Star Wars Rebels: “Twilight of the Apprentice”, What Did You Think?

rebelsThe last episode of Star Wars Rebels aired today. Tell us what you thought about the episode in the comments section and check out StarWars.com’s new video Rebels Recon #2.20: Inside “Twilight of the Apprentice” …

 

 

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208 thoughts on “Star Wars Rebels: “Twilight of the Apprentice”, What Did You Think?

  • March 31, 2016 at 10:04 am
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    Pure amazement. I can’t believe all the stuff that went down in this episode. So many things to ponder about where Season 3 will go, very satisfying overall. Especially with the added little tid-bits in the rebels recon that hint at even more legends content getting put back into canon.

    • March 31, 2016 at 3:03 pm
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      That was what I loved the most…I picked up on so many EU elements that I was going nuts! They will make a lot of fans happy if they begin incorporating more legends (EU) material!

      • April 2, 2016 at 10:55 am
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        the first big piece of which is who the heck is going to pop out of that sith holocron?

  • March 31, 2016 at 10:10 am
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    This was a passion-filled episode that was obviously planned for and carefully carried out. For a Star Wars Cartoon finale, I really don’t know what more you could have asked for. There are now tons of questions, and the Star Wars universe and lore continues to grow and intrigue.

  • March 31, 2016 at 10:35 am
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    That ending, daaaaaaamn, finally the show is starting to get serious, it got me hyped for the next season.

    • April 1, 2016 at 8:49 am
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      Hopefully it won’t be like TCW. When that series got dark (AKA good) viewership went down a lot.

  • March 31, 2016 at 10:53 am
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    im sure i saw revans mask on a body as ezra picked up the fross blade

  • March 31, 2016 at 11:03 am
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    I have a good feeling about this!

  • March 31, 2016 at 11:10 am
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    I’m confused..so did Vader let Ahsoka live? And I’m assuming her walking inside that cave thing at the end was a self imposed exile similar to Yoda? AHHH SO MANY QUESTIONS!!!

    • March 31, 2016 at 11:31 am
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      Did you miss that huge explosion in the temple when they were inside? They’re both lucky to be alive and that’s it anything less is pure speculation.

      • April 1, 2016 at 3:03 am
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        Yea, I guess at that point they both just wanted to get the Fk out of there lol..hopefully Vader comes back to finish her off though, I can’t see them killing her off any other way.

    • March 31, 2016 at 2:56 pm
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      that was my biggest problem with the episode…vader should have killed her off!

  • March 31, 2016 at 11:13 am
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    Goood… now time for some filler episodes

  • March 31, 2016 at 11:25 am
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    Excellent episode, very dramatic, I loved the closing minute or so showing all of the characters in their respective situation. Although leaving Ahsoka alive was kind of a cop out to ending her character.

    I guess that means we could potentially see more of her character in the future though until the story group finally figures out what they want to do with her character.

  • March 31, 2016 at 12:54 pm
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    Damn…I never thought Rebels could get any darker…

  • March 31, 2016 at 12:55 pm
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    I think they leaved Ashoka alive because they have already planned her participations in same future projects. Either new TV Show – perhaps Luke Academy. Or maybe some new game.

    Either way it was not Rebels place to kill her off.

    • March 31, 2016 at 2:15 pm
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      You don’t think she could have helped, like at all? She just became a coward and stood by while a genocidal mad man blew up a planet and killed millions of people. Yeah bc that’s totally so much better than her dying trying to redeem the person she cared about the most.

      • March 31, 2016 at 3:01 pm
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        Luke did the same thing in TFA, and Yoda was stuck on Dagobah during ep. 4 while Alderaan was blown up. It’s the jedi way not to get emotionally involved but granted she’s no longer a jedi.

      • April 1, 2016 at 2:47 pm
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        Perhaps she was still stranded at that time–if she cannot leave the planet she cannot help.

  • March 31, 2016 at 12:55 pm
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    GODDAMNIT just kill Maul already

    • March 31, 2016 at 1:54 pm
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      Yep. REALLY had him pegged to go. Does that mean there’ll still be a Vader / Maul showdown somewhere down the line?

      • March 31, 2016 at 3:07 pm
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        I hope so. I know Palps will be none too happy that he escaped, seeing as there was an Inquisitor there specifically to hunt him down.

        • March 31, 2016 at 3:23 pm
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          So did that noob Inquisitor w/ the damaged heli-saber die from his (seeming) crash & burn off the Sith pyramid? Never can tell w/ Force folks when it comes to surviving falls from great heights…

          • March 31, 2016 at 4:08 pm
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            yeah, he’s dead. from starwars.com:

            “Nimble and menacing, the Eighth Brother was a deadly Terrelian Jango Jumper Inquisitor. Dispatched by Darth Vader, he was sent to Malachor to attempt to find and capture Maul, and instead found himself face to face with Ezra Bridger, Kanan Jarrus, and Ahsoka Tano. The Eighth Brother often used his double-bladed, spinning lightsaber to propel himself through the air, making for sneak attacks and quick escapes. This method proved unwise, however, when he jumped off the edge of the Malachor Sith Temple with his damaged lightsaber, and fell to his death.”

          • March 31, 2016 at 8:17 pm
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            okay

          • March 31, 2016 at 4:15 pm
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            I am pretty sure implication is that he is dead. The bigger mystery is what happens to Ahsoka now…

          • April 2, 2016 at 8:04 am
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            starwars.com says that he died.

  • March 31, 2016 at 1:33 pm
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    I just want to say that this was the best episode of Rebels I’ve seen yet. This meeting between Vader and Ahsoka was worth the hype. Not too much, not too little, just enough to get you emotionally involved.

    Vader’s reaction to Ahsoka’s statement to the effect of “I won’t leave you, not this time” or something like that… you can see the conflict in Vader’s eyes. Oh should I say Anakin’s eyes…

    The broken mask is symbolic. In Sub-Saharan African tribal symbolism, a mask can symbolizes shame, hypocrisy, discontent and jealousy… all traits that made Anakin emotionally weak as a Jedi, but fed his strength in the dark side as a Sith Lord. A broken mask can be an indication of treason… could be a bit of foreshadowing future events there… other cultures and societies have their own versions of what masks mean, the Mayans, Venetians, Greeks, Native Americans, Chinese etc. If you study the themes, they are basically similar to each other.

    When you see Anakin’s eyes it just means so much to me, personally. I like how they focused on both of their eyes, but specifically Vader (one eye anyway). Vader’s eye went everywhere, his facial expressions are hidden some what, buy you can feel his conflict! I won’t go any further, just watch it!

    We all know that his animosity towards Ahsoka is twisted, as is his animosity towards the Jedi is period. Ashoka knows he hates her for leaving him and I wonder if her staying to complete the fight was a way to confront her own guilt.

    • March 31, 2016 at 1:51 pm
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      You are right about the eyes shape… it would have been more descriptive if the color would have changed too from yellow to the original.

      • March 31, 2016 at 1:59 pm
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        I like how they kept the Sith eye coloring. But to go further, they use Anakin’s real voice when he speaks at that point… you don’t hear Earl Jone’s classic deep rumbling voice. It’s his own voice. To me, that was more dynamic than changing the eye color. I think Ahsoka recognizing Anakin’s voice was very powerful.

        • March 31, 2016 at 2:07 pm
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          Yes the whole set was nice.
          He also picked not to kill Ezra.
          And it was cool how Maul was feeling his presence coming, because I was feeling it too.

    • March 31, 2016 at 5:30 pm
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      “The Vader that we encounter in Rebels was always meant to be the one devoid of emotions, except for anger, hate and suffering. That he was so trapped inside himself because of the terrible things that happened. Anakin never thinks of himself as betraying his friends. He sees it as his friends betrayed him and the Republic. He has to live on that side of the fence because the truth is just too damming.

      “So he wants to destroy Ahsoka because she represents his past. She represents knowledge of who he was and he wants to wipe that out. His son represents a potential future because his son wouldn’t know who he was. So he could build a new galaxy together with his son. His apprentice is his past and he needs to destroy her.”

      straight from Feloni’s mouth.

  • March 31, 2016 at 1:51 pm
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    DAMN!
    DAMN!
    DAMN!
    DAMN!
    DAMN!
    DAMN!
    DAMN!

    (Did I mention I hate cliffhangers?)

  • March 31, 2016 at 1:52 pm
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    This episode has made me rethink Vadar. I think he is even more of a confused mess than I had thought. He truly is only a shell of his former greatness as Anakin in TCWs and ROTS prior to his fall.

    • March 31, 2016 at 7:05 pm
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      Ya, I know in everyone’s imagination, Vader is in his absolute prime and the baddest of the BADDEST, but imo, that’s not the Vader we’re looking at. I believe he IS indeed a shell of his former greatness, and he’s not in his prime but just fueled by so much evil that he goes around wrecking.

      As I said in a earlier post, I believe Ashoka bested him, as Obi Wan did, but couldn’t kill him off because they still saw Anakin Skywalker and not Vader. The way Kylo Ren is walking around wrecking, with Luke Skywalker hiding in some island because theres still people who believe there is good in him, like Leia, or just see Ben Solo, and not Kylo Ren.

      • April 1, 2016 at 4:23 am
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        I totally agree with you. It is becoming obvious now in Rebels, and looking back I think that it was plainly apparent to us even in esb and rotj decades ago as well that Vadar was a failure in much of what he tried to do from his fall to the dark side in ROTS until he finally redeemed himself in ROTJ. Vadar was never the ultimate badass that I thought he was and paled in comparison to Anakin the Jedi. It’s interesting in ROTS Anakin’s fears he shared with Padme about not becoming the Jedi he should be were then actualized as Darth Vadar.

  • March 31, 2016 at 1:55 pm
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    Cool – So Kanan is now Zatoichi, the Blind Swordsman? (Love to see a modded walking stick / quick-draw Iaido lightsaber…)

    • March 31, 2016 at 1:57 pm
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      In this episode…
      in the future…
      May be a sight prothesis?

      • March 31, 2016 at 5:51 pm
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        Obi-wan: ‘Your eyes can deceive you…’

        Disagree – think he’ll go full Daredevil w/ remaining senses Force-amped!

        • March 31, 2016 at 7:13 pm
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          Ok, ok
          If it is like that he deserves a special appearance in Ep. VIII, even in Rogue I :))

    • March 31, 2016 at 2:04 pm
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      I drew the comparisons to General Rom Kota from TFU to be honest.

      • March 31, 2016 at 2:13 pm
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        Ha! (Who himself is a cribbed Zatoichi, especially when he starts drinking!)

    • March 31, 2016 at 3:10 pm
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      Yup. He even changes his hand grip.

  • March 31, 2016 at 2:22 pm
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    I liked the episode and it had its cool moments but aside from offing some inquisitors, there was nothing at stake. Ezra dabbled with the darkside and before and continues to do it. Everyone including Maul is still alive! I guess he’s going to be the new antagonist for next season bc you can’t diminish Vader. Ahsoka sacrificing herself to try and redeem Anakin would have been such a powerful moment. I get she isn’t a “Jedi” but she has to be gone by the OT bc then it just makes her a coward by not helping the Rebels out anymore. Lots of loose ends still to be tied up. For all the hype that surrounded this episode it couldn’t live up to expectations but I still enjoyed it. 7.5/10

    • April 3, 2016 at 6:38 am
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      If my personal prediction comes true, she’ll be dead before the timeline of the OT. Guess we’ll see…

  • March 31, 2016 at 2:23 pm
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    I wonder how many more Inquisitors are out there? I assume some new ones will be introduced in season 3.

    • March 31, 2016 at 2:34 pm
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      When I watched the episode, I used the captions to make sure I caught every spoken word. Even though its not mentioned in the episode, the captions identified the new Inquisitor as the 8th Brother. So one can assume that there are at at least 8 and probably 16, depending on how their numbering system works.

  • March 31, 2016 at 2:32 pm
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    What an amazing episode! I’m also super excited for the Rebels panel at Celebration now and I can’t wait to see where they go with season 3! From the Recon video, it’s clear that big things are coming and I like how they are starting to shift their focus more to ANH, especially considering Rogue One in December. I could talk all day about this episode but I just thought I’d make a list of just a couple of things I didn’t love about the episode and a few that I really loved about it…

    What didn’t work for me:

    1. No ancient Sith Lord – Okay, so admittedly this is just a failure of the show to live up to my personal hopes and expectations. I thought the episode was great. But considering that he wasn’t able to actually open the holocron until the final few seconds of the episode, I see why they didn’t go there. It may have been too much. Cue the speculation about Revan or Bane for season 3…

    2. Whirly Bird Inquisitors – I thought this element was just a little strange. Maybe it would have been better if it was just used one time for a few seconds. However, the fact that the Inquisitors seemed to use this as their main method of transportation throughout the episode was weird. Why didn’t they do this all season? How does it even work? For me it was kind of like the moment where I first saw R2 fly in the prequels…but nonetheless, I may not have been ready for it, but in the words of Marty McFly, “Your kids are gonna love it.”

    What I loved:

    1. Maul! – I loved his introduction. It was very reminiscent of Luke’s first encounter with Yoda in TESB. They even used similar lines. His progression throughout the episode to reveal his motivation was nice as well. He was also a beast in combat, killing the Inquisitors and maiming Kanan.

    2. Ahsoka V Vader! – One word…epic.

    3. The Blinding of Kanan – This will add a whole new depth to his character and hopefully we will see the Force open up to him even more as the series progresses. Although it was very brief, I thought the scene where Kanan goes all Daredevil on Maul was nice.

    4. Ezra taps into the Darkness – that ending was very ominous. Can’t wait to see what happens.

  • March 31, 2016 at 2:54 pm
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    An episode of Rebels that for the first time, I enjoyed! To begin with, the nod at the EU universe with Ahsoka’s statement about legends in the beginning really pleased me! And just by having an old EU planet with some facts intact was a wonderful treat!

    Vaders entrance was epic and the half helmet moment was brilliant!

    I agree with Hard Case about the whirly bird Inquisitors…I really thought that was kinda lame.

    And as much as I like the episode, Ahsoka should not have escaped alive. It weakens Vader imo.

    Maul…well, I’m certain there’s going to be a connection to him and snoke, of course that’s a personal theory that I’m still working out in my head…lol!

    • March 31, 2016 at 11:42 pm
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      “There’s always some truth in “Legends”.

    • April 1, 2016 at 2:41 pm
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      I don’t thought for sure Ahsoka was going to die–but now that I have thought about it, having her stranded might not be a bad storyline. Right now she is almost as good as dead. She may not get off the planet for years–or ever–and if she ever does will she be changed?

  • March 31, 2016 at 2:56 pm
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    Was Asohka standing there At the end? Or is That someone else?

    • March 31, 2016 at 4:01 pm
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      It was Ahsoka.

      • March 31, 2016 at 4:49 pm
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        I thought that her surviving was kind of dumb. Sacrificing herself to try and redeem Anakin would have been a really powerful moment. Everyone except the inquisitors (which lets be real nobody really saw as a threat) are all alive. This episode may have lasting effects but it doesn’t seem like anything of real consequence happened.

        • March 31, 2016 at 4:54 pm
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          The Clone Wars show was cancelled so they never had a chance to kill her off, so it’s not dumb from that point of view.

  • March 31, 2016 at 3:05 pm
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    Holy Crap Dave Filoni pretty much just confirmed in the Rebels Recon Episode that next season Maul and Vader will showdown.

    I say this because of his end comments. And there’s another video where he said that he and the writers for rebels were originally talking about having Maul battle Vader in this finale but they had other plans for Maul.

    And at least we lmk he’s thinking about it.

  • March 31, 2016 at 3:20 pm
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    One last item….it would have been the best if they would have brought Revan back into canon by having him in the sith holocron and the one speaking to Ezra as everything else on that planet points towards his existence in canon.

    • March 31, 2016 at 3:23 pm
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      I hoped that the cross guard lightsaber ezra finds is Revan’s.

      • March 31, 2016 at 3:51 pm
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        Why would it be Revan’s? Clearly it was dropped by one of the petrified Jedi who fought in the attack on the Sith Temple.

      • March 31, 2016 at 4:28 pm
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        It seems it was a comon desing back in the old days, and now since ezra got is lighsaber smashed maybe he builds a crosshilted one

        • March 31, 2016 at 4:49 pm
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          £5 says he builds a red one….

          • March 31, 2016 at 4:53 pm
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            I don’t think it’s going to be red,just because it would be to much of a teller that he is going dark side. He may change the kyber christal later down the line when he goes full dark side and assumes the persona of supreme leader snoke 😀

          • March 31, 2016 at 4:58 pm
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            Will he have a little adolescent half-beard? 🙂

          • March 31, 2016 at 5:19 pm
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            hoping not….Ezra needs to die soon as the show really doesn’t need him anymore now that we have better characters and stories running. Maybe Maul will use him for something and cut him down. Or better….Vader shows up and wipes him and Maul out at the same time.

          • March 31, 2016 at 7:05 pm
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            Ezra is the character the intended viewing audience is meant to experience the story through. The intended viewing audience being 8-14 years old. In this case, Ezra is very important to the way the story is told.

          • March 31, 2016 at 8:14 pm
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            the story has evolved past him at this point.

          • April 1, 2016 at 2:53 am
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            so it may seem, but he surely has a very important role with more to be revealed.

          • April 1, 2016 at 8:40 am
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            Sadly he’s the main character.

          • April 1, 2016 at 3:07 pm
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            Sadly indeed.

        • March 31, 2016 at 8:44 pm
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          Yeah, I figured. That would mean that at the time Revan could have had a such lightsaber. But I believe Ezra might get a red lightsaber

      • March 31, 2016 at 5:21 pm
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        just hoping that Revan finds his way into a current story line. I liked the original rumors that Luke was guarding a sith grave, how awesome if it would have been Revans!

    • April 1, 2016 at 8:39 am
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      I’m sure we’ll get Revan in the Season 3 finale after slogging through 21 episodes of slapstick filler.

  • March 31, 2016 at 3:22 pm
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    Just…wow! I already loved this series, but this episode made certainly escalate it much higher than a kids show wich it seemed in various episodes. Kanan just became more like Kota, wich is something I love, Maul came back and will certainly keep on doing his schemes for some time, Vader under the mask, Ezra starting a journey to the dark side…. that’s just really epic! The ending was very cinematic and well done too!

    • March 31, 2016 at 4:02 pm
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      I don’t know that she actually died. I don’t know why she would have been a force ghost at the end. I speculate that it was actually her physical body we see at the end after the explosion.

      • March 31, 2016 at 4:16 pm
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        Completely agree. She didn’t die.

  • March 31, 2016 at 3:50 pm
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    Best episode of the season for me, and I found the last few minutes genuinely cinematic.

    My only issue is that we should not have to wait until the last episode for some truly plot forwarding stuff. I felt that a lot of this could’ve been dealt with earlier….at least by the mid season break. I would like to see a more structured and impactful arc next season. That said, I think the quality of the show has improved immensely since the first season.

    Oh, and I reckon that’s Asokha’s force ghost at the end…..

    • March 31, 2016 at 4:17 pm
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      Filoni mentioned in the Recon that the episodes everyone has been calling fillers (pretty much pointed at many in this thread) will be surprisingly important as we get later in the show.

      Ahsoka didn’t die. Watch it again.

      • March 31, 2016 at 4:48 pm
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        Does this mean the space whales will go to Tatooine and tell Obi-Wan it’s time to find Luke???

        I think so!!!! 😉

      • March 31, 2016 at 5:04 pm
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        I know we don’t see her die, but unless they were separated by the blast I can’t see Vader letting her live….and there’s no reason that can’t be a force ghost at the end.

    • April 1, 2016 at 8:36 am
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      Force Ghosts are blue and floaty.

  • March 31, 2016 at 4:09 pm
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    Holly shit,this episode was better than most movies,I swear,I cried soooo much,especially when Chopper lead blind Kanan. If Disney doesn’t acknowledge Rebels as canon in future movies,I will be so mad,and give Dave Filoni to direct STAR WARS Movie,that man is amazing!!!

    • March 31, 2016 at 5:13 pm
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      ok with some canon from this show…but for the most part, Filoni has created more issues with his ideas and adding them in than he has done good.

      • March 31, 2016 at 5:49 pm
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        Completely disagree, he learned straight from Lucas.

        • March 31, 2016 at 8:15 pm
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          he always had an issue with Lucas and has been waiting to do things his way since Georges departure. Lucas had to keep him on a chain when they were working on TCW. Unchained….blahhhh

          • April 1, 2016 at 8:35 am
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            Are you for real? Lucas was the one who up and decided that Anakin suddenly had an apprentice despite not even being e Jedi Master. He is the one who has no respect for continuity.

          • April 1, 2016 at 3:06 pm
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            Lucas caused some issues….but Filoni unchecked…..equals Rebels. Enough said.

  • March 31, 2016 at 4:10 pm
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    Link please? Can’t wait until the weekend here in the UK!!

    • March 31, 2016 at 5:19 pm
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      kisscartoon.me

      • March 31, 2016 at 7:45 pm
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        Ta m8! great link too.. might have to watch the lot!

  • March 31, 2016 at 4:25 pm
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    Now i was thinking. Could be that sith temple weapon Mass Shadow Generator ?

    • March 31, 2016 at 5:07 pm
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      Interesting idea.

    • April 1, 2016 at 8:34 am
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      It certainly looks like it is. And that female voice could be the canon voice of Traya.

  • March 31, 2016 at 4:43 pm
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    Goddamn it, if anything that finale just got me super hyped to see Vader in Rogue One!

  • March 31, 2016 at 4:58 pm
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    Was the voice of the temple Asajj Ventress?

    • March 31, 2016 at 5:01 pm
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      It was the actress, but not the character according to Filoni.

      • March 31, 2016 at 5:05 pm
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        Whoa. Confusing

        • March 31, 2016 at 5:07 pm
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          He says it’s the voice of an ancient Sith Lord/Lady.

          • April 1, 2016 at 8:33 am
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            TRAYA!!!!!

        • March 31, 2016 at 5:37 pm
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          Very confusing as she has a very unique voice and I haven’t seen a whole lot of range from the actress. It’s cool they got her voice but that does make things a bit on the confusing side.

          I know Mark Hamill did the voice of Darth Bane, but he didn’t sound like Luke Skywalker when he did it. Some actors have the range and others don’t.

          • March 31, 2016 at 5:45 pm
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            That & Ventress (in canon) is a goner now too…and her body’s on Dathomir, courtesy of one Quinlan Vos

  • March 31, 2016 at 5:01 pm
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    My theory: Rex is going to the dark side, you can see his pain at the end after not seeing ahsoka. And when his pain turns to anger you will see him wielding a red crosshilted lightsaber and force choking some spiders

    • March 31, 2016 at 5:02 pm
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      Filoni says the Rex is an old guy you see on Endor in ROTJ so the answer to that seems to be no.

      • March 31, 2016 at 5:05 pm
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        Yeah i saw that too. I was just throwing some crazy ideas at the wall to see if it sticks xD

        • March 31, 2016 at 5:06 pm
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          Chopper turns to the Dark Side!

  • March 31, 2016 at 5:10 pm
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    Anybody have a download link? I haven’t been able to see it yet.

    • March 31, 2016 at 5:18 pm
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      Kisscartoon.me

  • March 31, 2016 at 5:48 pm
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    Glad they didn’t kill anyone off , though ahsoka is up in the air , felt like it would have been too early and they would lose potential good story lines, did anyone else notice at the end Ezra opens the sith holocron , didnt maul say only a sith can open it or am I missing something?

    • March 31, 2016 at 6:53 pm
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      That’s the big cliffhanger in the season. Ezra looking shocked as he opens the holocron in the closing shots, and considering what Maul said, it serves as a huge tease for Season 3

      • March 31, 2016 at 10:11 pm
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        I liked that his eyes transitioned from red to purple to his normal blue. I think the show could have gone further. They really need to push it with some twists and turns. They spoiled Maul coming, so would have been cool at the end if Ezra left with Maul or something.

    • March 31, 2016 at 7:12 pm
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      Only a Sith, or someone who thinks like one.

    • March 31, 2016 at 8:07 pm
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      I think when he let his emotions over the whole ordeal rise to the surface, especially concerning Kanan’s blinding and Ahsoka’s presumed death, he was able to open the holocron. Letting your emotions take control is the very essence of how the Sith operate. Using the powers available through the (as Palpatine would put it) narrow minded and dogmatic view of the Force that the Jedi hold would not be sufficient to open the Sith holocron. Therefore in theory, a Jedi would be unable to open it. But when Ezra embraces emotion, he harnesses the power to open the Sith holocron. Just my take.

    • April 1, 2016 at 12:12 am
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      “they didn’t kill anyone off”
      THEY KILLED OFF ALL THREE INQUISITOR’S!

    • April 1, 2016 at 8:32 am
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      Someone who is a Sith, *or thinks like one*.

  • March 31, 2016 at 5:55 pm
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    While not as good or as well written as Seige of Lothal, it was one of the better episodes this season. Maul, as is the case with most of the supporting characters and expanding cast, was much better written/drawn than the original Ghost crew. The Vader/Ahsoka reunion, though a little too quick, was still great… especially when we saw Anakin under the Vader mask.
    IMO, the episode was way too Force/Jedi/Sith heavy. At times, on this show it feels like the Jedi/Sith are more active now than they were during the prequels/Clone Wars and I think that’s the opposite of the way it feels at the end of ROTS and beginning of ANH. Since this show is canon, it’s a shame for it to destroy that feeling from the movies. But at least they killed of two – possible three? – of the inquisitors. I say three because we didn’t see his body and everyone else who fell survived. Speaking of falling, how did Ahsoka, Ezra, and Kanan survive the fall into the Sith Temple without using the Force to break their fall?? It’s times like that that I’m reminded this is just a cartoon – and that’s also a shame.

    I’m glad they didn’t show the face of the new Inquisitor – I like him/her better as a faceless threat and didn’t need to see their face… UNLESS it turns out to be someone like Barris Offee (who I’m expecting to show up on the show at some point to continue her storyline with Ahsoka that was left open by the cancellation of Clone Wars). Maybe Ahsoka and Barris will meet up in the ruins of the Sith Temple?

    Going forward, I really would like to see the Jedi stuff scaled back. We need less Jedi/Inquisitors running around, not more. The episode made constant reference to the Rule of Two, and then would cut back THREE dark-siders/Sith attacking our heroes. BUT I’d really like to see more Vader, if not an episode or two from the Empire’s perspective. General Veers, Piett, ground assaults… all ripe for exploration. I’d like to see less of the bumbling Empire so far seen and more of the dangerous, scary Empire we saw in Empire Strikes Back.

    I’d also like to see Rex training Rebel soldiers and more movement toward an end game (formation of Rebel Alliance??).

    Watching the episode, I’m glad they didn’t actually kill Kanan (yet) as I originally wanted, but the group still suffered greatly by Kanan losing his sight (permanently I hope or else it’s meaningless). That is actually a great development for his character and puts even more weight on Ezra’s shoulders.

    • March 31, 2016 at 6:08 pm
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      Well Star Wars are about Jedi and Sith. And most episode which wasn’t about them are here called filler here. And evan i agree that many of them are fillerish.

      So yeah scaling down Jedi/Sith. That truly horrible idea.

      • March 31, 2016 at 10:05 pm
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        Um… no Star Wars is NOT all about the Jedi and Sith. That’s debatable, at best. And isn’t Ezra, Kanan, Vader, the Emperor and now Maul enough for you without something like 16 inquisitors!

        • March 31, 2016 at 10:39 pm
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          Force users are one element which make Star Wars stand out from long line of other sci-fi shows and movies.

          So yes they most interesting part of that universe.

          And yes there are some interesting non force-users character.

          But they are just same as hundreds of other non-force users from other shows and movies.
          Personally i love Star Wars for Force. Without it there could be good stories but never amazing stories. At least for me.

          • April 1, 2016 at 1:01 am
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            I and many, many others disagree with you. I too love Jedi/Sith, but like I said not for this era so much.

            I guess you’ll be skipping Rogue One then?

          • April 1, 2016 at 1:19 am
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            I just love when someone use their invisible army which agree with them on everything.

            And i don’t skip it. But Rouge one is not exactly my taste that for sure. New Han Solo movie is one which i probably skip.

            And yeah taking out most interesting element (jedi/sith) is truly ingenious idea. Numbers of people who watched that show would probably drop like rock.

          • April 1, 2016 at 5:00 am
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            Invisible army? What are you taking about dude? And you just proved my point… You are biased which makes your original statement about Star Wars stories about non force users not “amazing”. You don’t like those kinds of stories so no matter how awesome they are you won’t even give them a chance. I’m glad they don’t make this show just for you.

    • March 31, 2016 at 6:18 pm
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      The Rule of Two applies to Sith Lords not any dark side user.

      • March 31, 2016 at 10:04 pm
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        Most people don’t know the difference and associate the dark-siders, inquisitors with the Sith. They sure have made a mess of it with all these dark siders running around. I would be cool in any other time line.

        • March 31, 2016 at 10:19 pm
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          This is true. How it was even asked as a question on Rebel’s recon this week shows that confusion. But they can’t spoon feed all the facts in 22 minutes.They’be been hitting it hard a few times Ahsoka is not a Jedi anymore though.

          • March 31, 2016 at 10:35 pm
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            I didn’t say they didn’t nail that with Ahsoka, I said the problem was with the Sith vs. Inquisitors. If they really wanted to clear it up they should just have Palpatine decide it was time to end the rule of 2 and build an army of Sith or something, and then Ezra and Kanan have to stop that. But it would have to be super secret so the galaxy at large would still think it was a big deal when they learn about Luke Skywalker.

            Surly, everyone must understand that if Ezra, Kanan and Ahsoka were still around Bail Organa would have gone to them instead or at least in addition to Obi-wan??

            But to address you’re mentioning of Ahsoka, they handled that well partly because there’s just one of Ahsoka and they mention it often on the show. But mainly because they had a whole arc devoted to her leaving the Jedi order in TCW.

          • March 31, 2016 at 11:42 pm
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            Sorry, I guess my comment wasn’t clear. I was just saying they were taking the time to address Ahsoka unlike Sith vs Dark Side users. Some additional dialog here and there would help just like the Ahsoka dialog.

          • April 1, 2016 at 4:58 am
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            I agree. They have made references to it but it doesn’t seems to stick

    • March 31, 2016 at 10:12 pm
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      I don’t understand how anything Star Wars could be too Jedi/Sith heavy. The episodes that don’t include them just aren’t as interesting to me.

      • March 31, 2016 at 10:17 pm
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        I didn’t say Star Wars could be… I said Rebels, specifically. And what I mean is that it conflicts with the rules/universe established by the end of episode 3 and the beginning of a new hope.

        And the reason the non Force-user episodes aren’t interesting to you… well that may have more to do with the writing/direction of the show than not having Force users. it’s sad that this show would need a few flashy light saber battles to maintain interest.

        Personally, I would like to see more story lines akin to what Rogue One sounds to be about.

  • March 31, 2016 at 6:49 pm
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    I believe Ashoka got the best of Vader in their duel and decided not to kill him, because she couldn’t bring herself to, so she goes into exile which would end her story in Rebels and start to make some sense of her existence entering the Rouge One period as we move closer and closer to A New Hope.

    • March 31, 2016 at 7:32 pm
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      Ahsoka didn’t get his best, however she held her own. I’m of the opinion that out of all of the people in the galaxy aside from Luke, she is the only person he would be willing to show mercy to once which I believe happened and even then it was because his helm was damaged. I think it’s a scenario of if he ever sees her again he will finish her. As for kanan’s blindness, I don’t think it’s the end of his arc. I think this was the catalyst to get him to being a real master of the force. Remember from AotC Younglings are trained to hone their force senses with a blast shield covering their eyes while they deflect blaster bolts. Even Obi-Wan used this method as Luke’s first light saber training as seen in ANH. I’m of the opinion that Kanan is going to clearly become stronger with his force senses which in turn will probably make it easier for him to notice the dark side growing within Ezra as he will be more attuned to his senses.

    • March 31, 2016 at 10:10 pm
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      Seriously, you think the show is done with Ahsoka just like that… with a vague shot of her going into a temple (which I didn’t even catch) … after bringing her back just this year? She’s one of the most popular animated characters, so… no. Rebels is not done with her. Although with her not technically being a Jedi they may try to keep her around by the time of A New Hope, which would be a mistake. Honestly, if the Rebel Alliance had her skillset she would have been used and Luke wouldn’t have had to handle things on his own.

      • April 1, 2016 at 12:34 pm
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        It’s my thought or opinion, not blasphemy lol. I just wouldn’t be mad at all if that’s how Ahsoka’s story ended in the REBELS series. I wouldn’t be mad at her surviving and going into exile. The hard question to answer in all these newly canon stuff is why Yoda and Obi Wan, one who nearly defeated the emperor and the other who defeated a prime Darth Vader, didn’t join the Rebellion and destroy abunch of inquisitors and Darth Vader, aiding the rebellion against the Empire in all that time.. We know the answer is… “cause story” but that just adds to my point. Ahsoka could also be added to that tight knit circle of people who cared about Anakin, and just couldn’t kill him when he was at his darkest moments, I just believe it isn’t shown, but Ahsoka actually got the best of vader and I don’t think it weakens the character (Unless fans want godmode) but just adds more depth and a different element to the whole thing.

        Yoda even lost faith in Ezra almost right away.. “How Jedi choose to win” Ezra said they’re fighting. Yoda probably lost hope in THAT moment. These guys are going to fight… and tackle the situation head strong, notice they lie to Luke and try to fuel his passion…. It was a totally different approach. Obi Wan and Yoda kept Luke in the dark(As we know it now) to rally Luke. They were lying to him, he was the only hope left, to do it the JEDI way. it all makes sense to me imo… It just takes alot of thinking lol

    • April 1, 2016 at 5:11 pm
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      That blast from the temple probably threw Vader and Ahsoka apart, ending the duel. She went into the temple for whatever reason, and he left to chase the Rebels. I heard a great theory that all of these characters die on Alderaan at the beginning of ANH, but the Galaxy is a big place, they could be anywhere.

  • March 31, 2016 at 7:11 pm
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    loved the episode. what happened to ahsoka?? the fact that maul survived REALLY gives me hope there will be an obi-wan anthology film with a final confrontation between those two. PLEASE let it happen.

    • March 31, 2016 at 7:35 pm
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      Some people say she is now a force ghost , some say she is now going to be like Obiwan and be a hermit in hiding , I think she could now be possessed by the spirit of the S
      ith temple.

      • March 31, 2016 at 7:58 pm
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        She can’t be a force ghost. Remember how they look. Pale blue with faded hints of their color in life. Ahsoka didn’t look pale blue at all, she looked the same to me

        • March 31, 2016 at 10:06 pm
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          Plus she didn’t get the secret-squirrel Qui-gon training (that we know of) like Obi-wan & Yoda did, to allow them to manifest as Force ghosts…

          • April 1, 2016 at 12:20 am
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            wait did you forget the older Ashoka on mortis she could be a full body force ghost

          • April 1, 2016 at 8:29 am
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            That was a vision, not a Force Ghost.

    • March 31, 2016 at 10:07 pm
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      Why a film? Why not just do it on the show. I’m SO NOT a fan of starting something in one area and then finishing it in another medium. It’s not financial practical either.

      • April 1, 2016 at 3:11 am
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        you just contradicted yourself completely. i said i want a final showdown between obi-wan kenobi and darth maul- their initial confrontation/conflict started on FILM. and i’m suggesting it ends with a FILM. i wouldn’t be anywhere near satisfied if they did it on the tv show… i don’t understand what point you’re trying to make.

        • April 1, 2016 at 4:55 am
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          He died in the film. Show brought him back and he should be contained to the show. Too confusing for movie audiences. Contrary to your belief Star Wars wasn’t made just for you! Lol

          • April 1, 2016 at 7:29 am
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            you’d be surprised how many fans support the idea.. if you aren’t aware of that, then i suggest you do some more research. it’s been all over news headlines this past week that darth maul is back on rebels, and i’m sure the exact same thing happened when he was brought back for clone wars. i understand your point, but i’m saying now that they’ve brought him back in multiple mediums, they should give a proper finale to him.

          • April 1, 2016 at 4:59 pm
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            Big difference between some fans and mass audiences. I believe the proper finale is the Rebels show, rather than cop out and put it in a movie. And it looks like Dave and Co. agree.

  • March 31, 2016 at 7:54 pm
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    So Ezra showed dark powers just at the end as well. Can they truly continue with a blind Kanan? Will Ezra be turned off by his masters new weakness and eventually kill him, as most sith lords do? Is Ashoka dead? So much to be talked about. Great Episode. Was rooting for Maul until…..yea until that WTF moment. Great episode

    • March 31, 2016 at 8:08 pm
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      Ashoka is still alive from what I understand.

      • April 1, 2016 at 9:52 pm
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        I could have sworn the last shot of Ashoka was her falling to her knees in defeat/death……

        • April 5, 2016 at 6:32 am
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          Descending back into the Temple according to starwars.com.

    • March 31, 2016 at 8:10 pm
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      She’s alive, but I don’t know what that shot of her entering the temple means…

    • April 1, 2016 at 4:25 am
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      Feels like they’ll sort of be pulling a Rahm Kota with this.

    • April 3, 2016 at 6:25 am
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      I think she’s alive. I also think Vader will kill her in Rogue One. I’ll be the first to admit it if I’m wrong though…

      • April 3, 2016 at 9:58 pm
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        I don’t think Ahsoka will be in Rogue One. I think she’ll die in Rebls Season 3, which will spark some event in Catalyst or Rogue One.

    • March 31, 2016 at 8:17 pm
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      I’m not going to the point out the obvious reason that Donnie Yen won’t be Kanan Jarrus in the movie. But I will say I don’t seen any reason to assume there can’t be more than one blind Rebel warrior running around the galaxy.

      • March 31, 2016 at 8:27 pm
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        Because he’s asian, I know… But I see so many reasons the Rebels wouldn’t send a blind dude in their most important mission… Unless R1 is a comedy.

        • March 31, 2016 at 8:36 pm
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          I dont see any scars that would clearly be left from a lightsaber being smashed into his face. This is beyond a stretch.

        • March 31, 2016 at 9:00 pm
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          well blind doesn’t mean useless

        • April 1, 2016 at 8:27 am
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          Maybe he’d Daredevil – the Jedi.

    • April 1, 2016 at 8:27 am
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      Kanan isn’t Asian. Sry.

  • March 31, 2016 at 8:22 pm
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    The Return of the eyebrows…………

    • March 31, 2016 at 8:45 pm
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      He is also looking pretty tan for someone who has been under that mask for 16 years.

      • March 31, 2016 at 9:36 pm
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        that’s from being extra crispy!

        • March 31, 2016 at 9:49 pm
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          think it should of been less though.I

    • April 1, 2016 at 5:06 am
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      But why are his eyes orange?

        • April 1, 2016 at 2:46 pm
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          I must be color blind as well, because I do see orange too. IMO is the reflex of the burnt metal of the helmet.

          • April 1, 2016 at 9:39 pm
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            umm.. they are yellow with a red outer ring – because.. Sith.

          • April 2, 2016 at 7:03 am
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            I see what you mean. In the dark lighting, that could be seen as orange.

        • April 1, 2016 at 4:30 pm
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          I haven’t seen it yet but it looks amber to me and his eyes were very dark in Jedi compared to that.

      • April 1, 2016 at 5:05 pm
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        Exactly how they looked at the end of ROTS.

        • April 1, 2016 at 5:18 pm
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          Not when the helmet went on though.

  • March 31, 2016 at 8:30 pm
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    I imagine I’ll cop some grief for this comment lol
    With mention of Thrawn for season 3, I would genuinely love to see an animated series made from the Thrawn trilogy.
    I’m not down with the whole eu thing, but I remember the excitement at being transported back into what felt like the world I loved when reading the books. Definitely would like to see them realised on screen

    • March 31, 2016 at 8:52 pm
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      That would be pretty cool. I feel like after rebels is over we may get an animation about the rise of the first order/resistance conflict and the fall of skywalker’s academy since you can’t do that in live action without recasting everyone and that is a very important story in a similar vein to the thrawn trilogy. Then again they may stick to novels since it seems like a dark affair

      • April 1, 2016 at 8:25 am
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        By the time Rebels ends, the sequel trilogy would be over, so that could definitely happen.

    • April 1, 2016 at 1:03 am
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      You might like the Dark Horse adaptations they did a while back. The art had a slightly animated feel, if I recall.

  • March 31, 2016 at 8:33 pm
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    I did not see the episode as I don’t have the channel, but I did see Rebels Recon. Filoni teased some things that will be coming down the series and mentioned something that to me anyway, seems to suggest that some sort of the EU will be introduced to us as canon. Maybe they’ll introduce Thrawn, Darth Revan, etc. The possibilities in this show, and what means to the original trilogy and new trilogy going forward is exciting and endless.

    I also enjoyed the fact that the temple where they were in last, where Ashoka and Vader battled, that it used to be controlled by an ancient Sith Master. I read on IGN that it was a female voice/whisper and that’s actually the actress that plays Ventress in the Clone Wars animated show. Obviously, Ventress is dead, but the possibility of exploring that ancient Sith Master is exciting. She presumably had that temple as a weapon where ancient Jedi Knights stormed in and tried to stop it, but all were frozen in carbon which I’m not sure was shown to the audience since I’ve yet to see this season and episode. I’m buying the seasons on Blu Ray for my own collection.

    Most of what happened in the season finale, I read on IGN with a lengthy conversation with Dave Filoni. I highly recommend it.

    Needless to say, I’m excited for Star Wars Celebration later this year.

  • March 31, 2016 at 9:07 pm
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    *spoilers in this comment*
    All the references to Legends continuity were awesome! Makes me hungrier than ever for Old Republic to come back into canon.

    -Malacore’s ancient superweapon akin to the Shadow-Mass Generator of Legend
    -Crossguard saber confirmed an an ancient design which Kylo Ren mimics
    -Sith Holocron! (still hoping it contains footage of Revan but I’m just dreaming)
    -Maul acting like the evil mirror of Yoda in ESB. Pretending to be frail and old.
    -Showdown with Vader felt very similar to the end of Force Unleashed and RotJ

    Speaking of Force Unleased. I felt like Kanan was channeling Kyle Katarn from legends continuity, but it looks like he make he could have a bit of a Rahm Kota path, becoming a wise (albiet broken) Jedi mentor to try and redeem Ezra should he go Dark.

    • April 1, 2016 at 5:04 pm
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      And the fact that Ahsoka told the others in the ship “There is always some truth in Legends.” Pretty cool, right? That HAD to be an intentional line in the script.

  • March 31, 2016 at 10:27 pm
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    I am such a fan of Star Wars Rebels. I am happy that Ahsoka, Kanan and Ezra will all live to tell another tale. But all of them will be changed emotionally and physically (especially Kanan). I will miss Kanan’s pretty Turquoise color eyes. Looking forward to season 3.

  • April 1, 2016 at 2:39 am
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    Okay, I’ll say this and hope someone at Disney reads me: I want Luke Skywalker to know more about his father’s former life from an hermit called Ahsoka Tano, between ROTJ and TFA. Or even in the Sequel Trilogy. Period.

    Ahsoka loves Anakin, it even had hints of romanticism (I won’t leave you? WTF).

    I want the link between Luke and Anakin explored. We need that more than water. Even between ANH and ESB, if Anakin oficially died as a Hero, then he should have been remembered amongst the rebellion’s Clone War heroes. And Luke should have had the curiosity, right?

    Ahsoka lives. Anakin lives. Vader lives. And we have Rogue One in december.

    Fuck the sequels, there’s a lot more fabric to be cut in this era.

    • April 1, 2016 at 4:47 am
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      I think your idea to connect Ahsoka and Luke is very interesting and would love to watch, or read, about Luke learning more about his father’s years as a Jedi Knight. Or even if was simply Luke obtaining Anakin’s holographic training videos as the connection, that would be neat.

    • April 1, 2016 at 2:29 pm
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      That is an interesting idea.

    • April 3, 2016 at 7:53 am
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      Platonic friends can’t still show that kind of loyalty?

      • April 4, 2016 at 2:41 am
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        Perhaps. But the overall point was that Ahsoka really loved and idealised Anakin. And that Luke as an orphan who never knew his father should have been, at some point in his life, genuinely interested in knowing more about “this” Anakins Skywalker who happened to be a war hero.

  • April 1, 2016 at 4:45 am
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    With the exception of the lightsaber helicopter (yeah, even I, who has never flinched at the idea of R2 having rocket boosters, couldn’t handle this), this was an amazing episode. Maul was awesome. The duel between Ahsoka and Vader was awesome (especially after Vader’s mask was damaged). And the potential for next season (Kanan coping with the loss of his sight, Ezra sliding towards the dark side, etc.) really makes me want it to be fall so we can see it already!

    • April 1, 2016 at 5:18 am
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      Funny. I don’t like the droid rockets, but do like the helecopter Lightsabers.

  • April 1, 2016 at 5:16 am
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    That was the best 40 minutes or so of Star Wars animation… ever. Very well done. I’m genuinely curious to see what happens to everyone next year. Will the end of the season tie into Rogue One?

  • April 1, 2016 at 5:48 am
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    I wonder if they will do another marathon on their site ala May the 4th? I hope he was hinting at a Rogue One tie-in episode since there would be no better opportunity to do that than here.

    • April 1, 2016 at 8:21 am
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      There were some TV spots during the broadcast of the apprentice that said that a May 4th Lego Star Wars marathon would be happening on Disney XD.

      • April 1, 2016 at 4:16 pm
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        Probably on the site too.

  • April 1, 2016 at 8:14 am
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    May be I am wrong, but it could happen that the delay getting a teaser of Rogue One could be related to the end of Star Wars Rebels season.

  • April 1, 2016 at 8:20 am
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    BEST. REBELS. EPISODE. EVER.

    • April 1, 2016 at 12:13 pm
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      TUD, brotha man. You are so right.

    • April 1, 2016 at 10:12 pm
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      Great episode, indeed. I could’ve done without the sabre-o-copters but, oh well – nothing is perfect.

  • April 1, 2016 at 4:26 pm
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    I liked it, I wish they had have killed off Darth Maul though, he’s had his time. The final battle between Vader and Ashoka would have been ruined for me had she not discovered Vader’s true identity, I want more… The only thing I didn’t like was the saber helicopters… Aside from the absurdity of it, they have the force and can jump and land to and from far places as it is…

  • April 1, 2016 at 6:09 pm
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    My thoughts.
    It was a good episode, no doubt.
    Malachor was really great, the surface and the temple. Love planets with Force importance.
    Sith Holocron thing was great.
    All inquisitors dying (i hope) was great.
    Last minutes were brilliant. Just want to know more about Kanan and Ezra.
    But I didn’t like Maul again. Yes, i can handle it here one more time but keeping him alive AGAIN is just boring.
    Didn’t like Keeping Ashoka alive knowing Anakin’s fate. (Why just don’t kill her? It was a good moment)
    Didn’t like inquisitors sabers and how Vader escape.
    Anyway, like Kanan and Ezra characters, trying to make my new sequel connections.
    Like the idea of “trying to destroy” the “sith thing” knowing everything about it. In my opinion there is something trying to destroy the old sith religion to use only the force, for good and evil reasons, without religions, to begin a new kind of “Order”. The Snoke one maybe?

  • April 1, 2016 at 6:12 pm
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    Who you think has more numbers to be Snoke?
    Kanan, with his face wounds?
    Ezra, with his evil knowledge?
    The last minutes were so interesting

    • April 2, 2016 at 5:02 am
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      My money’s on the little birdie watching them all. Ezra will be the first Knight of Ren.

    • April 2, 2016 at 7:49 am
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      Neither. Snoke is Snoke.

  • April 2, 2016 at 2:57 am
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    Wow, really great episodes! I have done some 3d Animation myself (even though I am more modeller and rigger than animator :P) but the quality of those episodes was top notch. Technically and story wise.

    Ps: I have read that some were irritated by the lightsaberocopter but I actually liked them. In every Star Wars things were added to the force and its abilities. Ep IV introduced the force as being able to do mindtricks and feel disturbances in the force. In Ep V we got telekinesis and in ep VI we got forcelightning (…) and in TFA a forceuser can even stop blaster shots mid air. Adding new things Jedis/Sith can do every now and then is what keeps the Force so interesting. If you try to include “realism” and “physics” into Star Wars how about this: lightsabers radiate some amount of heat. In dense athmospheres with lots of particles to carry vibrations (and that sith planet was indeed really foggy) this effect would be even stronger. heated air has less density than cold air and is thus lighter. so like the droplet of water that hovers on a hot oven plate i think sabre-o-copters are credible in combination with forcejumping and pushing. and hey, after all we have accepterd space travelling whaleoppuses so this one isn’t too bad 😀

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