Collider Jedi Council! Ron Howard Takes Over As Han Solo Director, New Or Re-Cut “The Last Jedi” Trailer? And More

On this episode of Collider Jedi Council:
Kristian Harloff, Mark Ellis, Perri Nemiroff and Mark Reilly discuss Phil Lord and Chris Miller’s departure from the upcoming Han Solo movie; Colin Trevorrow’s request to add a scene to Episode VIII; Is the upcoming new trailer for the “The Last Jedi” just a recut?; What’s the real story behind the drama between Lucasfilm, Lord and Miller?; thoughts on Ron Howard taking over Han Solo; What’s the Deal With Canon?; A Short Time Ago, In a Tweet Far, Far Away…. and more!

 

 

 

 

Collider’s team wants to hear from you! The Council takes on all your Twitter questions you send in @ColliderVideo with the hashtag #ColliderJediCouncil.

 

 

George Lucas and Ron Howard on the set of American Graffiti

 

May the force be with you….

 

 

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22 thoughts on “Collider Jedi Council! Ron Howard Takes Over As Han Solo Director, New Or Re-Cut “The Last Jedi” Trailer? And More

  • June 23, 2017 at 5:03 am
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    Kristian looks like he’s about to have a heart attack, lol.

    • June 23, 2017 at 4:48 pm
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      Lol, to be honest – he is extremely fair and even-handed in conveying the news, whereas some other sites have taken it for granted that Lucasfilm’s “assertions” about what really happened are the truth.

      • June 23, 2017 at 4:58 pm
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        Lucasfilm didn’t really make any assertions. We have some rumors. That’s it, for the most part

        • June 23, 2017 at 6:16 pm
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          Hence the inverted commas.

          • June 23, 2017 at 7:25 pm
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            My computer shows all commas as normal commas. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

  • June 23, 2017 at 5:13 am
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    Disney might want to have a new TLJ trailer ready to premiere sooner than later to help keep fans’ minds off the Solo mess as a form of ‘damage control’.

    • June 23, 2017 at 6:38 am
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      Well they probably won’t have much Han Solo footage to show at D23 anymore, so it might be a good time for the TLJ trailer, lol.

    • June 23, 2017 at 7:10 am
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      Fat chance if it’s just a recap of the last teaser which wasn’t exactly raved about.

  • June 23, 2017 at 7:09 am
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    Never thought he would be such a polarizing choice among fans. Yeah, He’s made some shitty films of late but still has a better track record than all of the other SW directors combined.

    • June 23, 2017 at 5:05 pm
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      And its just funny to see how they roll with the story. I love the Jedi Council crew, but Krstian was all about gossiping on this topic a little too hard for my personal taste. If you watch them talking about other films in general on Movie Talk, he’d never be so talkative and wildly opinionated. Normally him or the other members would say that it’s good they’ve gotten a director to get on the project so quickly, and clearly the production teams attached to a director’s previous work cannot be compared to that on their current project… especially when it comes to that of Star Wars where they’d have plenty of qualified and successful brains to pick. Perri and Mark were the most normal and level headed when it came to the discussion with Riley right behind them. But for me, it felt like Harloff was pulling a nightly news channel move where some random shakeup event happens and the anchors riff on it for waaaay to long making it out to be so critically important and you can smell that miles away. Long story short I guess for me is just that its funny how Harloff was milking this story for all its worth and then adding speculation that was not even hinted at or included in the provided stories. I find myself getting annoyed with him every now and then because if you watch any of Collider’s other programs the show host’s job is to facilitate the discussion and create a rapport between all of the people on the table. But when it comes to a story on Jedi Council that he thinks is really important and wants to shine in, he’ll just have Mark read off the stories and then monologue on it for ten minutes before tossing it to someone else and then he’ll interrupt them. We know you’re a fanboy like the rest of us, but so is everyone else on the Council… share the wealth brotha. And stop being so contradictory. When it came to the goings on of Rogue One, I didn’t see a one hour Jedi Council episode where he was talking about how insane it was that a new director had to come on for the re-shoots.

      Either way, I’m more interested in this film now just to see how the experiment pays off. Howard isn’t coming on to make a Ron Howard film. He’s coming on as a director to complete the job. I’m a musician and songwriter and I view it almost akin to when one of my friend’s band’s are looking for help or fresh ideas to finish a song. I’ll jump in and record a version of it myself. Yeah what I throw in may sound a little like what I do in my own music… but at the end of the day I’m coming on to help unify an idea that’s already been fleshed out for the most part so there isn’t any worry that its going to turn into some completely different song.

      • June 23, 2017 at 7:39 pm
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        “When it came to the goings on of Rogue One, I didn’t see a one hour Jedi Council episode where he was talking about how insane it was that a new director had to come on for the re-shoots.”
        But they explain in this episode itself, why this situation is almost unprecendented, and different from Rogue One ( because Gareth Edwards was forced to play ball* ).

        *My own speculation – emphasis on SPECULATION – is that he was strong-armed by this mighty corporate machine to the point where he knew it was just best to go along with them to save face.

        He had obviously filmed from a script which was signed off by KK & co. and yet they pulled the project from under him to give to another director ( Gilroy ) for massive story restructuring. Any artist-for-hire knows how embarassing and humiliating this can be.
        Gareth Edwards ( probably like Lord & Miller ) may have been like: “Why didn’t you tell me this before??”

        • June 23, 2017 at 7:52 pm
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          You’re totally right. It’s not that I didn’t understand the issue as soon as SWNN broke the story. It’s that in this episode he’s presenting that issue with Gareth as being the first and now this being the second as if they’re both big issues when in reality what happened with Gareth really wasn’t that big a deal. I may be wrong, but I don’t think it’s too unusual to have another director join a project in post production to re-tool parts of it and in R1’s case Gilroy was helping smooth out the third act with Gareth more as partners. But from what you’re saying I might be forgetting how that happened in R1. Did Gilroy actually end up changing a lot more of the film? The only thing I’m fairly certain of was that Gareth wasn’t really pushed to the side as much as he was still included as a voice of authority.

          Honestly I think Han Solo was just a bad idea. And we can’t even compare it to R1. At least with R1 it was not so much a new film because all Gareth had to do was study ANH since a lot of the visual feel, political climate, and other elements where all there. Although R1 was the first standalone movie we got, I feel Han Solo is the REAL first standalone film. It truly stands alone outside of all of the stories we’ve had on the big screen. It has to be an original story that deals with completely new things we’ve never really seen as well as a world we’ve never really gotten to explore (smuggler side of things). And while I can see how it was a cool concept to explore, it’s also incredibly challenging. Considering I’ve never been too keen on Colin working on IX since his announcement, I think Lucasfilm should have thrown him on Han Solo or swapped Han Solo for a different standalone which Colin could do and then give us a director on par with Rian to follow up The Last Jedi (of course this is assuming Rian does what we all think he will and knock it out of the park providing us with possibly one of the best Star Wars films ever)

          • June 23, 2017 at 8:10 pm
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            My understanding ( and obviously I will be corrected if I am wrong ) is that after most of principal photography was complete, KK & co. were unhappy with what had been shot ( for R1 ), citing story issues ( issues that surely MUST have been there at the script stage, which is not Gareth Edwards’ fault ).

            So, utilising the inbuilt reshoot schedule ( which is not unusual or out of the ordinary at all, as is part of the natural process of tweaking and refining these giant blockbusters ), they hired another director in Gilroy to take over the project.

            This IS highly unusual in my opinion, and ( again imo ) shows a entire lack of faith in the principal director of Edwards.

            My GUESS is that a disheartened Gareth Edwards was allowed to stay on and partake in public events/promotion of the movie/take full credit in exchange for Lucasfilm downplaying all the reshoot stuff in all their public speaking events and promotions.

            Now, it may well BE, that the first material from R1 was sub-par, but again I blame the higher-ups – is no one checking the dialies? Checking the script? etc.

            I would apply this to the Han Solo movie:

            Lord & Miller would have filmed MULTIPLE takes for each of the scenes – many may have been improvised ( if rumours are to be believed ), but much must have been on-script otherwise how could they have got away with it over the the course of many weeks of shooting without anyone flagging it up*

            *Okay, so the SWNN article from the other day suggested Alden Ehrenreich snitched, but then why didn’t the higher-ups step in sooner?

            Some reports suggest that Lord & Miller were fired because they would rather have overseen any reshoots themeselves rather than have their work handed off to someone new entirely, and who can honestly blame them.

            Lord & Miller may have been like: “Okay, okay, I get you guys aren’t happy with what we shot over these past few months, even though we’ve tried to work it through – but can’t we be in charge of correcting things for the reshoots rather than you ( KK ) bringing in some random guy who we don’t even know, to rework this project? That’s just plain insulting.”

            Next thing they know, their keycards don’t work when they try to enter the building.

    • June 25, 2017 at 1:32 am
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      jj abrams directed, force awakens, star trek, star trek into darkness super 8….Rian johnson directed brick, brothers bloom and looper, i mean not to mention the three directors that made episode 4,5,6 alone

  • June 23, 2017 at 9:20 am
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    Lucasfilm appears to be unnecessarily costing Disney a lot of money with unfinished screenplays and poor oversight. Wonder if they’ll ‘request’ a change of management.

    • June 23, 2017 at 11:01 am
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      Yeah. They have got the most fruitful producer in Hollywood on it, but THAT WOMAN needs to be kicked out from LFL. She clearly don’t know what she’s doing looking at the result of the new games, novels, comics, movies, tv series. Clearly an easy job that she’s making so damn complicated to everyone (from Lucasfilm to Disney)……………….

      …………

      You should pay some respect to Kathleen Kennedy you whiners.

    • June 23, 2017 at 8:25 pm
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      unfinished screenplays?

  • June 23, 2017 at 4:45 pm
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    Interesting that Reilly takes Lucasfilm’s side, even though they’ve now gone down the same route TWICE.

    First time, they HAD a finished script ( for Rogue One ) to work from, and yet late in the day – after most of the filming was done – KK decides “it’s not working” and orders reshoots to overhaul as much as over half of the movie, under an entirely different director ( which must have been gutting and humiliating for Gareth Edwards ).

    KK obviously wanted to pull the same stunt here – but THIS time, the excuse being touted is that the directors were going “OFF-script”. Even so, I 100 percent agree if Lord & Miller balked at KK deciding that the project should be given over to another director.

    Either way, KK and the Lucasfilm bods did not step in early enough to fix things, which seems like a huge waste of resources, money, and talent.

    Heads need to roll at Lucasfilm including the ghastly “Story Group” ( why on earth these legends-in-their-own-lunchtime should stifle the creativity of potential filmmakers or directors, I do not know – they should just limit their influence to the marketing of novels and comics ).

    • June 23, 2017 at 8:24 pm
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      That’s part of the process of making a movie. Sorry that this is new to you, but a script can be great and still filmed wrongly.

      “( why on earth these legends-in-their-own-lunchtime should stifle the creativity of potential filmmakers or directors, I do not know – they should just limit their influence to the marketing of novels and comics ).”

      You really should educate yourself on the process before you make more ignorant comments like that.

      Since none of us know exactly what went on, I prefer to not give solutions since I don’t know what the problem was. But that’s just me.

  • June 23, 2017 at 7:52 pm
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    Just some sobering thoughts for us all:
    This isn’t a one-and-done movie in which an edgy screenwriter finds a cool directing duo and they hope to make some money getting their film produced. It’s fun to think of the spinoffs that way, but this a 100% top-down corporate film that needs to perform and needs to grow the brand.
    Disney/Lucasfilm is literally playing with billions of dollars here. There are millions of yet-to-be-sold t-shirts, toys, and DVDs in the queue. There is a multi-billion dollar theme park waiting. Contracts have been written for potential sequels. There are Disney investors who are counting on earnings-per-share.

    Lucasfilm has a vision for the Solo film. It’s probably more cautious and conservative than we would like, but that’s how it works. And when they get a cool directing duo that gets too creative, and later won’t play ball (despite all that’s at stake), they have to go. There are excuses on both sides. CYA is everywhere.

  • June 24, 2017 at 2:41 am
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    OMG people are taking sides this is hilarious.

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