Rumor: New Episode VII Scenes/Characters Described – Part I!

LeaksA very interesting report was posted on our very own message board, The Cantina. The person who made the post did a very detailed description of a scene and several characters from Episode VII…






The Cantina member King3000 – who appears to be in-the-know regarding some inside information – posted the following details on a few scenes:


Cantina Scene.

Daisy arrives to Cantina in search of Han or Luke I believe. She is confronted by an alien, she lifts her blaster to him, he then takes it from her hand “Don’t point a blaster at someone if you are not going to use it” and points it at her. At this point Chewie (With arm Bandaged/In a Sling) intimidates the alien, “What good is a one armed wookie” Chewie then rips the guys arm off and hands the blaster back to Daisy. Ford was not present at filming this, BUT……….

Cut to the outside of the Cantina as a Planet/Moon is blown up outside, Han is present here (Weaqring a thin cut, waist length leather jacket, boots etc, a “Matching outfit”) oh and he still has his blaster 🙂 I don’t know if he has just arrived to meet up with Daisy and Chewie, but he is cutting through the crowd of onlookers as everyone is witnessing the destruction of “Whatever” was blown up in the sky.

Note, not 100% sure if Boyega was in the scene but he was present, wearing “Rags” or “Untidy” Clothes.



King3000 also described a Stormtrooper helmet that he claims he saw himself. If you remember few weeks ago when the first Stormtrooper images leaked there were reports of a new black helmet that reminded of the Tie Fighter pilots helmet but kinda different. Here’s what he said:

The Character I “Photoshopped” from memory in my Avatar is an ex Stormtrooper, he wears an original ANH Helmet painted black, which is battle damaged, has a pipe coming from the breathing part connected to something I believe on his back. There is a leather band holding “Ammo” to the side of his helmet, and 5 or 6 Aurebesh Symbols on his helmet.


He wears a Large Fur coat, has a Staff and a blaster and holster across his chest. I have seen this Helmet with my own eyes and its 100% real.



And couple small things.

Nien Numb is a returning character.

Seems as is already known Ralph MQuarrie’s concept art is being heavily used, 3 of these “Wolf” Characters have been “lurking” around set.

And lots of little people.


Later after being asked by other members, King3000 made some more clarifications:


On the blown Moon:

Not sure what it was exactly just people were told to react as if a planet was blown up, but there was a huge bluescreen out the back of Pinewood, I don’t know if the terrain there “Slabbed floors and grass” will be in shot, could give an idea to which planet this is happening on?


This specific scene was shot weeks apart, the interior was done before Harrison was back and the exterior done when he was back, see I have only been told aobut this by someone on production, so I don’t know if they are going to digitally insert Han into the interior shot or if Daisy was looking for him and he arrived outside just as the object in the sky was destroyed.


Originally I was told she was looking for Luke, or I may have remembered this wrong xD but seems it was Han she may have been in search of and when she “found” him he was not in the Cantina but Chewie was.



Oh and not 100% sure if Boyega was in the scene as I was not told of his role, but he was on this set in costume on both dates I was told this, so he probably was with Daisy.


All I was told is that he looks like the has been “Dragged off the street and put on set” apparently is very rags looking.


I am more inclined to believe it was set on the same planet where the Greenham Common filming happened, this was something I specifically asked “What does the terrain look like” I was told “Just the back of Pinewood, slabs, grass etc” this is total specualtion and piecing together by me, I am wondering if something was destroyed in the air (be it planet, moon etc) as a Warning shot of some sort for the rebels on that planet. Either way one thing is for sure and I am unwavered about this, whoever the bad guys are, they got firepower.


On the guy with the helmet:

I know its not Boyega under the helmet, the actor is a white guy. But the other stuff you posted seems good, this film is drenched in Ralph MQuarrie and throwbacks, by the sounds of it, but also moving forward with new characters and concepts.



Something else small I remembered, this character from Jabbas palace is said to be in the film (Hermi Odle). At first thought, I think they may have meant the guy from the Abu Dhabi filming. But I was told he has one arm longer and one foot longer than the other. Also he seems to be a “Butcher” or run a “Meat Stall” at a market.


Now I think it’s highly unlikely that someone could make up this whole thing. Still as you know there were rumors for several fake scripts and other misleading stuff, so as always treat this as rumor for now. For more on the subject join the discussion in The Cantina.


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69 thoughts on “Rumor: New Episode VII Scenes/Characters Described – Part I!

  • September 30, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    Yet another fine read to hold us over til VII’s triumphant arrival in theaters.

  • September 30, 2014 at 10:09 pm

    I read that first paragraph and I was thinking I’ve seen that movie before…. I just cant remember where…. Oh Yhea…. Denzel Washington comes to mind…. Then the guy gets his arm ripped off….

    After that why bother reading more….

    • October 1, 2014 at 10:14 am

      also dont point a gun, if your not prepared to use it is a line off of terminator salvations. so i would not read to much into this

  • September 30, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    What a crock. Nien Numb is back? Ammo strapped to someone’s HEAD? C’mon, this is shit.

    • October 1, 2014 at 1:23 am

      Nimb Numb is back!!!!!!… I think he was way under utilized in episodes 4 and 5. It will be great to see him in a leading roll this time. 😉

  • September 30, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    Hmmm… Remember that Rebels trailer that had Tatooines moon then scrubbed back to pre EpVI… Maybe that’s the moon that blows?

  • September 30, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    Sounds fake, and if not, another planet destroying weapon? That would mean that the writting is derivative.

  • September 30, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    So he knows all of this.. Yet doesn’t know what’s the name of Daisy’s character.. Or Boyega’s.. Hmm..

    • September 30, 2014 at 10:54 pm

      I was just thinking the same thing. I’m calling bullcrap.

    • September 30, 2014 at 11:07 pm

      I’ve heard that every new name in the script is a placeholder name to throw potential leakers off (or to identify them); that could be why King3000 doesn’t know – the only people who know the character names are the actors and the crew involved with the new cast.

      • October 1, 2014 at 12:22 am

        “Now I think it’s highly unlikely that someone could make up this whole thing.”

        You’re such a brat Pomojema, and King3000 is a troll.

        • October 1, 2014 at 12:32 am

          No, the biggest brat on this site is that arrogant, entitled, awful child who’s sticking his tongue out on his avatar and claims to have friends working on the production. Just seeing his whining, lying posts in combination with that hatefully cocky avatar picture makes me rage. Seriously, just give me five minutes in a room with that little piece of crap…

        • October 1, 2014 at 4:14 am

          Psst… Viral Hide wrote that part, not me. I just started the article, he ghostwrote the bulk of it.

          Also, brat? You havin’ a giggle there, mate?

  • September 30, 2014 at 10:59 pm

    That stormtroopers with fur coat might be some kind of warlord. That would be consistent with speculation that the speculation that the galaxy has developed into a dark ages-like period, with barbarism and warlordism. (Similar dark ages-like periods are in the Dune and Foundation series, both of which influenced Lucas.)

    Some of the old drafts of the ANH scripts had the line “It is a period of civil wars. The EMPIRE is crumbling into lawless barbarism throughout the million worlds of the galaxy.” So if the galaxy has indeed crumbled into such a state in Ep.VII, that idea might go back to Lucas’ original first drafts.

    Just speculating, obviously.

    • September 30, 2014 at 11:27 pm

      The Chosen one ( real ) possible in this time ? it iz the time of dark ages in new trilogy…worse than ever before…

      • September 30, 2014 at 11:29 pm

        Um, Anakin Skywalker was the chosen one.

        • October 1, 2014 at 12:05 am

          Don’t worry this is the same person who is still sprouting made up rubbish about how Anakin is a “false prophet” and that there will be a “new light of child”. Because we shouldn’t watch the film and listen to the actual writer, we should listen to a person on the internet who makes up random information.

          • October 1, 2014 at 4:49 am

            Im gonna be glad the day comes after this trilogy is done that Lucas played you for a fool…..hes gotta say that to fans to get them extra tickets sold…. why would he tell you the truth during the prequels ? why would he put in the tragedy of Darth Plaguies in and what he did creating a dark child ?… thank you… you will get shown…

          • October 1, 2014 at 6:59 am

            And we should trust you because?

          • October 1, 2014 at 7:10 am

            Lucas has said Anakin was the Chosen One who brought balance to the Force by killing Palpatine. The “Chosen One” plot thread is over with – why bring it that old trope up again?

          • October 1, 2014 at 11:27 am

            Then explain why there are more Sith in the new trilogy ? And when they show the Sith planet, dont sit there and say that nothing will be on the planet…lmao…

          • October 1, 2014 at 12:22 pm

            “Then explain why there are more Sith in the new trilogy?”
            (1) Will there be? You sure?
            (2) If there are, then this would constitute a retcon, and as such the sequel movie(s) would need to address this. The existing 6-movie saga clearly states that someone conceived by the midi-chlorians will bring balance to the Force by destroying the Sith, and since (1) the this clearly happens on screen, an (2) the creator HAS SAYD it happens as such, I don’t know where the problem lies.

    • October 1, 2014 at 12:39 am

      Or he could be a tie pilot/pimp.

      • October 1, 2014 at 1:04 pm

        Pimptrooper! I wonder how that toy would sell. He’s on a quest to find Leia in a metal bikini but doesn’t know it was 30 years ago,,,,,

    • October 1, 2014 at 12:54 am

      Sounds like the fall of Rome.

      • October 1, 2014 at 12:27 pm

        “Sounds like the fall of Rome.”—Exactly. Which was the event that marked the onset of the Dark Ages.

  • September 30, 2014 at 10:59 pm

    I want to see Nien Nunb back. Why not! Keep it Classic, baby!

  • September 30, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    A planet’s moon blown apart!? If that happened, the planet’s population would most likely be wiped out.
    Maybe it was a large spaceship of some kind being blown up?

    • September 30, 2014 at 11:08 pm

      Remember, this is Star Wars: the fictional universe in which blowing up a moon-sized satellite over the atmosphere of a forest planet doesn’t cause a wildfire of apocalyptic proportions.

      • September 30, 2014 at 11:13 pm

        It happened offscreen. The rebels left that night after the party to avoid it.

        • October 1, 2014 at 12:41 am

          Yes, there is a long-standing fan theory about the “Endor Holocaust”. If you didn’t like the Ewoks (and who can blame you?), there is of course some confort to be derived from the apparent fact that their species went near-extinct within hours of the moment when we last saw them.

          • October 1, 2014 at 2:17 pm

            Ahhh, the smell of burnt Ewok corpses amid the smoking embers of a forest world, a lovely thought to carry me through the day.
            Never thought of that, but all that debris from DS2 entering the atmosphere, billions of pieces, small as bb’s or big as stadiums, starting millions of fires.

  • September 30, 2014 at 11:20 pm

    stupid theory that is 99% false but it came to my mind.

    Andy Serkis is playing a motion-capture character probably Alien, and they said that Star Wars 7 will have a connection with Star wars Rebels.
    What if Andy Serkis plays the alien character from Star Wars Rebels?
    stupid thought i know

    • October 1, 2014 at 2:06 am

      Didn’t Serkis hint that his character prefers lightsabers to blasters and other weapons? Could he end up playing a Jedi or Sith mo-capped alien or something?

  • September 30, 2014 at 11:28 pm

    Any link with rebels would be good. I like the sound of the warlord stormtrooper and I want numb back!

  • September 30, 2014 at 11:29 pm

    So… the catina scene is a remake of the New Hope scene? I hope this movie is not a nostalgic remake, I mean, a new film that is the same thing of the classic. And if this is true, it means Daisy will not be Han’s daughter, right?

  • September 30, 2014 at 11:31 pm

    LMAO…. do the math you all…. the new trilogy is a continuing time of great despair… it iz the dark ages all over the galaxy… all hope is begining to fade…..tribes at war all over… empire, rebels, cults, etc. all at war with each other…. sith lords fighting each other for total power… some are more evil than others…. is this ringing a bell anyone ?…

    • September 30, 2014 at 11:47 pm

      Yeah ! It sounds like the internet : )

    • October 1, 2014 at 1:20 am

      LOTR, Game of Thrones, Boxtrolls, etc.

  • October 1, 2014 at 12:31 am

    How is King3000 involved w/E7? How is it he is in a position to know what is being filmed?

  • October 1, 2014 at 12:45 am

    To be honest, I think nobody has an inkling what the ‘real’ plot of EpVII is. Nor do I think that anybody has sussed out who any of the ‘new’ cast are playing. JJ is doing a crack job keeping us all in the dark.

  • October 1, 2014 at 12:51 am

    Ha ha ha some of you will believe any old shit.

    That “point a gun” line is from another movie. Plus Disney is going to show someone getting their arm ripped off.


  • October 1, 2014 at 1:01 am

    That character with the black stormtrooper helmet and fur coat reminds me of Bane from The Dark Knight Rises.

  • October 1, 2014 at 1:11 am

    yeah highly unlikely that anyone would make up this whole thing, seeing as it’s the height of cinematic greatness.

    It’s not as if I coiled out something similar about an hour ago when I was on the toilet.

    Only Hollywood’s finest minds could come up with such detailed drama.

  • October 1, 2014 at 1:42 am

    Kinda reminds me about Dobido above Sernpidal

  • October 1, 2014 at 2:44 am

    From the number of times I’ve heard McQuarrie’s name mentioned in the past few months, the more I think he is alive and is financially backing this film.

    • October 1, 2014 at 3:18 am

      if the new films are not going to based on McQuarrie’s art, they won’t look like Star Wars. Refer to the prequels to see what I mean.

  • October 1, 2014 at 5:02 am

    They should have hired Syd Mead for the new trilogy.

    • October 1, 2014 at 11:35 am

      His work has and always will have a legacy in of inspired artist’s product. His lines, curves, and concepts will be barrowed much like Mcquarrie. To use him solely would be a distraction. I do hope in the future that someone would make a film purely based off of a large spectrum of his works.

  • October 1, 2014 at 5:44 am

    There’s also great scene that pays omage to (and perhaps even remedies/settles) the “who-shot-first” debate.

  • October 1, 2014 at 5:46 am

    I should start making up plot lines and tell everyone that I am in the know as well. My made up source will of course remain a secret. I will then post about it for all to read in the forum. I will be a Episode 7 internet hero!!

  • October 1, 2014 at 5:55 am


    I’ve got a bad feeling about this…

  • October 1, 2014 at 6:04 am

    Jesus, you people are bitter. Why hang out and post about Star Wars 7 if you’re so convinced it’s gonna be shit (and think every rumour — even if it ends up being true — sounds like shit)?

    True or not, the mere idea of a Wookiee finally ripping someone’s arm from their socket fills me with glee.

    There’s apparently no possible way to win with some supposed “fans”. Referencing Ralph McQuarrie is “derivative” and “fan service”, and any repetition of plot-points (planet-destroying weapons) is redundant (even though Lucas repeated ideas like poetic “stanzas” constantly). Of course, if they introduce anything new that doesn’t fit your idea of canon then that’s awful too.

    How about just, you know, enjoying this for a while. Movies are supposed to be fun, after all.

  • October 1, 2014 at 9:26 am

    Until December 2015, I’m gonna stay sane by assuming that it’s ALL made up rumors.

    And the only facts start after i have my popcorn and the movie starts.

    Until then, let your speculations run wild!

    This is fun!

  • October 1, 2014 at 11:13 am

    Rumor: the desert market from the force for change video is anchor head. I’d tell you more but I can only take you as far as here.

    • October 1, 2014 at 11:45 am

      Rumour: the opening crash scene takes place near Beggers Canyon. I’d tell you more but I can only take you as far as here.

  • October 1, 2014 at 11:31 am

    The Star Wars saga has always, and only been about the focus on the conflicts between the Jedi and Sith ( good vs evil ) and the adventures of the Skywalker clan and the people they came across with during their time, and how it all connects……

  • October 1, 2014 at 12:59 pm

    Hey, I’ve just pulled some plot points from out of my ass. Who do I post them to here to get them published?


    I made them up, just like this guy.

  • October 1, 2014 at 1:55 pm

    Has anyone heard any news as to Max Von sydow’s role in the movie?

  • October 1, 2014 at 1:57 pm

    Numb is back? Excellent! Hopefully his action figure will increase in value I have a ton of him! Now if only they would bring back weequee im gonna be quids in!

  • October 1, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    The character with the stormtrooper helmet sounds like an ex-sandtrooper. Recall the ANH production photo of the trooper riding a dewback. Both Cary a staff and both seem to wear fur though the dewback rider’s fur might be part of the saddle that covered the rider’s legs on the toy. Maybe this is the guy responsible for tracking the droids to Luke’s home and incinerating Owen and Beru and he’s still tracking people independently.

  • October 1, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    I would like to point out for those of us who were here for the PT most of the things we heard then were untrue. In fact until right before the movies came out little we heard was true. People got some of the costumes right but the plot points proved to be mostly untrue and speculation.

  • October 1, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    Told you they were on Tat looking for Luke.
    He’s retired, for lack of a better word.

    He also spent a great deal of ROTJ as a (voluntary) captive. They’re not going to have him imprisoned throughout another episode.

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