Andy Serkis Debunks Several The Force Awakens Rumors.

Andy Serkis

Entertainment Weekly caught up with the actor at the premiere for The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies, and asked him 10 questions about The Force Awakens…


From EntertainmentWeekly:

1.) His voice was unaltered for the trailer.

We know now that the narrator of The Force Awakens teaser was Serkis’ unspecified character, but at first no one was sure which actor was speaking. Was his voice being deliberately masked? “That is the character,” Serkis says, adding that the gravelly, ominous voice is entirely organic. “There’s no digital manipulation. That’s just me.”


2.) Serkis, a pioneer of performance-capture technology, will not play multiple characters in the movie.

The rumor that Serkis will take on more than one part is “not true at all,” Serkis says. “I can say I only play one character.”



4.) The actor knew those lines would be in the trailer.

It’s true—though Serkis simply didn’t know how large a role his voice would play in those 88 seconds. Apart from the background muttering of droids, his is the only voice that we hear. “Director J.J. Abrams and Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy] told me, ‘You’re all over the trailer,’ but I didn’t know what that meant,” Serkis says. “I thought, ‘Oh great, they’re using the voice of the character I play for the trailer. That’s fantastic.’ Not thinking what that would actually translate into.”


6.) Will Serkis’s character lead a “group of unbelievably athletic and acrobatic motion capture characters”?

This report from Jedi News also gets a big laugh out of Serkis – along with a sustained eyeball-roll. “I’m not leading a band of gymnasts or acrobats,” he says.


10.) He’ll be getting an action figure (unless they want an unhappy actor on their hands).


“That, I hope,” Serkis says, crossing his arms. “I’d better.”


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72 thoughts on “Andy Serkis Debunks Several The Force Awakens Rumors.

  • December 17, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    This basically confirms that he plays a mo-cap character. When they said “you are all over this trailer” he new that ment his voice. So his image must not appear onscreen.

    • December 18, 2014 at 2:38 am

      “This basically confirms that he plays a mo-cap character.”

      How so?
      I’m not saying he is or isn’t…but I don’t see any thing that indicates it either way.

      • December 18, 2014 at 3:19 am

        They said “your all over the trailer” and he said “Oh great the VOICE of the character I play is in the trailer” you not exactly Sherlock Holmes are you? do you think if they told daisy she’s in the tailor she would assume that that just her voice was in the trailer? No! He obviously assumed that because his voice is the only part of him in the movie

        • December 18, 2014 at 3:51 am

          so sherlock! why wouldnt his mo-cap character be able to appear in the trailer!

          • December 18, 2014 at 4:38 am

            I didn’t say it couldn’t. You seem to be missin the point. What you should be asking is why if he is in the movie did he know only his voice could be I. The trailer. Whether his cgi self could or could not be in the trailer is irrelevant to the conversation. Although it is posable that he did know that his cgi self could not be in the trailer since his company is doing the mo-cap and so me may know the the character is not finished enough yet to be I. The trailer.

          • December 18, 2014 at 5:01 am

            Think about it this way: What if he knew his image wouldn’t be used in the trailer due to production secrecy? Sort of like how Sabastian shaw probably wouldn’t have been able to mention that he would be playing Darth Vader unmasked in ROTJ because then we’d know? I’d imagine JJ & Kennedy’s discussion with him about his involvement in the trailer wasn’t as brief as how it’s described.

            I am very surprised the voice wasn’t digitally altered… that is a pretty bassy voice… I mean compared to Gollum it sounds VERY different. I’m guessing he did the Gollum voice as well right?

          • December 18, 2014 at 5:14 am

            Also, if he knows his character is an ultimate villain, then he safely assumes that this character will be left as a huge surprise in the actual film. The menace of many arch-villains in cinema is that they stay mysterious for a long period before a dramatic reveal. If he knows it’s a Palpatine-esque character of this nature, then it is obvious to him he won’t be seen in the trailer. He deduces that the only implication is his voice must be in the trailer. It’s really quite elementary, my dear Watson.

          • December 18, 2014 at 5:22 am

            How do we know he is playing a villain? Besides the deep voice, what other hints do you have? He speaks of an awakening of the Dark side AND the light. Nothing is what it seems, Sherlock.

    • December 18, 2014 at 8:41 am

      Bono, your deductions have no sense…
      Reading this interview i can think the opposite you say.
      No mo-cap.
      His character is not confirmed.

  • December 17, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    So those lines are in the movie it would seem.

  • December 17, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    Darth Plagueis back from the dead.

      • December 17, 2014 at 11:51 pm

        Why not? Some connected sources who panned out recently are confirming his existence. Filter out the noise (4chan) and pay attention to the signal (here, Gabriel Gray, Making Star Wars,Star Wars Underworld, possibly Fanpedia).

        • December 18, 2014 at 12:11 am

          That movie teaser said a whole lot with very little, do you know what it said? This movie is not going to be anything like the prequels. I’m pretty sure they are going to stay as far way from them as possible, so no Plagueis.

          • December 18, 2014 at 12:52 am

            you have always been a prequel hater, so you can read anything you like into what serkis said.

          • December 18, 2014 at 1:00 am

            @ Duke Groundrunner

            yeah right, disney is staying away from the prequels. Next you’re going to claim that the movie is going to stay away from CGI… even though there was a lot of it in the teaser trailer.

          • December 18, 2014 at 1:07 am

            (Anonymous December 18, 2014 at 01:00 AM) You have seen the trailer, they seem like they’re trying to really make it look like the original trilogy. Also, i don’t have a problem with good CGI and i wouldn’t make a claim like that. This movie will have a good amount of CGI but probably less than most modern heavy special effects.

          • December 18, 2014 at 2:33 am

            What parts of the trailer were CGI? Maybe the falcon & Driver’s light saber… but nothing like what we saw in the Prequels.

            From what I could tell everything was mostly models… I mean we just got confirmation that BB8 was real.

          • December 18, 2014 at 3:47 am

            I DON’T WANT the sequels look like the prequels, but I WANT the sequels ABSOLUTELY keep in mind the whole story. I want Plagueis be in it, and I’m quite convinced he will 🙂

          • December 18, 2014 at 5:27 am

            Why do people have to go to such extremes when discussing CGI in episode 7? No one really believes that when JJ said he wants to use more practical effects, that he wants to make a Star Wars film with absolutely no CGI. None of you are that stupid, are you? He obviously says that specifically in the context of the prequels, which were drowning in CGI. Having a strong focus on practical effects means many actual sets, puppet characters, models and scale miniatures. Space scenes can be much more complex with CGI and the camera can move more dynamically, so it is only natural that he will use some of that to enhance the film. That in NO WAY invalidates that he will give a much greater priority to practical effects in these movies. We can actually have both. Please stop with these absolutist arguments!

          • December 18, 2014 at 10:34 am

            I’m one of the anti-CGI crowd people but I don’t think I ever said that there should be no CGI in the film. Perhaps some might feel that way but there are times when I think CGI looks good. I tend not to be a fan of it if it’s in the foreground. In the Prequels my favorite use of it was during Anakin’s fight with Dooku in Episode III… the space battle going on in the background looked very cool. For things like light sabers & laser blasts… of course… it would be better to CGI that.

            For characters I think using both CGI & practical looks cool… like for example Scottie’s assistant in JJ’s star trek reboots. It looks like the costume is real but the eyes are CGI’d… but it looks good & I’d imagine that’s the same route JJ will go for SW (as opposed to doing a full on CGI character where everything, including the clothes would be CGI… I don’t think we’ll see any of that) I do see in the concept art there is that blue faced alien/ Rey’s friend? If it’s a mo-cap with real clothes I could live with that… something tells me that will be the case but we’ll see.

            Space scenes are actually where models really shine… no CGI can replicate something like a Star Destroyer that has a million shapes all over it which all cast shadows.
            I wasn’t a big fan of how the falcon looked in the teaser… I mean I don’t think it looked bad, & the shot might still be in the process of refinement… but I’m not going to complain about it, I just think it can look better. (there were some flat textures placed on some parts of the ship that look a bit like the old fps shooter wall textures).

            I think for something like the Enterprise in JJ’s Star Treks the CGI looks fine because it’s a simple curved shape without many protrusions. I don’t know if into Darkness & ST reboot used models for Enterprise… I think they were CGI but it looked convincing. The CGI used for the Army’s spaceship in the intro to Avatar looked very fake (to provide an example). I wouldn’t be opposed to using models placed digitally for battles though… I’m actually thinking that’s what will be done for epic space battles. They are making use of 3D printers for the production… maybe to print a bunch of X-wing models & Tie fighters? 🙂

          • December 18, 2014 at 1:03 am

            I only hate Attack of the Clones, i have a weird soft spot for The Phantom Menace and i have no opinion on Revenge of the Sith. You’re reading too much into what i wrote.

          • December 18, 2014 at 1:39 am

            The Revenge of the Sith would not have been half bad if it weren’t for the acting. Hayden’s “if you’re not with me, then you’re my enemy” sounds like he’s constipated and trying to get it out. Don’t have the words to describe how “You will try” sounds.

            Here’s the clip.

          • December 18, 2014 at 1:49 am

            Maybe they didn’t use the best take in the re recorded dub over in post?

          • December 18, 2014 at 1:51 am

            Or, if you could imagine, that was the best take they could salvage. Maybe if you mute Hayden out it would make the scene better. Watch it again, muting Anakin and let’s see.

          • December 18, 2014 at 1:58 am

            The scenes would have been better if neither of them said anything, just crank up the John Williams and let them go at it. Leave the my bother thing at the end then done.

          • December 18, 2014 at 3:09 am

            Disagree. Anyone who’s seen Indy4 knows what happened with the PQs:

          • December 18, 2014 at 2:05 am

            Duke Groundrunner December 18, 2014 at 01:58 AM
            The scenes would have been better if neither of them said anything, just crank up the John Williams and let them go at it. Leave the my bother thing at the end then done.
            Yes, but they would have been more bearable if it was just Obi-Wan was talking.

            On a side note, maybe the PT could have actually used MORE CGI and made a better trilogy. If they could have just CGI’ed the Anakin character instead of Hayden, it would have been more life like.

          • December 18, 2014 at 10:08 am

            Those are exactly the spots I have cited to others when trying to describe how the prequels suffered mostly from Hayden Christiansen’s acting, the cgi was a bit too noticeable but I could have overlooked it more if the dialogue and acting of certain key characters had been better

          • December 18, 2014 at 3:37 am

            I’m a prequel hater. I think they sucked!

          • December 18, 2014 at 9:44 am

            Prequel Haters? Who liked the prequels? Nobody liked them. They were garbage. Sure, we all went to the movies and saw them, hoping for something good, and they were all total crap. The prequels never happened as far as this movie is concerned. Lets not forget that Sith is from the prequels. The emperor and Vader were just powerful dark side villains. Nothing is mentioned about sith lord, rule of two bs. There are no rules in the original movies about the force. Thats what makes it great, it leaves it open just enough for our imagination to make it even better. This is what JJ wants to get back to. Forget about cannons, EU, and whatever books you read.

          • December 18, 2014 at 10:19 pm

            I liked the PT. You didn’t? Fine. Just don’t try to justify your hatred for the prequels through lies.

            The Dark Lords of the Sith is a concept that’s been there right from the start. Proof of this is that one of the main complaints when TPM came out was the rule of 2, precisely, as most fans were expecting to see epic clashes between tons of Sith and Jedi in the PT.

            I know this because I was there all along, from ’97 till TPM came out in ’99, checking out and discussing rumors about the film, just like we’re all doing here with TFA today. I read many a rumor speaking of the Clone Wars possibly being a major conflict between the armies of the Jedi and those of the Sith, even when that clearly didn’t come true.

            And, where do you get that there are rules to the Force? It’s the Jedi that had rules, not the Force. And this was clearly established all the way back in the OT, through Yoda’s training of Luke. There were always rules to USING the Force, not to feeling it, much less to the Force itself. Frankly, one would have to be a totally dense idiot NOT to understand this.

            Again, hate on the PT all you want. Just don’t make up stuff to try and justify your dislike for those films, much less pass your opinion as fact, especially when said opinion is clearly disinformed.

          • December 20, 2014 at 12:56 am

            Guess who else hated the prequels? JJ Abrams. Guess who wrote the story?

            Lucas is a consultant on these movies, but the story may not be anything like what he imagined or originally planned. JJ and Kasdan wrote it. JJ is directing it. So, it is safe to assume the prequels will have little influence on this movie. This is a good thing. We should all be happy he feels that way. Natalie Portman was in all 3, and she even hated the prequels. The studio hates the prequels. Pretty much everyone hates the prequels, and they plan on making as much money as possible with this new trilogy so……. Its immense pressure, and JJ isn’t going to screw it up by paying homage to the stupid prequels. He has the best movies right there as a guide, the original trilogy, and he has the original cast. The majority of the talk I see on these sites is very prequelesque. Lots of prequel jargon being thrown about. I am just putting it out there, that you might be surprised to find none of that stuff in this movie. Just like none of that stuff was in the original trilogy. Go back and watch the originals and see. regardless of what was in a book or what lucas originally wrote, what was in the movies?

          • December 18, 2014 at 10:27 pm

            haha you are sure headind towards some serious disapointment. Please keep me updated as i believe this is going to be very entertaining to witness:)

          • December 18, 2014 at 3:27 am

            “This movie is not going to be anything like the prequels. I’m pretty sure they are going to stay as far way from them as possible, so no Plagueis.”

            IDK if this film will be like the PT or not. It might be better or it might be worse, much to the chagrin of the tons of PT haters out there.

            What I do know is that this is not the reason why they’re staying away from the absurd Plagueis-back-from-the-grave plotline.

            They’re staying away from that folly, simply because it’s lame as heII and it makes absolutely no sense for anyone with a little knowledge of good story-telling.

            As for the ST staying away from the prequels, the title of Ep. VII itself is a direct reference to the Balance of the Force (obviously the PT’s main plot point). The Force would not need to stir awake, if it hadn’t been dormant (i.e. balanced) since the end of RotJ.

          • December 18, 2014 at 3:40 am

            So, what you’re saying is, is that the idea of the Force being in “balance” is that it is asleep?

          • December 18, 2014 at 4:37 pm

            Yep, that could very well be it, figuratively or symbolically speaking.

            Asleep, dormant, in hibernation…this means the Force has remained idle for all this time, and thus it’s not leaning towards one side or the other: it’s remained balanced.

          • December 18, 2014 at 3:52 am

            It’s not lame at all. Look at Palpatine’s words in Revenge of the Sith regarding Plagueis, that may be the seed of the sequel trilogy.

          • December 18, 2014 at 3:57 am

            And by the way,

            We could see Hayden’s ghost in this movie. Or why would George change the ghost in ROTJ? Having Luke in all movies talking to ghosts and not having him talking to Anakin in VII would be weird.

          • December 18, 2014 at 4:27 am

            Won’t happen

          • December 18, 2014 at 4:54 pm

            Why is this lame?

            Because if Palpatine wasn’t lying through his teeth to Anakin about the “legend of Darth Plagueis the Wise” (and that’s a HUGE if) that means Plagueis was more powerful than his apprentice.

            In this case, why would the guy wait for the Empire to be visibly weakened by the Rebellion, for Luke to grow stronger and wiser and for him to begin training new apprentices, to make his move?

            Why not step right into the power vacuum created by Palpatine and Vader’s deaths to claim the throne for himself? Or better yet, why not repay Palps in kind, and kill him in his sleep when the Empire was at its strongest? Why not approach Vader and try to turn him to your cause, like Vader himself tried to do with Luke in Bespin? Or why not train a new apprentice, and send him out on secret missions to help your cause, like Sidious did with Maul?

            Furthermore, why didn’t Palpatine and Vader feel the tremor or disturbance in the Force that the presence of a powerful Sith such as Plagueis would stir? It’s the Jedi that couldn’t see past the veil of the Dark Side, and not the Sith, obviously, since their source of power is the Dark Side.

            And those are just a few reasons that come to the top of my head right now to explain why Plagueis’ involvement in the ST would make no sense at all.

    • December 17, 2014 at 11:11 pm


      I’m sure Palpatine was a TOTAL idiot who wouldn’t have made ABSOLUTELY certain that Plagueis was DEAD, DEAD, DEAD when he killed him in his sleep (and that’s only if the guy was truly capable of cheating death, and Palps was not lying through his teeth, only to turn Anakin).

      • December 18, 2014 at 1:17 am

        Wasn’t like he didn’t do that though!

      • December 18, 2014 at 1:22 am

        What, you don’t think that Palps would lie to Anakin?

        I’m not for or against the Plaqueis argument, but Palps deceived the entire galaxy!

        • December 18, 2014 at 3:15 am

          haha…of course Palpatine was lying blatantly to Anakin when he spoke of Plagueis’ amazing Dark Side skills.

          He was able to save the people “close to him” (paraphrasing) from dying? Since when has a Sith cared about anyone other than themselves?

          That simple fact alone makes it all but clear to those with eyes to see that Palps was lying about Plagueis’ ability to cheat death. He only told Anakin that so that the poor guy actually believed that there was a way for him to save Padmé.

          Alas, like Anakin, not everyone has eyes to see beyond the lies of a Sith Lord. And so oft times, things have to be spelled out for them. I just try to do it as gently and untroll-like as possible.

          To be perfectly blunt though, you’d have to be a total tool to believe that Palps was actually speaking true about ANYTHING concerning Plagueis, but for the part about his apprentice (Sidious himself, of course) killing the guy in his sleep, perhaps.

          • December 18, 2014 at 3:26 am

            “To be perfectly blunt though, you’d have to be a total tool to believe that Palps was actually speaking true about ANYTHING concerning Plagueis, but for the part about his apprentice (Sidious himself, of course) killing the guy in his sleep, perhaps.”

            He could have been lying about that, too. All we know about Plaqueis’ death is what Palps told Anakin in the middle of a whole smorgasbord of lies. Maybe Palps had Plaqueis imprisoned somewhere because he couldn’t kill him because Plaqueis discovered the way to immortality? Although, all of that sounds completely crazy.

            I’m not for or against the Plaqueis argument, though.

          • December 18, 2014 at 3:33 am

            “Maybe Palps had Plaqueis imprisoned somewhere because he couldn’t kill him because Plaqueis discovered the way to immortality?”

            I’m not buying into this possibility, anymore than I’m buying into those rumors about Luke being imprisoned for years by the time of TFA, for instance.

            I just think that Force-wielders at Plagueis or Luke’s level (at the time of the ST) would have found a way to break free at some point, especially after spending so long locked away.

            I’m not against or for any potential thread or plotline, as long as it makes sense to me. And as you’ve wisely observed yourself, Rebel, this would be totally crazy IMO, too.

          • December 18, 2014 at 3:47 am

            Makes sense…and then to quote Obi Wan what he said was right from a certain point of view. Maybe imprisoned with Luke…but I think Luke is more in a self imposed prison.
            Everything is proceeding as I have forseen it.

          • December 18, 2014 at 4:42 pm

            Agreed on Luke. I think he’s been in self-imposed exile, for all the reasons that the now infamous Spoiler Man mentioned in his leaks.

            Thinking that Luke’s estranged himself from the rest of the galaxy—to study and research the old Jedi, to analyze their mistakes so that he can avoid them as he rebuilds the Order, and so he can train his apprentices in peace—makes a helluva lot more sense IMO, than thinking he’s been kept imprisoned for decades.

            Knowing his twin sis and his friends’ makeup, I’m sure Leia, Han, Chewie and Lando would’ve found a way to free him by now, even if Luke’s powers weren’t enough for him to free himself.

  • December 17, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    I look forward to getting a Serkis figure too. Whether I like the movie or not, I’ll get that one.

  • December 17, 2014 at 10:45 pm

    Toy Fair 2015 is in February so I hope we get some sort of preview for the figures so we know what he Serkis’ character looks like. Then again there’s possibility of his figure not coming out until far after the movie comes out to keep his appearance under wraps. Crapshoot either way.

    • December 17, 2014 at 10:50 pm

      I really doubt they will show characters out of Finn, Poe, Rey or BB8, not until next trailer in May!

  • December 17, 2014 at 10:47 pm

    I still cannot believe that some people were convinced that A) it was Benedict Cumberbatch, and B) that the voice had to have been digitally manipulated, as though Andy Serkis is unable to put on a deeper voice..

  • December 17, 2014 at 10:49 pm

    Would like to see truth to the rumour that he’s a motion capture creepy zombie sith thingy

    • December 18, 2014 at 1:03 am

      more than likely he’ll be playing a small gollum alien thing… because that’s why he was hired by Disney in the first place. Don’t forget this movie is run by the most uncreative team on earth: Disney (who keeps rehashing everything that’s popular to minimize risk-taking) and JJ Abrams (who destroyed Star Trek.)

      • December 18, 2014 at 5:04 pm

        And Lawrence Kasdan isn’t creative? What about the army of builders, sound guys and action choreographers (quite a few of them being returning-SW-veterans)?
        They did not cast Andy Serkis because he can play Gollum, they cast him because he can also play a giant ape, an intelligent ape and a drunken scottish sailor as well. The guy might be acting via computer but he has range; and that is what they SHOULD be casting him for.
        Even Lucas was shaky about having Miss Piggy as a Jedi Master. Andy actually has more credentials now than Frank Oz did in ’79.

  • December 18, 2014 at 12:47 am

    Plagueis or Bane? Doesn’t really matter because both have the potential to return. Sidious; the uber-smart Sith, forgot to check for a pulse, idiot. (the Muun had already surprised his apprentice before, by minimizing his force presence) And Bane? Well, Drew K left that door open with Zannah’s post-brain-fight, fist-clench. Having said that, I’m sure PT bashers & CT-purists will poo-poo both of them until JJ shuts them up next December.

    If it’s a real set, Luke could spend 6 hours in the Falcon’s crapper for the duration of the next 3 flicks in the saga & the ST would get better reviews than the PT… because G. Walton ISN’T behind the camera & the actors AREN’T in front of a green screen 90% of the time.

  • December 18, 2014 at 12:58 am

    First we get lightsabers with hilts.. Now Andy Serkis as the official spokesperson for VII, it seems? Can they quit with the medievel lord of the rings tie-ins and make this star wars?

    My worst fear is slowly being realized: Disney is turning Star Wars into a Lord of the Rings thing because they are still sore they passed up on that trilogy’s rights back in the 90s.

    My god, can’t they interview John Boyega or Daisy Ridley????

    • December 18, 2014 at 1:04 am

      ^let’s not forget the dark lord’s castle (where Luke is being kept) and the creepy Smaug-dragon-like voice. Will the lord of the rings tie-in never end?????

    • December 18, 2014 at 5:18 am


    • December 20, 2014 at 5:48 am

      Someone’s bitter. And not rational. There are NO connections beyond using the same actor. A good one too.

  • December 18, 2014 at 5:04 am

    I have a great idea. Regardless what the post is let’s bash the prequels. I’m not really clear as to what people think about them.

    • December 18, 2014 at 5:19 am

      Yes! That sounds infinitely more constructive than, say, talking about what Serkis actually said and what the implications are for his character.

  • December 18, 2014 at 12:07 pm

    He is playing Ezra, Kylo Ren.
    Its like type casting…Golem
    Luke has a counter part.
    Think of the dark Yoda episode ( why else would they do that)
    Think of how much Ezra, and Luke have in common, yet Ezra is his mirror, a little bit towards the dark side I would say.
    Both are orphans, both same age.
    Think of the Original concept of Luke fighting another. (Even though the other Yoda spoke of was Leia.) The concept of Luke fighting another in the end has been rehashed.

    Just like in the EU it was Mara Jade, a female version of Luke, then he fights a dark version (clone) of himself.

    They are borrowing from EU and old Lucas concepts.

    A possibility, not fact.

  • December 18, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    Schmiegel Luke /Golem Ezra

    Which reminds me.
    Shmi is Anakins mothers name, In Hebrew it means MY NAME.
    Does this mean anything, no.
    All just a theory.

  • December 18, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    Cloaked figure holding Vader’s Mask in concept art has a robotic hand, like Luke does and the mask the figure is wearing is a half mask with the mouth visable, just like Ezra does.
    Ezra is a Dark version/doppelganger of Luke.

  • December 18, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    Common sense would tell us that Serkis is a villian. More than likely the new Sith-Mastermind behind the empire. I mean really, who better to lead the empire than Caesar himself. 😉

  • December 18, 2014 at 8:03 pm


  • December 19, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    Why was it not mentioned is this article that he says in the EW article that the character “has been through some stuff” (question 3). I think that’s the most revealing quote.

    I really don’t want a character from either trilogy. Any way they say “this was going on the whole time in the OT or PT” would discredit the OT for me.

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