Influx of Character Rumors for Star Wars: The Force Awakens.

Table ReadA little birdie dropped by Making Star Wars not too long ago, and it peeped about quite a bit of rumored plot information. Check it our after the jump. Beware of potential spoilers.

 

 

The obligatory spoiler warning goes here. Don’t read ahead unless you want to give the plot of the movie away.

 

Jason Ward wrote a piece describing a series of plot details in Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens.

 

First and foremost, there are two subjects in the article that we can verify from our own source. The first of which is something we reported on previously, which stated that Poe would be captured and thrown into a brig on a Star Destroyer, Finn would rescue him before defecting from the Empire, the two would hijack a TIE fighter to escape, and both would run into Rey after crash-landing. Jason’s article presents a similar situation with a few key differences – namely, that Poe and Finn are locked up in the brig together, and that they are both saved by Rey after they attempt to break out. How she ended up on a Star Destroyer in this version of the scenario is not explained, and it’s entirely possible that the brig in this version of events is simply on-planet instead of in space. Differences aside, that both scenarios are close in description could indicate that we’re on to something here.

 

 

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The second verification is much more recent, and it provides evidence that the bird that spoke to Jason Ward and company is very much “in-the-know”. It regards Jason’s description of a feature that the movie’s new droid sidekick, BB-8, has:

It turns out that Rey has a lightsaber which holds information vital to the rebellion and this is hidden inside BB-8.

 

Our source told us that this is 100% in the movie and that this is the kind of knowledge that somebody who was tied to the film would know.

 

 

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Here are some excerpts from Jason’s post:

  • Luke is in hiding for much of The Force Awakens (though he apparently had time to train apprentices beforehand, so he has not been gone for a full 20-30 years as some reports suggested). He is guarding the tomb of a Sith Lord from those who wish to unlock it in order to to learn his secrets – the influence of the Dark Side there has left him unstable when we first meet him, but he has not turned.
  • Kylo Ren is trying to gain access to this tomb (which he knows how to open), and he is searching for important Force artifacts relating to the Force in order to open it. Part of the reason why he chases after Rey is because he believes that she might have the key in question – and he’s right. Her lightsaber’s crystal is the key to opening the tomb, which is described as a “Pandora’s box” of sorts.
  • Domhnall Gleeson’s role in the movie establishes him as the son of a “huge character” (likely one we’ve met before) and was a former Rebel leader before defecting to the Empire. His reason for defecting was that he discovered that the Rebels were secretly constructing a superweapon to combat the Empire. While he’s officially allied with the Empire, the reality is that he’s playing both sides in order to destroy any superweapons that either side possesses while also keeping on Finn’s trail, effectively making him an anti-hero.

 

For the full piece go to Making Star Wars.

 

Although many of the aspects of this story make sense and it’s indeed interesting, I really find it hard to believe that someone would have such knowledge for the whole plot of the movie. This would mean that this source have read the whole Episode VII script, which is highly unlikely. As we know even the actors have read only parts of the script that are closely connected with their roles. Still the same can be said about our story from a few days ago. Nevertheless it’s an interesting read that gives us even more food for thought.

 

On semi-related note, there have been a couple of rumors that February would be a time of year in which details about The Force Awakens would start to leak out to the public after certain key non-disclosure agreements expire. It’s interesting that we get word of this information right at the start of the month.

 

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Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.

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Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.

85 thoughts on “Influx of Character Rumors for Star Wars: The Force Awakens.

  • February 5, 2015 at 11:03 am
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    Jeeez dumb the lightsaber into a sun , problem solved…

    • February 5, 2015 at 6:02 pm
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      If the crossguard lightsaber turns out to be one of the Sith artifacts, I wonder who it belonged to? Darth Plagueis? Possibly bringing it to the tomb to as some kind of homage to Plagueis, but igniting it(as we saw in the trailer) and using it to fight Luke as he attempts to enter the tomb?

      • February 6, 2015 at 1:28 am
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        The confusing part for Me is the Kylo Ren journey. What lightsaber has Rey got,Red Blue or Green?.If He needs a crystal to open a sith tomb,wouldn’t it be red? Maybe it’s the crossguard saber he’s searching for and is literally the key to open the tomb?. Spoilers are fun,they just open more questions.. 🙂

  • February 5, 2015 at 11:04 am
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    Sounds like a cooler plot than “a baby pod racing pilot helps a Padawan get his old weak master killed by scary faced devil horned pansy.

    • February 5, 2015 at 12:34 pm
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      If you think this is well, you must watch kids cartoons frequently. This tripe for hardcore fantasy fans.

      • February 5, 2015 at 2:08 pm
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        I disagree, Star Wars needed to go into a fantasy direction after Return Of The Jedi.

        The plots for Star Wars films have never been complex, I think this sounds fine. Though i’m concerned as to whether A LOT will happen in the film or whether it will feel very short.

        • February 5, 2015 at 3:29 pm
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          Just think of how quickly this movie will seem to pass as we watch it. It will probably be the most intently I’ve ever watched anything since TPM.

        • February 5, 2015 at 4:21 pm
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          I don’t think TFA has to be long and complex to be excellent. ANH was very basic and to the point and look how that turned out!

        • February 5, 2015 at 4:48 pm
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          If the story feels complicated it won’t have much resonance or sense of momentum and might require a lot of exposition. I’m a touch concerned about that in TFA. Most of the best stories can be reduced to just a few sentences (Back to the Future, ANH, The Wizard of Oz, Lord of the Rings etc).

    • February 5, 2015 at 2:19 pm
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      Ha!!! Freakin hilarious!!!ESB is king!

  • February 5, 2015 at 11:48 am
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    Could anyone please give me spoiler free’ish answer because I want to stay away from the heavy spoilers: As an OT lover and PT hater (!) on a scale from 1-10 how much will I like this plot? I have to add that I do love the old stuff but what I want is the old spirit but coming with new ideas along those lines. Those rumored complaints about an Episode IV all over again kinda got me concerned.

    • February 5, 2015 at 4:07 pm
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      Sounds to me like it’s a way better story than IV and V, but not as good as VI and III. 7/10? 🙂

      • February 5, 2015 at 4:37 pm
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        This seems to be the basic plot. The deeper plot has to be the Dark side versus the Light. Possibly Rey’s turn to the dark side? I say save your opinions on the plot till after you see the movie. There are things in motion that you have no clue about I am sure…

      • February 5, 2015 at 11:52 pm
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        Sounds to me like dinner’s almost ready.

    • February 5, 2015 at 4:36 pm
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      Impossible to say, based on the information you’ve given. Keep in mind, this is likely just a portion of the plot- if it’s even accurate at all.

      As a lifelong fan who, like you, prefers the OT to the PT, I’m not worried at all. Does that help a little?

    • February 5, 2015 at 4:37 pm
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      btw- if your trying NOT to be spoiled, you’re in the wrong place.

      • February 6, 2015 at 12:05 am
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        Spoiled food always tastes better, or is it bitter?

  • February 5, 2015 at 11:49 am
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    I’m not too keen on this plot sounds like a script from an Indiana Jones movie, secret tombs, crystals that open up tombs it sounds Pish!

    • February 5, 2015 at 7:59 pm
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      Rrrraaaaarrrrggghhhhhh!

      (Probably Lucas’ treatment).

  • February 5, 2015 at 11:52 am
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    Seems the Rebels have slowly become what they were fighting against.If the super weapon plot is true..

    • February 5, 2015 at 8:11 pm
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      This is often true in historical terms, America has become what they loathed about the British Empire, in Latin American revolutions, often old oligarchs are replaced with new ones. So it is quite poignant.

      • February 5, 2015 at 11:34 pm
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        Sort of like Carrie Fisher eventually became Jabba the Hut.

        • February 6, 2015 at 12:08 am
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          Well at least she admits that alcohol and Butterfingers were her downfall.

        • February 6, 2015 at 2:54 am
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          Show some tact.

  • February 5, 2015 at 12:40 pm
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    Could Domhnall Gleeson be the son of Mon Mothma?

    • February 5, 2015 at 6:49 pm
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      Mon Mothma was fairly old even in Jedi so I doubt he’s her son cause he looks far too young. My guess is, unless “Poe Dameron” is a code name, Gleeson is probably Wedge Antilles’ son.

      • February 5, 2015 at 8:01 pm
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        That was my first thought.

  • February 5, 2015 at 1:19 pm
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    He is so Lukes son…

    • February 5, 2015 at 5:17 pm
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      No. He is Lobot’s son. Discussion done. Thank you.

      • February 5, 2015 at 11:51 pm
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        Darth Maul

    • February 5, 2015 at 8:14 pm
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      @ Anon 13:19

      Nope. I highly doubt it ;). Nice wishful thinking though.

    • February 6, 2015 at 12:10 am
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      He’s my boy!!!

  • February 5, 2015 at 1:30 pm
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    Wow. A StrWars/Indy mix. There are informations vital to the Rebels INSIDE the funny droid….hmmm, where did I see that before….superweapon..hmm…..great plot. And good guy turning bad and bad guy turning good…OMG what a coincidence! Both at the same time choose to join the other side….wow….ancient tomb, opening key….just wow…

    • February 5, 2015 at 3:29 pm
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      I think you hit the nail on the head there buddy I’m not impressed at all in fact my enthusiasm has dropped like a bounty hunter into a sarlac pitt 🙁

  • February 5, 2015 at 1:44 pm
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    Told you I did.
    Reckless is he.

    Now matters are worse.

    The Saga ends on VI.

  • February 5, 2015 at 1:56 pm
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    Domhnall Gleeson’s character is the son of Nien Nunb, sibling to eight other children that said alien fathered after his mother found out what his name translates into…true.

  • February 5, 2015 at 1:57 pm
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    This sounds pretty good to me – the idea of a tomb that must not be opened i.e. Pandora`s Box – ties in perfectly with the mythological themes which run through Star Wars,which is EXACTLY why I love it so much;but who`s tomb is it – Darth Plagueis?…Hope this is true:}

  • February 5, 2015 at 2:01 pm
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    I like it..

  • February 5, 2015 at 2:05 pm
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    …was just thinking,if these reports are true then Luke`s probably going to die in TFA – `cos obviously the tomb will be opened at some point in the movie – and he wouldn`t just stop guarding it for any reason other than dying.

    • February 5, 2015 at 9:53 pm
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      Once Pandora’s box is open, there’s no re-sealing it. Luke would have no purpose in guarding a tomb once the malicious presence within it is out.

    • February 6, 2015 at 12:21 am
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      I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that Luke dies at the end of TFA and the next two movies are about him hanging out in the afterlife with Yoda and OB1. It will be like a “Weekend at Burnie’s” plot but on a Disney Cruse.

  • February 5, 2015 at 2:19 pm
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    yea has anyone actually watched the teaser… this plot relates to it in absolutely no way whatsoever

    • February 5, 2015 at 2:26 pm
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      How the hell do you know that? They haven’t shown us anything!

    • February 6, 2015 at 6:07 pm
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      ‘Teaser’

      The English language is a funny thing. We use it a lot, without understanding what it actually means.

  • February 5, 2015 at 2:42 pm
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    The first draft of Empire had Luke finding a crystal “memory cell” in his lightsaber that led him to Dagobah when he plugged it into R2.

  • February 5, 2015 at 2:43 pm
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    “It turns out that Rey has a lightsaber which holds information vital to the rebellion and this is hidden inside BB-8.”

    Sounds a bit unoriginal. Wasn’t that part of the plot of Ep 4? R2 holding the plans to the Death Star? I believe so!

    Wow – almost 40 years later and we’re getting the same plot idea. That’s progress! 😛

    • February 5, 2015 at 3:32 pm
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      Star wars is supposed to rhyme. So there’s that I suppose.

    • February 5, 2015 at 3:35 pm
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      I thought the same thing. Hopefully some of the other aspects are original.

    • February 5, 2015 at 6:26 pm
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      We had ancient Sith spirits in TCW, hell, we had Darth Bane in the new canon before Plagueis!

      • February 5, 2015 at 9:54 pm
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        That was an illusion. Darth Bane is dead and buried.

  • February 5, 2015 at 3:40 pm
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    Star Wars nerds are the worse. You complain and argue about anything and everything

    • February 5, 2015 at 6:06 pm
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      Oh I’m definitely in the club. It’s just silly to whine and complain about the thing we supposedly love. Come on people it’s Star Wars. Just enjoy it

      • February 5, 2015 at 6:27 pm
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        I hate when people say “just enjoy something” regardless of quality.

        • February 5, 2015 at 11:49 pm
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          What, are you talking about I never said that.

      • February 5, 2015 at 9:14 pm
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        And if everyone did that, we’d get more movie like the prequels. You’re the one who should stop whining.

  • February 5, 2015 at 3:47 pm
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    Gleeson is a Skywalker.

    I knew it all along 🙂

    • February 5, 2015 at 11:49 pm
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      Yup, everyone was waiting for anonymous user “thereisanother”‘s take on how things will play out.

  • February 5, 2015 at 3:49 pm
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    Needing to blow up a planet that houses the Empire super weapon with a Rebel-made death star, leia in 2 minds as to whether to build it?????
    Not the best sounding plot as I am sick of the death star keep getting built – do you think they have learned to plug the exhaust ports?
    But I am still holding (A New) Hope this will still be kick ass

    • February 5, 2015 at 4:42 pm
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      I would cry laughing if a pilot comes up on the exhaust port during a trench run and says, “Aw damn…” and there is a big plug in the hole… LMAO

    • February 6, 2015 at 12:31 am
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      It almost makes sense with the way Hollywood likes to write their films today. If they can show the dilemma of how they might use a weapon in a good way, yet is labeled to be bad. That way they can all make/help us “think” about how we should be a bunch of pacifists.

  • February 5, 2015 at 4:24 pm
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    Nice plot.
    They should also include an old Jedi master who is killed by the main evil character and the young person who the Jedi master was teaching screams out, “Nooooo!!!”.
    And then the young Jedi-in-training and his friends all escape where they are pursued by four TIE-fighters!
    Fuck yeah!!!

  • February 5, 2015 at 4:46 pm
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    Pulls a manila envelope out…. “NIEN NUNB, YOU ARE THE FATHER!”

  • February 5, 2015 at 4:52 pm
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    Lucas (like Wagner in his ‘Ring Cycle’) used leitmotif HEAVILY in ALL of the Star Wars films. It is literally peppered all throughout the saga. Why this worries some of you is really confounding. It is a central ingredient OF Star Wars.

    You seem to want an impossible contradiction. If it strays from formula, you cry foul, if it follows formula, you also cry foul.

    Do any of you reactionary types actually want to see another Star Wars film … or do you just have a pathological need to be disappointed?

    • February 5, 2015 at 5:27 pm
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      They want what their minds have made up Star Wars *should be. This was Mark Hamils fear when he said (paraphrasing) he was worried it wouldn’t meet people’s expectations.

      We can even bring this around to the prequels. A lot of hate here for those…but they were exactly what GL said they were going to be. TPM was for kids, AotC was a love story and RotS was the fall of Anakin.

      I constantly see all the screams and moans about those prequels…and to be honest, they aren’t my favorite but I still enjoy them. But Lucas did something right…My son, who is 10, his favorite SW is TPM. All of his friends who are into SW…TPM is their favorite. GL captured something in those kids imagination just like he captured in mine over 30 years ago with ANH.

      Just my 2 cents.

      • February 5, 2015 at 6:45 pm
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        I was a kid when the prequels came out, in fact Star Wars was ep 1-6.. I had no prior experience with the OT and I enjoyed all 6 episodes. Now that I’ve gotten older, the prequels just don’t hold up.. not because they are not what I expected, but because they are highly flawed. I kinda have to forget about them to enjoy the OT now.

        • February 5, 2015 at 11:10 pm
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          My 12 year old rolled his eyes and laughed in the wrong places during Episodes 1-3 recently. He also saw them when he was younger and even he said they were just dumb in places now he has seen them again, and 4-6 were better.

        • February 5, 2015 at 11:31 pm
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          “only now at the end do you understand…”

        • February 6, 2015 at 6:53 am
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          “I enjoyed all 6 episodes.” So did I and I still do.

  • February 5, 2015 at 5:22 pm
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    The story sounds promising….I just really hope Kylo Ren is either a Solo or a Skywalker. This is, after all, a story of that family. I would love for Luke to be put in a situation towards the end of the movie where he has to decide whether or not to kill Kylo Ren because he knows he’s evil…but at the same time can’t because he’s “family”.

    To me…this would be a great deeper plot that can be explored in not only TFA but the 2 movies to come. In essence…it would be great for Kylo Ren to be a “Jacen Solo” type character. I’m no fan of the EU but I just think adding that dynamic to this new trilogy will keep the family drama going and prevalent.

  • February 5, 2015 at 6:31 pm
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    I met domnall gleeson a few weeks ago in dublin’hes was doing a show with his father and brother’they were all amazing actors’a very nice man also with his time and very interested in what i thought of the show’no problems photos also’did not mention Star wars’but have to say’he looks alot like luke skywalker from Star Wars new hope’i believe he must be lukea son.

    • February 5, 2015 at 7:19 pm
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      can i buy you a comma and a full stop please 🙂

  • February 5, 2015 at 7:13 pm
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    What if Luke is guarding the tomb of Revan? Or maybe Darth Malek!

    I mean these are just rumors people calm down watch the movie after you do then rip the plot apart.

    Some of you people are worse than the PT haters then again you probably did hate the PT.

    • February 5, 2015 at 8:15 pm
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      Not gonna lie…I’m one of those who says the PT is comprised of 3 of the worst movies, in any genre, ever put on film.

      With that being said…I have high hopes for this movie. It just feels like they’re going a different direction. No matter what we should all be grateful and happy that we’ll get more Star Wars in our lifetime. For a long time I thought the OT was going to be the only movies we would ever get.

  • February 5, 2015 at 7:46 pm
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    Its Star Wars not a school lesson’its about fun and being entertained i have a feeling some people will only complain about everything.i like George lucas hes great and like the last 3 movies also’many kids enjoyed them as much as i did the first 3.i love Star Wars thats why i am on this site.

  • February 5, 2015 at 8:41 pm
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    Kylo ren is really jar jar. Jar jar was posessed by the spirit of plagueis after sidious electro-fried him. He then helped sidious (because it was his plan anyway) gain power and wipe out the jedi and the old republic for him. We never saw jar jar die. Now he’s at it again! Kill jar jar, kill the sith for good!

  • February 5, 2015 at 9:02 pm
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    I thought please correct me if I’m wrong and in sure there will be some corrections 😉 BUT is the force something you learn from a book, artifact? The movies never gave us a HOW TO USE THE FORCE AND INFLUENCE THE WEAK MINDED ” how to book it was passed down person to person. Why in the name of jar jar would there be an artifact that would what unlock the secrets of life and death I’m sorry but this knowledge would I think have died with Plaguis / Palpatine. Is this ok or well wide of the mark?

    • February 5, 2015 at 9:12 pm
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      You are on a Star Wars fan site. Have you seen the Star Wars movies? They will answer your question as well as any of us could.

    • February 5, 2015 at 11:48 pm
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      Thats, right LEAVE HIM ALONE

  • February 5, 2015 at 9:19 pm
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    Smartest thing about MSW is how he doesn’t allow comments.

    So many lols….

    • February 5, 2015 at 11:47 pm
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      You said it bro, Star War-lurs need to worry about Crumb Wars.

    • February 6, 2015 at 2:35 pm
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      I don’t even bother with MSW and their concept art descriptions.

      I just wait for the art to popup on MF.com

  • February 5, 2015 at 11:46 pm
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    Sounds like Kyle got in contact with Jason.

  • February 6, 2015 at 3:35 pm
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    During ROTJ “Fake scripts were distributed to some cast members that were considered likely to leak information to the media. Some of these phony story elements were indeed leaked, such as Lando being revealed as the “last hope” for the Jedi mentioned by Obi-Wan and Yoda in ESB.”

  • February 6, 2015 at 9:52 pm
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    Im hoping beyond hope this is just false leaked info, intentionally leaked by JJ.

    Im done with the ‘rescuing’ people from an Imperial prison. Super Weapons. Forced conflict.

    I was hoping for some original ideas and not a rehash of shit we have already seen.

  • February 10, 2015 at 5:48 am
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    If Gleeson is really Luke’s son he would never have a chance to even see his father as an adult if the rumor about disappearing for 30 years is true. Gleeson looks around 30-ish.

    There was an old rumor awhile back that mentions his mother is dead. The son is searching for Dark Side power to resurrect her.

    The rumor was wrong but it kind of hints as partial truth, since Gleeson is suppsosedly on the Imperial side now after defecting.

    Luke hatched already mentioned plan to be a double agent and somehow relayed this message to his wife by meditating since she is force sensitive I suppose, while he was in hiding guess. But if Gleeson is force sensitive and the Empire is still using ways to track force sensitives after the Purge, surely he would have been discovered? He’s not at all experienced to hide himself from detecTion and would be untrained since Luke is in hiding! Unless their is a hidden Jedi teacher who taught him everything he knows that we don’t about.

    Below is the old rumor about Luke’s son from last year:

    – The cyborg villain is actually Luke’s son. Having lost his mother (*to be explained via exposition or flashback perhaps?), he is seeking dark side knowledge to resurrect her. When Luke learns that his son has fallen to the dark side, he goes into exile to avoid the inevitable confrontation and battle with his offspring.”

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