Entertainment Weekly: New Details on Starkiller Base and General Hux!

Starkiller baseEntertainment Weekly continue today with their exclusive stories on Star Wars: The Force Awakens. The first story for the day is about the “ice planet converted into a stronghold of the First Order and armed with a fiercely destructive new weapon capable of destroying entire star systems” – Starkiller base, and the merciless General Hux!

 

 

Excerpt from Entertainment Weekly:

“It is very much — and it’s acknowledged as such in the movie — apparently another Death Star,” Abrams says. “But what it’s capable of, how it works, and what the threat is, is far greater than what the Death Star could have done. Starkiller Base is another step forward, technologically speaking, in terms of power.”

“Evil’s a little bit like a drug,” Abrams says. “It takes more and more of it to have the same effect. And I think the First Order is a really deadly drug.”
HuxThat brings us to one of the leaders of The First Order: General Hux, a character who has largely remained in the background in the run-up to The Force Awakens.

Domhnall Gleeson (Ex Machina), who plays the young military leader, says this commander of the First Order is defined by arrogance and contempt. “There’s an air of superiority, and being better than those people around you,” he says. “He’s pretty ruthless. A strong disciplinarian would be a mild way of putting it.”

“You don’t get that high up in your life that quickly unless you’re pretty ruthless,” says Gleeson, who’s 32. “You have to put a few people down on the way to get there.” The actor also says Hux doesn’t carry a signature weapon: he has other people to do such dirty work.
New First Order shot from TFAHis disdain for idiosyncrasy applies to allies, too. You might assume the cold, calculating General Hux would be on good terms with Kylo Ren, Adam Driver’s emotion-driven, Darth Vader-obsessed enforcer for the First Order. But you’d be wrong.

There is tension in the ranks of the leadership. Consider them… frenemies.

“He’s kind of opposite Kylo Ren,” Gleeson says. “They have their own relationship, which is individual and unusual. One of them is strong in different ways than the other. They’re both vying for power.”
Kylo Ren & Hux

 

And here’s a very interesting speculation on Starkiller Base by EW’s Anthony Breznican:

 

POTENTIAL SPOILERS AHEAD!

* The only thing more devastating than being able to blow apart a whole planet is the power to detonate, say, an entire sun. The title “Starkiller Base” may not only be an homage to George Lucas’s original surname for Luke Skywalker; it could also accurately describe the battle station’s capabilities.

And that eerie red sky we see in the trailer right before a large forest gets annihilated? Maybe that’s not the planet blowing up from a direct hit but rather the shockwave from a dying (or murdered) star.

Stars that don’t end their lifecycles in supernovas can become a red giant, consuming everything in their orbit in a colossal, crimson expansion of energy before collapsing again into a white dwarf.

 

EW.com promises even more news later today! Stay tuned…

 

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146 thoughts on “Entertainment Weekly: New Details on Starkiller Base and General Hux!

  • November 13, 2015 at 8:09 pm
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    they are literally out to kill my excitement for this horrible film

    • November 13, 2015 at 8:12 pm
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      Uh… How? I’d say they’re doing the complete opposite. Also, why would you have any excitement for a “horrible film” and how do you know it’s going to be horrible in the first place?

      • November 13, 2015 at 8:17 pm
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        this guy is a personality-less clone of tarkin

        • November 13, 2015 at 8:25 pm
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          I’m just curious as to how you have this insight when we’ve heard/seen so little about this character. I know how easy it is to jump to conclusions when the excitement is almost unbearable, but that doesn’t mean you should ruin the movie for yourself before even giving it a first chance.

          • November 13, 2015 at 8:37 pm
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            HAVE YOU EVEN READ THE INTERVIEW???

          • November 13, 2015 at 9:00 pm
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            Yeah, I believe I read the very same interview that you’re basing your out-of-turn judgments on…

          • November 13, 2015 at 9:28 pm
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            Do yourself a HUGE favor and don’t go see it then numbnuts. Whining like a friggin girl wow. The movie will be amazing, but no, you’ve already made up your mind. Sucks to be you.

          • November 14, 2015 at 12:23 pm
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            “This movie will be amazing” yet you say “you’ve already made up your mind”

            Wanna be the pot or the kettle?

          • November 14, 2015 at 1:38 pm
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            Pessimist or optimist?

          • November 14, 2015 at 1:59 pm
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            Two sides of the same coin.

            Long as it’s at least the average film that it’s shaping up to be then I’m happy. Too many people are either buying into the media hype of this being the greatest Star Wars evahhhhh!!!!11111 or they think it will be a repeat of 1999.

            Personally, I think it will be neither. Better than the PT probably but not classics like the OT.

            Somewhere between Jurrasic World and Fury Road. A fun nostalgia driven romp but no one will care about outside the fan community it in 6 years.

            I have higher hopes for the spin-offs.

          • November 15, 2015 at 2:34 am
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            Except that Fury Road has been lauded as one of the best action movies in the last decade while Jurassic world is being labeled as nothing more than a hot nostalgic mess, so I’m not sure as to how it will fall in line between those two.

          • November 15, 2015 at 5:00 pm
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            Neither one had any plot nor anything in them remotely resembling acting but they looked fine visually and traded heavily on nostalgia. Fury Road did it better while Jurrasic did it worse. Fury also dumped it’s main character in favor of a new one who is the star of the sequel.

          • November 14, 2015 at 4:03 pm
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            I’m just being optimistic dude. Why be negative when we don’t know yet..

          • November 14, 2015 at 6:11 pm
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            Fair enough but like you said we don’t know yet. Better to go in with no expectations at all.

        • November 13, 2015 at 8:55 pm
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          have you seen him speak one word? id reserve my judgement until i at least saw some live moving scenes of the character. hot damn!

    • November 13, 2015 at 8:56 pm
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      Why would you be excited for a horrible film?

    • November 13, 2015 at 9:29 pm
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      “Literally”

  • November 13, 2015 at 8:09 pm
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    Hux Tarkin is in charge of Suncrusher base.

  • November 13, 2015 at 8:11 pm
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    “You might assume the cold, calculating General Hux would be on good terms with Kylo Ren, Adam Driver’s emotion-driven, Darth Vader-obsessed enforcer for the First Order. But you’d be wrong. There is tension in the ranks of the leadership. Consider them… frenemies.”

    Very much like Vader, Tarkin and the other military leaders in ANH.

    • November 13, 2015 at 8:20 pm
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      Not digging the lack of originality in this one at all but Gleeson is a good actor so hopefully that makes up for it.

      • November 13, 2015 at 8:26 pm
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        acting rarely saves a horrible character…Benedict cumber-batch is a chief example of jj abrams putting talented actors in characters that have as much personality as the shit i put in the toliet

      • November 13, 2015 at 8:27 pm
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        There’s just as much originality as there is similarity if not more. It really just depends on what you choose to focus your attention on.

        • November 13, 2015 at 8:53 pm
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          Bigger doesn’t equal better. And that’s basically what Abrams is saying: we’re supposed to think that Starkiller is a brilliant idea, only because it’s bigger and badder than both Death Stars.

          • November 13, 2015 at 9:26 pm
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            In my opinion, Star Killer Base is brilliant because 30 years after the 2nd death star was destroyed, the rebel alliance would not have expected their enemy to build a planet-sized death star that destroys entire star systems. How is that not threatening exactly? Did you expect the first order to just chuck the idea of a super weapon when it’s more likely that they’d improve on the design instead? The death star’s initial flaw wouldn’t even be an issue if the station is built into a planet.

          • November 14, 2015 at 12:21 pm
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            Because it’s failed two times already and made them the laughingstock of the galaxy. The First Order will look as threatening as Cobra from the 80’s GI Joe cartoon after it fails again here. It’s why nobody takes North Korea seriously anymore due to all the setbacks they keep having.

        • November 14, 2015 at 12:04 pm
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          Like the….

          Vehicles? Nope!

          Wardrobe? Nope!

          Archetypes? Nope!

          Planets? Nope!

          Weapons? Nope!

          Someone on TheForce.Net predicted the title years before it was announced so that really isn’t either.

      • November 13, 2015 at 8:28 pm
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        acting rarely saves a horrible character…Benedict cumber-batch is a chief example of jj abrams putting talented actors in characters that have as much personality as the shit i put in the toliet

    • November 13, 2015 at 8:51 pm
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      Vader = Ren
      Tarkin = Hux
      Palpatine = Snoke
      Death Star = Starkiller Base

      My god..

  • November 13, 2015 at 8:19 pm
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    This stuff makes me worry. Y’know what? I’m not gonna think about it. Move along.

    • November 13, 2015 at 8:25 pm
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      Definitely. This is the most troubling aspect of the film thus far for me. I’d be way more interested in an Empire like one that was about the force as the title implies than ANOTHER superweapon rehash.

  • November 13, 2015 at 8:22 pm
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    It’s funny to think that everyone was saying how glad they were that the EU was gone due to horrible plot lines like the Sun Crusher and Galaxy Gun yet we are getting a film about exactly that!

    • November 13, 2015 at 8:24 pm
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      The ability to destroy a star system is considerably more advanced than the power to destroy a planet BUT it’s a huge step back since at least the Death Star was mobile. Starkiller is tethered to an entire fucking planet and unless it’s sentinent or has hyperdrive capabilities then it’s kind of a downgrade there. Not to mention it’s ridiculous enough trying to hide a moon let alone an entire planet.

      • November 13, 2015 at 8:27 pm
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        i think that the galaxy gun is just better than star-killer base…if you cant beat a wes anderson plot-device than you simply should never be allowed to work in hollywood

        • November 13, 2015 at 8:35 pm
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          It also had an original name too! A stupid one but at least it wasn’t cribbed from Lucas’s old notes.

          • November 13, 2015 at 8:37 pm
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            starkiller sounds like a last name for luke in hiding not a space station

          • November 14, 2015 at 12:19 pm
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            They already used it for Vader’s apprentice too even if that story is no longer canon.

      • November 13, 2015 at 8:44 pm
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        I think that whatever type of weapon it has travels through hyperspace. The base itself doesn’t need to move because it has practically unlimited range.

        • November 14, 2015 at 12:18 pm
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          I meant in terms of defenses. It actually took some skill to inflintrate a space station but none at all onto a planet. Plus they are fucked since they can’t get out of Dodge when their location is located and call the entire fleet on them. This script clearly needed a rewrite.

          • November 15, 2015 at 2:28 am
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            Maybe the weapon is hidden inside the base.

          • November 15, 2015 at 5:04 pm
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            Makes no difference if it is. Once they use the weapon it’s a giant fucking beacon to the Resistance where they are in the galaxy and it’s not like the OT when The Empire was the dominant power of the galaxy and had carte blanche to literally do anything due to their sheer numbers. They seen what the Death Stars did and everyone would swarm upon them.

    • November 13, 2015 at 8:25 pm
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      i think that the galaxy gun is just better than star-killer base…if you cant beat a wes anderson plot-device than you simply should never be allowed to work in hollywood

      • November 13, 2015 at 8:34 pm
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        You got me there, Steven! Especially since it was smaller and a harder target to hit as well as had shielded missles. The Wes Anderson plot-device test should be mandatory, I agree.

  • November 13, 2015 at 8:28 pm
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    That General Hux is sounding like a one movie kind of guy.

    • November 13, 2015 at 8:29 pm
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      and the kind that would sweep the razzies for his lack of originality

      • November 13, 2015 at 9:03 pm
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        Think it will still be a really good movie.

    • November 13, 2015 at 8:35 pm
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      I’m walking out if Rey destroys Starkiller by “accident”.

      • November 13, 2015 at 9:13 pm
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        “Now this is scavenging!” “Yippee!!!”

      • November 13, 2015 at 9:27 pm
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        Let’s try spinning!

        • November 13, 2015 at 10:34 pm
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          That’s a good trick!

  • November 13, 2015 at 8:29 pm
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    Death Star III confirmed

  • November 13, 2015 at 8:44 pm
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    So basically:

    Kylo Ren=Darth Vader

    General Hux=Grand Moff Tarkin

    Starkiller=Death Star

    • November 13, 2015 at 8:45 pm
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      please sweet baby jesus don’t let this be true.

    • November 13, 2015 at 8:54 pm
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      Yup. It’s still gonna be cool

    • November 13, 2015 at 8:55 pm
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      This is known Khaleesi.

      Or in more complicated terms… we’ve known for awhile that particular dynamic would return. As well with Snoke being the emperor and Phasma as Fett. The hope is that it’s even more fleshed out than the OT!

      • November 13, 2015 at 9:03 pm
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        I would be a Khal, not a Khaleesi, actually, but I see your point, good Ser. I just hope that TFA won’t be as damn close to ANH as it appears to be on the surface. At least Finn’s and Luke’s subplots sound quite original and exciting.

    • November 13, 2015 at 9:01 pm
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      You missed out:

      Captain Phasma=Boba Fett
      Rey=Luke
      Luke=Obi-Wan
      Poe=Han
      BB-8=C3PO+R2D2
      Maz=Yoda+Jabba
      First Order=The Empire
      The Resistence=The Rebellion
      Jakku=Tattooine
      Starkiller Base=Hoth
      Takodana=Yavin 4

      • November 13, 2015 at 9:19 pm
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        Finn?

      • November 13, 2015 at 9:43 pm
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        They’re called archetypes.

      • November 13, 2015 at 9:48 pm
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        You’re stressing this way too much… Are you trying to dislike this movie? What, is that a cool thing to do?

        • November 13, 2015 at 10:07 pm
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          It was a totally sarcastic comment. I appreciate what J.J. and Kasdan have done. Also, understand the constraints of the Star Wars universe. Can’t wait to see this movie on twice on the 17th. Know it will be really good.

          • November 13, 2015 at 10:25 pm
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            Gotcha. It’s kind of hard to know which of the comments to take seriously here lol.

      • November 13, 2015 at 10:33 pm
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        How about:

        Luke=Luke
        Rey=Rey
        Finn=Finn
        Poe=Poe
        Han=Han
        Leia=Leia
        BB-8=BB-8
        Kylo=Kylo
        Yoda=Yoda
        Sith=Sith
        Jedi=Jedi
        Millennium Falcon=Millennium Falcon

        Need me to go on? I’m starting to wonder why it seems people hate Star Wars all of the sudden. These new characters are unique to themselves. There may be similarities, but I find more differences between the comparisons than likenesses.

        • November 14, 2015 at 5:55 am
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          Because when people feel like they may be disappointed in something, they lash out and start finding reasons to hate it, so there fragile feelings aren’t butthurt.

          I could care less if there are similarities. If it’s great, then great. If it sucks, then oh well, not a biggie to me. I just don’t let the small shit affect me. Life is so much simpler when you’re not so attached to things.

      • November 14, 2015 at 12:52 am
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        Finn is the original character in the trilogy, i.e; a character with a backstory unlike any other in previous SW movies,

    • November 13, 2015 at 9:01 pm
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      Yes..and..

      Snoke = The Emperor

    • November 13, 2015 at 9:24 pm
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      wow, better not watch it then eh?

    • November 13, 2015 at 9:34 pm
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      Not necessarily. But my guess is JJ has you fooled into thinking that way by comparing it to the original trilogy.

      • November 14, 2015 at 3:27 am
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        Well, the guy does think he’s smarter than he truly is. But his delusions of grandeur don’t automatically turn him into a young George Lucas or a Christopher Nolan, for instance.

        Starkiller is just Death Star III on steroids. And why couldn’t Rey have grown up in a jungle planet, for instance, which would be something rather new, as opposed to Tatooine’s twin brother?

        It’s easy, because a guy like J.J. Abrams can’t afford to take the chance to tell a different, new, original story that might just get a similar reception to the PT, because it “wouldn’t feel like SW” to many. And unlike Lucas, the price that Abrams could have to pay for another disappointment would cost him dearly.

        I hope you’re right, though. I hope Abrams can surprise me in the end. I really do, but I seriously doubt it.

        • November 14, 2015 at 6:30 am
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          I think he was hired to do one kind of film Disney wanted, a soft reboot to erase the prequels and re-establish the originals’ vibe.

          That is his thing in films, homage and rebooting.

          Because we have two more episodes to come, I’m less worried. But, yes, it bothers me a bit that everything looks so much like what we have seen before.

          I hope in the next films we see different planets, ships, aliens, etcetera.

          • November 14, 2015 at 7:10 am
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            Yeah, I get that. Abrams didn’t have full control over all creative aspects of TFA. But it’s one thing to try to recreate the OT’s look & feel and another to recycle so many ideas from ANH.

            I’m not saying that it won’t work, and some things do feel fresh (Finn’s backstory, Luke’s rumored role, the Knights of Ren, etc.) but I do fear that Abrams and Kasdan might have gone to the well too many times on this one.

            I’m also hoping that the next films will stand on their own after TFA has established the new characters, situations, etc.

    • November 13, 2015 at 9:40 pm
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      Yes, or Hitler and Himmler. Starkiller would be that nutty train they built that never went anywhere.

    • November 13, 2015 at 11:00 pm
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      Or as I like to think of it:
      Kylo Ren=Dark Helmet
      General Hux=Colonel Sandurz
      Starkiller=Spaceball One
      Snoke=President Skroob
      Captain Phasma=Commanderette Zircon
      LOL

      • November 14, 2015 at 12:37 am
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        But who’s Barf?

      • November 14, 2015 at 3:47 am
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        This is the best thus far! I applaud you sir!

  • November 13, 2015 at 8:56 pm
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    What is the name of the snow planet star killer base is on? Kylo is the boss

  • November 13, 2015 at 8:57 pm
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    “That’s no planet…it’s a space station…”

    One thing’s for sure…the ability to destroy an entire star system is still insignificant next to the power of the Force.

  • November 13, 2015 at 9:00 pm
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    Again for people fretting over another Death Star…

    How often do you see small groups who want to be legitimate striving for a WMD? In particular a nuclear weapon. I simply see the Death Star as a galactic scale WMD.

    It’s the fastest way for the First Order to prove they are a force to be reckoned with. Respect us… or die.

    • November 13, 2015 at 9:14 pm
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      I’m not fretting over another Death Star. My concern is the countless similarities (in addition to this one) found between ANH and TFA. Even a five-year old could see how this film’s starting to resemble ANH (if not the OT as a whole) in almost every possible way that anyone could think of.

      • November 13, 2015 at 10:20 pm
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        I can see the future debates/arguments already starting. I’m 1000% ok with a spiritual reboot of ANH. Clearly some people are not… which is a shame as it sounds like this Star Wars may disappoint them.

        For me… it’s looking fantastic.

        • November 14, 2015 at 2:52 am
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          Lol, I was disappointed since I learned who would be at the helm of Ep. VII. Not a fan of one Mr. J.J. Abrams’ work, I must confess, not in the very least. That being said, I’d like to expect a sharp, creative, original, risky proposition from Lawrence Kasdan, especially when that’s exactly what he gave us with TESB.

          One of the best things about Ep. V is that it was capable of recapturing the spirit of ANH while telling a completely new, original story and expanding the GFFA. It introduced us to a whole new cast of characters (Yoda, Boba Fett, Lando, even the Emperor in a brief hologram) that were as memorable as the original cast of Luke, Vader, Han, Leia, Chewie, Old Ben, the droids, Tarkin, etc.

          More importantly, TESB had no need to give us another super-WMD to show us how power-starved Palpatine and Vader were, or the military might that the Empire wielded.

          I hope the ST is able to recapture the spirit of the OT as a whole, too. But my good wishes don’t blind me to the fact that the risk of TFA ending up as an unoriginal, non too creative rehash of ANH seems to be there.

          • November 14, 2015 at 3:10 am
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            i hope that delusion of the films recapturing the spirit of films whose main attributes outside of mythological feel is novelty is killed soon

          • November 14, 2015 at 3:12 am
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            Accurate! They did bring in the SSD though, but never showed it’s muscle. Amazing the ties to WW2, where everything just kept getting bigger and bigger.

        • November 14, 2015 at 3:11 am
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          I really liked watching the first 3 teasers along with the screens released. Very mythical and mysterious, JJ did a good job releasing them. And then…I watched the last one and got a weird feeling in my gut…it seemed very “Disney” fied. I really hope it’s not and has the right amount of seriousness/levity. Here’s hoping!

        • November 15, 2015 at 2:49 am
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          Or maybe they are using the well known imagery and storytelling to turn the franchise’s tropes and themes on it’s head and tell a brand new story.

      • November 13, 2015 at 10:24 pm
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        So you want a reboot… No thanks.

  • November 13, 2015 at 9:37 pm
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    I’m not any less excited, however, it sounds like this movie will be very much like ANH.

    • November 13, 2015 at 10:10 pm
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      Well it’s been 38yrs I guess

    • November 14, 2015 at 12:08 pm
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      Complete with a Trench Run. Did you see the equator on the planet?

      • November 14, 2015 at 3:16 pm
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        Yes, I did, I just hope it isn’t as big as it looks from far away on the poster and as small as it looks from close up in the video, that blunder would distract me too much. 🙂

        • November 14, 2015 at 6:02 pm
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          Especially since they fixed it with the last Death Star and it would have only been millimeters wide had Palpatine just waited till they finished it rather than set up his “trap”.

          • November 14, 2015 at 6:05 pm
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            Haha, well it looks about 500KM’s wide in the poster from the planet view and 500m wide in the action scene.

          • November 14, 2015 at 6:13 pm
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            Really not sure how they are going to explain that one. You think they would have studied the schematics of the last two in order to get in 100 percent right this time around. Especially after spending all that money and decades building it.

  • November 13, 2015 at 9:38 pm
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    Starcrusher…great book

  • November 13, 2015 at 10:38 pm
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    I really hope JJ is making use of this rhyme narrative device to tell a completely different story. I don’t want to watch Episode IV with different actors.

    Rey = Luke
    Finn = Han
    Han = Obi-Wan
    Poe = Biggs
    Hux = Tarkin
    Kylo = Vader
    Snoke = Palpatine
    Luke = Yoda

    Maybe JJ is making it look like a soft reboot just to shock us when we see the real story. Maybe…

    • November 13, 2015 at 11:16 pm
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      It’s like poetry…

      • November 14, 2015 at 12:36 am
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        Haha, nice catch, I wanted to make the same comment 😉

        But it’s fun to blow “fan theories” out of the water..
        So, after all the description we had from JJ about Maz, where does she fit in this list?

        • November 14, 2015 at 2:43 am
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          I’d say Maz is Yoda in Episode VII, Luke is Yoda in Episode VIII.

    • November 14, 2015 at 12:18 am
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      I think VII will really be a Greatest Hits and VIII and IX will be new ground.

      • November 14, 2015 at 8:59 am
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        That’s what I assume and hope. If that’s the case, then I think it’s actually a really good idea.

    • November 14, 2015 at 2:06 am
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      What are you expecting, the “Back to the Future 2/3” or “Home Alone 2” equivalent of a Star Wars sequel? I don’t think JJ or any of his team would let that kind of thing slide, as if it would have no negative repercussions from the fan base. Plus, your assumptions are way out of turn. These comparisons are not as clear as you’re making them seem…

    • November 14, 2015 at 12:09 pm
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      Poe is Leia but otherwise yeah.

  • November 13, 2015 at 10:44 pm
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    Jakku had two suns during the big battle (seen in Battlefront)

    Jakku has one sun in The Force Awakens.

    STARKILLER BASE is the answer to Jakkooine mystery.

    • November 13, 2015 at 10:53 pm
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      you might be on to something there..

    • November 13, 2015 at 11:46 pm
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      As far as my speculation goes, the planet depicted in Battlefront with the Sandcrawler and Boba is Tatooine for sure. But I am, however, aware that Jawas do have the capability to migrate if they tried (considering the access to the spaceports of Eisley and Espa). But I don’t find it likely they are the same. In one of the TV spots or the int’l trailer, you see TIE fighters silhouetted by a setting sun (singular) but is being eclipsed by TWO moons?

      But who knows? JJ and KK maybe messing with us more than we know. The speculation is endless!

    • November 14, 2015 at 5:59 am
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      There is no mystery. Jakku has one sun. As it always had.

  • November 13, 2015 at 11:01 pm
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    Don’t like the new Star Killer base. It’s practically just as effective as the Death Star. I mean how many planets that support life does the average star system have? 1? Why not just destroy the planet itself. Being a planet is impractical. One problem that it doesn’t have a propulsion system. It’s in orbit of some star or larger planet. If it’s too close or too far away from a star the planet either burns or freezes and might lose it’s atmosphere. Either way it’s not good.

    • November 14, 2015 at 12:12 pm
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      There’s no way they could have gotten the funds and managed to build it undetected either. Made more sense to be an abandoned and unfinished Imperial weapon from the Endor days.

  • November 13, 2015 at 11:17 pm
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    I’m dispointed that star killer base is a new! Basicly Death Star 3 I so hoped it was an ancient wepon left over from the sith war or sompthing way in the past! I was hoping for crude yet powerfull old tec.. It would have tied nicely in to the relic hunting theam. This starwars seems to have.iv even had conversations with fellow fans about this theory and saying can you imagine if it actually was hoth and was there hiding all along. May be that’s why the rebles were there in there first place looking for this ancient super wepon ect……

    • November 14, 2015 at 12:10 pm
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      Not to mention the whole superweapon plan has failed twice already, You think unlike Abrams that they’d have some fresh ideas after 30 years.

  • November 14, 2015 at 12:17 am
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    So much rethreading. I hope Rian Johnson give us new.

  • November 14, 2015 at 1:31 am
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    Isn’t this the plot for Star Trek: Generations? Oh, and I’m guessing Luke is the power source for Starkiller base. He’s the energizer bunny!

    • November 14, 2015 at 12:07 pm
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      Don’t worry, Abrams will be back to continue to kill Trek after making his billions here.

      • November 14, 2015 at 4:03 pm
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        If anything killed Trek, it probably is still ST:Generations. lol

        • November 14, 2015 at 6:04 pm
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          Ha! It certainly didn’t help. If Han goes out like Kirk did then Abrams will never work in ths town again!

          • November 17, 2015 at 8:54 pm
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            Fear the space ribbon!

          • November 18, 2015 at 2:28 am
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            We already got Gunian in the firm of Maz Kanata.

  • November 14, 2015 at 4:19 am
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    So he’s basically Tarkin, in a sense.

    • November 14, 2015 at 12:06 pm
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      In every sense.

  • November 14, 2015 at 3:15 pm
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    This is just crazy. An evil Empire builds a super weapon and the alliance fights to destroy it, now a generation later we’re supposed to believe the same thing happens all over again? Thats absurd! I mean its like saying some planet had a World War I against bad guys in crazy helmets and only a generation later had a World War II against bad guys in crazy helmets. Whose gonna believe that?!?!

    • November 14, 2015 at 6:06 pm
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      World War I and II were fought for entirely different reasons and Germany went to war for entirely seperate reasons each time. Apples and oranges. Might as well compare the Revolutionary War to Vietnam while you are at it.

      • November 14, 2015 at 8:31 pm
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        Bah. Quit violating my safe space with your history lessons 😉

        • November 14, 2015 at 8:36 pm
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          Either that or I’m making you watch the entire run of the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles in one sitting! 🙂

  • November 14, 2015 at 5:09 pm
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    Of course I would have loved to see them not do another superweapon…but you look at ANH and ROTJ, both had death stars and were wildly different movies. So as long as TFA is its own movie I’ll get over it

    • November 14, 2015 at 6:09 pm
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      Except from what we know they ARE rehashing ANH and ROTJ or at least Kasdan’s original version of it. If they were going to ape one of the OT they should have gone with Empire but they are probably saving that for VIII.

      • November 14, 2015 at 6:48 pm
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        Look if this movie is awesome it wont matter that it took elements from the others

        • November 14, 2015 at 6:50 pm
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          IT CANT BE AWESOME…only okay but really below average with jj abrams at the helm

          • November 14, 2015 at 6:59 pm
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            If they don’t screen it for critics then we’ll know for sure it’s worth waiting for on Netflix.

          • November 14, 2015 at 9:07 pm
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            I love the first Star Trek so it can be awesome to me. If you go in wanting to hate it then you probably will, I’m going to walk in and let the movie does whatever it does

        • November 14, 2015 at 6:57 pm
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          Jedi took some elements from ANH but this one is lifting entire plot points from it.

          • November 14, 2015 at 9:17 pm
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            ANH plot: Save Princess Leia, destroy Death Star. ROTJ plot: Save Han Solo, destroy second Death Star. Both are still completely there own movies. This one already looks like it’s bringing plenty of new mythology to the franchise. Again if this movie is literally beat for beat ANH it can still be a great movie, or it can be 100% new and suck. Rehashing the other movies will literally have no impact on whether its great or not. For example, Star Trek Into Darkness is not a good movie IMO. It re-uses character arcs, the villian is weak and poorly acted, the stuff with robocop makes no sense, the ending fight with Khan and Spock should not be possible. Notice how I didn’t bring up that it takes from Wrath of Khan, because that doesn’t matter. Fanboys love to claim that it sucks because it copies off of WOK. I think if it was a great movie nobody would care that it copied WOK, but since it is a weak film that’s all people look at. Same will happen for TFA. If it’s great then nobody will care about it rehashing, but if it sucks then people will cite that as the reason for it sucking.

          • November 15, 2015 at 5:14 pm
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            Jurrasic World disproves that theory, It was a straight up remake and sucked but all that mattered was that it made a shitload of money in ticket sales and merchandise like this one already has.

            The thing is this….

            OT – Created by a hungry film maker with a life long vision and used creativity to make up for the lack of budget.

            PT – Created by the same film maker who got lazy with success and only felt obligated to finish the saga for the fans but was more interested in the new film technology like CG.

            ST – Created by Disney to sell theme park rides and make the most of their 4 billion dollar investment as well as please their stockholders and build and IP that they created which wasn’t just a TV show like Rebels.

            Having said all that there is no excuse for this film to fail – they have the PT as an example of what not to do, the original cast is back as well as the writer of Empire/Jedi, and were given three decades of prep time when you think about it.

          • November 16, 2015 at 1:21 am
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            First of all I loved Jurassic World. It was stupid as hell but it did hit me. And secondly JJ is not just making Star Wars to make toys and rides. Disney wants to capitalize on their massive investment so of course they are doing everything they can. But Disney didn’t write and direct this movie. Disney gave JJ control to make the movie he wanted. And he is not only a fan (which isn’t very important) but he is a great director. The weakest part of his movies is always the script so he brought in a master writer in Kasdan. And even though JW was a retread it still felt like it’s own movie. I already said that it was pretty bad but that is not because it was a retread.

          • November 16, 2015 at 1:14 pm
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            The Story Group has all the power in this new trilogy which is basically a multi-group creative dicatorship over the one man one of Lucas. JJ’s helped with the names and has final cut but as you said other people are in charge of the actual story which sounds largely focus group oriented as opposed to the my way or the highway style George had.

            He says he’s a fan but I’ve never seen any evidence of it in his other films or prior interviews aside from him saying he is and only knowing the basics that even non-fans know, sounds like a PR stunt to me. And rumor is that he only took the job for a higher paycheck and points off the back end when he refused Disney the first time around. The fact that he’s done after this one seems to support that claim.

          • November 16, 2015 at 4:22 pm
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            Can you blame him for turning down Disney the first time? If he screws this up then he wil get death threats, of course he was reluctant. And you can clearly see that his love for Star Wars all over his Star Trek movies. To argue your other point the story group was enlisted to work on the new canon after JJ and Kasdan started writing TFA. JJ and Kasdan threw out Arndt’s script and started from scratch. The story group is working on the anthologies, Rebels, the comics, etc. and bending those stories to fit in with what has been established in TFA.

          • November 17, 2015 at 3:57 am
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            I’m sure he’s seen the films on TV once or twice but in interviews and panels with the fans he seemed at lost at times as he did with Trekkers and it wouldn’t be the first time a Hollywood director exagerrated something for a media sound bite. If someone challenged him to a game of Star Wars Trivial Pursuit on a talk show and he kicked ass without being coached then I’d change my mind.

            I used to be excited about Kasdan but I’m not so sure after this talk of him being done with it after this one and only doing the Han Solo spinoff out of obligation to his son. I just really hope he hasn’t lost touch like Lucas has over the decades. I also hope Damon Lindeloff and Orci/Kurtzman who Abrams is tight with are not brought in for any future films.

          • November 17, 2015 at 6:13 am
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            Kasdan is like 100! Of course he wants to go work on simpler stuff. And JJ said what brought him on board was because he wanted to be the one who determined what happened to Luke after ROTJ. I don’t think being a fan matters at all, Nolan wasn’t a fan of Batman but still made great movies. But it is a little icing on the cake to know that he obviously has a lot of care for the franchise and wants to please the fans

          • November 17, 2015 at 11:40 am
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            Nolan read the comics beforehand as a kid though, He says the whole reason he took the job was because his Brother gave then to him as a child fir his Birthday. He may not have seen the other films but those were never really Batman in the first place.

            I wonder if simpler stuff is code for retirement like with George? He always went on about the burden of Star Wars yet all he did after III was revist the franchise and made exactly one film afterward that was original then quit after it bombed. I think he just ran out of ideas in his old age and coukdn’t admit it.

          • November 17, 2015 at 3:55 pm
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            Between the pressure and time crunch these movies are big undetakings. You can’t blame an old man because he doesn’t want to deal with the biggest franchise ever anymore. And again it doesn’t really matter whether or not JJ is a fan (which he is). I think he is a talented director so that is all that matters to me

          • November 18, 2015 at 3:13 am
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            Oh no, I’m happy he’s no longer a part of it but if he was really sincere about making all these “edgy, indpendent films that no one will want to watch” then he would have done them seeing as how he’s a billionaire and his kids were grown. Instead he threw a temper tantrum when no one liked the one post-Star Was non-SW film he made and sold it all off to Disney saying he’s done with film making.

  • November 14, 2015 at 11:49 pm
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    Very excited to see the power and the intensity of the star killer base we know jj abrams can destroy a planet looking at star trek.

  • November 15, 2015 at 8:37 am
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    In 2003 I read the supposed “fake” treatments for the sequel trilogy and I’m noticing some strange coincidences with “Force Awakens” and the New EU books. For instance, in the fake treatment of Episode IX, there is a star system that is the source of the dark side, and if destroyed, the dark side would be no more. According to the bogus plot, Luke destroys the entire star system with a powerful black hole weapon. Similarly, in Aftermath, characters speak of a place beyond the known galaxy where the dark side originated. Elsewhere, we learned that the Starkiller base is home to a weapon that can destroy an entire star system. Could these elements be connected?

    Of course, there are major inaccuracies in the bogus treatments, including the use of expanded universe characters that were eliminated from the official canon. However, some of the thematic commonalities, such as the group of zealots that worship Darth Vader (which seems to be exactly what the Knights of Ren are all about) makes me ponder if there is even an iota of legitimacy to those fake treatments. Also, there are rumors that Darth Vader might return as a clone in Episode VIII, and as absurd as that sounds, this was also a major plot line in the supposed fake synopses.

    Anyone else read those fake treatments and find it familiar to what’s happening now?

  • November 16, 2015 at 1:56 am
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    Its funny that everyone is sayig that they’re ripping off the EU because they are doing a galaxy destroying weapon like it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to think of a bigger Death Star lol

    • November 17, 2015 at 7:25 am
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      I see what you did there 😉

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