

      It’s pretty retarded that anyone would assume a new content patch for Swtor would be canon when the game itself clearly is not. Lol

  • June 16, 2015 at 10:05 pm
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    Don’t forget about the new upcoming Battlefront: Twilight Company book.

  • June 16, 2015 at 10:20 pm
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    Raven appeared in Clone Wars last Yoda arch, which means KOTOR canon ?

    • June 17, 2015 at 12:42 am
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      That was Darth Bane in the last Yoda TCW arc. Revan never appeared in canon.

      • June 17, 2015 at 1:27 am
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        I acknowledged Bane, another scene, Revan pop up when Yoda encountered the force entity.
        Are there any one recognize that scene ?

        • June 17, 2015 at 9:00 am
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          Revan never appeared in TCW. Lucasfilm once thought to include him in the Mortis arc of TCW, but tht idea got thrown away. I think you’re confusing something. Revan neither appeared nor was mentioned in the new canon.

  • June 16, 2015 at 10:25 pm
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    I think that Darth Revan will be canon because George Lucas was interested in him. Also, I still hope that Grand Admiral Thrawn will be in Star Wars: Aftermath and that Mara Jade will be canon.

  • June 16, 2015 at 10:45 pm
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    They must adopt the battle of Yavin chronology to the new canon. It’s very irritating to read “approximately thirty years after battle of endor”. Lothal years-system, which is canon, is very impractical.

  • June 16, 2015 at 11:00 pm
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    I really hate that Darth Maul didn’t die at the TPM is still canon, he was cut in half and fall down a huge hole. This is the stupidest thing Star Wars has done.

    • June 16, 2015 at 11:20 pm
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      Call it the Boba Fett effect, where the cries of a large group of fans calling out for a non-story-essential character to be brought back into the universe are so loud that they have no choice but to figure out a way to bring the character back.

      • June 17, 2015 at 12:58 am
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        plus, i wouldn’t wanna fight Ray Park in a back alley.. so i assume that had something to do with it…

      • June 17, 2015 at 6:12 am
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        I wouldn’t call it “the Boba Fett effect” because what has been the effect? Despite our calls for that debacle to be rectified, we’ve been denied for over 30 years the satisfaction of seeing him escape. Sure the old EU novels and comics did but now “official canon” is that he is right back there “neither alive or dead”. Yeah, that’s real fan influence there let me tell you. Maul fans only had to wait what? 10 years?

    • June 17, 2015 at 12:15 am
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      Nah the stupid thing was killing off Maul in the first place and replacing him with a bunch of even less interesting villains.

      Throwing in Grevious out of nowhere in Episode 3 was just adding insult to injury, they would have been far better off bringing back Maul in Attack of the Clones and leaving Dooku out of it altogether.

      You know at least to give our heroes a villain to fight that was someone they had history with.

      They could have carved out such a better arch for Anakin if he were tasked with destroying Maul and wanted revenge for him killing Qui-Gon.

      • June 17, 2015 at 12:46 am
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        Nope. Wrong! His character served its purpose in the movie (and it was served). We don’t get to make the story, much less decide on how he would be involved. We just need to accept his role which was making the Jedi’s aware of the return of the Sith by making his presence known and starting the chain reaction that continued with the subsequent movies.

        • June 17, 2015 at 1:22 pm
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          No.

          His role sucked. We don’t need to accept bad storytelling from Lucas. First, Boba Fett; then Maul. Thank the Maker George didn’t off Vader in ANH, too. -_-

      • June 17, 2015 at 1:27 am
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        Really? You think Maul is the kind of charismatic, politically sophisticated mind who could organize a secessionist movement and convince the governments of thousands of sovereign star systems to join his cause?

        You wanna whine about a good villain killed off too quickly, pick Tarkin, not Maul. Maul, as per the above poster, served his purpose.

        • June 17, 2015 at 6:23 am
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          Taking his actions in Clone Wars into effect…yeah, he could have.

        • June 17, 2015 at 1:31 pm
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          Not only was Maul killed off too quickly, he was poorly conceived. He was a waste of a potentially good and iconic villain.

          Imagine combining the best of Dooku and Maul into one! Fierce, cunning, intimating, persuasive.

        • June 18, 2015 at 1:29 am
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          I guess you’d have a good point made there chief, if there was some kind of universal law that Attack of the Clones had to have a villain like Count Dooku, and if all three prequels didn’t suffer from a line up of boring villains who don’t even have enough screen time or interaction with our heroes to make us interested.

          Glad you’re firmly in your own close minded box. Such an interesting point of view you have there. Not

  • June 17, 2015 at 12:17 am
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    you guys forgot the new old republic game

    • June 17, 2015 at 10:49 am
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      just go in the previous comments. thats non canon

  • June 17, 2015 at 1:09 am
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    Ok, he says The Force Awakens takes places 35 years after ROTJ. I know this is nitpicking, but I’ve heard 30 years, and 32 years. (32 years is in reality how long it’s been since the older actors were in ROTJ. Where did he arrive at 35 years?

  • June 17, 2015 at 1:20 am
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    Kathleen Kennedy ,president of LFL,you are incapable of convincing me everything in the Star Wars Expanded Universe has been reset.That is why you fail!

  • June 17, 2015 at 1:45 am
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    Im reading and reading about all that never ending battle on new canon/old canon, true canon/false canon and only what I can say is… “GOOD, GOOD. LET THE HATE FLOW THROUGH YOU” ;]

  • June 17, 2015 at 2:22 am
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    Is there a more detailed account to where the specific issues of comics fall within the timeline? I know that Vader and Star Wars comics are interconnected but at different points.

  • June 17, 2015 at 3:11 am
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    Just got done reading “Tarkin”. Its funny how the EU is being set aside for new canon, yet the book uses events that happened in some of the EU books James Luceno wrote. Whatupwiththat?

  • June 17, 2015 at 3:18 am
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    Darth Plagueis:
    That is all 🙂

    • June 17, 2015 at 2:36 pm
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      No.

  • June 17, 2015 at 3:20 am
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    The new stuff is LAME. Disney and Lucas just want to squeeze more and more money out of us. I’m done with that. I spent a lot of money over the years on the expanded universe. Not wasting any more. My kids wanted the new figures and they are $12.99. For a 3-3/4″ action figure??? Now they are pushing more books and other garbage. I’ll watch the movies but I’m done with the rest. No harm in me keeping the EU my Star Wars universe.

  • June 17, 2015 at 4:32 am
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    I would pay into a kickstarter to bribe Lucasfilm to make the Darth Plagueis book canon. Easily my favorite Star Wars book ever.

  • June 17, 2015 at 7:22 am
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    i dont like the idea of a rigid canon … film makers shouldnt be restricted in what they do because of what happened in a cartoon or book and should be allowed to ignore anything that isnt in the films.

    • June 17, 2015 at 1:38 pm
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      Until I see a Rebels, novel or comics character show up in a Star Wars film in a meaningful way, I’ll continue to regard “canon” as simply a marketing term use to push product.

      • June 17, 2015 at 4:55 pm
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        exactly! You put in the merchandise magic formula “canon” and for that one word you see how much more “true fans” will buy it 🙂 hillarious 🙂 like sheeps….

        • June 17, 2015 at 5:14 pm
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          The term canon (I would say it’s rather a media term, than marketing) is very useful to make a storyline at least partly cohesive(especially if you talking about different medias). It’s a very good “tool”, if you ask me.

          Despite I like big, cohesive storylines, if I buy something SW, I don’t buy it because it’s canon, but because it’s looks to be entertaining. The fact that it doesn’t contradict, and nicely fits into other medias is just a bonus.

    • June 17, 2015 at 7:07 pm
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      Do you think filmmakers should be restricted by what’s happened in the other movies?

  • June 17, 2015 at 1:48 pm
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    I understand those who thinks that only the movies should be canon. And I can accept it…partly. I think the movies should be on the highest level.
    But you can understand too, that there are a lot of people who like to entertain themselves with other medias. For example I love reading. On some parts, it can tell a story better than a movie. I think those people deserve one, big, cohesive “world”, where the different medias (movies, TV shows, books…) don’t contradict eachother. The movies have to stand on their own feet, but if you want to learn more about this fictional “world”, you can check it for exapmle by reading a book.

    I don’t have problems with “alternate” stories though (like X-men, where The Last Stand, and the Wolverine movies are alternate timelines, rather than part of the main storyline). But I like big storylines more. For this reason I don’t have a problem with the two different timelines (Legends and new canon).

    A storyline with this scale is a huge task, but it can be worked out, especially if the studio wants to.
    You don’t have to accept the happenings in any other media if you don’t want to. But it’s an interesting question if this is any different from that if I choose not to accept the story of the Star Trek movies for example. I can say that the Star Trek is mainly a TV series and for me only those are valid.

  • June 17, 2015 at 2:48 pm
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    These canon things are intended to be utilized for selling more novels, comics, toys. Also it deprives potential filmmakers of creative freedom , which makes prominent director like Brad Bird less interested in the Star Wars saga.

    • June 17, 2015 at 2:50 pm
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      The whole Star Wars buisness is about money, even the movies.

  • June 17, 2015 at 2:57 pm
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    dose any one know if STAR WARS: The Old Republic – Knights of the Fallen Empire is canon ???

    • June 17, 2015 at 3:03 pm
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      I think it’s part of the Legends timeline.

    • June 17, 2015 at 3:21 pm
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      http://www.gamespot.com/articles/lucasfilm-confirms-all-future-star-wars-content-to-be-canon-including-the-games/1100-6419225/

      Check out the link. Apparently, the Old Republic is the exception to the rule of all new media being canon. Lucasfilm still views the era as established in the game as non-canon. But I’m willing to bet that the new game was delayed in part so that the story group could review the content. Even though it’s not canon, they might want to make sure that new content is not in contradiction to the current canon so that if they do decide to bring the OR into canon they will minimize retcons. Just a thought.

  • June 17, 2015 at 3:14 pm
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    It’ll be cool, It’s Fucking STAR WARS!!!!

  • June 17, 2015 at 4:20 pm
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    what about the other clone wars series? It is canon as well, correct?

  • June 17, 2015 at 4:42 pm
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    You forgot some YA novels: the series “Servants of the Empire” and the stand alone “Ezra’s Gamble.” Though I guess they can be included with “Rebels.”

  • June 17, 2015 at 5:38 pm
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    Ten years from now, there will be inconsistency among the Canon. Rian Jhonson and following directors wil pursue their creative vision. Story group , Kira Hart can not control everyhing.

  • June 17, 2015 at 7:02 pm
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    too bad they are not canon…I liked them better than the entire 6 year season of clone wars. They tied everything up nicely…no made up apprentice for Anakin. but, then again…I preferred the EU over all of this new stuff they are writing. Case in point, Han with a wife???wtf?

    • June 17, 2015 at 7:28 pm
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      Well, as far as I know the original series were not canon even in the previous system. GL himself said that the new series is the new installment of the SW canon.
      While the original had it’s pros, the new one managed to do better in some areas: story-telling, character development, and yeah the clones were not just background characters.
      But I liked the old series very much too. 🙂

      I don’t really understand why it’s a problem, that a women said to be Han’s wife. We know nothing about her. It is highly possible, that she not really his wife. Maybe Han lost a gambling or something like that.
      I think this whole Han’s wife thing was greatly overreacted.

  • June 17, 2015 at 10:36 pm
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    So Ulic Qel-Droma is cannon, since he appeared in clone wars..

    • June 18, 2015 at 12:41 am
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      No, he didn’t. I have no idea where you got that idea from because the only established “character” from material set prior to TPM was Darth Bane, and even then that wasn’t actually him but an illusion created to test Yoda.

  • June 18, 2015 at 1:12 am
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    Sorry your right. It was a cut scene from a clone wars video game, that Anakin spoke to the ghost of ulic.. I just remembered the clone wars style of animation

  • June 18, 2015 at 3:08 am
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    Very sad that Clone Wars (the 2003 series) is not canon. That was fantastic and adds just a great deal of emotion to the events that led to Anakin’s fall. No one is going to stop me from watching it, though. Ha.

  • June 18, 2015 at 10:09 pm
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    I’m not whining about the loss of the EU, but I am annoyed at how quickly they’re trying to refill every gap. Take your time, and give us stuff to look forward to! At this rate, there won’t be room for any new stories in five years.

    • July 1, 2015 at 3:41 am
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      they are probably afraid that the st will flop

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